Chris Paul signs with the Spurs

[Pauleta14]

Been a Chris Paul fan for years. I remember watching him frequently during his rookie (and sophomore) season in Oklahoma City.

You mean NO ...

[Obstructed_View]

Come on man, as much as we all hated CP3 in the day he never raped a 13 year old and then refused to support the kid like Warm Karl. That's the one player I'd never cheer for in a Spurs uniform.
I don't think any of that was discussed when Malone left Utah. Mailman is the only Spurs acquisition that would have made me a Mavs fan. :lol

[Dex]

I mean Robert Horry was one of my most hated players of all time back in 2003 but was glad as hell when the Spurs landed him. I know not the same situation since we're getting the last year or two of Paul's career but I'm pretty happy to have a first ballot Hall of Famer here to help teach Stephon to be an NBA point guard, plus should get a lot of nice Wemby highlights out of Paul's minutes too since he's the greatest lob passer in the history of the league.

Robert Horry is the first name that came to mind after hearing this news. At first I was like....ugh. But like him or not, Chris Paul does bring a lot of what the Spurs need in terms of passing, basketball intelligence, and overall veteran leadership.

Granted, Horry had a lot more left in the tank and the Spurs were already contenders without him...but it's really hard to be mad about this deal especially at 1 year 11mill.

[GAustex]

As a massive hater, the best thing in all this is that CP3 is going to stay ringless, tbh.
Lol

[baseline bum]

I don't think any of that was discussed when Malone left Utah. Mailman is the only Spurs acquisition that would have made me a Mavs fan. :lol

Thought it got out around the year 2000 or so. I would have become a Cavs fan for a while. :lol

[Darkwaters]

You mean NO ...

Nope, I don't. Chris Paul played his first two seasons in Oklahoma City when the Hornets were there.

Look it up. I'm not wrong. I was a season ticket holder.

[LeBowen]

Noone mentioned the most important thing.

Will Cliff Paul's contract obligations to State Farm prevent him from making an appearance in HEB commercials?

[CitizenDwayne]

LOVE this move. Sure he's old af but he brings pretty much everything we're lacking on the offensive end (playmaking / shooting / leadership). And he's great at getting the most out of his teammates, which is essential given the roster as constructed

And the contract is affordable and still allows SA flexibility next summer. Huge step in the right direction imo

[Darkwaters]

LOVE this move. Sure he's old af but he brings pretty much everything we're lacking on the offensive end (playmaking / shooting / leadership). And he's great at getting the most out of his teammates, which is essential given the roster as constructed

And the contract is affordable and still allows SA flexibility next summer. Huge step in the right direction imo

The contract is also incredible tradeable at the deadline. The Spurs might be able to unload him for another asset or just ride out the season and then let him walk. It's really the ideal situation.

The whole point of bringing in CP3 is to try and improve all the other players. Last season I think the oldest player on the squad was Cedi Osman (29) and then Zach Collins (26). Neither had ever been a significant part of a winning franchise. Paul is the first step in upgrading the culture of this franchise. Even if we're not going to become elite overnight. But as others have stated, where CP3 has gone the young players consistently improve. That's a really valuable one year rental.

[Obstructed_View]

Thought it got out around the year 2000 or so. I would have become a Cavs fan for a while. :lol
Maybe. Could have sworn it was long after the Mexican girls comment, which was after he retired. Regardless, I had myriad reasons to hate that fucking faggot long before he ever became a Laker.

[Obstructed_View]

You mean NO ...
I did the same thing. Hurricane Katrina.

[baseline bum]

Maybe. Could have sworn it was long after the Mexican girls comment, which was after he retired. Regardless, I had myriad reasons to hate that fucking faggot long before he ever became a Laker.

Apparently it came out as a result of a paternity suit in 1998. I thought for sure it came out before he looked like he was signing here in 2003 because I was so against it I changed my avatar here to Malone's NBA.com profile pic but with a bunch of dicks drawn all over his face. Got a lot of complaints about that one. :lol

[Pauleta14]

Nope, I don't. Chris Paul played his first two seasons in Oklahoma City when the Hornets were there.

Look it up. I'm not wrong. I was a season ticket holder.

My bad

[Pauleta14]

Interesting observation from a journalist on the domino effect that lead Paul to SA...

I wonder if PATFO just jump on the opportunity or had this option in mind for a while.

https://x.com/JakeLFischer/status/1807805777177981244

[Darkwaters]

My bad

No worries. Most people forget about what happened post-Katrina.

Actually, it was the overwhelming success of the Hornets in Oklahoma City that encouraged a group of businesses in the area to get together and buy the Supersonics.

[Obstructed_View]

Apparently it came out as a result of a paternity suit in 1998. I thought for sure it came out before he looked like he was signing here in 2003 because I was so against it I changed my avatar here to Malone's NBA.com profile pic but with a bunch of dicks drawn all over his face. Got a lot of complaints about that one. :lol
I stand corrected. I hated him so thoroughly as a basketball player that his failings as a human being didn't move the needle.

[Ariel]

Interesting observation from a journalist on the domino effect that lead Paul to SA...

I wonder if PATFO just jump on the opportunity or had this option in mind for a while.

https://x.com/JakeLFischer/status/1807805777177981244
That's hardly news. It had been reported for a long time that GSW were going after PG13 and, in that case, CP3's deal would have been guaranteed and included in the deal as filler. For sure they had this option in mind for a long time and I think chances were good he was waived. Think Utah for instance, last week they were trying to trade for Mikal Bridges to persuade PG13 to sign and put together a contender, today they're said to be pivoting to moving Lauri and tanking. It's a very dynamic business that's tough to predict, which is why teams that are better equiped to take advantage of opportunities come out ahead.

[MultiTroll]

:) Clifford Paul sniffers
:lol "elite"
:lol Pops Pet

:depressed Potential future coach of Spurs if Trumpler i mean Popler appoints him.

[GAustex]

Chris Paul coach of the Spurs?!?
How is that even conceivable?

[MultiTroll]

Chris Paul coach of the Spurs?!?
How is that even conceivable?
Get your sniff on brother.
https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.sxK9hagUfxvsmcc3TiL61gHaDt?rs=1&pid=ImgDetMain

[GAustex]

Puke

[Tyronn Lue]

Ah this bullshit lie still going around
Either that or they were stupid level incompetent. Which do you prefer to believe?

[TVI]

Our broke ass family got lower level seats, maybe 15 rows back, one game. It was against the Knicks and they started off well, like 11-2. Then it snowballed and got our teeth kicked in lol. But hey, it was fun, folks got to heckle Oakley, and I never got to see the Spurs any closer than that. I don't think Wilkins played that game but boy oh boy did I get to see some sweet Perdue/Maxwell/Herrera/Del Negro action

My friend and I used to go see the Spurs in Hemisphere Arena when we were in High School. The cheapest ticket was $4, but the Gold C coupon books used to include "buy one get one free" for Spurs games.

The best part was, the ushers didn't care if we snuck down to sit in the unoccupied lower level seats at halftime. Gervin, Silas, Gale, Olberding, Dietrich, Whopper, etc.

Good times.

[Knoxxx]

Been a Chris Paul fan for years. I remember watching him frequently during his rookie (and sophomore) season in Oklahoma City.

Way back before electricity?

[RC_Drunkford]

What y'all think about CP3 becoming an assistant coach? He's a basketball head, always respected the Spurs and is friends with Tim and Tony. Wouldn't be surprised if he joined our coaching staff once he hangs it up.

[mudyez]

Best case scenario: Having him teach Castle, Wemby, hopefully Nunez and others some stuff while showing he can still ball. Then trade him at the TDL for some nice stuff to a contender.

[djohn2oo8]

Best case scenario: Having him teach Castle, Wemby, hopefully Nunez and others some stuff while showing he can still ball. Then trade him at the TDL for some nice stuff to a contender.
You start him and his hamstrings are dead by November. You might as well just start Castle.

[3&D_TBH]

Nope. Start him but just play him like 20 mpg and the value added is really worth it tbh

[Knoxxx]

Nope. Start him but just play him like 20 mpg and the value added is really worth it tbh

48 minutes divided by 3 is 16 minutes each at PG. But Jones can play without being the primary ball handler also, when he plays with Castle. Many teams still play small Guards and as long as they are not main scorers Tre can guard those players some. Castle can play SG or SF also as a wing.

Now, I have seen some pretty weird depth charts, one had Keldon at PF and I think I have seen two that suggest Castle starts at the 2 and Devin the 3.

[Kindergarten Cop]

I saw this and thought it was hilarious (sorry if it's already been posted):

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[Darkwaters]

48 minutes divided by 3 is 16 minutes each at PG. But Jones can play without being the primary ball handler also, when he plays with Castle. Many teams still play small Guards and as long as they are not main scorers Tre can guard those players some. Castle can play SG or SF also as a wing.


Of all those players your highest priority has to be Castle. He was the #4 pick and is the only player of those 3 that has a role in the forthcoming Spurs dynasty. That doesn't mean he gets all the PG minutes he wants. SG/SF time is still valuable for him - especially if he's playing next to Chris Paul at those times.

Assuming Tre isn't in the long-term plans, he's probably the least important of those 3 guys. If Castle actually is a PG long-term then that's especially true. It'll be curious how they use Tre, especially as good as he was for them last year, because this offseason has been nothing but bad news for him.

[slick'81]

Of all those players your highest priority has to be Castle. He was the #4 pick and is the only player of those 3 that has a role in the forthcoming Spurs dynasty. That doesn't mean he gets all the PG minutes he wants. SG/SF time is still valuable for him - especially if he's playing next to Chris Paul at those times.

Assuming Tre isn't in the long-term plans, he's probably the least important of those 3 guys. If Castle actually is a PG long-term then that's especially true. It'll be curious how they use Tre, especially as good as he was for them last year, because this offseason has been nothing but bad news for him.

tre should definitely be the backup pg

[Chinook]

That's hardly news. It had been reported for a long time that GSW were going after PG13 and, in that case, CP3's deal would have been guaranteed and included in the deal as filler. For sure they had this option in mind for a long time and I think chances were good he was waived. Think Utah for instance, last week they were trying to trade for Mikal Bridges to persuade PG13 to sign and put together a contender, today they're said to be pivoting to moving Lauri and tanking. It's a very dynamic business that's tough to predict, which is why teams that are better equiped to take advantage of opportunities come out ahead.

As I mentioned a couple of times before, I believe the Spurs made roster moves that basically signaled they were planning to receive Paul in the trade. That's why they awkwardly still have cap space open now. I think the big reason why they were able to sign him so quickly is because they had already talked to him within the context to the trade. Because the Spurs wanted him, they were willing to take him without LAC or GS paying. Heck the Spurs probably were planning to throw in a pick. Because they were taking him into cap space, they didn't need to guarantee Graham or Bassey/Champ. LAC would've gotten Wiggins and only $2.8 in dead salary from the Spurs along with picks from GS and SA. GS would've gotten George. SA would've gotten Paul. So no buyout from Utah or anything like that.

Just like with the eighth pick, it seems like the Spurs had one idea of what to do with their cap space and are finding it hard to pivot once that idea became inapplicable.

[skin27]

Castle should start and CP3 off the bench as back up PG

[Darkwaters]

Way back before electricity?

You think electricity was discovered....in 2005?

[Spurs9]

What number is he going to wear?

[Ignazzz]

3 like 3 months with spurs

[TD 21]

Castle should start and CP3 off the bench as back up PG

Obviously Paul wouldn't have agreed to come here if he wasn't guaranteed to start.

Besides, if they did it your way, that would squeeze Jones, one of the three positive impact players they had last season, out of the rotation.

[BackHome]

You don’t draft a player with the 4th pick to not start at this point Paul is 40 years old I think he will be cool to come of the bench.

[Duncan2177]

If Paul wanted to come off the bench he would've signed with the Clippers.

[offset formation]

If Paul wanted to come off the bench he would've signed with the Clippers.

yup. he's not coming here to sit. He's wanting to watch his assist numbers go through the roof with easy buckets for Wemby.

[BackHome]

Start or not start Castle will and should get the majority of minutes as Paul is not long a Spur

[Knoxxx]

Paul already came off the bench for GSW. Having Paul and Castle as part of the guard rotation is a much better problem than we had.

[The Truth #6]

I'm sure they will find an awkward middle ground, like starting Castle and Paul, and then when Paul goes out at the 6 minute mark, Castle switches to the 1 and Tre comes in to do nothing.

[skin27]

Obviously Paul wouldn't have agreed to come here if he wasn't guaranteed to start.

Besides, if they did it your way, that would squeeze Jones, one of the three positive impact players they had last season, out of the rotation.

Castle is a 4th pick. He should start and 40 year old cp3 should come off the bench.. i think cp3 come of the bench when he was with the warriors.

[TD 21]

Castle is a 4th pick. He should start and 40 year old cp3 should come off the bench.. i think cp3 come of the bench when he was with the warriors.

That doesn't mean much, especially in a draft like this. Amen Thompson, the 4th pick in '23 and a better (prospect, at least) version of Castle didn't start last season nor play much PG.

What I'd argue is the greatest pure PG of all time isn't coming to a bottom feeder to backup some rookie combo guard, who isn't exactly some all time prospect.

[Mr. Body]

My gut is that as soon as Castle looks like he's ready, we'll see this lineup:

Paul
Castle
Vassell
Sochan
Wembanyama

The sg/sf positions can be labelled any way you'd like. I see Castle as facilitating more than Vassell, who will be more off-ball, so where they occupy and use the court matters in how I name them, with consideration for defensive role.

[ace3g]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GR6dHQlbUAAjJ7C?format=jpg&name=large

[SpursFan86]

1810064075654611438

Fucking hell, social media team couldn’t take the 5 minutes to photoshop a Spurs jersey before posting this? :lmao

[Mr. Body]

If Paul wanted to come off the bench he would've signed with the Clippers.

The Clippers are very likely not making the playoffs. Paul gets to go nearly anywhere he wants with this deal, if they work out a cut.

[Obstructed_View]

1810064075654611438

Fucking hell, social media team couldn’t take the 5 minutes to photoshop a Spurs jersey before posting this? :lmao

Or to, you know, get a photo of him in a Spurs jersey. That's embarrassing.

[ace3g]

https://x.com/NBAJPN/status/1810073777629512173

[NASpurs]

1810064075654611438

Fucking hell, social media team couldn’t take the 5 minutes to photoshop a Spurs jersey before posting this? :lmao

:lol we have the worst social media team

It's probably ran by the guy who used to play "Get Ready for This" for 15 years. Shit was still being played in 2005.

[Tyronn Lue]

:lol we have the worst social media team

It's probably ran by the guy who used to play "Get Ready for This" for 15 years. Shit was still being played in 2005.
The same team probably who put "Wembanyana" on Victor's jersey.

[MannyIsGod]

1810064075654611438

Fucking hell, social media team couldn’t take the 5 minutes to photoshop a Spurs jersey before posting this? :lmao

lmao this is so bad

[baseline bum]

https://x.com/NBAJPN/status/1810073777629512173

ごめんな、俺シコってたんだよ

[mystargtr34]

The same team probably who put "Wembanyana" on Victor's jersey.

Mark Jones must have bought that jersey tbh

[scott]

Didn't realize until just now that last season, tiny PG Chris Paul was a significantly better rebounder (5.3/36) than full size PF Harrison Barnes (3.8/36).

[scott]

1810064075654611438

Fucking hell, social media team couldn’t take the 5 minutes to photoshop a Spurs jersey before posting this? :lmao

Graphic design is my passion

[pookenstein]

Most likely they didn't put him in a jersey, because it's not clear which number he'll wear.

[Ice009]

Most likely they didn't put him in a jersey, because it's not clear which number he'll wear.

Well, that is a solid point, but based on him not wanting to go to Miami because he'd have to give up number 3, they still could have used number 3. Good call, though, as you're probably right. It's the only thing (other than incompetence) that makes sense as to why they left the GSW picture instead.

[playblair]

:lol we have the worst social media team

It's probably ran by the guy who used to play "Get Ready for This" for 15 years. Shit was still being played in 2005.
spurs social media girl left because san antonio was boring & wouldnt pay her.......she then became the best social media person in the nfl with the la chargers ..........here is her work

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[baseline bum]

Graphic design is my passion

Probably the same motherfucker who designed the SATX jersey

[RC_Drunkford]

spurs social media girl left because san antonio was boring & wouldnt pay her.......she then became the best social media person in the nfl with the la chargers ..........here is her work

1656811935311200257

:pop: "Anime? That's not who we are"

[exstatic]

Paul already came off the bench for GSW. Having Paul and Castle as part of the guard rotation is a much better problem than we had.

Paul came off the bench behind Steph Curry, a HOF player, not some rookie.

[couchman]

Anyone who thinks CP3 signed with the Spurs, just to come off the bench for a losing team, is out of their minds.
Also, he is instantly our 2nd or 3rd best player, despite his age.
He will start.
But he probably won't play more than 23-25 mpg, so there are plenty of PG minutes left to be had.

[LeBowen]

As much as I dislike having Castle play off the ball, Wemby is still the #1 priority.
Having an elite passer is the best thing for Wemby, making it an easy decision to start CP3.

[slick'81]

:lol we have the worst social media team

It's probably ran by the guy who used to play "Get Ready for This" for 15 years. Shit was still being played in 2005.


https://youtu.be/w5J_N8yoHgY?si=qlgNX0Bw6K1QpqJi

[BatManu20]

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[Mugen]

I'd love for Keldon to hold #3 hostage for like a million dollars then take it back when CP0 is traded at the deadline :lol

[MannyIsGod]

Here's to hoping we can recreate what Paul did with OKC.

[scott]

I'd love for Keldon to hold #3 hostage for like a million dollars then take it back when CP0 is traded at the deadline :lol

I want Keldon to force CP3 into wearing some bullshit number like 63

[scott]

if the Spurs trade Keldon for Lauri, I hope they give Keldon a heads up so he can sell #3 to CP3 for $2mil first.

[Jordan Jackson]

Chris Paul should start. He’ll help Wemby get established with easier looks to start games - getting into a better offensive rhythm improving his overall efficiency.

We still got a few donkeys on this team that like to take over the offense. Chris will cut that shit out.

[playbonner15]

1810476943113961503

Still doesn't feel right :lol

[Tyronn Lue]

Chris Paul should start. He’ll help Wemby get established with easier looks to start games - getting into a better offensive rhythm improving his overall efficiency.

We still got a few donkeys on this team that like to take over the offense. Chris will cut that shit out.
I heard somewhere that's a blatant, commonly repeated lie.

[playbonner15]

spurs social media girl left because san antonio was boring & wouldnt pay her.......she then became the best social media person in the nfl with the la chargers ..........here is her work

1656811935311200257

This is so goood. What's the name of their social media team?

[Tyronn Lue]

1810476943113961503
You have to wonder how many of these intros he has in his collection.

[playblair]

This is so goood. What's the name of their social media team?
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[TD 21]

I get why many don't like him, but I've always been a fan and thought he's historically underrated.

Like Aldridge, he's obviously not signing here for altruistic reasons, but no matter how it turns out, I'll still always respect him for taking the plunge when very few non international players even near his stature would.

As an aside, the league mandated legit barefoot height listings a few years back (even though many are still fake), but for some reason not weight. Many, like him, are still from when they were drafted, but don't be fooled by the 175 in the press release. He's probably more like 190-195.

[Seventyniner]

I want Keldon to force CP3 into wearing some bullshit number like 63

He could wear #27 because it's 3^3. Carry on the legacy of Nicolas Laprovittola.

[RC_Drunkford]

people here talk a lot about Wemby benefitting from CP3, but y'all gon see Vassell make a huge jump in efficiency because he's finally gonna get open catch and shoot 3s. The guy was top 10 in taking contest shots last season.

[playbonner15]

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damn that's a fumble by the spurs org

[LeBowen]

Can't believe he got a chance to play for Pop?
We're going to pretend 2017 never happened?

[playblair]

damn that's a fumble by the spurs org
if anyone is wondering why spurs social media is turrible......she wrote in her blog about how spurs org gave her little resources & little support.......

[Ice009]

if anyone is wondering why spurs social media is turrible......she wrote in her blog about how spurs org gave her little resources & little support.......

Darn, that sucks. Glad she's doing well now, but she probably should have gotten more help when she was running the Spurs' social media.

[r0drig0lac]

https://x.com/Dloading/status/1810790395779109286

[Dejounte]

https://x.com/Dloading/status/1810790395779109286

Wemby’s clout around the league is top notch

[RC_Drunkford]

if anyone is wondering why spurs social media is turrible......she wrote in her blog about how spurs org gave her little resources & little support.......

no surprise, the Spurs are being run by 80-year olds. It's a miracle that they have an instagram account.

[scott]

no surprise, the Spurs are being run by 80-year olds. It's a miracle that they have an instagram account.

Certainly some of you who live in San Antonio have friends who do/have worked for SS&E. Just go ask them how things are run... they'll tell you (I've heard some doozies). It's just as dysfunctional and slow moving as any other big organization. SS&E certainly doesn't operate like a tech start up (nor should they, necessarily).

[RC_Drunkford]

Certainly some of you who live in San Antonio have friends who do/have worked for SS&E. Just go ask them how things are run... they'll tell you (I've heard some doozies). It's just as dysfunctional and slow moving as any other big organization. SS&E certainly doesn't operate like a tech start up (nor should they, necessarily).

I don't know what you are talking about, I live in Germany

[sfernald]

Anyone who thinks CP3 signed with the Spurs, just to come off the bench for a losing team, is out of their minds.
Also, he is instantly our 2nd or 3rd best player, despite his age.
He will start.
But he probably won't play more than 23-25 mpg, so there are plenty of PG minutes left to be had.

‘it’s really perfect for castle to come off the bench as backup PG and then shift over to wing at times so he will get starting level minutes.

[scott]

I don't know what you are talking about, I live in Germany

Sorry - didn't mean to imply you, was just elaborating on your comment that the Spurs are run by 80 year olds.

[ace3g]

Michael Scotto MikeAScotto
The San Antonio Spurs signed 12-time All-Star guard Chris Paul to a one-year, $12.03 million deal, which is fully guaranteed for $10.46 million and includes potential bonuses, league sources told Hoopshype
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[djohn2oo8]

Wemby’s clout around the league is top notch
A washed up CP3? This man wanna stat chase. Pop is gonna play his ass 30 minutes a game.
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[ace3g]

Number still concealed.

https://x.com/spurs/status/1811083098756632691

[Mugen]

:lol Keldon playing hardball tbh

[LeBowen]

It all adds up:

1) Traded #8 for Minnesota picks because Jazz owns their picks up until 2030.
2) Keldon's salary is equal to Markkanen's.
3) Chris Paul won't wear any number other than #3.
4) They haven't announced his number yet because then they'd need to also announce Keldon's new number.
5) No need to announce Keldon's new number if he gets traded.

It's only a matter of time. :flag:

[SpursFan86]

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/40526411/2024-nba-free-agency-best-bargain-signings-head-scratching-overpays-contracts-deals-list

CP3 is the first guy in the “Best Bargains” section of Bobby Marks’s article. Here’s what he had to say - gives a little bit of insight into the bonuses:


It would have been easy for Paul to latch on to a contending team and chase that elusive NBA championship. Instead, Paul left the Golden State Warriors and signed a one-year, $10.5 million contract to play for Hall of Fame coach Gregg Popovich and franchise player Victor Wembanyama. We can think of Paul as an extension to Popovich's coaching staff, but the 39-year-old veteran will also help on the court and in the locker room.

The Spurs last season ranked 24th in turnover percentage, 27th in turnovers per game and 28th in percentage of passes leading to a turnover, according to Second Spectrum tracking. Last season, Paul ranked behind only Tyus Jones in assist-to-turnover ratio. His 715 assists on alley-oop dunks rank most among active players.

Paul has eight sets of bonuses in his contract, including a $262K incentive if the Spurs (or the team he finishes the season with) wins 32 games or more.

[Dex]

people here talk a lot about Wemby benefitting from CP3, but y'all gon see Vassell make a huge jump in efficiency because he's finally gonna get open catch and shoot 3s. The guy was top 10 in taking contest shots last season.

I hope so, but Vassell also seems to work himself into those shots. Not sure if he feels like he is more comfortable off the dribble or just trying to be like KD, but sometimes he seems like he is trying to find the most difficult shot possible.

Hopefully having a real PG and a solid vet like Barnes around him will elevate his game too...could be the key to him breaking into the next tier.

[BSfromTX]

people here talk a lot about Wemby benefitting from CP3, but y'all gon see Vassell make a huge jump in efficiency because he's finally gonna get open catch and shoot 3s. The guy was top 10 in taking contest shots last season.

Totally agree, as well as other players too.

[Splits]

it's too bad the Spurs retired Johnny Moore's number

[The Truth #6]

Is there no separate CP3 page? Just thinking ideas...The Historic Flophouse of CP3?

[scott]

Is there no separate CP3 page? Just thinking ideas...The Historic Flophouse of CP3?

It's here: The Well-Worn Park Bench of Chris Paul (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=303962&highlight=park+bench) (link)

[Leetonidas]

I propose the Boarded Up Strip Mall State Farm Office of Chris Paul

[SpurSpike]

He cant be #30 because that belongs to Champagnie, cant be #33 either because that's Tre Jones number. We got the 3's on lock down lol.

[scott]

13 is retired, 23 is Collins, 33 is Tre, 43 and 53 should also be off-limits out of respect for all-time greats Frank Brickowski and Artis Gilmore (Surprised those aren't retired TBH.)

It's just gonna have to be #63, Cliff.

[Degoat]

Don’t know if it’s been discussed already (probably has) but CP3 gets a bonus if the spurs win more than 32 games this upcoming season.

[Seventyniner]

Don’t know if it’s been discussed already (probably has) but CP3 gets a bonus if the spurs win more than 32 games this upcoming season.

I wonder if +10 wins is the limit for what is considered "unlikely" on an incentive like that.

It's also based on the team he ends the season with, not necessarily the Spurs. If he gets traded to an even halfway decent team he will get that bonus, but if it's considered "unlikely" right now then it doesn't count against the cap.

[Dex]

I wonder if +10 wins is the limit for what is considered "unlikely" on an incentive like that.

It's also based on the team he ends the season with, not necessarily the Spurs. If he gets traded to an even halfway decent team he will get that bonus, but if it's considered "unlikely" right now then it doesn't count against the cap.

Kinda crazy the a bonus incentive like that can be based on team success, as if Paul will be single-handedly responsible for the team winning 10+ more games.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Bonus legacy points if he wears 0.

[exstatic]

Don’t know if it’s been discussed already (probably has) but CP3 gets a bonus if the spurs win more than 32 games this upcoming season.

Actually, what I read was whatever team he finishes the year with wins 32 games.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Apparently Paul has 8 different sets of bonuses. If their original plan was to get him in the Paul George trade it’s safe to say PATFO pivoted pretty damn well. Nice bit of cap maneuvering.

Meanwhile the Suns are paying $50 million (with taxes) for Josh Okogie’s contract to be a trade chip by the deadline.

[JPB]

Spurs fans last year:

CP0? Nah, washed up. 5 years too late. I hate him passionately anwayway, king flopper and whiny baby. dude is a locker room cancer, detested by his teammates. He'll teach our guys bad habbits. Don't ever want to see the guy with a silver and black jersey (pwah!), he's the anti-spur. I mean, for the minimum maybe, if he accepts to come from the bench.

Spurs sign Paul for 10M (and a starting job)
.
Love it! He'll do wonders for the younger guys... Everyone's gonna benefit from his mere presence in the locker room.

[exstatic]

Spurs fans last year:

CP0? Nah, washed up. 5 years too late. I hate him passionately anwayway, king flopper and whiny baby. dude is a locker room cancer, detested by his teammates. He'll teach our guys bad habbits. Don't ever want to see the guy with a silver and black jersey (pwah!), he's the anti-spur. I mean, for the minimum maybe, if he accepts to come from the bench.

Spurs sign Paul for 10M (and a starting job)
.
Love it! He'll do wonders for the younger guys... Everyone's gonna benefit from his mere presence in the locker room.

CP 2023 - $30M
CP 2024 - $10M + tiny bonuses

[SpurSpike]

Wonder how legit this is... CP8? 8 is basically a 3 with some extra on the side lol. If it is legit, I guess we are keeping Keldon around.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSN52ETWUAAsX67?format=jpg&name=small

[widowmaker]

Man why couldn’t the lakers sign him instead?

[Mr. Body]

Wonder how legit this is... CP8? 8 is basically a 3 with some extra on the side lol. If it is legit, I guess we are keeping Keldon around.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSN52ETWUAAsX67?format=jpg&name=small

I think the creator said they just shopped his head onto Patty's body.

[Seventyniner]

Chris Paul must be serious about the Spurs indeed if he isn't insisting on jersey #3. Though I think this is still probably being discussed, not necessarily in terms of trading Keldon, but instead talking to Keldon and seeing what it would take for him to give it up.

[NASpurs]

Shit... if you can get either 0 or 00 then you should be able to get 03 :lol

[spurraider21]

CP 2023 - $30M
CP 2024 - $10M + tiny bonuses
ex 2024:


He’s a loser, and has never really been known as a mentor type.

ex 2023:


Oh, I definitely don't want CP3. He's a diva and an asshole who's won nothing, and would be an awful influence in the locker room.

no mention of pay :lol

[Mugen]

:lol

[Mugen]

As soon as PATFO sign off, then he's the perfect signing :lol

[JPB]

Man why couldn’t the lakers sign him instead?

I don't see the Lakers giving him 10M, probably no one in the league would have.

[spurraider21]

As soon as PATFO sign off, then he's the perfect signing :lol
best was the spin on last year's tank job.

fall: they are not tanking. pop said they want to win

winter: obviously they wanted to tank this year. its a great plan to get wemby young help via the draft!

https://gifdb.com/images/high/the-rock-wrestler-smell-qldlo7s5mgmih8e1.gif

[Spurs9]

Its a travesty that KJ isn't giving up his number.

[offset formation]

Its a travesty that KJ isn't giving up his number.

Almost certainly creates a bit of tension between those two. Paul is a pro's pro but it seems like he's also the kind to carry a grudge. Also may not be a wise decision for KJ if he wants to stick around here. it's kind of basic deferment to a vet and future HOF-er coming in.

[exstatic]

As soon as PATFO sign off, then he's the perfect signing :lol

He’s not perfect. It’s more mutual using. He uses us to get a contract he couldn’t pull from a contender and some rehab of his image perception, and we use him for his knowledge and leadership. I still maintain he won’t be on the roster after March 1st.

One of the reasons I didn’t want him last year was the fear that he’d go all Steve Smith 2002 shit attitude looking for an extension like his contract at the time. Picking him off the scrap heap is different in terms of pay and expectations.

[RC_Drunkford]

ex 2024:



ex 2023:



no mention of pay :lol

:lmao

[RC_Drunkford]

Almost certainly creates a bit of tension between those two. Paul is a pro's pro but it seems like he's also the kind to carry a grudge. Also may not be a wise decision for KJ if he wants to stick around here. it's kind of basic deferment to a vet and future HOF-er coming in.

"tension" :lol I don't know why y'all always gotta make up weird shit in y'all heads

1811784285843578909

[rjv]

"tension" :lol I don't know why y'all always gotta make up weird shit in y'all heads

1811784285843578909

sometimes ST has the narrative tone of a gaggle of old women spreading gossip.

[scott]

Almost certainly creates a bit of tension between those two. Paul is a pro's pro but it seems like he's also the kind to carry a grudge. Also may not be a wise decision for KJ if he wants to stick around here. it's kind of basic deferment to a vet and future HOF-er coming in.

Will be interesting to see how many Keldon buckets get assisted by CP3. I'll set the over/under at 2. :lol

[scott]

ex 2024:



ex 2023:



no mention of pay :lol

Need a Sniffer HOF thread for these kinds of posts

[Tyronn Lue]

The jersey thing gives Chris the opportunity to sell another jersey to his die hard fans.

[heyheymymy]

Apparently Paul has 8 different sets of bonuses.


Wonder how legit this is... CP8? 8 is basically a 3 with some extra on the side lol.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSN52ETWUAAsX67?format=jpg&name=small

[JPB]

Wonder how legit this is... CP8? 8 is basically a 3 with some extra on the side lol. If it is legit, I guess we are keeping Keldon around.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSN52ETWUAAsX67?format=jpg&name=small

Tell how confident PATFO is for next year... 32 wins.

[DPG21920]

I always respected cp game but hated him as a player due to his on court bull sh*t. I still don’t think he moves the needle on wins all that much but I do love the mentoring aspect and think it was a great move in that context (and it’s a one year deal so that’s aces )

[ambchang]

Surprised no one mentioned the rap he pulled as the union rep yet.

[Seventyniner]

Surprised no one mentioned the rap he pulled as the union rep yet.

The next CBA will exempt the Spurs from all apron penalties.

[CGD]

Tell how confident PATFO is for next year... 32 wins.

Very telling indeed. But what’s more hilarious is what’s 250k to a guy like Chris Paul?

[ace3g]

CP3 already fitting in �� #SummerLeague #Spurs #NBA #Basketball #NBAon... | chris paul spurs | TikTok (https://www.tiktok.com/@espn/video/7391288891157876010)

[ismael-robert]

Tell how confident PATFO is for next year... 32 wins.

Means nothing. They Want a low number to makeup for underpaying 2. They still want a good pick so not looking for a great record

[offset formation]

sometimes ST has the narrative tone of a gaggle of old women spreading gossip.

and RC_Drunkford

My comment was made based on someone above saying CP3 was gonna have to change his numbers. I made the assumption from that Keldon wasn't gonna give it up. Gossip/drama ain't my bag --

[Dex]

Chris Paul must be serious about the Spurs indeed if he isn't insisting on jersey #3. Though I think this is still probably being discussed, not necessarily in terms of trading Keldon, but instead talking to Keldon and seeing what it would take for him to give it up.

Pop already gave KJ a free ride to an Olympic Gold, I'd say Keldon owes him one

[spurraider21]

:lol even his mural doesnt get a number

https://www.news4sanantonio.com/resources/media/b84eb94c-c8ce-4d43-9a3f-70685be6066c-medium16x9_CHRISPAULARTMURAL_CJT.0007_frame_418.jp eg

[scott]

Maybe Cliff Paul will get a symbol instead of a number, like the Artist Formerly Known as CP3

[jhfenton]

Maybe Cliff Paul will get a symbol instead of a number, like the Artist Formerly Known as CP3

He could go with III or ٣ or 三 or ३ or even CP3 for some CP3-ception.

[ace3g]

https://x.com/brhoops/status/1813948270282153992

[exstatic]

Tell how confident PATFO is for next year... 32 wins.

Actually, that bonus is tiny, so there’s no point in not paying it and in that case they’d set the bar LOW so he gets it.

[ace3g]

C9koKNYR2QZ

[heyheymymy]

Maybe instead of a jersey number it will just be a State Farm logo

[Seventyniner]

How about giving him jersey number 3! He could fit right in with the Coyote.

[Ice009]

I wouldn't mind one of those Spurs T-shirts that CP has. Love the colours he's wearing too with the shoes.

Does he still have his own line of signature shoes these days that he used to have with Jordan Brand, or was that discontinued a while ago?

[JPB]

Actually, that bonus is tiny, so there’s no point in not paying it and in that case they’d set the bar LOW so he gets it.

Let's talk about this at the end of the season. Spurs O/U is 35.5 wins for DraftKings.

If you want to be sure he gest it, just make it 20 or 25 wins.

[Ice009]

Let's talk about this at the end of the season. Spurs O/U is 35.5 wins for DraftKings.

If you want to be sure he gest it, just make it 20 or 25 wins.

Yeah, I agree. There really is no certainty we win 32 games. So I am not sure what the Spurs were doing with it. Maybe it was incentive/confidence to show Chris Paul they think he can get them well over that number?

[ambchang]

Actually, that bonus is tiny, so there’s no point in not paying it and in that case they’d set the bar LOW so he gets it.

If Paul is traded mid season to a team that ended up winning more than 32 games, which team will be responsible for the bonus, will it be prorated based on number of games or number of wins?

[exstatic]

If Paul is traded mid season to a team that ended up winning more than 32 games, which team will be responsible for the bonus, will it be prorated based on number of games or number of wins?

I think it was stated as the team he finishes the season with.

[exstatic]

Let's talk about this at the end of the season. Spurs O/U is 35.5 wins for DraftKings.

If you want to be sure he gest it, just make it 20 or 25 wins.

Then it would automatically be counted against the cap as a “likely to be achieved” bonus, instead of “unlikely to be achieved” 32 games based on last years 22 wins.

[chuck_wagon44]

Should we be concerned that his family doesn't want to move to San Antonio? I mean they lived with him in pretty much every city he played in.

I believe they stayed in Houston when he got traded to OKC but aside from that, they uprooted with him. I'm worried that maybe he wouldn't be as invested with San Antonio as previously thought. Probably will live in an apartment and just basically be here for only 1 year max.

[exstatic]

Should we be concerned that his family doesn't want to move to San Antonio? I mean they lived with him in pretty much every city he played in.

I believe they stayed in Houston when he got traded to OKC but aside from that, they uprooted with him. I'm worried that maybe he wouldn't be as invested with San Antonio as previously thought. Probably will live in an apartment and just basically be here for only 1 year max.

With the way his contract is structured as strictly a one year deal, my impression is that he’s gone by either the trade deadline, or the buyout deadline. This news does nothing to change that impression. I consider him not only a rental, but a short term rental. I DGAF how invested he is in SA, just how much he can teach the kids by either mid or late February.

[ace3g]

C9z1nKZx2zQ

[KingKev]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10130469-tmz-chris-paul-sells-california-mansion-for-15m-after-move-from-warriors-to-spurs

[gambit1990]

y’all are in for such a treat.

you’ll wish he was here with manu and timmy.

[LeBowen]

https://x.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1824988499730485406

CP0 incoming.

[exstatic]

https://x.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1824988499730485406

CP0 incoming.

Not shocked, and this kind of supports the CP3 partial season trade/release hypothesis. I think he would have only worn 3 if Keldon were traded.

[timtonymanu]

CP39

[JPB]

https://x.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1824988499730485406



I don't know, 21?

[heyheymymy]

I saw that KJ signing a #3 jersey but anyone else think that doesn't change anything?

He's just signing a jersey and all those would still be #3. Doesn't mean they won't still switch things up in 2 months. New season hasn't started yet so #3 is what he last wore.

[SpurSpike]

Listen to the audio. Keldon says "i'll be wearing #3 next year for sure"

[exstatic]

I saw that KJ signing a #3 jersey but anyone else think that doesn't change anything?

He's just signing a jersey and all those would still be #3. Doesn't mean they won't still switch things up in 2 months. New season hasn't started yet so #3 is what he last wore.


Listen to the audio. Keldon says "i'll be wearing #3 next year for sure"

[scott]

Has a free agent signing ever held out of training camp before? :lol

[heyheymymy]

I am a dumb ass thanks yall

I saw it in my feed but didn't know there was a clip where he said that, thanks yeah that def changes things

[exstatic]

I think Keldon was always going to keep it if he weren’t traded.

[John B]

Is there a precedence when a less-known player gave way to a future HOFer and switch his number?

[widowmaker]

Is there a precedence when a less-known player gave way to a future HOFer and switch his number?

Theres no reason for KJ to give up his number for a washed up CP.

[Brazil]

Theres no reason for KJ to give up his number for a washed up CP.

:lol funny you say that because KJ is the definition of washed up

[exstatic]

:lol funny you say that because KJ is the definition of washed up

Washed up means too old. KJ is 24.

[Brazil]

Washed up means too old. KJ is 24.

I know what washed up means...

[widowmaker]

I know what washed up means...


No you don’t.

[Brazil]

No you don’t.

Yes I do faggot

[widowmaker]

Yes I do faggot

And you don’t know how to spell. It’s spelled faggit, faggit.

[BacktoBasics]

If anyone asked me what it’s like over on ST. The last 6 or so posts about sum it up.

[couchman]

There's so much trash on this board, and I'm talking about the posters.

Thankfully there are enough people providing good insights and fun takes to make it worth.. but barely.
Maybe just talk basketball and ignore the idiots?

[widowmaker]

Im glad keldon is keeping his number as he should.

[Limguogolo]

Weird fact.

In French, we have the expression “de derrière les fagots”. Literally “from behind the fagots”, but “fagot” is not what you might think. A “fagot” in French is a woodpile or a bundle of stick, or, also, in English… a “faggot”. If in both languages the “fagot” and the “faggot” means exactly the same thing, as we use no more wood to heat ourselves, their primary meaning, in English as in French, has shifted towards more figurative, even familiar, meanings. In French, we therefore only use it in this expression “from behind the fagots”, which has no homophobic connotation, means, initially, something (often wine) well-preserved (not exactly “washed up”, though) and which is given from time to time. The expression, which has become more or less common, familiar and very specific, now means “preciously preserved for a particular use”, but in a sense that has become very figurative, as if to say that something came out by surprise. Both popular and literary, the expression is typical of a “popular well-spoken word”, the French “gouaille” which is impossible to translate and which, for example, made Michel Audiard a success in the cinema.

In English, you already know how the meaning has shifted.

“Fagot” and “Faggot” are therefore almost what we could describe as… “false fag” (sorry).

If you enjoyed this thread, please subscribe and take a look at my YouTube channel “Literally Weirdo-Doo-Pee-Doo, Or How Uninteresting It Is”.

[BacktoBasics]

Weird fact.

In French, we have the expression “de derrière les fagots”. Literally “from behind the fagots”, but “fagot” is not what you might think. A “fagot” in French is a woodpile or a bundle of stick, or, also, in English… a “faggot”. If in both languages the “fagot” and the “faggot” means exactly the same thing, as we use no more wood to heat ourselves, their primary meaning, in English as in French, has shifted towards more figurative, even familiar, meanings. In French, we therefore only use it in this expression “from behind the fagots”, which has no homophobic connotation, means, initially, something (often wine) well-preserved (not exactly “washed up”, though) and which is given from time to time. The expression, which has become more or less common, familiar and very specific, now means “preciously preserved for a particular use”, but in a sense that has become very figurative, as if to say that something came out by surprise. Both popular and literary, the expression is typical of a “popular well-spoken word”, the French “gouaille” which is impossible to translate and which, for example, made Michel Audiard a success in the cinema.

In English, you already know how the meaning has shifted.

“Fagot” and “Faggot” are therefore almost what we could describe as… “false fag” (sorry).

If you enjoyed this thread, please subscribe and take a look at my YouTube channel “Literally Weirdo-Doo-Pee-Doo, Or How Uninteresting It Is”.
Shut up you bundle of sticks.

[Spurs Brazil]

https://twitter.com/ScoopB/status/1825332315989725249

[exstatic]

https://twitter.com/ScoopB/status/1825332315989725249

Note: the year CP3 was in OKC, SGA shot 42% from 3. He’s never come close to that before or since. That number sticks out like a sore thumb in his stats.

[Dverde]

I think Chris Paul sees an angle that leads to him taking over for Pop and coaching Wemby in his prime years.

[The Truth #6]

I think Chris Paul sees an angle that leads to him taking over for Pop and coaching Wemby in his prime years.

Years ago I would have vomited in my mouth at that idea, but now it's fairly reasonable given the lack of quality assistant coaches in the wings. How well VW likes him will be key. Most teammates eventually sour on CP3, but we'll see.

[exstatic]

I think Chris Paul sees an angle that leads to him taking over for Pop and coaching Wemby in his prime years.

No. He saw an angle to getting a more than minimum contract, and leaving either at the trade deadline or the cut but still make the post season roster deadline. If he thought of a future here, he would have at least taken the 1+1 deal, and gotten some injury insurance. By taking the bare one year deal, he controls where or if he can be traded.

[Pauleta14]

No. He saw an angle to getting a more than minimum contract, and leaving either at the trade deadline or the cut but still make the post season roster deadline. If he thought of a future here, he would have at least taken the 1+1 deal, and gotten some injury insurance. By taking the bare one year deal, he controls where or if he can be traded.

Money matters of course, but I really think the main reason is that he wants to play/start as much as possible and be an important piece of a team.

TP was the same and even went to play for a shitty team and organisation rather than stay in SA mentoring as a bench player and stay with the same Franchise his whole career

PATFO told him he'll start imo

[exstatic]

Money matters of course, but I really think the main reason is that he wants to play/start as much as possible and be an important piece of a team.

TP was the same and even went to play for a shitty team and organisation rather than stay in SA mentoring as a bench player and stay with the same Franchise his whole career

PATFO told him he'll start imo

Oh, I’m 100% sure he’s going to start, and I’m 95% sure he’s going to be gone by the end of February. He’ll have fun here, but he’s ring chasing, and he won’t get it here on his timeframe.

[LeBowen]

Oh, I’m 100% sure he’s going to start, and I’m 95% sure he’s going to be gone by the end of February. He’ll have fun here, but he’s ring chasing, and he won’t get it here on his timeframe.

Too bad for him there aren't many good ring chasing destinations.

Celtics, Mavs, Timberwolves, OKC, Sixers and Knicks won't even consider him because they'll have way more pressing needs than a backup point guard, with Denver being the only legit contender that could use him...if they're still a legit contender after their awful offseason, that is.

Joining the likes of Cavs, Heat, Lakers, Suns would be a desperation move, with even conference finals looking unlikely.

[exstatic]

Too bad for him there aren't many good ring chasing destinations.

Celtics, Mavs, Timberwolves, OKC, Sixers and Knicks won't even consider him because they'll have way more pressing needs than a backup point guard, with Denver being the only legit contender that could use him...if they're still a legit contender after their awful offseason, that is.

Joining the likes of Cavs, Heat, Lakers, Suns would be a desperation move, with even conference finals looking unlikely.

I think OKC would absolutely consider him. SGA has mad respect for him, and he had a good last go around there.

[Spurs Homer]

pretty sure if paul was ring chasing he would not have wasted his 39th year of his life with the spurs...as there are just not many years left in his career...

not buying this - "he will be gone in 6 months" fantasy...

I'll just take him at his word - he wants to play and feels like he can still contribute - so that is good enough for me...

[exstatic]

pretty sure if paul was ring chasing he would not have wasted his 39th year of his life with the spurs...as there are just not many years left in his career...

not buying this - "he will be gone in 6 months" fantasy...

I'll just take him at his word - he wants to play and feels like he can still contribute - so that is good enough for me...

Why would he not sign a 1+1 then, and give himself some injury insurance? The ONLY reason to sign a one year deal is to control your trade status. He signs with us, gets paid decently, and either gets traded to a destination of his choice, or released,having made much more than minimum and thrown up some nice stats, and then can sign with anyone not on the second apron for minimum for the rest of the season and playoffs. It just makes too much sense.

[LeBowen]

Why would he not sign a 1+1 then, and give himself some injury insurance?

Because PATFO are naive enough to keep an injured player if that's the verbal agreement?


The ONLY reason to sign a one year deal is to control your trade status. He signs with us, gets paid decently, and either gets traded to a destination of his choice, or released,having made much more than minimum and thrown up some nice stats, and then can sign with anyone not on the second apron for minimum for the rest of the season and playoffs. It just makes too much sense.

It obviously allows him to keep his options open, but I don't think it's a foregone conclusion he'll surely leave before the deadline.
As I said, there aren't many top contenders that would be interested and if Spurs are close to .500 in February, there's no point in leaving for another first round exit team.

I'd say that him staying with the Spurs for two seasons is as likely as him leaving before deadline.
Starter this season, backup the next and then joins the coaching staff if he's interested.

He seems like someone too invested in basketball to not become a coach. Spurs are his by far the best option if he wants to take that route.

[Mr. Body]

No. He saw an angle to getting a more than minimum contract, and leaving either at the trade deadline or the cut but still make the post season roster deadline. If he thought of a future here, he would have at least taken the 1+1 deal, and gotten some injury insurance. By taking the bare one year deal, he controls where or if he can be traded.

In his introductory presser, CP literally said that he'd rather be playing a lot of basketball somewhere than be around his family. He said his kids 'understand.' It was... kind of odd. But clearly getting a lot of playing time is very important to him.

[Mr. Body]

Weird fact.

In French, we have the expression “de derrière les fagots”. Literally “from behind the fagots”, but “fagot” is not what you might think. A “fagot” in French is a woodpile or a bundle of stick, or, also, in English… a “faggot”. If in both languages the “fagot” and the “faggot” means exactly the same thing, as we use no more wood to heat ourselves, their primary meaning, in English as in French, has shifted towards more figurative, even familiar, meanings. In French, we therefore only use it in this expression “from behind the fagots”, which has no homophobic connotation, means, initially, something (often wine) well-preserved (not exactly “washed up”, though) and which is given from time to time. The expression, which has become more or less common, familiar and very specific, now means “preciously preserved for a particular use”, but in a sense that has become very figurative, as if to say that something came out by surprise. Both popular and literary, the expression is typical of a “popular well-spoken word”, the French “gouaille” which is impossible to translate and which, for example, made Michel Audiard a success in the cinema.

In English, you already know how the meaning has shifted.

“Fagot” and “Faggot” are therefore almost what we could describe as… “false fag” (sorry).

If you enjoyed this thread, please subscribe and take a look at my YouTube channel “Literally Weirdo-Doo-Pee-Doo, Or How Uninteresting It Is”.

What I've always heard is that 'faggot,' meaning sticks of wood, were what gay people were burnt on in Britain (or elsewhere). I'm not sure how true that is, but it's ascribed as the reason why the meaning leapt from what is burned to who is burned. In Britain, the phrase "smoking a fag" was well-known for "smoking a cigarette," in their peculiar way of rhyming/associating meaning, a cigarette burning like a hunk of wood.

On the continent, I believe, the older meaning of the word is still very prevalent and no homophobia has snuck in. In German, the word Fagott means "bassoon," as in the musical instrument.

[exstatic]

Because PATFO are naive enough to keep an injured player if that's the verbal agreement?



It obviously allows him to keep his options open, but I don't think it's a foregone conclusion he'll surely leave before the deadline.
As I said, there aren't many top contenders that would be interested and if Spurs are close to .500 in February, there's no point in leaving for another first round exit team.

I'd say that him staying with the Spurs for two seasons is as likely as him leaving before deadline.
Starter this season, backup the next and then joins the coaching staff if he's interested.

He seems like someone too invested in basketball to not become a coach. Spurs are his by far the best option if he wants to take that route.
We’ll have to agree to disagree on this. I see things that point to <= to one year, and nothing pointing to multiple seasons.

While the Spurs may be his best route to coaching, I’m not sure he’s theirs. Having worn out his welcome everywhere as a player, he may be like AJ, who had the knowledge to coach, but always lost the locker room with his disposition.

[Pauleta14]

Oh, I’m 100% sure he’s going to start, and I’m 95% sure he’s going to be gone by the end of February. He’ll have fun here, but he’s ring chasing, and he won’t get it here on his timeframe.

So you expect us to tank again?

Because if we're not, we'll be in PO position by then, why leave then? Just to potentially play against us in the POs?

I think CP is here to play 1st (highly important imo), ride Wemby's coattail and prepare his post career with a coach he admires and wants to learn from.

[exstatic]

So you expect us to tank again?

Because if we're not, we'll be in PO position by then, why leave then? Just to potentially play against us in the POs?

I think CP is here to play 1st (highly important imo), ride Wemby's coattail and prepare his post career with a coach he admires and wants to learn from.

+20 wins would be a huge leap, and would have left us 4 games short of even the play in last year. It’s not playoffs or tank. I think they’re ready to make that Houston leap from last year this year.

[MultiTroll]

We’ll have to agree to disagree on this. I see things that point to <= to one year, and nothing pointing to multiple seasons.
Is it known who has the option to keep or trade at midseason? Or another of Pop Pets buyout?
Please tell me Grandpa dipstick did not give CP0 a no trade option.

[spurraider21]

keldon johnson is many things. reasons to be skeptical of his long term fit, whether he can find room to succeed as a starter, etc

washed up is not among those things :lol

[exstatic]

Is it known who has the option to keep or trade at midseason? Or another of Pop Pets buyout?
Please tell me Grandpa dipstick did not give CP0 a no trade option.

A one year contract is a mini no trade clause. The player has the right to approve or veto any trade. The Spurs may not have given it to him, it may have been a condition for him to sign.

[exstatic]

keldon johnson is many things. reasons to be skeptical of his long term fit, whether he can find room to succeed as a starter, etc

washed up is not among those things :lol

I’m looking for him to return to his higher shooting numbers from earlier in his career when he didn’t have to get his own shots. I posted that SGA shot 42% from three In his one year with CP, and never came close to that number before or since, not even with Chip coaching him.

[R. DeMurre]

Chris Paul is literally my least favorite player in the NBA, but I'm completely reconciled to the idea of him being a mentor for most of a season before he's shipped out to a contender for assets. The PG of the future isn't here yet, and he'll be a good place holder who can benefit the young guys. Sometimes you have to make alliances in the pragmatic world that aren't aesthetically pleasing... so, in other words, CP0 is kinda like Stalin. :lol

[MultiTroll]

A one year contract is a mini no trade clause. The player has the right to approve or veto any trade.
Huh? Is this all NBA teams and players?
Regardless of what Pop and Pet Paul agreed to.

[LeBowen]

The PG of the future isn't here yet

I can't wait for Castle to prove all the doubters wrong.

[exstatic]

Huh? Is this all NBA teams and players?
Regardless of what Pop and Pet Paul agreed to.

It’s in the CBA.

[Limguogolo]

For me, there are two possibilities (and one and the other are not necessarily incompatible, at least in CP's mind).

Either, Paul makes a bet that SA can be a serious contender within two years, and it will then inevitably be one. Either, by dint of traveling in search of a ring, he has definitively given up on winning a title and wants to return to being the fan he was when he was 15 years old. We saw last year that he practically behaved like a fan with Wemby. This was not the behavior of a competitor. It's more a sign for me that he has come to terms with the idea that he won't have a title, and as long as he misses the ring, he wants to get closer to the one he thinks represents the future of his sport. He wouldn't have a ring then, but he would one day have the satisfaction of saying that he was at the moment when it all began, and that at his level he participated in a new dynasty. (And who knows, if he has any desire to become a coach, we know that a place will become available in the medium term.)

It would be a form of renunciation. Personally, I admire people who have a dream and who know how to face their (relative) failures by setting new goals to achieve. I find it less pathetic than going around the league looking like you'd be ready to adjust your skirt and go out at night to lug your pain and broken dreams onto a gloomy sidewalk singing at 40 “I'm still beautiful, one day, I will be a movie star”.

[Brazil]

keldon johnson is many things. reasons to be skeptical of his long term fit, whether he can find room to succeed as a starter, etc

washed up is not among those things :lol

:lol he is playing like one tho

[Pauleta14]

+20 wins would be a huge leap, and would have left us 4 games short of even the play in last year. It’s not playoffs or tank. I think they’re ready to make that Houston leap from last year this year.

If you take away the 1st absurd month, the games almost purposely lost with BS rotations and passive coaching or Wemby's limited minutes, it's really about a dozen games at most (less imo) in terms of true level.

Then you add a real PG and 2 valuable vets, THE 2 main weaknesses of the previous roster and it's not unrealistic to reach the PO imo, espacially if post ASG teams start soft tanking for THE draft

Having a PO exp before being a real contender would be very valuable. Wemby (and the others I'm sure) want(s) to taste it

[R. DeMurre]

I can't wait for Castle to prove all the doubters wrong.


I like Castle's potential, but I don't think he'll be the starting PG of the Spurs in 2027.

[tonight...you]

I like Castle's potential, but I don't think he'll be the starting PG of the Spurs in 2027.
I think he will, but we all have our imperfect opinions. Mine included.

[buttsR4rebounding]

So you expect us to tank again?

Because if we're not, we'll be in PO position by then, why leave then? Just to potentially play against us in the POs?

I think CP is here to play 1st (highly important imo), ride Wemby's coattail and prepare his post career with a coach he admires and wants to learn from.

When Pop finally retires the Spurs will have their pick of coaches. The Spurs will be the #1 choice of every available coach. The chance to coach Wemby in his prime will be too much to pass up. I’m hoping Hurley throws his name in the hat. Paul as an assistant coach, sure. But not as head coach.

[JPB]

I don't believe this team is even close to make the POs next year, and it's not a 38, washed up Paul or rookie Castle who are gonna change anything to that. And it's not just about us, but also the concurrence.

Vegas have them around 35 wins, and I'd tempted to go for the under if you consider they're certainly gonna join the tank fiesta after the ASG.

[Tyronn Lue]

It’s in the CBA.
Didn't even know Paul played in Canada :/

[heyheymymy]

LOL

https://i.redd.it/6excpgyl8gkd1.png

[tonight...you]

HA HA HA!!!
WHAT!?

[MultiTroll]

Has Clifford Paul got a secret side we don't know about? :lol

[exstatic]

Fake
Account

Sharms (with an r) Charania

[lefty20]

Pretty sure 69 is a banned number. Exactly for the reasons you'd think.

[baseline bum]

Pretty sure 69 is a banned number. Exactly for the reasons you'd think.

Rodman asked for it when he went to Chicago. Stern told him no fucking way.

[John B]

I suspect Keldon was annoyed at the thought of giving up his number to CP(?). Already Keldon was asked to play 6th, then the thought of giving up jerseys number to a new player regardless if it were a future HOFer. But to think that Chris Paul is much known as CP3 and would be forced to change at this point of his career. I suspect it affects the relationship between the two players some.

[KingKev]

I suspect Keldon was annoyed at the thought of giving up his number to CP(?). Already Keldon was asked to play 6th, then the thought of giving up jerseys number to a new player regardless if it were a future HOFer. But to think that Chris Paul is much known as CP3 and would be forced to change at this point of his career. I suspect it affects the relationship between the two players some.

I doubt that it is this deep. If CP3 wanted the number so badly he probably could have thrown 10k at him like most guys do.

[stnick2261]

I'm sure Chris Paul knows that he already has an established brand of CP3 and 6 months is not going to hurt that, whereas Keldon is just getting started with his KJ3 brand and having to change so early in his career would seriously hurt that.

[KingKev]

There is a KJ3 brand? :lol I’d rather rock Derek Anderson’s
“Loyalty B4 Dishonour” tbh haha I can’t even find a google image but those early 2000’s bike jackets were turrrible

[stnick2261]

There is a KJ3 brand? :lol I’d rather rock Derek Anderson’s
“Loyalty B4 Dishonour” tbh haha I can’t even find a google image but those early 2000’s bike jackets were turrrible

It's right here. It's definitely not established, but it's there.


KJ looking very slim in this clip

C--5gLDROSb

[Leetonidas]

There is a KJ3 brand? :lol I’d rather rock Derek Anderson’s
“Loyalty B4 Dishonour” tbh haha I can’t even find a google image but those early 2000’s bike jackets were turrrible

His brand is mostly marketed in China I think :lol

Vassell has his own clothing brand now also

[KingKev]

It's right here. It's definitely not established, but it's there.

I wonder if that Coach Pop shirt was his brand? Probably the only merch he could actually sell lol

[stnick2261]

It looks like that Logo was submitted to trademark last November (still pending) using an LLC that was also formed last November; using an attorney from Las Vegas.

https://uspto.report/TM/98282291

[KingKev]

It looks like that Logo was submitted to trademark last November (still pending) using an LLC that was also formed last November; using an attorney from Las Vegas.

https://uspto.report/TM/98282291

Damn all them bootleggers must be pissed!!!

[KingKev]

His brand is mostly marketed in China I think :lol

Vassell has his own clothing brand now also

Hahah Imagine getting DV merch for your bday from your uncle that is on a 120mm contract.

[KingKev]

Wow I’m just thinking out loud here but what if DV x KJ did a “Dual Tank Commanders” collab to honour Wemby?!? I’d rock that.

[BatManu20]

Pretty sure 69 is a banned number. Exactly for the reasons you'd think.

Correct. It's the only banned double-digit number in the NBA :lol

[BatManu20]

Chris Paul is literally my least favorite player in the NBA, but I'm completely reconciled to the idea of him being a mentor for most of a season before he's shipped out to a contender for assets. The PG of the future isn't here yet, and he'll be a good place holder who can benefit the young guys. Sometimes you have to make alliances in the pragmatic world that aren't aesthetically pleasing... so, in other words, CP0 is kinda like Stalin. :lol

Seconded. Can't stand Chris Paul tbh. One of ,y most hated players ever. That's not going to change, but I'll take his mentorship for the young guns for a few months, especially if he's flipped for assets before the trade deadline. Probably won't get much for him though tbh. He's getting pretty close to being washed.

[exstatic]

Seconded. Can't stand Chris Paul tbh. One of ,y most hated players ever. That's not going to change, but I'll take his mentorship for the young guns for a few months, especially if he's flipped for assets before the trade deadline. Probably won't get much for him though tbh. He's getting pretty close to being washed.

I think it’s about extracting mentorship and knowledge. He’s going to want to go to a contender, and most of them don’t have shit for assets. The likely return would be a 56-60 protected second and a matching ending contract.

[baseline bum]

There is a KJ3 brand? :lol I’d rather rock Derek Anderson’s
“Loyalty B4 Dishonour” tbh haha I can’t even find a google image but those early 2000’s bike jackets were turrrible

Never did see if I won his coloring contest.

[KingKev]

I think it’s about extracting mentorship and knowledge. He’s going to want to go to a contender, and most of them don’t have shit for assets. The likely return would be a 56-60 protected second and a matching ending contract.

Also a very usable contract in a larger trade. Could see him being moved and subsequently bought out.

[heyheymymy]

Paul should do CP4 since he was a #4 overall pick

[mudyez]

C3PO...#30

[exstatic]

C3PO...#30

He’ll have to buy it from Champagnie

[Dex]

His brand is mostly marketed in China I think :lol

Vassell has his own clothing brand now also

I love KJ, but come on...you ain't a brand.

Neither is Vassell.

These dudes need to win something before they can act like they've earned it.

Since Keldon Johnson joined the Spurs in 2019, they have gone 143 wins and 246 losses.

That's not all entirely his fault, but ain't nobody out there trying to rep their Keldon Johnson gear.

[Seventyniner]

I love KJ, but come on...you ain't a brand.

Neither is Vassell.

These dudes need to win something before they can act like they've earned it.

Since Keldon Johnson joined the Spurs in 2019, they have gone 143 wins and 246 losses.

That's not all entirely his fault, but ain't nobody out there trying to rep their Keldon Johnson gear.

Some Chinese company offers them a bag and they're supposed to turn it down?

[Dex]

Some Chinese company offers them a bag and they're supposed to turn it down?

I ain't gonna tell anybody how to go about their business. Get that money while you can.

Just saying, if I saw that logo on the streets of San Antonio...I would have no idea what the hell it stands for.

[Chinook]

It’s in the CBA.

It's not. Apologies if someone already jumped in here. Paul doesn't have veto power because he won't have Bird or EB rights after this contract ends. If Paul makes it through this year and re-signs to another one-year deal, he would then have veto power. He would in fact have that even if he signed a one-and-one deal. He didn't get a player option either because he didn't want one or the Spurs weren't willing to give him one, not so he could block trades. He can't do that.

[scott]

I love KJ, but come on...you ain't a brand.

Neither is Vassell.

These dudes need to win something before they can act like they've earned it.

Since Keldon Johnson joined the Spurs in 2019, they have gone 143 wins and 246 losses.

That's not all entirely his fault, but ain't nobody out there trying to rep their Keldon Johnson gear.

Honestly, I bet Mamu could start a budget brand and outsell both KJ and Dev in Tajikistan or wherever the fuck he’s from

[Joseph Kony]

They should let him wear 03 tbh. if teams can have players wear both 0 and 00 (which is fucking stupid) then they should let him have 03, imho