the '24 NBA FINALS: Celtics vs Mavericks

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Mavs had no business in the finals.

But they were there with a shot, but got mercilessly flushed in Game 1 and didn't know what to do. Sitting there in Boston for 3 days is torture. You just want to be in Texas and practicing there, not on foreign soil.

[Thread]

dallas wings simply shat the bed the entire series.. irving has been the worst of them all of course, but all wings have been shells of themselves at shooting, and a disgrace whenever they attempted a dribble.

You can bet your dollars that Boston had all those former Celtics comin' in there hard assing those players. No nonsense, but straight from the gut, demanding deliverance, that a new era could be started here, that could rival anything they ever did.

[chubbs]

Aht Aht. Carlisle got fired for trying to hold Luka accountable. Kidd actually isn’t the biggest issue with the Mavs, to my surprise. That roster stinks outside of Luka, and Kyrie. Also, Kyrie was MIA for two finals games.

are you retarded? you literally have no idea what youre talking about, most of the issue with carlisle was that he was a jerk to everyone on the team except luka, and just let him do whatever

[djohn2oo8]

are you retarded? you literally have no idea what youre talking about, most of the issue with carlisle was that he was a jerk to everyone on the team except luka, and just let him do whatever
Go ahead and believe that dumbass story. Carlisle is an asshole to everyone lol. Luka’s consistent whining has been enabled by Cuban over anyone else because he himself is a whiner.

[chubbs]

Go ahead and believe that dumbass story. Carlisle is an asshole to everyone lol. Luka’s consistent whining has been enabled by Cuban over anyone else because he himself is a whiner.

right. thats why luka was clearly seen yelling at rick midgame "whos in control, you or bob?" :lmao

[resistanze]

Luka is an offensive genius but defensively retàrded and whines at insufferable levels. Needs to clean that shït up tbh.

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Luka is an offensive genius but defensively retàrded and whines at insufferable levels. Needs to clean that shït up tbh.

Christ, I ain't seen you in years. I God's, boy.

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On topic...because he got insecure outta Boston and went overboard tonight in Dallas.

Boston went after him like the last pork chop on the plate Game 1 and won't stop until it's over. That's nothing like the first 82, a world a difference. One portends that there really won't be a big difference. That's just avoiding hard facts.

He'd better take a long look at himself in the mirror this off season, take the blame, [grab some jacks and timbers] like "Big Bad John" and [start back down.] If he does that passionately it will be his finest hour. If he doesn't he'll continue to malinger.

[resistanze]

Christ, I ain't seen you in years. I God's, boy.

Life and the such. How's it goes, old man?

[Thread]

Life and the such. How's it goes, old man?

That's just it, gettin' old. It's very disturbing. I don't know where the years went. It's absolutely amazing at times. But, they're gone.

[Barfunk]

:lol Mavs
:lol chubbs
:lol stretch
:lol mono
:lol spurs fans that picked Dallas to win it all

I definitely didn't pick Dallas to win. I had a bad feeling before the series started that the Mavs would lose against Boston. Oh well, the NBA gets what they want and gets a glam market another ring.

[TDMVPDPOY]

if the ponies get sweep...then lol doncic the donkey unicorn..he can go home and continue to cry me a river after every defensive play, refs aint going to bail you out cause u started to play defense for once

[baseline bum]

lol @ the people who bought the kidd fools gold

you got a guy the entire universe knows has no left hand, and you let him go right all game long. you have a play that has worked all season long, and you completely abandon it simply bc of a couple bad shooting nights by role players. you are on a 20-2 run, then call a timeout after a big defensive stop to kill momentum and a great fast break opportunity.

lots went wrong, but it's unquestionable the single biggest issue with the Mavs is Kidd.

people can blame luka for effort and whining or whatever but it's obvious kidd enables it. hold him accountable like any half decent coach would.

That timeout was fucking retarded. LOL the look on Doncic's face when Kidd called that.

[Ef-man]

Fox News Headline: Celtics survive Mavericks' valiant comeback attempt, take commanding 3-0 NBA Finals lead :lol

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/celtics-survive-mavericks-valiant-comeback-attempt-take-commanding-3-0-nba-finals-lead

[djohn2oo8]

Luka complaining about the refs after the game.

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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Luka complaining about the refs after the game.

Only pussies & assholes do it.

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That timeout was fucking retarded. LOL the look on Doncic's face when Kidd called that.

You get happy, even serene, you see an end to it, you've lost concentration and you act wholly inappropriately.

[Spurminator]

Sports are funny. A 5th seed led by a 25 year old unexpectedly makes the NBA Finals, loses to the team that's had the best record in the NBA for the entire season, and the narrative is the Mavs suck and Luka will never win anything. :lol

I love sports but fans are retarded, and ESPN is just Fox News for sports idiots.

[lefty]

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the fat slob doesn’t even play defense but complains they couldn’t play physical

[Neo.]

Sports are funny. A 5th seed led by a 25 year old unexpectedly makes the NBA Finals, loses to the team that's had the best record in the NBA for the entire season, and the narrative is the Mavs suck and Luka will never win anything. :lol

I love sports but fans are retarded, and ESPN is just Fox News for sports idiots.

and when retards like Doris Burke want to call out every single time Luka makes a mistake or complains while completely ignoring that A) he legitimately was fouled on many of those plays and B) Tatum was complaining a lot while not getting back on defense, and had several defensive lapses himself along with stupid turnovers, it just churns that narrative further.

LeBron and others been doing the exact same stuff for over a decade and the commentators are generally silent, but when Luka does it, suddenly it's the second coming of Hitler. but anyone with a brain knows why.

[Thread]

Sports are funny. A 5th seed led by a 25 year old unexpectedly makes the NBA Finals, loses to the team that's had the best record in the NBA for the entire season, and the narrative is the Mavs suck and Luka will never win anything. :lol

I love sports but fans are retarded, and ESPN is just Fox News for sports idiots.

ESPN put him on-the-spot as soon as they beat MN..

3 games later it was apparent, Spurm, he is not near ready for prime time.

& stop whining about the officiating!!! Act like somebody.

[JamStone]

Agree with everything being said about Luka as it relates to bitching and moaning about officiating.

But I wonder if Windhorst ever reported his King Bron Bron with such scathing criticisms. I don’t know if he has. Has he?

[DAF86]

and when retards like Doris Burke want to call out every single time Luka makes a mistake or complains while completely ignoring that A) he legitimately was fouled on many of those plays and B) Tatum was complaining a lot while not getting back on defense, and had several defensive lapses himself along with stupid turnovers, it just churns that narrative further.

LeBron and others been doing the exact same stuff for over a decade and the commentators are generally silent, but when Luka does it, suddenly it's the second coming of Hitler. but anyone with a brain knows why.

Every player whines, but not even close to the extent Luka does. He literally has something to bitch about on every single play. Win or lose these finals, Luka's image took a hit with impartial fans. Just look at our good old friend Thread over here, rooting for the Mavs but still can't stomach Doncic's act.

I watch a lot of regular season ball, but I never realized Luka was this much of a cry baby. He needs to tone it down a level or two, tbh.

[FrostKing]

Tough to do considering guys whine more as they age and stockpile accolades

[djohn2oo8]

Agree with everything being said about Luka as it relates to bitching and moaning about officiating.

But I wonder if Windhorst ever reported his King Bron Bron with such scathing criticisms. I don’t know if he has. Has he?
Nope he has not.

[djohn2oo8]

and when retards like Doris Burke want to call out every single time Luka makes a mistake or complains while completely ignoring that A) he legitimately was fouled on many of those plays and B) Tatum was complaining a lot while not getting back on defense, and had several defensive lapses himself along with stupid turnovers, it just churns that narrative further.

LeBron and others been doing the exact same stuff for over a decade and the commentators are generally silent, but when Luka does it, suddenly it's the second coming of Hitler. but anyone with a brain knows why.


Luke directly implied the refs were on the take a few years back when he made the money rub sign after he didn’t get a call. At some point that was going to come back on him.

[resistanze]

Every player whines, but not even close to the extent Luka does. He literally has something to bitch about on every single play. Win or lose these finals, Luka's image took a hit with impartial fans. Just look at our good old friend Thread over here, rooting for the Mavs but still can't stomach Doncic's act.

I watch a lot of regular season ball, but I never realized Luka was this much of a cry baby. He needs to tone it down a level or two, tbh.

Yeah claiming Luka's complaining is in line with Tatum and LeBron is just ridiculous :lol

I have never seen a superstar literally stop playing to complain like Luka does. You're a blind homer if you think otherwise.

[Thread]

Agree with everything being said about Luka as it relates to bitching and moaning about officiating.

But I wonder if Windhorst ever reported his King Bron Bron with such scathing criticisms. I don’t know if he has. Has he?

Of course not. Nobody is gonna challenge LeBron. There is no upside to it now. He's been canonized. He got that by simultaneously Minnesota Floyd being taken out of circulation and LeBron deciding after much consternation to take that last Laker's ring down from the shelf where it was right there for the taking. He debated long and hard about granting on White Laker fans, but finally took 'er down so we could tote it up and he could then send the Black bitches out to the talk shows sun up next day.

[Thread]

Luke directly implied the refs were on the take a few years back when he made the money rub sign after he didn’t get a call. At some point that was going to come back on him.

dj

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and when retards like Doris Burke want to call out every single time Luka makes a mistake or complains while completely ignoring that A) he legitimately was fouled on many of those plays and B) Tatum was complaining a lot while not getting back on defense, and had several defensive lapses himself along with stupid turnovers, it just churns that narrative further.

LeBron and others been doing the exact same stuff for over a decade and the commentators are generally silent, but when Luka does it, suddenly it's the second coming of Hitler. but anyone with a brain knows why.

:lmao In shambles because your great white hope has embarrassed himself on the biggest stage in the sport and the media, who incessantly slobbers over him, is forced to ridicule him.

If only white people could catch a break.

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:lmao In shambles because your great white hope has embarrassed himself on the biggest stage in the sport and the media, who incessantly slobbers over him, is forced to ridicule him.

If only white people could catch a break.

...gd rights, TD. We used to get the breaks, now you Blacks, you hog all of 'em. Every fuckiin' break. I go to the Wal-Mart, return desk. I'm late by a day..."Can you give me a br..."

"A break? No. The Blacks get those, you sir, get these crotch less panties back. Have fun. Next in line."

[Neo.]

Every player whines, but not even close to the extent Luka does. He literally has something to bitch about on every single play. Win or lose these finals, Luka's image took a hit with impartial fans. Just look at our good old friend Thread over here, rooting for the Mavs but still can't stomach Doncic's act.

I watch a lot of regular season ball, but I never realized Luka was this much of a cry baby. He needs to tone it down a level or two, tbh.

he definitely needs to tone it down no question. but he's also often got legit gripes. hes in a class with LeBron and Shaq in terms of frequently getting blatantly fouled with no call.

what he does is pretty much on the same scale as LeBron though. but gets way more hate in the media for it. as I said, it's obvious why.

[Neo.]

Yeah claiming Luka's complaining is in line with Tatum and LeBron is just ridiculous :lol

I have never seen a superstar literally stop playing to complain like Luka does. You're a blind homer if you think otherwise.

didn't say it was on scale as Tatum. just that they never bothered to say anything about Tatum whining and not getting back which happened multiple times, but would complain about it every time Luka even LOOKED at a ref.

bron is maybe my favorite player of all time. but he and Luka are absolutely comparable when it comes to how much they complain and how often they leave their defense hanging bc they are complaining and lazy to get back.

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...gd rights, TD. We used to get the breaks, now you Blacks, you hog all of 'em. Every fuckiin' break. I go to the Wal-Mart, return desk. I'm late by a day..."Can you give me a br..."

"A break? No. The Blacks get those, you sir, get these crotch less panties back. Have fun. Next in line."

Who said I was black?

:lmao At the ass backwards thinking.


he definitely needs to tone it down no question. but he's also often got legit gripes. hes in a class with LeBron and Shaq in terms of frequently getting blatantly fouled with no call.

what he does is pretty much on the same scale as LeBron though. but gets way more hate in the media for it. as I said, it's obvious why.

Not even close. I've never seen anyone as petulant and whiny as Doncic on the floor. It's so overt, that much the media, who desperately wants to anoint him (it's obvious why), is forced to discuss it at times.

[lefty20]

Sports are funny. A 5th seed led by a 25 year old unexpectedly makes the NBA Finals, loses to the team that's had the best record in the NBA for the entire season, and the narrative is the Mavs suck and Luka will never win anything. :lol

I love sports but fans are retarded, and ESPN is just Fox News for sports idiots.

Narratives by fans are funny.

Mavs when they make it to the Finals. "Remember this is no ordinary 5th Seed. Their mid-season trades transformed them and they had 21-9 record. Good for 3rd best in the league in that span."

Proceed to get fucked by Boston. " 5th seed led by a 25 yr old unexpectedly made the Finals... lol retarded fans"

[lefty20]

Mavs win game 3 by 30+ imo. Winner of game 4 takes the series.

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Common m8, need you to finish them.

[Robz4000]

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Common m8, need you to finish them.

Mavs winning the next four. Book it.

[Tyronn Lue]

Yeah claiming Luka's complaining is in line with Tatum and LeBron is just ridiculous :lol

I have never seen a superstar literally stop playing to complain like Luka does. You're a blind homer if you think otherwise.
In the Finals no less.

[Tyronn Lue]

Narratives by fans are funny.

Mavs when they make it to the Finals. "Remember this is no ordinary 5th Seed. Their mid-season trades transformed them and they had 21-9 record. Good for 3rd best in the league in that span."

Proceed to get fucked by Boston. " 5th seed led by a 25 yr old unexpectedly made the Finals... lol retarded fans"
Still a 5th seed. Yes their trade transformed them but it didn't make them a championship team.

But they should be embarrassed to lose to Boston in this fashion. Pretty sure the Pacers were as competitive even without Haliburton. Too many talking heads think Luka fouling out was the problem. The problem happened when Luka was in the game, when Boston went up by 21 and Luka was playing hero brick. So many possessions I said "just shoot the fucking ball" and they'd turn it over trying to be cute.

But Euroball is often ugly ref baiting bullshit like that. Luka was more interested in trying to draw a foul than in actually scoring or playing defense. He missed a couple shots late trying to jump into a defender instead of taking a solid shot. I like to see that James Harden level shit get ignored, often it doesn't in the RS.

[Ef-man]

Just four wins away from the chip

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[chubbs]

Narratives by fans are funny.

Mavs when they make it to the Finals. "Remember this is no ordinary 5th Seed. Their mid-season trades transformed them and they had 21-9 record. Good for 3rd best in the league in that span."

Proceed to get fucked by Boston. " 5th seed led by a 25 yr old unexpectedly made the Finals... lol retarded fans"

this is the "narrative" for maybe 1% of sports fans.

[resistanze]

didn't say it was on scale as Tatum. just that they never bothered to say anything about Tatum whining and not getting back which happened multiple times, but would complain about it every time Luka even LOOKED at a ref.

bron is maybe my favorite player of all time. but he and Luka are absolutely comparable when it comes to how much they complain and how often they leave their defense hanging bc they are complaining and lazy to get back.

No. There is no comparison to LeBron - Luka literally berates the referees play after play, game after game. He even berates his own bench, wtf? He literally stops playing, leaving his team 5 on 4. Jokic is more in line with Lebron's level of whining. Luka is in his own stratosphere.

It doesn't matter really, his bigger problem is being a complete turnstile in this series at historical proportions (I have to imagine the injury plays SOME part). And disappearing in the 4th offensively.

But he'll be back in the Finals again, he's too good not to be...but shut the fück up with the whining, it's a bad look...:lol

[lefty20]

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PR damage control team putting a better showing than Luka, tbh.

[MultiTroll]

I have never seen a superstar literally stop playing to complain like Luka does. You're a blind homer if you think otherwise.
How does Doncic compare to Apemond Green screeching and berating the refs?

Granted, Green is a media produced fake star but hey, 4 Finals baby.

[MultiTroll]

Watch: Warriors' Draymond Green gets away with yelling at officials for 40 seconds (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/watch-warriors-draymond-green-gets-away-with-yelling-at-officials-for-40-seconds/ar-AA1jnAcP)

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[resistanze]

How does Doncic compare to Apemond Green screeching and berating the refs?

Granted, Green is a media produced fake star but hey, 4 Finals baby.
If you're going to bold you should finish more of that sentence. No one would call Draymond Green a superstar, would you?

[MultiTroll]

If you're going to bold you should finish more of that sentence. No one would call Draymond Green a superstar, would you?


How does Doncic compare to Apemond Green screeching and berating the refs?

Granted, Green is a media produced fake star but hey, 4 Finals baby.

[Neo.]

No. There is no comparison to LeBron - Luka literally berates the referees play after play, game after game. He even berates his own bench, wtf? He literally stops playing, leaving his team 5 on 4. Jokic is more in line with Lebron's level of whining. Luka is in his own stratosphere.

It doesn't matter really, his bigger problem is being a complete turnstile in this series at historical proportions (I have to imagine the injury plays SOME part). And disappearing in the 4th offensively.

But he'll be back in the Finals again, he's too good not to be...but shut the fück up with the whining, it's a bad look...:lol

lol recency bias

[Neo.]

funniest thing of all is how trash talking has always been a legendary part of many legacies, such as bird, jordan, Kobe, and many others

but now when Luka trash talks? it's a problem and a sign of mental weakness and childishness :lmao gmab

[Spurminator]

funniest thing of all is how trash talking has always been a legendary part of many legacies, such as bird, jordan, Kobe, and many others

but now when Luka trash talks? it's a problem and a sign of mental weakness and childishness :lmao gmab

I do think there's a difference in trash talking vs. throwing tantrums with the refs, and as much as I like Luka I hope he outgrows the latter. With these Euros though, I don't know.

[Spurminator]

No one would call Draymond Green a superstar, would you?

I mean he's probably going to be in the Hall of Fame, so I guess it depends where the "superstar" cutoff point is.

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I mean he's probably going to be in the Hall of Fame, so I guess it depends where the "superstar" cutoff point is.

Hall of Fame, ROY, COY, MVP, nothing more than pretties, baubles, wall hangers.

You know what it is, Spurm...Make the playoffs, win the last game you play.

That's it & that's all.

[Neo.]

I do think there's a difference in trash talking vs. throwing tantrums with the refs, and as much as I like Luka I hope he outgrows the latter. With these Euros though, I don't know.

I agree. I'm not confusing the two. but there have been articles and analysts who have criticized him for being mentally weak bc he trash talks players and fans, instead of being silent.

[DAF86]

Still a 5th seed. Yes their trade transformed them but it didn't make them a championship team.

But they should be embarrassed to lose to Boston in this fashion. Pretty sure the Pacers were as competitive even without Haliburton. Too many talking heads think Luka fouling out was the problem. The problem happened when Luka was in the game, when Boston went up by 21 and Luka was playing hero brick. So many possessions I said "just shoot the fucking ball" and they'd turn it over trying to be cute.

But Euroball is often ugly ref baiting bullshit like that. Luka was more interested in trying to draw a foul than in actually scoring or playing defense. He missed a couple shots late trying to jump into a defender instead of taking a solid shot. I like to see that James Harden level shit get ignored, often it doesn't in the RS.

The Mavs were +9 when Luka was on the floor, he clearly wasn't the problem.

[lefty20]

The Mavs were +9 when Luka was on the floor, he clearly wasn't the problem.

If I can add some context, it was mostly in the negative until the big 22-2 4th Q run. That run happened because Tatum went into Kobe mode to gun for the FMVP. It was nothing special that Luka did. Dude has been a generational traffic cone this entire post-season. OKC/Minny didn't have the personnel to take advantage of him, Celtics do. That's why the Mavs have lost 7 straight to them.

[Tyronn Lue]

The Mavs were +9 when Luka was on the floor, he clearly wasn't the problem.
If we're going to argue based on +/- then Kyrie with better offensive output and efficiency was the problem since he was -3. The problem wasn't Luka exactly, but having Kyrie and Luka on the floor at the same time you can see quite often that Kyrie is standing around watching Luka go 1:1. Luka is doing similar with Kyrie.

[DAF86]

If I can add some context, it was mostly in the negative until the big 22-2 4th Q run. That run happened because Tatum went into Kobe mode to gun for the FMVP. It was nothing special that Luka did. Dude has been a generational traffic cone this entire post-season. OKC/Minny didn't have the personnel to take advantage of him, Celtics do. That's why the Mavs have lost 7 straight to them.

Luka has the Mavs' best +/- in the series, he clearly hasn't been the problem.

I dislike his constant whining and I would love to troll mavfans about Luka, but I prefer to keep it real, tbh.

[DAF86]

If we're going to argue based on +/- then Kyrie with better offensive output and efficiency was the problem since he was -3. The problem wasn't Luka exactly, but having Kyrie and Luka on the floor at the same time you can see quite often that Kyrie is standing around watching Luka go 1:1. Luka is doing similar with Kyrie.

All I'm saying is that folks are now trying to set the narrative that the reason the Mavs are losing this series is because of Luka's whinning, defense or heliocentric play, and the truth is that, for a series that is 3-0, the Mavs are only -4 with Luka on the floor, while they get crushed without him. So, clearly, the problem isn't Luka, in fact, the complete opposite. Luka is the reason the Mavs are in the finals, and these last couple of games have been somewhat competitive. The clear reason why the Mavs are 0-3 is because his supporting cast has sucked balls, including Kyrie, aside this last game.

[lefty20]

Luka has the Mavs' best +/- in the series, he clearly hasn't been the problem.

I dislike his constant whining and I would love to troll mavfans about Luka, but I prefer to keep it real, tbh.

No doubt that he his their best player, by far. But that doesn't him that his defense, or lack thereof, hasn't hurt his team. Because it has.

When you hang hang back to bitch at ref while your team loses a 4v5, you are definitely hurting your team.

When you get blown by easily then refuse to rotate and force your teammates out of position, you are definitely hurting your team.


We can acknowledge that the Mavs wouldn't be here without Luka, because it's true.

We can also acknowledge that Mavs would have a better chance at beating the Celtics if Luka didn't completely mail it in defensively, because it's also true.

[Neo.]

let's also not ignore how idiotic Kidd has been

anyone who actually watches the Mavs knows that playing hardaway is basically playing 4v6. he had absolutely no reason to play him so much. he's so bad that the moment he hits the floor, boston (every opponent actually) began attacking him instead of luka

[Fabbs]

When you get blown by easily then refuse to rotate and force your teammates out of position, you are definitely hurting your team.
Some of that is def on his bad knee.
I'm not a Luka sniffer nor am i putting his D all on his bad knee. But ive watched other Mavs games this season before his knee.
It's definitely jacked up. He's not faking it.
Quite the opposite.
I think he is nails at wanting to play and playing thru pain.

Hadaway Jr etc. What fucking pussies and low effort.

Brown and Kobme Tatum have MUCH better help then Kyrie and Luka.
Including CelticRef this series.
Undeinable.

[Tyronn Lue]

All I'm saying is that folks are now trying to set the narrative that the reason the Mavs are losing this series is because of Luka's whinning, defense or heliocentric play, and the truth is that, for a series that is 3-0, the Mavs are only -4 with Luka on the floor, while they get crushed without him. So, clearly, the problem isn't Luka, in fact, the complete opposite. Luka is the reason the Mavs are in the finals, and these last couple of games have been somewhat competitive. The clear reason why the Mavs are 0-3 is because his supporting cast has sucked balls, including Kyrie, aside this last game.
Luka is the reason the Mavs are in the Finals. If they lose (which they will) it will naturally be because, although he was really good in these playoffs, he couldn't carry the entire team in the Finals. Kidd is a different conversation. I don't think he's ready.

[Tyronn Lue]

Curious to see if either Brown or Tatum goes into hero mode chasing the MVP. Haven't seen it yet but :lol that airball WNBA layup by Jones Jr. Dallas needs to reconsider.

[benefactor]

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[Raven]

If we're going to argue based on +/- then Kyrie with better offensive output and efficiency was the problem since he was -3. The problem wasn't Luka exactly, but having Kyrie and Luka on the floor at the same time you can see quite often that Kyrie is standing around watching Luka go 1:1. Luka is doing similar with Kyrie.

you almost got it. The problem was kyrie because his ballhandling/playcalling was godawful and he was getting torched on every posession.

[Raven]

No doubt that he his their best player, by far. But that doesn't him that his defense, or lack thereof, hasn't hurt his team. Because it has.

When you hang hang back to bitch at ref while your team loses a 4v5, you are definitely hurting your team.

When you get blown by easily then refuse to rotate and force your teammates out of position, you are definitely hurting your team.


We can acknowledge that the Mavs wouldn't be here without Luka, because it's true.

We can also acknowledge that Mavs would have a better chance at beating the Celtics if Luka didn't completely mail it in defensively, because it's also true.

he has been murdering tatum on both ends the entire series.. the famous "got blown by" narrative is just laughable, as if they can't see the player always gets contested by a big when he lets the player go.. It is clearly by design, with a big contesting, and donut going for the ball swipe from behind. One on one on the perimeter he has been downright unplayable for boston. The supporting cast simply shat the bed massively, that's all there is to it.

[lefty20]

he has been murdering tatum on both ends the entire series.. the famous "got blown by" narrative is just laughable, as if they can't see the player always gets contested by a big when he lets the player go.. It is clearly by design, with a big contesting, and donut going for the ball swipe from behind. One on one on the perimeter he has been downright unplayable for boston. The supporting cast simply shat the bed massively, that's all there is to it.

Not true. Many of those vids show Luka giving up on the play & and waiting for a teammate to cover his rotation.

Sometimes he'll get even lazier and just stand there and point at nothing/nobody :lol

Dude just sits there and hunts for rebounds. He had like 2 boxouts in the entire playoffs through the first 2 games of the finals.

I'll give him his props today. He slid his feet and tried better to keep up instead of immediately giving up after the first step.

[Texas_Ranger]

Luka has not been good on defense this series and thats pretty obvious, but the media is portraying him like some scrub, while at the start of the season, the same media, didn't even have the Mavs making the playoffs... Oh, and Boston is a clear better team. Losing to them is no ''hit for Lukas legacy''... Hit for his legacy would be if he was performing as Tatum.

And anyone that had any knee problems, you would know that lateral movement hurts as fuck. I also don't think taking injections before every game is that good for you. So, if anyone really don't see that Luka is injured, he's pretty stupid.

[Pero]

If I can add some context, it was mostly in the negative until the big 22-2 4th Q run. That run happened because Tatum went into Kobe mode to gun for the FMVP. It was nothing special that Luka did. Dude has been a generational traffic cone this entire post-season. OKC/Minny didn't have the personnel to take advantage of him, Celtics do. That's why the Mavs have lost 7 straight to them.
LOL no. Before the finals he probably played some of his best defense in his life. Which may not be saying much lol, not saying he became some kind of defensive specialist, but he wasn't as bad as you make him out to be. He'll never be a good one on one defender (other than in the post), he's just not built for it IMO, but he can be an average team defender at least, when he's focused and not whining too much (and not too bothered by injury).

[lefty20]

LOL no. Before the finals he probably played some of his best defense in his life. Which may not be saying much lol, not saying he became some kind of defensive specialist, but he wasn't as bad as you make him out to be. He'll never be a good one on one defender (other than in the post), he's just not built for it IMO, but he can be an average team defender at least, when he's focused and not whining too much (and not too bothered by injury).

Did he doe? Did he really?

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I'm not sayin he took the entire game off. He tried for a possession here and a possession there. He is more than capable of it. Shit, he did it all first half just a few hours ago. But the fact is he did, in fact, coast for most of this post-season.

[Pero]

Funny, because he was lauded for his defense against the Clippers in particular.

[Neo.]

Did he doe? Did he really?

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I'm not sayin he took the entire game off. He tried for a possession here and a possession there. He is more than capable of it. Shit, he did it all first half just a few hours ago. But the fact is he did, in fact, coast for most of this post-season.

or maybe as has been stated multiple times, it's obvious team strategy due to his injuries. there's no question the defense has been shifting differently to help Luka. by creating a funnel where the big meets Lukas man much higher, it helps stop him from getting momentum to the rim and forces pass outs or uncomfortable layup angles (Tatum has missed a ton of those this series)

could he have given more effort at times such as game 3? absolutely, which he did in game 4. but it's obvious that allowing some of these blowbys has been part of the defensive strategy. if Luka provides enough resistance on his part, it actually works very well since brown and Tatum aren't great passers and don't have great vision.

ultimately the real issue for the Mavs all series has been offense, not defense. last night their pace was much better, instead of letting Boston get their defense set every possession.

[velik_m]

This game was more about Boston being flat than Mavs being that great. But it's nice to see some role players helping Luka and Kai. Still probably Boston in 5, we'll see it Mavs can make the series interesting.

[ambchang]

Hall of Fame, ROY, COY, MVP, nothing more than pretties, baubles, wall hangers.

You know what it is, Spurm...Make the playoffs, win the last game you play.

That's it & that's all.

But then 5 is not 5. Back to backs somehow counts more.

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But then 5 is not 5. Back to backs somehow counts more.

5 is 5.

Otherwise your regrets are your own.

[Thread]

This game was more about Boston being flat than Mavs being that great. But it's nice to see some role players helping Luka and Kai. Still probably Boston in 5, we'll see it Mavs can make the series interesting.

Little v; gettin' his basketball on. Ya little pisser, you.

[lefty20]

or maybe as has been stated multiple times, it's obvious team strategy due to his injuries. there's no question the defense has been shifting differently to help Luka. by creating a funnel where the big meets Lukas man much higher, it helps stop him from getting momentum to the rim and forces pass outs or uncomfortable layup angles (Tatum has missed a ton of those this series)

could he have given more effort at times such as game 3? absolutely, which he did in game 4. but it's obvious that allowing some of these blowbys has been part of the defensive strategy. if Luka provides enough resistance on his part, it actually works very well since brown and Tatum aren't great passers and don't have great vision.

ultimately the real issue for the Mavs all series has been offense, not defense. last night their pace was much better, instead of letting Boston get their defense set every possession.

That's the crux if innit?

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No resistance whatsoever.

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What really makes things worse is he often just gives up on the play after getting beat. No rotations.



After last night, lets call a spade a spade. Luka was just being lazy af. We saw last night that he is more than capable of holding his own defensively, if he can be bothered to do so. Instead, he opted to go down 0-3 before finally deciding to give a shit on that end.

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That's the crux if innit?

1800979637960626603

No resistance whatsoever.

1798922457002267056

What really makes things worse is he often just gives up on the play after getting beat. No rotations.



After last night, lets call a spade a spade. Luka was just being lazy af. We saw last night that he is more than capable of holding his own defensively, if he can be bothered to do so. Instead, he opted to go down 0-3 before finally deciding to give a shit on that end.

...it's easier that way.

[Pero]

I guess if Mavs instead of Luka had Lu Dort, to actually play some defense, they'd sweep the Celtics instead. Oh well, maybe they can still trade him.

[lefty20]

I guess if Mavs instead of Luka had Lu Dort, to actually play some defense, they'd sweep the Celtics instead. Oh well, maybe they can still trade him.


Oooh, spicy! We going straight into hyperbole now. It's either Luka's 0 effort D or the Dorture chamber, with nothing in between.

Understood m8.

[Pero]

Oooh, spicy! We going straight into hyperbole now. It's either Luka's 0 effort D or the Dorture chamber, with nothing in between.

Understood m8.

:rollin

I just think that his defensive issues are being somewhat overblown.

[Donald Sterling.]

Maybe the Celtics took their foot off the gas in game 4, with the purpose of lifting #18 in Boston in front of their fans. Maybe it was just sheer desperation by the Mavs.

If there's still any semblance of pride in Dallas, they'll act like somebody and make Boston work for it in game 5. That's all you can ask for at this point.

[chubbs]

That's the crux if innit?

1800979637960626603

No resistance whatsoever.

1798922457002267056

What really makes things worse is he often just gives up on the play after getting beat. No rotations.



After last night, lets call a spade a spade. Luka was just being lazy af. We saw last night that he is more than capable of holding his own defensively, if he can be bothered to do so. Instead, he opted to go down 0-3 before finally deciding to give a shit on that end.

you wouldnt have had to post all that if you bothered to read the post you replied to :lmao

your obsession is creepy

[lefty20]

you wouldnt have had to post all that if you bothered to read the post you replied to :lmao

I did, and ignored the excuses about injuries. He looked fine against T'Pups and had over a week off. And once again looked fine last night while playing really sound defense.

The stuff about Luka taking one step and quitting on defense being a team strat wasn't worth replying to either. Tatum has been getting his passes out to cutters like Jure and White, they have gotten many easy layups due to Luka's poor positions after getting beat on dribble. Tatum is dishing out 6.3 asst/game. Clearly the statement regarding him being a poor passer doesn't hold much weight in the series. No reason to reply to that either.

While it's true that Tatum has struggled to finish at the rim, his teammates haven't.

The premise of the entire post was based on the bolded being true. Which obviously wasn't the case for the first 3 games.


your obsession is creepy

Hmm... having a discussion about the finals in a finals thread about a hot topic dominating the sports media coverage/social media = creepy obsession

Sure, let's go with that.

[chubbs]

I did, and ignored the excuses about injuries. He looked fine against T'Pups and had over a week off. And once again looked fine last night while playing really sound defense.

if you think he looked fine then thats proof you dont watch him at all and somehow have an even more worthless opinion than you already had :lmao

and everything else you said is the result of your garbage reading comprehension

[ambchang]

5 is 5.

Otherwise your regrets are your own.

You try to remember that next time you want to fly off the handle.

[Thread]

You try to remember that next time you want to fly off the handle.

You had your chance and blew it.

[Tyronn Lue]

Maybe the Celtics took their foot off the gas in game 4, with the purpose of lifting #18 in Boston in front of their fans. Maybe it was just sheer desperation by the Mavs.

If there's still any semblance of pride in Dallas, they'll act like somebody and make Boston work for it in game 5. That's all you can ask for at this point.
The Wolves seemed content to not be swept. Let's see if Dallas reacts the same way.

[DAF86]

If there was ever a team to give up a 3-0 lead, it would be these Celtics, tbh.

[Pero]

If there was ever a team to give up a 3-0 lead, it would be these Celtics, tbh.

Too bad they're not coached by Doc Rivers.

[Thread]

If there was ever a team to give up a 3-0 lead, it would be these Celtics, tbh.

Not with the old timers involved. And you can bet they're involved with crop in hand. They'll go to it all-day-today right up to tip.

(They) want to haul out that (18) and have a healthy contingent from the scum of MSM ready and more than willing to go in direct support.

[MultiTroll]

Game time 2 hrs.

Make your predictions now.

Mavs.

[GAustex]

Get ol Cowens, JoJo, Heinson, ML and the Legend out there to yuk it up.

[Raven]

think luka goes for 55 and dallas loses

[Barfunk]

Smh Mavs. NBA/ESPN gets what they want: Another ring to a glam team, as well as gets Luka barking to go to a glam team.

[Barfunk]

Dallas is playing shook. Will have to make a miracle second half comeback.

[skin27]

Celtics in blowout game 5 like 2014 spurs

[djohn2oo8]

Dallas is playing shook. Will have to make a miracle second half comeback.
Assholes are tight. Especially Kyrie.

[Donald Sterling.]

They finally start getting decent bench production in the last 2 games and Luka shits the bed.

[Barfunk]

Assholes are tight. Especially Kyrie.

It's over indeed. Indeed you do.

[lefty]

:wow Pritchard

:lol Lakers

[chubbs]

nico harrison has been absolutely amazing for all hes done in dallas

and right now he should be fired for extending jason kidd prematurely. this guy literally threw a finals game away to make thjs daddy happy, and now has his team looking about as interested as they would for a january game against the wizards

[Barfunk]

Boston has also gotten a few ticky tack calls to go their way. That always helps with momentum.

[djohn2oo8]

nico harrison has been absolutely amazing for all hes done in dallas

and right now he should be fired for extending jason kidd prematurely. this guy literally threw a finals game away to make thjs daddy happy, and now has his team looking about as interested as they would for a january game against the wizards
:lmao

[djohn2oo8]

Boston has Kyrie and Luka on the casting couch.

[Barfunk]

GD Doris, you just love the big market teams don't you? Jeez.

[chubbs]

boston shading 3 guys on luka and ky at all times. not much they can do when no one else can even dribble the ball without turning it over.

[Ef-man]

The Wolves seemed content to not be swept. Let's see if Dallas reacts the same way.

You called it. :lol

[Raven]

donut looks very off today, like he doesn't want to be there. Somehow, irving still outgarbages him by a landslide.

[Thread]

:wow Pritchard

:lol Lakers

We're back to holding the short & shitting end of the stick.

Back in the shitter for me. I'd gotten out with Biden's kid gettin' FELON hung on him. Could be a harbinger the other way now. This shit runs in waves.

[djohn2oo8]

boston shading 3 guys on luka and ky at all times. not much they can do when no one else can even dribble the ball without turning it over.
Excuses.

[chubbs]

Excuses.

explain

[djohn2oo8]

explain
It’s an elimination game. With Tatum playing like ass for most of the game. Luka AND Kyrie both need to get their team going. They haven’t even been competitive and honestly look like they quit.

[Ef-man]

Luka with the air ball three

[djohn2oo8]

Luka with the air ball three
Luka Harden.

[Donald Sterling.]

20pt lead and Jaylen Brown very blatantly trying to chuck his way to FMVP :lol

[Ef-man]

Up 19 going into 4th

[chubbs]

It’s an elimination game. With Tatum playing like ass for most of the game. Luka AND Kyrie both need to get their team going. They haven’t even been competitive and honestly look like they quit.

wasnt saying they played well

but they havent gotten a lot of clean looks either bc of how bostons defended them. unlike tatum who has all the space in the world and is still blowing chunks.

give luka the same team tatum has, and boston is going for a 3peat rn.

[GAustex]

Derrick freakin White is a winner

[djohn2oo8]

Might be the worst series since 07

[DAF86]

It’s an elimination game. With Tatum playing like ass for most of the game. Luka AND Kyrie both need to get their team going. They haven’t even been competitive and honestly look like they quit.

Hear this man. He knows about quitting on playoffs games after years of watching Harden, tbh.

[djohn2oo8]

Hear this man. He knows about quitting on playoffs games after years of watching Harden, tbh.
I also think Kyrie requests a trade. To LA.

[ambchang]

One of the worst finals I’ve watched in a while. Whoever nails threes wins, and by a lot. Just a garbage product.

[Barfunk]

Boston just the better team but they got some bs calls early on to get the momentum and just completely deflate Dallas. Add to that the whole Dallas team turned into 2004 Turkoglu, and that was all she wrote.

[chubbs]

One of the worst finals I’ve watched in a while. Whoever nails threes wins, and by a lot. Just a garbage product.

apparently you didnt watch g4 bc the mavs didnt blow them out with 3s. in fact they shot like absolute crap on 3s basically until the game was over and then suddenly the mavs scrubs were hitting a bunch of 3s.

[Ef-man]

One of the worst finals I’ve watched in a while. Whoever nails threes wins, and by a lot. Just a garbage product.

mavs chucking 3 :lol

[djohn2oo8]

:lmao slipping on his goddamn own

[Ef-man]

Even floor in Boston with a take away! :lol

[Barfunk]

If the refs were correctly programmed robots instead of these atrocious humans, this game would've been much closer. Early bs calls gave Boston the advantage they needed and completely took Dallas out of the game.

[chubbs]

:lmao slipping on his goddamn own

him and jaylen both slipped in the same area. someone obviously didnt mop that spot.

[Thread]

him and jaylen both slipped in the same area. someone obviously didnt mop that spot.

The White kids would always mop it bone dry. The Black kids ain't worth a tinker's dam at mopping.

[lefty]

If the refs were correctly programmed robots instead of these atrocious humans, this game would've been much closer. Early bs calls gave Boston the advantage they needed and completely took Dallas out of the game.

no

[Barfunk]

no

Yes

[Ef-man]

him and jaylen both slipped in the same area. someone obviously didnt mop that spot.

obviously the floor wants to win and didn't care

[lefty]

lol Udoka

[djohn2oo8]

lol Udoka
More like LOL Mavs. Tatum has no business being a champ.

[Barfunk]

no

I hate blaming the refs but I do it alot because it happens alot. I just can't keep quiet about it if it happens. Even on the replay they showed of Tatum getting "fouled", it was a very obvious phantom call. The refs took Dallas out of this one early, period.

[MarioSpeedwagon]

More like LOL Mavs. Tatum has no business being a champ.

If he wins the most fraudulent Finals MVP in history, this will drive me nut

[Ef-man]

More like LOL Mavs. Tatum has no business being a champ.

Next week the mavs will get the trophy at their riverwalk event after Silver and the SC step in

[chubbs]

More like LOL Mavs. Tatum has no business being a champ.

its much easier to be a champ when you have a stacked deck

[MarioSpeedwagon]

Tatum, boring as ever

[Barfunk]

The silver lining is that Derrick White gets a ring. The only silver lining about glam team Boston winning. Congrats Derrick.

[lefty]

Breem trolling the Lakers lol

[djohn2oo8]

They gave that corny motherfucker a commercial he like was some sort of underdog lmaooo

[Thread]

its much easier to be a champ when you have a stacked deck

That's the whole idea, the #1 goal...you don't want to compete. You want to win the easiest way possible, or, manageable. Those don't come by often.

[Raven]

congrats to the lakers passing on tatum for dbust :lol

[Thread]

Breem trolling the Lakers lol

Expected. & frankly deserved, we've been in the gutter a while now.

[Thread]

congrats to the lakers passing on tatum for dbust :lol

How bout you mofo's down in...

Wait a second, Dale, you promised.

Fine.

[Tyronn Lue]

So it's owner again Lisa? What happened to Governor?

[Raven]

yeah this finals sucked.. bummer, since the rest of the playoffs have been great.

[Tyronn Lue]

:lol Tater

[lefty]

yeah this finals sucked.. bummer, since the rest of the playoffs have been great.

yeah
Great playoffs but lopsided Finals (as expected)

[lefty]

:lol Tater
to be fair, his playmaking has been very good

[Tyronn Lue]

to be fair, his playmaking has been very good
he's soft. Still a champion.

[chubbs]

to be fair, his playmaking has been very good

lol its not playmaking when the moment help defense takes 1 step to help off their man it results in a wide open 3

he couldnt "make plays" for crap until this year when they have shooters galore

[lefty]

lol Par Riley

[Barfunk]

Derrick White a champ. The Spurs continue to have their hand in the cookie jar!

[Tyronn Lue]

Happy for D White. Dude was literally on point entire series, he's everywhere.

[djohn2oo8]

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lmfao they ain’t coexisting beyond next year

[Tyronn Lue]

Fear the beard, but not Harden's beard.

[Donald Sterling.]

Worst FMVP since Iguodala tbh.

[DAF86]

1802903618074673350

lmfao they ain’t coexisting beyond next year

He's literally smiling, the fuck? :lol

[davethedope]

I would’ve give fmvp to Porzingis. Game one was everything.

[djohn2oo8]

He's literally smiling, the fuck? :lol
Did you not see the way he was chucking at the end of the game? :lol

[DAF86]

Did you not see the way he was chucking at the end of the game? :lol

He was finally hitting shots. I also saw him miss a shot, get the offensive rebound and give it to Brown like saying "it's your turn to chuck for the MehVP".

[Proxy]

Mavs lucked their way this far and this Celtics team would’ve lost to any past champion. JB and JT are glorified role players that needed White and Holiday to get blowouts so they didn’t have to rely on them choking in close games. The Boston celebration was so performative. Tatum had rehearsed all his reactions, it was very cringe

[chubbs]

The Boston celebration was so performative. Tatum had rehearsed all his reactions, it was very cringe

i thought the same, everything from tatum and brown seemed so fake and forced.

[Ef-man]

The lamentations of all the mavs fans is sincere and delish thou.

I have not seen that much groveling since derp before he got perma banned.

[spursgu]

:cry i thought the same, :cry everything from tatum and brown seemed so fake and forced.:cry

[140]

celts too stacked, tatum best player in the series by far, mavs got no chance

boston in 4 imho tbh
called it tbh :tu

[Tyronn Lue]

copious amounts of copium being ingested in this thread.

[velik_m]

Rooting for Mavs, but Boston should have this in 5.

:(

[Arcadian]

Anything to knock the Lakers down a peg is just fine by me.

[timtonymanu]

i thought the same, everything from tatum and brown seemed so fake and forced.

lol he really tried to be like KG but “we did itttttt,” didn’t have the same flare as “anything is possiblllllleee.”

[Thread]

Anything to knock the Lakers down a peg is just fine by me.

I can't complain, your Spurs kept the Suns from it a few times when I had nary road block in the East had they gotten thru you. You were an absolute Godsend to me. Those were nightmare times. I couldn't even watch the games. I'd drive around till I knew it was over then have one of the children go into a bar and ask the final score, come back out to the car and deliver the news to their old man. That one time I forget which WCF it was but I didn't have a son with me ("Dale, you're not taking these children out of here. They want to watch the game while it's going on."
"It's okay, ma. I'll go with him. I don't mind."
"No, you won't!"

So, I went alone. Drove around for 3 hours worrying about it, finally I parked the car and went up to this lounge in the middle of a parking lot in a strip mall surrounded by potted plants and peeked thru the froms of a fake palm tree to see if I could spot a TV. What'd I find? Your Duncan, Ginobilli and Parker side by side by side smilin' being interviewed. I boggyed on back home picked up the children and we celebrated at Arby's.

You never failed me, not one fucking time.

Good days. Grand memories.

[DAF86]

I can't complain, your Spurs kept the Suns from it a few times when I had nary road block in the East had they gotten thru you. You were an absolute Godsend to me. Those were nightmare times. I couldn't even watch the games. I'd drive around till I knew it was over then have one of the children go into a bar and ask the final score, come back out to the car and deliver the news to their old man. That one time I forget which WCF it was but I didn't have a son with me ("Dale, you're not taking these children out of here. They want to watch the game while it's going on."
"It's okay, ma. I'll go with him. I don't mind."
"No, you won't!"

So, I went alone. Drove around for 3 hours worrying about it, finally I parked the car and went up to this lounge in the middle of a parking lot in a strip mall surrounded by potted plants and peeked thru the froms of a fake palm tree to see if I could spot a TV. What'd I find? Your Duncan, Ginobilli and Parker side by side by side smilin' being interviewed. I boggyed on back home picked up the children and we celebrated at Arby's.

You never failed me, not one fucking time.

Good days. Grand memories.

You live in Arizona, don't you? That's where your anti-Suns setiment comes from, right?

[GAustex]

I can't complain, your Spurs kept the Suns from it a few times when I had nary road block in the East had they gotten thru you. You were an absolute Godsend to me. Those were nightmare times. I couldn't even watch the games. I'd drive around till I knew it was over then have one of the children go into a bar and ask the final score, come back out to the car and deliver the news to their old man. That one time I forget which WCF it was but I didn't have a son with me ("Dale, you're not taking these children out of here. They want to watch the game while it's going on."
"It's okay, ma. I'll go with him. I don't mind."
"No, you won't!"

So, I went alone. Drove around for 3 hours worrying about it, finally I parked the car and went up to this lounge in the middle of a parking lot in a strip mall surrounded by potted plants and peeked thru the froms of a fake palm tree to see if I could spot a TV. What'd I find? Your Duncan, Ginobilli and Parker side by side by side smilin' being interviewed. I boggyed on back home picked up the children and we celebrated at Arby's.

You never failed me, not one fucking time.

Good days. Grand memories.
Proud of you Cully holding off on send on that missed Timmy D layup
As you promised.

[Thread]

Proud of you Cully holding off on send on that missed Timmy D layup
As you promised.

I came close to shitting the bed again, but I persevered.

Thanks, GA.

[Thread]

You live in Arizona, don't you? That's where your anti-Suns setiment comes from, right?

Right.

[MultiTroll]

Proud of you Cully holding off on send on that missed Timmy D layup
As you promised.


I came close to shitting the bed again, but I persevered.

Thanks, GA.
Good boy.
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[lefty]

called it tbh :tu
that eas such a gutsy call tbh

[Thread]

Good boy.
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I owe your Spurs a lot, Mult, thus you fellows in the course of our lives here. For me to take so much and give back nothing but shit ain't right. I knew that even when I was going against that principle. I've fallen off that wagon more than a few times I must confess, but never again. Ever. It's my religion.

[lefty]

:lol dafuq

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[DAF86]

Mi hermano Alfredo se lo merecía.

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[Thread]

Every player whines, but not even close to the extent Luka does. He literally has something to bitch about on every single play. Win or lose these finals, Luka's image took a hit with impartial fans. Just look at our good old friend Thread (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=19320) over here, rooting for the Mavs but still can't stomach Doncic's act.

I watch a lot of regular season ball, but I never realized Luka was this much of a cry baby. He needs to tone it down a level or two, tbh.

He's too Americanized now to "tone it down" no matter the level.