Topic & Buzelis or Risacher & Sheppard

[Knoxxx]

If we get a high pick and TOR pick, it seems like we would be able to take Topic OR Risacher then Sheppard OR Buzelis. Assuming we went best available PG and SF. Which would you prefer?

[John B]

If we get 1st and 7th? I’d take Sarr and Topic/Dilly. T’Wolves lost tonight but nobody thought that KAT/Gobert would work. I doubt any team would look forward playing against that duo. I’m expecting a player like Donovan would force himself to get to play alongside Wemby, it’s just a matter of which would be the lucky one.

[buttsR4rebounding]

I’d definitely prefer Risacher and Reed. Reed IMO had the highest floor of the 4 and Risacher a much safer bet than Buzelis. I think Reed is likely gone though before 7.

[Knoxxx]

If we get 1st and 7th? I’d take Sarr and Topic/Dilly. T’Wolves lost tonight but nobody thought that KAT/Gobert would work. I doubt any team would look forward playing against that duo. I’m expecting a player like Donovan would force himself to get to play alongside Wemby, it’s just a matter of which would be the lucky one.

I don’t have a problem with Sarr but the assumption was he was gone when we picked. Tankathon mocks almost always give us Sheppard, even at 6 or later. Dillingham was usually going sooner, though I’m not entirely convinced he’s a PG. Board may have changed, Sheppard is now 4th.

Most common outcome on their mocks was what I indicated, though for the second pick sometimes Ron Holland sneaks in there because Buzelis went sooner.

[FutureMan]

If we get 1st and 7th? I’d take Sarr and Topic/Dilly. T’Wolves lost tonight but nobody thought that KAT/Gobert would work. I doubt any team would look forward playing against that duo. I’m expecting a player like Donovan would force himself to get to play alongside Wemby, it’s just a matter of which would be the lucky one.

If you pick Sarr then you’d have to select Dillingham. The reason why it works for the Timberwolves is because of their efficient 3 point shooting. Wembanyama would need to consistently shoot at least 40%.

[DAF86]

My prefered combos:

1) Risacher and Dillingham
2) Risacher and Sheppard
3) Dilly and Knecht
4) Sheppard and Knecht
5) Dilly and Buzellis
6) Sheppard and Buzellis
7) Risacher and Topic
8) Dilly and Sheppard
9) Risacher and Knecht
10) Topic and Buzellis

[Duncan2177]

Topic and Buzellis
Dillingham and Buzellis

[SOMA Spur]

Dilly then a wing (Risacher then Holland then Buzelis, but its pretty close with this group)

[Joseph Kony]

Of the two combos I'd pick Riscaher and Sheppard

[CGD]

Best wing first, then best pg. Not the other way around.

[mo7888]

If we get a high pick and TOR pick, it seems like we would be able to take Topic OR Risacher then Sheppard OR Buzelis. Assuming we went best available PG and SF. Which would you prefer?

I'd be very pleased either way. My preference would be Topic + Buzelis, but I'd have no complaints with Risacher + Shephard..

[Splits]

Only draft 1 and trade the other. Takes too long to develop (most) teenagers

[Knoxxx]

My prefered combos:

1) Risacher and Dillingham
2) Risacher and Sheppard
3) Dilly and Knecht
4) Sheppard and Knecht
5) Dilly and Buzellis
6) Sheppard and Buzellis
7) Risacher and Topic
8) Dilly and Sheppard
9) Risacher and Knecht
10) Topic and Buzellis

Knecht is a good option for a couple reasons, 1 is that he is a good fall back at the 7-8 spot since he seems sure to be available, and 2 while his draft age is touted as a negative, the Spurs need more players ready now rather than developmental players who need 2-3 years to be efficient and productive.

[JPB]

If we get 1st and 7th? I’d take Sarr and Topic/Dilly. T’Wolves lost tonight but nobody thought that KAT/Gobert would work. I doubt any team would look forward playing against that duo. I’m expecting a player like Donovan would force himself to get to play alongside Wemby, it’s just a matter of which would be the lucky one.

As been mentioned in other threads, I'd be worry in taking other teams (whose success remains to be confirmed) as examples of what spurs could or should do. Every team, situation and players are different. Wemby isn't Gobert, Sarr isn't KAT and spurs don't have an Anthony Edwards who makes everyone and everything around look better.

Let's also wait and see how their POs go.

[scott]

Buzelis and Holland for me.

[Knoxxx]

Buzelis and Holland for me.

Scott, all in on the wings! Why are you interested in 2 guys who can’t shoot the 3 ball though?

[scott]

Scott, all in on the wings! Why are you interested in 2 guys who can’t shoot the 3 ball though?

I am basing this opinion on the premise that Matas has a 3 ball that can quickly be unlocked/developed, and that Holland could be developed into a Kuminga-level shooter (.341 through his first three years).

If those two premises are wrong (which they may very well be), then it kind of blows apart my strategy.

I do want us to double up on wings/forwards though. I don't really care for the PGs at the top of the draft, but I see some potential in these SF/PFs

[scott]

Follow up: at this point I'm more interested in guards like McCain and Carter than I am Topic/Dilly/Sheppard

[Knoxxx]

Well you can theoretically develop shooters. The main reason I wasn’t sad to see Derrick White go was his poor shooting, which after a few seasons with BOS he did improve. Sort of the 3 and D argument, get someone who can play D for sure, and have them work religiously on their 3 ball.

[spurraider21]

Second combo by far

[spurraider21]

My prefered combos:

1) Risacher and Dillingham
2) Risacher and Sheppard
3) Dilly and Knecht
4) Sheppard and Knecht
5) Dilly and Buzellis
6) Sheppard and Buzellis
7) Risacher and Topic
8) Dilly and Sheppard
9) Risacher and Knecht
10) Topic and Buzellis
Mine is somewhat similar but sub Holland for Knecht

[BackHome]

My prefered combos:

1) Risacher and Dillingham
2) Risacher and Sheppard
3) Dilly and Knecht
4) Sheppard and Knecht
5) Dilly and Buzellis
6) Sheppard and Buzellis
7) Risacher and Topic
8) Dilly and Sheppard
9) Risacher and Knecht
10) Topic and Buzellis

[Mr. Peabody]

Dilly & Holland

[RC_Drunkford]

Dilly and Risacher

[John B]

3 sim lottery on the tankathon and each getting two picks, the last one 2nd and 7th. That would be awesome. Sarr and Dilly for me. Nobody’s going to the rim with that much protection :lol

[scott]

3 sim lottery on the tankathon and each getting two picks, the last one 2nd and 7th. That would be awesome. Sarr and Dilly for me. Nobody’s going to the rim with that much protection :lol

Who needs to get to the rim when you can just shoot wide open 3s on the Spurs pathetic perimeter D?

[widowmaker]

Who needs to get to the rim when you can just shoot wide open 3s on the Spurs pathetic perimeter D?


No shit these mother fuckers always double team everybody leaving 3 point shooters open all day long.

[heyheymymy]

Risacher + Sheppard would be a total heist if SA can pull it off

maybe land #3 and #7

[z0sa]

Of the two choices presented, I'd take Risacher and Sheppard.

[Knoxxx]

Topic and Buzellis
Dillingham and Buzellis

When I posted this Dillingham was rated higher than Sheppard, so the thought was he would not be available later (i.e. 7+). Now Sheppard is rated higher, which is completely arbitrary. I think Sheppard is more likely to be a PG solution than Dilly, but I'd definitely take either and especially as our second pick in the draft. Based on our positional needs, Sheppard/Dilly may very well be there at 7, Topic will not. That was basically the premise of the thread. We'd need a top 3-4 pick to get Topic, and is that really how we would best be spend that pick?

[heyheymymy]

Loving these mocks with Clingan, Buzelis, and Topic pulling up. Even Holland, Williams, and Knecht could get in there and push down some gold to SA in the event TOR conveys and has Spurs in the 7-9 range (or SAs own falls). Even 2 of those names goes top 5 and it becomes a very fluid situation with SA likely to get value at a discount

[Knoxxx]

We could easily add two players that end up being better than anyone but #1 for the Spurs and the issue of them taking a season or two to become that actually would work in our favor re 25 draft position. Its like heads we win tails they lose and if we miss on the TOR pick we still hold that card in 25.

[Knoxxx]

Loving these mocks with Clingan, Buzelis, and Topic pulling up. Even Holland, Williams, and Knecht could get in there and push down some gold to SA in the event TOR conveys and has Spurs in the 7-9 range (or SAs own falls). Even 2 of those names goes top 5 and it becomes a very fluid situation with SA likely to get value at a discount

Cody Williams is interesting to me. 6 foot 8 with 7 foot 2 wingspan, imagine if he plays out just as fluid as his brother but 3 inches taller and longer, with some evidence he can even shoot the 3 ball.

[stnick2261]

I've wanted Topic as my #1 choice all season, but Dillingham may be pulling slightly ahead with how vocal he was about being a Spur. I personally would like 2 of Topic, Dillingham, Sheppard, or Risacher (and that includes taking 2 PGs).

[SpursGenius]

Dillingham and either Buzelis or Saluan are my picks

[LeBowen]

It's most definitely going to be a point guard and a wing.

PG: Topic or Dillingham.
Wing: Risacher, Holland, Williams or Buzelis.

I didn't watch any of these players in detail, but I'd say Risacher and Dillingham would be ideal.

[SpursGenius]

topic will be a bust in nba book it. Cant shoot and subpar athlete

[SpursGenius]

If we get a high pick and TOR pick, it seems like we would be able to take Topic OR Risacher then Sheppard OR Buzelis. Assuming we went best available PG and SF. Which would you prefer?


Risacher has dropped some recently due to poor shooting second half. My top possibilities at 4 and 8 would be Dilly and Buzelis. I would also trade both second rounders to lakers and Keldon for 16 and Salaun

[RobinsontoDuncan]

I think I would go Holland & Dillingham as my top choices.

[Knoxxx]

This guy is clearly tracking my posts now Cody Williams just out of the blue at #8, I don’t think so!

https://nbadraft.theringer.com/mock-draft

[Atl Spur]

Buezelis at 4 would be dope

[Mr. Body]

Buezelis at 4 would be dope

I think he could very much be in the mix there.

[offset formation]

Topic and Buzellis
Dillingham and Buzellis

Those are my priorities as well though I'd be lying if I said I would be disappointed to add more Frenchmen to the roster. Lots of win-win scenarios at play here iyam.

[offset formation]

I think Buzellis will be the steal of this draft. And the fact he could be there at 8 blows my mind. Raises the question, do you take another guard in Dillingham or go forward at either 4 or 8 depending on what you prioritize. Seems to me Tre Jones is a goner though and he should bring back a nice trade piece.

[SpursGenius]

Buzelis and Dilly.

Wemby
Sochan
Buz
Vassel
Dilly.

dump KJ, and the two second round picls for Saulun.

[scott]

I think Buzellis will be the steal of this draft. And the fact he could be there at 8 blows my mind. Raises the question, do you take another guard in Dillingham or go forward at either 4 or 8 depending on what you prioritize. Seems to me Tre Jones is a goner though and he should bring back a nice trade piece.

I have a harder time seeing Buzelis lasting to 8 than I do with Dillingham, only because of the needs of the teams picking. Barring trades, the only real other threat to take Dillingham is WAS, whereas pretty much every team in the Top 7, aside from perhaps Houston, could use someone of Buzelis archetype.

My top 5 combos, in order, would be:

Buzelis & Holland
Buzelis & Dillingham
Buzelis & Sheppard
Risacher & Holland
Risacher & Dillingham

[Uriel]

Bumping this thread since there’s still no thread on Matas Buzelis in this draft and more and more mocks as of late have us picking him at #4 (especially in scenarios where Castle is off the board).

He’s taller and longer than Risacher while being the same age and also possessing self-creation ability, so I don’t get why he isn’t talked about more often. He’s a great fit on this roster, just like Risacher is.

[Spurs Homer]

Bumping this thread since there’s still no thread on Matas Buzelis in this draft and more and more mocks as of late have us picking him at #4 (especially in scenarios where Castle is off the board).

He’s taller and longer than Risacher while being the same age and also possessing self-creation ability, so I don’t get why he isn’t talked about more often. He’s a great fit on this roster, just like Risacher is.


yup

i agree - i said awhile ago...to my eyes

Buzelis and Dillingham look like the best players to me in this draft...

would not hate sheppard or a trade for an established star either...which the spurs NEVER do...

[BatManu20]

Yea been wondering why timvp (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=8) hasn't made a Matas thread yet tbh. He's a realistic target for us at 4 despite his lack of 3-point shooting. I have my reservations about any of these Ignite guys tbh, but there's no doubt he's talented young kid with a competitive edge.

[rascal]

The lack of interest in Castle and Salaun in this thread before the lottery and they will probably be the Spurs picks.

[BatManu20]

The lack of interest in Castle and Salaun in this thread before the lottery and they will probably be the Spurs picks.

Well yea this thread is literally about 4 other players lol. The Castle and Salaun threads have gotten way more traffic than this one.

[Pauleta14]

Yea been wondering why timvp (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=8) hasn't made a Matas thread yet tbh. He's a realistic target for us at 4 despite his lack of 3-point shooting. I have my reservations about any of these Ignite guys tbh, but there's no doubt he's talented young kid with a competitive edge.

What makes you sat that? His interviews/mouth?

Because on the floor the feed backs are the opposite. Not really the huge fighting spirit type of guy...

[DAF86]

What makes you sat that? His interviews/mouth?

Because on the floor the feed backs are the opposite. Not really the huge fighting spirit type of guy...

This is correct. Risacher showed me a lot more competitive edge by elevating his game for the playoffs, than anything Buzelis did, tbh.