Vassell will eventually be viewed as a better player than Haliburton

[C-Dub]

2 to 3 years from now, I see Vassell taking a higher leap in the NBA than Haliburton. Both should have allstar careers, but the Spurs, barring any major injuries, should win at least a couple championships with VicYama, whereas, I don't see the Pacers winning championships anytime soon. Therefore, on winning along, Vassell shall trump Haliburton. If you take the 4 championships Tony Parker won with Tim Duncan and the Spurs, I would assume, TP wouldn't be considered an Hall Of Fame player. Just saying.

[Knoxxx]

Put down the crack pipe.

[MultiTroll]

2 to 3 years from now, I see Vassell taking a higher leap in the NBA than Haliburton. Both should have allstar careers, but the Spurs, barring any major injuries, should win at least a couple championships with VicYama, whereas, I don't see the Pacers winning championships anytime soon. Therefore, on winning along, Vassell shall trump Haliburton. If you take the 4 championships Tony Parker won with Tim Duncan and the Spurs, I would assume, TP wouldn't be considered an Hall Of Fame player. Just saying.
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[TekXX]

Ahh yes, the leap. It's going to happen any season now.

[slick'81]

Probably not

[Degoat]

Idk why there has to be a conceived who’s better argument, both players have developed nicely for their teams, both players getting picked at 11 and 12 have developed into a 20 ppg wing and an all star PG. That is a win for both teams they’re on.

[KobesAchilles]

Yay! Another wait 2 to 3 years post from the sniffers. And this one is a doozy since Vassell literally isn’t better than Halliburton at one thing. Halliburton is a better shooter, a better dribbler, a better passer, better creator for himself and others, a better finisher, he can run a pick n roll and can run an offense.

Vassell plays loser basketball. He’s actually what the Spurs do NOT need in a player going forward. The dude plays zero defense, chucks the ball like he is the alpha, and has no brains. I’d rather have a KCP or Danny Green type player at SG than a player like Vassell. You mention Parker for no reason again. TP was an infinitely better player than Vassell can ever hope to dream of being. Lots of bad players score 20 ppg. Kevin love scored 26 and 13 for like 3 seasons and has a championship. I don’t see him on anybody’s top PFs of all time buddy. In three years I predict Vassell will be off the team or on the trading block

[weebo]

Vassell needs to cut down on the chucking and work on being a better playmaker. His overall defense needs improvement too. At best, best he'll be a fringe all-star level guy or a great off the bench player. He's not at all an elite or a player teams will be focusing on trying to stop.

[scott]

Vassell is only two years away from completely changing his game to fit around Wemby, at which point he’ll be two years away from being an All Star. JUST YOU ALL WAIT AN SEE

[onechance87]

vassell does nothing special....Alot of games hes just average.

[Spurs Homer]

Vassell appears to have the same kawhitter injury in his bum knee and the spurs should trade him asap

[z0sa]

Vassell is not elite and doesn't play well next to Wemby. He's replaceable, as most of the players should be on the worst team in the western conference.

[Mr. Body]

No, but Haliburton may be the worst defender in the league and the whole Pacers team is pretty bad on that end. They may be already sticking them on a treadmill. I haven't looked at their pick assets, but how much better can they get from here?

If Vassell can slot into more of a 3rd scoring role, he could be in his most natural role.

[Seventyniner]

VicYama

By far the worst part of this take.

[daslicer]

Vassell is a wannabe Kobe without the talent. He's a ball dominant inefficient chucker. He's currently the Spur I hate the most on this roster.

[scott]

No, but Haliburton may be the worst defender in the league and the whole Pacers team is pretty bad on that end. They may be already sticking them on a treadmill. I haven't looked at their pick assets, but how much better can they get from here?

If Vassell can slot into more of a 3rd scoring role, he could be in his most natural role.

The Pacers do have a fairly good number of young players who, as you like to remind everyone, will likely continue to improve.

The Pacers have the 8th youngest roster in the league. Three of the 8 youngest rosters made the playoffs this year: OKC, ORL, IND

[CorrectCrusader]

Idk why there has to be a conceived who’s better argument, both players have developed nicely for their teams, both players getting picked at 11 and 12 have developed into a 20 ppg wing and an all star PG. That is a win for both teams they’re on.

You know why. Vassell was picked one pick before Haliburton.

[Degoat]

You know why. Vassell was picked one pick before Haliburton.

Yes but why bitch and moan about it? It’s not like Vassell has been a bust, things could be a lot worse. He potentially can be a borderline all star. Also Halliburton hasn’t been too impressive in these playoffs either.

[CorrectCrusader]

Yes but why bitch and moan about it? It’s not like Vassell has been a bust, things could be a lot worse. He potentially can be a borderline all star. Also Halliburton hasn’t been too impressive in these playoffs either.

Because bitching and moaning is part of the fan expertience

[heyheymymy]

I'm a Vassell sniffer and I'll admit Haliburton is giving me serious FOMO this postseason. Oh well, you don't get both Hali and Wemby and would you trade Wemby for Hali? There's no time path where you get both so I think it's a fallacy that SA blew the pick. What do you tell DJ? It's like Kirk Cousins and Penix Jr lol hey no buddy don't sweat we just picked your position but it doesn't mean anything. Then knucklehead quits on the team, sinks his value, then the ATL deal never happens, then you don't have ATL 2025 FRP unprotected right now so let's not start shaking the branches of causality on this thing because I like where we stand as is Haliburton or not.

But you got to admit Vassell has steadily improved. You kinda couldn't tell because this season was so rough but Dev had some really impressive games. Needs to work on shot selection and meshing more into the offense. But you're also seeing Devin alongside G leaguers so the level of defensive focus he receives is disproportionally high.

I'm wondering as Wemby commands more of the defenses attention and as the overall surrounding player talent in general improves, isn't Devin is going to feast?

[onechance87]

I'm a Vassell sniffer and I'll admit Haliburton is giving me serious FOMO this postseason. Oh well, you don't get both Hali and Wemby and would you trade Wemby for Hali? There's no time path where you get both so I think it's a fallacy that SA blew the pick. What do you tell DJ? It's like Kirk Cousins and Penix Jr lol hey no buddy don't sweat we just picked your position but it doesn't mean anything. Then knucklehead quits on the team, sinks his value, then the ATL deal never happens, then you don't have ATL 2025 FRP unprotected right now so let's not start shaking the branches of causality on this thing because I like where we stand as is Haliburton or not.

But you got to admit Vassell has steadily improved. You kinda couldn't tell because this season was so rough but Dev had some really impressive games. Needs to work on shot selection and meshing more into the offense. But you're also seeing Devin alongside G leaguers so the level of defensive focus he receives is disproportionally high.

I'm wondering as Wemby commands more of the defenses attention and as the overall surrounding player talent in general improves, isn't Devin is going to feast?

This season vassell tried to show hes a star and is the man on this team.But instead he proved hes a overpaid role player that
was doing to much to prove hes a star.He needs to focus on being a better defender and playmaker.

[lefty]

2 different types of players tbh

[ismael-robert]

I've seen a decline in Hali post injury...since he's returned I'd take Vassell over him now

[John B]

Because he has the potential to win multiple rings with Wemby. While Halliburton sniffing one could be less likely. Vassell may have the better career. For the sake of argument, yes Parker has a better career than point-god CP3 because of his multiple rings, and one of the Big 3. I’m sure CP3 would trade anything for a ring.

[Tyronn Lue]

There's some really shitty takes on this forum.

[Rubberducky]

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[Pauleta14]

Yes but why bitch and moan about it? It’s not like Vassell has been a bust, things could be a lot worse. He potentially can be a borderline all star. Also Halliburton hasn’t been too impressive in these playoffs either.

Please explain how?

Not trying to be sarcastic, I genuinely don't see how with all his limitations (ball handling & playmaking mainly) outside of his elite jumpshot

[Uriel]

I remember, the guy I really fell in love with in that draft was his college teammate, Patrick Williams. I guess the team drafted the right Florida State player?

[Silverheart80]

When the Spurs trade Vassell, we'll have a chance to start winning again. As long as he's still here, we'll keep losing. He doesn't have the BBIQ, defensive ability, vision or footwork to take the team beyond the Lottery. Four years of evidence.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

I find it interesting that the Spurs were no worse, and are probably actually a little bit better, when Vassell and Johnson were out.

He didn’t do a lot to prove that he’s a team player this past season. I can’t say I was overly impressed. This guy needs to be doing all he can to prop up and maximize all things Wemby, and it looked like he was feeling a little butthurt about the attention Victor was getting.

[spurraider21]

while vassell was fine, i was still more or less disappointed since i expected a more notable leap from him. his scoring wasn't much better than it was last year, and its not like he made up for it with a renewed sense of purpose on defense

the positives, though:

- he got to the rim more than any other year in his career (career high 16.3% of his FGA came within 3 feet, and career high 29% of his FGA came within 10 feet). he still needs to get that number up, but was a step in the right direction, especially given how efficient he was with those shots at the rim (made over 70% within 3 feet)

- post all star break he averaged over 5 assists per game

- saw some solid chemistry running p&r with wemby

- he still had flashes of good man defense. he has the strength and length to be good on that end, just needs it to be more of an emphasis. adding additional playmaking talent in the backcourt would help

[LeBowen]

My biggest issue with him are his disappearing acts.
We had so many losses, close ones, where he just stood there and watched all the other scrubs chuck awful shots.
His numbers and advanced stats are good, but numbers don't always tell the whole story.

There were so many games where I would've rather had Devin chuck us out of the game than have Jeremy and Keldon do whathever they were doing.
If he doesn't establish himself as the first perimeter option the next season, I don't think he'll be worth keeping. First option if we don't get another legit player, that is.

I don't expect him to become a great playmaker, but if scoring is his calling card, then he needs to become the player we can rely on when the ball can't get to Wemby.

And as already mentioned, he can become a more consistent defender. I'd rather have him focus on that than playmaking.

[dbestpro]

Lol. I spilled my drink reading the title of this thread.

[lefty]

I remember, the guy I really fell in love with
The what now?

[RC_Drunkford]

Vassell will shine once we get a real PG. Let him play off the ball so he got more energy on defense. He can then be the scorer with the ball in his hand against benches when Wemby sits. As of now, he's just developing his offensive game. I'm not sure he'll be better than Haliburton though.

[Rosewood]

Lol. I spilled my drink reading the title of this thread. I like Vassell, but I fear this thread will be prime bumping material over the next decade.

[Tyronn Lue]

I didn't watch Vassell much, he got in the way of Victor's play imo. No one gives 2 shits about Vasselline. He's an NPC as far as I am concerned.

[ismael-robert]

If it's true spurs are eyeing 25 draft we won't see players peaks for another year