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Kori Ellis
12-06-2005, 01:28 AM
Wary Ginobili jolted in return: Collision to left knee not serious, he says

Web Posted: 12/06/2005 12:16 AM CST
Johnny Ludden
Express-News Staff Writer

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ORLANDO, Fla. — After spending the past five days receiving treatment on his bruised right ankle, Manu Ginobili returned to the floor Monday — and promptly hurt his left knee.

Ginobili suffered his knee-on-knee collision less than three minutes into the game. Spurs coach Gregg Popovich briefly replaced him with Michael Finley, but Ginobili returned and finished with four points, four assists and three rebounds in 21 minutes.

"When you're already (compensating) for one leg and you hurt the other, that makes it more difficult," Ginobili said with a laugh. "None of (the injuries) are serious, but, of course, we have to be careful. I don't want to take three steps back."

Ginobili thought his biggest problem Monday was that he played too tentative.

"I was being too cautious to play my game," he said.

Ginobili picked up his first points when Tony Parker found him near the basket for a reverse layup. He also helped slow Orlando's fourth-quarter comeback with a pair of free throws after driving into the lane.

"I thought the he was a little antsy in the first half," Popovich said. "In the second half, he took his time and let the game come to him a lot more. I thought he was getting into form in the second half."

After the game, Ginobili returned to the court to participate in a live TV broadcast by Fox Sports that honored him as the Latin American Athlete of the Year.

Reminded of Robinson: Dwight Howard turns all of 20 on Thursday, but Boston coach Doc Rivers has seen enough of the Orlando forward to remind him of one of his former teammates: David Robinson.

"To me, he walks like David, talks like David," Rivers told reporters in Boston last week. "He's very religious. His whole life is very much like David's.

"I don't want to put pressure on Howard. They're just very much alike."

Said Howard: "I just feel honored that an NBA coach would say I remind him of an NBA great. That's amazing."

Howard didn't get to see many of Robinson's games growing up, but he has watched footage of the former Spurs center's quadruple-double performance against Detroit on Feb. 17, 1994. Robinson also gave Howard some advice as he was getting ready to join the NBA.

"He said the stuff I do off the court will bring more success to me on the court," Howard said. "Stay away from temptation and stuff like that."

Hill on the mend, again: Orlando forward Grant Hill, who has yet to play this season after undergoing surgery for a sports hernia, said there's a chance he could make his first appearance this week.

He underwent surgery on Oct. 31 — two days before the Magic's season opener — and was projected to miss three to six weeks.

"It could be Wednesday, it could be next Wednesday," said Hill, who hopes to participate in his first five-on-five scrimmage today. "I think definitely within the next two weeks I'll be out there."

Since signing with Orlando in July 2000, he has played in 114 of a possible 427 games, missing most of the time because of recurring problems with his left ankle.

"I'm looking forward to getting back out there," he said. "I'm tired of sitting."

Francis out: Magic point guard Steve Francis rejoined the team after seeking a second opinion on a chest injury, but was not feeling good enough to play Monday night.

Francis said he strained rib cartilage in a single-car accident on Nov. 19.

Draft pick a French All-Star: Ian Mahinmi, the Spurs' first-round pick in the 2005 NBA Draft, was selected Monday to play in the French League All-Star Game on Dec. 18.

Spurs#20
12-06-2005, 01:34 AM
Will he play Wednesday?, the game is on ESPN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

T Park
12-06-2005, 01:36 AM
Maybe.

But I wouldn't play him if hes sore.

Nothing huge to gain out of pushing him in a december game against Miami.

strangeweather
12-06-2005, 01:40 AM
Draft pick a French All-Star: Ian Mahinmi, the Spurs' first-round pick in the 2005 NBA Draft, was selected Monday to play in the French League All-Star Game on Dec. 18.

Yay for that -- go Ian! :spin

Spurs#20
12-06-2005, 01:41 AM
When is Manu not sore? He gets hit somewhere in every game

T Park
12-06-2005, 01:43 AM
The question is,

is there a whole bunch of great centers to choose between in the French league??

Not flaming, just being realistic.

T Park
12-06-2005, 01:44 AM
When is Manu not sore? He gets hit somewhere in every game

There is a difference between December sore, and april/may/june sore.


One, you dont care and sit him and guess what hideous jacket hell bust out behind the bench.

the last three months?

You watch him suck it up and ball out 28 and make Vince Carter look like Melvin Sanders.

Spurs#20
12-06-2005, 01:46 AM
This is true, the NBA is a whole different game compared to the European leagues. Especially the French league

Brutalis
12-06-2005, 02:10 AM
Im going to love it if Ian turns out to be another Manu/Parker like prospect, being successful.

That would seriously piss the NBA off then. Hahahahahaha.

Kori Ellis
12-06-2005, 02:17 AM
The question is,

is there a whole bunch of great centers to choose between in the French league??

Not flaming, just being realistic.


True, but just so you know ... A few GM's/scouts around the league caught some of Mahinmi's games this season and now they are rumbling that the Spurs got another steal and that the kid is going to be something special in a few more years.

Take that for what it's worth.

T Park
12-06-2005, 02:27 AM
Don't get me wrong.

If Presti said the kid is gold.

I believe him.

Ive learned the golden new rule.

Do not doubt Sam Presti.

Presti=God

T Park
12-06-2005, 02:28 AM
Could this Mahinmi, be franchise esque in a few more years?

in other words.

WHen duncan exits, is this kid good enough to pick up and keep the team as good and afloat?

SpursIndonesia
12-06-2005, 06:01 AM
Could this Mahinmi, be franchise esque in a few more years?

in other words.

WHen duncan exits, is this kid good enough to pick up and keep the team as good and afloat?
He certainly has the physical tools, but so does the likes of Brown, Kwame :elephant .......good thing is, he's quite afar from "Bling,bling" temptation of American culture, and getting playing time & good coaching :angel

Bruno
12-06-2005, 06:50 AM
The question is,

is there a whole bunch of great centers to choose between in the French league??

Not flaming, just being realistic.

For the french ASG, it's not a selection of Players from some teams against other like in nba with East against West. It's french players against foreigners players (more than 50% of players who plays regular minutes in france are american).
You have some decent centers but most of them aren't french. Ian is 25th in rebounding and is the 8th french for this stats. He was selected for the ASG ahead of guys like Jerome Schmitt who played for France this summer.
To sum up sith the ASG, it's great for Ian, he will play with a 14000 attendance and it proove that he is on the right way but nothing more.


Could this Mahinmi, be franchise esque in a few more years?

in other words.

WHen duncan exits, is this kid good enough to pick up and keep the team as good and afloat?

Too soon to say.
Ian made a good season, he is a 10/6 guy in french league, last year he was a 6/4 guy. The road to the nba is still long but he isn't a headcase, he is a hardworker, play good D and is raw and young (19 years).
He looks great but is still a prospect... he is a great prospect. :drunk

TDMVPDPOY
12-06-2005, 07:07 AM
hey theres talk of knicks signin melvin sanders, is this true???

SequSpur
12-06-2005, 08:10 AM
He is hurt already? WTF? Just in time to sit out another game... :rolleyes

exstatic
12-06-2005, 08:21 AM
Um, he's not sitting out, Oompah Loompah.

sanman53
12-06-2005, 11:03 AM
Good luck to Grant Hill. Im sure he IS tired of sitting!

boutons
12-06-2005, 11:08 AM
Are Manu, Tim, etc really so vain that they risk their naked knees without kneedpads?

The kind of kneepads they can afford must weigh a couple ounces max and restrict movement not at all. mysterious.

strangeweather
12-06-2005, 11:35 AM
The question is,

is there a whole bunch of great centers to choose between in the French league??

Not flaming, just being realistic.

No, you're exactly right. We should certainly wait a few years before we start talking about when we're going to retire the guy's number. But the kid is really young, so it's great to see progress.

Hopefully, within a year or two he'll be dominating the French league, but even then, there's a ways to go before becoming an impact player in the NBA.