WTF is Wrong with Wemby?

[Splits]

He is eating shit in the Olympics

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[Spurs Homer]

He is eating shit in the Olympics

4-17
2-10

they are in the final….

[Dex]

This random thought in your head doesn't really deserve it's own thread.

[MultiTroll]

This French coach....
A lot like the Spurs strategy with Craig Popplevich running Sochan at point and the Freeze Out Krew ignoring Wama.

Sure he's missing some shots, but he is contributing big time in other areas including defense.

And yes, he simply needs to continue to grow as a player. FFS he's only 20.

The German Center from the Boston Celtics guarding him today is no slouch. Solid player.

Summary. He's in the Gold Medal game with a coach as equally bad as Pop and a very average cast of teamates. That is doing very well!

[Spurs Homer]

Also…

he has seemingly played year round at this point…

im hoping he takes a few weeks off before he gets to work on his upcoming mvp season…

[DAF86]

Offense is way easier in the NBA, tbh.

[Chinook]

Wemby's fine. He has to take some lumps. DAFfy isn't wrong too that FIBA may not end up being his game, at least not offensively. But I think he just needs more experience. You can't skip steps. You can go through them faster, but growing up takes time.

[Arcadian]

If all you consider is shooting efficiency, sure. Overall he's still being a very impactful player while playing within a system that doesn't always feature him.

[Mr. Body]

A lot of top players aren't shooting well. It's a high-pressure tournament where single games are even higher pressure.

[Ice009]

The German Center from the Boston Celtics guarding him today is no slouch. Solid player.


I've seen people mention this numerous times. He hasn't played for Boston for a while now (2 seasons ago I think).

[MultiTroll]

I've seen people mention this numerous times. He hasn't played for Boston for a while now (2 seasons ago I think).
Bopped from the Celts blown championship team to Indy, then played a solid bench role for the Clippers last season '23-'24 at 17 min per game in 59 games.

Just this past July he signed with the Pelicans.

Has been a solid if unspectacular bench player imo. Can also hork a reasonable trey for a muscleman PF.

He got away with a few fouls on Wemby, but that appears to be the way FIBA rolls.

[John B]

Offense is way easier in the NBA, tbh.

True as Team USA found out, escaping only with Curry’s monstrous game.

[Brazil]

People are forgetting that Victor is a kid, this is his first international tournament right after his first NBA season... He is gassed, I'm happy we are in final but as a Spurs fan I would have preferred France to be eliminated much sooner. Victor needs rest. What is encouraging is that despite his struggle in Offense he is not giving up and is playing elite defense and improving his passing.

[pgardn]

Offense is way easier in the NBA, tbh.

Especially regular season games in the NBA. FIBA games are way more physical. Lebron has especially taken advantage of the physicality and mental toughness required in single big games.

NBA regular season sux. Way too many games. Like the NBA is MLB, it should not be imo. Cut the reg season and playoff series to 2 out of 3 and you will get frantic toughness more like FiBA played in the Olympics.

[CGD]

He’s fine, and while his offense is off, they are nowhere without his defense.

[Mr. Body]

Jason Tatum has been unplayable and he just won a championship.

[Strategic]

He’s in Paris. The random poontain showing up all hours of the night. He’s just worn out.

[TD 21]

I wouldn't say anything is wrong per se, he just doesn't really have a bankable way to consistently derive offensive efficiency from right now.

Despite his proclivity for taking jumpers, he's not a good shooter right now. If you put a wing on him it neuters his off the dribble game and if that wing is stout enough he doesn't have the physique to punish them in the post. Obviously he's never going to be limited to rim running vertical spacer, so there's going to be a preponderance of poor shooting/high turnover games.

By this measure: Global Rating: The best players at the 2024 Olympic basketball tournament | HoopsHype (https://hoopshype.com/lists/olympic-basketball-best-players/), he still ranks as the 6th best player in the tournament.

[TimmyBuckets]

He's terrible and overrated. Worst player on the Spurs, let alone the NBA.

[Knoxxx]

I would agree that Wemby has to be tired and I thought I read he was feeling a bit banged up, leg/hip to that effect a week or so ago. Given Rudy is not allowed to play over a finger boo boo, that sounds fortunate we are seeing as much of Wemby as we are.

He has been off, the 3 pointers he has missed have largely seemed wide open to me. He's playing on the low end of anything we saw from him last year. The time to get hot would be this last game tomorrow though, not sooner since they made it.

I think it is possible that we have finally found a worse passing team than the Spurs. Where is the alley oop lob to Wemby? Still, he may not be full go in that regard (leg/hip?) Also, he has clearly been trying to be a team player and cog in the wheel, which makes sense given the "system", respecting older players like a Batum, and possibility that he is not 100%.

[sfernald]

We need to sign his little French buddy Fournier to a minimum contract when Olympics is over. He would fit perfectly in Wesley’s or Branham’s roster slot!

[rjv]

i'm still wondering wtf is wrong with duncan after that 2004 showing in Athens.

[Chinook]

i'm still wondering wtf is wrong with duncan after that 2004 showing in Athens.

Some kind of injury would be my guess. He only got to play 12 more years after those games.

[TekXX]

i'm still wondering wtf is wrong with duncan after that 2004 showing in Athens.

Planter Fasciitis

[exstatic]

We need to sign his little French buddy Fournier to a minimum contract when Olympics is over. He would fit perfectly in Wesley’s or Branham’s roster slot!

Fournier is worse than either of them, and would do better than NBA minimum in Europe.

[Pauleta14]

i'm still wondering wtf is wrong with duncan after that 2004 showing in Athens.

"Fuck FIBA!"

Timothy Theodore Ducan, September 2004

:lol

[GB20]

I think the Kid is really tired and his legs are gone. You have to remember that his body still developing.

[Ice009]

"Fuck FIBA!"

Timothy Theodore Ducan, September 2004

:lol

I don't actually remember what happened. Was he getting screwed over by the officiating with cheap fouls? Does anyone remember watching the games?

Hopefully Victor can dig deep and come up with a massive game tomorrow. I believe he will.

[GB20]

People are forgetting that Victor is a kid, this is his first international tournament right after his first NBA season... He is gassed, I'm happy we are in final but as a Spurs fan I would have preferred France to be eliminated much sooner. Victor needs rest. What is encouraging is that despite his struggle in Offense he is not giving up and is playing elite defense and improving his passing.
I am glad Pop played Wemby limited minutes in his rookie season because Pop knew what was coming for Victor in this Olympic.

[dbestpro]

He needs rest.

[sfernald]

Fournier is worse than either of them, and would do better than NBA minimum in Europe.

Nah I disagree. At least he can make a layup now and again unlike Wesley.

[ZeusWillJudge]

He's shooting 65% from the FT line, which is a pretty good sign that he's tired.

But that doesn't do justice to the fact that he's drawn a lot of attention. He'll get better/stronger and handle the defensive pressure better, but even now he makes his teammates better. Those guys around him are good, but they don't get to the final without Wemby - even if his shooting % is down.

[Pauleta14]

I don't actually remember what happened. Was he getting screwed over by the officiating with cheap fouls? Does anyone remember watching the games?

Hopefully Victor can dig deep and come up with a massive game tomorrow. I believe he will.

Don't recall the details but mostly he struggled to adapts to FIBA rules and probably wasn't prepared for it.

He also was part of the weakest Dream Team assembled. Kobe or Shaq refused to come.

I recall him fouling out couple times, while I've rarely seen him foul out in NBA

Not sure if he got screwed or if it was mostly on him and team USA not being well prepared and not enough "cheat codes" to compensate it.

[baseline bum]

Don't recall the details but mostly he struggled to adapts to FIBA rules and probably wasn't prepared for it.

He also was part of the weakest Dream Team assembled. Kobe or Shaq refused to come.

I recall him fouling out couple times, while I've rarely seen him foul out in NBA

Not sure if he got screwed or if it was mostly on him and team USA not being well prepared and not enough "cheat codes" to compensate it.

Kobe was on trial for rape and Tim was in constant foul trouble. Larry Brown also kept LeBron, Wade, and Melo glued to the bench in his infinite wisdom.

[Trueblood]

I don't actually remember what happened. Was he getting screwed over by the officiating with cheap fouls? Does anyone remember watching the games?

Hopefully Victor can dig deep and come up with a massive game tomorrow. I believe he will.

I was actually stationed in Germany during this time and I was able to go watch one of their games with my oldest. Just from my observations of the game and the ones I caught on AFN the entire team was struggling with FIBA rules. It was a hot mess. They had no chemistry and they didn’t understand the rules.

[dn0774]

I remember watching those 2004 games and Timmy was constantly saddled with ticky tack fouls on defense and and teams packed the paint when he tried to get his post game going. That 2004 team didn't have any shooters on it (most of the best players didn't want to go due to terrorism concerns iirc) and teams crowded Tim with zero repercussions. Look to the 2003 Tournament of the Americas that Team USA won handily (beat Argentina by 33 in gold medal game) with a much better overall constructed roster in which Tim played great for a glimpse at what should've been for 2004.

[Limguogolo]

He is learning the hard way and gaining a huge boost in experience. It is never too good to be dominant too young or to only play regular season games which delude you into the idea that games without impact and without stakes will make you progress. There's a lot of pressure on this twenty-year-old; he's making a ton of mistakes; he's frustrated; he's not the dominant young man he could have hoped to be while playing 2K with cheat codes; he learns that other players on the team can be more useful than him; he learns that the light can legitimately shine on other players; and he has the great luxury despite all these failures, despite all these positive doubts… to win and be a medalist at 20 in his home Olympics. When he will play his first NBA Finals, he will have the impression of having already experienced this, and he will know how to manage if he starts badly. Consider yourself lucky that Wemby can have an accelerated learning curve and a little exercise in humility, because it will all benefit Spurs in the long run.

Regarding the myth of players needing to rest, most athletes need a few days of rest, the rest of the time they continue to work hard. He has already had this time off between the regular season and the start of preparation for the Olympics. He will have a few days again starting next week, and he will start getting to work again very quickly with more specific exercises. No athlete requires five months of rest: when you return to training, it will take you that long to get back to your previous form. The majority of athletes (including basketball players) train hard during the off-season.

He is tired, yes, because the competition is tough. Again, this is perfect for his experience. He learns to manage his efforts, select his shots and play exhausted.

[JPB]

It's true many of his 3s are open, that's why I don't believe blaming the system or FIBA ball really stand. He didn't really hit the rookie wall this year in the NBA and gave is all for the ROTY run, so he could be gassed indeed.

[Brazil]

There is no doubt he is simply gassed, I’m happy he did not injure himself… he has no gas left in the fourth where he usually does damage

[Pauleta14]

It's true many of his 3s are open, that's why I don't believe blaming the system or FIBA ball really stand. He didn't really hit the rookie wall this year in the NBA and gave is all for the ROTY run, so he could be gassed indeed.

I agree

He also missed tons of gimmies and bank shots he usually makes in his sleep

He needs to find a way to get loose

[TD 21]

Kobe was on trial for rape and Tim was in constant foul trouble. Larry Brown also kept LeBron, Wade, and Melo glued to the bench in his infinite wisdom.

They were in their infancy. Far more damaging was the absence of any MVP caliber player outside of Duncan. You mentioned Bryant, but also: O'Neal, Garnett, McGrady. Even most of the second tier was missing save for Iverson: Kidd, Carter, Pierce, Allen, Billups, the Wallace's, Brand, (Jermaine) O'Neal, etc.

Beyond the relative lack of talent, there was no organization. I don't believe there was a training camp or scouting of other countries, nor even so much as a crash course in the different rules/officiating standards and there damn sure wasn't a "3 year commitment" (which followed the debacle).

[baseline bum]

They were in their infancy. Far more damaging was the absence of any MVP caliber player outside of Duncan. You mentioned Bryant, but also: O'Neal, Garnett, McGrady. Even most of the second tier was missing save for Iverson: Kidd, Carter, Pierce, Allen, Billups, the Wallace's, Brand, (Jermaine) O'Neal, etc.

Beyond the relative lack of talent, there was no organization. I don't believe there was a training camp or scouting of other countries, nor even so much as a crash course in the different rules/officiating standards and there damn sure wasn't a "3 year commitment" (which followed the debacle).

Ben Wallace, Elton Brand, and Jermaine O'Neal had gotten undressed by Scola, Nocioni, and Oberto in the 2002 World Championships while Pierce was getting skullfucked by Manu and I don't think any of them wanted any part of that public disgrace again in the Olympics. :lol

[spurraider21]

They were in their infancy. Far more damaging was the absence of any MVP caliber player outside of Duncan. You mentioned Bryant, but also: O'Neal, Garnett, McGrady. Even most of the second tier was missing save for Iverson: Kidd, Carter, Pierce, Allen, Billups, the Wallace's, Brand, (Jermaine) O'Neal, etc.

Beyond the relative lack of talent, there was no organization. I don't believe there was a training camp or scouting of other countries, nor even so much as a crash course in the different rules/officiating standards and there damn sure wasn't a "3 year commitment" (which followed the debacle).
A lot of the high end players were active in the qualifiers then withdrew before the actual tourney

they qualified through the fiba america tourney and only 3 players from that squad remained committed to the Olympic team. Duncan, Iverson, and your namesake, Richard Jefferson

duncan was the only all-nba player on the squad (Iverson made it basically every year in that stretch except 04)

[spurraider21]

Ben Wallace, Elton Brand, and Jermaine O'Neal had gotten undressed by Scola, Nocioni, and Oberto in the 2002 World Championships while Pierce was getting skullfucked by Manu and I don't think any of them wanted any part of that public disgrace again in the Olympics. :lol
That US team with O’Neal, wallace, etc destroyed Argentina by 30+ in the 2003 fiba America’s finals which is what qualified both team for the 04 Olympics

[poopbox]

Also…

he has seemingly played year round at this point…

im hoping he takes a few weeks off before he gets to work on his upcoming mvp season…

I actually hope the Spurs let him rest some even if it means barely playing to start the season.

Wemby has played basketball almost non stop for over a year. And the little break he had between the summer league and season he must have been working out like crazy cause he was noticeably more muscular to start last year than he was in summer
league

[Chomag]

He's still not even old enough to drink yet. He will be fine lol

[Splits]

He's still not even old enough to drink yet. He will be fine lol

Umm drinking age is 16 in France

[RD2191]

Scrub. Trade him.

[Pauleta14]

Umm drinking age is 16 in France

Sure... :lol

[lefty20]

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Wtf is wrong with this kid?

[J_Paco]

Nah I disagree. At least he can make a layup now and again unlike Wesley.

The brain rot is real in this fan base and website.

Facts over moronic, incorrect feelings:

Evan Fournier - 79/221 (35.7%) and 9/22 (40.9%) on layups

Malachi Branham - 271/628 (43.2%) and 88/149 (59.1%) on layups

Blake Wesley - 102/215 (47.4) and 49/91 (53.8%) on layups

Evan Fournier sucked last season and he's less of an NBA player than either Wesley or Brahnam, so any rational fan wouldn't want him anywhere near this team.


Fournier is worse than either of them, and would do better than NBA minimum in Europe.

Thankfully, not everyone on this site is a blithering imbecile like the guy hoping the Spurs sign Fournier.

I suspect the Spurs are going to limit Wembanyama's minutes for a second consecutive season because of this extra mileage.

[Arcadian]

1822399011363438616


Not bad choices, but I feel like Durant probably should be in there.

[sfernald]

The brain rot is real in this fan base and website.

Facts over moronic, incorrect feelings:

Evan Fournier - 79/221 (35.7%) and 9/22 (40.9%) on layups

Malachi Branham - 271/628 (43.2%) and 88/149 (59.1%) on layups

Blake Wesley - 102/215 (47.4) and 49/91 (53.8%) on layups

Evan Fournier sucked last season and he's less of an NBA player than either Wesley or Brahnam, so any rational fan wouldn't want him anywhere near this team.



Thankfully, not everyone on this site is a blithering imbecile like the guy hoping the Spurs sign Fournier.

I suspect the Spurs are going to limit Wembanyama's minutes for a second consecutive season because of this extra mileage.

wrf did you watch these Olympic Games at all? He was one of the best players in the tourney. Wesley wouldn’t even be allowed to sit on the end of the bench there, unless he happened to have Norwegian in him or something.

And man relax a little. You seem like you are about to have a heart attack over this conversation. That’s just pathetic.

[Limguogolo]

Fournier is finito. His only contribution during these Olympic Games was to have pushed Collet to change his policy during the tournament and to have scored an important three points. For the rest, even if he showed good defensive predispositions, I don't really see what he would do at Spurs. Yabusele, on the other hand, is a different story (but I doubt that any franchise could offer him the slightest project given what he knows in the best club in Europe).

[Splits]

Sure... :lol

ok, sorry 18. 16 here in Switzerland

[cutewizard]

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[cutewizard]

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[cutewizard]

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[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSLUIvkhWsw

[Pauleta14]

ok, sorry 18. 16 here in Switzerland

I was being sarcastic the other way :lol

You still find ppl giving alchool to their kids so they fall asleep

I was being served alchool in bars at 14

[J_Paco]

wrf did you watch these Olympic Games at all? He was one of the best players in the tourney. Wesley wouldn’t even be allowed to sit on the end of the bench there, unless he happened to have Norwegian in him or something.

And man relax a little. You seem like you are about to have a heart attack over this conversation. That’s just pathetic.

Him "playing well" during a short international tournament doesn't mean anything about his ability to still play in the NBA. He is 'washed' (as the kids say) as a NBA player and both Branham & Wesley are better than him.

And I like how you ignore how piss poor his NBA stats were and jump to nonsense about 'Wesley can't even make the team.' Fournier made team France mostly based on seniority and chemistry, not because he's still a capable or quality player.

[Tyronn Lue]

If all you consider is shooting efficiency, sure. Overall he's still being a very impactful player while playing within a system that doesn't always feature him.
Which he trained for during his rookie season.

[Tyronn Lue]

Not bad choices, but I feel like Durant probably should be in there.
Realistically you could have 4 US players and Jokic.

[sfernald]

Him "playing well" during a short international tournament doesn't mean anything about his ability to still play in the NBA. He is 'washed' (as the kids say) as a NBA player and both Branham & Wesley are better than him.

And I like how you ignore how piss poor his NBA stats were and jump to nonsense about 'Wesley can't even make the team.' Fournier made team France mostly based on seniority and chemistry, not because he's still a capable or quality player.

If you google fournier, specifically just his last name ‘Fournier’ I think you’ll understand then ;)

[sfernald]

If you google fournier, specifically just his last name ‘Fournier’ I think you’ll understand then ;)

But seriously I don’t think his nba stats from the past couple years are relevant to his abilities at all. He has been sat on the bench by Tibbs and not played relevant minutes. Mostly he was out of rotation and he’s one of these players that needs regular minutes to get his thing going I guess you could say. If I thought he was finished I definitely wouldn’t be interested. I don’t think Wemby needs French friends on the team, but I mean I think getting a French vet for him would be useful. I would have preferred Batum, I love his warrior attitude. And honestly I saw that Yab guy too and man if we could get him away from Spain somehow I think it would be useful. That guy can play.

i was also just fucking around on the layup joke, that was just a common meme of SP. it’s better than the endless 29356 pick swap joke around here lol. But the stats you came up with were actually kind of interesting.

[Chomag]

Even at this stage of his career I would love the Spurs to pick up Batum just to have his professional presence in the locker room alone (although I still think he could contribute on the floor) Dude is a major class act

[tonight...you]

Even at this stage of his career I would love the Spurs to pick up Batum just to have his professional presence in the locker room alone (although I still think he could contribute on the floor) Dude is a major class act
Dude's in LA.

[J_Paco]

But seriously I don’t think his nba stats from the past couple years are relevant to his abilities at all. He has been sat on the bench by Tibbs and not played relevant minutes. Mostly he was out of rotation and he’s one of these players that needs regular minutes to get his thing going I guess you could say. If I thought he was finished I definitely wouldn’t be interested. I don’t think Wemby needs French friends on the team, but I mean I think getting a French vet for him would be useful. I would have preferred Batum, I love his warrior attitude. And honestly I saw that Yab guy too and man if we could get him away from Spain somehow I think it would be useful. That guy can play.

i was also just fucking around on the layup joke, that was just a common meme of SP. it’s better than the endless 29356 pick swap joke around here lol. But the stats you came up with were actually kind of interesting.
Brother, he's just not good anymore.
I would've loved to have had him 3 or 4 years ago when he was a volume 3-point shooter & double-digit scorer that the team (still) sorely needs.

He has had a good NBA career, but his defense makes him unplayable at this point plus he's become inefficient from outside (shot 25.4% last season and 30.7% the season prior). Obviously, the smaller sample size is likely hurting his percentages but he doesn't bring anything else to the table if his shot isn't falling.

He could probably go to Europe and get paid well, while playing significantly more minutes and having a much larger role.

[Brazil]

Fournier sucks always has

[exstatic]

Fournier sucks always has

He was pretty good his first few years in Denver, but after that,yeah.