Final Spurs Big Board for the 2024 Draft

[timvp]

https://www.spurstalk.com/final-spurs-big-board-2024-nba-draft/

Tough draft cycle. Should be a fun night :reading

[TrainOfThought5]

Feels like Christmas, TBH

[scottspurs]

So this very well could go Salaun at 4 and Dilly at 8! I can roll with it.

[scottspurs]

I think the Clingan stuff is them wanting someone to trade up with the Rockets or perhaps trade back themselves. I wouldn’t mind it. Makes sense if they are out on Castle and want Sheppard. If Rockets trade back it could be for someone coming to get Clingan and Sheppard falls to Spurs. If Sheppard is not there you can definitely trade back a few spots and grab Salaun and another prospect.

[rankingtear]

Williams and Salaun are their swings. Swinging for a forward is never bad in my book. You can't get them young anywhere else. They can hit open C&S 3 that is a good baseline for a prospect unlike the Ignite guys and Castle.

Just hope we get Knecht with one of the picks. Still high on him as young Bojan.

Sheppard is a major shooting outlier, those have surprise star upside. Carter could be a fake ceiling guy with that athleticism and growth rate. Those two are fine star bets and you would see it pretty early before they get drafted over.

[Mr. Body]

Topic it is, then.

[Splits]

So this very well could go Salaun at 4 and Dilly at 8! I can roll with it.

:vomit::vomit:

[tbdog]

Just cannot see Castle being a rotational player, even if he gets his shot at avg.

[LeBowen]

Dillingham at 8? You're telling me there's hope?
Drafting him and even getting some more on top by trading down would be amazing.

[SpursFan86]

Feel like I’m beating a dead horse but I just can’t emphasize enough how bad it will be if we get Salaun.

Imagine if Sheppard falls to 4 and we grab Salaun instead :lmao

[CGD]

Feel like I’m beating a dead horse but I just can’t emphasize enough how bad it will be if we get Salaun.

Imagine if Sheppard falls to 4 and we grab Salaun instead :lmao

I see it very tough that they would pass on Shepard if he is there at 4, and that includes if they have to choose between him and Castle.

[Mr. Body]

Dillingham at 8? You're telling me there's hope?
Drafting him and even getting some more on top by trading down would be amazing.

I'd say highly unlikely. Judging by this and other rumbles the FO is indeed valuing positional size over basketball ability.

[Teamduncan21]

Feel like I’m beating a dead horse but I just can’t emphasize enough how bad it will be if we get Salaun.

Imagine if Sheppard falls to 4 and we grab Salaun instead :lmao

Sheppard is higher on the board though.

[objective]

The objective final board:

1. Shepperd. No doubt in my mind, trade up for this guy
2. Risacher. I'd be okay with him instead of Shepperd because I can see his size as a shooter being a legit weapon
3. Holland. I'm a believer. Bust potential and Givony was pretty hostile about him on Dunc'd On but I'll go with my own verdict
4..Clingan. Sure?
5. Dillingham
6. Cody Williams
7. Sarr
8. Carrington
9. Carter
10. Topic

And of course Nunez and Mogbo for the second round

I'm way way out on Castle and Buzelis.

[Uriel]

Of course the Spurs made a promise to Salaun. He canceled all his remaining workouts after an “ankle injury” he sustained while working out in San Antonio. Right. :rolleyes

[LeBowen]

Of course the Spurs made a promise to Salaun. He canceled all his remaining workouts after an “ankle injury” he sustained while working out in San Antonio. Right. :rolleyes

As I said the other day, that could be another CIA Pop ploy.
Salaun actually got injured, but now everyone thinks Spurs rate him highly and some team might be dumb enough to bite.
I wouldn't rule out Blazers taking him at #7.

[Spurs Homer]

so what approximate time will the site meltdown and crash?


:downspin:

[Mugen]

Coming away with 2 guys from the Top 10 sans Cody Williams and Clingan would be a solid draft.

Really hope BWrong doesn’t f it up, most important draft of his career tbh

[Mr. Body]

Regardless of what happens, the Spurs have completely masked their interests. None of these teams are signaling their interests other than 1 and 2, but the Spurs sit on a hinge point and aren't gabbing. They have teams, if these reports are true, thinking about jumping ahead of them to get Cody Williams, Stephon Castle, and I think even Matas Buzelis.

[John B]

It’s here, it’s here. It’s finally here bitches!

Any of Castle, Reed, (Sarr if available), combined with any of Salaun, Williams, Dilly would be great.

Carter is okay, Knecht is meh but I get it. Oh and Topic is worth waiting for if the Spurs think he’s the future.

[John B]

Bronny James at 59 :lol

[SpursDynasty85]

Feel like I’m beating a dead horse but I just can’t emphasize enough how bad it will be if we get Salaun.

Imagine if Sheppard falls to 4 and we grab Salaun instead :lmao

Lots of possibilities but if Sheppard is there I think they take him and Salaun is the promise at 8. If they take Castle then they may go with someone like Devin Carter instead at 8. Doubt they go Salaun/Williams or Sheppard/Carter but more complimentary combos.

[spurraider21]

This Salaun shit is depressing :lol

Now i hope the rumors of shopping #8 are true. Move down and take Dillingham/Bub if we aren’t getting Sheppard at 4

[BatManu20]

Salaun at 4 would be disgusting tbh. Just as bad if not worse than the Primo reach imo. I'll never forgive PATFO if they pull that nonsense.

[BatManu20]

Coming away with 2 guys from the Top 10 sans Cody Williams and Clingan would be a solid draft.

Really hope BWrong doesn’t f it up, most important draft of his career tbh

What makes you dislike Cody Williams tbh? Just curious. I have other guys ahead of him on my wishlist at 8 but he's definitely grown on me a bit.

[spurraider21]

Salaun at 8 would be disgusting tbh. Just as bad if not worse than the Primo reach imo. I'll never forgive PATFO if they pull that nonsense.
Fify

[Joseph Kony]

I really hope this Salaun fetish is just a smokescreen to get some other dumb team to take him before we do

[SpursFan86]

I really hope this Salaun fetish is just a smokescreen to get some other dumb team to take him before we do

Same, holding out hope for this. It almost seems too obvious - of course the Spurs will be interested in the French guy. Hard to imagine them letting their interest get this well-known if they were really dead set on getting him.

(This is how I’m coping, at least)

[DPG21920]

I am glad to see Reed above Castle personally. But I want both if top 3 breaks Risacher, Sarr and Clingan then the path is there for SA to get Reed/Cody or Reed/Castle:

I would say that IF DET doesnt want Castle/Cody so strongly (I don’t think they would but they may) then theres a chance.

If the draft goes: Risacher to ATL, Sarr to WAS and Clingan to HOU then SA gets Reed and calls DET and says we offer you 8 + CHI (and pick 35 if they need to) for 5.

If DET *only* wants Buzelis (which they may, but based on Trajan comments about prioritizing getting extra draft capital and using pick 5 to move back a little to do it) then it doesnt work. But it sounds like they are fine with a few guys.

They would be guaranteed one of Buzelis, Cody Williams or Castle, Knecht since SA would be taking a guy (Castle) they dont really want.

I think it would have a high degree chance of getting done IF SA was willing to offer that CHI first. It’s top 10 protected 25, but only top 8 in 26 & 27 which would mean CHI would have to stay pretty bad for 3 years. To me its a worthwhile gamble to move back just 3 spots in this draft (so you still get a top 8 pick) and worst case you got 2 2nds (which IMO is about the cost of moving back 3 spots in this draft) with a shot at a first round lotto pick

[rankingtear]

Bub can play a good two-man game with Wemby, his fit is not questionable, aside from the midget guards I would say he is the best ball screen partner for him in this draft.

[Uriel]

Here’s my question though: if Salaun really did get a promise, who leaked it? It wouldn’t make sense for the Spurs to do so because that risks some team jumping ahead of them to get him (or else forcing Portland’s hand to take him at #7). It could’ve come from somewhere in Salaun’s camp, but if San Antonio is really their preferred destination, why on earth would they do that?

It seems logical that someone in San Antonio’s camp floated that false rumor precisely to force Portland’s hand or tempt some other team to trade up for him, in the hopes that a prospect they like more will fall. If that’s not the case and the promise is real, then it’s not a good look for someone in the Spurs inner circle to be leaking info about their true intentions.

[Mr. Body]

Here’s my question though: if Salaun really did get a promise, who leaked it? It wouldn’t make sense for the Spurs to do so because that risks some team jumping ahead of them to get him (or else forcing Portland’s hand to take him at #7). It could’ve come from somewhere in Salaun’s camp, but if San Antonio is really their preferred destination, why on earth would they do that?

It seems logical that someone in San Antonio’s camp floated that false rumor precisely to force Portland’s hand or tempt some other team to trade up for him, in the hopes that a prospect they like more will fall. If that’s not the case and the promise is real, then it’s not a good look for someone in the Spurs inner circle to be leaking info about their true intentions.

I think it just came from the fact that he sprained his ankle working out for the Spurs and shut down the rest of his workouts.

[Darkwaters]

I think it just came from the fact that he sprained his ankle working out for the Spurs and shut down the rest of his workouts.

Exactly. It's not a technical "smokescreen" if it didn't come from the Spurs directly. But the circumstances of his injury conspired in such a way that it seems to have confirmed a lot of people's priors.

[Uriel]

I think it just came from the fact that he sprained his ankle working out for the Spurs and shut down the rest of his workouts.
I agree that’s the most likely explanation. It seems strange to me though that that info has been out for a while now, yet timvp is reporting that the rumor that the Spurs made a promise to Salaun is suddenly “spreading like wildfire.”

[z0sa]

Here’s my question though: if Salaun really did get a promise, who leaked it? It wouldn’t make sense for the Spurs to do so because that risks some team jumping ahead of them to get him (or else forcing Portland’s hand to take him at #7). It could’ve come from somewhere in Salaun’s camp, but if San Antonio is really their preferred destination, why on earth would they do that?

It seems logical that someone in San Antonio’s camp floated that false rumor precisely to force Portland’s hand or tempt some other team to trade up for him, in the hopes that a prospect they like more will fall. If that’s not the case and the promise is real, then it’s not a good look for someone in the Spurs inner circle to be leaking info about their true intentions.

You can't just cancel workouts and not have other teams notice. Either his ankle really did get sprained, or it was the best option (faking or over-exaggerating a sprain) to keep him from other teams one-on-one.

[KobesAchilles]

KA draft board order for the Spurs as far as who I want picked

1. Reed
2. Matas
3. Knecht
4. Clingan
5. Dilly
6. Holland

everyone else can take a hike

[Darkwaters]

You can't just cancel workouts and not have other teams notice. Either his ankle really did get sprained, or it was the best option (faking or over-exaggerating a sprain) to keep him from other teams one-on-one.

If he's legitimately hurt I would understand canceling a workout. But I wonder if he's not also doing interviews with those teams? If he shut down those as well then it might be more suspicious.

[z0sa]

If he's legitimately hurt I would understand canceling a workout. But I wonder if he's not also doing interviews with those teams? If he shut down those as well then it might be more suspicious.

I wonder as well. If he/his team has gone dark, then Salaun at 8 feels all but assured. Just hoping it ain't 4 :lol

[Duncan2177]

I wonder as well. If he/his team has gone dark, then Salaun at 8 feels all but assured. Just hoping it ain't 4 :lol

No way the spurs are that dumb to past on Castle or Reed for Salaun at 4.

[Duncan2177]

No way the spurs are that dumb to pass on Castle or Reed for Salaun at 4.s

[z0sa]

No way the spurs are that dumb to past on Castle or Reed for Salaun at 4.

God, I hope so. I wouldn't want Salaun at 8 either, but the French Connection seems sharp right now. Hopefully we could get Risacher instead if that's the way things will be.

[BackHome]

We all ready got one long project in Siddy we dont need two

[Mugen]

What makes you dislike Cody Williams tbh? Just curious. I have other guys ahead of him on my wishlist at 8 but he's definitely grown on me a bit.

rail thin, plays soft, and just not seeing the upside tbh.

Im not cutting my wrists if he’s the pick at 8 like the Saluan haters but Tidjane is almost a year younger tbh, would rather bank on the younger guy with the higher motor imo

[Mugen]

Saluan would be dumb at #4 but seems like such a no brainer at 8 given all the different circumstances. For anybody to lose their shit at him being drafted there boggles my mind.

[Mr. Body]

Cody vs. Tidjane is a comp for sure:

One guy doesn't know how to play basketball, but runs around like a puppy dog

One guy knows where to go and how to play, but is passive as F and doesn't do anything

[MultiTroll]

So you guys are all convinced that Clingon is soo much better then Edey.

I dunno, i hope Edey doesn't run into some rare good NBA coaching and become a kick ass role player.

Kessler is doing fine in Utah imo.

Wemby needs a backup, urgently imo.
I also don't buy the Twin Towers cannot work.

[SpursFan86]

So you guys are all convinced that Clingon is soo much better then Edey.

I dunno, i hope Edey doesn't run into some rare good NBA coaching and become a kick ass role player.

Kessler is doing fine in Utah imo.

Wemby needs a backup, urgently imo.
I also don't buy the Twin Towers cannot work.

I think Clingan is definitely a tier above Edey, but I actually really like Edey and think he’s being underrated pretty heavily. He’s going to be a great pick in the teens for whoever grabs him.

[spurraider21]

Saluan would be dumb at #4 but seems like such a no brainer at 8 given all the different circumstances. For anybody to lose their shit at him being drafted there boggles my mind.
the delta in talent between the guys around pick 4 and the guys around pick 8 is minimal. if you are ok with salaun at 8 you should be more or less ok with him at 4

either way its awful

look maybe he becomes great but theres nothing to indicate that right now. "he has a good frame and broad shoulders" is a weak selling point

[Mr. Body]

Salaun is literally the player Barkley warned teams about.

[Mugen]

the delta in talent between the guys around pick 4 and the guys around pick 8 is minimal. if you are ok with salaun at 8 you should be more or less ok with him at 4

either way its awful

look maybe he becomes great but theres nothing to indicate that right now. "he has a good frame and broad shoulders" is a weak selling point

I think he’s clearly a tier below Risacher/Sarr/Shep/Castle. I’d be upset if they passed on one of those guys for Saluan.

But after that, no issues at all with a HR swing at 8.

[TrainOfThought5]

So you guys are all convinced that Clingon is soo much better then Edey.

I dunno, i hope Edey doesn't run into some rare good NBA coaching and become a kick ass role player.

Kessler is doing fine in Utah imo.

Wemby needs a backup, urgently imo.
I also don't buy the Twin Towers cannot work.

if we think the Twin Towers can work trading up for Sarr at 1 or 2 makes a lot of sense.

[Knoxxx]

I think he’s clearly a tier below Risacher/Sarr/Shep/Castle. I’d be upset if they passed on one of those guys for Saluan.

But after that, no issues at all with a HR swing at 8.

No way, that still leaves Clingan, Williams, Knecht, Buzelis on the board. Anyone that took Saluan over that group would be a fool.

[Knoxxx]

I think he’s clearly a tier below Risacher/Sarr/Shep/Castle. I’d be upset if they passed on one of those guys for Saluan.

But after that, no issues at all with a HR swing at 8.

No way, that still leaves Dilly, Clingan, Williams, Knecht, Buzelis on the board. Anyone that took Saluan over that group would be a fool. Recheck your math, 4 + 5 = 9 and that's being generous.

The edited version.

[spurraider21]

I think he’s clearly a tier below Risacher/Sarr/Shep/Castle. I’d be upset if they passed on one of those guys for Saluan.

But after that, no issues at all with a HR swing at 8.
he looks like a ground rule double swing at best. i dont see the home run

[Knoxxx]

So you guys are all convinced that Clingon is soo much better then Edey.

I dunno, i hope Edey doesn't run into some rare good NBA coaching and become a kick ass role player.

Kessler is doing fine in Utah imo.

Wemby needs a backup, urgently imo.
I also don't buy the Twin Towers cannot work.

I agree these people are fools, but we knew that. At least if Edey gives us lots of problems in the future, we can say we told you so.

[exstatic]

We all ready got one long project in Siddy we dont need two

Project Sidy may not be as long as you think. His shot is really fucked, he’s unguaranteed, and we have a shit ton of picks coming up.

[exstatic]

Salaun is literally the player Barkley warned teams about.

I kinda think that’s Holland. Or maybe both.

[DPG21920]

Spurs may be pulling a DPG:

https://www.actionnetwork.com/nba/2024-nba-draft-day-intel-where-everything-is-undecided?source_caller=api&af_dp=action%3A%2F%2Farticle%3Fid%3D603031945&shortlink=2r3dxju3&af_sub1=603031945&c=af-newsletter&pid=af-newsletter&deep_link_value=action%3A%2F%2Farticle%3Fid%3D6030 31945&af_adset=2024-nba-draft-day-intel-where-everything-is-undecided

“One final note: if a team were to move up, they would move up to get Alex Sarr or Risacher, with Risacher most likely. Several teams have taken calls from San Antonio over the past week, and league sources suspect their intention is to try and land a second top-five pick in the draft to land Risacher alongside Stephon Castle at No. 4.”

[Darkwaters]

God, I hope so. I wouldn't want Salaun at 8 either, but the French Connection seems sharp right now. Hopefully we could get Risacher instead if that's the way things will be.

Dadiet at 35 or Ajinca at 48 could also scratch that French Connection while letting us actually draft the better choices in the 1st round.

[Mr. Body]

Spurs may be pulling a DPG:

https://www.actionnetwork.com/nba/2024-nba-draft-day-intel-where-everything-is-undecided?source_caller=api&af_dp=action%3A%2F%2Farticle%3Fid%3D603031945&shortlink=2r3dxju3&af_sub1=603031945&c=af-newsletter&pid=af-newsletter&deep_link_value=action%3A%2F%2Farticle%3Fid%3D6030 31945&af_adset=2024-nba-draft-day-intel-where-everything-is-undecided

“One final note: if a team were to move up, they would move up to get Alex Sarr or Risacher, with Risacher most likely. Several teams have taken calls from San Antonio over the past week, and league sources suspect their intention is to try and land a second top-five pick in the draft to land Risacher alongside Stephon Castle at No. 4.”

Spurs are trying to get up as high as possible to give Tidjane as much money as they can.

[024]

Hoping to get Reed but guess will settle for Castle at 4. Then Williams at 8. If he's not available, things get a bit unclear:


Carter has such an ugly shot that doesn't seem likely to translate to the NBA (plus he only shot well for one year). Then again Shawn Marion Knecht seems like a safer choice vs Carter and their ages are similar Maybe Salaun but his improvement areas are "learn basketball." His raw physical tools could be worth the gamble After watching the playoffs and being reminded at how poor defensive players are relentlessly hunted in a 7 game series, Dillingham has completed dropped out of favor for me