2024 Summer League News

[lefty20]

Gonna be shocked if Hornets keep rolling out Miller. He shouldn't have been playing to begin with.

[heyheymymy]

I'm digging that Miller/NSJ combo. Agree, not sure why Miller is back in SL.

[ace3g]

https://x.com/NBATV/status/1812256327688736936

[Mugen]

Saluan <3

[ambchang]

Amen/Sheppard/Jabari/Sengun is a very solid core + they have a good amount of future draft picks from other teams that could land them a star (whether by trade or the draft itself). I get what you’re saying but not sure I’d describe them as being in some terrible spot; they have a more promising outlook than 2/3 of the league. That being said they’re still the Rockets so we just have to bank on them doing Rockets things :lol

I would trade sengun for some firsts the second I have the chance. He doesn’t really fit into their style. Aim to use those picks to find their franchise player or trade for one.

[RC_Drunkford]

All we need is the Rockets to trade all their Suns picks for 37-year old KD, thinking they can win a chip that way. That would fuck their franchise for the foreseeable future.

[exstatic]

My favorite storyline is the 60th pick in the 2013 draft fighting for an NBA roster spot on Orlando’s SL squad, 32 YO Janis Timma from Latvia.

[RC_Drunkford]

My favorite storyline is the 60th pick in the 2013 draft fighting for an NBA roster spot on Orlando’s SL squad, 32 YO Janis Timma from Latvia.

Never give up on your dreams :lol

[DPG21920]

Cody Williams looked much better today. Saw that potential that made him a very intriguing prospect.

[onechance87]

Cody Williams looked much better today. Saw that potential that made him a very intriguing prospect.

yup....knocking down 3s and taking it to the rim.Hopefully we didnt make a mistake passing on him.

[ace3g]

https://x.com/NBA/status/1812508326338429310

[Mugen]

Reed is must see TV so far tbh :lol

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTFtMhiSmOk

[ace3g]

Reed can airball 3s as well.

[CGD]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTFtMhiSmOk

Awesome

[ace3g]

While reviewing to determine who the ball last touched, it was determined a foul occurred; Rockets player charged with foul as well as call stands for Washington ball. New rule in effect this year.



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[SpursFan86]

Sheppard dominating…hate that this guy landed in Houston :bang

[alfahdlan]

:bang

[Mugen]

At least Sheppard didn't up in Atlanta tbh but he's gonna be an absolute problem in Houston

[Mr. Body]

Sarr can't rebound at all or contest shots in the post. He looks like a project.

[Dejounte]

Sheppard is gonna score 50 on the Spurs someday tbh

[spurraider21]

insert meme of wolverine longingly looking at a photo of reed sheppard

[lefty20]

Sheppard is gonna score 50 on the Spurs someday tbh

With 10 lob assists to Whitmore & 5 steals. It is known.

[Mugen]

Reed x Wemby PnR, what could have been :lol

[spurraider21]

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[onechance87]

yup rockets got a special one in reed.

[LeBowen]

Lmao, I'll wait until I see Sheppard defend star guards before I hype him up.
Castle made more 3pt shots last night, btw.

[SpursFan86]

Castle out the remainder of SL per Tom Orsborn :bang

[Mugen]

I've seen enough.....Reed & Castle >>>> Risacher & Sarr tbh

[SpursFan86]

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:depressed

[Russ]

Sarr can't rebound at all or contest shots in the post. He looks like a project.

Sarr looks way worse than I imagined.

[Mugen]

Castle out the remainder of SL per Tom Orsborn :bang

Welp frees up my time for the rest of the week at least.

[spurraider21]

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[spurraider21]

Sarr can't rebound at all or contest shots in the post. He looks like a project.
i like sarr a lot as a prospect, but yeah, he's not "pro ready"

its why i wanted atlanta to take him. would make them a worse team for this year as opposed to a plug-and-play type like Risacher

its also why i thought sarr to wizards made so much sense. theyre not trying to do anything this year anyway. let him fuck around and get his sea legs under him. same with bub

[Seventyniner]

I don't get all the hand wringing over Sheppard. He was off the board when the Spurs were on the clock at #4. The Spurs never had a chance at him.

[spurraider21]

I don't get all the hand wringing over Sheppard. He was off the board when the Spurs were on the clock at #4. The Spurs never had a chance at him.
i know. there was just a lot of hopium that he or risacher may fall if the Clingan top-3 stuff actually played out

[Mr. Body]

I don't expect Castle to play next summer, so his Summer League career is now over.

[BackHome]

Surprised no one is talking about Dilly?

[PhantomDashCam]

https://youtu.be/nUUuowD-a_U?si=mfD0VbiVX3n7ubxm

Had some nice moments in this one. That dunk at 1:27 mark...Damn...

[r0drig0lac]

https://youtu.be/nUUuowD-a_U?si=mfD0VbiVX3n7ubxm

Had some nice moments in this one. That dunk at 1:27 mark...Damn...

this kid...

[4lifecowboy]

this kid...

We should have taken the chance with the 8th pick

[onechance87]

https://youtu.be/nUUuowD-a_U?si=mfD0VbiVX3n7ubxm

Had some nice moments in this one. That dunk at 1:27 mark...Damn...

hope this guy and cody williams dnt come back and bite us for passing on them.

[4lifecowboy]

hope this guy and cody williams dnt come back and bite us for passing on them.

I would be upset if we trade multiple first rounders for Markannen when we could have had that skill set with this kid. Samanic made them gun shy i guess.

[exstatic]

I would be upset if we trade multiple first rounders for Markannen when we could have had that skill set with this kid. Samanic made them gun shy i guess.

Markannen is a finished product. You pay for that. This kid may never be anything, and I’d say the chances are high, since he was Ignite and they teach nothing, wasting a year of possible development. He is also smaller by 3 inches, and can’t shoot.

[4lifecowboy]

Markannen is a finished product. You pay for that. This kid may never be anything, and I’d say the chances are high, since he was Ignite and they teach nothing, wasting a year of possible development. He is also smaller by 3 inches, and can’t shoot.
We had the youngest roster in the NBA last year, most of our roster is in the development stage. He looks pretty fluid offensively on all three levels to me.

[exstatic]

We had the youngest roster in the NBA last year, most of our roster is in the development stage. He looks pretty fluid offensively on all three levels to me.

Which is exactly why we don’t need another development project. We have 5 certain FRPs over the next 3 drafts, and possibly as many as 7. We don’t need another development project.

He’s not a good 3 point shooter, so he’s not a 3 level scorer, as you said.

[Manu&Duncan fan]

Lmao, I'll wait until I see Sheppard defend star guards before I hype him up.
Castle made more 3pt shots last night, btw.

Same here.

[heyheymymy]

Just how big is this list of doom regrets for SA after the 2024 draft?

Dilly
Buz
Carter
Furphy

Are all careers we will watch nervously for sure, who else? lol

[heyheymymy]

Oh you can add Edey I guess

[ace3g]

https://x.com/ClutchPoints/status/1812938763867463747

[Mugen]

Damn. Nice game from Buzelis. Might end up proving me wrong, will get a lot of run this upcoming Bulls tank season tbh.

[spurraider21]

if he's nailing 3's like that, it can really open up so much more of his game, because he does have a nice handle and solid iso skills along with it. i liked him as somebody worth taking #8, but i didnt want him alongside a non shooter like Castle. if we had grabbed risacher/sheppard/dillingham at 4, buzelis was one of the guys i was cool with at 8

[K...]

i thought booz was the mystery pick 8 that the spurs were ready to hand in.

[DPG21920]

Man, Im really liking what Ive seen from Cody Williams. I think hes got a chance to be damn solid.

[TVI]

Sheppard is gonna score 50 on the Spurs someday tbh
Sheppard has a nice stroke, a good BBIQ, and a deceptively good vertical, but he’s going to have to improve the speed of his release to get his shot off against better defenders. I think the Mark Price comparisons are pretty spot on.

[ace3g]

https://x.com/NBA/status/1813345170458378708

[ace3g]

https://x.com/BullsNationBR_/status/1813349185170841896

https://x.com/BullsNationBR_/status/1813348648060915714

[Obstructed_View]

Watching McCain vs Dillingham. What a shitshow with the refs. But Pop would never have drafted Dilly.

[alfahdlan]

High usage 1-7

[alfahdlan]

Maybe he was benefited by the attention to other UK players by opposing teams.

[Mr. Body]

They were posting McCain up on Dillingham, which is a little crazy.

One thing that pops, or doesn't, about Dillingham in this setting is his lack of speed. He's quick, but not exactly fast.

[Obstructed_View]

They were posting McCain up on Dillingham, which is a little crazy.

One thing that pops, or doesn't, about Dillingham in this setting is his lack of speed. He's quick, but not exactly fast.
He made some nifty passes, and he's both a willing passer and a tenacious defender. He's got too much Jack in him. Pop wouldn't draft that IMO.

[onechance87]

carrinngton might be roy and end up being a better player then sarr.

[Obstructed_View]

carrinngton might be roy and end up being a better player then sarr.
That would be hilarious.

[Obstructed_View]

God damn Joe Wieskamp sucks.

[spurraider21]

:lol sarr

[SpursFan86]

:lol sarr

Holy shit. 0-13 from the field…0-2 from the FT line is the cherry on top :lmao

[Obstructed_View]

Dillingham has stepped out of bounds in the corner like five times.

[Seventyniner]

Too bad the Hawks didn't take Sarr.

[onechance87]

clingan defence is elite

[Mr. Body]

I'm less concerned about Sarr's shooting. The team will work on getting his spots. It's more that he's slight and shorter than you'd want and not a supreme shotblocking threat or great rebounder. I think he'll be fine, and am glad the Wiz picked up Valunciunas, but he might pale compared to Clingan or Edey for a while.

[Mr. Body]

And then I see Sarr shot 0-15. Woah.

[spurraider21]

man, Prosper has REALLY been struggling for the Mavs this summer league. not as bad as Dariq Whitehead, but yeesh, two guys i liked decently at their respective draft positions

[spurraider21]

And then I see Sarr shot 0-15. Woah.
cover your eyes

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[Mugen]

F'n sucks that Atlanta didn't pick Sarr :lol

[exstatic]

I'm less concerned about Sarr's shooting. The team will work on getting his spots. It's more that he's slight and shorter than you'd want and not a supreme shotblocking threat or great rebounder. I think he'll be fine, and am glad the Wiz picked up Valunciunas, but he might pale compared to Clingan or Edey for a while.

He wants to be a jumbo wing, but doesn’t have the skillset. He has the skillset of a rim runner/shot blocker, but shuns that.

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riAtHUL1dLE

[scott]

Spurs gonna fuck around and win the summer league without a single roster player

[ace3g]

Top 4 teams make the SL semifinals.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSxHqzxWIAA19MQ?format=jpg&name=large

[pad300]

That point differential suggests that this could be a bit of a mirage...
Also, can someone explain to me why we are in 4th, rather than the Heat, who are also 3-0 and have a better point differential? (In fact, why aren't Miami first overall, having a 3-0 record and the best point differential?)

[ace3g]

That point differential suggests that this could be a bit of a mirage...
Also, can someone explain to me why we are in 4th, rather than the Heat, who are also 3-0 and have a better point differential? (In fact, why aren't Miami first overall, having a 3-0 record and the best point differential?)

This was just a quick screenshot from ESPN, not sure how the overall standings work for SL.

[Truckules]

The summer league has a points system based on quarters won which is used for tiebreaking purposes, I believe. You get 1 point for each quarter you win, 0.5 if tied, and nothing if lost.

[K...]

the point differential points to the coach being really good at game management. also our team is winning with defense the shooting is barely adequate.

[rjv]

summer league title means squat. it's a war of attrition with most teams shutting down their keepers before they even get to the 3rd or 4th game. it comes down to a rec league tourney by the end.

[Mugen]

y'all still watching SL tbh? :lol

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cagOAmKQ13o

[ace3g]

C9kmauexsN0

[spurraider21]

Top 4 teams make the SL semifinals.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSxHqzxWIAA19MQ?format=jpg&name=large
Memphis just won today as well, so they are 4-0

Clippers play tonight

Spurs/Warriors/Heat play tomorrow

[ace3g]

Too bad we didn't get Spurs vs Cavs so we could get the battle of the hairlines.

Cavs - Darius Brown

https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/cachevalleydaily.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/0/37/037897eb-6678-51f8-b592-51b3a5bee82b/65d9078ed0472.image.jpg

vs

Spurs - Bouyea

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GI1AOx3bYAAVmh5?format=jpg&name=large

[Obstructed_View]

summer league title means squat. it's a war of attrition with most teams shutting down their keepers before they even get to the 3rd or 4th game. it comes down to a rec league tourney by the end.
And will wind up with half of Spurstalk wanting Speedy Claxton's dad as point guard for the Spurs.

[Mr. Body]

Anointing Reed Sheppard the best player in his class may have been premature.

[taps]

summer league title means squat. it's a war of attrition with most teams shutting down their keepers before they even get to the 3rd or 4th game. it comes down to a rec league tourney by the end.


Yeah but I want this ring.


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[djohn2oo8]

Anointing Reed Sheppard the best player in his class may have been premature.
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lol he’s fine.

[Raven]

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lol he’s fine.

if you know anything about summerleague games, you know it matters how you start, not how you finish.

[Obstructed_View]

Anointing Reed Sheppard the best player in his class may have been premature.
This aged well.

[Mr. Body]

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lol he’s fine.

Did you watch the game? I'm guessing you didn't. Every problem was on display. Couldn't get past his man; Dix had him completely jammed up, wasn't athletic or skilled enough with the handles and was very much controlled, lots of turnovers, not able to even get his shot off. On defense, could not stay in front of players. Most of his production was late when Minnesota relaxed their D.

The good things were still in evidence. He doesn't pout, keeps playing. Still makes great individual plays with his hands and is disruptive. Really nice connective passer.

I get it -- you didn't watch and are just scanning box scores. If you did watch, you have no idea what you're seeing. Everything said about him before is still true. He's not a point of attack player, he's not a defensive stopper. He's a supreme role player, which is what can really work for Houston. He's going to have games where he breaks out because of the gravity other players get (Cam Whitmore, in previous games), and he's going to put up stats because he's a smart, good player, but he's very much not likely a star in the making.

[LeBowen]

Did you watch the game? I'm guessing you didn't. Every problem was on display. Couldn't get past his man; Dix had him completely jammed up, wasn't athletic or skilled enough with the handles and was very much controlled, lots of turnovers, not able to even get his shot off. On defense, could not stay in front of players. Most of his production was late when Minnesota relaxed their D.

The good things were still in evidence. He doesn't pout, keeps playing. Still makes great individual plays with his hands and is disruptive. Really nice connective passer.

I get it -- you didn't watch and are just scanning box scores. If you did watch, you have no idea what you're seeing. Everything said about him before is still true. He's not a point of attack player, he's not a defensive stopper. He's a supreme role player, which is what can really work for Houston. He's going to have games where he breaks out because of the gravity other players get (Cam Whitmore, in previous games), and he's going to put up stats because he's a smart, good player, but he's very much not likely a star in the making.

I have more or less the same opinion on Sheppard.

He would've been good for us because we desperately lack elite shooters, but idk about his long-term fit.
If we assume Devin will be the starting SG for the foreseeable future, we'd really lack ball security and playmaking with Sheppard.
On defense, neither him nor Devin would be good enough to be POA defenders, but you wouldn't want to crossmatch them on wings.

I just don't see guards shorter than 6'5-6'6 worth it if they're not projected to be great in two out of three important aspects. Playmaking, Shooting, Defense.
With his size, Sheppard just can't be a great defender and if he doesn't become an all-time great shooter, he's not going to be anything more than a solid starter.
High floor, low ceiling if he's not the next Steph.

[Mr. Body]

I have more or less the same opinion on Sheppard.

He would've been good for us because we desperately lack elite shooters, but idk about his long-term fit.
If we assume Devin will be the starting SG for the foreseeable future, we'd really lack ball security and playmaking with Sheppard.
On defense, neither him nor Devin would be good enough to be POA defenders, but you wouldn't want to crossmatch them on wings.

I just don't see guards shorter than 6'5-6'6 worth it if they're not projected to be great in two out of three important aspects. Playmaking, Shooting, Defense.
With his size, Sheppard just can't be a great defender and if he doesn't become an all-time great shooter, he's not going to be anything more than a solid starter.
High floor, low ceiling if he's not the next Steph.

I think Sheppard would be excellent for us... if we already had Castle.

I just feel like Castle is going to be much more impactful as an attacking guard, plus his POA defense projects to be at least very good. I don't want to say he's the opposite of Sheppard in those ways. I think Sheppard might be a better passer, but that Castle can break free and do a lot of damage getting into defenses where Sheppard may struggle. Obviously Sheppard is a much better shooting threat, just that Castle's size and attack will be a potential menace. He could develop into a primary. And then on defense, Sheppard is very disruptive and comes up with steals and wins possessions, but Castle may blanket guys.

Maybe I'm too optimistic, but this short glimpse in SL has confirmed the UConn stuff that Castle's combination of size, skills, and smarts are going to be very effective. Dude is just super-strong and big at the position and already uses that stuff well. If he starts clicking in a couple years, I don't think opposing teams will want to deal with him at all, especially while having to deal with Victor.

[ambchang]

1814168286487302389

lol he’s fine.

Technically he didn’t finish 9-12 after an 0-5 start. That’s impossible. I think he meant shot 9-12 after starting 0-5. He finished 9-17.

That said i still like Shepard a lot.

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fc50pX3utzE

[Obstructed_View]

Keaton Wallace from UTSA having a day.

[onechance87]

kelel ware lookng real good and could be a steal at 15 for miami heat.We need to hire their scouts cause they are on a row.
Three straight years they drafting good players in the late first round.Making us look stupid.

[Raven]

this was clearly a great draft for centers, people misunderstood this draft.

[Ice009]

Good point about the Centers. Question to me is, is Victor ultimately a center? Because if he's not, the Spurs should have made an effort to draft one at number 8.

[onechance87]

Good point about the Centers. Question to me is, is Victor ultimately a center? Because if he's not, the Spurs should have made an effort to draft one at number 8.

victor has made it known he doesnt see himself as a center.We just dont got another big on this roster good enough to
defend or spread the floor.

[ace3g]

https://x.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1814521285570888122

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Good point about the Centers. Question to me is, is Victor ultimately a center? Because if he's not, the Spurs should have made an effort to draft one at number 8.

Of course he's a center.

[Ice009]

Well I know the Spurs played him as center later in the season, but I am wondering if Victor wants to actually play there full time or not (I am guessing the Spurs have said to him he's best at that spot, but OneChance87 mentioned that Victor doesn't see himself at a center. I know those are two different things as he can still play center, but not think of himself as one).

[Obstructed_View]

Everybody credits the success after taking Collins out of the lineup with everything other than taking Collins out of the lineup. Jeremy Sochan could be point guard and Victor could be shooting guard and they would have improved.

[RC_Drunkford]

Sidy is shooting 21% FG (8/38) and 12.5% (2/16) from 3 so far. He's Pop's wet dream :lol

[BackHome]

To be honest Pop said Forbes was like a young Curry and raved about Walker and now the same with Siddy

[mystargtr34]

Yeah it’s not necessarily a good sign when Pop does these glowing public endorsements where he overates players. It usually means he’s trying to build the players confidence. Did it with George Hill, Bryn Forbes, Lonnie, Sidy.

[Obstructed_View]

Yeah it’s not necessarily a good sign when Pop does these glowing public endorsements where he overates players. It usually means he’s trying to build the players confidence. Did it with George Hill, Bryn Forbes, Lonnie, Sidy.
Keith Bogans.

[mystargtr34]

Keith Bogans.

Forgot about the centrepiece lol. That 2008-2011 era of the Spurs felt like such a waste of 3 years.

[Obstructed_View]

Forgot about the centrepiece lol. That 2008-2011 era of the Spurs felt like such a waste of 3 years.
Smallball was what killed the Spurs from 06-12. Robert Horry, Richard Jefferson and Michael Finley playing power forward. :vomit:

[onechance87]

jaylen wells another player we passed on in the second round looking damn good.

[TD 21]

Smallball was what killed the Spurs from 06-12. Robert Horry, Richard Jefferson and Michael Finley playing power forward. :vomit:

Horry was a PF (sure, he played more SF when he entered in '92 to when the Rockets acquired Drexler in '95, but that was a different era and he was more mobile and physically weaker back then).

[onechance87]

dilly with a big game...been impressed with his playmaking tho.Seems like he wants prove hes more then just a shooter.

[Obstructed_View]

Horry was a PF (sure, he played more SF when he entered in '92 to when the Rockets acquired Drexler in '95, but that was a different era and he was more mobile and physically weaker back then).
He also was a role player. By the series against Dallas in 06 he was the only other big in the rotation.

[exstatic]

jaylen wells another player we passed on in the second round looking damn good.
There were 28 players selected in the second round by other teams. Are you going to spend the whole season crying about them?

[Mr. Body]

There were 28 players selected in the second round by other teams. Are you going to spend the whole season crying about them?

Yeah, probably.

[onechance87]

There were 28 players selected in the second round by other teams. Are you going to spend the whole season crying about them?

absolutely...We cant let them keep sweeping this under the rug.

[exstatic]

absolutely...We cant let them keep sweeping this under the rug.

They can’t pick 30 players in the second round. What you’re doing is a very old sports expression from before there was even a Monday Night football. It’s called Monday Morning Quarterbacking, criticizing with the benefit of hindsight, and it’s foolishness.

[ambchang]

What the spurs are doing is unacceptable. Every other team nails all their draft picks and the spurs are the only team the have failed picks. This is why the spurs are the worst franchise in the league with the least amount of respect.

[rjv]

hy·per·bo·le /hīˈpərbəlē/ noun:
What the spurs are doing is unacceptable. Every other team nails all their draft picks and the spurs are the only team the have failed picks. This is why the spurs are the worst franchise in the league with the least amount of respect.

[heyheymymy]

Been really impressed with Alondes Williams for MIA

[heyheymymy]

Ke'lel Ware continues to impress

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZUCuc2hVFc&amp;feature=youtu.be