Frozen Precip FYI

[MannyIsGod]

THE THREAT OF MIXED PRECIPITATION IS LOOKING MORE LIKELY FOR MUCH
OF SOUTH CENTRAL TEXAS WEDNESDAY NIGHT INTO EARLY THURSDAY.
HOWEVER, VERY LIGHT FORECAST AMOUNTS BY MODEL DATA CONTINUE TO
SUGGEST ONLY A MINOR TO MODERATE IMPACT ON TRAVEL.

SATELLITE IR IMAGERY IS PICKING UP THE ARCTIC COLD FRONT MOVING
INTO SOUTHERN OK THIS MORNING. THIS FRONT IS ON TRACK TO MAKE IT
INTO NORTHERN PARTS OF SOUTH CENTRAL TEXAS BY AROUND DAYBREAK
WEDNESDAY. THIS LARGE DENSE MASS OF AIR WILL LIKELY SPILL INTO
TEXAS IN ADVANCE OF THE UPPER LEVEL SUPPORT AS AN UPPER LOW DIGS
INTO THE CENTRAL PLAINS WEDNESDAY NIGHT. MOST OF THE HIGHER
PRECIPITATION CHANCES WILL OCCUR DURING A PERIOD OF ISENTROPIC
LIFT AND WILL LIKELY FALL AS RAIN WEDNESDAY INTO WEDNESDAY
EVENING. THIS LIFT PATTERN WILL DIMINISH BY AROUND MIDNIGHT WHEN
THE PRECIPITATION IS EXPECTED TO CHANGE OVER TO A MIX. MOST AREAS
WILL HAVE A CHANCE TO SEE A MIX OF RAIN AND ICE PELLETS. WITH THE
NORTHEASTERN HALF OF THE AREA EXPECTED TO SEE FREEZING TEMPS AND A
POSSIBLE MIX OF FREEZING RAIN AND SNOW TOWARD DAYBREAK. WITH MUCH
UNCERTAINTY IN THE AMOUNT OF INITIAL RAINFALL EXPECTED, CONFIDENCE
REMAINS LIMITED ON HOW FAST THE AIR WILL COOL. HOWEVER, GIVEN THE
TRENDS IN THE MACHINE GUIDANCE IN THE HANDLING OF THE COLD AIR,
WILL TAKE A SPLIT BETWEEN THE WARMER GFS AND THE COOLER NAM.
WILL ISSUE AN SPS SHORTLY TO ADDRESS THE THREAT OF FROZEN
PRECIPITATION.

[Marklar MM]

Hell. Come up here to Michigan. We gots the snows and 10 degree weather. The UP had -20 with windchill yesterday.

[MannyIsGod]

Fuck that, I'm tropical.

[Ishta]

Bring on old man winter!!

[Marcus Bryant]

Woo hoo. Our week of winter has arrived.

[Marklar MM]

I hope you Texans feel the fierce bitter winds of the nothern climates.

[sa_butta]

I hate cold weather.

[1369]

Handy hint for all the wonderful San Antonio drivers:

If you hit ice on a bridge/overpass, do not jump on your brakes, bad things happen.

[Marcus Bryant]

I hope you Texans feel the fierce bitter winds of the nothern climates.


Would you like 9 months of 95+ degree daytime highs?

[Marklar MM]

The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down
Of the big lake they call Gitche Gumee
The lake, it is said, never gives up her dead
When the skies of November turn gloomy.

With a load of iron ore - 26,000 tons more
Than the Edmund Fitzgerald weighed empty
That good ship and true was a bone to be chewed
When the gales of November came early

The ship was the pride of the American side
Coming back from some mill in Wisconson
As the big freighters go it was bigger than most
With a crew and the Captain well seasoned.

Concluding some terms with a couple of steel firms
When they left fully loaded for Cleveland
And later that night when the ships bell rang
Could it be the North Wind they'd been feeling.

The wind in the wires made a tattletale sound
And a wave broke over the railing
And every man knew, as the Captain did, too,
T'was the witch of November come stealing.

The dawn came late and the breakfast had to wait
When the gales of November came slashing
When afternoon came it was freezing rain
In the face of a hurricane West Wind

When supper time came the old cook came on deck
Saying fellows it's too rough to feed ya
At 7PM a main hatchway caved in
He said fellas it's been good to know ya.

The Captain wired in he had water coming in
And the good ship and crew was in peril
And later that night when his lights went out of sight
Came the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald.

Does anyone know where the love of God goes
When the words turn the minutes to hours
The searchers all say they'd have made Whitefish Bay
If they'd fifteen more miles behind her.

They might have split up or they might have capsized
They may have broke deep and took water
And all that remains is the faces and the names
Of the wives and the sons and the daughters.

Lake Huron rolls, Superior sings
In the ruins of her ice water mansion
Old Michigan steams like a young man's dreams,
The islands and bays are for sportsmen.

And farther below Lake Ontario
Takes in what Lake Erie can send her
And the iron boats go as the mariners all know
With the gales of November remembered.

In a musty old hall in Detroit they prayed
In the Maritime Sailors' Cathedral
The church bell chimed, 'til it rang 29 times
For each man on the Edmund Fitzgerald.

The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down
Of the big lake they call Gitche Gumee
Superior, they say, never gives up her dead
When the gales of November come early.

[Kip Fanatic]

I love the cold weather. Just hate to hear about all the accidents though.

[Marklar MM]

Would you like 9 months of 95+ degree daytime highs?

Either that or 5 months of freezing weather.

[MannyIsGod]

February of 04 I hit ice on 35 at abouty 6am on the way home from work. That was the time they didn't close the highways because our city government is really stupid.

It really wasn't a big deal. I let go of the gas, slid for a bit, then got traction again and proceeded on. However, that morning I passed almost 20 wrecks. People are fucking stupid.

[Horry For 3!]

That would be kick ass if it snowed like last year.

[MannyIsGod]

I'll take the hot summers.

[MannyIsGod]

That would be kick ass if it snowed like last year.
This isn't going to be snow.

[Marcus Bryant]

You don't have to shovel the heat, you can dress down not up. You don't have to worry about the heat keeping you stuck indoors, etc...I guess.

[Horry For 3!]

This isn't going to be snow.
Yeah, I know but I can only hope that it snows this winter.

[Marklar MM]

Snow is fun. You can build snow forts...throw snow balls...make snow cones...make Frosty the Snowman...throw your little brother into a pile of snow...throw snow at your superiors...throw snow in front of someones door, and spray water on it.

[2Blonde]

I grew up with ice, wind and snow every year in Oklahoma in the Great Plains. I'll take good ole' SA weather any day of the week. Give me the heat, baby. :spin

[RashoFan]

Hell. Come up here to Michigan. We gots the snows and 10 degree weather. The UP had -20 with windchill yesterday.
Forget that shit...I lived in Chicago and I remember windchill of 81 below....I agree with Manny...Tropical!!!!

[RashoFan]

Handy hint for all the wonderful San Antonio drivers:

If you hit ice on a bridge/overpass, do not jump on your brakes, bad things happen.
Yeah...I get my ambulance ran from one side of the county to the other for a minor Motor Vehicle Accident....

[RashoFan]

February of 04 I hit ice on 35 at abouty 6am on the way home from work. That was the time they didn't close the highways because our city government is really stupid.

It really wasn't a big deal. I let go of the gas, slid for a bit, then got traction again and proceeded on. However, that morning I passed almost 20 wrecks. People are fucking stupid.
Same here although I was driving my Ambulance on 281S by the airport...I managed to get traction and get off the highway.To bad that SAFD had a truck slide into the gaurd rail...sucked for them that day... :rolleyes

[travis2]

I spent 4+ years in Ohio. Snow stopped being fun after the 1st week. When you're driving to work in it every day it's not fluffy and neat and fun...it's a pain in the ass.

There's a reason our normal temperature scale is in positive numbers. Negative numbers truly suck. Negative double-digit numbers suck beyond all imagination.

And then there's the wind chill. :flipoff

I'll take the tropical heat, thankyouverymuch. People who like that North Pole shit obviously have had their brains frozen.

[JoeChalupa]

The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down
Of the big lake they call Gitche Gumee
The lake, it is said, never gives up her dead
When the skies of November turn gloomy.

With a load of iron ore - 26,000 tons more
Than the Edmund Fitzgerald weighed empty
That good ship and true was a bone to be chewed
When the gales of November came early

The ship was the pride of the American side
Coming back from some mill in Wisconson
As the big freighters go it was bigger than most
With a crew and the Captain well seasoned.

Concluding some terms with a couple of steel firms
When they left fully loaded for Cleveland
And later that night when the ships bell rang
Could it be the North Wind they'd been feeling.

The wind in the wires made a tattletale sound
And a wave broke over the railing
And every man knew, as the Captain did, too,
T'was the witch of November come stealing.

The dawn came late and the breakfast had to wait
When the gales of November came slashing
When afternoon came it was freezing rain
In the face of a hurricane West Wind

When supper time came the old cook came on deck
Saying fellows it's too rough to feed ya
At 7PM a main hatchway caved in
He said fellas it's been good to know ya.

The Captain wired in he had water coming in
And the good ship and crew was in peril
And later that night when his lights went out of sight
Came the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald.

Does anyone know where the love of God goes
When the words turn the minutes to hours
The searchers all say they'd have made Whitefish Bay
If they'd fifteen more miles behind her.

They might have split up or they might have capsized
They may have broke deep and took water
And all that remains is the faces and the names
Of the wives and the sons and the daughters.

Lake Huron rolls, Superior sings
In the ruins of her ice water mansion
Old Michigan steams like a young man's dreams,
The islands and bays are for sportsmen.

And farther below Lake Ontario
Takes in what Lake Erie can send her
And the iron boats go as the mariners all know
With the gales of November remembered.

In a musty old hall in Detroit they prayed
In the Maritime Sailors' Cathedral
The church bell chimed, 'til it rang 29 times
For each man on the Edmund Fitzgerald.

The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down
Of the big lake they call Gitche Gumee
Superior, they say, never gives up her dead
When the gales of November come early.

Great song that I don't hear much down here!

I grew up in Ohio and loved the seasons.

[exstatic]

Be damn careful on your commute home tonight, peeps. The last projections I saw were for this to all stage in from 3 PM to 5 PM, and go from there. I'm already planning my alternate route in case they do close fwys.

[Extra Stout]

Either that or 5 months of freezing weather.

Texas: 6 months of uncomfortably hot weather. Auto assembly plants opening.

Michigan: 6 months of uncomfortably cold weather. Auto assembly plants closing.

[Hook Dem]

Texas: 6 months of uncomfortably hot weather. Auto assembly plants opening.

Michigan: 6 months of uncomfortably cold weather. Auto assembly plants closing.
Ain't it the truth? :lol

[samikeyp]

I hope you Texans feel the fierce bitter winds of the nothern climates.

Me too! :)

[SWC Bonfire]

February of 04 I hit ice on 35 at abouty 6am on the way home from work. That was the time they didn't close the highways because our city government is really stupid.

It really wasn't a big deal. I let go of the gas, slid for a bit, then got traction again and proceeded on. However, that morning I passed almost 20 wrecks. People are fucking stupid.

So it was the city's fault that you decided to drive home at the coldest part of the day in freezing weather? :lol

[pache100]

February of 04 I hit ice on 35 at abouty 6am on the way home from work. That was the time they didn't close the highways because our city government is really stupid.

It really wasn't a big deal. I let go of the gas, slid for a bit, then got traction again and proceeded on. However, that morning I passed almost 20 wrecks. People are fucking stupid.

On the other end of the spectrum...on February 21, 1996 the temperature in San Antonio officially reached 100 (unofficially it was 104!). Back then, Y100 played a certain song (right at the moment I can't recall which song) anytime the temperature reached 100 degrees and the first caller to report hearing the song won $100. As I was leaving work that day, the song was playing on the radio. IN FEBRUARY!!! I thought, "Oh, man! Somebody at Y100 is gonna be in big trouble for playing that song by mistake." Then, the news came on and they said it was 104 degrees! IN FEBRUARY! I knew it was hot, but I had no idea it was that hot.

[CharlieMac]

I'm suprised the city isn't shutting down now.

[desflood]

Where are you Marklar? I grew up in Michigan.

[CosmicCowboy]

Dang...I'm flying up to Dallas tomorrow to go to the NCHA Cutting in Fort Worth...ice/rain all night turning to snow in the morning and a low of 18...holy shit!...guess I better get insurance on the rental car...:lol

[Ishta]

Dang...I'm flying up to Dallas tomorrow to go to the NCHA Cutting in Fort Worth...ice/rain all night turning to snow in the morning and a low of 18...holy shit!...guess I better get insurance on the rental car...:lol
Sounds like a good idea..Just be careful driving on the high 5..Couldn't pay me enough money to drive on that thing in this kind of weather..But it sure does put me in the Christmas spirit..

[MannyIsGod]

So it was the city's fault that you decided to drive home at the coldest part of the day in freezing weather? :lol
It was the city's fault for being completely unprepared for the meterological conditions. There were no barricades, there were no sand trucks. There was nothing. The snow started much earlier that night and it was wet and immedietly turned to nothing but slush and ice.

When I drove home, it hadn't rained/snowed for over 3 hours, yet the highways were still open. I don't remember the number of accidents that morning, but I believe it was over 500 and that was for a Saturday morning when there were very few people commuting.

[MannyIsGod]

Updated Forecast To Issue A Freezing Rain Advisory For Some Of Our
Northern Counties Based On Aob Freezing Temperatures Currently Moving
South Into Llano...burnet And Williamson Counties And Radar
Currently Showing Areas Of Rain. Freezing Rain Currently Observed
At Awos/asos Sites Across Wfo Fwd`s Area With Temperatures Falling
Into The 20s. Updated Hourly Temperature Forecasts To Show Falling
Temperatures This Afternoon. Precip Still Expected To Move East
Of The I-35 Corridor By Midnight...with Only A Brief Shot At Light
Freezing Rain For The San Antonio Metro Area. Temperatures Are
Forecast To Rise Back Above Freezing Between 11 Am And 1 Pm Thursday.

[MannyIsGod]

Ah, weather nerd in effect! :lol

[CosmicCowboy]

February of 04 I hit ice on 35 at abouty 6am on the way home from work. That was the time they didn't close the highways because our city government is really stupid.

It really wasn't a big deal. I let go of the gas, slid for a bit, then got traction again and proceeded on. However, that morning I passed almost 20 wrecks. People are fucking stupid.

Yeah...I went from Callaghan and I-10 to 35 north to the SBC Center about 5:45 that morning right ahead of the road closure...It was like driving through the remnants of a demolition derby at every bridge...dozens of cars smashed...I just put it in 4WD and kept it slow and steady and never touched the brakes and got through with no problem...about 15 minute later my partner hit a bridge on the same stretch and bent the frame on his brand new HD2500...

[MannyIsGod]

Yeah, I had a super light car then, my ZX2, so I'm suprised I only slid once. It took me over an hour to get home that day.

[cherylsteele]

Forget that shit...I lived in Chicago and I remember windchill of 81 below....I agree with Manny...Tropical!!!!

Here, here...I have lived in Ohio and Virginia, loved the snow when I was a kid. I remember being out of school for nearly one straight month because of blizzards and lake effect snow.

I now hate the cold...anything below 50 degrees is too doggone cold.

When we moved here my dad said anywhere were it doesn't snow.....he said "you can't shovel heat".

[pache100]

Does anybody remember the "Blizzard of '85" in San Antonio? 13 inches of snow in a little over 24 hours. That's the most snow I have ever seen on the ground first hand. Man, talk about one paralyzed city!

And the really weird and unbelievable thing is that we'd already had a 3" snow that January, a couple of weeks earlier.

[travis2]

I was here for the 3" snow...it was the preceding week. When the big one hit, I was back in California...:cuss

Still have the commemorative booklet the SA Light put out after that...

[pache100]

I was here for the 3" snow...it was the preceding week. When the big one hit, I was back in California...:cuss

Still have the commemorative booklet the SA Light put out after that...

I'll never forget waking up that Saturday morning to that incredible QUIET, not a sound anywhere. I lived right on 1604 at the time and there was NO traffic noise, which was very unusual. And then I sat up and there was that weird eerie bright light reflecting off the snow. I jumped up and ran and looked out the window and thought, "Holy SHIT!"

One of the funniest things I have ever seen was Sunday morning 1604 being scraped by H B Zachary road graders! This city had absolutely NO snow/ice clearing equipment that could compete with 13 inches of snow! It was almost all gone by Monday morning, though. :(

[MannyIsGod]

I was 5 and I made a snow man!

[travis2]

I was 5 and I made a snow man!
:flipoff

[MannyIsGod]

:lmao

[SpursWoman]

I was here for the 3" snow...it was the preceding week. When the big one hit, I was back in California...:cuss

Still have the commemorative booklet the SA Light put out after that...

Me, too! :) :lol


I was 13 ... and got to help shovel snow off the patio roof that collapsed under all that weight. :fro

We walked around the neighborhood and took lots of pictures of all the snowmen in the front yards.

:)

[MannyIsGod]

One of my math teachers in HS had a picture of Clark covered in snow. It was a pretty surreal image.

[1369]

I was in high school during that snow and I remember Chris Marrou on the news asking folks with 4WD vehicles to call some number so they could make sure doctors and nurses got to hospitals. The neighborhood I lived in at the time had a bluff that overlooks the Salado Creek and we walked to it and everything was whitetowards downtown. Hell, I remember Johnny Carson that night showing a picture of a guy cross-country skiing in from of the Alamo and saying that San Antonio was colder that day than Anchorage.

[RashoFan]

Does anybody remember the "Blizzard of '85" in San Antonio? 13 inches of snow in a little over 24 hours. That's the most snow I have ever seen on the ground first hand. Man, talk about one paralyzed city!

And the really weird and unbelievable thing is that we'd already had a 3" snow that January, a couple of weeks earlier.
Yep I sure do,all my friends blamed me for it saying it followed us from Chicago, even though we moved here in '83. Teaxs is a big state, took the snow 2 yrs to find us...

[pache100]

Hell, I remember Johnny Carson that night showing a picture of a guy cross-country skiing in from of the Alamo and saying that San Antonio was colder that day than Anchorage.

Yeah, I remember that. I was watching a lot of television that weekend trying to combat my cabin fever...how come the time you most want to get out of the house is when you can't?

Johnny Carson had also made a remark some time before that he would get married again "when it snows in San Antonio". He didn't do it right away, but he did marry again, to Alex Maas, in 1987.

[Ishta]

Yep I sure do,all my friends blamed me for it saying it followed us from Chicago, even though we moved here in '83. Teaxs is a big state, took the snow 2 yrs to find us...
That's funny!! I moved from North Pekin, Illinois in Nov of 83, and everyone told us to go back! I was so happy it snowed so much only problem was I was in a casdt at the time talk about a bummer!:lol

[Shelly]

Those of you going the game, be careful!

[MannyIsGod]

The fuckers keep saying it isn't going to happen, but the temp is 32 and its raining. Uh, hello?

[Horry For 3!]

It is fucking cold outside. I had to get gas and it was damn windy and I was freezing my ass off.

[spurschick]

Those of you going the game, be careful!

No kidding. I'm happy to be going, but driving in this and walking from and to the car is going to seriously suck.

[midgetonadonkey]

I no longer have balls. They have been frozen to the point they fell off.

[spurs=bling]

The fuckers keep saying it isn't going to happen, but the temp is 32 and its raining. Uh, hello?

what snow?

[Shelly]

I put some sheets down on my flower beds and they are frozen stiff.

[1369]

Went to the Tetco for some cold beer and now I have sweater bumpers.

[Shelly]

Leave your beer outside! Nothing beats an ice cold brewski...

[MannyIsGod]

they just now issued the freezing rain advisory for San Antonio. WTF?

[CharlieMac]

I just had to go to Jess's work because she couldnt open the doors to the truck. Ever car in that parking lot (off Dezavala/IH-10) was iced over.

[Shelly]

We have a motorized awning on our back patio. My husband brought in because he didn't want the weight from the ice on it. It had little icicles on it and when he brought it in, all these big, thin pieces of ice fell off of it.

[KEDA]

um yeah, the drive home (Bulverde) wasnt fun, I had ice on 281N from 1863 all the way to my place, I had to drive with the 2 drivers side wheels in the flippin median and about 12 MPH for about 5-6 miles, what was normally a 20 minute trip took about an hour.


going through the hills in my neighborhood wasnt fun either.

[RashoFan]

Keda...sounds like you had just missed the MVA at 281N and Borgfeld. That hill and the traffic coming down it and sliding through the Traffic light...you know that has to suck!

[Vashner]

lol yea that's where I went to get a burger at that DQ on Borgfield. Around 8 and when I left there was a tiny little slide out.. and frozen stuff was coming down. LOL Must of been an accident right after that.

[Shelly]

So much for my plants. The wind blew off the sheets :(

[CosmicCowboy]

So much for my plants. The wind blew off the sheets :(

:lmao

I go the Darwinian Selection route on my plants...if they can't handle the heat/cold without special treatment they are dead suckas...

[SpursWoman]

I had nothing to worry about ... I killed all of my plants months ago...and I didn't need Mother Nature's help to do it. :tu :lol :oops

[CosmicCowboy]

testing

[Shelly]

:lmao

I go the Darwinian Selection route on my plants...if they can't handle the heat/cold without special treatment they are dead suckas...

:lol

I know! But my beds were starting to look good! I did save my lime tree, though!

:lol at SW. Did you get your pointsettias (sp?) and did your daughter sell enough to earn that trip?

[CosmicCowboy]

hmmm

[CosmicCowboy]

screw it...it won't link right

[SWC Bonfire]

Had some ice at home in Belmont.

Once I got just west of Luling to Praire Lea this morning, that's when everything just suddenly was engulfed in ice. It got less icy closer to San Marcos, but then got much icier just north of Kyle. The roads were relatively dry until I hit Kyle, and then they got wet and you could see some ice on the shoulders.

Be careful driving today.

[Shelly]

screw it...it won't link right


If your trying to post a picture that wont let you hotlink, save it to your desktop and then upload it to www.tinypic.com

[travis2]

It's not a picture, CC...

[CosmicCowboy]

It's not a picture, CC...

yeah, I figured that out...it was a day counter in a background.

[Vashner]

Cold sucks...

It should be hot... and at schlitterbahn at the swim up bar with a cold looted Heiny.

[tlongII]

Is Manny ordering an evacuation again?