Kawhi Leonard out indefinitely with knee injury. Look like LAC's 2025 draft pick will be a lottery pick to OKC

[spursparker9]

OKC with potential to add Flagg and also future lottery pick from LAC...

Look like OKC will remains as the Spurs killer during Wemby's era.

[BacktoBasics]

This fucktard deserves every bad thing that ever happens to him.

[exstatic]

OKC with potential to add Flagg and also future lottery pick from LAC...

Look like OKC will remains as the Spurs killer during Wemby's era.

With Harden and, say, 45-50 games of Kawhi, that floor is pretty high. I DGAF if they flame out in the playoffs, just that they get there.

[itzsoweezee]

Clippers aren’t cursed, they’re just stupid.

[Ice009]

Where's the link/source? I wanted to read the article.

[Fizziksman]

what an awful trade lol. This is why I hate when the media hypes of players like Tatum or Paul George. It overvalues them and makes dumb owners make ridiculous offers.

[John B]

The Clippers just got a 2billion new home. I doubt Balmer let them tank.

[dn0774]

Any chance Balmer says “**** it” and trades for Brandon Ingram or Zach Lavine? He seems the type to spoil OKC’s lottery plans just cause.

[John B]

Any chance Balmer says “**** it” and trades for Brandon Ingram or Zach Lavine? He seems the type to spoil OKC’s lottery plans just cause.

Balmer is the type who wants to stick it to the Lakers. He’ll buy every player available.

Nah I don’t believe the OKC will get a lottery pick off Clips’ pick if Balmer can do something about it.

[exstatic]

Balmer is the type who wants to stick it to the Lakers. He’ll buy every player available.

Nah I don’t believe the OKC will get a lottery pick off Clips’ pick if Balmer can do something about it.

Why didn’t he buy Paul George, then?

[John B]

Why didn’t he buy Paul George, then?

I think the Clips tried but the Sixers came with a sweet offer, plus playing with Embiid, Maxxey, Paul thought, could get him to a ring. Personally I’d leave Kawhi’s drama too

[tim_duncan_fan]

It's hard not to feel vindictively, self-righteously satisfied at this guy having a bad time lol. Still can't believe he and Uncle engineered that crazy exit from a storied, mostly still well-run organization.

But things happen for a reason. Kawhi is old before his time as politics wreck his team, and we are overbearingly young and possibly talented, with seemingly none of them being knuckleheads.

Had to go through some things to start getting to the good shit. The Spurs' story since Kawhi left has been setting up '13 to '14, a major setback into what looks like a major comeback just ahead.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

I wonder if Pop will travel to Los Angeles to chastise the Clippers fans when they start booing Kawhi?

Kawhi is a mess, but a rich one. Probably about done at this point. I don’t see him ever coming back at full strength.

He’s milked millions of dollars out of these teams and hardly played the last few years, and really never significantly in the post season. He’s truly an autistic genius. The epitome of the idiot savant.

[baseline bum]

I think the Clips tried but the Sixers came with a sweet offer, plus playing with Embiid, Maxxey, Paul thought, could get him to a ring. Personally I’d leave Kawhi’s drama too

Nah PG13 wanted the contract they just gave Kawhi and they told him no so he walked.

[slick'81]

Poor kawhai:lol

[Dex]

With Harden and, say, 45-50 games of Kawhi, that floor is pretty high. I DGAF if they flame out in the playoffs, just that they get there.

Yeah, I think the Clippers are going to be bad if Kawhi misses major time, but there is no way they are gonna be bad enough for a top 3 pick.

Obviously some crazy lottery luck could happen

[Dex]

I wonder if Pop will travel to Los Angeles to chastise the Clippers fans when they start booing Kawhi?

Kawhi is a mess, but a rich one. Probably about done at this point. I don’t see him ever coming back at full strength.

He’s milked millions of dollars out of these teams and hardly played the last few years, and really never significantly in the post season. He’s truly an autistic genius. The epitome of the idiot savant.

Dude still collecting checks from that time he dragged Toronto to a championship on one leg five years ago

[baseline bum]

Balmer is the type who wants to stick it to the Lakers. He’ll buy every player available.

Nah I don’t believe the OKC will get a lottery pick off Clips’ pick if Balmer can do something about it.

Balmer's such a dipshit buying a team that LA will never give a shit about and then building a new arena there. Would have been way better off moving them back to San Diego or to Seattle where he could have a real fanbase.

[Leetonidas]

:lol still can't wipe his own ass

[Leetonidas]

Nah PG13 wanted the contract they just gave Kawhi and they told him no so he walked.

Coulda swore I read that they offered the same contract as Kawhi which was a little less than the max but PG wanted the full max and LAC refused

[spurraider21]

Coulda swore I read that they offered the same contract as Kawhi which was a little less than the max but PG wanted the full max and LAC refused
he could be lying, but PG said in one of his podcasts that he told them to just give him what kawhi got and they declined

[LeBowen]

Iirc some reports said it was about the length of the deal Clippers offered.
Apparently Spurs were also interested, but had no intention of offering an injury prone 34 year old a long deal.

[Teamduncan21]

he could be lying, but PG said in one of his podcasts that he told them to just give him what kawhi got and they declined

I recall they initially declined. Then after months of negotiation. Clippers agreed. But now it felt cheap so he didn't take it

[daslicer]

You guys are trying too hard in playing 4D chess with worrying about the Thunder. I will worry about the Thunder the moment the Spurs become a contender. Thunder is a loaded team but the way the cap is eventually they will lose some of those players they have once they are off the rookie contract.

As for Kawhi the media and casual fans are starting to find out that he's a toxic asset which is something we found out way back in 2018. It just took them 6 years to find out due to them slurping him back then in hopes he would become a Laker.

[Mugen]

What a fucking fleece by Nephew and Uncle Dennis. You gotta hand it to them, got everything they ever wanted these last 5-6 years tbh :lol

[heyheymymy]

hmmm separation from the team, no communication, choosing when he plays, vague ailments, murky return ETAs

we tried to warn you

[Bill_Brasky]

The Clippers deserve it. They really are stupid. Kawhi told you everything about who he is by the way he did San Antonio, tbh. Only thing that sucks is those dumb meth heads benefit from it.

[Barfunk]

Pfft. Some of us always knew the Spurs/Pop/FO were not in the wrong from the jump.

[timtonymanu]

It was definitely overblown and the media drivel was done to push him to LA. They got their wish, the Clippers at least.

[CGD]

The Sandy Koufax of basketball?

[Dex]

It was definitely overblown and the media drivel was done to push him to LA. They got their wish, the Clippers at least.

Uncle Dennis got his wish. Kawhi is being paid millions of dollars to live in L.A. and sit out games while being treated like a celebrity, and he hasn't done anything meaningful since he has been there.

I can't believe NBA actually featured Leonard in the NBA Tip-Off commercial they keep running and this dude isn't gonna play for months.

[Rosewood]

I would say I feel bad for Clippers fans but I don’t think they have any.

Hope Kawhi’s knee falls off and he’s crippled forever tbh.

[spursparker9]

Yeah, I think the Clippers are going to be bad if Kawhi misses major time, but there is no way they are gonna be bad enough for a top 3 pick.

Obviously some crazy lottery luck could happen

Hard to say tbh. Their only star player available now is Harden who has history of sulking and forcing his way out.

Beside 2025 draft pick, LAC still owes OKC other years draft pick and OKC will have more and more lottery picks from LAC. LAC has no draft picks that belong to them until 2030

[poopbox]

Coulda swore I read that they offered the same contract as Kawhi which was a little less than the max but PG wanted the full max and LAC refused

He asked for the same contract as Kawhi when Kawhi got extended but he said the Clippers were low balling him something crazy so that made him mad.

Then he said eventually they did offer him the same deal as Kawhi but he felt like they would end up trading him so he asked for a no trade clause and they said no.

By the time that happened he already knew Philly was going to offer him a full 4 year max so he just decided to leave.

He tells the whole story on his podcast.

[Frenchfred]

You guys are trying too hard in playing 4D chess with worrying about the Thunder. I will worry about the Thunder the moment the Spurs become a contender. Thunder is a loaded team but the way the cap is eventually they will lose some of those players they have once they are off the rookie contract.

As for Kawhi the media and casual fans are starting to find out that he's a toxic asset which is something we found out way back in 2018. It just took them 6 years to find out due to them slurping him back then in hopes he would become a Laker.

yep, next year they have Chet, Jalen Williams coming up for their last year so they'll both probably command 50-60 between the two of them.

[Dex]

Hard to say tbh. Their only star player available now is Harden who has history of sulking and forcing his way out.

Beside 2025 draft pick, LAC still owes OKC other years draft pick and OKC will have more and more lottery picks from LAC. LAC has no draft picks that belong to them until 2030

Maybe should have clarified that I don't see a path for OKC getting Flagg this year (via LAC).

Down the road, who knows what will happen with that garbage franchise.

[KingKev]

Hard to say tbh. Their only star player available now is Harden who has history of sulking and forcing his way out.

Beside 2025 draft pick, LAC still owes OKC other years draft pick and OKC will have more and more lottery picks from LAC. LAC has no draft picks that belong to them until 2030

Some of those are swaps so they do have FRPs before than but still a poor position to be in.

[koriwhat]

I hope he never plays again. Fuck Leonard!

[itzsoweezee]

I don’t think people realize just how much Harden has fallen off. That guy isn’t leading a team anywhere but the lottery. The Clippers have some decent role players, so they might squeak into the play-in, but it’s going to be very bleak in clippers land for years to come because Balmer seems to be almost as stupid as the guy who bought the team from

[Tyronn Lue]

Why didn’t he buy Paul George, then?
He made that mistake once. When NBA players want to play for the Clippers and don't consider them the assisted living arrangement of the NBA soon to retire, it could change there. Maybe under Balmer, maybe not.

[baseline bum]

I hope he never plays again. Fuck Leonard!

Gotta disagree, I hope he still continues playing just enough to give them false hope come playoff time and then he has to sit again. Need to keep the Clippers from getting an injury exception and to keep the Thunder from getting a high pick to land a guy like Cooper Flagg, Ace Bailey, Dylan Harper, AJ Dybantsa, Cam Boozer, etc since they own the Clippers drafts for years.

[RC_Drunkford]

Clippers roster is so bad they will be in the lottery without Kawhi. All they left with are washed up Harden, Zubac and Powell.

[polandprzem]

I wonder if Pop will travel to Los Angeles to chastise the Clippers fans when they start booing Kawhi?

Kawhi is a mess, but a rich one. Probably about done at this point. I don’t see him ever coming back at full strength.

He’s milked millions of dollars out of these teams and hardly played the last few years, and really never significantly in the post season. He’s truly an autistic genius. The epitome of the idiot savant.

They knew who they were paying.

[LeBowen]

Clippers roster is so bad they will be in the lottery without Kawhi. All they left with are washed up Harden, Zubac and Powell.

Harden
Mann
Derrick Jones Jr
Batum
Zubac

With Powell looking like the only good bench piece.
I can't take Bones Hyland and Coffey seriously. That roster is actually really bad.
Without nephew, it would take prime Harden to get them into the play-in. Like this, they could easily end below Spurs if he's not back soon.

[KingKev]

Harden
Mann
Derrick Jones Jr
Batum
Zubac

With Powell looking like the only good bench piece.
I can't take Bones Hyland and Coffey seriously. That roster is actually really bad.
Without nephew, it would take prime Harden to get them into the play-in. Like this, they could easily end below Spurs if he's not back soon.

Harden is licking his chops right now. This team will casually win 35-40 games with him dominating the ball.

[z0sa]

I wonder if Pop will travel to Los Angeles to chastise the Clippers fans when they start booing Kawhi?

:lol this was my first thought as well. Nice.


Kawhi is a mess, but a rich one. Probably about done at this point. I don’t see him ever coming back at full strength.

He’s milked millions of dollars out of these teams and hardly played the last few years, and really never significantly in the post season. He’s truly an autistic genius. The epitome of the idiot savant.

Spot on. A lot of people trash talk Nephew and Uncle, but putting loyalty aside, he did well for Kawhi, got him home, et cetera. It's a shitty way of doing business, but a business it remains.

Still, fuck 'em both. Glad we at least got a couple of Finals appearances and a ring out of it.

[Mitch Cumsteen]

Harden is licking his chops right now. This team will casually win 35-40 games with him dominating the ball.

For sure. He's got a player option for next season and is reportedly in the best shape of his life. This would be the classic time for him to come out guns blazing, drag them to the playoffs, get a terrible overpay from Ballmer, and then spend the twilight years of his career ballooning up and putting in overtime at the tiddy bar.

[spurs10]

They need to pay him more. How about a $500 million contract?

[KingKev]

For sure. He's got a player option for next season and is reportedly in the best shape of his life. This would be the classic time for him to come out guns blazing, drag them to the playoffs, get a terrible overpay from Ballmer, and then spend the twilight years of his career ballooning up and putting in overtime at the tiddy bar.

I mean personally I can’t hate like I’d likely do the same thing but man I don’t know how NBA GMs don’t see this or maybe they are just getting paid also and don’t give a fk.

[MackAttack003]

I wonder if Pop will travel to Los Angeles to chastise the Clippers fans when they start booing Kawhi?

Kawhi is a mess, but a rich one. Probably about done at this point. I don’t see him ever coming back at full strength.

He’s milked millions of dollars out of these teams and hardly played the last few years, and really never significantly in the post season. He’s truly an autistic genius. The epitome of the idiot savant.
I don't get it. Why would Pop address Clipper fans in L.A.? Foes he have that much influence? I think you give him too much credit.

[ismael-robert]

I don't get it. Why would Pop address Clipper fans in L.A.? Foes he have that much influence? I think you give him too much credit.

Oh geeze, dude u had 30 posts should've left it that way...that was his attempt at humor/sarcasm...yikes

[libertarian4321]

Uncle must want punk Nephew to take his talents to Miami or something. He'll probably sit out the year with another fake injury and force his way out, just like he did to SA.

[TheDoctor]

I wonder if Pop will travel to Los Angeles to chastise the Clippers fans when they start booing Kawhi?

Kawhi is a mess, but a rich one. Probably about done at this point. I don’t see him ever coming back at full strength.

He’s milked millions of dollars out of these teams and hardly played the last few years, and really never significantly in the post season. He’s truly an autistic genius. The epitome of the idiot savant.

:lol :lol

[spursparker9]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPKMpxkZMMY&ab_channel=BrianSuttererMD

Nephew's trainer is suing LAC :lol

[Ice009]

What happened to the trainer suing the Clippers thread? Did it get deleted?

[mystargtr34]

Is that the Castleberry guy that had his head
Up Kawhis ass while h was here

[Gervin44Silas13]

Kawhi is the BIGGEST pariah in the NBA......didn't want to be the man in San Antonio, got lucky with a chip in Toronto....fuck this guy and his uncle...this jag off fakes injuries and steals money...sore knee GTFO...guy is a illability ...he just dosen't want to play but get paid....reminds me of city workers don't do shit to get paid.

[Ice009]

I'm pretty sure Kawhi wants to play. He's probably worked as hard as he can to get the knee right. Maybe he can't play without pain, or maybe that knee is really, really messed up, but I don't think he's looking to not play.

[objective]

"You are hiding a nephew, let that Kawhi come home." - Pop T

[exstatic]

I'm pretty sure Kawhi wants to play. He's probably worked as hard as he can to get the knee right. Maybe he can't play without pain, or maybe that knee is really, really messed up, but I don't think he's looking to not play.

Karma for faking that shit for an entire year while playing hide and seek with the Spurs.

[KingKev]

"You are hiding a nephew, let that Kawhi come home." - Pop T

Yuuuuuukkkk (Pusha voice)

[spurraider21]

yeah one thing im not going to accuse nephew of is not wanting to play basketball

[heyheymymy]

[Tynan] Lawsuit alleges the Clippers tampered by communicating with Kawhi through his personal trainer when the rift between Leonard and the Spurs started getting media attention in 2017, then again by having personnel in attendance for 75 percent of Raptors games during their title run.

[TDomination]

Who knows but if he had just stuck with the Spurs and knowing the way the Spurs handle injured players, he may have had healthier trajectory than what he has now.



Former Clippers trainer suing team, says he was fired for voicing concerns over Kawhi Leonard injuries


A former trainer with the Los Angeles Clippers (https://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/la-clippers/) is suing the team for wrongful termination, claiming he was dismissed for raising concerns over the treatment Kawhi Leonard was receiving for his injuries.
Randy Shelton is claiming in a lawsuit that he was "fired after complaining Kawhi Leonard was being subjected to unsafe and illegal treatments for injuries," reports Chris Haynes (https://x.com/ChrisBHaynes/status/1849545974903181773).
The Clippers responded with a statement to Haynes (https://x.com/ChrisBHaynes/status/1849545974903181773), disputing the claims.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/former-clippers-trainer-suing-team-says-he-was-fired-for-voicing-concerns-over-kawhi-leonard-injuries-205624034.html

[poopbox]

yeah one thing im not going to accuse nephew of is not wanting to play basketball

Funny enough the major crux of his trainer suing the clippers is that he and kawhi wanted 2 years to recover form his acl surgery and the clippers said absolutely not :lmao

Kawhi wanted over 700 days off between his acl surgery and the next time he played for the clippers:lmao

[Ice009]

So it's a former trainer suing the team, not one that still works for Kawhi.

Geez, that is wild if he wanted over 2 years off. It sort of just confirms what some of us think, that being, he wants to be 100% or as close to it as possible. That was the speculation when he sat out for the Spurs - he didn't want to play until he's 100% and the Spurs told him he'd have to learn to manage it and play with pain, but he didn't want to accept that and wanted to heal it fully. Sounds like he wanted to do the same thing with the Clippers.

[james evans]

OKC with potential to add Flagg and also future lottery pick from LAC...

Look like OKC will remains as the Spurs killer during Wemby's era.
they're not gonna be that bad to get the first pick hahaha. Stop overacting and reading MSN news.