Carlton Carrington

[DAF86]

I don't know why this kid doesn't get more buzz, tbh. Arguably the 2nd best on-ball creator in the draft (behind Dilly), good shooter, 6'5", not a libility on defense, one of the youngest prospects. No real wholes to his game. I would trade down to get him, tbh.

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Oh, and he killed the combine too:

https://www.si.com/college/pittsburgh/basketball/posts/pitt-panthers-bub-carrington-excels-nba-draft-combine#:~:text=excelled%20at%20the%20NBA%20Draft% 20Combine%20on%20Monday%2C%20displaying%20his,veri tcal%20jump%20of%2036.5%20inches.

I really don't get why he isn't mocked higher in this draft, tbh. I understand his efficiency isn't the best, but everyone with a functional set of eyes can tell that the type of shots he's taking as a teenage freshman are far from easy looks. With more experience and NBA level spacing, the efficieny should go way up.

Maybe someone that has watched more of him can educate me on why he isn't a surefire top 10 pick, tbh.

[spurraider21]

i'd rather trade down and take him than take Salaun, thats for sure

i agree that his shooting efficiency seems likely to improve. tbh most of what he needs to do to improve is just to reel himself in and try to do less, improve shot selection, etc. thats maturity. the skill level is quite good. depends on his mental makeup and i know nothing about that. if he seems like a guy who is legit coachable, worth a swing

he also needs to get stronger. probably will spend at least a full year in gleague

[Mr. Body]

He's getting a lot of buzz and I expect him to go in the lottery.

The times I've seen him, I wasn't terribly impressed. People like the sorts of things he does but he's not very good at them. He'll be a project, but could be good.

[DAF86]

i'd rather trade down and take him than take Salaun, thats for sure

i agree that his shooting efficiency seems likely to improve. tbh most of what he needs to do to improve is just to reel himself in and try to do less, improve shot selection, etc. thats maturity. the skill level is quite good. depends on his mental makeup and i know nothing about that. if he seems like a guy who is legit coachable, worth a swing

he also needs to get stronger. probably will spend at least a full year in gleague

He measured just as heavy as Ron Holland, a forward for whom everyone seems to have a hard on because of his physical traits, tbh.

[BackHome]

During the mocks he was second round and then rose to lottery and then fell to end of first. The reasons why he started to fall was his shooting from 3 was not good and he can not finish at the rim much like Blake. The reasons why he is rising again is his last month his shot improved and also pretty much his overall game showed improvement.

I am thinking he goes anywhere from 15 to 23 range and I think someone is going to get a steal. He just needs a year eating of eating "peanut butter' and to work on his 3 ball and midrange floater.

[DAF86]

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[Eaglenole2002]

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I watched this when it first came out. Good stuff. I love Carrington, but came away a little concerned about his admission that he struggles with open catch and shoot 3s because he gets in his own head because he has so much time to shoot.

[SpursBills]

If we're talking about long, tall freshman point guards with a smooth mid range game who have talented scoring instincts but seem to have limited athleticism and can't really put pressure on the rim, I like him a lot more than Jalen Hood-Schifino (undraftable) and a lot less than D'Angelo Russell (high lottery), so mid-late first rounder seems about right for him.

His shot profile worries me - relatively bad at the rim, elite from mid-range, ok from 3. I'm very wary of guys with a high diet of self-created midrange jumpers and whose efficiency is buoyed by those numbers - you're probably not shooting an elite percentage from mid-range in the NBA and it speaks to an inability to generate easy baskets at the rim. However, I do think that based on his combination of midrange %, 3 point volume, and FT%, that his 3 pointer will eventually translate quite well.

His defensive event generation also worries me - low steal and block rates in spite of his size suggests poor awareness although his relatively young age can somewhat excuse this. Mid-late first is about right for a flyer like this, certainly a much better bet to succeed than Josh Primo.

[Knoxxx]

Likely not worth maneuvering in the draft over. If he dropped to 35 sure you’d want to be on that.

[DAF86]

If we're talking about long, tall freshman point guards with a smooth mid range game who have talented scoring instincts but seem to have limited athleticism and can't really put pressure on the rim, I like him a lot more than Jalen Hood-Schifino (undraftable) and a lot less than D'Angelo Russell (high lottery), so mid-late first rounder seems about right for him.


Carrington ran his 3/4 court sprint in 3.28 seconds, ranking sixth best. He also finished ranked tied 12th best with a maximum veritcal jump of 36.5 inches.

[SpursBills]

Great numbers, but he also finished with 2 dunks for the year at 6'5 with a 6'8" wingspan and has below average volume and efficiency at the rim. He might be able to run fast and jump high, but it really isn't translating to functional athleticism.

I mean, D'Angelo russell has a reported 39" vertical, but he also seems to lack some functional athleticism when you watch him struggle to get separation, so maybe combine measurements don't tell the whole story here

[exstatic]

I don't know why this kid doesn't get more buzz, tbh. Arguably the 2nd best on-ball creator in the draft (behind Dilly), good shooter, 6'5", not a libility on defense, one of the youngest prospects. No real wholes to his game. I would trade down to get him, tbh.

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Oh, and he killed the combine too:

https://www.si.com/college/pittsburgh/basketball/posts/pitt-panthers-bub-carrington-excels-nba-draft-combine#:~:text=excelled%20at%20the%20NBA%20Draft% 20Combine%20on%20Monday%2C%20displaying%20his,veri tcal%20jump%20of%2036.5%20inches.

I really don't get why he isn't mocked higher in this draft, tbh. I understand his efficiency isn't the best, but everyone with a functional set of eyes can tell that the type of shots he's taking as a teenage freshman are far from easy looks. With more experience and NBA level spacing, the efficieny should go way up.

Maybe someone that has watched more of him can educate me on why he isn't a surefire top 10 pick, tbh.

Looks like another small SG. Decent asst/TO ratio, but low overall assists.

[Mr. Body]

Great numbers, but he also finished with 2 dunks for the year at 6'5 with a 6'8" wingspan and has below average volume and efficiency at the rim. He might be able to run fast and jump high, but it really isn't translating to functional athleticism.

I mean, D'Angelo russell has a reported 39" vertical, but he also seems to lack some functional athleticism when you watch him struggle to get separation, so maybe combine measurements don't tell the whole story here

Rewatching clips of him, there's a lot of pounding the ball and then doing the side-step stuff to get his shots. He reads closeouts and gets by aggressive defenders to step into midranges, which he's good at. Think DeRozan here. What people really like is his 'shot diet' of getting those threes but they don't go in and he has to do a bit to get him. His rebounds/assists are pretty good, but he played for a very bad team so he got to do a lot of things.

[Mr. Body]

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7:28 - On the top: "Isolation Scoring Is Easily His Best Skill." Action: gets destroyed by Kyle Filipowski who forces the worst shot ever on the baseline.

[DAF86]

Looks like another small SG. Decent asst/TO ratio, but low overall assists.

Over 5 assists per game isn't low for college basketball, tbh.

[exstatic]

Over 5 assists per game isn't low for college basketball, tbh.

Carrington averaged 4.1 Asst. you might have been looking at his rebounds, which are very good.

[DAF86]

Carrington averaged 4.1 Asst. you might have been looking at his rebounds, which are very good.

Still, that's pretty good. Playmaking is one of his strongest traits.

[Eaglenole2002]

Rewatching clips of him, there's a lot of pounding the ball and then doing the side-step stuff to get his shots. He reads closeouts and gets by aggressive defenders to step into midranges, which he's good at. Think DeRozan here. What people really like is his 'shot diet' of getting those threes but they don't go in and he has to do a bit to get him. His rebounds/assists are pretty good, but he played for a very bad team so he got to do a lot of things.
I’ve read that NBA teams were impressed by his play down the stretch and that’s where a lot of his helium came from. Looks like he shot 38 percent from 3 on decent volume over his final 13 games. Small sample size, of course.

[Eaglenole2002]

Tue other interesting thing about Carrington is he shot better off the dribble from 3 than he did catch and shoot, I believe.

[duncan2150]

What people think about his D ?

[DAF86]

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[DAF86]

What people think about his D ?

More than passable, imho.

[DAF86]

I would seriously consider trading either #4 or #8 to get two mid teens picks to draft Devin Carter and this guy. At least one of them has to pan out.

[Seventyniner]

What people think about his D ?

That's exactly the kind of thinking that got Primo in trouble.

[Vienna]

Considering the lack of talent and upside in this draft it‘s a bit surprising that he isn‘t higher on most boards. He will still only be 18 on draft night. he is 3 and a half years younger than Carter. He was much better than Carter was in his freshman year and he was as well better than Carter in his 2nd year. Do we really think Carter will be picked top 10 and Carrington end of 1st round?
i think his shot looks good and he shot 41% over the last third of his season. He will add strenghts, as they all do at 18.
I think he will be picked in the lottery and ahead of Carter. Why not the Jazz? George was a good pick, they might look for a similar risk/reward pick.

[Mr. Body]

Considering the lack of talent and upside in this draft it‘s a bit surprising that he isn‘t higher on most boards. He will still only be 18 on draft night. he is 3 and a half years younger than Carter. He was much better than Carter was in his freshman year and he was as well better than Carter in his 2nd year. Do we really think Carter will be picked top 10 and Carrington end of 1st round?
i think his shot looks good and he shot 41% over the last third of his season. He will add strenghts, as they all do at 18.
I think he will be picked in the lottery and ahead of Carter. Why not the Jazz? George was a good pick, they might look for a similar risk/reward pick.

Everything I've seen lately says he'll go late lottery or early 20s at the latest. I think he goes in the teens. I'll reiterate that he's very similar to those two guys we got a couple years ago in that he has good base material but is a project.

Carter isn't a project. Unless his shooting falls apart, he's a savvy, grizzled vet who understands the game at a level Carrington and others may never get to.

[Ignazzz]

Great to player. Top 15.

[PhantomDashCam]

Bub just got a Green Room invite.

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[DAF86]

Any chance Blazers bite on #4 (maybe add a couple of 2nd rounders) for #7 and #14?

[PhantomDashCam]

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[rankingtear]

This is their PG. Kid shot a ridiculous 50% on OTD jumpers from 2. Automatic mid range god.

[SpursBills]

If we're talking about long, tall freshman point guards with a smooth mid range game who have talented scoring instincts but seem to have limited athleticism and can't really put pressure on the rim, I like him a lot more than Jalen Hood-Schifino (undraftable) and a lot less than D'Angelo Russell (high lottery), so mid-late first rounder seems about right for him.

His shot profile worries me - relatively bad at the rim, elite from mid-range, ok from 3. I'm very wary of guys with a high diet of self-created midrange jumpers and whose efficiency is buoyed by those numbers - you're probably not shooting an elite percentage from mid-range in the NBA and it speaks to an inability to generate easy baskets at the rim. However, I do think that based on his combination of midrange %, 3 point volume, and FT%, that his 3 pointer will eventually translate quite well.

His defensive event generation also worries me - low steal and block rates in spite of his size suggests poor awareness although his relatively young age can somewhat excuse this. Mid-late first is about right for a flyer like this, certainly a much better bet to succeed than Josh Primo.

After watching him in summer league, definitely think i underestimated him - looks way more D-Lo than JHS at this point, and honestly looked better overall than Dillingham by a good margin. Has potential to be a starting lead guard with excellent size