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ace3g
06-15-2024, 02:25 PM
San Antonio Spurs Vice President of Basketball Operations Brent Barry is not expected to return to San Antonio next season, league sources told HoopsHype.

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NickiRasgo
06-15-2024, 02:39 PM
TP coming?

timtonymanu
06-15-2024, 02:47 PM
*Did I wake up to 2008?*

(Opens thread - ohhh!)

Das Texan
06-15-2024, 03:29 PM
I was SO CONFUSED for a second.

KingKev
06-15-2024, 04:23 PM
At least we know it wasn’t Wemby this time as he doesn’t like American women.

scott
06-15-2024, 04:51 PM
Finally, rooting out the real problem in the Front Office

poopbox
06-15-2024, 07:49 PM
Soon as we get another French player Brent leaves :wow

Pauleta14
06-15-2024, 08:34 PM
Is Brent curently married?

DPG21920
06-15-2024, 08:54 PM
Theres probably going to be some overhaul/new coaches and FO people FWIW

Gandalf
06-15-2024, 09:27 PM
Theres probably going to be some overhaul/new coaches and FO people FWIW

I’m sorry to see Brent go, I like him. As for the coaches, I’d love some new ones. Wish we could get Chip back - and assuming we have a good replacement lined up, that Pop would retire.

rankingtear
06-15-2024, 09:38 PM
They want Tony to be more involved since they are trying to secure French market, I think. Brent news + Tony finally being seen in the facility. The Wemby thing was in his house, the Sochan story was in his house.

UNT Eagles 2016
06-16-2024, 12:07 AM
TP coming?

In his wife's uterus, yup

MultiTroll
06-16-2024, 12:16 AM
Theres probably going to be some overhaul/new coaches and FO people FWIW
Did Barry think the Sochan at pg was a stupid idea or something?

Voice that most of the Spurs players need to learn how to do a simple entry pass to wide open Wemby?

The Truth #6
06-16-2024, 12:37 AM
I thought Brent was mostly with the Austin team?

scott
06-16-2024, 01:47 AM
Is this even a real story? The link OP provided is to a mock draft and there is nothing on the Spurs rumors page on HoopsHype about this.

Robz4000
06-16-2024, 02:17 AM
Theres probably going to be some overhaul/new coaches and FO people FWIW

I'm about it tbh.

Dhbsr555
06-16-2024, 02:33 AM
Damnit tony

Bruno
06-16-2024, 05:35 AM
Brent Barry was the GM of the Austin Spurs, their head coach (Will Voigt) is also leaving the team. There will be some changes in Austin Spurs leadership this summer.

Regarding Spurs FO, something that struck me was that RC Buford traveled to France to see Risacher earlier this year. RC's big project was the new practice facility and now that it is done, he surely has more time to work on how to improve Spurs' team. Brian Wright is still the GM but I wouldn't be surprise if RC is playing a big role behind the scene. It's quite reassuring because having Wright, who is quite unproven, as the sole architect of the team, was risky.

Das Texan
06-16-2024, 07:54 AM
Brent Barry was the GM of the Austin Spurs, their head coach (Will Voigt) is also leaving the team. There will be some changes in Austin Spurs leadership this summer.

Regarding Spurs FO, something that struck me was that RC Buford traveled to France to see Risacher earlier this year. RC's big project was the new practice facility and now that it is done, he surely has more time to work on how to improve Spurs' team. Brian Wright is still the GM but I wouldn't be surprise if RC is playing a big role behind the scene. It's quite reassuring because having Wright, who is quite unproven, as the sole architect of the team, was risky.

If RC is largely making the calls on this draft class then I feel a hell of a lot more confident in the ability of making good picks than if he isnt.

exstatic
06-16-2024, 08:02 AM
If RC is largely making the calls on this draft class then I feel a hell of a lot more confident in the ability of making good picks than if he isnt.

Samanic was an RC pick. Just sayin…

jjspur
06-16-2024, 09:19 AM
Samanic was an RC pick. Just sayin…

RC must have been drunkerer than usual that evening.

onechance87
06-16-2024, 09:21 AM
Samanic was an RC pick. Just sayin…

who picked leonbard,white and murray...Those were greats picks

ace3g
06-16-2024, 09:32 AM
Is this even a real story? The link OP provided is to a mock draft and there is nothing on the Spurs rumors page on HoopsHype about this.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GQM6PDlWEAAEVee?format=png&name=small

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GQM6PArXIAE-JkK?format=png&name=900x900

Das Texan
06-16-2024, 09:49 AM
Samanic was an RC pick. Just sayin…

Cant hit on literally every prospect. I'd take his 90% ish track record over whatever low percentage Wright is at any day of the week. Samanic's inability to seem like he cared played such a large role in that anyway.

It was RC largely responsible for so many guys that have worked out.

Pauleta14
06-16-2024, 10:07 AM
They want Tony to be more involved since they are trying to secure French market, I think. Brent news + Tony finally being seen in the facility. The Wemby thing was in his house, the Sochan story was in his house.

I don't think so.

First TP is a busy guy in France and wouldn't be available then he isn't that type of guy, he cares about he own stuff.

Then the french market isn't THAT much attractive and is already secured anyway

Just a simple visit imo

DPG21920
06-16-2024, 11:01 AM
Brent Barry was the GM of the Austin Spurs, their head coach (Will Voigt) is also leaving the team. There will be some changes in Austin Spurs leadership this summer.

Regarding Spurs FO, something that struck me was that RC Buford traveled to France to see Risacher earlier this year. RC's big project was the new practice facility and now that it is done, he surely has more time to work on how to improve Spurs' team. Brian Wright is still the GM but I wouldn't be surprise if RC is playing a big role behind the scene. It's quite reassuring because having Wright, who is quite unproven, as the sole architect of the team, was risky.

Yup. And to some degree spurs were always run as a team (PATFO) so this is in line with how they do things overall and makes sense. There’s definitely room for coaching upgrades as well so I expect announcements there too

exstatic
06-16-2024, 01:22 PM
My point was that no one is perfect. Even the ST knobslobbed Sam Presti has his Ouseman Diengs, Cameron Paynes, and Josh Giddeys, all lottery picks.

Splits
06-16-2024, 01:48 PM
draft Sarr and Risacher, bring in Batum, hand the keys over to Collet and the rest of the FNT staff, change the team colors to blue, tbh

BackHome
06-16-2024, 06:59 PM
The biggest decision that will be impacting this franchise in the future is who is going to replace Pop? There is no one on the coaching staff I would even consider to keep when Pop leaves

stnick2261
06-16-2024, 08:16 PM
The biggest decision that will be impacting this franchise in the future is who is going to replace Pop? There is no one on the coaching staff I would even consider to keep when Pop leaves

I really wish we could entice the UCONN coach to take over.

Splits
06-16-2024, 08:26 PM
The biggest decision that will be impacting this franchise in the future is who is going to replace Pop? There is no one on the coaching staff I would even consider to keep when Pop leaves

Collet with the guarantee they don't draft that fuckstick Salaun

MultiTroll
06-16-2024, 08:29 PM
My point was that no one is perfect. Even the ST knobslobbed Sam Presti has his Ouseman Diengs, Cameron Paynes, and Josh Giddeys, all lottery picks.
Which means on the positive side there is going to be another GNob, Parker, Kwa Leonard, Greek Freak, Haliburton, Joker.

Would be sweet if the Spurs could score someone as such.

BatManu20
06-16-2024, 11:18 PM
Bummer. I like Brent and wanted him to be involved with the organization moving forward tbh. I know RC likes him a lot. Wonder why his dipping and if it has anything to do with Tony coming back around :lol

BatManu20
06-16-2024, 11:21 PM
The biggest decision that will be impacting this franchise in the future is who is going to replace Pop? There is no one on the coaching staff I would even consider to keep when Pop leaves

Still think it'll be Steve Kerr. He's under contract for 2 more years with GS, but their window has clearly closed. Think Pop hands over the reigns to his bff in 2026 and a new era of Spurs basketball begins. He'd definitely have RC and Co's blessing. I just hope Kerr somehow manages to bring Steph over with him tbh. Doubtful, but would be dope.

KingKev
06-17-2024, 05:15 AM
Still think it'll be Steve Kerr. He's under contract for 2 more years with GS, but their window has clearly closed. Think Pop hands over the reigns to his bff in 2026 and a new era of Spurs basketball begins. He'd definitely have RC and Co's blessing. I just hope Kerr somehow manages to bring Steph over with him tbh. Doubtful, but would be dope.

That would be pretty interesting but I see Kerr with the Warriors organization for life. He’ll get taken care of even post Steph era and doubt he wants to leave the Bay area for San Antonio. Wemby and the opportunity to coach another dynasty might appealing to him but we abetter start building a competitor quick.

Pauleta14
06-17-2024, 09:44 AM
Still think it'll be Steve Kerr. He's under contract for 2 more years with GS, but their window has clearly closed. Think Pop hands over the reigns to his bff in 2026 and a new era of Spurs basketball begins. He'd definitely have RC and Co's blessing. I just hope Kerr somehow manages to bring Steph over with him tbh. Doubtful, but would be dope.

Please no.

One of the most overrated of all time. Just a savvy media dude

exstatic
06-17-2024, 10:44 AM
Please no.

One of the most overrated of all time. Just a savvy media dude

Right. That savvy media dude took a team that was under achieving with 47 and 51 wins the previous seasons under the Jeebotard, and led them to 67 wins and a title in year one, because that’s what savvy media dudes do. Doc Rivers is a media savvy dude. Steve Kerr is a first ballot hall of fame coach.

He spotted Draymonds strengths when Mark Jackson didn’t have a fucking clue, unlocking the death lineup.

LeBowen
06-17-2024, 10:50 AM
Kerr's only issue are late game situations and adjustments.
Warriors lost way too many close games over the years and relied on ridiculous shot-making ability of their roster.
Idk how long he's got left due to his back issues, though.

As long as it's not Brett Brown, I'll be happy.

Wouldn't mind giving Becky a shot, she's easily better than most coaches in the NBA.

timtonymanu
06-17-2024, 11:40 AM
You guys are about to get TD21 started on Kerr again :lol.

I too think Kerr is a little overrated.

KingKev
06-17-2024, 02:49 PM
Kerr's only issue are late game situations and adjustments.
Warriors lost way too many close games over the years and relied on ridiculous shot-making ability of their roster.
Idk how long he's got left due to his back issues, though.

As long as it's not Brett Brown, I'll be happy.

Wouldn't mind giving Becky a shot, she's easily better than most coaches in the NBA.

He got some of that hard headedness from coach Pop lol

Pauleta14
06-17-2024, 04:20 PM
Right. That savvy media dude took a team that was under achieving with 47 and 51 wins the previous seasons under the Jeebotard, and led them to 67 wins and a title in year one, because that’s what savvy media dudes do. Doc Rivers is a media savvy dude. Steve Kerr is a first ballot hall of fame coach.

He spotted Draymonds strengths when Mark Jackson didn’t have a fucking clue, unlocking the death lineup.

Mark Jackson wasn't the best for sure but he went through all the growth stages

Kerr didn't get his job by merit, he was handed a complete team + 2 lottey picks to start his career. Hence the overrated.

Doesn't mean he awful, just that he never went to a building mode and he sucks at late game adjustemnt

Zaza saved his ass from an embarasement

KD made his job a joke

Amuseddaysleeper
06-17-2024, 06:08 PM
I’m sorry to see Brent go, I like him. As for the coaches, I’d love some new ones. Wish we could get Chip back - and assuming we have a good replacement lined up, that Pop would retire.

Would love to get bud back but that ship has sailed

Mugen
06-17-2024, 08:20 PM
Pretty lame tbh. I've always liked Bones when he was part of the org. Even did us a solid and signed back with us after being traded during the deadline.

I hope it's not because Porky is getting a bigger role within the org tbh.

RC_Drunkford
06-17-2024, 11:01 PM
Would love to get bud back but that ship has sailed

He‘ll get fired by the end of next season. The Suns won‘t win shit and blame it on the coach

Amuseddaysleeper
06-18-2024, 12:04 AM
He‘ll get fired by the end of next season. The Suns won‘t win shit and blame it on the coach

Yeah, Beal :lmao wtf was that FO thinking oof!

objective
06-20-2024, 06:03 AM
Is Steve Kerr overrated? I don't know, but somehow Luke Walton went 39-4 while Kerr was out for health reasons. He failed in 2 years as a full time head coach, was recently assistant in Cleveland and I haven't heard him mentioned as a candidate anywhere else

Pauleta14
06-20-2024, 08:32 AM
Is Steve Kerr overrated? I don't know, but somehow Luke Walton went 39-4 while Kerr was out for health reasons. He failed in 2 years as a full time head coach, was recently assistant in Cleveland and I haven't heard him mentioned as a candidate anywhere else

Walton isn't a coach, at best an assistant but he's only been put in charge not to bother ppl. either players or FO.
.
He's never going to do anything great but he'll never cause issues in the lockeroom or in the medias, he's a corporate guy.

Lot's of networking in the NBA, where like many other professions merit isn't the main criteria to get a position.

Kerr is media and politically savvy (from his dad I guess), he got the job/gift but it could be Nash or Fisher, who also didn't get their jobs based on merit around the same time.

No hate, good for him but please not as an option to replace Pop.

The Truth #6
06-20-2024, 08:53 AM
I would say that Steve Kerr, like Bud, when they came to Golden State or in Bud's case when he first went to atlanta, they were able to make immediate changes that improved the outlook of the team.

I think after a certain point teams gain their own momentum and coach themselves and so coaches can't get all the credit, but I think they're are specific moments where you can see a coach come in and immediately change the situation and it's hard not to at least acknowledge that.

scott
06-20-2024, 10:32 AM
By saying these ex-players didn't get their jobs by merit, it discounts the value that an ex-player brings to the table simply by virtue of being an ex-player. It's not like the used their rich daddy to get the job, or blackmailed the owner or some shit.

If you want to say Steve Kerr didn't get his job by merit, you also have to say Brent Barry and Manu Ginobili didn't get theirs by merit either (which I won't say about any of those dudes). You essentially are saying that no former players earned their jobs by merit... their playing careers, and how they carried themselves throughout it, is their merit.

Pauleta14
06-20-2024, 04:35 PM
By saying these ex-players didn't get their jobs by merit, it discounts the value that an ex-player brings to the table simply by virtue of being an ex-player. It's not like the used their rich daddy to get the job, or blackmailed the owner or some shit.

If you want to say Steve Kerr didn't get his job by merit, you also have to say Brent Barry and Manu Ginobili didn't get theirs by merit either (which I won't say about any of those dudes). You essentially are saying that no former players earned their jobs by merit... their playing careers, and how they carried themselves throughout it, is their merit.

Being an ex player isn't one of the main criterias for a coach and I'm not saying Kerr is incompetent. He's just massively overrated and basically learned his job on the fly.

I'd say the same for Reddick going from podcaster to coach of the Lakers lmao (I know there are many factors for this job other than pure coaching abilities, no elite coach want this poisonous job and JJ is the perfect muppet for Lebron and the FO) But still...

As for Brent Barry, I have no idea what were technically his tasks (other than the title) nor his qualifications (was he an assistant for a while for ex?)

Same for Manu, no idea what his job is nor what's really your point with him tbh

Lastly we can agree to disagree and I like exchanging with diff pov, but pls don't look for the worst possible interpretation ... :lol I never meant to say being a former player was even a factor. It can be but it's not systematic and because of that shouldn't be used (imo) as a criteria.
I think the basic requirement to become a head coach is to have spent a minimum of time either as a coach in below categories (or youth) or as an assistant coach at the level you seek.

Not having either of those experiences prior to taking the head coaching job of an NBA team is mind boggling to me.

But that's just me...

scott
06-20-2024, 05:24 PM
Being an ex player isn't one of the main criterias for a coach and I'm not saying Kerr is incompetent. He's just massively overrated and basically learned his job on the fly.

I'd say the same for Reddick going from podcaster to coach of the Lakers lmao (I know there are many factors for this job other than pure coaching abilities, no elite coach want this poisonous job and JJ is the perfect muppet for Lebron and the FO) But still...

As for Brent Barry, I have no idea what were technically his tasks (other than the title) nor his qualifications (was he an assistant for a while for ex?)

Same for Manu, no idea what his job is nor what's really your point with him tbh

Lastly we can agree to disagree and I like exchanging with diff pov, but pls don't look for the worst possible interpretation ... :lol I never meant to say being a former player was even a factor. It can be but it's not systematic and because of that shouldn't be used (imo) as a criteria.
I think the basic requirement to become a head coach is to have spent a minimum of time either as a coach in below categories (or youth) or as an assistant coach at the level you seek.

Not having either of those experiences prior to taking the head coaching job of an NBA team is mind boggling to me.

But that's just me...

I've seen some people commenting that JJ is "Podcaster turned HC" or "ESPN Commentater turned HC" but being a Podcaster or an ESPN commentator isn't what gives him any credibility to be a head coach, it's his 15 seasons as an NBA player that did. I think you see a common trait among guys who go from ex-player directly to HC (Kerr, Nash, Kidd, Mark Jackson, Derrick Fisher, Doc Rivers, now JJ Reddick) - they all had LONG NBA careers. I imagine all of them had some degree of informal "coach in training" experience while playing, and their former coaches to vouch for them in this regard.

All I'm saying, is there is a lot of different paths to various roles - and I think it's rather harsh to say guys like the ones I mentioned didn't earn their positions via merit. The resumes as players (and the experience with the coaches towards the tail end of their career) is their qualification. In that regard, even though Manu has never been a coach, I 100% would love for him to be Pop's successor.

Pauleta14
06-20-2024, 08:50 PM
I've seen some people commenting that JJ is "Podcaster turned HC" or "ESPN Commentater turned HC" but being a Podcaster or an ESPN commentator isn't what gives him any credibility to be a head coach, it's his 15 seasons as an NBA player that did. I think you see a common trait among guys who go from ex-player directly to HC (Kerr, Nash, Kidd, Mark Jackson, Derrick Fisher, Doc Rivers, now JJ Reddick) - they all had LONG NBA careers. I imagine all of them had some degree of informal "coach in training" experience while playing, and their former coaches to vouch for them in this regard.

All I'm saying, is there is a lot of different paths to various roles - and I think it's rather harsh to say guys like the ones I mentioned didn't earn their positions via merit. The resumes as players (and the experience with the coaches towards the tail end of their career) is their qualification. In that regard, even though Manu has never been a coach, I 100% would love for him to be Pop's successor.

I gave you an out with the word "podcaster" :lol

More seriously, I know he's more than that but a high BBIQ player doesn't necessarily translate into a geat or even just good coach. It's a lot more than the Xs and Os

Look at Nash, Fisher or many others...

You have to learn a lot about psychology, communication (intenal and extenal), short and long term views, patience etc to be a head coach

It's no surprise all the greatest went through all the stages I mentioned before EARNING the head position.

Now we give the toughest positions to rookies... What do we know about JJ man-management or charisma in the lockeroom, necessary to handle so many egos all season long?

Kerr got eaten alive by a self managed lockeroom. Draymond has zero respect for him, it's obvious. Sometimes a cheat code (curry) car hide many flaws.

There ae alwasy exceptions to the rules and we'll see what JJ becomes for ex, but to me, the same way players have to respect certain steps to become elite, coaches have to take the time to learn the job through trials and failure.

ambchang
06-20-2024, 08:57 PM
Coaches are absolutely useless but the spurs have to sign some over the hill veterans to show them the way. This board just never cease to amaze me.

SpursBills
06-20-2024, 09:30 PM
Get David Adelman - young, dad was the architect behind sacramento's early 2000s offense with 2 great passing bigs, now is the chief architect of the nuggets' current offense; bring him in and let him go to work on the Wemby-centric motion offense

scott
06-20-2024, 10:42 PM
I gave you an out with the word "podcaster" :lol

More seriously, I know he's more than that but a high BBIQ player doesn't necessarily translate into a geat or even just good coach. It's a lot more than the Xs and Os

Look at Nash, Fisher or many others...

You have to learn a lot about psychology, communication (intenal and extenal), short and long term views, patience etc to be a head coach

It's no surprise all the greatest went through all the stages I mentioned before EARNING the head position.

Now we give the toughest positions to rookies... What do we know about JJ man-management or charisma in the lockeroom, necessary to handle so many egos all season long?

Kerr got eaten alive by a self managed lockeroom. Draymond has zero respect for him, it's obvious. Sometimes a cheat code (curry) car hide many flaws.

There ae alwasy exceptions to the rules and we'll see what JJ becomes for ex, but to me, the same way players have to respect certain steps to become elite, coaches have to take the time to learn the job through trials and failure.

I never said anything about the quality of any coach. Know who else turns out to be bad coaches? Experienced coaches! Someone of them get rehired over and over too, even after they’ve proven they suck!

LakerHater
06-20-2024, 10:44 PM
Can wright go too?

Pauleta14
06-21-2024, 08:40 AM
I never said anything about the quality of any coach. Know who else turns out to be bad coaches? Experienced coaches! Someone of them get rehired over and over too, even after they’ve proven they suck!

I agree but it's not because they're experienced that they're re-hired despite bad results, it's just one correlation among many. The cause has more to do with networking culture, politics and risks evaluations.

Look, my point was only to say that being a former pro isn't a strong enough criteria to be hired. As for the expeience, I agree it's not enough by itself BUT it's a minimum requirement for a pressure job.

Find me just one example in history of any sports of a manager who was given the keys of a top team wihout any experience like Kerr or Reddick.

There aren't

TimmehC
06-21-2024, 08:55 AM
Kerr was at least a front office guy before he was a coach. And he also played for two of the GOAT coaches. So itnwas at least somewhat defensible. Reddick tho...

scott
06-21-2024, 10:19 AM
I agree but it's not because they're experienced that they're re-hired despite bad results, it's just one correlation among many. The cause has more to do with networking culture, politics and risks evaluations.

Look, my point was only to say that being a former pro isn't a strong enough criteria to be hired. As for the expeience, I agree it's not enough by itself BUT it's a minimum requirement for a pressure job.

Find me just one example in history of any sports of a manager who was given the keys of a top team wihout any experience like Kerr or Reddick.

There aren't

I provided a list of NBA coaches who were hired without any experience above (Kerr, Nash, Kidd, Jackson, Fisher, Rivers, Reddick). The list list is even long, and includes folks like Magic, Bird, Isaiah Thomas. https://www.latimes.com/sports/lakers/story/2024-06-20/how-first-time-nba-coaches-fared-no-experience#:~:text=Dallas'%20Jason%20Kidd%2C%20lef t%2C,coach%20with%20no%20previous%20experience.

Bill Russell is not on this list… I’m not sure how he would be counted, since he started as Player/Coach for 3 years. But he was the head coach?

In Futbol, Xavi was hired as the manager of Al Saad without any experience.

In the NFL, the Colts hired Jeff Saturday as Interim Head Coach without any experience.

Whether or not you think hiring a coach with no experience is a different debate… but it definitely happens. And the resume as a player is what gives them merit.

You’re free to disagree, but my opinion is that devalues their experience as players. I’m still game for Manu to coach the Spurs and I don’t care if he goes and acts as assistant first.

Joseph Kony
06-21-2024, 10:24 AM
so are there any legs to this or what? havent seen it reported anywhere else

exstatic
06-21-2024, 10:38 AM
I never said anything about the quality of any coach. Know who else turns out to be bad coaches? Experienced coaches! Someone of them get rehired over and over too, even after they’ve proven they suck!

Doc Rivers has entered the chat…

Pauleta14
06-21-2024, 12:55 PM
I provided a list of NBA coaches who were hired without any experience above (Kerr, Nash, Kidd, Jackson, Fisher, Rivers, Reddick). The list list is even long, and includes folks like Magic, Bird, Isaiah Thomas. https://www.latimes.com/sports/lakers/story/2024-06-20/how-first-time-nba-coaches-fared-no-experience#:~:text=Dallas'%20Jason%20Kidd%2C%20lef t%2C,coach%20with%20no%20previous%20experience.

Bill Russell is not on this list… I’m not sure how he would be counted, since he started as Player/Coach for 3 years. But he was the head coach?

In Futbol, Xavi was hired as the manager of Al Saad without any experience.

In the NFL, the Colts hired Jeff Saturday as Interim Head Coach without any experience.

Whether or not you think hiring a coach with no experience is a different debate… but it definitely happens. And the resume as a player is what gives them merit.

You’re free to disagree, but my opinion is that devalues their experience as players. I’m still game for Manu to coach the Spurs and I don’t care if he goes and acts as assistant first.

I wrongly assumed you understood I was refering to successfull coaches. None are in your list and i said other than "Kerr and Reddick"

And lmao at Xavi. the guy is the perfect example of a great player known for his BBIQ but who sucks at coaching. Thierry Henry would be another example.

Coaching isn't about Xs and Os mainly, I listed already a few of the qualifications that you acquire by experience only. When shit happens (it alwasy does) a coach that's been there done that, even as an assistant, will have his players's ears more easily than JJ Reddick don't you think?

If you need to find an example of an interim coach in NFL, you're basically making my point. It's just an exception that confirms the rule and I said that there could of course be exceptions by definition.

Anyway, we'll see what happen but I think it's also a sign that the Lakers job isn't attractive for Reddick's case

I'm 100% game for Manu too, who would qualify as an exception anyway and would benefit from a lot of support. Different case but it wouldn't hurt if he did a season or 2 as an assistant before taking the head job, would it?

scott
06-21-2024, 01:06 PM
I wrongly assumed you understood I was refering to successfull coaches. None are in your list and i said other than "Kerr and Reddick"

And lmao at Xavi. the guy is the perfect example of a great player known for his BBIQ but who sucks at coaching. Thierry Henry would be another example.

Coaching isn't about Xs and Os mainly, I listed already a few of the qualifications that you acquire by experience only. When shit happens (it alwasy does) a coach that's been there done that, even as an assistant, will have his players's ears more easily than JJ Reddick don't you think?

If you need to find an example of an interim coach in NFL, you're basically making my point. It's just an exception that confirms the rule and I said that there could of course be exceptions by definition.

Anyway, we'll see what happen but I think it's also a sign that the Lakers job isn't attractive for Reddick's case

I'm 100% game for Manu too, who would qualify as an exception anyway and would benefit from a lot of support. Different case but it wouldn't hurt if he did a season or 2 as an assistant before taking the head job, would it?

I’m not even sure what you’re trying to argue with me about at this point. If you are ever a GM… don’t hire an inexperienced coach if you don’t want. I’m merely saying that these kind of coaches are not “without merit” who somehow used political connections and media savvy to get their jobs. They got their jobs because of their resumes as players. Whether or not that is a wise decision is another matter, and irrelevant to the point I was making.

Good day.

Pauleta14
06-21-2024, 02:08 PM
I’m not even sure what you’re trying to argue with me about at this point. If you are ever a GM… don’t hire an inexperienced coach if you don’t want. I’m merely saying that these kind of coaches are not “without merit” who somehow used political connections and media savvy to get their jobs. They got their jobs because of their resumes as players. Whether or not that is a wise decision is another matter, and irrelevant to the point I was making.

Good day.

Nice one :lol I'm the one being patient with you

Let's just disagree

BatManu20
07-23-2024, 10:46 AM
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Ice009
07-23-2024, 11:11 AM
WTF Couldn't the Spurs have gotten him as an assistant coach?

I forgot the Suns hired Bud, so that explains why he's going there. Having said that, if he has coaching aspirations, couldn't the Spurs have given him an assistant coaches role, or did Bud maybe convince him to join his staff?

Dverde
07-23-2024, 12:05 PM
I always thought his annoying brother would be a head coach one day.

exstatic
07-23-2024, 01:12 PM
WTF Couldn't the Spurs have gotten him as an assistant coach?

I forgot the Suns hired Bud, so that explains why he's going there. Having said that, if he has coaching aspirations, couldn't the Spurs have given him an assistant coaches role, or did Bud maybe convince him to join his staff?

Sometimes,people just want things different from what we want out of them. I’d also wonder if it would be uncomfortable for him being on the coaching staff when Tony makes one of his frequent trips into town. If you’re on the coaching staff, you can’t really avoid him like you could as a FO employee.

scott
07-23-2024, 02:09 PM
Good for Brent. No shame to have members of the Spurs family move on to continue to grow with other teams. Hope he crushes it and becomes the next great NBA head coach.

Roscoe P. Coltrane
07-23-2024, 08:13 PM
NBA coaching is the least impactful front office position in all of sports.

The Truth #6
07-23-2024, 11:57 PM
So was he fired first then scrambled to get a job in PHX?

exstatic
07-24-2024, 05:19 AM
So was he fired first then scrambled to get a job in PHX?

Doubtful. His contract was likely just up, like Chip two years ago.

John B
07-24-2024, 07:22 AM
Yet another branch of Spurs tree going to another team. I fear what Spurs culture will bring to a star-studded Suns, especially with 2x COTY Coach Bud leading the way.

Spurs Brazil
07-24-2024, 06:27 PM
https://twitter.com/Barryathree/status/1815934116191428717

ambchang
07-24-2024, 09:07 PM
Spurs front office personnel are the worst until they leave and join another team, then they are the best ever.

twodeep
07-24-2024, 11:52 PM
Spurs front office personnel are the worst until they leave and join another team, then they are the best ever.

I always hated losing Presti

Ice009
07-25-2024, 09:17 AM
https://twitter.com/Barryathree/status/1815934116191428717

Is he referring to his kids? How many does he have? Curious if any play Bball?


I always hated losing Presti

Yep, at the time, I knew a little bit about him and heard lots of great things about him and hated that he left. I wonder if he would have stayed if RC stepped aside (I guess back then, though, it was too early for RC to step down and hand the reigns over to someone else).

spursistan
04-14-2025, 01:45 PM
Bump.

Sometimes even smart people make terrible professional decisions. Imagine making the jump from the VP of Basketball operations of the just beginning Wemby Era Spurs to be an assistant coach for the dumpster fire that is Matt Ishbia's Suns only to get fired less than a year later. I mean Brent Barry could've found a way to the Spurs bench if he wanted to start a coaching career.. Now he is likely gonna get cycled through teams with minimal exposure and a lot less the credit he could have gotten riding on the Wembanyama gravy train..

exstatic
04-14-2025, 02:00 PM
Bump.

Sometimes even smart people make terrible professional decisions. Imagine making the jump from the VP of Basketball operations of the just beginning Wemby Era Spurs to be an assistant coach for the dumpster fire that is Matt Ishbia's Suns only to get fired less than a year later. I mean Brent Barry could've found a way to the Spurs bench if he wanted to start a coaching career.. Now he is likely gonna get cycled through teams with minimal exposure and a lot less the credit he could have gotten riding on the Wembanyama gravy train..

My thought is that if he had stayed as a coach, he would have gotten more exposure to TP when he was in town than he would as a FO guy. He probably felt the need to move on to start his coaching career.