Preseason Grades: Spurs vs Thunder - Oct. 7, 2024

[timvp]

https://www.spurstalk.com/grades-spurs-thunder-2025-preseason-1/

Had to include a grade for the new Jacob Tobey.

[John B]

Thanks for the grades Timvp. On point once again! I wanted the win over OKC. But they played vets while we had most of our starters out, so. I want to see more of Castle with the rock. I really thought he could play the Demar-type combo and facilitate some. I don’t like the idea of not starting our top 4 pick and not get him the chance at ROY. I rather Barnes at 4, and Sochan plays off the bench.:

[onechance87]

I hope pop dont fcxk around and have guys like branham and wesley over castle.And surely mamu should get a chance
to get playing time over collins.

[Dejounte]

There was clear chemistry between Wesley and Castle tbh, not sure if anyone caught that.

Steph isn’t a 3 but they might be forced to play him there a few if both Branham and Wesley keep it up. But if either shit the bed with inconsistency, the Spurs have the luxury to play Castle even more, eventually supplanting one of them permanently.

Premature regular season lineup:

Paul/ Tre/ Wesley/ Flynn
Vassell/ Castle/ Branham
Barnes/ Champ/ Keldon
Sochan/ Sandro/ Sidy
Wemby/ Collins/ Bassey

[Dejounte]

PG: Paul
PG: Tre
PG: Flynn
G: Wesley
G: Branham
GW: Castle
W: Vassell
WF: Champ
F: Barnes
F: Keldon
F: Sidy
BFC: Sochan
BFC: Sandro
C: Wemby
C: Collins
C: Bassey

PG = PG position only
G = can play both PG and SG
GW = can play PG, SG, and SF
W = can play SG, SF
WF = can play SG, SF, and PF
F = can play both SF and PF
BFC = can play both PF and C
C = C position only

versatility galore

[tbdog]

We lack serious shooting. It'll be nice if Branham was a good shooter despite is other shortcomings.

[Dejounte]

My prediction is that the following players are out (and everyone else is kept) by this summer:

-Keldon
-Branham or Wesley, not both (I think Branham is the one chosen to be removed)
-Tre Jones
-Collins

So could a package of Keldon + Branham + Tre + Collins get us something nice? A bag of peanuts, maybe?

[onechance87]

We should start mamu for shooting in the pf spot.Cant have another year of spacing issues that will affect wemby,Cause his teammates
cant fucking shoot.Sochan may have to go to the bench.

[Ice009]

I liked what I saw from Steph tonight. I would have actually liked to have seen him look to score more often. There's players on the team jacking up shots left, right and center that probably shouldn't be.

Mamu was good too. Definitely shows a high IQ out there. Can anyone tell me why it was even a question of bringing him back? I think he's clearly much better than a few of the players on the team, but it seemed like it was a late decision to even bring him back. Doesn't make sense to me.

[Dejounte]

I liked what I saw from Steph tonight. I would have actually liked to have seen him look to score more often. There's players on the team jacking up shots left, right and center that probably shouldn't be.

Mamu was good too. Definitely shows a high IQ out there. Can anyone tell me why it was even a question of bringing him back? I think he's better clearly much better than a few of the players on the team, but it seemed like it was a late decision to even bring him back. Doesn't make sense to me.

Negotiation tactic, tbh. Why outbid yourself for a guy who really wants to be here? There was no market for Sandro. It’s a smart move for them while keeping his price low. May be able to extend him for multiple years after this one if he does well.

[Ice009]

Riley Minix also looks like a really good shooter and can also maybe shoot at this level (it's only one game, but I liked his shot and confidence taking those shots).

As for Mamu, it didn't feel like a negotiating tactic to me, it felt like they weren't keen on bringing him back. Maybe I'm wrong on that, but just seemed for a minute there where it was looking like they're not going to bring him back at all.

[Dejounte]

Riley Minix also looks like a really good shooter and can also maybe shoot at this level (it's only one game, but I liked his shot and confidence taking those shots).

As for Mamu, it didn't feel like a negotiating tactic to me, it felt like they weren't keen on bringing him back. Maybe I'm wrong on that, but just seemed for a minute there where it was looking like they're not going to bring him back at all.

The guy was there with the team ALL summer without a contract. He was there with the team in summer league, practices, offseason hangout photos, Castle’s introduction after he was drafted — if you paid attention to all that, he very clearly was going to be here.

[exstatic]

We should start mamu for shooting in the pf spot.Cant have another year of spacing issues that will affect wemby,Cause his teammates
cant fucking shoot.Sochan may have to go to the bench.

That Job will be for Barnes.

[onechance87]

That Job will be for Barnes.

Theres still gonna be spacing issues cause barnes aint a shooter like that either.Sochan and barnes starting wont work.
Rather have to two good shooters next to wemby like mamu and barnes or even champ.Sochan cant shoot like that
to space the floor.Got more confidence in mamu to do that.

[heyheymymy]

Coach CP3 is going to pay dividends in the long run. They showed a graphic during the game tonight all the bumps in team win percentage after CP3 was with the different clubs he's played for. +.200 +.100, he brings a wealth of knowledge.

https://x.com/nateryansports/status/1843499271154282798

[exstatic]

Theres still gonna be spacing issues cause barnes aint a shooter like that either.Sochan and barnes starting wont work.
Rather have to two good shooters next to wemby like mamu and barnes or even champ.Sochan cant shoot like that
to space the floor.Got more confidence in mamu to do that.

Career

Barnes 1283-3382 38%
Mamu 71-215 33%

Come again? And Mamu/ Barnes is too porous defensively. Everything Mamu gives you on offense he takes back on the other end.

[Pauleta14]

My prediction is that the following players are out (and everyone else is kept) by this summer:

-Keldon
-Branham or Wesley, not both (I think Branham is the one chosen to be removed)
-Tre Jones
-Collins

So could a package of Keldon + Branham + Tre + Collins get us something nice? A bag of peanuts, maybe?

As much as I agree,

Tre is Pop's new pet and I'm afraid he'll be extended

Finding a 6th man profile isn't easy and I can see Keldon having a shot one last season

Can't see Collins moved with scrubs like Kesller worth 2 FR picks

[Dejounte]

As much as I agree,

Tre is Pop's new pet and I'm afraid he'll be extended

Finding a 6th man profile isn't easy and I can see Keldon having a shot one last season

Can't see Collins moved with scrubs like Kesller worth 2 FR picks

White was Pop’s pet. The Spurs have proven that they’ll let a player go if they can yield a decent return.

[Pauleta14]

White was Pop’s pet. The Spurs have proven that they’ll let a player go if they can yield a decent return.

If it wasn't for PATFO tanking I don't think Tre would be in the league, or not with a 10M/season deal. He brings nothing

Huge respect bc he's an overachiever, but I just don't see why a team would trade for him

[onechance87]

White was Pop’s pet. The Spurs have proven that they’ll let a player go if they can yield a decent return.

white got us couple 1st round picks.Doubt tre jones cant get us one second round pick.

[widowmaker]

I see the spurs are still using the collapse 4 on the drive defense and then try to get back to defend the 3 on the hot potato pass around the 3 line

[exstatic]

If it wasn't for PATFO tanking I don't think Tre would be in the league, or not with a 10M/season deal. He brings nothing

Huge respect bc he's an overachiever, but I just don't see why a team would trade for him

Trades aren’t 100% about player value. Especially these days, in the era of the second apron, they are in large part about contract value. Do you think that any of those 3 players that NY signed to deals $1 over the NBA minimum for the specific purpose of trading them to Charlotte so that NY’s outgoing salaries were > their incoming salaries had any NBA player value?

[John B]

I see the spurs are still using the collapse 4 on the drive defense and then try to get back to defend the 3 on the hot potato pass around the 3 line

I think that changes when you have either Wemby/Bassey protecting the middle.

[John B]

If it wasn't for PATFO tanking I don't think Tre would be in the league, or not with a 10M/season deal. He brings nothing

Huge respect bc he's an overachiever, but I just don't see why a team would trade for him

Tre is a solid backup PG. His assist/TO is up there with his brother.

[Pauleta14]

Trades aren’t 100% about player value. Especially these days, in the era of the second apron, they are in large part about contract value. Do you think that any of those 3 players that NY signed to deals $1 over the NBA minimum for the specific purpose of trading them to Charlotte so that NY’s outgoing salaries were > their incoming salaries had any NBA player value?

I'm aware but Tre's situation is more complex

It's the last year of a 10M/y deal and considering Pop's affection for him I just don't see him being traded for his expiring deal

Pop loves the guy, dgaf and isn't in a rush, this season is just step 2 and even if he'll never admit it he's not motivated by winning. I don't see any move coming

[Pauleta14]

Tre is a solid backup PG. His assist/TO is up there with his brother.

His stats are an illusion, most of his assists are on the perimeter and nowadays if you just hand the ball at the 3 pts line and the teammate does all the work, you'll end up with an assist (TP would've had A LOT more assists with his "4 down" to Timmy if they conted the same way in his era)
+ Tre is smart and doesn't try anything he's not good at, he rarely passes below the FT line for ex and rarely tries a lob pass mostly to avoid a TO

After the ASG Devin even became Wemby's best passer bc at least he worked on it and really tried whereas Tre remained at best conservative and kept passing the ball on the perimeter mostly

In the end, at best he doesn't move the needle, at worst he's a liability on defense bc of his size and on offense bc he can't shoot the 3

[John B]

His stats are an illusion, most of his assists are on the perimeter and nowadays if you just hand the ball at the 3 pts line and the teammate does all the work, you'll end up with an assist (TP would've had A LOT more assists with his "4 down" to Timmy if they conted the same way in his era)
+ Tre is smart and doesn't try anything he's not good at, he rarely passes below the FT line for ex and rarely tries a lob pass mostly to avoid a TO

After the ASG Devin even became Wemby's best passer bc at least he worked on it and really tried whereas Tre remained at best conservative and kept passing the ball on the perimeter mostly

In the end, at best he doesn't move the needle, at worst he's a liability on defense bc of his size and on offense bc he can't shoot the 3

Your hatred for Tre is showing. If you YouTube lob pass to Wemby, you’ll see most from Tre:

https://youtu.be/Ywf7ebAuTEA?si=v8fPqAXNIR1b0x5T

here’s another one
https://youtube.com/shorts/rqFjB2x6fGQ?si=mZdrFPRCu3RU26-e

[The Truth #6]

I just saw a little bit of the game here and there. Saw the moments where Mamu was draining threes, and I do think he could have an impact with the starters greater than his talent level would suggest. I don't know, still trying to make sense of that game last night and what I did see, but it mostly looks extremely disappointing. Didn't really seem like anyone had shown major improvement over the summer, though I would like to see more of Blake to make a firm opinion. Also, the team probably has a real identity challenge when Victor is not out there, but yeah it is starting to feel like some of these young players are just going to be complimentary players. So gut reaction, yeah that's disappointing, but it's only one game.

[onechance87]

Tre is a solid backup PG. His assist/TO is up there with his brother.

tre is barely a backup pg.Dude is a poor shooter and average passer.We gotta upgrade that pg postion with a pg that can shoot and playmaker.
Shame we passed on dilly.

[John B]

tre is barely a backup pg.Dude is a poor shooter and average passer.We gotta upgrade that pg postion with a pg that can shoot and playmaker.
Shame we passed on dilly.

If people are worried about Tre’s defense, Dilly will be worst. Sure Dilly can score but he’s a liability on defense especially in playoffs. And for an 8th pick that you can’t play in the playoffs because of defensive liability, Dilly would be a waste of a top 8th pick.

[onechance87]

If people are worried about Tre’s defense, Dilly will be worst. Sure Dilly can score but he’s a liability on defense especially in playoffs. And for an 8th pick that you can’t play in the playoffs because of defensive liability, Dilly would be a waste of a top 8th pick.

Dilly is a great scorer and very good at handling the ball and making plays,Stuff this team needs badly.Tre aint great at shit.
You would mad to have tre jones over dilly for backup pg.Who cares even at 8th,This team is use to wasting draft picks
on drafting bad players anyways.

[MultiTroll]

Sochan has gone back to having Denise Rodman hair?

That is what the cover picture for the article shows.

[Pauleta14]

Your hatred for Tre is showing. If you YouTube lob pass to Wemby, you’ll see most from Tre:

https://youtu.be/Ywf7ebAuTEA?si=v8fPqAXNIR1b0x5T

here’s another one
https://youtube.com/shorts/rqFjB2x6fGQ?si=mZdrFPRCu3RU26-e

I'm a hater now? :lol

So you chose to ignore the part where I say he's smart?

I'm not 15yo nor on Twitter, I wish the best to all of them, it's never the point

[John B]

I'm a hater now? :lol

So you chose to ignore the part where I say he's smart?

I'm not 15yo nor on Twitter, I wish the best to all of them, it's never the point

You used the word “smart” because Tre doesn’t try to do what’s he’s not good at including attempting lob passes. Come on.

[widowmaker]

I think that changes when you have either Wemby/Bassey protecting the middle.


I don’t think so they used that defense all of last year.

[LeBowen]

white got us couple 1st round picks.Doubt tre jones cant get us one second round pick.

This time we won't be looking to receive picks, but better players and picks will be going the other way.
Keldon is solid enough to be a neutral asset in any trade. Nothing special as a player, but is on a team friendly deal and can be useful.
Tre is on an expiring and Collins has two years left.
Three of them are ideal to salary match in any trade.
I doubt we'll move Barnes. As I said when we got him, I could easily see him becoming the new Finley. He'll turn 34 when his current deal expires and probably take a team friendly deal to finish his career on a playoff team.

[spurraider21]

at this point i cant really fathom picking up Branham's 4th year option. he doesnt play defense and doesnt playmake. so, he's a scoring specialist who's not all that good at shooting or scoring? really liked his game as a rookie who could handle the ball a little, showed a really nice in-between game with the pull-up middies and some floater type stuff. but he hasnt really gotten better anywhere. he has the in between game but doesnt get to the rim nor does he hit outside shots. i just dont see it. he's still young, his outside shot probably gets better over the course of his career, but i dont think we need to wait around for that to manifest.

and at the 2 we already have vassell. castle figures to play some 2. and from what i saw yesterday, champagnie also was getting more run there as well (which makes sense with Barnes now taking a lot of the forward minutes along with keldon). hard to see a real path for branham here if he doesnt look better than any of those guys

at least with wesley you can see some growth in his game, even if at the NBA level it wont be enough to compensate for his lack of scoring... but at least theres some trajectory there. the PG position is also a bigger quesiton mark, with Paul on a 1 year deal, Tre expiring, and Castle as the only other prospect at that position (and while everyone sees him as a PG, its still within the range of outcomes that he settles in as 2-3)

i dont know that its a sure thing wesley's option gets picked up, but at this point id favor that over branham

[rjv]

very happy to see that we kept mamu. and there was almost a father-son dynamic to sean and jacob. jacob will definitely get more polished as the season progresses and he acclimates himself to the spurs.

[Dex]

Fun game for what it was...first preseason game with a bunch of guys who probably won't make the cut.

As for Jacob Tobey, I liked what I heard. He seems sharp about the game and the players on the court. He and Sean were having a few zoomer vs. boomer moments which was funny, but I hope that is not a shtick they continue all season.

[TheChillFactor]

i suspect malachi flynn is there as insurance for branham/wesley.

if they don't want to invest in them or pickup their options, i could see either of them get moved for a future second or something that will set this board on fire lol.

[Seventyniner]

Fun game for what it was...first preseason game with a bunch of guys who probably won't make the cut.

As for Jacob Tobey, I liked what I heard. He seems sharp about the game and the players on the court. He and Sean were having a few zoomer vs. boomer moments which was funny, but I hope that is not a shtick they continue all season.

I wouldn't hold my breath on that one. Schtick is sticky.

[z0sa]

I'm a fan of the new announcer and thought he and Sean's conversation was pretty hilarious! Jacob's got to work into creating his own memes, which will take seasons (for any new play by play guy), plural. Sean likes him, which really showed in their back and forth. That's enough for me.

[spurraider21]

sochan's release on his 3 point shot still had the same slow delivery and hitch, but at least the shot didnt look 2 handed anymore and seemed like a nice backspin

[Mugen]

I was drinking the kool aid when he got drafted and for a big chunk of last year, but I think it's time to cut bait on Sidy tbh. That shot hasn't improved at all and I haven't observed any impact defensively.

[Pauleta14]

You used the word “smart” because Tre doesn’t try to do what’s he’s not good at including attempting lob passes. Come on.

Nope

I used that word bc I mean it, Tre has an above average IQ, he's lmited in terms of size and talent and knows it. He's not letting his ego try difficult stuff and focuses on (easier) stuff he knows he can do well. Hence him not trying much lob passes or having the lowest % of passes below the FT among all starting PG (Ask Timvip for the reference, he brought that info in his post season players analysis)

As I said multiple times, Tre is an overachiever, it's highly respectable and admirable

You're just being super sensitive and defensive for whatever reason (how old are you?) and go to the classic ad hominem technic vs whoever has a diff opinion than yours.

It's not flattering mate, you can do better

[Pauleta14]

Sochan has gone back to having Denise Rodman hair?

That is what the cover picture for the article shows.

Sochan weirdly looks like Kelly Oubre with his new haircut

[Limguogolo]

Jeremy Sochan : He was everywhere — but that shouldn’t be taken as a compliment.Probably the best description of Sochan to date.

[spurraider21]

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[Dex]

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We could use another Matt Bonner

[KobesAchilles]

If Tre Jones gets back up PG minutes over Castle in the regular season, Pop needs to be fired. Jones has ONE year left on his deal. That’s it. He is very clearly NOT a part of our future. Castle is supposedly a HUGE part of our future. It makes zero (and KA means ZERO) sense to not give Castle minutes to develop as a back up PG in favor of Jones.

Pop wants Castle on the bench. Fine. He wants CP3 as our starting PG. fine again. But a line (for the good of the franchise) needs to be drawn with Castle being behind Jones on the PG depth chart.

[John B]

Nope

I used that word bc I mean it, Tre has an above average IQ, he's lmited in terms of size and talent and knows it. He's not letting his ego try difficult stuff and focuses on (easier) stuff he knows he can do well. Hence him not trying much lob passes or having the lowest % of passes below the FT among all starting PG (Ask Timvip for the reference, he brought that info in his post season players analysis)

As I said multiple times, Tre is an overachiever, it's highly respectable and admirable

You're just being super sensitive and defensive for whatever reason (how old are you?) and go to the classic ad hominem technic vs whoever has a diff opinion than yours.

It's not flattering mate, you can do better

You said Tre focuses on “easier stuff he knows he can do” and then you call him overachiever. Bruh, which one is it? You are full of contradictions.

Then you accuse me of resolving to ad hominem, but then call me over sensitive, defensive. Seriously…

I merely said Tre has one of the best assist/TO ratio. The guy rarely makes mistakes, a good soldier. He’s not a starter, but as a backup? Tre is pretty solid.

[spurraider21]

If Tre Jones gets back up PG minutes over Castle in the regular season, Pop needs to be fired. Jones has ONE year left on his deal. That’s it. He is very clearly NOT a part of our future. Castle is supposedly a HUGE part of our future. It makes zero (and KA means ZERO) sense to not give Castle minutes to develop as a back up PG in favor of Jones.

Pop wants Castle on the bench. Fine. He wants CP3 as our starting PG. fine again. But a line (for the good of the franchise) needs to be drawn with Castle being behind Jones on the PG depth chart.
i imagine castle will spend some time playing different positions, including point guard. for all we know his NBA future might be at SG. think he spends time playing in a few different spots. sometimes alongside paul/tre, sometimes as the lead guard.

[Russ]

1843479143616520600

Yep. :toast

Saw Minix in person in the Summer League.

He can shoot and, surprisingly, also does a little bit of everything else.

He looks like he should be slow, but he moves smoothly and efficiently.

He generally stays in front of his man on D even if his man is smaller. His length then becomes an asset on D.

He moves well without the ball, passes well and is a physical rebounder.

He can also shoot from mid-range as well as three.

It's still early, but he looks pretty good (and he did in Summer League).

[KobesAchilles]

i imagine castle will spend some time playing different positions, including point guard. for all we know his NBA future might be at SG. think he spends time playing in a few different spots. sometimes alongside paul/tre, sometimes as the lead guard.
He can’t shoot the ball. Why would he play SG? Imagine the spacing between Jones and Castle. The paint will be packed. It takes away every single one of his advantages playing him at SG alongside Jones.

This moving Castle around bullshit needs to stop too. It’s why our players take fucking forever to develop vs the ones we actually give a clear defined role to. Just put him at PG. It’s a ridiculously hard position to learn. He won’t learn it by being SG or SF. It’s going to take him 4 years to learn how to play the position anyways. Why waste a year of his development by moving him all around? Get him settled. Make him know his role early. Don’t change his role. Don’t move his role to another position. And don’t play a back up PG over our #4 pick in the draft who we selected to become our point guard.

[John B]

Yep. :toast

Saw Minix in person in the Summer League.

He can shoot and, surprisingly, also does a little bit of everything else.

He looks like he should be slow, but he moves smoothly and efficiently.

He generally stays in front of his man on D even if his man is smaller. His length then becomes an asset on D.

He moves well without the ball, passes well and is a physical rebounder.

He can also shoot from mid-range as well as three.

It's still early, but he looks pretty good (and he did in Summer League).

Minix is my sleeper primarily because of his range. The guy can shoot and score multiple ways. I liked Branham offensive upsides, but he gets lazy sometimes, nonchalant as Pop puts it.

[spurraider21]

He can’t shoot the ball. Why would he play SG? Imagine the spacing between Jones and Castle. The paint will be packed. It takes away every single one of his advantages playing him at SG alongside Jones.

This moving Castle around bullshit needs to stop too. It’s why our players take fucking forever to develop vs the ones we actually give a clear defined role to. Just put him at PG. It’s a ridiculously hard position to learn. He won’t learn it by being SG or SF. It’s going to take him 4 years to learn how to play the position anyways. Why waste a year of his development by moving him all around? Get him settled. Make him know his role early. Don’t change his role. Don’t move his role to another position. And don’t play a back up PG over our #4 pick in the draft who we selected to become our point guard.
i likened him to pacers lance stephenson as a prospect, who had a decent amount of ballhandling/playmaking duties without necessarily being the lead guard or a great shooter. could also look at other players with a similar mold. tyreke evans, jimmy butler, iguodala. its not an unheard of archetype. if he pulls off the PG thing, thats obviously great. but theres still an open question of where he will actually find NBA success

i dont mind them figuring out where he's most comfortable or effective. maybe throwing him all the pressure and responsibility of being purely a PG from day 1 overwhelms him.

[Russ]

We could use another Matt Bonner

Minix isn't another Matt Bonner.

Bonner's legs were birdlike twigs.

Minix has a much bigger base -- his legs more like tree trunks.

Minix seems like a poor man's Dalton Knecht (who, concededly, is a poor man's someone else).

[baseline bum]

If Tre Jones gets back up PG minutes over Castle in the regular season, Pop needs to be fired. Jones has ONE year left on his deal. That’s it. He is very clearly NOT a part of our future. Castle is supposedly a HUGE part of our future. It makes zero (and KA means ZERO) sense to not give Castle minutes to develop as a back up PG in favor of Jones.

Pop wants Castle on the bench. Fine. He wants CP3 as our starting PG. fine again. But a line (for the good of the franchise) needs to be drawn with Castle being behind Jones on the PG depth chart.

Castle being behind Branham and Wesley made me want to smash the TV last night

[ambchang]

You said Tre focuses on “easier stuff he knows he can do” and then you call him overachiever. Bruh, which one is it? You are full of contradictions.

Then you accuse me of resolving to ad hominem, but then call me over sensitive, defensive. Seriously…

I merely said Tre has one of the best assist/TO ratio. The guy rarely makes mistakes, a good soldier. He’s not a starter, but as a backup? Tre is pretty solid.

Don’t waste your breath. Pauleta loves to hold his ground, throw random stats out that he can’t backup, then force you to prove the contrary. Then when all things fail, flail and go on a rant and accuse you of being a teenager, when it’s clear he draws his analysis from tiktokers because it’s the same crap.

[Dex]

Castle being behind Branham and Wesley made me want to smash the TV last night

:pop: He hasn't gotten over himself.

[Pauleta14]

You said Tre focuses on “easier stuff he knows he can do” and then you call him overachiever. Bruh, which one is it? You are full of contradictions.

Then you accuse me of resolving to ad hominem, but then call me over sensitive, defensive. Seriously…

I merely said Tre has one of the best assist/TO ratio. The guy rarely makes mistakes, a good soldier. He’s not a starter, but as a backup? Tre is pretty solid.

- Focusing on (easier) stuff u know u can do well IS a sign of high IQ, it makes him reliable on some specific aspects of the game. He's an overachiever because he plays in the NBA for +5 years which is above average for a guy with limited skills. There's no contradiction.

- I "accuse" you of going ad hominem, because your only objection to my post was : "you're a hater".

- I already argued with facts on the assit/TO ratio and the "good soldier who doesn't make mistakes" (only ppl trying stuff make mistakes btw :) fit with how I described him, he at best doesn't move the needle.

We can agree to disagree but we don't need to dismiss each other's pov with "you're a hater" or "you're an idiot", it's weak and pointless.

[ismael-robert]

lol getting mad at preseason gm 1

[jeebus]

Branham needs to fuck off to the Filipino League with Jeff Errors, especially if Minix keeps his shooting up. If Minix can play even serviceable D, I'd be fine with giving him a contract and letting him compete for minutes at the backup F spot. Course it's just one preseason game...

[Pauleta14]

He can’t shoot the ball. Why would he play SG? Imagine the spacing between Jones and Castle. The paint will be packed. It takes away every single one of his advantages playing him at SG alongside Jones.

This moving Castle around bullshit needs to stop too. It’s why our players take fucking forever to develop vs the ones we actually give a clear defined role to. Just put him at PG. It’s a ridiculously hard position to learn. He won’t learn it by being SG or SF. It’s going to take him 4 years to learn how to play the position anyways. Why waste a year of his development by moving him all around? Get him settled. Make him know his role early. Don’t change his role. Don’t move his role to another position. And don’t play a back up PG over our #4 pick in the draft who we selected to become our point guard.

This :toast

[Pauleta14]

Castle being behind Branham and Wesley made me want to smash the TV last night

PATFO needs to make a decision in the coming weeks regarding those 2

It makes sense to give them PT in the first games

I want Castle to focus and develop only the PG skills/role

[CGD]

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Shades of Steve Novak?

[timtonymanu]

Branham might be my least favorite Spur right now. At least Blake plays defense. Malaki can’t even be a good spark off the bench cause he bricks everything.

That’s why I find the “lol dillingham doesn’t play defense” talk so nonsense cause what does Malaki do for our defense that is even remotely acceptable?

[exstatic]

Branham might be my least favorite Spur right now. At least Blake plays defense. Malaki can’t even be a good spark off the bench cause he bricks everything.

That’s why I find the “lol dillingham doesn’t play defense” talk so nonsense cause what does Malaki do for our defense that is even remotely acceptable?

Branham wasn’t picked in the top 10. He was a flyer at #20. You want a bit more up front out of #8.

[onechance87]

Branham wasn’t picked in the top 10. He was a flyer at #20. You want a bit more up front out of #8.

yet the wolves traded for him.....Guess lets see how he does over there.

[John B]

Castle being behind Branham and Wesley made me want to smash the TV last night

I can only think of PATFO making a harder look on those two. Right now I’m leaning on Minix as having the dawg over Malaki.

[heyheymymy]

"I told Steph, he stole one rebound from me, and I was like 'listen, you can't be doing that now, crash to your fancy, but if you see me there, let me get this.' I'm happy I'm in a position to tell that to the rooks now. Let me get my boards." - Mamu

[mudyez]

"I told Steph, he stole one rebound from me, and I was like 'listen, you can't be doing that now, crash to your fancy, but if you see me there, let me get this.' I'm happy I'm in a position to tell that to the rooks now. Let me get my boards." - Mamu

:smokin

I wonder who said something similar to Wemby last year?

[Strategic]

"I told Steph, he stole one rebound from me, and I was like 'listen, you can't be doing that now, crash to your fancy, but if you see me there, let me get this.' I'm happy I'm in a position to tell that to the rooks now. Let me get my boards." - MamuWonder if anyone in okc told Westbrook that?