Steph Castle: Throw’em in the moat!

[Atl Spur]

This kids defense is a game changer; he loves to dominate his opponent. Good times ahead….

[NASpurs]

https://stickerheads.com/cdn/shop/products/LOOKATME324234_336x.jpg?v=1568147947

[SpursGenius]

Dude needs to start. Barnes need to come off bench. Pop will fuck it up I’m sure.

[timtonymanu]

OP is a faggot but I approve this thread

[tim_duncan_fan]

Fam, we have a Castle church (castle) thread.

That said, who gives a fuck? A rookie that isn't Vic finally looks talented immediately. Make 3 more threads for him.

He plays savvy as hell. He is going to have quiet 25-point games. Thank fucking god.

Edit: And when was the last time this team had a mofo who goes to the FT line? Good pick, PATFO.

[GAustex]

This kids defense is a game changer; he loves to dominate his opponent. Good times ahead….

Miss Cleo!!!

Missed you

Hugs and kisses for you and Castle

[Atl Spur]

OP is a faggot but I approve this thread

lol. Thank you:) pace yourself, the season is still young!

[Atl Spur]

https://stickerheads.com/cdn/shop/products/LOOKATME324234_336x.jpg?v=1568147947

We all knew this prior to the sign….. we see you and acknowledge your contribution :)

[RC_Drunkford]

the 4th pick is good, look I'm a genius :spin Josh Primo will be an All-Star :elephant

[John B]

Start this kid. Castle can play the 3, despite what pundits on this forum says. Either Sochan/Barnes go to the bench. Give Castle a chance to win ROTY against Sheppard.

[z0sa]

If only Pop would start him, but it ain't happenin'.

[Atl Spur]

the 4th pick is good, look I'm a genius :spin Josh Primo will be an All-Star :elephant

PTSD is a real thing I see……bro I’ve said nothing to you:) #rentfree

[Atl Spur]

Damn……poor Drew Eubanks!

[sfernald]

#StartCastleOrFirePop

[DAF86]

I have no problem with Castle coming off the bench, but he better be getting around 25 minutes constantly. If Pop keeps his minutes in the teens, I'm gonna lose my shit.

[cutewizard]

Except for Wemby,

Castle has got to be the best Spurs rookie in a long, long time

i watched the game again

Castle was with the second stringers when they obtained the lead

He was with the fun third stringers when they sustained the lead

Castle has the win gene within him............

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oJpTy6uZHY

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nI2f4igRVOg

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvhwPEfVQP4

[Atl Spur]

I have no problem with Castle coming off the bench, but he better be getting around 25 minutes constantly. If Pop keeps his minutes in the teens, I'm gonna lose my shit.

You and I both!

[ismael-robert]

Get yall Depends ready

[tim_duncan_fan]

Did Steph do more than the box score says he did tonight? It kinda feels like his impact was a little bigger than it looks on the sheet. Wish he had notched a couple of those 3s though.

[CorrectCrusader]

Did Steph do more than the box score says he did tonight? It kinda feels like his impact was a little bigger than it looks on the sheet. Wish he had notched a couple of those 3s though.

Yes. Active in tons of plays and was very smart offensively at the end of the game.

[Mr. Body]

More room to grow but what stood out to me, other than his ability to still consistently get into the paint, is that Pop put him on Jaquez who was giving us trouble. He has the strength to bang with that type of player.

[TE]

The kid will have a great career. Hopefully it's with the Spurs. He has intangibles both defensively and offensively that a 3-5yr 2-way player would have. He'll only develop from here.

[Ice009]

The kid will have a great career. Hopefully it's with the Spurs. He has intangibles both defensively and offensively that a 3-5yr 2-way player would have. He'll only develop from here.

Why do you say "hopefully it's with the Spurs"? You don't think he'll stick around, or you think the Spurs won't keep him?

[John B]

Did Steph do more than the box score says he did tonight? It kinda feels like his impact was a little bigger than it looks on the sheet. Wish he had notched a couple of those 3s though.

I think real good especially towards the end with Malaki and Blake depending and making it a game. His ability to take it to the rim with contact is way ahead of his age. Already he’s earning his trips to the line. He’s just gonna get even stronger. I can’t wait.

[tim_duncan_fan]

Why do you say "hopefully it's with the Spurs"? You don't think he'll stick around, or you think the Spurs won't keep him?

Do you not have KawhiPTSD?

I do.



I think real good especially towards the end with Malaki and Blake depending and making it a game. His ability to take it to the rim with contact is way ahead of his age. Already he’s earning his trips to the line. He’s just gonna get even stronger. I can’t wait.

He seems so advanced for where he is at. With him and Wemby, it should get very businesslike and victory-minded around The Rock at La Cantera. Gonna be a good decade, so assuming everything looks as it seems.

[exstatic]

He seems so advanced for where he is at. With him and Wemby, it should get very businesslike and victory-minded around The Rock at La Cantera. Gonna be a good decade, so assuming everything looks as it seems.

He makes good decisions in both the micro and the macro, the best of which was Go To UConn. That’s the reason he’s so advanced, going to a school where he can learn, not just show out. It’s also the reason I will keep an eye on Liam McNeely, only the second McDonalds AA player to select UConn, Castle being the first. He’s a sweet shooting SF who might be available in our (or Atlanta’s) draft range if neither pick jumps into the top 4.

[Knoxxx]

Castle as stated is showing a bread and butter capability to constantly get to the lane and the line. That makes him an asset in the league on both ends immediately. The determinant of whether he becomes and all star is his shooting.

[scott]

Except for Wemby,

Castle has got to be the best Spurs rookie in a long, long time

i watched the game again

Castle was with the second stringers when they obtained the lead

He was with the fun third stringers when they sustained the lead

Castle has the win gene within him............

Well, he’s the 5th Highest Draft Pick in Spurs history. Two of the 4 higher are HOFers and Top 25 Players. Another is a Legend with his number retired. The other is his current teammate.

In other words… I sure fucking hope he’s the best Spurs rookie besides Wemby in a long time.

[Atl Spur]

Steph is good at basketball and is very savvy with the media to be so young. Nice building block

[Ice009]

Well, he’s the 5th Highest Draft Pick in Spurs history. Two of the 4 higher are HOFers and Top 25 Players. Another is a Legend with his number retired. The other is his current teammate.

In other words… I sure fucking hope he’s the best Spurs rookie besides Wemby in a long time.

I'm not remembering, but who is the other high draft pick?

Edit : I'm guessing Sean Elliott is who you were referring to as the Edit 2 : I meant Legend with his number retired.


Do you not have KawhiPTSD?

I do.

He seems so advanced for where he is at. With him and Wemby, it should get very businesslike and victory-minded around The Rock at La Cantera. Gonna be a good decade, so assuming everything looks as it seems.

Yeah, I really like his game so far. Seems very advanced for his age. I love that he can get to the rim and draw fouls while also being able to play make. I hope he can do that in the regular season, and I also hope his jump shot starts going in and he's a decent shooter with the potential to get even better.

As for the PTSD, I guess I do still have a bit of that.

[Seventyniner]

I'm not remembering, but who is the other high draft pick?

Edit : I'm guessing Sean Elliott is who you were referring to as the HOFer.

The two HOFers are Robinson and Duncan, while the "Legend with his number retired" is Elliott. The last one is Wemby.

[Ice009]

The two HOFers are Robinson and Duncan, while the "Legend with his number retired" is Elliott. The last one is Wemby.

That's what I meant to say "Legend with his number retired". No idea how I stuffed up and wrote HOFer. Even if he's not a HOFer, he's definitely a legend to me and a lot of other people/Spurs fans.

[CGD]

Well, he’s the 5th Highest Draft Pick in Spurs history. Two of the 4 higher are HOFers and Top 25 Players. Another is a Legend with his number retired. The other is his current teammate.

In other words… I sure fucking hope he’s the best Spurs rookie besides Wemby in a long time.

I think she was intending to throw shade at TP, Leonard, and Manu.

[tim_duncan_fan]

He makes good decisions in both the micro and the macro, the best of which was Go To UConn. That’s the reason he’s so advanced, going to a school where he can learn, not just show out. It’s also the reason I will keep an eye on Liam McNeely, only the second McDonalds AA player to select UConn, Castle being the first. He’s a sweet shooting SF who might be available in our (or Atlanta’s) draft range if neither pick jumps into the top 4.

My knowledge of college ball isn't that deep, but my impression has always been that everyone who comes out of Uconn can undeniably hoop and handle themselves well on the business/corporate/persona/public opinion end. They probably do have great structure for actual personal development, along with learning the game.

[dn0774]

My knowledge of college ball isn't that deep, but my impression has always been that everyone who comes out of Uconn can undeniably hoop and handle themselves well on the business/corporate/persona/public opinion end. They probably do have great structure for actual personal development, along with learning the game.

Their history since acquiring Dan Hurley as coach is a bit more limited. He has improved their record every year since arriving in 2018 which is pretty crazy, not to mention the b2b Natl Championship run they are currently on. I wouldn't be surprised to see UConn become an even bigger hotbed of top talent in the next few years with Hurley being young and apparently not interested in any NBA jobs. The fact a top prospect like Castle chose UConn likely knowing he would have a more narrow role than most recruits of his stature than when they choose a "showcase" school who specializes in 1 and dones speaks volumes about Stephs character.

With Steph still being a top pick this year hopefully that will help embolden future likely 1 and dones to target winning programs instead of just choosing based on getting a high usage role at a middling school. Castle still had plenty of naysayers going into this draft (Nate Duncan iirc had him like 20th in the class lol) mostly because of a perceived lack of lead guard qualities and obvious shooting concerns and oddly enough some saying he was a sub par athlete.

[MultiTroll]

A Fabbs front office, in addition to delivering year after year of Championship runs.....

Would demand Castle get his hair cut or wear that thing other then a birds nest.

[exstatic]

Their history since acquiring Dan Hurley as coach is a bit more limited. He has improved their record every year since arriving in 2018 which is pretty crazy, not to mention the b2b Natl Championship run they are currently on. I wouldn't be surprised to see UConn become an even bigger hotbed of top talent in the next few years with Hurley being young and apparently not interested in any NBA jobs. The fact a top prospect like Castle chose UConn likely knowing he would have a more narrow role than most recruits of his stature than when they choose a "showcase" school who specializes in 1 and dones speaks volumes about Stephs character.

With Steph still being a top pick this year hopefully that will help embolden future likely 1 and dones to target winning programs instead of just choosing based on getting a high usage role at a middling school. Castle still had plenty of naysayers going into this draft (Nate Duncan iirc had him like 20th in the class lol) mostly because of a perceived lack of lead guard qualities and obvious shooting concerns and oddly enough some saying he was a sub par athlete.

It already has. Liam McNeely, a 6’7” sweet shooting SF who was ranked about the same as Castle was, and is also a McDonalds AA, has chosen UConn, and is currently mocked #8 in the 2025 draft by TaT.

[Atl Spur]

Castle is so polished for a 19 yrs old player….should be the best player coming out of this draft.

[tim_duncan_fan]

Castle is so polished for a 19 yrs old player….should be the best player coming out of this draft.

Gotta work on that jumper to really get to where he *can* go though.

Seems that the sky is the limit once he gets a three, because everything else looks ready.

[scott]

I think she was intending to throw shade at TP, Leonard, and Manu.

I don't even see it as shade or an insult to TP, Manu or Kawhi. None of those guys were the #4 pick, and the two HOFers on that list were developmental flyer picks that turned out. No disrespect at all to either of them to expect Castle to be better out of the gates.

Now... will he end up with a career as good as those 3? Man, that would be amazing if he did! We can only hope! We need his 3ball to come around like Leonard's did though.

[Mr. Body]

I just don't see a comparison with Reed Sheppard. Sheppard may become a nice connector and deep threat, but Castle is already looking like a hub. A ways to go, but when he drives, Houston was already having to collapse multiple players on him.

[Atl Spur]

He is not afraid of contact which is very rare; very high bbiq! Pop has to be giddy having him and Wemby!!

[Atl Spur]

I just don't see a comparison with Reed Sheppard. Sheppard may become a nice connector and deep threat, but Castle is already looking like a hub. A ways to go, but when he drives, Houston was already having to collapse multiple players on him.

Reed can’t handle him…we lucked out!

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtt7XpWBCwE

[cutewizard]

Castle was arguably our best all around player in the preseason

and he is a rookie......incredible!

[ambchang]

Have to admit, I wanted Reed over him. I still think both players will be the best two prospects in this draft though.
Hope Castle continues to grow. My only fear is that he is so polished that he has little room to improve.

[spurraider21]

i wanted reed over him as well. but i also liked castle as a G/F even more than i liked him as just being pigeonholed into the PG role. i had by doubts about the castle pick when i thought they would just jam him at PG and see if it worked out. i still think he can clearly grow into that role but looks like he can and will play all over, which is part of what drew me to castle to begin with

[ambchang]

I agree. I don’t see castle as a strict PG, I hope he develops into a ball handling SF ala Pippen, artest, Lebron, Paul George type. Not in terms of skill set but in terms of being a facilitator on offence while being a SF.

[BackHome]

Nah I dint draft a 6’6 guard to play the SF position

[Mr. Body]

I agree. I don’t see castle as a strict PG, I hope he develops into a ball handling SF ala Pippen, artest, Lebron, Paul George type. Not in terms of skill set but in terms of being a facilitator on offence while being a SF.

Do people assign positions according to body size? Definitions get confusing because of how different people approach the question,

To me, it's clear Castle is not a wing. He's a guard. He's very rarely going to be put into the corners and he's not going to post up much, which are classic small forward/wing traits. He's also going to be defending starting at the top of the key against ball-handlers.

Like, if the Spurs got Traore and play Castle-Traore-Vassell, I'd see Vassell as more of the wing in those sets.

[KingKev]

Do people assign positions according to body size? Definitions get confusing because of how different people approach the question,

To me, it's clear Castle is not a wing. He's a guard. He's very rarely going to be put into the corners and he's not going to post up much, which are classic small forward/wing traits. He's also going to be defending starting at the top of the key against ball-handlers.

Like, if the Spurs got Traore and play Castle-Traore-Vassell, I'd see Vassell as more of the wing in those sets.

He is definitely a guard who can play some 3 if required. This year it just might require that, especially to get him minutes. Long term he is a versatile combo guard I suspect.

[Atl Spur]

Do people assign positions according to body size? Definitions get confusing because of how different people approach the question,

To me, it's clear Castle is not a wing. He's a guard. He's very rarely going to be put into the corners and he's not going to post up much, which are classic small forward/wing traits. He's also going to be defending starting at the top of the key against ball-handlers.

Like, if the Spurs got Traore and play Castle-Traore-Vassell, I'd see Vassell as more of the wing in those sets.

Castle will post up ( it’s a strength of his ) in the future.

[Atl Spur]

Just start him

[Atl Spur]

Nice game tonight, his bbiq and intangibles are impressive! I’m really digging his vision/ playmaking

[z0sa]

Castle making Sheppard look like a 2nd round pick in comparison :lol :lol

[spursparker9]

After all the Bryn Fores bullshit, I am glad that Pop is playing Castle over Wesley in the clutch min.

[spursparker9]

If he can take Tre Jones' minutes after Tre is back healthy, Castle can get 1st team all rookie.

ROY is still a stretch. Probably go to Sarr or Edey

[z0sa]

If he can take Tre Jones' minutes after Tre is back healthy, Castle can get 1st team all rookie.

ROY is still a stretch. Probably go to Sarr or Edey

Personally, I didn't miss Tre Jones one iota. No hate on him, but we staaaaacked now (at his position). If he didn't need to play another non-blowout minute, I'd be perfectly okay with it.

[CGD]

Just start him

CP3 has a long injury history, so this could be in play.

[spursparker9]

Personally, I didn't miss Tre Jones one iota. No hate on him, but we staaaaacked now (at his position). If he didn't need to play another non-blowout minute, I'd be perfectly okay with it.

He can be the backup to Castle, after CP3 retires or traded to other teams

[z0sa]

He can be the backup to Castle, after CP3 retires or traded to other teams

True. I'm wishcasting CP3 staying healthy and not being rested, but the concept remains. Besides, if he's a backup PG getting limited minutes (in the rotation, granted), that's where he should shine anyway.

[Mr. Body]

Pop running this kid through the clutch.

[spurraider21]

26 minutes including crunch time. The scoring productivity will come but he looks comfortable out there and is already our best defending guard

[scott]

Looking fantastic, but there were times where you could see how a 3pt shot would really take his game to another level. Like, the difference between a nice player and a potential star. Hopefully that is in the works!

Loving that he's earned the trust for big clutch time minutes in his second game. Hopefully Pop doesn't backslide on this.

[Atl Spur]

Context….2nd game in the best league on the planet & playing crunch time minutes :) wait til he starts posting up these little guards and terrorizing teams in the pic and roll! The kids a killer, ask Jordan Brand. I picked up his home and away jersey this week.

[spursparker9]

Look like his wrist is okay


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTwH5d3hytY&ab_channel=SanAntonioSpurs

[TDomination]

I really like his game, I’m glad we got him

[DPG21920]

I am developing an irrational love for Castle.

[tim_duncan_fan]

Just now getting to watch. Bro is what we wanted Cousin Josh to be.

He just needs to put together a respectable jumper over the next couple years and he'll be an all-star.


This nigga kept telling teams he can play point guard, he just wasn't asked to. That's funny. Everybody will tell you they've got some ability that just haven't been asked to show, but this guy wasn't lying :rollin

[TheBallsbreakers]

My second-favorite player already.

[RC_Drunkford]

it's unreal how good this kid is already. Best player in the draft by far.

[Raven]

His ability to run around the screen is uncanny and probably the most important defensive characteristic for a pg.

[LeBowen]

As I said the other day, Tre is redundant if both CP3 and Castle are healthy.
I know they won't play every game, but if one sits Wesley can be the third stringer. We need to find out if he's going to be useful, after all.

I'd look to trade Tre for another reliable shooter or even package him and Collins together for a backup big improvement.
If Spurs actually want to compete this season, that is.

It was obvious from the first summer league game that Castle is a point guard.
Yeah, he'll make rookie mistakes this season, but almost all of his decisions have the right logic behind them, he's not doing anything random.

[cutewizard]

This is one hell of a rookie.....

Floor is Gary Payton.....

Ceiling....unknown

[cutewizard]

He has the Manu impact vibes

He can impact the game

[cutewizard]

I am developing an irrational love for Castle.


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Me too

We have to thank the UConn system hmmmm

[spursparker9]

Castle's offence is the total opposite of Westbrick tbh

Castle is so calm and patient.

[exstatic]

As I said the other day, Tre is redundant if both CP3 and Castle are healthy.
I know they won't play every game, but if one sits Wesley can be the third stringer. We need to find out if he's going to be useful, after all.

I'd look to trade Tre for another reliable shooter or even package him and Collins together for a backup big improvement.
If Spurs actually want to compete this season, that is.

It was obvious from the first summer league game that Castle is a point guard.
Yeah, he'll make rookie mistakes this season, but almost all of his decisions have the right logic behind them, he's not doing anything random.

CP3 is 39,so we’ll probably need to keep Tre as the bench PG going forward.

[LeBowen]

CP3 is 39,so we’ll probably need to keep Tre as the bench PG going forward.

He's on an expiring deal.
They either need to extend him or trade him before the deadline.

A tanking team will surely offer more money in the summer and even though we have cap space, we shouldn't overpay an undersized non-shooter.
I'm not that high on him in general because of those two things.
Even though he does everything right on defense, he's just a non-factor against anyone with size and he's not a threat from 3pt.
Backup point guards are fairly easy to find if he doesn't want to take a team-friendly deal.

[Mr. Body]

I would try to resign Tre depending on the market. Dependable backup points are hard to come by.

[Atl Spur]

I would try to resign Tre depending on the market. Dependable backup points are hard to come by.

Trade Tre and bring over Nunez. Hopefully Blake can continue to develop.

[Atl Spur]

Yeah, Steph should be our starting pg. That’s all

[hater]

Thread title could have been better tbqh. His name is castle

But this kid can ball. I had no idea whonhe was but from first couple minutes I saw him play in the Houston hame I was "fuck yeah"

[Mr. Body]

Thread title could have been better tbqh. His name is castle

But this kid can ball. I had no idea whonhe was but from first couple minutes I saw him play in the Houston hame I was "fuck yeah"

You sound like an idiot.

[Atl Spur]

That hesi is innovative…… crazy as hell to see done!

[cutewizard]

Best rookie playmaker/activator

[Atl Spur]

The kid is looking poised out there…

[Dejounte]

You’re worse than even gambit1990 when it comes to masturbating to your own threads and bumping them to bring them back to the top.

[Atl Spur]

You’re worse than even gambit1990 when it comes to masturbating to your own threads and bumping them to bring them back to the top.

Dude, you got to chill!

[Atl Spur]

The next step for him is consistency & aggression.

[Kevin]

Defensive net rating with Castle on the floor is 4.9 point better while the offense 1.6 better than when he's off the floor. A rookie with a +6.5 Net Rating is crazy.

Devin Vassel's on/off Net Rating was basically zero last season for perspective.

[BackHome]

The next step for him is consistency & aggression.

Yeah, I noticed in Dallas game when his shot wasn’t falling he kinda seemed like the ball was a hot potato and stopped shooting. For him he needs to keep shooting and work on a tear floater and mid range as he is not going to out muscle people all the time. But very happy with his progress and looking forward to watch him grow up and reach his potential

[The Truth #6]

I'm appreciating CP3 right now but how long he stays is uncertain. Basically, a lot of uncertainties to want to move on from a solid backup point guard. Blake would have to really step up. I'd love for Blake to improve and earn the backup spot but seems like that will take more time.

A lot of moving parts. Castle is the eventual starter, maybe next year. But if CP3 wants to stay another year then Castle is still the backup, and Tre would be third string. Either way, Blake has an uphill battle.

The FO takes the long road so I'm guessing Tre stays even if CP3 returns next year.

[onechance87]

I'm appreciating CP3 right now but how long he stays is uncertain. Basically, a lot of uncertainties to want to move on from a solid backup point guard. Blake would have to really step up. I'd love for Blake to improve and earn the backup spot but seems like that will take more time.

A lot of moving parts. Castle is the eventual starter, maybe next year. But if CP3 wants to stay another year then Castle is still the backup, and Tre would be third string. Either way, Blake has an uphill battle.

The FO takes the long road so I'm guessing Tre stays even if CP3 returns next year.

we got to move on from tre...Undersize,Cant shoot,average playmaker.We can do better.

[cutewizard]

Would you guys consider Ben Simmons? hahaha

as a back up PG

[Chomag]

Would you guys consider Ben Simmons? hahaha

as a back up PG

No diva mental head cases please thanks lol

[The Truth #6]

we got to move on from tre...Undersize,Cant shoot,average playmaker.We can do better.

So you're saying trade Tre and give Blake more minutes so that he becomes the eventual backup?

[Atl Spur]

I’d trade Tre & keldon package

[Atl Spur]

Less than 20 games in and you can already see the kid is nice; I personally can live with all the mistakes but the great thing he doesn’t! He can handle tough love in fact he expects it. Utah you’re up…..

[Atl Spur]

We stole Steph Castle; dude is gonna be a monster! Chris Paul loves this dude…

[Atl Spur]

Whoa! That was scary……

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGJ3V1B0d8s

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCLx0LqfHJ0

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlmeT7Cpacw

[Atl Spur]

Colin Sexton, you’re up!

[Atl Spur]

Damn Steph!

[Atl Spur]

How do I upload a pic we took?

[Atl Spur]

This kid is a problem once he start playing with his back to the basket! Little guards have no chance.