VP Debate thread

[Blake]

Is Vance wearing guyliner

[Ef-man]

Is Vance wearing guyliner

The eyeliner compliments his pink tie.

[Ef-man]

Tim is doing a good job at this speed debating.

Well spoken and well prepared.

[Ef-man]

They cut Vance for exceeding time

[Ef-man]

Wow, Tim is sharp, night and day performance vs Vance sticking to Yam Tits’ obfuscation.

Especially on economy.

[Winehole23]

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https://x.com/shwinyo/status/1841283455805542765

[MultiTroll]

Margaret Brennan is doing awesome at cutting thru the deflections.
She's cute too.

[Blake]

Actually I think Vance does present well, even if it is all just Trump boot licking bullshit. Plenty of stupid Americans that will vote for this guy with the perfectly trimmed beard that just keeps repeating he grew up like Wild Cobra did and had it rough growing up

[MultiTroll]

These two mod chicks and their super specific questions. :toast

[MultiTroll]

Vance is not nearly as horrible as i thought he would be.

Still a mega douchebag and strictly a Trump bootlicker.

[Ef-man]

Actually I think Vance does present well, even if it is all just Trump boot licking bullshit. Plenty of stupid Americans that will vote for this guy with the perfectly trimmed beard that just keeps repeating he grew up like Wild Cobra did and had it rough growing up

Vance just came up with Catholic nuns being sued for not wanting to perform abortions :lol

Next thing he will bring up a nun proctologist not wanting to check a man’s prostrate.

[Blake]

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/fact-check-vp-debate-2024/

CBS got the fact checking going

[Ef-man]

Vance: illegal immigrants are bringing illegal guns to US.

WTF????

[Blake]

Vance: illegal immigrants are bringing illegal guns to US.

WTF????

Right because these school shootings are from teenagers that got guns from their parents who got guns illegally from Mexico

[Trainwreck2100]

Vance is not nearly as horrible as i thought he would be.

Still a mega douchebag and strictly a Trump bootlicker.

his slimeball ass is perfect for debates, went to yale law, worked in communication in the marines. Has been sucking venture capitalist dick for years

[Blake]

" Vance: “The people that I'm most worried about in Springfield, Ohio, are the American citizens who have had their lives destroyed by Kamala Harris's open border.”

This claim is false..."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/live/walz-vance-vp-debate-live-updates-and-fact-checks-as-candidates-face-off-123441921.html

[Winehole23]

no lie detected.

y'all for real wanna deport 10-15 million people?


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https://x.com/alex_shephard/status/1841279803900506399

[Ef-man]

Vance: ducks cannot buy a home because of illegal aliens

[Trainwreck2100]

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https://x.com/alex_shephard/status/1841279803900506399



Who gives a fuck about mass deportations, the seizing federal lines is a worse fucking idea

[ChumpDumper]

Who gives a fuck about mass deportations, the seizing federal lines is a worse fucking idea
:lol national forests full of Randy Weavers

[Ef-man]

:lol national forests full of Randy Weavers

Who would want to live on federal lands in AZ????

[Trainwreck2100]

Who would want to live in federal lands in AZ????

It's a scam to give away all our oil fields

[Trainwreck2100]

JD saying Trump didn't try and kill Obamacare

[Spurs Homer]

Now the lies start coming out fast and furious…from vance

[Ef-man]

JD saying Trump didn't try and kill Obamacare

It was only a concept of a plan to repeal and replace Obamacare so there is that.

[ChumpDumper]

Now the lies start coming out fast and furious…from vance

This debate will be declared "basically a tie."

[SnakeBoy]

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[Trainwreck2100]

Waltz pleading with America to understand how insurance works with that teacher voice was pretty hilarious

[DMX7]

Is Vance wearing guyliner

Doesn't he always look like that?

[ChumpDumper]

Doesn't he always look like that?

He always wears guyliner.

[Spurs Homer]

This debate will be declared "basically a tie."


pretty much

which will keep kamala ahead…

[Ef-man]

Not sure of Vance.

He keeps bringing up about being a married man but sounds as though he is not a confident heterosexual.

[Blake]

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Right that's exactly what he was saying

[Ef-man]

Vance: “I want to defend my running mate” :wow :wow

[ChumpDumper]

pretty muchEspecially if Vance loses.

[Spurs Homer]

Walz really needs to point out a huge lie that vance is repeating over and over and over;

Vance is doing that “trumps record was a great economy, blah blah - “ and when he says this- he is always EXCLUDING trumps 4th year- as if only years 1 thru 3 should be considered…

Walz needs to hammer the 4th year/COVID disaster that trump fucked up the country on…

[Ef-man]

Vance on 62 Yam Tits lawsuits to not certify the 2020 election: Censorship is worse than insurrection

[MultiTroll]

"The same as 500K of Facebook ads."

What a spineless cowardice answer by Guyliner on Jan 6th.

[Spurs Homer]

Vance again false equivocating

[Spurs Homer]

Damning non-answer

big point scored by walz

[Blake]

I still think democrats don't hit Trump being a felon hard enough.

[Spurs Homer]

I still think democrats don't hit Trump being a felon hard enough.

absolutely

walz should have had this line prepared: “Mr vance, you said trump was americas hitler- but you said that BEFORE trump was convicted of 34 felonies by a jury of his peers, why?”

[gambit1990]

i thought walz was gonna do better tbh. not that this debate was gonna change the outcome of the election, obviously.

he was composed and did fine but i thought he'd be a little more fiery.

[CosmicCowboy]

I would be ok with kicking Trump and kamala to the curb and letting these two guys run the country.

[gambit1990]

i think it's easy to say that tim's approval stays around the same. but vance's went up.

vance actually seemed like a person for once.

[Blake]

I would be ok with kicking Trump and kamala to the curb and letting these two guys run the country.

Both sides cowboy making his appearance

[ChumpDumper]

I would be ok with kicking Trump and kamala to the curb and letting these two guys run the country.

I do not want Peter Thiel's pet anywhere near the presidency.

[CosmicCowboy]

Both sides cowboy making his appearance

Loser Blake making his...

[Blake]

Loser Blake making his...

Spoken like a true Trumptard

[ducks]

https://x.com/FrankLuntz/status/1841310671281197280

12-2 tonight Trump and Vance

[gambit1990]

polymarket had the odds of walz winning per polls at 70% before the debate. it's at 35% rn.

[ChumpDumper]

polymarket:lol

[gambit1990]

luckily for walz... even if walz had destroyed vance, everyone who was gonna vote trump still would have.

[gambit1990]

am curious about how much this will affect "swing" voters.

[Millennial_Messiah]

I would be ok with kicking Trump and kamala to the curb and letting these two guys run the country.

Except, Walz wants to increase the income tax across the board by 10%, and he confirmed that he would bring back the dreaded individual mandate of Obamacare, which enjoyed a paltry 19% national approval rating as of 2014.

Vance only interrupted Walz once -- on that very issue -- asking Walz specifically if he and Kamala would re-institute the individual mandate -- and once Walz affirmed yes, Vance smirked and knew he had that debate won not just for him but for Trump. That's going to be a big problem for the Dems now that that third rail was brought back, incidentally, by Walz.

Vance won the debate, and it wasn't close. Sure, he should have said something dry about 2020 like "sure - Biden got 81 million, Trump got 75 million, final score, let's move on" but he didn't completely dodge the issue but rather clearly state he wasn't interested in re-litigating 2020 but rather moving forward. A decent, though not the best, finesse job. Sure, Vance should have answered the question about separating families with discussing ending birthright citizenship, which is something I think needs to be pursued on a bipartisan level, but I don't think most Democrats would ever support it because they want the votes.

Vance: B+
Walz: C-



am curious about how much this will affect "swing" voters.

Sure, Vance just not being weird and playing Walz to a draw would have affected them to the right, but Vance outright winning and acting like an actual president unlike the other three clowns out of the four running, moves the needle amongst independents pretty massively tbh.

[ducks]

CNN's John King says "Republicans are happy tonight and Democrats a little bit nervous" as Tim Walz did nothing to narrow Kamala's deficit on the top two issues of the race.

[DMX7]

He always wears guyliner.

He looks like he belongs in A Clockwork Orange.

[Ef-man]

i think it's easy to say that tim's approval stays around the same. but vance's went up.

vance actually seemed like a person for once.

That is a quite a bar for Vance to reach, "looks like a person for once."

Same thing with Dracula; he is portrayed as a villain but he cleans up well.

[Ef-man]

Spoken like a true Trumptard

Supporting Vance because on climate change he said: “Let’s just say that’s true, just for the sake of argument, so we’re not arguing about weird science. Let’s just say that’s true”

[Spurs Homer]

Vance was able to keep a straight face when lying about trump “peacefully transferring power”

he is a trump-trained liar and is probably a better and more dangerous liar

[ChumpDumper]

Vance was able to keep a straight face when lying about trump “peacefully transferring power”

he is a trump-trained liar and is probably a better and more dangerous liar

Peter Thiel is counting on it.

[MultiTroll]

luckily for Vance... even if walz had destroyed vance, everyone who was gonna vote trump still would have.
fixed

[Spurs Homer]

Peter Theil is counting on it.


$$$$$$$$$$

[ducks]

Media reactions after the JD Vance vs. Tim Walz debate.

Geraldo Rivera: JD Vance won the debate.

NBC: Does Tim Walz have a problem with the truth?

Chris Cuomo: JD Vance fact-checked the moderators and he was right.

CNN's John King: Vance carried the important issues.

CNN's Jake Tapper: JD Vance is a better debater.

MSNBC: *Live meltdown

[ChumpDumper]

Media reactions after the JD Vance vs. Tim Walz debate.

Geraldo Rivera:lmao

[benefactor]

Media reactions after the JD Vance vs. Tim Walz debate.

Geraldo Rivera: JD Vance won the debate.

NBC: Does Tim Walz have a problem with the truth?

Chris Cuomo: JD Vance fact-checked the moderators and he was right.

CNN's John King: Vance carried the important issues.

CNN's Jake Tapper: JD Vance is a better debater.

MSNBC: *Live meltdown
JD Vance: Trump is an idiot.

[Millennial_Messiah]

JD Vance: Trump is an idiot.
But less of an idiot than the other three (Biden, Harris, and Walz).

Vance for President tbh, dump Trump off the ballot, it's not that he's too old he just never was that amazing to begin with

but I'd still grudgingly support Trump over the (D) alternative


Side note: I still don't get why Kamala didn't draft Shapiro. You gain a massive upper hand in the most important swing state in the election and you gain someone who's well spoken, smart, and articulate, and well experienced with debating. Rather than this dumb old schmuck who's a partisan hack leftist, a liar, a big government shill who doesn't have the stones to call out the big asset manager companies (BlackRock, Blackstone, Vanguard, etc) regarding the housing questions in the debate, and a fake populist who is a Chinese communist sympathizer and charges all of his state's citizens 10% on their earned income in addition to everything they have to pay the IRS. And resorts to "but muh Dick Cheney and Taylor Swift"... laughable. And, let's not forget, he is friends with the school shooters. The school shooters, they are Tim Walz's friends; it came out of his very mouth.

Side note 2: Vance is also guilty for only blaming the housing shortage and high house prices on illegals and lack of building on BLM land. While that is somewhat part of the problem, the BigAsset oligarch companies such that those I mentioned are the biggest problems, and there needs to be some sort of a federally regulated profit cap and wealth cap on those corporate businesses in that industry such that only say 10% of all single-family homes in each state and only in certain communities can be allowed to be investment properties used as rentals. I'm a strong proponent of federally enforced wealth caps on large corporations. That would be a very populist, based answer. Go after the big oligarchs. They are corrupt and dirty and finance the Dems anyway.

[FrostKing]

https://i.ibb.co/yYRcXTp/Screenshot-20241002-124953-Chrome.jpg

Yup. Been saying it

The contrast in grown adult priorities

The Left is out of touch with the World in 2024. I'm sure it's a hit on teenagers tick tock. Election day will be a test on the maturity level of the average American citizen.

[hater]

:lmao waltz

What a disaster :lmao

https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1841353820900675687

[z0sa]

The debate was relatively even and felt very normal by Trump standards. It’s clear Trump is and will continue to be the primary catalyst for a significant portion of the nastiness in American politics as long as he’s actively participating. There’s a very real sense that once he’s gone, our country might actually start moving forward again.

[LkrFan]

JV is younger and a more eloquent liar than Rump
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Of course he'd get mad for being fact checked. :rolleyes

This lie is putting Haitians in danger. Eff him and Rump.

[MultiTroll]

Was or was not Walz at Tieneman Square during the attack?

He looked like "busted" when asked and then gave a long politician type answer.
I expect that from Trump puppet but not Walz.

[MultiTroll]

Guyliiner Pink Tie tries to spin Jan 6th as the same as 500K spent on Facebook.

And some are calling this debate a phucking tie?

[leemajors]

I do not want Peter Thiel's pet anywhere near the presidency.

or more Rad Trads in the highest levels of govt. Stacking the SC with them is evil

[Trainwreck2100]

:lmao waltz

What a disaster :lmao

https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1841353820900675687

He thinks JD is dumber than him

[Blake]

:lmao waltz

What a disaster :lmao

https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1841353820900675687

Trump is definitely dumber than all of them. Did you know he is a felon? Yeah, it's because he's that dumb.

[MultiTroll]

The fact checks are in and predictably Trump Boot Licker lied so many times.

Walz giving that weird Tienaman Square answer. He should have just fessed up. Thought he was going to when he opened with the moderaters with something like 'have i made knucklehead statements in the past, i sure have." But then he went into defense liar mode. It wasn't full on Trumplike but it was tainted nonetheless. He should have known the entire audience and anyone with a functioning brain knew Guyliner Pink Tie would be exposed for countless lies so he should have just owned up to his one lie.

[TSA]

The fact checks are in and predictably Trump Boot Licker lied so many times.

Walz giving that weird Tienaman Square answer. He should have just fessed up. Thought he was going to when he opened with the moderaters with something like 'have i made knucklehead statements in the past, i sure have." But then he went into defense liar mode. It wasn't full on Trumplike but it was tainted nonetheless. He should have known the entire audience and anyone with a functioning brain knew Guyliner Pink Tie would be exposed for countless lies so he should have just owned up to his one lie.

https://x.com/JitneyGuy/status/1841554440307998804

[ChumpDumper]

https://x.com/JitneyGuy/status/1841554440307998804

Kind of ironic considering Trump's 9/11 stories.

Trump's lies OK tho.

[FrostKing]

:lmao waltz

What a disaster :lmao

https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1841353820900675687
Ouch

The evening shift Manager at Kamala's McDonalds

[koriwhat]

Those bug eyes from Walz last night.... We sure he ain't on that J.D. ViVance?