Spurs Trade for (and waive) Jalen McDaniels

[spurraider21]

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[jeebus]

He gone.

[spurraider21]

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[szkorhetz]

Why waive him?
I kind of like the small glimpses I have seen him last year.

[spurraider21]

guess we just used the room exception to bring him in and waive him in exchange for the draft compensation. i was kinda hoping this was a branham trade :lol

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[Leetonidas]

Spurs Twitter: welcome Jalen!

Spurs Twitter 5 mins later: Thank you Jalen!

[LeBowen]

Damn, almost got me.

I still think we could potentially give those picks back to Minnesota for the other McDaniels next summer because even if they get rid of Randle, their cap situation will still be bad and they'll need to extend Naz.

[baseline bum]

Got excited for a second thinking the Spurs got Jaden McDaniels in an a Minnesota fire sale.

[heyheymymy]

Lol I had 3 heart attacks

I thought it said Jaden, then I thought they waived Jaden, then I realized it was just Jalen.

[spurraider21]

So... Sacto traded 2 SRPs attached to Davion Mitchell in exchange for McDaniels to create the cap room necessary to execute the Derozan trade, and now are trading an additional SRP to offload McDaniels as well

[spurraider21]

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[LeBowen]

This trade brings our SRP total to *drumroll*... 18 picks in the next 6 drafts. :lol

[exstatic]

Why waive him?
I kind of like the small glimpses I have seen him last year.

:pop: We like what we have.

[spurraider21]

This trade brings our SRP total to *drumroll*... 18 picks in the next 6 drafts. :lol
thinking back to 2023 draft when we had the #33 overall pick in a good draft and traded it for 2 future SRPs :lol

[jeebus]

Kings fan hated this guy cuz he sucked so of course some people on this forum want to keep him :lol

[spurraider21]

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[baseline bum]

So... Sacto traded 2 SRPs attached to Davion Mitchell in exchange for McDaniels to create the cap room necessary to execute the Derozan trade, and now are trading an additional SRP to offload McDaniels as well

Great, so now we need to know the second round talent in 20131 too

[Uriel]

That 20131 draft haul is gonna be so loaded.

[scott]

Another SRP = another $110k in Jr's pocket down the line when he directs Wright to sell the pick

[spurraider21]

Another SRP = another $110k in Jr's pocket down the line when he directs Wright to sell the pick
so Jr spending 4.7m to acquire and waive mcdaniels with the intent of selling the pick for 100k?

[LeBowen]

thinking back to 2023 draft when we had the #33 overall pick in a good draft and traded it for 2 future SRPs :lol

At this point Wright is running a ponzi scheme. :lol

[scott]

so Jr spending 4.7m to acquire and waive mcdaniels with the intent of selling the pick for 100k?

I missed that part.

$4.7mm seems like a high price for an SRP.

So it begs the question... what are we doing here? Helping Sacto out as a backdoor completion of the Barnes trade?

[Das Texan]

Cant wait for the tribute video.

[Dex]

Spurs Twitter: welcome Jalen!

Spurs Twitter 5 mins later: Thank you Jalen!

Looking forward to the video tribute whenever he comes back.

[spurraider21]

I missed that part.

$4.7mm seems like a high price for an SRP.

So it begs the question... what are we doing here? Helping Sacto out as a backdoor completion of the Barnes trade?
that seems to be the going rate. similar to how much we took on for Osman, Payne, etc

as expected, its also an unprotected SRP. dont know the year though. the kings dont own their SRP in 2025, so it could be 26, 27, 29, 31

[scott]

that seems to be the going rate. similar to how much we took on for Osman, Payne, etc

as expected, its also an unprotected SRP. dont know the year though. the kings dont own their SRP in 2025, so it could be 26, 27, 29, 31

They must feel confident that unprotected SRPs can yield useful vets, since we seemingly don't even want to use roster space on FRPs.

[RC_Drunkford]

Need to make back that money cause we don‘t have no jersey sponsor

[KingKev]

First we traded Paul George to Indiana now we waived Jaden McDaniels? PATFO done last they mind.

[NASpurs]

First we traded Paul George to Indiana now we waived Jaden McDaniels? PATFO done last they mind.

In before exstatic writes a lengthy sniffer post while the joke goes over his head

[Bruno]

https://www.sacbee.com/sports/nba/sacramento-kings/article293963619.html


A league source told The Sacramento Bee the Kings are trading Jalen McDaniels, their 2031 second-round draft pick and cash considerations to the San Antonio

A classical salary dump trade.

It's nice that the pick is in 2031. Spurs already have too much second round picks in the near future.

I guess the cash is to cover McDaniels salary. Spurs should already be close to the max cash they can receive in 2024-2025 with this trade and the Furphy/Nunez trade.

[baseline bum]

I know people are crapping on this trade, but sometimes you can get nice talent in the second. Like this year if we would have had a pick in the mid 30s we could have gotten Johnny Furphy for example.

[heyheymymy]

"Yes!! Here we gooo! FUCK! No, not again!!! Wait, oh. Whatever"

everyone itt or at least me I guess

[KingKev]

In before exstatic (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=20) writes a lengthy sniffer post while the joke goes over his head

Haha I lobbed it up for us all but you decided to block it!

[heyheymymy]

what a roller coaster

another Ajay Mitchell to ignore

[exstatic]

In before exstatic writes a lengthy sniffer post while the joke goes over his head

I do understand the lore of this place. Been here a while.

[Fizziksman]

Need to make back that money cause we don‘t have no jersey sponsor

Cash Considerations is Brian Wrong favorite player.

[spurraider21]

https://www.sacbee.com/sports/nba/sacramento-kings/article293963619.html



A classical salary dump trade.

It's nice that the pick is in 2031. Spurs already have too much second round picks in the near future.

I guess the cash is to cover McDaniels salary. Spurs should already be close to the max cash they can receive in 2024-2025 with this trade and the Furphy/Nunez trade.
amazingly, that is our only extra 2031 SRP so far.

in the much anticipated 20131 draft, we now have swap rights with Sacramento with our FRP, own Minnesota's FRP outright, and also get Sacto's SRP

[spurraider21]

the fake pick we are sending back is a 2025 SRP. not our own, but Chicago's, and it is top 55 protected

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[Mr. Body]

This where Sacto sends enough money to cover, so the Spurs get yet another free SRP and then the big brains around here piss all over their fingers and make it seem like the worst thing ever?

[jjspur]

Don't we have to waive a player just to get him on the roster since we are already at 21 ? So are we then waiving McDaniels and one of our guys or just Mcdaniels ? Still seems like a lot of drama for a second round pick like 5 years from now..

[scott]

This where Sacto sends enough money to cover, so the Spurs get yet another free SRP and then the big brains around here piss all over their fingers and make it seem like the worst thing ever?

Find you a partner who loves you the way Mr. Body loves piss.

[scott]

Don't we have to waive a player just to get him on the roster since we are already at 21 ? So are we then waiving McDaniels and one of our guys or just Mcdaniels ? Still seems like a lot of drama for a second round pick like 5 years from now..

Well, it's 7 years from now... so worth it.

[exstatic]

https://www.sacbee.com/sports/nba/sacramento-kings/article293963619.html



A classical salary dump trade.

It's nice that the pick is in 2031. Spurs already have too much second round picks in the near future.

I guess the cash is to cover McDaniels salary. Spurs should already be close to the max cash they can receive in 2024-2025 with this trade and the Furphy/Nunez trade.
Is there an overall limit in how much you can receive, or is it just a limit per trade?

[spurraider21]

Is there an overall limit in how much you can receive, or is it just a limit per trade?
i know theres a limit to how much cash considerations a given team can pay per season. bruno would know better than i do, but im not sure if theres a cap on how much one team can receive

[Mr. Body]

Find you a partner who loves you the way Mr. Body loves piss.

Nah man you guys are the pissbabies. I'm the sniffer or whatever you pissbabies cry about.

[spurraider21]

This where Sacto sends enough money to cover, so the Spurs get yet another free SRP and then the big brains around here piss all over their fingers and make it seem like the worst thing ever?


Nah man you guys are the pissbabies. I'm the sniffer or whatever you pissbabies cry about.
who here said this was a poor transaction for the spurs?

[Mr. Body]

who here said this was a poor transaction for the spurs?

:rollin

Did you read this thread? Even your comments. Spurs get a free SRP for nothing and it's the same monkey's pissing and moaning.

[Tyronn Lue]

Cant wait for the tribute video.
Beautiful Game for visually impaired.

[spurraider21]

:rollin

Did you read this thread? Even your comments. Spurs get a free SRP for nothing and it's the same monkey's pissing and moaning.
please. direct me to my comment where i said this was a bad trade for the spurs.

[exstatic]

:rollin

Did you read this thread? Even your comments. Spurs get a free SRP for nothing and it's the same monkey's pissing and moaning.

Well, they might have to cover part of the salary.

[Leetonidas]

Mr. Body with the pre-emptive sniff :lol

[Mugen]

Another 2nd round pick they'll waste tbh :lol

[Mugen]

I know people are crapping on this trade, but sometimes you can get nice talent in the second. Like this year if we would have had a pick in the mid 30s we could have gotten Johnny Furphy for example.

:lol

[Mr. Body]

Another 2nd round pick they'll waste tbh :lol

:rollin

Just insufferable little shits here. It's hilarious.

[Mugen]

This where Sacto sends enough money to cover, so the Spurs get yet another free SRP and then the big brains around here piss all over their fingers and make it seem like the worst thing ever?

Nobody is freaking out over the trade, nerd. :lol

[Mugen]

Making fun of the FO having wasted the last few 2nd rounders = Making this nothing burger trade seem like the worst thing ever

Pop better start hitting that elliptical because the Sniff Crew is aiming for a career year this season tbh :lol

[scott]

:rollin

I love to be pissed on

[KingKev]

^ Damn we all have our kinks. Why I stay screaming Free R Kelly

[Splits]

thinking back to 2023 draft when we had the #33 overall pick in a good draft and traded it for 2 future SRPs :lol

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[Splits]

By the time this pick conveys, it will be VW's son BMW and he will follow in LBJ's footsteps of playing on the same team as his offspring

[Splits]

Mr. Body https://i.imgur.com/lAYD7do.gif PATFO

[DAF86]

Brian Wright and second round picks:

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[Dex]

We need to keep a roster spot open in case Bryn Forbes decides to come back to the NBA

[Splits]

We need to keep a roster spot open in case Bryn Forbes decides to come back to the NBA

Keep in mind, Matty Bonner's son August will be 19 in 2031.... hmmm

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Is there an overall limit in how much you can receive, or is it just a limit per trade?


i know theres a limit to how much cash considerations a given team can pay per season. bruno would know better than i do, but im not sure if theres a cap on how much one team can receive

Think the limit to send/receive was around $6.8 mil last season, so probably a little over 7 mil for this one. Spurs make pretty good use of it.

[RC_Drunkford]

Mrs. Body can‘t take a joke. Why don‘t you go and kill yourself

[8FOR!3]

Do ya'll ever think the Spurs do these too as small favors to other teams when it doesn't hurt the Spurs not to and it makes the teams more willing to work with them in the future? Could be complete bullshit I've just always been curious if that had anything whatsoever to do with it. But I'm sure there are some front offices that don't want to help each other out.

[Bruno]

Is there an overall limit in how much you can receive, or is it just a limit per trade?

For the 2024-2025 season can't give and can't receive more than $7.2M in cash.

Last season, Spurs received the max allowed cash and didn't send out cash:
https://www.sportsbusinessclassroom.com/nba-available-cash-in-trade-2023-24/
The draft day trade, Furphy for Nunez+Cash, was officially made in July because Spurs weren't allowed to get more cash in 2023-2024.

[Bruno]

This is the current state of future Spurs second round picks per year:
2025: 2
2026: 5
2027: 3
2028: 4
2029: 3
2030: 2
2031: 2

Some notes:
- These numbers are with the likely hypothesis that Hornets don't make the playoffs this season and their lottery protected first round pick turn into 2 second round picks.
- In 2026, one of the second round pick is the worst of Thunder, Mavs and 76ers: it will likely be a very late second round pick.

Spurs will have a lot of trades to do if they don't want to end up being submerged by these picks.

[Splits]

This is the current state of future Spurs second round picks per year:
2025: 2
2026: 5
2027: 3
2028: 4
2029: 3
2030: 2
2031: 2

Some notes:
- These numbers are with the likely hypothesis that Hornets don't make the playoffs this season and their lottery protected first round pick turn into 2 second round picks.
- In 2026, one of the second round pick is the worst of Thunder, Mavs and 76ers: it will likely be a very late second round pick.

Spurs will have a lot of trades to do if they don't want to end up being submerged by these picks.

:lol ridiculous. wtf do you do with all this garbage? oh right, leverage those 2nds to max out cash into Holt's pockets every year.

[Pauleta14]

Do ya'll ever think the Spurs do these too as small favors to other teams when it doesn't hurt the Spurs not to and it makes the teams more willing to work with them in the future? Could be complete bullshit I've just always been curious if that had anything whatsoever to do with it. But I'm sure there are some front offices that don't want to help each other out.

Spurs got the money to cover the salary and an unprotected 2RP

They didn't do any favour. They won a 2RP for nothing

[spurraider21]

:lol ridiculous. wtf do you do with all this garbage? oh right, leverage those 2nds to max out cash into Holt's pockets every year.
They’re not profiting off these trades. They’re eating 5-7 million to acquire one pick and a time. They’re not selling them for that amount

[CGD]

:lol ridiculous. wtf do you do with all this garbage? oh right, leverage those 2nds to max out cash into Holt's pockets every year.

That’s or use to salary dump players/upgrade pick quality. Was it last season or the one before that SRPs where being handed out like candy because no one wanted to sent out FRPs? That was the Richardson situation if I recall correctly

[Ice009]

Darn, I thought this was a blockbuster trade with Minnesota. I take it this guy is nowhere near as good as his younger brother for the Spurs to waive him already. He wasn't worth taking a look at? His stats looked alright up until his most recent stint with the Raptors.

[exstatic]

Darn, I thought this was a blockbuster trade with Minnesota. I take it this guy is nowhere near as good as his younger brother for the Spurs to waive him already. He wasn't worth taking a look at? His stats looked alright up until his most recent stint with the Raptors.

We don’t really need 26 YO projects, with our stash of draft picks. Even if you assume that they offload every SRP except one per year, that’s a lot of picks left.

We won the lottery. We can stop looking for loose change between the couch cushions.

[rankingtear]

:lol ridiculous. wtf do you do with all this garbage? oh right, leverage those 2nds to max out cash into Holt's pockets every year.

They are going to monopolize the draft and stash market and get a big fat unathletic serbian that passes well.

[OldMan88]

Watching these off season trades involving waived players & picks is like watching your sister learn how to parallel park.

[Splits]

They’re not profiting off these trades. They’re eating 5-7 million to acquire one pick and a time. They’re not selling them for that amount

wut? re-read Bruno's post and link. Holt is chewing through every $ of the 7m he's allowed to eat

[spurraider21]

wut? re-read Bruno's post and link. Holt is chewing through every $ of the 7m he's allowed to eat
ok, so if the annual cap is ~7 million, how much money did holt lose by trading for and waiving Reggie Bullock, Cam Payne, and Marcus Morris?

[Splits]

ok, so if the annual cap is ~7 million, how much money did holt lose by trading for and waiving Reggie Bullock, Cam Payne, and Marcus Morris?

lose? you mean gain

[spurraider21]

lose? you mean gain
no, i meant lose

if you think Holt made money off of trading for and waiving players last summer, then i have a job for you in this banana stand


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSS7iJUsYCY

[Splits]

no, i meant lose

if you think Holt made money off of trading for and waiving players last summer, then i have a job for you in this banana stand


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSS7iJUsYCY

bend over (and hold your ankles), I'll give you a banana stand

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[spurraider21]

bend over (and hold your ankles), I'll give you a banana stand

https://i.ibb.co/vXTF6K6/image.png
awesome. so they received 7 mil in total for those transactions. now how much did they pay Reggie Bullock and Cam Payne?

[Mugen]

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[exstatic]

awesome. so they received 7 mil in total for those transactions. now how much did they pay Reggie Bullock and Cam Payne?

An amount that would allow them to reach the salary floor.

[KingKev]

Cam Payne was paid 6.5mm alone

[spurraider21]

An amount that would allow them to reach the salary floor.
last year's floor was 122 mil and the spurs ended up at a 140mil cap figure

[KingKev]

Anyone arguing the amount of dead cap PATFO has been running since the DDR/LMA era doesn’t understand quick maffs.

[exstatic]

last year's floor was 122 mil and the spurs ended up at a 140mil cap figure

Then they accomplished the task of meeting the floor, thereby triggering the luxtax payer pot distribution check.

[spurraider21]

Then they accomplished the task of meeting the floor, thereby triggering the luxtax payer pot distribution check.
they could have spent 122 mil and triggered the distribution check. they went up to 140. ive been plenty critical of some of the cheapskate tendencies of ownership and FO but acting like spending millions in these trades to acquire SRPs is a way for holt to "make" money is just ludicrous banana stand math

[Bruno]

https://x.com/BobbyMarks42/status/1846542711605580274

So:

- Spurs got $1M for the #35 for #36 swap.

- The $110K they got from Charlotte is to make the Devonte' Graham trade work cba wise.

- It's unclear how much the $2M cover of McDaniels salary because the payment structure of his contract is unknown. It's also unclear if Kings could have given more cash because they already gave some cash to Bulls in the DDR S&T to cover Duarte salary.

[spurraider21]

:lol kings signed mcdermott

they moved mcdaniels so that they could sign Doug without going over the apron

[spurraider21]

So:

- Spurs got $1M for the #35 for #36 swap.

- The $110K they got from Charlotte is to make the Devonte' Graham trade work cba wise.

- It's unclear how much the $2M cover of McDaniels salary because the payment structure of his contract is unknown. It's also unclear if Kings could have given more cash because they already gave some cash to Bulls in the DDR S&T to cover Duarte salary.
holt getting 2 million to cover 4.7mil in salary as a way to make money

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[Bruno]

holt getting 2 million to cover 4.7mil in salary as a way to make money


Yep, Spurs aren't making money with that trade. Up to 50% of a player's salary can be paid before the start of the season. This trade will cost Spurs between $370K and $2.74M.

And while you can criticize some of Spurs FO moves since getting Wembanyama, I don't think one of these moves was made because the ownership was cheap. A potential cheapness of the ownership might hurt Spurs in the future with luxury tax issues, but it is quite a non-factor right now.

[CGD]

They just built a best in class practice campus, and are about to drop serious money on a new stadium. No one can accuse them of being cheap.

[scott]

Do ya'll ever think the Spurs do these too as small favors to other teams when it doesn't hurt the Spurs not to and it makes the teams more willing to work with them in the future? Could be complete bullshit I've just always been curious if that had anything whatsoever to do with it. But I'm sure there are some front offices that don't want to help each other out.

I think it’s a big part of it and why you see the Spurs do multiple deals with the same team (TOR, MIN, SAC most recently)

[scott]

They just built a best in class practice campus, and are about to drop serious money on a new stadium. No one can accuse them of being cheap.

Last I heard they were asking the City and County to foot most of the bill. Has that changed?

[ChumpDumper]

Last I heard they were asking the City and County to foot most of the bill. Has that changed?

$240 million is serious money IMO.

[scott]

$240 million is serious money IMO.

Less than 1 year annual revenue.

[Vienna]

Yep, Spurs aren't making money with that trade. Up to 50% of a player's salary can be paid before the start of the season. This trade will cost Spurs between $370K and $2.74M.

And while you can criticize some of Spurs FO moves since getting Wembanyama, I don't think one of these moves was made because the ownership was cheap. A potential cheapness of the ownership might hurt Spurs in the future with luxury tax issues, but it is quite a non-factor right now.

It's just a guess, but it could primarily be about building relationships for the future. well, they might not hand out those John Wick medallions you can use later to demand a service, but there might be something like "I owe you something". I also don't know about connections between Spurs and Kings (sure, there ist the Mike Brown - Pop friendship), but I can see McNair and Wright, both are the same age and have had a similar career path, see themselfs less as competitors, but as potential allies, at least in some situations, when you need help from another team to make something work. McNair will be playing an important role in the NBA for the next, say, 25 years. they will inevitable cross paths many times in the future.
Spurs will face the big moment in two years, when convincing Wemby to sign the extension will be the decisive event. it might take some major moves to build a future contender at that moment to keep Wemby in the house. stockpiling future picks as trade assets and some virtual debt coins might be a good strategy for that day.

[ChumpDumper]

Less than 1 year annual revenue.

You're saying this isn't serious money?

It could've been 50 million like another small market or zero if some market without a team enters the chat.

That's just how it goes.

[Mr. Body]

Do ya'll ever think the Spurs do these too as small favors to other teams when it doesn't hurt the Spurs not to and it makes the teams more willing to work with them in the future? Could be complete bullshit I've just always been curious if that had anything whatsoever to do with it. But I'm sure there are some front offices that don't want to help each other out.

Definitely. The Spurs clearly have good relationships with several franchises and you'll often see other franchises often working with each other. I'd say the Spurs seem to have great relationships with Miami and Toronto. They probably have good relationships with Chicago and Sacramento. There may be others.

This is a consequence of Ainge being a hard-ass, btw, trying to win each trade. I don't think teams want to deal with him.

[The Truth #6]

Seems like they like to pick up SRPs whenever possible. It's a weird paradox. They want to be very flexible to make moves in the future but also avoid making big moves in the moment. I'm not saying it's a bad strategy right now necessarily but sort of funny to me.

[LeBowen]

Seems like they like to pick up SRPs whenever possible. It's a weird paradox. They want to be very flexible to make moves in the future but also avoid making big moves in the moment. I'm not saying it's a bad strategy right now necessarily but sort of funny to me.

We'll never know what they were offering for Markkanen, but I'd argue that there were no other big moves to be made this offseason.

I expect a serious wing upgrade next summer and a good backup big.
Can't see us going for any guards in the foreseeable future.

[spurraider21]

Seems like they like to pick up SRPs whenever possible. It's a weird paradox. They want to be very flexible to make moves in the future but also avoid making big moves in the moment. I'm not saying it's a bad strategy right now necessarily but sort of funny to me.
acquiring SRPs is fun. spending them... not so much. they're going to need to be able to start using them as a form of currency (we did so to unload devonte graham in order to create the relevant space for paul/barnes). want to see them start using SRPs to try to move up in drafts.

[LeBowen]

acquiring SRPs is fun. spending them... not so much. they're going to need to be able to start using them as a form of currency (we did so to unload devonte graham in order to create the relevant space for paul/barnes). want to see them start using SRPs to try to move up in drafts.

We got 5 SRPs in 2025. Could easily move into late first round if there's a player they like.
Considering how few picks most teams have, SRPs will be useful for acquiring solid role players.

[spurraider21]

We got 5 SRPs in 2025. Could easily move into late first round if there's a player they like.
Considering how few picks most teams have, SRPs will be useful for acquiring solid role players.
what team is going to want to trade for 5 SRPs in the same draft all at once?

[LeBowen]

what team is going to want to trade for 5 SRPs in the same draft all at once?

2026*, not 2025, my bad.

They don't have to keep all 5.
Playoff teams with no cap space prefer early second rounders to late FRPs unless there's a player they really like.

[The Truth #6]

I agree that they're looking at these picks as currency, and not necessarily trying to add a bunch of players at once.

Punting on #8 was bad in the moment, but the off-season was still progress.

[Mr. Body]

Seems like they like to pick up SRPs whenever possible. It's a weird paradox. They want to be very flexible to make moves in the future but also avoid making big moves in the moment. I'm not saying it's a bad strategy right now necessarily but sort of funny to me.

Making moves just to make moves doesn't make sense. They still don't know precisely what they need and what works on this team. Why force trades when you're not ready?

[Mr. Body]

I agree that they're looking at these picks as currency, and not necessarily trying to add a bunch of players at once.

Punting on #8 was bad in the moment, but the off-season was still progress.

My theory is that they were targeting absorbing Chris Paul with the cap. Taking the pick would have wiped that out.

And I think we'll see no player in that range will be worth that salary.

[The Truth #6]

Yeah, if that's true, I'll take CP3 for a year and punt the pick. But the team needs talent infusion.

Tangent: for the eight pic I would have been very interested in taking dillingham if nothing else then as an asset because I think he will put up good offensive numbers, or a less popular idea, I would have taken Zach at 8, because even though he would have been a backup center I think that it's super valuable to not overplay victor, but also to have a credible second team, because without Victor we are the worst team in the league oftentimes.

[exstatic]

Yeah, if that's true, I'll take CP3 for a year and punt the pick. But the team needs talent infusion.

Tangent: for the eight pic I would have been very interested in taking dillingham if nothing else then as an asset because I think he will put up good offensive numbers, or a less popular idea, I would have taken Zach at 8, because even though he would have been a backup center I think that it's super valuable to not overplay victor, but also to have a credible second team, because without Victor we are the worst team in the league oftentimes.

Rob Dillingham himself said in a draft night interview that he was surprised by the pick until his agent told him about the trade, since SA hadn’t been interested. If we had kept the pick, it wasn’t going to be Dillingham.

I’m not at all down with taking a bench player, Dilly or Edey, with pick #8. I want someone who is going to be projected to start, and if they come up short,then maybe the bench or a trade, but drafting a bench player with intent at #8 isn’t OK with me. I would have had a problem with punting #8 if there was even 1-4 protection on the pick or swap, but a swap protected for #1 and a completely unprotected pick is fine. Gobert will age out, and Ant will leave like all of their stars eventually do. They’ll either be great assets, or something to dangle in front of Ainge to complete his set of Minny assets, so he can go after Ant at age 27, his athletic peak.

[scott]

You're saying this isn't serious money?

It could've been 50 million like another small market or zero if some market without a team enters the chat.

That's just how it goes.

It's all relative. If the Spurs offered $10MM/year to PG13... would that have been serious money? I mean... it's $10MM right?

I'm not even faulting the Spurs... but I do think they should pony up a little more for the arena that will benefit them as the primary tenant. Honestly, I think the Spurs should just pay for the whole thing and completely own the concessions and rental revenue.... but I'll also admit I don't fully grasp the economics of such a thing. Surely someone on their staff does and that's why they aren't proposing it.