ESPN’s top 25 NBA players of the 21st century

[JohnnyMax]

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/40616441/ranking-top-25-nba-players-21st-century

1. LeBron James
2. Kobe Bryant
3. Stephen Curry
4. Tim Duncan
5. Shaquille O'Neal
6. Kevin Garnett
7. Nikola Jokic
8. Dwyane Wade
9. Kevin Durant
10. Dirk Nowitzki
11. Giannis Antetokounmpo
12. Steve Nash
13. James Harden
14. Jason Kidd
15. Chris Paul
16. Kawhi Leonard
17. Manu Ginobili
18. Allen Iverson
19. Anthony Davis
20. Ray Allen
21. Tony Parker
22. Draymond Green
23. Russell Westbrook
24. Pau Gasol
25. Luka Doncic

[Tyronn Lue]

Summary. Best Laker of the 21st century = Lebron James

[FrostKing]

Don't quite make sense. Duncan or Curry should be in the Top2.

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Summary. Best Laker of the 21st century = Lebron James

I still get a kick at him furiously stewing over whether to take that 17th down from the NBA Shelf, or, not. tee, hee.

"He chose wisely." -White man.

Then..."Shut up and dribble! And make me turkey pot pie!" Whack!!!

[horseshue]

WTF is raymond doing there?

[ambchang]

Poor Chauncey billups.

[Tyronn Lue]

Don't quite make sense. Duncan or Curry should be in the Top2.
Tim's 1st ring was in 1999 season. Kobe has 5 rings since 2000. KD changed Curry's legacy.

[ambchang]

Where is Paul Pierce?

Also, it’s interesting that the entire list only has two players whove won more than one ring without another player on this list.

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Where is Paul Pierce?

Also, it’s interesting that the entire list only has two players whove won more than one ring without another player on this list.

Artest froze him on that fake drive back from '10.

He ain't thawed yet, amb.

[MultiTroll]

Nevermind.

Thank you.

[FrostKing]

Tony Parker #21

Ouch

[FrostKing]

Enough Anthony Davis


Best of Rest
Rose
Billups
Wallace
Bosh
Howard

[ambchang]

Artest froze him on that fake drive back from '10.

He ain't thawed yet, amb.

Pierce should have a spot anything 18 down. Underrated

[DAF86]

Tim's 1st ring was in 1999 season. Kobe has 5 rings since 2000. KD changed Curry's legacy.

Duncan still won 2 regular season MVPs and 4 rings as the best player on his team compared to Kobe's 1 (robbed CP3) and 2 respectively. Duncan pretty easily ahead of Kobe.

Curry and Shaq the same thing.

It should be:

1-Lebron
2-Duncan
3-Curry
4-Shaq

And then the rest.

[FkLA]

Idk which is more egregious, Kirby at 2 or Donkey at 22

[Thread]

Idk which is more egregious, Kirby at 2 or Donkey at 22


...you ever failing to stop the Suns from getting thru.

[Arcadian]

Well that's incorrect. Try again next time, ESPN.

[TD 21]

Enough Anthony Davis


Best of Rest
Rose
Billups
Wallace
Bosh
Howard

Easy selection for the most underappreciated player of his generation.

McGrady had the highest peak, but Pierce and Howard were clearly the most egregious snubs and it's obvious why (not justifying it): The former had a messy breakup with BSPN and the latter has had off court legal issues.

[daslicer]

Death really boosted Kobe's legacy. Prior to death he was not even considered a top 10 player all time now there are lists ranking him as high as number 2. Any list that has Draymond in the top 25 is garbage. Might as well include Robert Horry on the top 25 list if you are going put Draymond since he was also a high-end role player that won 5 rings during the 21st century.

[Thread]

Death really boosted Kobe's legacy. Prior to death he was not even considered a top 10 player all time now there are lists ranking him as high as number 2. Any list that has Draymond in the top 25 is garbage. Might as well include Robert Horry on the top 25 list if you are going put Draymond since he was also a high-end role player that won 5 rings during the 21st century.

Well, he'd raped, but after that deathly hillside collision rape was of nary consequence. It was like it'd had never happened.

But MSM will revisit said rape in the near to middlin' future when a fresh dollar and a brand new dime can be gleaned from it. All the major affiliates along the line will join in with hushed, serious tones about it, moderating the rape with the hillside collision still details. They'll make a fortune!

[Rummpd]

ESPN top 75 put out just a couple years ago Duncan 8 and Kobe 9 and Curry behind that. This does not make any sense at all.

[ambchang]

Well, he'd raped, but after that deathly hillside collision rape was of nary consequence. It was like it'd had never happened.

But MSM will revisit said rape in the near to middlin' future when a fresh dollar and a brand new dime can be gleaned from it. All the major affiliates along the line will join in with hushed, serious tones about it, moderating the rape with the hillside collision still details. They'll make a fortune!

The rape was forgotten the second the lakers won a title in 09.

[Thread]

The rape was forgotten the second the lakers won a title in 09.

Please. That's when MSM doubled down on it. "Kobe won, but, the shadow of rape lingers."

Made a fortune!

[ambchang]

Please. That's when MSM doubled down on it. "Kobe won, but, the shadow of rape lingers."

Made a fortune!

Show me, Kobe was exonerated the second he won. The rape was getting minimized when the Lakers got MVPau and started to be good again.

Endorsement https://www.celebritynetworth.com/articles/sports-news/kobe-bryant-made-serious-money-since-started-playing-basketball/

1997 – $1 million
1998 – $1 million
1999 – $2 million
2000 – $9 million
2001 – $9 million
2002 – $10 million
2003 – $10 million
2004 – $13 million (Raped, minimal impact)
2005 – $13 million
2006 – $13 million
2007 – $15 million
2008 – $15 million
2009 – $20 million (Got MVPau in 2008 season, $5M payday)
2010 – $20 million
2011 – $20 million
2012 – $30 million
2013 – $28 million
2014 – $26 million

[Thread]

Show me, Kobe was exonerated the second he won. The rape was getting minimized when the Lakers got MVPau and started to be good again.

Endorsement https://www.celebritynetworth.com/articles/sports-news/kobe-bryant-made-serious-money-since-started-playing-basketball/

1997 – $1 million
1998 – $1 million
1999 – $2 million
2000 – $9 million
2001 – $9 million
2002 – $10 million
2003 – $10 million
2004 – $13 million (Raped, minimal impact)
2005 – $13 million
2006 – $13 million
2007 – $15 million
2008 – $15 million
2009 – $20 million (Got MVPau in 2008 season, $5M payday)
2010 – $20 million
2011 – $20 million
2012 – $30 million
2013 – $28 million
2014 – $26 million

The rape was minimized only after he augered in.

[ambchang]

The rape was minimized only after he augered in.

You can say what you want, but media was fawning over him during the Olympics when the #metoo movement was in full swing.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Show me, Kobe was exonerated the second he won. The rape was getting minimized when the Lakers got MVPau and started to be good again.

Endorsement https://www.celebritynetworth.com/articles/sports-news/kobe-bryant-made-serious-money-since-started-playing-basketball/

1997 – $1 million
1998 – $1 million
1999 – $2 million
2000 – $9 million
2001 – $9 million
2002 – $10 million
2003 – $10 million
2004 – $13 million (Raped, minimal impact)
2005 – $13 million
2006 – $13 million
2007 – $15 million
2008 – $15 million
2009 – $20 million (Got MVPau in 2008 season, $5M payday)
2010 – $20 million
2011 – $20 million
2012 – $30 million
2013 – $28 million
2014 – $26 million

Is this a pro or anti-Kobe post?:lol

[Donald Sterling.]

It was all fine and dandy when ESPN had Kobe at #12 all time. Spurfan had a blast with that one.

Now ESPN bad :lol

[FrostKing]

1. Duncan

Best player since MJ. Could turn anyone anytime into a Champion

[ambchang]

Is this a pro or anti-Kobe post?:lol

Neither.

[ambchang]

It was all fine and dandy when ESPN had Kobe at #12 all time. Spurfan had a blast with that one.

Now ESPN bad :lol

Then Kobe somehow leapfrogged everyone and the only thing he did was killing his leg and a bunch of innocent people, including his daughter. Sickening.

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Then Kobe somehow leapfrogged everyone and the only thing he did was killing his leg and a bunch of innocent people, including his daughter. Sickening.

Please. You was never happier* till that day he in augered in.

*denotes augering in like 24 hours before his first NBA game.

[ambchang]

Please. You was never happier* till that day he in augered in.

*denotes augering in like 24 hours before his first NBA game.

I felt horrible for the kids.

[Thread]

I felt horrible for the kids.

My ass. Those children getting killed made the spot for ya.

[ambchang]

My ass. Those children getting killed made the spot for ya.

Two separate ideas. And those children getting killed pushed kobe up the list. I am appalled by how the media rewarded kobe for killing innocent people, especially the kids.

[Thread]

Two separate ideas. And those children getting killed pushed kobe up the list. I am appalled by how the media rewarded kobe for killing innocent people, especially the kids.

...made a fortune!

[gambit1990]

such a dumb list :lol

kobe #2 :lmao
draymond over pau :lol

[gambit1990]

Duncan still won 2 regular season MVPs and 4 rings as the best player on his team compared to Kobe's 1 (robbed CP3) and 2 respectively. Duncan pretty easily ahead of Kobe.

Curry and Shaq the same thing.

It should be:

1-Lebron
2-Duncan
3-Curry
4-Shaq

And then the rest.
shaq #3 tbh. curry has two less rings without kd.

shaq would have the same amount of rings with prime ray allen, tracy mcgrady, manu, etc.

[Tyronn Lue]

Putting Kobe into the top 5 is like putting James Dean in the top 5 actors, both because they died young. Whatever level they were before they died is where they should remain, since they didn't get better post mortem.

[lefty]

such a dumb list :lol

kobe #2 :lmao
draymond over pau :lol
:lol I still have PTSD from the Gasol trade in 2008

Lakers were already playing good basketball that season before the trade - heck they torched us without Pau as Jordan fucking Farmar lit us up :lol

Once they got one of the best big men in the league the writing was on the wall

[Darth_Pelican]

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