The Case for Zach Edey Pick @4 or @8

[shaq_h8ter]

Zach Edey

Prudue 2023 Stats:
Physical Stats: 7' 4" & 300 lbs
2.2 blocks
2.0 assists
62.3 percent from the field
71.1 percent from the free throw line.
Averaged 32 minutes in 2024
Played 39 mins in the 2024 NCAA Final

Edey has won in consecutive seasons, the first time since Bill Walton won four major awards the Naismith Award, the Wooden Award honors, The Sporting News, the Associated Press, the Oscar Robertson Trophy and the National Association of Basketball Coaches.

Zach Edey is also the only player in NCAA history to average at least 25.0 points, 12.0 rebounds, 2.0 blocks & 2.0 assists per game.
Combine Results showed Edey ranked ahead of Clingan in lane agility time, three-quarter sprint, max vertical leap, and standing vertical leap.
While measuring a massive 7-foot-3.75 without shoes with a 7-foot-10.75 wingspan and a 9-foot-7 standing reach.
Edey also showed real touch at the combine which left scouts wondering if he had more long-term shooting potential than we saw at Purdue.
Other wins for Edey were posting faster lane agility times than other center prospects like Alex Sarr, Yves Missi & Donovan Clingan, all of whom are projected as top-20 picks.
Edey killed the 3-point shooting drills, hitting 14-of-25(56%) from deep.

Combine Measurements
Height w/o shoes: 7-feet, 3.75-inches
Weight: 299 pounds
Wingspan: 7-feet, 10.75-inches
Standing height: 9-feet, 7-inches

Drafting Zach Edey to play next to Victor Wembanyama can open up some unique Defensive and Offensive operatories.
Defensively Edey & Wembanyama could clog the space below the 3pt line.
With Edey sticking near the basket & Victor being a kind of one-man Zone.
All other wings would send them into the teeth of Victor or Edey's defense.

Offensively, the obvious play that comes to mind is either Edey or Wemby could easily pass the ball into the paint.
Allowing either player to score easily near the rim, with no point guard needed.

Edey could also greatly benefit Victor Wembanyama's longevity.
By sharing the minute load, taking on heavier player matchups like Joker or Embid
Edey could also be a decent backup for Wemby if an injury occured allowing Victor to rest.

Worst case a 7'4"+ Center could be great trade bait if things are just not working out between him and Spurs.
Even worse case, Edey could give Wemby problems later on in 2024 on another Team as his length and weight match up fairly well.

Zach Edey 2024 NBA Draft Scouting Report
https://youtu.be/vI2mRhTMpY4?si=fgw0K7TfYN0YptY9

Zack Edey to the Spurs: Genius Move or Career Suicide?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-GX3ujwWmc

[benefactor]

Didn't read. No....no

[Knoxxx]

I’d be fine with him and the #4, I think he’s easily a top 15 prospect. Just keeping him off another team also makes sense as other posters have said the thing about Clingan who I am much less worried about.

[Knoxxx]

Didn't read. No....no

Maybe arguable based on injury potential but he’s a real unicorn that destroyed Clingan head to head.

[Spurs Homer]

Why not

clingan at #4
edey @ #8

triple towers with wemby running point guard duty at times?

[Ariel]

Why not use BOTH 4 and 8 on Edey? Let's trade up to no 1 to grab him. Better yet, let's add Atlanta's picks and travel back in time to grab him!!!

[benefactor]

The Spurs do not need to burn a lottery pick on a center. I'm not sure why this needs to be explained. Yes he could be very good for some team that needs him but he's not good for this one and if you can't see why I can't help you.

[benefactor]

Why not

clingan at #4
edey @ #8

triple towers with wemby running point guard duty at times?
SUPER TRIPLE

[John B]

Victor can play the pg, why not?

[poopbox]

In 2025 the easiest way to get an open 3 in an nba game will be to put Edey in the pick and roll

[MultiTroll]

Zach Edey
Edey also showed real touch at the combine which left scouts wondering if he had more long-term shooting potential than we saw at Purdue.
Other wins for Edey were posting faster lane agility times than other center prospects like Alex Sarr, Yves Missi & Donovan Clingan, all of whom are projected as top-20 picks.
Edey killed the 3-point shooting drills, hitting 14-of-25(56%) from deep.

eight w/o shoes: 7-feet, 3.75-inches
Weight: 299 pounds
Wingspan: 7-feet, 10.75-inches
Standing height: 9-feet, 7-inches

Drafting Zach Edey to play next to Victor Wembanyama can open up some unique Defensive and Offensive operatories.
Defensively Edey & Wembanyama could clog the space below the 3pt line.
With Edey sticking near the basket & Victor being a kind of one-man Zone.
All other wings would send them into the teeth of Victor or Edey's defense.

Offensively, the obvious play that comes to mind is either Edey or Wemby could easily pass the ball into the paint.
Allowing either player to score easily near the rim, with no point guard needed.

Edey could also greatly benefit Victor Wembanyama's longevity.
By sharing the minute load, taking on heavier player matchups like Joker or Embid
Edey could also be a decent backup for Wemby if an injury occured allowing Victor to rest.

Worst case a 7'4"+ Center could be great trade bait if things are just not working out between him and Spurs.
Even worse case, Edey could give Wemby problems later on in 2024 on another Team as his length and weight match up fairly well.
Excellent points.
Pay no attention to the Collins Sniffers who want things to remain the same.

[scott]

The best case for drafting Edey at #4 or #8 is that you're the Spurs GM, but you've been in a coma the last 25 years and you've woken up just in time to make the pick but no one has told you it isn't 1999 anymore.

[MultiTroll]

Who will be the 1st Spur that Edey dunks over en route to a Spurs loss?

Prizes for winners.

[leo07251413]

We should convince Yao Ming to come back from retirement as well for real

[leo07251413]

We should convince Yao Ming to come back from retirement as well for real

[Big Empty]

As long as he dont end up on OKC or we’re in trouble for the next 10 years. I dont mind him at 8. There would be noone stopping our front court if we drafted him.

[OldMan88]

Having him playing next to Wemby would certainly be interesting. Opponents wouldn’t want to try to score in the paint and it would be difficult to lure both bigs away from the basket. Wemby at high post (ala DRob) & Zach at low post (ala TD) could be very interesting on both offense & defense…. Can’t double team both of them. Both players biggest challenge would be giving the other one room to operate.

[Obstructed_View]

BPA

[venitian navigator]

Imho, as I've already wrote, Edey is the only one player in this draft that has the potential to become also in nba a fame changer in a positive way. Frankly I can't understand people who don't see him as a top ten player and possibly the bpa in this weak draft... And I don't understand that expecially after what the tests of the combine have confirmed what the ncaa tournament already showed to us all... He was a dominant big man in ncaa and I see no player on nba except for few ones that can compete with him in the paint. That said,the pairing with Wemby is obviously a match made in heaven. And we have at least two players (Sochan an
d Vassell) , apart Wemby that is a defensive player of the year since day 1) who should be able to switch wery well...

[cutewizard]

Having him playing next to Wemby would certainly be interesting. Opponents wouldn’t want to try to score in the paint and it would be difficult to lure both bigs away from the basket. Wemby at high post (ala DRob) & Zach at low post (ala TD) could be very interesting on both offense & defense…. Can’t double team both of them. Both players biggest challenge would be giving the other one room to operate.


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also he doesnt need to start, he can be the center of the second unit

[cutewizard]

Even if Edey just replaces the Collins, we are all happy here hehehehhe

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnoQGgfcbd4

[couchman]

I don’t think he’s a fit for the Spurs but I also think Edey has been wildly underrated just because big stiffs don’t work in the NBA anymore. But Edey isn’t a stiff. His testing shows a unique athletic profile. In the right situation he could be really good. I mean, if Denver can hide Jokic on defense then Edey can be hidden as well (if he proves worth it on offense).

[heyheymymy]

who would win the superbowl

a team of Edeys vs the '85 Chicago Bears and Ditka

[Limguogolo]

He can't run. It's not because he shown he could be fast at the combine that it will translate in games. A big body needs to run and... stop. Kinetic energy scout says no.

[mo7888]

Dementia.... that's the best case for drafting Edey at #4..

[mudyez]

At #4 NO!...at #8 I could be talked into it, depending who else is available.

[exstatic]

It’s funny that people think that the 3 point era came on without resistance. Teams TRIED to go against the grain, and overpower the small ball teams, and it didn’t work for one reason:3>2. It doesn’t matter if you have bigs scoring at 70% at the rim. They can’t out score the long bombers, and they can’t stay on the floor, because they get exploited on defense.

[shaq_h8ter]

https://youtu.be/gGEYeDHwhFE?si=zwMs-8PunFOM9yqq

[LeBowen]

It’s funny that people think that the 3 point era came on without resistance. Teams TRIED to go against the grain, and overpower the small ball teams, and it didn’t work for one reason:3>2. It doesn’t matter if you have bigs scoring at 70% at the rim. They can’t out score the long bombers, and they can’t stay on the floor, because they get exploited on defense.

Style of play is always determined by the best players and defenses are adjusted to them.
Warriors run coincided with a lack of great bigs and them having three of the best shooters ever.
Even then, they always had issues with legit bigs. AD did whatever he wanted against them, so did Jokic.
Even LMA did great. I'll never get over that 2017 series not just because I'm a Spurs fan, but as a fan of basketball. Noone can convince me that Spurs didn't find a recipe for that monstrosity.

Anyhow, their lineups worked only because there were no two-way, superstar bigs to match up against them.
Scoring bigs would get ran off the floor on the other side.
That's why I really wanted Giannis to make 2022 finals, it would've been interesting to see how they stop him other than Draymond's flagrants.


With that being said, I absolutely don't want another big to start alongside Wemby unless it's a KAT/Porzingis type that will just sit behind the 3pt line.
Having a non-shooting big next to Wemby would just take away most of his advantages.

[MackAttack003]

not too sure about his fit on this team, but head to head, he punked Clingan.

[exstatic]

Style of play is always determined by the best players and defenses are adjusted to them.
Warriors run coincided with a lack of great bigs and them having three of the best shooters ever.
Even then, they always had issues with legit bigs. AD did whatever he wanted against them, so did Jokic.
Even LMA did great. I'll never get over that 2017 series not just because I'm a Spurs fan, but as a fan of basketball. Noone can convince me that Spurs didn't find a recipe for that monstrosity.

Anyhow, their lineups worked only because there were no two-way, superstar bigs to match up against them.
Scoring bigs would get ran off the floor on the other side.
That's why I really wanted Giannis to make 2022 finals, it would've been interesting to see how they stop him other than Draymond's flagrants.


With that being said, I absolutely don't want another big to start alongside Wemby unless it's a KAT/Porzingis type that will just sit behind the 3pt line.
Having a non-shooting big next to Wemby would just take away most of his advantages.

Style of play,in this case, is determined by the RULES. Not allowing players to fight thru screens, which has been illegal since the rule change in 2015, sounded the death knell of the big man era, and big men in particular. They’re specialists now, who play limited minutes. If you can’t switch, and most bigs can’t, you can be played off the floor. Hell, GS did it to Clint Capela in the playoffs when he was with Houston, and they salary dumped him. He was a really athletic dude, too.

Golden State didn’t win a title until they changed that rule, and then they were unbeatable.

[LeBowen]

Style of play,in this case, is determined by the RULES. Not allowing players to fight thru screens, which has been illegal since the rule change in 2015, sounded the death knell of the big man era, and big men in particular. Hell, GS did it to Clint Capela in the playoffs when he was with Houston, and they salary dumped him. He was a really athletic dude, too.

Rules obviously started favoring perimeter players, but that death kneel was just for average bigs. It was just a dry spell with the lack of elite bigs.

They’re specialists now, who play limited minutes. If you can’t switch, and most bigs can’t, you can be played off the floor.


Hell, GS did it to Clint Capela in the playoffs when he was with Houston, and they salary dumped him. He was a really athletic dude, too.

There's no use for bigs like Capela against small lineups if they can't punish undersized opposition.
And MDA didn't care about punishing lack of size whatsoever unless it was Harden attacking the rim.

Spurs made LMA and 37 year old Pau effective against both Rockets and GSW just a year earlier.

[K...]

you draft him at 4 if you think he'll be a serviceable PG. I know we have Sochan and Jones so it'll be tough to beat out, but if edy were the pick here i would believe PAFTO knows what he's doing. if he's just a C you get him at 8 and trade wemby for another pic to get a player who complements him. It's really no a hard case to crack.

[jeebus]

Why not

clingan at #4
edey @ #8

triple towers with wemby running point guard duty at times?

It worked with Robinson, Duncan, and Perdue. That starting trio gave us multiple titles.

[Atl Spur]

Two teams are ideal for Edey….Spurs & Thunder. If neither select him, that will be telling.

[lebomb]

It wouldnt be a crazy idea to take him at #8. I can see Victor at wing since he can shoot and has great handles and passing skills. Edey would command the center position with defense and being able to grab tons of rebounds. Why not?

[Atl Spur]

It’s funny how a ton of basketball experts on this board swore a Vic and KP couldn’t work but we all now know that wasn’t true! I’ll do a wait and see on this; for what it’s worth “ I “ think it could work in a big way because we have Vic.

[BackHome]

It’s funny that people think that the 3 point era came on without resistance. Teams TRIED to go against the grain, and overpower the small ball teams, and it didn’t work for one reason:3>2. It doesn’t matter if you have bigs scoring at 70% at the rim. They can’t out score the long bombers, and they can’t stay on the floor, because they get exploited on defense.

A big part was all the rules changed as the defensive were pretty much neutered all in the name to help team’s offense 3 ball shooters - The Steph Rules

[Seventyniner]

who would win the superbowl

a team of Edeys vs the '85 Chicago Bears and Ditka

That would be a tussle.

[exstatic]

Rules obviously started favoring perimeter players, but that death kneel was just for average bigs. It was just a dry spell with the lack of elite bigs.

They’re specialists now, who play limited minutes. If you can’t switch, and most bigs can’t, you can be played off the floor.



There's no use for bigs like Capela against small lineups if they can't punish undersized opposition.
And MDA didn't care about punishing lack of size whatsoever unless it was Harden attacking the rim.

Spurs made LMA and 37 year old Pau effective against both Rockets and GSW just a year earlier.

There’s no use for an Edey if he gets played off the floor by switching, and if the y can do it to the more athletic Capela of 5 years ago, they’ll be planning their offense around getting Edey on a guard.

[LeBowen]

There’s no use for an Edey if he gets played off the floor by switching, and if the y can do it to the more athletic Capela of 5 years ago, they’ll be planning their offense around getting Edey on a guard.

I never said I want Edey or any other traditional big.
My point was just that the style of play in every era is determined by it's best players.

[R. DeMurre]

I do feel kinda bad for Edey, who just happens to exist in the wrong era for his type of game. 25 Years ago, he'd be in the running for the #1 pick. That, plus he surprisingly outperformed Clingan in the Combine's athletic testing portion, and still can't (for some) shake the label of "big stiff." I think he'll be better than many think-- look at what Hartenstein is doing for the Knicks... Edey can at least be an effective bench center.

[couchman]

People act like bigs don’t continue to dominate the league.
Yes, the 3pointer has changed the game, and we had a dry spell of elite bigs for a quick Golden State minute, but regular order has been restored.
The last 6 MVPs were elite bigs.
3 of the last 4 champs featured elite bigs.
Unless you have Curry (or a lucky string of injuries to your opponents) you have a hard time lifting a trophy without an elite big.This is why Boston keeps coming up short despite a stacked roster. Maybe this year finally?
Wemby and Chet are redefining what a big is but they’ll carry it forwards.
Meanwhile a slow stiff big like Jokic is the best player on the planet.
No one is questioning whether Eddy will score a lot in the NBA.
If a team decides to build around him and endure the learning curve on defense he will do well.

[Atl Spur]

It’s about the supporting cast, Joker as well as others are insulated by the surrounding players on defense. If OKC would of had Edey, Dallas would’ve been in serious trouble.

[Atl Spur]

People act like bigs don’t continue to dominate the league.
Yes, the 3pointer has changed the game, and we had a dry spell of elite bigs for a quick Golden State minute, but regular order has been restored.
The last 6 MVPs were elite bigs.
3 of the last 4 champs featured elite bigs.
Unless you have Curry (or a lucky string of injuries to your opponents) you have a hard time lifting a trophy without an elite big.This is why Boston keeps coming up short despite a stacked roster. Maybe this year finally?
Wemby and Chet are redefining what a big is but they’ll carry it forwards.
Meanwhile a slow stiff big like Jokic is the best player on the planet.
No one is questioning whether Eddy will score a lot in the NBA.
If a team decides to build around him and endure the learning curve on defense he will do well.

^This

Some hate when facts get in the way of a good debate! Furthermore, this dudes stamina is unreal. Trim him down 10 lbs, work on footwork, and voila!

[couchman]

Fun video about how Denver built their defense to protect Jokic from PnR on the outside.
Keep in mind what a terrible defender Jokic is in space and then realize they built a top10 defense with him.

https://youtu.be/XqwTkgj5ORY?si=CYBFBH14ednwPhl2

[MultiTroll]

Edey killed the 3-point shooting drills, hitting 14-of-25(56%) from deep.
Chip England or another competent shooting coach gonna have Edey spinnin treys?

[mo7888]

It’s about the supporting cast, Joker as well as others are insulated by the surrounding players on defense. If OKC would of had Edey, Dallas would’ve been in serious trouble.

It's just not true, no matter how many times you repeat it. Edey isn't worthless, but he's limited and isn't starting on a championship caliber team.

[OldMan88]

So many comments sound like Pop when he didn’t think Scola & TD could play together, which he now admits was a huge mistake. Might have cost us a championship or two during “the gap years”.

sure, the current trend is dominant 3pt shooters, but extremely dominant 2pt scoring combined with good FT & good 3pt shooting could easily become the new winning formula in the NBA.

[Raven]

that wingspan pretty much guarantees he'll have an nba career. May be worth the reach at #8

[HankChinaski]

Edey at 8 is a stretch. If the spurs were to trade back into the first round for a player like Edey that wouldn't be a bad investment but a lottery pick seems excessive.

I think Edey is a talented player but not at 4 or 8.

Who ever picks him gets a player who should have a player with a higher floor. We'll see how individual workouts work for him and that will tell a lot.

[Mr. Body]

that wingspan pretty much guarantees he'll have an nba career. May be worth the reach at #8

True. Hashem Thabeet had a great wingspan and he had a great career.

[Raven]

True. Hashem Thabeet had a great wingspan and he had a great career.

nowhere near as good and he would have if he didn't foul all the time.

[SpursBills]

I don't like Edey any higher than like a an early 20s pick because he seems pretty limited to me especially in a playoff setting, but I'm willing to go down this thought exercise because I'm bored. Edey's big advantage is that he's potentially a very efficient post scorer who can beat basically anyone 1 on 1 in the low post. He has a questionable jumper. On the other side of the ball, he's incredibly limited because even though he's more mobile than a guy like Boban, his size still makes his lateral quickness a liability, however he would probably do ok in drop. So in order to provide value, he has to punish smaller bigs on offense more than modern offenses can punish him on defense.

So far, the best example I can think of of a limited defensive archetype who forces you to adjust to his prolific post scoring is Alperen Sengun, so there is a precedent for this kind of player succeeding. I guess if you believe in Edey's passing chops improving down the line (still a negative AST:TO as a senior) then you have an argument especially if your team didn't have Wemby on it. I personally think though that if you're going to play a guy who can't space with Wemby, he really has to be a better interior passer with better vision than what Edey has shown. I'd certainly take him as a late first rounder to be one of the best backup bigs in the league, but probably not as a starter.

[exstatic]

People act like bigs don’t continue to dominate the league.
Yes, the 3pointer has changed the game, and we had a dry spell of elite bigs for a quick Golden State minute, but regular order has been restored.
The last 6 MVPs were elite bigs.
3 of the last 4 champs featured elite bigs.
Unless you have Curry (or a lucky string of injuries to your opponents) you have a hard time lifting a trophy without an elite big.This is why Boston keeps coming up short despite a stacked roster. Maybe this year finally?
Wemby and Chet are redefining what a big is but they’ll carry it forwards.
Meanwhile a slow stiff big like Jokic is the best player on the planet.
No one is questioning whether Eddy will score a lot in the NBA.
If a team decides to build around him and endure the learning curve on defense he will do well.

Giannis isn’t a big, he’s a wing, so that leaves one guy who has ungodly passing and shooting skills, and one oft injured guy who can shoot like a guard. Does Edey do any of these things? No.

[exstatic]

that wingspan pretty much guarantees he'll have an nba career. May be worth the reach at #8

He’s Boban,minus the shooting and passing.

[Raven]

He’s Boban,minus the shooting and passing.

quite likely.. which could be worth this years #8 imo

[exstatic]

quite likely.. which could be worth this years #8 imo

Boban was an unsigned FA who hit the league at age 28, has never played 15 minutes per game, and has eight seasons where he didn’t play double digit minutes. Someone who lacks several of his major skills shouldn’t be a lottery pick.

[scott]

A fit for Edey that I think would make a lot of sense, if the Pelicans opt to wait until next year for their pick, is the Lakers at 17

[Splits]

Prior to the NCAA tourney most mocks had Edey as a 2nd rounder. Yeah, but lets drop #4 on him because he punked Clingan one night and ran fast and loud at the combine.

[benefactor]

Prior to the NCAA tourney most mocks had Edey as a 2nd rounder. Yeah, but lets drop #4 on him because he punked Clingan one night and ran fast and loud at the combine.
Twin towers tho

[Obstructed_View]

It’s funny how a ton of basketball experts on this board swore a Vic and KP couldn’t work but we all now know that wasn’t true! I’ll do a wait and see on this; for what it’s worth “ I “ think it could work in a big way because we have Vic.
I thought people swore Vic and KP couldn't work because porzingis can't stay healthy.

[exstatic]

It’s funny how a ton of basketball experts on this board swore a Vic and KP couldn’t work but we all now know that wasn’t true! I’ll do a wait and see on this; for what it’s worth “ I “ think it could work in a big way because we have Vic.

KP is a completely different player than Edey. He has actual perimeter skills, shooting, ball handling and such. Comparing them because they’re both tall is the laziest kind of analysis possible.

[SpursGenius]

we have a lot of dumb here

[Robz4000]

Spurs absolutely need to find a good backup C but you don't waste a lottery pick on one when you have a generational one starting tbh.

[TimmehC]

In theory at least, Sarr would be a much better fit with Vic than either Clingan or Edey. That's really just because he at least fancies himself as a jump shooter. Since the Spurs are very unlikely to be in position to draft Sarr, we end up with posts like this. Also, the better Minnesota does playing tall ball, the more we'll probably see this opinion.

But Wemby's advantage is not his size, it's his mobility. Nobody that tall has ever been able to move like him, and this is why playing him at C is such an unfair advantage. If you ask him to play as essentially a jumbo wing like KAT next to a plodding C like Clingan or Edey, you're putting a lower ceiling on what this team is eventually capable of.

The goal should be a hyper-versatile team on both ends, which means guys like these plodding dinosaurs should be limited to bench roles (playing behind Vic and only occasionally/situationallly beside him). And using a lottery pick on a guy who you can't imagine starting for your team is just not a good idea, especially when Victor should be playing 36mpg or more for the foreseeable future

[Atl Spur]

Just don’t let okc get him….. there will be a lot history being re-wrote in here:)

[Ef-man]

Spurs absolutely need to find a good backup C but you don't waste a lottery pick on one when you have a generational one starting tbh.

True, stats don’t lie.

https://www.espn.com/nba/team/stats/_/name/sa/san-antonio-spurs

When Sochan and Johnson rebound average is higher than Collins and Mamu, there is a problem.

Through trade or draft, Spurs need serviceable centers to help backup Wemby.

[scott]

True, stats don’t lie.

https://www.espn.com/nba/team/stats/_/name/sa/san-antonio-spurs

When Sochan and Johnson rebound average is higher than Collins and Mamu, there is a problem.

Through trade or draft, Spurs need serviceable centers to help backup Wemby.

Unfortunately Collins contract kind of locks up the ability to do a lot at the position, at least until such time he is traded (but I wouldn't look to pay significant assets to trade him at this point). Bassey, if he can stay healthy, is an ideal fit both on the court and contract wise.

[Atl Spur]

I thought people swore Vic and KP couldn't work because porzingis can't stay healthy.

I’ll bump that thread to refresh thy memory:) You giving some these clowns to much benefit of the doubt.

[Atl Spur]

we have a lot of dumb here

Couple that with no humility and you got yourself a damn clown show!

[Mr. Body]

Unfortunately Collins contract kind of locks up the ability to do a lot at the position, at least until such time he is traded (but I wouldn't look to pay significant assets to trade him at this point). Bassey, if he can stay healthy, is an ideal fit both on the court and contract wise.

Don't the Spurs have about 20 million in cap space? How does his contract affect anything?

[scott]

Don't the Spurs have about 20 million in cap space? How does his contract affect anything?

How much do you want to invest in the backup center position? You ready to move a $17MM/yr guy to the third string?

[TD 21]

True, stats don’t lie.

https://www.espn.com/nba/team/stats/_/name/sa/san-antonio-spurs

When Sochan and Johnson rebound average is higher than Collins and Mamu, there is a problem.

Through trade or draft, Spurs need serviceable centers to help backup Wemby.

:lmao At relying on counting stats without context in '24.

Sochan and Johnson average significantly more mpg than Collins and Mamukelashvili, so naturally they're going to average higher rpg.

Look at rebound % or rate and it's unsurprisingly a different story. Mamukealshvili = 17.6, Collins = 13.1., Sochan = 11.7, Johnson = 10.

[JR3]

Hard pass

[Ef-man]

:lmao At relying on counting stats without context in '24.

Sochan and Johnson average significantly more mpg than Collins and Mamukelashvili, so naturally they're going to average higher rpg.

Look at rebound % or rate and it's unsurprisingly a different story. Mamukealshvili = 17.6, Collins = 13.1., Sochan = 11.7, Johnson = 10.

Thanks for making the point of Spurs needing a dependable center (from draft or trade) to help Wemby.

Pops did not give Collins/Mamu more minutes for a reason.

[C-Dub]

Castle or Dillingham with pick #4 and Zach Edey at pick #8. Wemby is considered an Alien and is not just a Center, he's all positions integrated into 1. His position should be called a Utility Player. You can start Edey in the same lineup with Wemby.

Jones, Castle
Vassell, Branham
Wemby, Keldon
Sochan, Mamu, Barlow
Edey, Collins

[Atl Spur]

I’ve said it before, castle is a pg and will shock most of you who really don’t know this.

[exstatic]

Castle or Dillingham with pick #4 and Zach Edey at pick #8. Wemby is considered an Alien and is not just a Center, he's all positions integrated into 1. His position should be called a Utility Player. You can start Edey in the same lineup with Wemby.

Jones, Castle
Vassell, Branham
Wemby, Keldon
Sochan, Mamu, Barlow
Edey, Collins

Only if you want Wemby to be nothing but a jump shooter. Edey’s man would automatically be an effective double team on any drives. Wemby would lack room to operate like he did paired with a C this year.

[C-Dub]

Edey can camp out at the corner 3 spots and open up the lane for Wemby on a lot of occasions. Edey has touch on his shot, as he proved at the combine, and can get better from the corner 3 with time. Just imagine the high/low game between Wemby and Edey. One of the two, at the top of the key, lobbing the ball to the other in the post could be almost unstoppable, considering both players height.

[Knoxxx]

Twin towers worked fine before.

[Knoxxx]

Edey can camp out at the corner 3 spots and open up the lane for Wemby on a lot of occasions. Edey has touch on his shot, as he proved at the combine, and can get better from the corner 3 with time. Just imagine the high/low game between Wemby and Edey. One of the two, at the top of the key, lobbing the ball to the other in the post could be almost unstoppable, considering both players height.

I agree that Edey may have much better 3 PT shooting than people expect because he has nice touch and there was no need for him to be anything but an inside monster. The typical Spurs Talk poster thinks we need to play exactly like every other team (aside from MN). Really!?! Play just like every other run of the mill half ass 2020s NBA team. GTFO!!!

The second counter argument may be even weaker. He goes in the 15-30 range therefore we cant draft him. Real chicken shit stuff, tbh.

[ambchang]

Edey can camp out at the corner 3 spots and open up the lane for Wemby on a lot of occasions. Edey has touch on his shot, as he proved at the combine, and can get better from the corner 3 with time. Just imagine the high/low game between Wemby and Edey. One of the two, at the top of the key, lobbing the ball to the other in the post could be almost unstoppable, considering both players height.

If there’s the high low game then he won’t be camping at the corner.

[paperboy77]

Trade Kelden and a second rounder for like a #12 pick and a possible trash to treasure role player. Eddy will be there at 12.

[Knoxxx]

Trade Kelden and a second rounder for like a #12 pick and a possible trash to treasure role player. Eddy will be there at 12.

Dammit you stole my idea!

[wildbill2u]

Victor can play the pg, why not?

Yeah, Sochan can give him veteran mentoring to learn the position

[C-Dub]

Castle or Dillingham at #4 depending on which one is available because I see Houston selecting one of the 2 with their 3rd pick.

Edey at #8 to help Wemby from having to always be responsible for gaurding the likes of Embid, Jokic, and other girthy physical big men down in the paint. Collins and Bassey is not going to cut it moving forward and by drafting Edey, that's one less big body Wemby would have to endure.

The Spurs could have multiple 1st round picks next year where they could focus on wing players in a much deeper draft class

[venitian navigator]

Castle or Dillingham at #4 depending on which one is available because I see Houston selecting one of the 2 with their 3rd pick.

Edey at #8 to help Wemby from having to always be responsible for gaurding the likes of Embid, Jokic, and other girthy physical big men down in the paint. Collins and Bassey is not going to cut it moving forward and by drafting Edey, that's one less big body Wemby would have to endure.

The Spurs could have multiple 1st round picks next year where they could focus on wing players in a much deeper draft class

Agree also if with 4 i would prefer the best available of Castle, Risacher, Buzelis, Holland, Sheppard, Dilly, Topic...it all depends on how they are considered by our scouts and FO...(im not a Dilly fan just because he looks to me too small and skinny and not a defensive oriented guy). But Edey is the only one with peculiar skills and a body you really cant teach...

[shaq_h8ter]

Zack Edey to the Spurs: Genius Move or Career Suicide?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-GX3ujwWmc
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/9TUVbdWrbTU/0.jpg

[Pauleta14]

Zack Edey to the Spurs: Genius Move or Career Suicide?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-GX3ujwWmc
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/9TUVbdWrbTU/0.jpg

Just watched it, the guy tried to justify his draft by saying "Spurs don't need a PG, they already have Tre Jones..." :lol:lol:lol

[Knoxxx]

Just watched it, the guy tried to justify his draft by saying "Spurs don't need a PG, they already have Tre Jones..." :lol:lol:lol

But you know Edey is looking mighty fine in that Spurs uni!

[shaq_h8ter]

But you know Edey is looking mighty fine in that Spurs uni!

Hell yeah!!!
He'll look even better when dunking on scrubs and blocking shots into the upper deck!

[Knoxxx]

Hell yeah!!!
He'll look even better when dunking on scrubs and blocking shots into the upper deck!

It'd be like having King Kong and Godzilla on the same team!

[shaq_h8ter]

It'd be like having King Kong and Godzilla on the same team!
Or Victor "Fantasic" and Zach "the Hulk" Edey!!!

[Pauleta14]

But you know Edey is looking mighty fine in that Spurs uni!

We definitely need a defensive Big, I don't have a solid opinion on Edey but watching Gobert strugling on the perimeter makes me wonder if he's the type of guy we need in 2024

[Knoxxx]

We definitely need a defensive Big, I don't have a solid opinion on Edey but watching Gobert strugling on the perimeter makes me wonder if he's the type of guy we need in 2024

I saw enough. I’d say his floor is Brook Lopez and that’s being more than generous to Lopez. No way Edey doesn’t rebound much better than him. He can play 40 minutes per night if needed and anchor the second unit, punishing teams inside at will. Great touch, combine shooting suggests there is potential for 3 PT shooting though that was not needed in college.

As far as chasing on the perimeter, I’d like his odds better than Clingan as he showed better at the combine on agility drills. Fit/strategy with Wemby is the only plausible reason I see not to snag Edey.

Contrary to the thread title, I’ve not been suggesting a 4 or 8 pick for him. But 8 is not ludicrous.

[shaq_h8ter]

We definitely need a defensive Big, I don't have a solid opinion on Edey but watching Gobert strugling on the perimeter makes me wonder if he's the type of guy we need in 2024

The one thing I'd say about Edey is he has not struck me as a player to give up or go soft.
Also in a playoff situation, the play becomes much like a half-court ball, where it is one team's defense against the other's offense.

[NASpurs]

Sometimes I find myself on team Edey just so Zach "Steph" Collins fucks off

[Pauleta14]

Sometimes I find myself on team Edey just so Zach "Steph" Collins fucks off

That's the main, if not only reason we're even talking about him :lol

[C-Dub]

When Wemby is subbed out the game, the Spurs defense falls off of the cliff. That's detrimental to the success of the team. That has to matter and be addressed asap because Wemby will get worn down over time having to cover up other players mishaps on the defensive end. I believe that it's wise to select Edey, even if it's with the 8th pick and select either Castle, Dillingham, or Shepard with the 4th pick.

[Eaglenole2002]

I would throw my remote through the TV if we took Edey at 8.

[SpursBills]

When Wemby is subbed out the game, the Spurs defense falls off of the cliff. That's detrimental to the success of the team. That has to matter and be addressed asap because Wemby will get worn down over time having to cover up other players mishaps on the defensive end. I believe that it's wise to select Edey, even if it's with the 8th pick and select either Castle, Dillingham, or Shepard with the 4th pick.

I don't know man, I think Edey is one of the safest bets in this class to be a good player and would kill in OKC, Boston, or Miami, but I don't know if you want to draft him 8 to be your backup big. I wouldn't melt down if that happened or anything, but there's quite a few guys I think I'd prefer. If you're trying to play him and Wemby together it plays right into the opposition's hands because Wemby absolutely roasts other bigs right now but has some trouble with strong wings, but with Edey in you're basically giving the other team an excuse to put a wing on Wemby. If you really want to improve defense when Wemby goes out, go out there and sign Bitadze for like 6 million a year or something and have him anchor your defense, he might do just as good if not a better job than Edey.

[Chomag]

Depending who is still available at @8 I wouldn't be all that upset . There are only a small handful of players in this draft that will become impact full players anyway.

[Knoxxx]

I’m kind of the thinking Clingan at 4 and Edey at 8.

The tri towers, had it ever been attempted?!? Three players over 7-2” barefoot?

[Chinook]

I've been a big proponent of the Spurs making a real investment in a backup center. A dominant five-man could definitely get 22-28 MPG. If the Spurs think Edey is going to translate, I'd have zero issue with taking him at 8 and only a bit of apprehension about them taking him at 4. As I've said before, if Edey is a dominant player who just isn't going to be able to be his best playing behind or next to Wemby, then the Spurs can use him as the centerpiece in a big deal. Building trade assets is a legitimate part of the path to contention, and getting prospects to trade that doesn't cost the Spurs their seed corn is the best way to avoid taking a step back after a major acquisition. It doesn't make sense to cleave to ideas about how the Spurs operated 25 years ago. This is not the 90s, and the Spurs have given plenty of indications that they don't intend to build like it is.

[eDizzle20]

Wemby and Edey…that would be a sight. Edey was so dominant and skilled in college. Very few could guard him in the low post. Wouldn’t mind at 8 at all.

[Snaq O'Meal]

I’m kind of the thinking Clingan at 4 and Edey at 8.

The tri towers, had it ever been attempted?!? Three players over 7-2” barefoot?

The Spurs had a tri tower line-up of Robinson, Duncan and Will Purdue on the court at the same time.

[BatManu20]

I’m kind of the thinking Clingan at 4 and Edey at 8.

The tri towers, had it ever been attempted?!? Three players over 7-2” barefoot?

Why stop there? Let's trade for Boban while we're at it and create the QUAD-TOWERS.

[Big Empty]

Imagine the Spurs getting Edey to drop his weight down to the 250/270 range. The guy would be able to move quicker & jump higher, and he already bested Cling in the championship and in the combine. Noone would be able to fk with our front court. 5 more rings for sure over the next 13 years

[SpursBills]

If I were the Wizards GM and Sarr went #1 as expected I would try and trade #2 overall to Portland for 7 and 14, then swing on Topic and Zach Edey. I mean fuck it, your franchise is going nowhere fast, I don't really see Risacher being all that likely to be better than Bilal or Deni, and even if he is, it probably won't be by that much. Why not swing for 2 of the biggest upside picks in the draft? Topic's stock is at an all-time low given his injury so he can almost definitely be had at 7, he's still 18 years old putting up the highest rim % and rim volume in ABA with ++playmaking and one of the few guys in the draft capable of being an engine.

Edey might be Boban, but nobody knows what his impact is going to be until he gets to the league. He's the best post scorer of the last 25 years (no hyperbole), shoots 80% at the rim while getting double and triple teamed constantly, and is probably the best offensive rebounder in the last 25 years. Deanondraft looked at his freshman-jr year stats and found he scores more points more efficiently, rebounds better, and has higher assists than Shaq's sophomore-jr years, except he can actually shoot FTs. Maybe he gets constantly cooked on a switch against better guards but who cares, he's going to cook anybody under 7 feet in single coverage in the post. If he's shooting 60+% in single coverage and can actually hold up in a drop, you're either tilting the math your way or forcing the other team to play a big unskilled center just to match up, which works to your advantage anyway. Definitely worth swinging if you might be getting Walmart-Shaq level production in the paint on offense, especially with 2 wings like Bilal and Deni who are big with length to help on defense.

And if neither of those swings works out, who cares? You're missing out on...drafting "taller Danny green"? Your franchise is fucked without some creative thinking anyway, you're right back to tanking in 2025. Might as well try for some prospects with actual upside and if there was any draft to swing on weird players that didn't fit the ideal archetype, it's this one.

[Knoxxx]

If I were the Wizards GM and Sarr went #1 as expected I would try and trade #2 overall to Portland for 7 and 14, then swing on Topic and Zach Edey. I mean fuck it, your franchise is going nowhere fast, I don't really see Risacher being all that likely to be better than Bilal or Deni, and even if he is, it probably won't be by that much. Why not swing for 2 of the biggest upside picks in the draft? Topic's stock is at an all-time low given his injury so he can almost definitely be had at 7, he's still 18 years old putting up the highest rim % and rim volume in ABA with ++playmaking and one of the few guys in the draft capable of being an engine.

Edey might be Boban, but nobody knows what his impact is going to be until he gets to the league. He's the best post scorer of the last 25 years (no hyperbole), shoots 80% at the rim while getting double and triple teamed constantly, and is probably the best offensive rebounder in the last 25 years. Deanondraft looked at his freshman-jr year stats and found he scores more points more efficiently, rebounds better, and has higher assists than Shaq's sophomore-jr years, except he can actually shoot FTs. Maybe he gets constantly cooked on a switch against better guards but who cares, he's going to cook anybody under 7 feet in single coverage in the post. If he's shooting 60+% in single coverage and can actually hold up in a drop, you're either tilting the math your way or forcing the other team to play a big unskilled center just to match up, which works to your advantage anyway. Definitely worth swinging if you might be getting Walmart-Shaq level production in the paint on offense, especially with 2 wings like Bilal and Deni who are big with length to help on defense.

And if neither of those swings works out, who cares? You're missing out on...drafting "taller Danny green"? Your franchise is fucked without some creative thinking anyway, you're right back to tanking in 2025. Might as well try for some prospects with actual upside and if there was any draft to swing on weird players that didn't fit the ideal archetype, it's this one.

No, Edey to Spurs!!!

[spurraider21]

I've been a big proponent of the Spurs making a real investment in a backup center. A dominant five-man could definitely get 22-28 MPG. If the Spurs think Edey is going to translate, I'd have zero issue with taking him at 8 and only a bit of apprehension about them taking him at 4. As I've said before, if Edey is a dominant player who just isn't going to be able to be his best playing behind or next to Wemby, then the Spurs can use him as the centerpiece in a big deal. Building trade assets is a legitimate part of the path to contention, and getting prospects to trade that doesn't cost the Spurs their seed corn is the best way to avoid taking a step back after a major acquisition. It doesn't make sense to cleave to ideas about how the Spurs operated 25 years ago. This is not the 90s, and the Spurs have given plenty of indications that they don't intend to build like it is.
ive warmed quite a bit to clingan at 8, tho i wonder if a lot of that is due to the expectation that 8 would otherwise be salaun :lol

[spursparker9]

This guy would be number 1 pick in the 90s and 00s

[jjspur]

Zach Edey is a decent player. He will get drafted and he will eventually play. When he has one of his monster games (and you know he will), a lot of GM's will be kicking themselves for not drafting him. Its really hard to justify taking him early, but you just know he will improve your team somehow.

[The Truth #6]

Drafting Dillingham and Edey would be hilarious and could actually help win games. Not overworking Victor long-term makes sense. Could be an interesting gear shift. Could fail spectacularly but so could lots of players.

[shaq_h8ter]

Imagine the Spurs getting Edey to drop his weight down to the 250/270 range. The guy would be able to move quicker & jump higher, and he already bested Cling in the championship and in the combine. Noone would be able to fk with our front court. 5 more rings for sure over the next 13 years
That is the thing, Edey is at a healthy weight.
Losing any appreciable weight would not be good for him, he has 299lbs of Muscle and Bones.
The dude is just as huge as F!

[HankChinaski]

If people want Edey on the spurs, Spurs should trade back or trade assets for a later first round pick in the draft.

I wouldn't use the 4th or 8th pick on just Edey.

Edey is intriguing but not started next to Wemby but if you are looking for a your first big off the bench or times when Wemby is out for a small injury from tweaking an ankle, rest, foul trouble having someone like Edey step in to the starting lineup or first big off the bench might be a good pick up. Just not with the 4th or 8th.

[tonight...you]

If people want Edey on the spurs, Spurs should trade back or trade assets for a later first round pick in the draft.

I wouldn't use the 4th or 8th pick on just Edey.

Edey is intriguing but not started next to Wemby but if you are looking for a your first big off the bench or times when Wemby is out for a small injury from tweaking an ankle, rest, foul trouble having someone like Edey step in to the starting lineup or first big off the bench might be a good pick up. Just not with the 4th or 8th.
Not that I'm advocating for Edey, but he and Wemby could make for some intriguing end-of-game matchups on D when you need a stop whether with the lead, or to get one with proper use of timeouts and player changes from D to O and vice/versa.
Have Edey be the wall at the rim and Wemby be the middle/perimeter roamer making a 2 layer wall.

Could make for some exotic zones, or something. I'm just spitballing here.

[Knoxxx]

Only a scrub poster is not solutioning how to add Edey to the Spurs this draft.

[Knoxxx]

I see that nobody accepted my gauntlet. How about the 4 pick to the Blazers for the 14 and Anfernee Simmons? And of course any other players they want from us within reason. Aka filler.

Then we take Edey at 14 while not worrying about whether they are dumb enough to take Clingan at 4 instead.

If the filler needs to include Keldon Johnson so be it, Knecht is a easy choice at 8 to upgrade at that spot anyway.

[SOMA Spur]

If I were the Wizards GM and Sarr went #1 as expected I would try and trade #2 overall to Portland for 7 and 14, then swing on Topic and Zach Edey. I mean fuck it, your franchise is going nowhere fast, I don't really see Risacher being all that likely to be better than Bilal or Deni, and even if he is, it probably won't be by that much. Why not swing for 2 of the biggest upside picks in the draft? Topic's stock is at an all-time low given his injury so he can almost definitely be had at 7, he's still 18 years old putting up the highest rim % and rim volume in ABA with ++playmaking and one of the few guys in the draft capable of being an engine.

Edey might be Boban, but nobody knows what his impact is going to be until he gets to the league. He's the best post scorer of the last 25 years (no hyperbole), shoots 80% at the rim while getting double and triple teamed constantly, and is probably the best offensive rebounder in the last 25 years. Deanondraft looked at his freshman-jr year stats and found he scores more points more efficiently, rebounds better, and has higher assists than Shaq's sophomore-jr years, except he can actually shoot FTs. Maybe he gets constantly cooked on a switch against better guards but who cares, he's going to cook anybody under 7 feet in single coverage in the post. If he's shooting 60+% in single coverage and can actually hold up in a drop, you're either tilting the math your way or forcing the other team to play a big unskilled center just to match up, which works to your advantage anyway. Definitely worth swinging if you might be getting Walmart-Shaq level production in the paint on offense, especially with 2 wings like Bilal and Deni who are big with length to help on defense.

And if neither of those swings works out, who cares? You're missing out on...drafting "taller Danny green"? Your franchise is fucked without some creative thinking anyway, you're right back to tanking in 2025. Might as well try for some prospects with actual upside and if there was any draft to swing on weird players that didn't fit the ideal archetype, it's this one.

Been thinking about a Spurs scenario similar to this. Spurs trade #4 for #7 and #14. If the best available at #4 is Castle and the Spurs like Carter just as much or more, time to trade down. Pick up Carter at 7, Buzelis/Knecht at 8 and then at 14 take a swing - and injured Topic, Saluan, Holland if he falls, or in this scenario your backup C in Edey. Then trade your second rounders. Might play out like this:

#1 - Risacher
#2 - Sarr
#3 - Sheppard
#4 - Clingan (Portland)
#5 - Buzelis/Knecht
#6 - Castle
#7 - Carter (Spurs)
#8 - Knecht/Buzelis (Spurs)
#14 Edey (or whatever project the Spurs want to draft...)

Not really loving taking 3 picks in this crap draft, but if it means the Spurs take a gamble at #14 as oppose to #8, sure why not. Okay, there's my Edey scenario, not going to happen but it would be fun rooting for Boban 2.0.

[mo7888]

Been thinking about a Spurs scenario similar to this. Spurs trade #4 for #7 and #14. If the best available at #4 is Castle and the Spurs like Carter just as much or more, time to trade down. Pick up Carter at 7, Buzelis/Knecht at 8 and then at 14 take a swing - and injured Topic, Saluan, Holland if he falls, or in this scenario your backup C in Edey. Then trade your second rounders. Might play out like this:

#1 - Risacher
#2 - Sarr
#3 - Sheppard
#4 - Clingan (Portland)
#5 - Buzelis/Knecht
#6 - Castle
#7 - Carter (Spurs)
#8 - Knecht/Buzelis (Spurs)
#14 Edey (or whatever project the Spurs want to draft...)

Not really loving taking 3 picks in this crap draft, but if it means the Spurs take a gamble at #14 as oppose to #8, sure why not. Okay, there's my Edey scenario, not going to happen but it would be fun rooting for Boban 2.0.

You could probably expand this and trade 7 + Cha to Cha for 6

Draft:
6- Castle
8- Buzelis/ Knecht
14 Edey/Williams/ Furphy/Salaun/Filipowski/ McCain etc

[shaq_h8ter]

Sigh, we could have had Edey at 8 but we traded for nothing but picks in 2030+
Guess we will see how big of a mistake this may have been this year.
Maybe we draft a legit big to back up Wemby in 2025.
At least we got Castle with the 4th pick but felt that might happen as he is very defense first.
Lauri Markkanen is an exciting thought, we'll see what happens in August.

[objective]

Edey would have spent 2 years behind Zollins getting over himself and being fair to the team

[couchman]

I stand by my takes earlier in this thread that Edey has an obvious path to success in this league.
I’m not sure he would have been a great fit on the Spurs though

[Knoxxx]

I stand by my takes earlier in this thread that Edey has an obvious path to success in this league.
I’m not sure he would have been a great fit on the Spurs though

A number of us sounded the clarion that Edey was worth acquiring in the 2024 draft and were met with not worth it. Edey however is not a normal backup center so we never had an honest discussion. Rather, queue the not a fit with Wemby correctionalists…

[pad300]

I think, if I had been making the picks, I would have talked myself into Edey at 8... I suspect he's going to be quite useful around the league. Being able to put 48 MPG of strong C play on the floor every game could work out pretty well.

[Obstructed_View]

I was agnostic on the takes about him, but he looks pretty fucking good as a pro.

[Atl Spur]

It’s funny how a ton of basketball experts on this board swore a Vic and KP couldn’t work but we all now know that wasn’t true! I’ll do a wait and see on this; for what it’s worth “ I “ think it could work in a big way because we have Vic.

Just saying….

[Atl Spur]

I’ve said it before, castle is a pg and will shock most of you who really don’t know this.

And this too…

[Knoxxx]

I don’t use terms that are popular like archetype typically, but the argument against him was along those lines. I was thinking of him more in terms of trendsetting. You make the teams adjust to you not the other way around. I think the two man game between Wemby and Gobert we have already seen and will get a much better look at in the Olympics is a lite version of what Wemby and Edey could have done.

I don’t dismiss the fit questions out of hand either, nor did I want to be telling anyone I told you so but fear that will be the case. We may not know the answer to that ever or until 2031 I suppose. I still thought we had an obvious bird in hand opportunity with Edey that we could easily afford to take a chance on.

[buttsR4rebounding]

He is my pick for ROY.

[taps]

Gimme that crow I’m ready to eat.

[taps]

Thought he’d be just another Thabeet

[spurraider21]

Thought he’d be just another Thabeet
They’re nothing alike

[RC_Drunkford]

Just saying….

Ms. Cleo still talking to herself when nobody gives a fuck :lol

[Atl Spur]

Ms. Cleo still talking to herself when nobody gives a fuck :lol

You need to exercise self awareness……. Your message board friends would understand:) Do better my boy.

[exstatic]

Honestly? If Bassey gets nabbed, just sign Boban. He’s like Edey with a jumper. We’re only talking 3rd string here.

[K...]

i guess this is what you get for trading the 8 pick for a 2030 pick, 5 years of saying EDEY could fix that. As could sengun etc.....

There will be edeys next year fwiw and when we need a cheap big, it won't be an issue

[Seventyniner]

Honestly? If Bassey gets nabbed, just sign Boban. He’s like Edey with a jumper. We’re only talking 3rd string here.

I would pay good money to see the Wemby/Boban twin towers lineup.

[exstatic]

I don’t use terms that are popular like archetype typically, but the argument against him was along those lines. I was thinking of him more in terms of trendsetting. You make the teams adjust to you not the other way around. I think the two man game between Wemby and Gobert we have already seen and will get a much better look at in the Olympics is a lite version of what Wemby and Edey could have done.

I don’t dismiss the fit questions out of hand either, nor did I want to be telling anyone I told you so but fear that will be the case. We may not know the answer to that ever or until 2031 I suppose. I still thought we had an obvious bird in hand opportunity with Edey that we could easily afford to take a chance on.

FIBA is very little like the NBA, and there’s value in non stretch bigs. You can park a rim protector in the paint, because there is no defensive 3 seconds. Perimeter players can fight through screens, unlike the NBA where that has been outlawed. When you fight through screens, everything is not a switch, and your big man doesn’t get hung out to dry.

Do you really think thst NBA teams surrendered to the 3 point era without a shot being fired? They ALL tried turning it the other way, exploiting the small lineups by running bigs at them. There are two reasons it didn’t work and won’t work. Bigs get cooked on the perimeter playing D, and 3 points will always be worth more than 2 points.

[LeBowen]

I actually can't believe that there are people in here who think Edey would've been good value at #8.
Unbelievable.

[MultiTroll]

i guess this is what you get for trading the 8 pick for a 2030 pick, 5 years of saying EDEY could fix that. As could sengun etc.....

There will be edeys next year fwiw and when we need a cheap big, it won't be an issue
Will there be "other Edeys" where the Spurs picks fall? Entirely possible no.
Bird was in hand.

B. I don't think there's gonna be another 7'4" who smoked in the agilitiy tests. Edey has potential to develop into an All Star.

[K...]

Will there be "other Edeys" where the Spurs picks fall? Entirely possible no.
Bird was in hand.

B. I don't think there's gonna be another 7'4" who smoked in the agilitiy tests. Edey has potential to develop into an All Star.

we have a superlative center . we don't need a 7/4 bench big, who will want good money on their second contract. And yes there will be bigs in his class or better. edey went to team that will pay to feature him. Good for them. we need cheap bench bigs.

[MultiTroll]

we have a superlative center . we don't need a 7/4 bench big, who will want good money on their second contract. And yes there will be bigs in his class or better. edey went to team that will pay to feature him. Good for them. we need cheap bench bigs.
And the bigs that you say are better then Edey will want good money on their second contract?

[Ice009]

Will there be "other Edeys" where the Spurs picks fall? Entirely possible no.
Bird was in hand.

B. I don't think there's gonna be another 7'4" who smoked in the agilitiy tests. Edey has potential to develop into an All Star.

I never really watched him at all as I didn't think he'd get drafted that high. It seemed he hard pretty darn good stats, though, so I was wondering if the Spurs would consider him and number 8. I assume they would have taken Donovan Clingan if he was still on the board. I assumed Edey was slow moving and it might not translate to the NBA. Did he actually do great in the agility tests at the draft combine?

What do you guys expect to be his realistic floor and ceiling in the NBA?

[MultiTroll]

I never really watched him at all as I didn't think he'd get drafted that high. It seemed he hard pretty darn good stats, though, so I was wondering if the Spurs would consider him and number 8. I assume they would have taken Donovan Clingan if he was still on the board. I assumed Edey was slow moving and it might not translate to the NBA. Did he actually do great in the agility tests at the draft combine?

What do you guys expect to be his realistic floor and ceiling in the NBA?
The athletic testing was kind to Edey, too. His lane agility time (11.19), shuttle run (3.01 seconds), three-quarter sprint (3.42 seconds), standing vertical leap (26.0 inches), and max vertical leap (31.5 inches) were all ahead of projected lottery pick Donovan Clingan.

NBA Draft Combine: Biggest winners from athletic testing, measurements (usatoday.com) (https://ftw.usatoday.com/lists/nba-draft-combine-bronny-james-athletic-testing-measurements-winners)

I believe he has All Star ceiling. Floor i think is solid backup C and / or very effective twin tower with Wemby.
Strong, he's not gonna get pushed around by opponent bigs. 7'10 wingspan, good luck beating him to rebounds.
Wemby is going to seriously need this sooner or later. Cheap phucks like Stefina Kerr will send their cowards after Wemby.

Also for Pop Sniffers / others who say the Twin Towers cannot work in the NBA, lets see how France does against USA in the World Commercialism Games.

[exstatic]

The athletic testing was kind to Edey, too. His lane agility time (11.19), shuttle run (3.01 seconds), three-quarter sprint (3.42 seconds), standing vertical leap (26.0 inches), and max vertical leap (31.5 inches) were all ahead of projected lottery pick Donovan Clingan.

NBA Draft Combine: Biggest winners from athletic testing, measurements (usatoday.com) (https://ftw.usatoday.com/lists/nba-draft-combine-bronny-james-athletic-testing-measurements-winners)

I believe he has All Star ceiling. Floor i think is solid backup C and / or very effective twin tower with Wemby.
Strong, he's not gonna get pushed around by opponent bigs. 7'10 wingspan, good luck beating him to rebounds.
Wemby is going to seriously need this sooner or later. Cheap phucks like Stefina Kerr will send their cowards after Wemby.

Also for Pop Sniffers / others who say the Twin Towers cannot work in the NBA, lets see how France does against USA in the World Commercialism Games.

FIBA =/= NBA. You know they have different rules that make bigs more valuable,right? There’s no defensive 3 seconds, so you can literally park a shot blocking big in the paint. There’s also no prohibition against fighting through screens, so your big doesn’t get cooked on the perimeter by automatic switches.

[Spurminator]

Edey's ceiling as a San Antonio Spur would have been backup big. I think he'll have a good career but it would have been a waste to draft someone in the top 10 who you know will never start for you while you have a healthy Wemby.

[The Truth #6]

I think Edey would have been a great backup. A change of pace, different look. Save some mileage on Wemby. I said in earlier threads he would be a good value, I didn't understand why Donovan was mocked so much higher than him. But I didn't think he would be taken at 8. So who knows.

[scott]

Edey's ceiling as a San Antonio Spur would have been backup big. I think he'll have a good career but it would have been a waste to draft someone in the top 10 who you know will never start for you while you have a healthy Wemby.

Especially one who is going to have to sit behind Zach fucking Collins, because that's how we roll here.

[BatManu20]

Let’s see how he fairs against NBA competition before blowing our loads over his SL games tbh. With that said, I do think he’ll have some success in the league. He might be put in a blender on the defensive end, we’ll see how he handles that. But offensively he will definitely contribute imo. He’s too big and too skilled not to.

[MultiTroll]

Especially one who is going to have to sit behind Zach fucking Collins, because that's how we roll here.
Yes perish the thought that Edey would have played beside Wama in place of Collins.

We just don't do that. :pop:

[venitian navigator]

Edey till now has played 2 Summer league games and had 2 anckle injuries, but do far imho he looked so good...I Will never understand why hes not been considered for so long time a top 10 draft pick (and why, having the chance, didnt draft him with pick 8). Hes big big big, fast enough, can pass and block shots and makes all shots he takes in the paint...frankly what else do you want from abig man?

[buttsR4rebounding]

Honestly? If Bassey gets nabbed, just sign Boban. He’s like Edey with a jumper. We’re only talking 3rd string here.

Ex with another massive fail coming…

[JPB]

Aaah, summer league. Where a couple of good games vs other rookies or NBA wannabees makes you "good as a pro" and a pick you missed.

I'll wait to see him vs. Jokic or Embiid before judging the guy who, like any other rookie, actually still has to play a real pro game

[Ice009]

I'm guessing speed on defense might be a problem for him? Mobility and guarding out on the perimeter? Having said that, I was very interested in taking him. Would have loved Donovan Clingan too if Portland didn't take him the pick before :(. Do you guys think the Spurs would have taken Clingan if he was still there?

[exstatic]

Ex with another massive fail coming…

We’ll see. I saw Clint Capella, a player a lot quicker, more agile, and more vertical than Edey get played off the floor in the 2019 playoffs, and subsequently get salary dumped for nothing

[spurraider21]

We’ll see. I saw Clint Capella, a player a lot quicker, more agile, and more vertical than Edey get played off the floor in the 2019 playoffs, and subsequently get salary dumped for nothing
no

[The Truth #6]

Pelton analytics favored Zach Edey relatively high for this draft, even with his age, so that was one factor that made me reconsider him.

[shaq_h8ter]

Would of, could of, SHOULD OF!!!!
We'll see this year, if the Spurs missed out on not picking Edey before the Grizz.

[spursparker9]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB3rFVfdW8U&ab_channel=ZHHighlights

He seems quite mobile tbh. Can see him averaging 15 and 12 with 4 blk

[objective]

He's significantly faster than Boban in the nba.

And this dude sets some mean screens and when he seals guys get sealed. Boxes out for real also.

He'll make a lot more money as a starter for Memphis than getting screwed around with in San Antonio as a backup getting over himself

[Pauleta14]

His weight loss not only gave him a lot more mobility but it also shows a real dedication and work ethic.

He's going to be good

[John B]

Is he better than top 10 Poeltl?

[rjv]

he'll be a solid garbage man, that's for sure.

[buttsR4rebounding]

While I hope Castle wins the ROY, Edey has been my pick for some time. I think he will have a superior career to Clingan.

[Atl Spur]

Shit someone took him #9 but im wildin ? lol lots of Crowe to eat in here from all the usual suspects with high post counts not wanting to be heard! Definition of insanity

[ambchang]

Edey is pretty unplayable now, but if he further improves his lateral quickness he could be a gem. I like the fact that he managed to correct a lot of his weaknesses in his senior year, as that attitude to learn and improve is the building block of success.

Good young man, huge, got great scoring touch, plays hard on D, he would be an all star, or even a superstar back in the 90s and 00s but the game just moved on so much and his style just doesn’t fit.

Hope to see him further improve. He has the right attitude and seems to be coachable so wishing him the best.

[james evans]

now that we see Edey for sure can't defend or consistently shoot, I expect him to be in a Spurs uniform within 3 years

[exstatic]

Edey is pretty unplayable now, but if he further improves his lateral quickness he could be a gem. I like the fact that he managed to correct a lot of his weaknesses in his senior year, as that attitude to learn and improve is the building block of success.

Good young man, huge, got great scoring touch, plays hard on D, he would be an all star, or even a superstar back in the 90s and 00s but the game just moved on so much and his style just doesn’t fit.

Hope to see him further improve. He has the right attitude and seems to be coachable so wishing him the best.

How, exactly, is he going to do that? He’s worked on it for a solid year, and already dropped the weight he needed to.

[playblair]

Shit someone took him #9 but im wildin ? lol lots of Crowe to eat in here from all the usual suspects with high post counts not wanting to be heard! Definition of insanity
they dont watch college basketball..........they get their takes from highlight draft videos commentators

[exstatic]

Shit someone took him #9 but im wildin ? lol lots of Crowe to eat in here from all the usual suspects with high post counts not wanting to be heard! Definition of insanity

This isn’t the flex you think it should be. Like many of us said would happen, he can’t stay on the court. He’s a foul machine, averaging 7.4 per 36 minutes.

[ambchang]

How, exactly, is he going to do that? He’s worked on it for a solid year, and already dropped the weight he needed to.

Honestly, probably can’t. I’m sure boban worked on it over the last decade or so but when you can’t you can’t. Still, seems like a good kid so I’m rooting for him.

[objective]

Averaging 14.5 & 8 in last 4 games in about 23 mpg with 1.5 blocks after 25 pts, 12rebounds, 4 blocks tonight

Doesn't seem so bad

[exstatic]

Averaging 14.5 & 8 in last 4 games in about 23 mpg with 1.5 blocks after 25 pts, 12rebounds, 4 blocks tonight

Doesn't seem so bad

Not sure who they played, but he can be played off the floor, and all it takes is a steady diet of pick and rolls thrown at him, putting him in switches constantly. The last time I looked,he was averaging 7.4 fouls per 36.

Edit: oh it was Brooklyn. They’re tanking.

[thiste]

Wemby needs spacing, he's already bad with Collins and less efficient with Sochan.

[objective]

Not sure who they played, but he can be played off the floor, and all it takes is a steady diet of pick and rolls thrown at him, putting him in switches constantly. The last time I looked,he was averaging 7.4 fouls per 36.

Edit: oh it was Brooklyn. They’re tanking.

The tanking team that Memphis lost to?

Anyways, after tonight, his fouks per 36 should be about 5.5 on the season. Young bigs tend to improve in that area as they gain experience

[Atl Spur]

This isn’t the flex you think it should be. Like many of us said would happen, he can’t stay on the court. He’s a foul machine, averaging 7.4 per 36 minutes.

Obviously long enough….. I’ll be watching:)

[Atl Spur]

Wemby needs spacing, he's already bad with Collins and less efficient with Sochan.

High low with him & Wemby= unfair

[CGD]

lol, and Memphis STILL lost to Brooklyn tonight

[Raven]

Leading the rookie ladder so far, as largely predicted.

[exstatic]

Leading the rookie ladder so far, as largely predicted.

Who fucking cares? He’ll always be a limited minutes player, because he can’t defend in space, and is a fucking foul machine.

[Raven]

Who fucking cares? He’ll always be a limited minutes player, because he can’t defend in space, and is a fucking foul machine.

it is entertaining

[venitian navigator]

Bump...Always been a fan of drafting him with number 8...he doesnt look that bad lately in Memphis...

[Em-City]

Yeah he's fine, but not what we need

[exstatic]

Bump...Always been a fan of drafting him with number 8...he doesnt look that bad lately in Memphis...

Not exactly a ringing endorsement for a top 10 pick.

He’s always going to struggle with fouls because he can’t defend in space, and that will limit both his minutes and his numbers.

Boban Marjanovic has a career PER of 25.5. That’s All Star level, yet he only started 25 games in his nine year career, and played 331, and that’s for many of the same reasons that Edey can’t stay on the floor. He’s a change of pace guy to shake things up, but he came into the league as an UDFA, and was certainly no one to spend a first rounder on, let alone a top 10 pick.