Stein: Spurs Could Emerge As Paul Suitor

[TD 21]

A potential team to watch, should Chris Paul and the Warriors part ways, is San Antonio. Among the early personnel rumbles in circulation: The Spurs could emerge as a Paul suitor if they decide to pursue some veteran know-how on a short-term contract basis (https://marcstein.substack.com/p/the-nba-playoffs-are-here-and-so?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=392205&post_id=143767069&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=false&r=10980&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email) to furnish presumptive Rookie of the Year winner Victor Wembanyama with more seasoned help in Year 2.

[widowmaker]

The dude is washed I hope the spurs skip on him

[Gibbz]

please god no

[mo7888]

A potential team to watch, should Chris Paul and the Warriors part ways, is San Antonio. Among the early personnel rumbles in circulation: The Spurs could emerge as a Paul suitor if they decide to pursue some veteran know-how on a short-term contract basis (https://marcstein.substack.com/p/the-nba-playoffs-are-here-and-so?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=392205&post_id=143767069&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=false&r=10980&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email) to furnish presumptive Rookie of the Year winner Victor Wembanyama with more seasoned help in Year 2.

What would that look like? Zollins + Charlotte 1st? Gives them salary relief next year plus a fake 1st to sell..

[Bruno]

Spurs +/- :
With Tre (2138 minutes): -22
Without Tre (1828 minutes): -510

Spurs badly need another PG to play when Tre isn't on the court. This player could come from trade, FA or the draft but it would be disastrous if Spurs start next season with only one decent PG.

Saying that, I'm really not a fan of Chris Paul at that stage of his career.

[Spursfanfromafar]

Spurs +/- :
With Tre (2138 minutes): -22
Without Tre (1828 minutes): -510

Spurs badly need another PG to play when Tre isn't on the court. This player could come from trade, FA or the draft but it would be disastrous if Spurs start next season with only one decent PG.

Saying that, I'm really not a fan of Chris Paul at that stage of his career.

Indeed. What Tre is missing is perimeter scoring and even that he improved over the second half of the season, albeit at relatively low shooting volumes. All things considered, his brother can be a great back-up or he can back-up his brother. Tyus Jones, I think is the most logical answer for the Spurs if they need a veteran PG while seeking to upgrade the SF position through trade.

[Spursfanfromafar]

Marc Stein.. was an engaging writer for ESPN. But ever since he left ESPN.. I dont remember a time when he predicated anything correctly or broke something a la Woj-bomb/ Shams cracker.

[spurraider21]

Would have loved him this past year, but would rather save the minutes for a developmental guy next year

[Robz4000]

:lmao

[tonight...you]

I'd take him. Shit, for the dirty tricks he could teach alone.

[Dejounte]

Better than Tyus Jones, IMO.

[Degoat]

He could keep the bench warm like Devonte Graham did all year… jk lol wouldn’t hate it but I’d rather they invested in a young PG

[Fizziksman]

Would have been fine to have him this year just to have a guy that could help with Wemby rookie development. Now it is pointless.

[TD 21]

What would that look like? Zollins + Charlotte 1st? Gives them salary relief next year plus a fake 1st to sell..

The Warriors can (and will) just release Paul by June 28th, since none of his $30M is guaranteed, unless he's utilized as ballast for a trade that can both reduce their tax bill (Lacob has made it clear they want out of it entirely) and improve them.

Collins obviously doesn't do either and the Spurs would have to pay to get off of him.

I'm sure Paul's preference is Lakers first (if they trade for a star guard and need back court depth), Suns second, so he can (pseudo) contend and remain close to his family in L.A.

The Spurs preference at lead guard is supposedly a young veteran or at least in their prime one, with size.

This comes off as brainstorming and a last resort type thing for both sides.

[NASpurs]

Marc Stein.. was an engaging writer for ESPN. But ever since he left ESPN.. I dont remember a time when he predicated anything correctly or broke something a la Woj-bomb/ Shams cracker.

Him and Ric Bucher. Now they've been sent to the Shadow Realm.

[The Truth #6]

I'd take him. Shit, for the dirty tricks he could teach alone.

I've always hated him so I'm against it in the abstract but he could mentor Sochan. Not totally joking. CP is as veteran as it gets. Good lord, CP might even want to come here to later join the coaching staff. He would be a good coach. Totally riffing here, not likely of course but just trying to think of all the possibilities.

[Mal]

I would prefer Patty Mills

[itzsoweezee]

He’s exactly the type of vet this team needs. His work with the young guys in Phoenix, okc, and in Golden State speaks for itself.

[mo7888]

Honestly, I wouldn't hate it if we are staying with so many 1st contract young guys. That said, there are other avenues I'd explore first.

[GAustex]

Dirty flopping POS.
Drunk assed Crater face will prolly go for it
And the shitshow continues

[tonight...you]

Dirty flopping POS.
Drunk assed Crater face will prolly go for it
And the shitshow continues
Can't have guys flopping. True... true.

[jjspur]

Odds are the warriors cut/waive him for salary purposes. Some western conference team may sign him for a part of the MLE based on his reputation. He doesn't have that much left in the tank (other than experience) that would really benefit a team like the spurs. What's he going to do, sit on the bench like Graham did, or better yet he could teach the young spurs how to flop properly, like he has for almost 2 decades. Thanks but no thanks. We have better uses for one of our few available player slots. At his age he should retire or stick to doing state farm commercials if he wants to stay active. :spin

[CGD]

What would that look like? Zollins + Charlotte 1st? Gives them salary relief next year plus a fake 1st to sell..

I’m a fan of the idea. I wonder in what scenario they’d take him though: a trade for him or wait for GWS to waive him?

If it’s a trade, I really don’t think the Spurs would need to give up much value. The GSW offseason outlook looks bleak. In fact, GSW would probably need to attach Moody in your proposal (and spurs might need to lob in a few SRPs to compensate).

Julian played well at the end, but I think Moody would be a slight upgrade in the SL.

[skin27]

If he accept a vet min im fine with him on the spurs

[Extra Stout]

CP39

[barakz21]

At this point of his career, he’s more Cliff than Chris Paul. That being said, I wouldn’t be opposed to it if he came cheap. Best case scenario, he can help mentor them to win a series or two, because everyone knows he can barely get to the WCF. Worst case, he’ll help them win a few more games.

[skin27]

If we draft tpoic or dillingham there is mo point on getting a washed up cp3.

[z0sa]

Depends on our draft choices

[cd98]

If he plays next year, it will be for a contender. I can’t see him wasting the last years of his career trying to get the Spurs to the 7th or 8th seed. But he would be positive here. Maybe not always on the court, but leadership, professionalism, and teaching vet tricks to young players would be beneficial. No one thinks he’d come here and play like an all start. It’d be more like McGrady or maybe Terry Porter when they came here.

[Knoxxx]

Teams just spent a whole season schooling us on veteran dirty tricks commonly used to draw fouls so while CP may have little in the tank he could still have some benefit even as an end of bench guy playing spot minutes almost like a player coach. He was the prototypical guy for pissing the other team off and remember the main knock on Manu for years was as a flopper. I do recall he was real classy in IIRC it was the 2nd to last season for Duncan and he cried, hugged TD and had mad respect for him.

Doesnt fit with the plan of course but putting more multi year development players around Wemby is also a dicey proposition seems like he could mentor a Tre Jones and rookie PG well.

[heyheymymy]

man, not trying to be picky but I do not like any of the suggested established names linked to SA

not interested in CP3 on the Spurs outside of maybe him getting cut and coming at vet min as a mentor

[Robz4000]

People who want him assume he'd play limited minutes. Knowing Pop he'd have him playing 25+ mpg tbh.

[heyheymymy]

:pop:

CP3? more like C/PF cause you're my new reverse point Power Forward, Chris.

[JPB]

Don't see the point for Paul to come here now, specially for the minimum... He's gonna try to ring till he retires and he's not even making the POs here. He wouldn't leave money on the table just for the privilege and unique chance at mentoring Tre Jones and Blake Wesley. And Wemby doesn't need a daddy.

[R. DeMurre]

He's been one of my least favorite players in the league for years, and now he's old, so I'd have to vote no. Plus I'd add that the moniker of "mentor" is used too easily... Sure he's a vet, but it seems to me that many of his old teammates dislike him, so I don't know if he'd really be a good choice in that regard. Personally, I'd rather the Spurs spend a modest amount of money on vets like Delon Wright or Alec Burks, and if they want an undersized PG as a temporary undersized stopgap I'd rather spend modestly on someone like Jordan McLaughlin than on CP0.

[KobesAchilles]

I want either him or Lowry. Both would be cheap. Just the knowledge he has is worth it. Dude helped Shay a lot in OKC. He also helped Booker too. There’s zero downside to it tbh, even if he is “washed,” he still played about as well as our starter anyway.

[MultiTroll]

At this point of his career, he’s more Cliff than Chris Paul.
:lol
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No.
Wemby does not need a cheap, unnecessary insurance policy.

[Dex]

Spurs and CP3 free agency rumors, name a better duo

[dbestpro]

Would prefer Killian Hayes get a shot. Big PG who plays good defense and is fair passer and shooter.

[Texas_Ranger]

at least someone would finally pass good balls to Victor... CP0 could average 15 assists.

[MaNu4Tres]

Steins opinion. Nothing really more.

Spurs didn't do it last summer and they had every opportunity.

[Dverde]

I hate CP but this makes sense for the Spurs. He can mentor the young players especially PGs, he’ll get hurt and they still get to play. It gives him a small part in Wemby’s career. Play in national televised games throwing him lobs, hitting game winning 3s. Spurs sign him to a large 1 year deal eventually buy him out if he desires and he can play for a title contender in the playoffs. Spurs retain cap space for next offseason. Better FA class in 2025 and Spurs still have a their own pick and ATL pick.

[manufor3]

Makes a lot of sense, especially if you're not sold on any of the point guards in this year's draft. If we draft a wing, makes sense to go with Tre and a vet point next season and go fishing again for the long term solution in the 2025 draft or in the trade market.

[onechance87]

sum type of pg who can pass and shoot.Either tyus jones,chris paul or draft a pg in topic,dilly,castle or collier.

[spurraider21]

Would prefer Killian Hayes get a shot. Big PG who plays good defense and is fair passer and shooter.
:lmao

[John B]

CP3 is not playing his last years with a rebuilding team.

I think Tre remains the starting PG until Topic or Dillingham takes it from him. While Wesley will also put up a fight. Some posters giving up on Wesley, but I think he improved so much this season. The kid just turned 21 geez. I think Pop loves his defense and fight. He seems like a great kid and will work harder this off-season.

I’m not discounting signing an all-star like Trae, to please Wemby who seems hinting with his posting. Will PATFO concede will be interesting to see.

[TimmehC]

If he'll accept the role of mentor for whatever guard(s) get drafted, sure. But anything more than spot minutes in the rotation is a hard pass from me.

[Uriel]

I'd rather give those minutes to Topic or Dilllngham or Castle or whoever we draft. If we need a veteran PG, it's Tre Jones.

[John B]

He’ll be playing with Ringling Lakers before he plays for the Spurs

[BatManu20]

Spurs and CP3 free agency rumors, name a better duo

Normally I’d agree, but this one might have some legs to it. All depends on what we do in the Draft tbh.

[BatManu20]

One of my least favorite players ever tbh. Not a fan of this idea. Hope we draft a PG and this doesn’t happen. With that said, there’s worse players we could sign than 39 year-old CP3 tbh.


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[CorrectCrusader]

I would've loved Paul on the spurs at the start of last season, not for this next one. We'll have a young guard running the show

[NASpurs]

I would've loved Paul on the spurs at the start of last season, not for this next one. We'll have a young guard running the show

I'm sure if the Spurs were to draft a point guard, he's going to come off the bench for the year unless he's the reincarnation of TP.

[Robz4000]

One of my least favorite players ever tbh. Not a fan of this idea. Hope we draft a PG and this doesn’t happen. With that said, there’s worse players we could sign than 39 year-old CP3 tbh.


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Maybe like three tbh.

[Mr. Body]

I would absolutely consider it. He helped Devin Booker become Devin Booker. The Suns were trash before he taught a lot of their young players to play. But I think he's looking for a multi-year contract and to play for a contender. This is the guy who, as player rep, got the rules changed to give himself a massive payday, after all.

[Dex]

I'd rather give those minutes to Topic or Dilllngham or Castle or whoever we draft. If we need a veteran PG, it's Tre Jones.

I don't think Chris Paul is the answer for the Spurs, but calling Tre Jones a veteran PG is a hell of a stretch.

[John B]

I don't think Chris Paul is the answer for the Spurs, but calling Tre Jones a veteran PG is a hell of a stretch.

IF CP3 decided to play for the Spurs at vet minimum, of course that’s great. It’s a big IF. CP3 can help define roles and get the ball where people want, it’s a big help for young players to play right (not outside of their natural roles). That’s always been Spurs’ way during championship years, to not play players outside of their comfort zones, just specialists of what they do best. CP3 plays a disciplined game that’s great for players to learn from. I hate CP3 for a lot of reasons, but as a player, he’s one of the best point guards this game ever had. And young players can only learn from.

But I doubt CP3 signs his possibly last contract with a rebuilding Spurs.

[heyheymymy]

Thread gives me flashbacks to 2008 semis vs Hornets

TD gets some bad jambalaya, jannero fucking pargo going off, seven game series, win in 7, asshole Stein makes G1 WCF @LAL the next fucking day, lol, and then the Spurs plane gets stuck on the jetway for tech diffs. Manu was playing hurt.

[heyheymymy]

Isn't CP3 the guy all his team mates hate? Probably not Spurs material.

[spurs1990]

Back in the day (2017) we were all debating on this board if Paul was washed then during the summer FA chase. I think we'd be correct this time around. Though still be a better signing than a washed up Gasoft was in that summer.

[jjspur]

True, Chris Paul is experienced but his best days a way behind him even on a minimum contract. As a coach maybe, but I think he'll try to ring chase with one of the west coast teams or back Phoenix. Besides, he's always getting injured come playoff time probably due to age (he's old enough to be Wemby's dad) and wear and tear. No doubt we need a pg, but a pass on Paul.

[pookenstein]

If what the rumors some time ago said, the Spurs eying the 2025 draft, is true and the Spurs therefore not plan to be significantly better next season (record wise), I would not be opposed to a one or two year rental of Paul. I fthey draft a PG this year he could profit immensely from having one of the best PGs of all time as a mentor. Tre as well btw.

[Pauleta14]

I would absolutely consider it. He helped Devin Booker become Devin Booker. The Suns were trash before he taught a lot of their young players to play. But I think he's looking for a multi-year contract and to play for a contender. This is the guy who, as player rep, got the rules changed to give himself a massive payday, after all.

Can you remind me what change pls?

[LeBowen]

Can you remind me what change pls?

Iirc, that was back before he signed his last max deal, raised the age for max eligibility.
And everything that's been going on with the CBA ever since he took over as NBPA president benefited star players.

As already mentioned, he had his chance to join the Spurs in 2017. Rejected us because he thought Pop would retire.
He's about to turn 39, absolutely not worth those 30 million if his deal gets guaranteed. And if he's playing for a minimum, no way he joins a team that has no chance of winning a ring.

[LeBowen]

Can you remind me what change pls?

Iirc, that was back before he signed his last max deal, raised the age for max eligibility.
And everything that's been going on with the CBA ever since he took over as NBPA president benefited star players.

As already mentioned, he had his chance to join the Spurs in 2017. Rejected us because he thought Pop would retire.
He's about to turn 39, absolutely not worth those 30 million if his deal gets guaranteed. And if he's playing for a minimum, no way he joins a team that has no chance of winning a ring.

[LeBowen]

Can you remind me what change pls?

Iirc, that was back before he signed his last max deal, raised the age for max eligibility.
And everything that's been going on with the CBA ever since he took over as NBPA president benefited star players.

As already mentioned, he had his chance to join the Spurs in 2017. Rejected us because he thought Pop would retire.
He's about to turn 39, absolutely not worth those 30 million if his deal gets guaranteed. And if he's playing for a minimum, no way he joins a team that has no chance of winning a ring.

[LeBowen]

Iirc, that was back before he signed his last max deal, raised the age for max eligibility.
And everything that's been going on with the CBA ever since he took over as NBPA president benefited star players.

As already mentioned, he had his chance to join the Spurs in 2017. Rejected us because he thought Pop would retire.
He's about to turn 39, absolutely not worth those 30 million if his deal gets guaranteed. And if he's playing for a minimum, no way he joins a team that has no chance of winning a ring.

[LeBowen]

Can you remind me what change pls?

Iirc, that was back before he signed his last max deal, raised the age for max eligibility.
And everything that's been going on with the CBA ever since he took over as NBPA president benefited star players.

As already mentioned, he had his chance to join the Spurs in 2017. Rejected us because he thought Pop would retire.
He's about to turn 39, absolutely not worth those 30 million if his deal gets guaranteed. And if he's playing for a minimum, no way he joins a team that has no chance of winning a ring.

[LeBowen]

Can you remind me what change pls?

Iirc, that was back before he signed his last max deal, raised the age for max eligibility.
And everything that's been going on with the CBA ever since he took over as NBPA president benefited star players.

As already mentioned, he had his chance to join the Spurs in 2017. Rejected us because he thought Pop would retire.
He's about to turn 39, absolutely not worth those 30 million if his deal gets guaranteed. And if he's playing for a minimum, no way he joins a team that has no chance of winning a ring.

[poopbox]

Now that he is completely washed up I am sure the Spurs will sign him like they always do

[LeBowen]

Can you remind me what change pls?

Iirc, he pushed the age limit back to make himself eligible for the last max contract he signed.
Everything he's done as NBPA president was in favor of star players.

[LeBowen]

Can you remind me what change pls?

Iirc, he pushed the age limit back to make himself eligible for the last max contract he signed.
Everything he's done as NBPA president was in favor of star players.