The Futuristic Power Armor of Harrison Ingram

[Chinook]

I like the pick. He's a big versatile defender.

[Notorious H.O.P.]

In before the trade.

[Seventyniner]

I heard he's a cross between Harrison Barnes and Brandon Ingram. Why didn't the Spurs just pick him at #8?

[RC_Drunkford]

Has good size and a 3-point shot while being versatile on defense. Definitely could see him stick as a 3-and-D player. Good pick in the 2nd round.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20E7gcBLo-c

[LeBowen]

This season's stats:
12.2/8.8/2.2 with 1.4 steals and 0.4 blocks on 43/38/61, 33mpg.

Just 1.8 3pt attemps, not a reliable shooter as of now.
I guess Grant Williams would be the comp if he develops? A little bit of everything with a somewhat reliable shot is the best case scenario?

[K...]

may he earn the title fathead the highest title a defensive roleplayer can get in the spurs honor ring

[Robz4000]

LDN 2.0

[ChumpDumper]

This season's stats:
12.2/8.8/2.2 with 1.4 steals and 0.4 blocks on 43/38/61, 33mpg.

Just 1.8 3pt attemps, not a reliable shooter as of now.
I guess Grant Williams would be the comp if he develops? A little bit of everything with a somewhat reliable shot is the best case scenario?
I thought 1.8 was his 3pt makes.

[Mnky]

Really like this pick. Shorter but wide bidy forward with great reach. He crashes the boards. Love seeing the spurs target guys who rebound. Spurs are atrocious at rebounding outside of wemby.

This guy plays the right way, moves the ball and does the little things. Willingness to work on Flaws.

Good 2nd round swings.

[BackHome]

Measurements & Stats:

HT: 6'6.5 Weight: 234 - big boy
Wing: 7'0 - like the reach

3 Ball% - .385 - Nice
FT% - .612 - Yuck
PTS - 12.2

[couchman]

Meh

[Notorious H.O.P.]

Listed as 6' 5" on the NBA's draft website.

https://www.nba.com/draft/2024/prospects/harrison-ingram

[spurraider21]

im assuming his agent said he will settle for a 2-way deal

[RC_Drunkford]

This season's stats:
12.2/8.8/2.2 with 1.4 steals and 0.4 blocks on 43/38/61, 33mpg.

Just 1.8 3pt attemps, not a reliable shooter as of now.
I guess Grant Williams would be the comp if he develops? A little bit of everything with a somewhat reliable shot is the best case scenario?

3-point shot looks legit and he has somewhat of a post game, although it's very slow. He doesn't have a midrange at all though.

[scott]

I like this pick! Based on everything we've heard about the Spurs and pick #35, I assume this will be on a two-way. This is a nice swing at a PF archetype that I think we need. Kind of like a thift-store knock off of Jarace Walker.

[LeBowen]

I thought 1.8 was his 3pt makes.

You're right, I read the wrong column. He's taking 4.6 per game, shooting isn't an issue, then.
FT at 61% looks bad, but it's just 2.6 attempts.

Ringer's report:

https://i.imgur.com/cpClHlq.png

[Knoxxx]

Ingram looks like a potential Keldon Johnson replacement if we trade him.

[BackHome]

So we got a shorter Siddy with less handles?

[onechance87]

If his 3 point shooting is foreal,Could be good a real good pick

[Darkwaters]

So we got a shorter Siddy with less handles?

Ingram is shooting around 40% from 3 in college.

Sidy Cissoko looks like he's just throwing the ball in the general direction of the basket.

[spurraider21]

flier on a keldon replacement who will likely be on a 2-way

could do worse at 48

[Mr. Body]

Everytime this guy dunks, it looks like he's not gonna make it.

[Vienna]

I do like the pick. Had to do some research on him, didn‘t pay that much attention before. Smart young man. Great sense of humor. Should bring in leadership and intangibles.
compares a bit to Draymond Green, almost same measurements, body type and strenght. Should play much bigger than his height, rebounding numbers suggest he does.
great pick for 48.

[sfernald]

Whose roster spot does he take? Wesley!!!!1111!111!11!11!!

[Darkwaters]

Whose roster spot does he take? Wesley!!!!1111!111!11!11!!

2 way contract

[Mr. Body]

He reminds me of that forward from Ohio State we drafted and never played in the NBA.

[BatManu20]

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Like most everything I see from him as a pick at this point in the second round, but Homey looks slower than slow. I see he's supposedly switchable on guards but I'll have to see it to believe it. All in all, not a bad near of the end of the draft pick.

[kobyz]

If he'll improve his shot i see a rick fox

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He reminds me of that forward from Ohio State we drafted and never played in the NBA.

Branham...oh I almost forgot, "never" played. Close enough though.

[Mr. Body]

Branham...oh I almost forgot, "never" played. Close enough though.

Deshawn Thomas

[Mr. Body]

If Ingram really killed it in workouts and they kept him at 48 imagine how shitty the workouts for everyone available at 8 must have been.

[palangi]

Has good size and a 3-point shot while being versatile on defense. Definitely could see him stick as a 3-and-D player. Good pick in the 2nd round.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20E7gcBLo-c
6’5” is good size for a 3/4??

[spurraider21]

He reminds me of that forward from Ohio State we drafted and never played in the NBA.
deshaun thomas? that guy was a better scorer

[TD 21]

Size is more than height. Ingram is 234 lbs with a 7'0'' wingspan, prototypical combo forward/big wing physical tools.

Unfortunately, he's more of a theoretical than actual shooter, which makes him a certified "laser" around here.

[Mr. Body]

deshaun thomas? that guy was a better scorer

Okay?

[palangi]

Size is more than height. Ingram is 234 lbs with a 7'0'' wingspan, prototypical combo forward/big wing physical tools.

Unfortunately, he's more of a theoretical than actual shooter, which makes him a certified "laser" around here.
Ok.

[Splits]

the futuristic power of bust. no way this guy makes it in the NBA. Guandong Southern Tigers are calling, they want their pick back

[Chinook]

deshaun thomas? that guy was a better scorer

He was. In many ways, he was to forwards circa 2010 as Malaki is to guards. He's having himself a decent career overseas, but the Spurs were never serious about giving him a chance. He forced his was onto the roster one off-season and got cut.

[Eaglenole2002]

Watched some highlights and immediately thought he looked like Grant Williams and then saw that was everyone’s comp. He needs to cut some weight, but it’s a fine pick. Wished we used 35 on a legit player and moved on from a bench scrub.

[Chinook]

I've been retroactively listening to podcasts talking about him as a draft prospect. One thing that stuck out of me was that one person basically said "Ingram can do things with the ball, but in order to be a successful NBA player, he needs to focus on shooting at a high rate and guarding whoever he's put out there to check." That is the Danny Green path. Danny was a power-forward in school and had more junk in his game that he would show early in his career. Pop even ran Danny as the backup PG for a stretch. However, during the lockout, Danny realized that he was only going to be an NBA player if he could make himself into a three-and-D player, and he worked really hard over the break to do so. He went from a guy who had some potential in a lot of areas to an only-three-only-D player for whom it was a mistake to do anything else.

In an ideal world, Ingram would do that. He'd work tirelessly on his shot so that his UNC shooting carried over, and he's use his impressive physical tools to become one of the better front-court defenders in the league. There's absolutely a place for that kind of player on a championship team, let alone this Spurs team. However, he got drafted by the Spurs, and history tells us, he's likely going to be sent to Austin to play PG. He'll spend at least one season with the ball in his hands "learning to read defenses", but his shot will lag behind. The Spurs probably didn't see a modern three-and-D forward. They probably saw a "positionless player" and are going to consider his value based on his ability to drive and make plays instead of playing the support role his attributes project him to play. I'm pessimistic about how he'll do, but I really do think the talent is there. Castle, Dillingham and Ingram would've been a nice trio to leave the draft with.

[rjv]

He reminds me of that forward from Ohio State we drafted and never played in the NBA.

was he a chess player, too?

[dbestpro]

He will spend the season in Austin. At least that’s something. Now what about shooters.

[palangi]

I've been retroactively listening to podcasts talking about him as a draft prospect. One thing that stuck out of me was that one person basically said "Ingram can do things with the ball, but in order to be a successful NBA player, he needs to focus on shooting at a high rate and guarding whoever he's put out there to check." That is the Danny Green path. Danny was a power-forward in school and had more junk in his game that he would show early in his career. Pop even ran Danny as the backup PG for a stretch. However, during the lockout, Danny realized that he was only going to be an NBA player if he could make himself into a three-and-D player, and he worked really hard over the break to do so. He went from a guy who had some potential in a lot of areas to an only-three-only-D player for whom it was a mistake to do anything else.

In an ideal world, Ingram would do that. He'd work tirelessly on his shot so that his UNC shooting carried over, and he's use his impressive physical tools to become one of the better front-court defenders in the league. There's absolutely a place for that kind of player on a championship team, let alone this Spurs team. However, he got drafted by the Spurs, and history tells us, he's likely going to be sent to Austin to play PG. He'll spend at least one season with the ball in his hands "learning to read defenses", but his shot will lag behind. The Spurs probably didn't see a modern three-and-D forward. They probably saw a "positionless player" and are going to consider his value based on his ability to drive and make plays instead of playing the support role his attributes project him to play. I'm pessimistic about how he'll do, but I really do think the talent is there. Castle, Dillingham and Ingram would've been a nice trio to leave the draft with.
Like sidy or champagnie or Johnson?

yep redundant and wasted pick.

[mystargtr34]

He’s got good measurements for a 3/4 combo forward. Only 6’5.25 without shoes but 7’0 wingspan and decent standing reach at 8’6.5 (more of a 3 than a 4). 235 pounds should allow him to defend most 4’s but most will be able to shoot over him.

Another thing that stood out is he has big hands which might explain some of the excellent rebounding numbers and good passing/ball handling.

Decent 3 point stroke too.

Hopefully he has a good work ethic to continue improving his game and his Spanish.

[benefactor]

He has an action star name. So there's that.

[Darkwaters]

He was. In many ways, he was to forwards circa 2010 as Malaki is to guards. He's having himself a decent career overseas, but the Spurs were never serious about giving him a chance. He forced his was onto the roster one off-season and got cut.

The Jack McClinton maneuver

[CorrectCrusader]

Really like this pick. Shorter but wide bidy forward with great reach. He crashes the boards. Love seeing the spurs target guys who rebound. Spurs are atrocious at rebounding outside of wemby.

This guy plays the right way, moves the ball and does the little things. Willingness to work on Flaws.

Good 2nd round swings.

This is off topic, but what's the context for the gif in the signature?

[Splits]

was he a chess player, too?

He's the Beth Harmon of this draft.

PATFO playing 4d

[Eaglenole2002]

Looks like Ingram us already cut weight, so that’s good.

https://x.com/pnewt0n/status/1806451843477975518?s=46&t=gAwjPxzSEDdTSordgsDRvw

[scott]

He can be our modern day Malik Rose

[The Truth #6]

Second round. Will be shocking if he gets playing time but skill set sounds useful.

[scott]

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[onechance87]

Second round. Will be shocking if he gets playing time but skill set sounds useful.

like i said earlier,If his 3 point shot good,He could be a steal for us.Good defender,Good rebounder,Would be a damn good 3 and d player.
Guess will see how he starts off in the summer league with castle.Last season we saw several different changes with our sf,With champ,keldon
and osman.Not sure if we bringing any other free agents in,But think hes got a decent shot to surpass them cause they just aint
that good.

[Dverde]

Be great to get grant williams but not actually have it be grant williams

[Eaglenole2002]

According to Veccine, Ingram hit 36.4 percent of his 3-pointers at 25+ feet. I have no idea how large that sample size is, but it’s promising nonetheless.

[Eaglenole2002]

Hollinger likes him quite a bit FWIW

[Splits]

Looks like Ingram us already cut weight, so that’s good.

https://x.com/pnewt0n/status/1806451843477975518?s=46&t=gAwjPxzSEDdTSordgsDRvw

lmao a single 3 ball make on loop makes not a shooter. kid is already a bust. next (2031)

[Splits]

like i said earlier,If his 3 point shot good,He could be a steal for us.Good defender,Good rebounder,Would be a damn good 3 and d player.
Guess will see how he starts off in the summer league with castle.Last season we saw several different changes with our sf,With champ,keldon
and osman.Not sure if we bringing any other free agents in,But think hes got a decent shot to surpass them cause they just aint
that good.

wtf is wrong with your phone/keyboard. jfc this is not just unreadable, but painful to even look at

[dbestpro]

Grasping for straws.

[Splits]

Hollinger likes him quite a bit FWIW

I can tell you what that is worth.




















Nothing.

[RC_Drunkford]

Looks like Ingram us already cut weight, so that’s good.

https://x.com/pnewt0n/status/1806451843477975518?s=46&t=gAwjPxzSEDdTSordgsDRvw

seems like he's already working on his midrange which is his main weakness. He might earn himself a roster spot down the line.

[onechance87]

wtf is wrong with your phone/keyboard. jfc this is not just unreadable, but painful to even look at

sorry bro

[Ariel]

If Ingram really killed it in workouts and they kept him at 48 imagine how shitty the workouts for everyone available at 8 must have been.
Funny, because Givony said he talked to Tim Connelly, an executive who runs circles around the current Spurs FO, and he said they had Rob Dillingham work for a couple of hours and he was AMAZING.

[Chinook]

I think folks comparing Ingram to Sidy in terms of how they can project their seasons to go are off base. Ingram is older and more experienced. The Spurs don't (currently) have the same roster options in front of him. I hope he's not Plan A for the rotation, but he may well get a better shot at earning it than Cissoko did last year.

[Mnky]

This is off topic, but what's the context for the gif in the signature?

This is when Kawhi was becoming the No.1 and Parker was desperately trying to stop it with his good ol selfish ways.

Pop had called a play for kawhi, and Parker wanted to do it his way. Pop got tired of his crap.

[duncan2150]

https://x.com/albertoeghim/status/1806774815564689899

[ace3g]

https://x.com/albertoeghim/status/1806774815564689899

Here is the video from the tweet


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08UICECXhKw

[ace3g]

Thought this was funny

https://x.com/Josh810/status/1806444011101561177

[Uriel]

FWIW, this guy played at Stanford before transferring to UNC. Besides being an elite basketball player, he has sterling academic pedigree.

[ace3g]

Some of his Stanford highlights.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eascFr64KaQ&pp=ygUjaGFycmlzb24gaW5ncmFtIHN 0YW5mb3JkIGhpZ2hsaWdodHM%3D


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvC3JVGqwuM&pp=ygUjaGFycmlzb24gaW5ncmFtIHN 0YW5mb3JkIGhpZ2hsaWdodHM%3D

[ace3g]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRMeOGhXcAEcApj?format=png&name=900x900

[Chinook]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIMciNAsWNU&ab_channel=SanAntonioSpurs

Seems like he's marketing himself as three-and-D guy. That's exactly the right. I'm hoping he's saying that because that's what the Spurs told him and there'd be no tension. With Castle to guard PGs and SGs and Sochan to guard SFs and PFs, Ingram can sort of back-up both of them to provide a lot of coverage, and he may be one of the best shooters on the team if that improvement gets locked in.

[RC_Drunkford]

so apparently he worked out with a shooting coach who also trains Steph Curry to improve his shooting mechanics this past year. He said he watched a lot of Draymond Green tape when it came to passing out of the post.

[Dejounte]

Not sure why we’re penciling in a role for this guy when he hasn’t played a single minute and it’s historically a rare event when a 2nd round pick sticks around… you’ve got your Tre Joneses and then you have fifty Quinndary Weatherspoonses

[kobyz]

Is like pj tucker/jae crowder type 3 and d but with more smoothness and playmaking to his game

[onechance87]

so apparently he worked out with a shooting coach who also trains Steph Curry to improve his shooting mechanics this past year. He said he watched a lot of Draymond Green tape when it came to passing out of the post.

get that shooting coach with castle as well

[RC_Drunkford]

Not sure why we’re penciling in a role for this guy when he hasn’t played a single minute and it’s historically a rare event when a 2nd round pick sticks around… you’ve got your Tre Joneses and then you have fifty Quinndary Weatherspoonses

always a long shot, but 3-and-D players have the best chance of sticking

[Chinook]

Not sure why we’re penciling in a role for this guy when he hasn’t played a single minute and it’s historically a rare event when a 2nd round pick sticks around… you’ve got your Tre Joneses and then you have fifty Quinndary Weatherspoonses

Because he has to decide what kind of player he's going to try to develop into. Right now, he can either be a more traditional three-and-D player or try to be more of an on-ball offensive player. He's probably not going to get that many shots at making a team, so he needs to show as much value to an NBA front office as possible. Him focusing on trying to be a valuable role-player is great news. If he's focusing on being that because the Spurs told him that's what he's going to do, that even better news.

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vsowd-J4SE&t=11s

[scott]

looks like he still has baby teeth

[Chinook]

Looks like he officially signed his two-way. That fills up the 18-man roster. Minix would have to beat someone out, or the X-9 will be exercised, and he'll go to Austin.

[scott]

WE STACKED

[Mr. Body]

Two Harrisons on the team. Is that legal?

[mudyez]

Two Harrisons on the team. Is that legal?

I prefer that to two Ingrams!

[Dejounte]

They’ve been playing this dude as a center in the gleague. Not sure if it’s because of the roster construction of that team or if that’s where they see his future. If it’s the latter, then folks who think mamu or collins is too small to guard nba centers will be in for a rude awakening if this is how the spurs are grooming their future players. I personally dont mind it as ive said harrison’s game is too slow before to be a small forward or below. As a pf, he’s even slower than mamu and thats not good.

[onechance87]

They’ve been playing this dude as a center in the gleague. Not sure if it’s because of the roster construction of that team or if that’s where they see his future. If it’s the latter, then folks who think mamu or collins is too small to guard nba centers will be in for a rude awakening if this is how the spurs are grooming their future players. I personally dont mind it as ive said harrison’s game is too slow before to be a small forward or below. As a pf, he’s even slower than mamu and thats not good.

is minix playing power foward or center as well

[Dejounte]

is minix playing power foward or center as well

Minix plays mostly pf and maybe 10% of the time center when neither mensah or ingram are in.

Cissoko is dominating right now, looks like lebron lite with his drives. Everyone moves out of the way

[Dejounte]

https://www.youtube.com/live/AeT8JmyfNDs?feature=shared

free on youtube. Halftime right now