Why won't Trump debate?

[RandomGuy]

Is Donald Trump too old to debate Vice President Harris?

Or is he too weak?

[Spurs Homer]

Both

but only one poll option…

[Blake]

Too weird

[Winehole23]

Verbal incontinence and encroaching senility. Trump basically can't be trusted to get out his own message or act presidential.

[ducks]

Why will Harris not go on Fox
Ahead she not get questions ahead of time ?
Really does not want to debate ?
Knows Trump will own her?
Can not talk only repeat what is written ?

[ducks]

Too weird

What is weird ?
Common sense ?

[ChumpDumper]

Why will Harris not go on Fox
Ahead she not get questions ahead of time ?
Really does not want to debate ?
Knows Trump will own her?
Can not talk only repeat what is written ?

:lol Trump is afraid

[z0sa]

Everyone's telling Trump the truth (which I called) for once: you didn't beat Biden, Biden beat himself. You'll only damage your already pathetically dropping poll numbers by debating Harris.

[RandomGuy]

Verbal incontinence and encroaching senility. Trump basically can't be trusted to get out his own message or act presidential.

Part of why his team pulled him from the dumpster fire interview... heh

[z0sa]

Seven point swing in a month (link) (https://www.masslive.com/politics/2024/08/harris-vs-trump-new-poll-shows-7-point-swing-in-presidential-race.html)


Of the people who said they would vote for Harris, 66% listed as a top reason “She represents a new generation.” The next highest response, at 37%, was “She will strengthen America’s global standing.”

For those who selected Trump, 75% listed “His first term accomplishments” as a primary reason they would vote for him, followed by “He will save America” at 48%.

:lol almost no-one voting for Trump has any real reasoning behind their decision-making. It's the exact same margin as vs Biden, as well - he isn't picking up literally ANY swing voters. Kamala has taken all of us, and almost instantly.

Must suck to be weird tbh.

[Thread]

Everyone's telling Trump the truth (which I called) for once: you didn't beat Biden, Biden beat himself. You'll only damage your already pathetically dropping poll numbers by debating Harris.

Biden quit in front of Trump

Trump did that.

[MultiTroll]

Why will Harris not go on Fox
Fraudulent, dishonest station. Not to be trusted.

Fox to Pay $787 Million in Dominion Defamation Trial Settlement

[spurraider21]

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Fraudulent, dishonest station. Not to be trusted.

Fox to Pay $787 Million in Dominion Defamation Trial Settlement



For having a differing opinion. Democracy, eh?

tee, hee.

[Thread]

Verbal incontinence and encroaching senility. Trump basically can't be trusted to get out his own message or act presidential.

Though he did raise up in fisted rage when ya's got within a quarter of an inch to him.

Let us proceed...

[Thread]

No second term for Joe.

Trump did that.

[Ef-man]

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Thank Christ...

...though...

- "Promises, promises."

- Ernie "The Cat" Ladd

[Blake]

What is weird ?
Common sense ?

You're weird too

[spurraider21]

For having a differing opinion. Democracy, eh?

tee, hee.
nope thats not what defamation is. nor does it have anything to do with democracy.

[Thread]

nope thats not what defamation is. nor does it have anything to do with democracy.

...right, not a thing.

[spurraider21]

...right, not a thing.
nah, democracy is about being able to vote for people to hold office

what you are thinking about is free speech. limitations on that have been acknowledged since its inception, defamation included

[Ef-man]

Why will Yam Tits not go at Apollo Theater with black audience
Ahead Yam Tits not get questions ahead of time ?
Really does not want to debate ?
Knows Kamala will own Yam Tits?
Can not talk only repeat what is written ?

fify

[Joseph Kony]

Trump is the koriwhat of politicians. says he'll throwdown anywhere but immediately shits himself when confronted with that proposition and retreats to his little safe space and claims victory :lol a punk bitch just like calf tats

[Thread]

nah, democracy is about being able to vote for people to hold office

what you are thinking about is free speech. limitations on that have been acknowledged since its inception, defamation included

Horseshit, 21.

You got that fat guy about the murdered children because he believed it never happened. Now you got FOX for supporting a differing opinion. Six of 1, half dozen of the other.

[Joseph Kony]

Why will Harris not go on Fox
Ahead she not get questions ahead of time ?
Really does not want to debate ?
Knows Trump will own her?
Can not talk only repeat what is written ?

:lol running from the already agreed upon debate and trying to change it to a different venue like a pussy. keep making excuses for that fat fuck

[Thread]

Trump is the koriwhat of politicians. says he'll throwdown anywhere but immediately shits himself when confronted with that proposition and retreats to his little safe space and claims victory :lol a punk bitch just like calf tats

He made President, that's why we're here of a Monday afternoon, JK.

[Thread]

:lol running from the already agreed upon debate and trying to change it to a different venue like a pussy. keep making excuses for that fat fuck

Whatever it takes. I wouldn't get within 10 miles of that half breed Injun.

[Ef-man]

:lol running from the already agreed upon debate and trying to change it to a different venue like a pussy. keep making excuses for that fat fuck

Pussies gonna pussy, way of the world

[Thread]

fify

Only pussies & assholes amend another member's shit.

[Thread]

Pussies gonna pussy, way of the world

Like Biden quittin'.

Trump did that.

[spurraider21]

Horseshit, 21.

You got that fat guy about the murdered children because he believed it never happened. Now you got FOX for supporting a differing opinion. Six of 1, half dozen of the other.
have no clue what you're saying, i may need a translator.

the key here about defamation is that the folks over at Fox knew what they were reporting was inaccurate. this isnt a situation where they earnestly believing something and just had a different opinion. they knew it was false. and they made the claims regardless. when asked about sidney powell's claims, hannity said (under penalty of perjury) that he didnt believe it for a second. murdoch himself called the fraud claims crazy stuff, were terrible, and causing damage. he didnt care though. they made the claims all the same.

[Joseph Kony]

i commend SR21 for always trying to reply in good faith to certain posters but its like...why :lol

SR21: *logical, well-reasoned comment*
Thread: *repeats parrot schtick for the 983957439783th time*
SR21: *thoughtful response*
Thread: *repeats parrot schtick for the 983957439784th time*

or:

SR21: *logical, well-reasoned comment*
joey: *autistic screeching*
SR21: *thoughtful response*
joey: *more autistic screeching*


You sir are a trooper

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i commend SR21 for always trying to reply in good faith to certain posters but its like...why :lol

SR21: *logical, well-reasoned comment*
Thread: *repeats parrot schtick for the 983957439783th time*
SR21: *thoughtful response*
Thread: *repeats parrot schtick for the 983957439784th time*

or:

SR21: *logical, well-reasoned comment*
joey: *autistic screeching*
SR21: *thoughtful response*
joey: *more autistic screeching*


You sir are a trooper

Please. It's the first time in a coon's age that 21 has conducted a conversation with me that he didn't call me everything but a White man. He was must be dying of a disease and wants to get right with the Lord.

[Ef-man]

i commend SR21 for always trying to reply in good faith to certain posters but its like...why :lol

SR21: *logical, well-reasoned comment*
Thread: *repeats parrot schtick for the 983957439783th time*
SR21: *thoughtful response*
Thread: *repeats parrot schtick for the 983957439784th time*

or:

SR21: *logical, well-reasoned comment*
joey: *autistic screeching*
SR21: *thoughtful response*
joey: *more autistic screeching*


You sir are a trooper

Pussies gonna pussy, way of the world

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Pussies gonna pussy, way of the world

Quit combin' your hair in the mirror.

[Ef-man]

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Thank Christ.

Now, mean it!!!

[RandomGuy]

have no clue what you're saying, i may need a translator.

the key here about defamation is that the folks over at Fox knew what they were reporting was inaccurate. this isnt a situation where they earnestly believing something and just had a different opinion. they knew it was false. and they made the claims regardless. when asked about sidney powell's claims, hannity said (under penalty of perjury) that he didnt believe it for a second. murdoch himself called the fraud claims crazy stuff, were terrible, and causing damage. he didnt care though. they made the claims all the same.

.. that is the right wing media sphere in a nutshell.

They make money on outrage, and do not care what is true or not, or about the damage they do.

[RandomGuy]

i commend SR21 for always trying to reply in good faith to certain posters but its like...why :lol

SR21: *logical, well-reasoned comment*
Thread: *repeats parrot schtick for the 983957439783th time*
SR21: *thoughtful response*
Thread: *repeats parrot schtick for the 983957439784th time*

or:

SR21: *logical, well-reasoned comment*
joey: *autistic screeching*
SR21: *thoughtful response*
joey: *more autistic screeching*


You sir are a trooper

Yeah, I gave up on them a long time ago. Worth derision, and little else.

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.. that is the right wing media sphere in a nutshell.

They make money on outrage, and do not care what is true or not, or about the damage they do.

You do the exact same thing, only when you do it>>>it skates.

[Thread]

Yeah, I gave up on them a long time ago. Worth derision, and little else.

You give up on anybody you can't best. You tell the Sysop first, then if that doesn't work you put 'em on your Ignore List.

You can dish it but you can't take it. And nobody, pal, dishes it like Dale. Ever. It's my religion.

[lebomb]

He wont debate because his massive, orange dropped down to his kneecaps rack will draw attention away from the debate is my guess.

[Thread]

He wont debate because is massive, orange dropped down to his kneecaps rack will draw attention away from the debate is my guess.

Whatever it takes.

[lebomb]

Ive never seen a former president so well endowed.

You cant stop the RACK!!

[spurraider21]

i commend SR21 for always trying to reply in good faith to certain posters but its like...why :lol

SR21: *logical, well-reasoned comment*
Thread: *repeats parrot schtick for the 983957439783th time*
SR21: *thoughtful response*
Thread: *repeats parrot schtick for the 983957439784th time*

or:

SR21: *logical, well-reasoned comment*
joey: *autistic screeching*
SR21: *thoughtful response*
joey: *more autistic screeching*


You sir are a trooper
ive been pretty absent from the political sub for a while now. dont mind it every now and again.

[Proxy]

Considering both parties have been working in unison for a while now, I’d say he’s not debating for the same reasons we never saw Kamala speak as a vice president unless it was dunking on immigrants or talking about meaningless shit. She isn’t a great speaker either. She says weird shit all the time. The GOP seems shook by the candidate change up, but it’s fuckin stupid that you guys treat these candidates like they’re sports teams with these dumbass memes. Everyone seems to overlook that both parties forced their candidates on us without any real primaries.

kamala has a history of locking up black people and using them for slave labor. She’s as much of an imperialist as Joe and Donald. One is openly stunting us and the other does it behind the BLM and LGBTQ hashtags. If the DNC gave a damn about us, they’d have kept their promises. Obama could’ve codified Roe v Wade and kicked RBG’s old ass out of her seat before she died. They would’ve got rid of the Bush tax cuts and Brandon wouldn’t have stunted the Railroad Union strike. Why is the DNC playing into the immigrant issue when violent crime is at its lowest in who knows how long? Libs are more damaging for progress than the conservatives bc the right will always have a party. That the DNC successfully has half the country thinking they’ve got any semblance of progressivism is checkmate. That libs think they’re smarter than everyone is the cherry on top

”vote blue no matter who!” Jfc gimme a fuckin break

[Winehole23]

That US elections are largely an intramural right-wing contest is plausible.

That said, it's not exactly honest to claim the political commitments of Rs and Ds are identical, nor that one is interchangeable with another -- in this case one of the candidates is a sadistic mental degenerate.

And just btw, behind "the BLM and LGTBQ hashtags" lurks the freedom and happiness of real human beings.

[Proxy]

The freedom and happiness of human beings is not going to come from the hands of the dnc. Kamala breaking donation records while our tax money goes to killing brown people in Gaza is depressing. The one thing trump provides is emboldening violence by the kkk types, can’t argue with that. But I see zero evidence that the parties aren’t identical. DNC clutches to not codifying roe solely for the purpose of having something to blame the GOP for

[Blake]

Considering both parties have been working in unison for a while now, I’d say he’s not debating for the same reasons we never saw Kamala speak as a vice president unless it was dunking on immigrants or talking about meaningless shit. She isn’t a great speaker either. She says weird shit all the time. The GOP seems shook by the candidate change up, but it’s fuckin stupid that you guys treat these candidates like they’re sports teams with these dumbass memes. Everyone seems to overlook that both parties forced their candidates on us without any real primaries.

kamala has a history of locking up black people and using them for slave labor. She’s as much of an imperialist as Joe and Donald. One is openly stunting us and the other does it behind the BLM and LGBTQ hashtags. If the DNC gave a damn about us, they’d have kept their promises. Obama could’ve codified Roe v Wade and kicked RBG’s old ass out of her seat before she died. They would’ve got rid of the Bush tax cuts and Brandon wouldn’t have stunted the Railroad Union strike. Why is the DNC playing into the immigrant issue when violent crime is at its lowest in who knows how long? Libs are more damaging for progress than the conservatives bc the right will always have a party. That the DNC successfully has half the country thinking they’ve got any semblance of progressivism is checkmate. That libs think they’re smarter than everyone is the cherry on top

”vote blue no matter who!” Jfc gimme a fuckin break

Oh hey an appearance from a "both sides guy"

[Blake]

The freedom and happiness of human beings is not going to come from the hands of the dnc. Kamala breaking donation records while our tax money goes to killing brown people in Gaza is depressing. The one thing trump provides is emboldening violence by the kkk types, can’t argue with that. But I see zero evidence that the parties aren’t identical. DNC clutches to not codifying roe solely for the purpose of having something to blame the GOP for

Is this your excuse to go ahead and vote for Trump?

[Winehole23]

The one thing trump provides is emboldening violence by the kkk types, can’t argue with that. But I see zero evidence that the parties aren’t identical. seems a significant difference to me

[Proxy]

Oh hey an appearance from a "both sides guy"

Oh hey and appearance from “I can’t read guy”

[Proxy]

seems a significant difference to me
If one opens the door for the other, where exactly are we headed as a country? I voted Biden last time and now we’re at war in Ukraine and sending troops to defend Israel from iran, and iran is absolutely in the right to attack Netanyahu

racism has gone up with shit like Kamala shitting on immigrants and lgbtq rights going back. You’ve seen how toxic the Olympic chatter has been

[Thread]

seems a significant difference to me

Caught ya, didn't he, by God?

ha, ha.

[Proxy]

All props to the kids in Bangladesh tho

[Thread]

If one opens the door for the other, where exactly are we headed as a country? I voted Biden last time and now we’re at war in Ukraine and sending troops to defend Israel from iran, and iran is absolutely in the right to attack Netanyahu

Hear, hear.

[Winehole23]

If one opens the door for the other, where exactly are we headed as a country? I voted Biden last time and now we’re at war in Ukraine and sending troops to defend Israel from iran, and iran is absolutely in the right to attack Netanyahu

racism has gone up with shit like Kamala shitting on immigrants and lgbtq rights going back. You’ve seen how toxic the Olympic chatter has beenI have no idea where we are headed as a country, but maybe voting can sometimes make things slightly less bad. Or not.

That Kamala Harris is responsible for rising racism and homophobia sounds weird to me, but maybe there's stuff don't know about her.

[Blake]

Oh hey and appearance from “I can’t read guy”

You said "both sides" twice in that post, then railed on Kamala and the regrets of voting Biden because of Ukraine which is kinda weird.

Feel free to explain how that wasn't a both sides post.

[Proxy]

I have no idea where we are headed as a country, but maybe voting can sometimes make things slightly less bad. Or not.

That Kamala Harris is responsible for rising racism and homophobia sounds weird to me, but maybe there's stuff don't know about her.

the racism thing comes from her years as a prosecutor in Cali. She’d focus on black communities in the Bay Area to fuel the prison industrial complex. Then she famously kept black men past their sentences to use for free labor… slavery. Then saying “do not come” to the immigrants traveling up to us bc of the sanctions we placed on their country is expected, but also still playing into the demonization of an Americans . (But only after we use them for cheap labor right)


In terms of the gay rights front, that’s on all the dnc for how they handled Ruth bader ginsburg. The tactics for both parties seem obviously geared towards decentralizing the working class. They’re allowing the other party to pass their rhetoric while playing the victim card, meanwhile working voters get split up in stupid ass arguments over hormones and chromosomes in sporting events. That’s both parties working together. It isn’t some dumb “both parties” bs like Blake thinks he has me on.

[Blake]

If one opens the door for the other, where exactly are we headed as a country? I voted Biden last time and now we’re at war in Ukraine and sending troops to defend Israel from iran, and iran is absolutely in the right to attack Netanyahu

racism has gone up with shit like Kamala shitting on immigrants and lgbtq rights going back. You’ve seen how toxic the Olympic chatter has been

Who's podcast have you been listening to?

[Winehole23]

I understood what you were saying right up until this:


In terms of the gay rights front, that’s on all the dnc for how they handled Ruth bader ginsburg.more info, please?

[Blake]

the racism thing comes from her years as a prosecutor in Cali. She’d focus on black communities in the Bay Area to fuel the prison industrial complex. Then she famously kept black men past their sentences to use for free labor… slavery. Then saying “do not come” to the immigrants traveling up to us bc of the sanctions we placed on their country is expected, but also still playing into the demonization of an Americans . (But only after we use them for cheap labor right)


In terms of the gay rights front, that’s on all the dnc for how they handled Ruth bader ginsburg. The tactics for both parties seem obviously geared towards decentralizing the working class. They’re allowing the other party to pass their rhetoric while playing the victim card, meanwhile working voters get split up in stupid ass arguments over hormones and chromosomes in sporting events. That’s both parties working together. It isn’t some dumb “both parties” bs like Blake thinks he has me on.

Rofl "it's both parties but it's not dumb both parties bs!"

Seriously lolwut?

[Proxy]

You said "both sides" twice in that post, then railed on Kamala and the regrets of voting Biden because of Ukraine which is kinda weird.

Feel free to explain how that wasn't a both sides post.

don’t bs me, you know as well as I do that “both sides” people aren’t talking about what I’m saying. Those are cuck centrists that pretend to be engaged in politics for their self image

[Proxy]

I understood what you were saying right up until this:

more info, please?

she was old and dying and should’ve relinquished her seat while Obama was in office. Taking the chance of dying with a Republican in office… now the Supreme Court is what it is and it’s systematically curtailing gay and women’s rights

[Winehole23]

Ds and Rs are both very hard on immigration, both robustly tend and maintain punitive criminal justice/prison bureaucracies; unfortunately, the 13th Amendment has a straight-up slavery loophole for convicts, I'm not surprised the Cali AG at the time defended whatever the Cali justice system was doing.

These are all legit reasons not to like Harris, they don't really move the needle for me. Being the person best positioned to hasten Donald Trump to his legal just desserts, is enough. Donald Trump is a dangerous criminal who tried to steal an election.

[Winehole23]

she was old and dying and should’ve relinquished her seat while Obama was in office. Taking the chance of dying with a Republican in office… now the Supreme Court is what it is and it’s systematically curtailing gay and women’s rightsoh, right, the DNC didn't persuade her hard enough.

for gay and women's right's just as you say, potentially catastrophic and catastrophic respectively.

for myself, I would assign somewhat more agency to RBG: she knew what she was doing. maybe RBG was selfish, maybe she hung onto it too long.

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Ds and Rs are both very hard on immigration, both robustly tend and maintain punitive criminal justice/prison bureaucracies; unfortunately, the 13th Amendment has a straight-up slavery loophole for convicts, I'm not surprised the Cali AG at the time defended whatever the Cali justice system was doing.

These are all legit reasons not to like Harris, they don't really move the needle for me. Being the person best positioned to hasten Donald Trump to his legal just desserts, is enough. Donald Trump is a dangerous criminal who tried to steal an election.

That needle couldn't be moved with a nuclear strike.

[Spurs Homer]

Hey OP;

you spelled "pussy" wrong!

[Ef-man]

Hey OP;

you spelled "pussy" wrong!

Actually, it is "big vagina" or if you want to get technical, "smelly vulva!"

[Spurs Homer]

Actually, it is "big vagina" or if you want to get technical, "smelly vulva!"

lol "strong man"

[Thread]

lol "strong man"

...filled that SC like one.

tee, hee.

[Proxy]

Rofl "it's both parties but it's not dumb both parties bs!"

Seriously lolwut?

all the shit I laid out and all you can do is reduce this to semantics. don't waste my time

[Proxy]

Ds and Rs are both very hard on immigration, both robustly tend and maintain punitive criminal justice/prison bureaucracies; unfortunately, the 13th Amendment has a straight-up slavery loophole for convicts, I'm not surprised the Cali AG at the time defended whatever the Cali justice system was doing.

These are all legit reasons not to like Harris, they don't really move the needle for me. Being the person best positioned to hasten Donald Trump to his legal just desserts, is enough. Donald Trump is a dangerous criminal who tried to steal an election.

I'm not talking on Harris to move a needle... not like our vote in TX matters anyways. I hate the hypocrisy and unwillingness of dem voters to hold their party accountable. It's like a bunch of Bill Maher types that tie their voting record to their fragile ego. The types that politically disengage until the next presidential election when they can put their cute sign in the front yard and argue with the other half like its a Yankee/Red Sox world series

[Thread]

I'm not talking on Harris to move a needle... not like our vote in TX matters anyways. I hate the hypocrisy and unwillingness of dem voters to hold their party accountable. It's like a bunch of Bill Maher types that tie their voting record to their fragile ego. The types that politically disengage until the next presidential election when they can put their cute sign in the front yard and argue with the other half like its a Yankee/Red Sox world series

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[ChumpDumper]

I'm not talking on Harris to move a needle... not like our vote in TX matters anyways. I hate the hypocrisy and unwillingness of dem voters to hold their party accountable. It's like a bunch of Bill Maher types that tie their voting record to their fragile ego. The types that politically disengage until the next presidential election when they can put their cute sign in the front yard and argue with the other half like its a Yankee/Red Sox world series

So who are you voting for?

[Thread]

As long as he stays "back out" I'm Jake.

[Winehole23]

I'm not talking on Harris to move a needle... not like our vote in TX matters anyways. I hate the hypocrisy and unwillingness of dem voters to hold their party accountable. It's like a bunch of Bill Maher types that tie their voting record to their fragile ego. The types that politically disengage until the next presidential election when they can put their cute sign in the front yard and argue with the other half like its a Yankee/Red Sox world seriesnot everyone is a political activist, and that's ok with me. ymmv.

[Blake]

all the shit I laid out and all you can do is reduce this to semantics. don't waste my time

Yeah, I'm frustrated with the system we have too, but I'm not gonna waste my time on a rambling barely coherent text wall either. I can reduce your post easily down to an lol and move on just the same.

[Thread]

Yeah, I'm frustrated with the system we have too, but I'm not gonna waste my time on a rambling barely coherent text wall either. I can reduce your post easily down to an lol and move on just the same.

...and if he persists you'll put him on your "Ignore List."

[Winehole23]

Yeah, I'm frustrated with the system we have too, but I'm not gonna waste my time on a rambling barely coherent text wall either. I can reduce your post easily down to an lol and move on just the same.Proxy seems to be less of a "both sides" than a "neither of the above."

Left wingers get left out of US politics approximately 100%. It might be a long time until another straight up socialist like Bernie Sanders comes along.

[Blake]

Proxy seems to be less of a "both sides" than a "neither of the above."

Left wingers get left out of US politics approximately 100%. It might be a long time until another straight up socialist like Bernie Sanders comes along.

We'd all like two great candidates to choose from. I think the last time I was neither of the above was Bush/Kerry.

Now it's "anyone but Trump"

[FrostKing]

Donald likely needs to be coached for a bit so he doesn't snap on secretary Kamala

[FrostKing]

We'd all like two great candidates to choose from. I think the last time I was neither of the above was Bush/Kerry.

Now it's "anyone but Trump"
I was 100% sure Kerry would win

[Thread]

We'd all like two great candidates to choose from. I think the last time I was neither of the above was Bush/Kerry.

Now it's "anyone but Trump"

...and within a quarter of an inch.

[Thread]

Donald likely needs to be coached for a bit so he doesn't snap on secretary Kamala

Wouldn't hurt to have the SS not stand down again.

[Winehole23]

We'd all like two great candidates to choose from. I think the last time I was neither of the above was Bush/Kerry.

Now it's "anyone but Trump"Breaking the dynastic spell that covered the last ~50 years is refreshing

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GUW6dalWwAAf_9G?format=png&name=900x900

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Breaking the dynastic spell that covered the last ~50 years is refreshing

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GUW6dalWwAAf_9G?format=png&name=900x900

The best part? God willing & your Picketwire don't rise Hillary Clinton will go to her grave without making President. The Magic Negro whipped that broad White ass first. Then Trump set her top rung on that curb..."Now, say goodnight."

[ChumpDumper]

:lol

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https://x.com/justinbaragona/status/1820990486766932424

[RandomGuy]

ive been pretty absent from the political sub for a while now. dont mind it every now and again.

Ditto.

[RandomGuy]

Donald likely needs to be coached for a bit so he doesn't snap on secretary Kamala

They won't coach him. They will goad him to be more aggressive.

women will see that and get a very different message than what he intends.

[baseline bum]

:lol

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https://x.com/justinbaragona/status/1820990486766932424

LOL Fox News having a child predator on

[Winehole23]

Prosecutors decline sexual assault charges against Scott Baio - CBS News (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/prosecutors-decline-sexual-assault-charges-against-scott-baio/)


Former "Charles in Charge" star Scott Baio will not be charged over sexual assault allegations made by his former co-star. The Los Angeles County District Attorney's Office decided Monday not to file charges, saying in an evaluation that the statute of limitations had expired.

[Ef-man]

Donald likely needs to be coached for a bit so he doesn't snap on secretary Kamala

You can't change a 78 year old. Yam Tits is set in his ways, wishful thinking though

[Winehole23]

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[Proxy]

Proxy seems to be less of a "both sides" than a "neither of the above."

Left wingers get left out of US politics approximately 100%. It might be a long time until another straight up socialist like Bernie Sanders comes along.

that’s the right read, thanks. Even Bernie has had his shortcomings and seeing him reduced to “hey leftists, vote for the leas right wing party bc (insert gas light reason)… seeing Cori bush outed by AIPAC is another middle finger to all of us

[Proxy]

We'd all like two great candidates to choose from. I think the last time I was neither of the above was Bush/Kerry.

Now it's "anyone but Trump"

kerry has shown himself to be nothing short of a Pelosi hyper capitalist

[Proxy]

not everyone is a political activist, and that's ok with me. ymmv.
You don’t have to be an activist to remove yourself from the gas lighting tactics of corp dnc

[Proxy]

So who are you voting for?

not sure yet, not that my presidential vote matters in TX

[Winehole23]

You don’t have to be an activist to remove yourself from the gas lighting tactics of corp dncsure, being a grouchy scold with a stick up your ass is optional too

[Proxy]

sure, being a grouchy scold with a stick up your ass is optional too
I get that I’m grouchy about shit, but the thing that makes me lose hope.. you (less so), Blake, chump… y’all seem so in love with the gas lighting of anyone outsides y’all’s stances, that you’re blinded on how to push the party towards any semblance of progress. Shitting on peoples ridicule of Kamala is only going to lead to further political disengagement bc the message says “no trump means we’re good!”

You’ve been receptive to whatever I’m saying for some discussion even though we keep condescending to each other, while Blake and Chump aren’t engaging me in good faith. Just common redditor shit to me. Thread and I probably aren’t on the same page either, but we agree on the hypocrisy of the liberal agenda. I’m guessing too, Thread, that you’re only as right wing as you need to be to troll. You all have a longer history with each other, but anyone that’s pro capitalist at this point, in my opinion, is a moron. And anyone that can’t see that the Dems are fucking us… wtf are y’all looking at? Kamala isn’t going to provide an different future than trump, and if she’s just a buffer, than she’s a dangerous buffer that should be anticipated to be a major piece of shit

shit is the nicest I can be about what you all constantly argue about

[ChumpDumper]

not sure yet, not that my presidential vote matters in TX

Leaning toward any candidate?

There really aren't that many.

[ChumpDumper]

I get that I’m grouchy about shit, but the thing that makes me lose hope.. you (less so), Blake, chump… y’all seem so in love with the gas lighting of anyone outsides y’all’s stances, that you’re blinded on how to push the party towards any semblance of progress. Shitting on peoples ridicule of Kamala is only going to lead to further political disengagement bc the message says “no trump means we’re good!”

You’ve been receptive to whatever I’m saying for some discussion even though we keep condescending to each other, while Blake and Chump aren’t engaging me in good faith. Just common redditor shit to me. Thread and I probably aren’t on the same page either, but we agree on the hypocrisy of the liberal agenda. I’m guessing too, Thread, that you’re only as right wing as you need to be to troll. You all have a longer history with each other, but anyone that’s pro capitalist at this point, in my opinion, is a moron. And anyone that can’t see that the Dems are fucking us… wtf are y’all looking at? Kamala isn’t going to provide an different future than trump, and if she’s just a buffer, than she’s a dangerous buffer that should be anticipated to be a major piece of shit

shit is the nicest I can be about what you all constantly argue aboutI asked you in good faith whom you are likely to support because I am genuinely interested how a person like you plans to vote considering all your grievances against basically everyone.

That is all I asked.

You immediately got defensive and insulting.

Why?

[Proxy]

Leaning toward any candidate?

There really aren't that many.

there aren’t, I’m in a fucked position tbh

i don’t want the far right to make more ground, the Dems open the door for them systematically. The few leftist Dems are demonized while being conservative in the sense of true progressivism. I get triggered by dem hypocrisy more than the gop for plenty of reasons that I’m sure you can understand

[Proxy]

I asked you in good faith whom you are likely to support because I am genuinely interested how a person like you plans to vote considering all your grievances against basically everyone.

That is all I asked.

You immediately got defensive and insulting.

Why?

look, I’ve been on this site earlier than my profile says. I appreciate the long term members like you or thread or anyone. I’ve seen y’all’s arguments and y’all both troll each other constantly. My outside take on you is that you’re trying to persuade people to say that the big heads of the dnc aren’t guilty of the shit Donald does. I’m absolutely open to you or Blake proving me wrong, but as far as I’ve seen… it’s just “persists” bumper sticker stuff. Do you care about Kamala’s past rhetoric being anti “everything y’all are for” or is it just all shoved under the rug for the sake of defeating a candidate that was largely the DNC’s creation? (Trump)

[Winehole23]

there aren’t, I’m in a fucked position tbh

i don’t want the far right to make more ground, the Dems open the door for them systematically. The few leftist Dems are demonized while being conservative in the sense of true progressivism. I get triggered by dem hypocrisy more than the gop for plenty of reasons that I’m sure you can understandSure, the media treats the corruption and toxicity of Republicans like a background assumption too. It's understandable that the party that has jettisoned moral/ethical accountability in the pursuit of raw power more or less gets a pass from you, and Democrats get all your scorn. One side is nakedly amoral and self-serving while the other gives lip service to the public good, while being substantially similar to the other side.

This shouldn't surprise or demoralize a leftist. To put it in old fashioned terms, the politics both reflects and mystifies material conditions. Taking that all out on the Dems seems arbitrary.

[Spurs Homer]

look, I’ve been on this site earlier than my profile says. I appreciate the long term members like you or thread or anyone. I’ve seen y’all’s arguments and y’all both troll each other constantly. My outside take on you is that you’re trying to persuade people to say that the big heads of the dnc aren’t guilty of the shit Donald does. I’m absolutely open to you or Blake proving me wrong, but as far as I’ve seen… it’s just “persists” bumper sticker stuff. Do you care about Kamala’s past rhetoric being anti “everything y’all are for” or is it just all shoved under the rug for the sake of defeating a candidate that was largely the DNC’s creation? (Trump)

arent you equivocating ?

terrorists who attempted a coup, stopped believing in free and fair elections and want a dictator....

to

shitty politicians who also can be hypocrites at times

seems like that long ago "lesser of two evils"

is plain to see in this election but the fact that you attack the party that is at least still a party who wants democracy says more about you than anything else.

[ChumpDumper]

look, I’ve been on this site earlier than my profile says. I appreciate the long term members like you or thread or anyone. I’ve seen y’all’s arguments and y’all both troll each other constantly. My outside take on you is that you’re trying to persuade people to say that the big heads of the dnc aren’t guilty of the shit Donald does. I’m absolutely open to you or Blake proving me wrong, but as far as I’ve seen… it’s just “persists” bumper sticker stuff. Do you care about Kamala’s past rhetoric being anti “everything y’all are for” or is it just all shoved under the rug for the sake of defeating a candidate that was largely the DNC’s creation? (Trump)

It's a choice between two candidates at this point. No one has.ever been my perfect candidate but it's just a matter of avoiding further disaster now. Doing any but voting for Harris is supporting that disaster. You seem like you want that as a punishment for the Democratic party you feel has betrayed/insulted you. That's your right but it's my right to say I think it's juvenile and short sighted.

[Winehole23]

Throwing up ones hands in disgust at both sides when one of them presents naked fascism is a choice.

[ChumpDumper]

This is the same attitude that got Trump elected in the first place. Did that make the US a better place for leftists?

[Winehole23]

This is the same attitude that got Trump elected in the first place. Did that make the US a better place for leftists?The accelerationist left that wants to see power collapse so it can sit on the throne has no power base in the USA. "Worse to get better" and "sharpening the contradictions" opens the door to every opportunist, while increasing social misery for everybody.

[Blake]

look, I’ve been on this site earlier than my profile says. I appreciate the long term members like you or thread or anyone. I’ve seen y’all’s arguments and y’all both troll each other constantly. My outside take on you is that you’re trying to persuade people to say that the big heads of the dnc aren’t guilty of the shit Donald does. I’m absolutely open to you or Blake proving me wrong, but as far as I’ve seen… it’s just “persists” bumper sticker stuff. Do you care about Kamala’s past rhetoric being anti “everything y’all are for” or is it just all shoved under the rug for the sake of defeating a candidate that was largely the DNC’s creation? (Trump)

What "big heads" of the DNC are guilty of being felons like Trump and the people surrounding Trump? It's your claim to prove, not anyone else's to disprove.

[koriwhat]

Throwing up ones hands in disgust at both sides when one of them presents naked fascism is a choice.

You keep using this whole "fascism" bs but please do tell, what's been fascist coming from Trump? Was he installed, wiping 14m votes away from the duly elected candidate, by the party? Did he reach out to social platforms to silence the everyday man like Biden and his admin did? Did he flood the border with illegals threatening the lives and livelihoods of all citizens here? There's so much to say but you fucking frail spineless losers are so damn indoctrinated you'll continue to walk in step with the regressive cult until you're finally on your knees facing the wall while your "comrade" puts one in the back of your empty skull. Fucking retard!

[Blake]

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[Ef-man]

Bone spurs will keep Yam Tits from debating

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[ducks]

The first Debate with Kamala Harris, for President of the United States of America, will be with FoxNews on September 4th, 2024, LIVE from beautiful Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. The second Debate will take place on Fake News ABC, home of George Slopadopoulos, to be anchored by David Muir, on September 10th, 2024, at Independence Hall in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. The third Debate will take place on NBC, in Grand Rapids, Michigan, on September 25th, 2024, to be anchored by Lester Holt - Details to follow. I look forward to seeing Kamala at all three Debates! DJT

[Blake]

The first Debate with Kamala Harris, for President of the United States of America, will be with FoxNews on September 4th, 2024, LIVE from beautiful Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. The second Debate will take place on Fake News ABC, home of George Slopadopoulos, to be anchored by David Muir, on September 10th, 2024, at Independence Hall in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. The third Debate will take place on NBC, in Grand Rapids, Michigan, on September 25th, 2024, to be anchored by Lester Holt - Details to follow. I look forward to seeing Kamala at all three Debates! DJT


Wow, can't believe he agreed to other debates after Fox on not one but two non fox stations. What an idiot.