Why is the Inland Empire such a dump?

[Millennial_Messiah]

I've been in SoCal these last few days spent most of the time in airports. One failed car dealership deal that I flew out for that they jacked up the price on me so I walked away and I'm in the process of flying back to Texas but only connecting flights are affordable.

The Inland Empire, which is pretty much anywhere east of LAX where I landed first out of SAT... every single suburb I've been to in the interim, driving and otherwise, is an absolute dump. 70% of everyone is Hispanic and don't speak English. 20% are non-Hispanic non-White and at most 10% are White and that might be generous. It's one massive ghetto and the nights are humid not the dry nice conditions everyone rave about. I go by the hair test, and my long locks of hair actually fared better in Florida (granted on a dry week) than California this week (it hasn't rained here either). California is humid. And disgusting. And there are no amenities, no restrooms in gas stations, no travel stops, everyone is rude, traffic and construction and road divergence is horrid, lane closures come at you with no warning, gas is stupid expensive (duh), food is stupid expensive, $6 for a 20-ounce pop, $20 for a burger, NOTHING is free here, Lyft is $55 for a 15 minute drive in moderate traffic, used car salesmen are assholes unlike in the midwest, no pleasant dark quaint quiet places to sleep in your car, no rest areas, everything is boarded up and lit up for "security" and fenced like in a turd world country... it's so ghetto... why would anyone live here? Is this even part of the United States?

I've been sitting in the Ontario, CA dumpy little airport for the past few hours after an hour wait in TSA (no joke). It's stupid. All stupid. And the only affordable way to get back home is with an 11 hour layover in Denver via frontier. Dumpy. Harrowing. Cheerless. Insipid. Loathsome.

[MultiTroll]

All kinds of attractive tight pussy there.

Home to fabulous Loma Linda University and it's related medical centers.
More then 25 colleges and uni's in the area.
Very diverse, not the purported beaner numbers you fabricate.

Come back with a new attitude or GTFO.

[MultiTroll]

and the Gay bars you're paying 6 a drink and 20 hamburgers are your own choosing.

Much better options exist. So to a Super Market for the drink and get a hamburger elsewhere.

[Spurs Homer]

I've been in SoCal these last few days spent most of the time in airports. One failed car dealership deal that I flew out for that they jacked up the price on me so I walked away and I'm in the process of flying back to Texas but only connecting flights are affordable.

The Inland Empire, which is pretty much anywhere east of LAX where I landed first out of SAT... every single suburb I've been to in the interim, driving and otherwise, is an absolute dump. 70% of everyone is Hispanic and don't speak English. 20% are non-Hispanic non-White and at most 10% are White and that might be generous. It's one massive ghetto and the nights are humid not the dry nice conditions everyone rave about. I go by the hair test, and my long locks of hair actually fared better in Florida (granted on a dry week) than California this week (it hasn't rained here either). California is humid. And disgusting. And there are no amenities, no restrooms in gas stations, no travel stops, everyone is rude, traffic and construction and road divergence is horrid, lane closures come at you with no warning, gas is stupid expensive (duh), food is stupid expensive, $6 for a 20-ounce pop, $20 for a burger, NOTHING is free here, Lyft is $55 for a 15 minute drive in moderate traffic, used car salesmen are assholes unlike in the midwest, no pleasant dark quaint quiet places to sleep in your car, no rest areas, everything is boarded up and lit up for "security" and fenced like in a turd world country... it's so ghetto... why would anyone live here? Is this even part of the United States?

I've been sitting in the Ontario, CA dumpy little airport for the past few hours after an hour wait in TSA (no joke). It's stupid. All stupid. And the only affordable way to get back home is with an 11 hour layover in Denver via frontier. Dumpy. Harrowing. Cheerless. Insipid. Loathsome.

L.A. - as I always told people like you who were terrified after spending a day or two there...

has the absolute best and the worst of everything and that is what makes it one of the greatest places in the world to experience.

The first day everything is thrown at your senses...the haze in the air, the mass of humanity for miles and miles in any direction, the cars upon cars upon freeways upon freeways as described by Jim Morrison in "L.A. Woman"....

It is about 15-20 years AHEAD of the rest of the country. Want to know what will be cool in fucking Kansas or Wisconsin or Misery or texas or georgia in 20 years? Want to know what kind of beautiful mixes of gorgeous young women and what they will be wearing in 20 years? Spend 6 months to a year in Los Angeles and you will discover a place that gets into you and makes you fall in love with it.

You could be in areas like you describe and then drive 5 miles and you will find yourself in an area full of beauty,mountains, charming neighborhoods only seen in romantic comedies, beaches, etc...

it takes months and years to discover the best spots, best areas...

i miss it dearly at times - but I spent 20 years of my younger (single) life there and the memories and adventures are priceless and L.A. is probably more suitable for young people.

But -

pussies like you are immediately chewed up and spit out and you will flee back to trumplandia to your racist comfort zone...

celavie...

[Mark Celibate]

I've always liked that area tbh been to the Palm Springs area many times...imho, I actually thought someone like OP would enjoy it. There's plenty of areas where it's not massively populated and lots of conservative pockets

[CosmicCowboy]

Not sure why you could only find connecting flights. We fly non stop from SA to LAX on United at least 3 or 4 times a year

[Mark Celibate]

Not sure why you could only find connecting flights. We fly non stop from SA to LAX on United at least 3 or 4 times a year

he's cheap tbh

If you gave me Millenial Messiah's budget and enough money for a cup of coffee....I'd finally be able to afford a cup of coffee!

*Ba Dum Tss*

[Blake]

Not sure why you could only find connecting flights. We fly non stop from SA to LAX on United at least 3 or 4 times a year

I mean, G6s are cheap these days amirite? Even my pilot has a pilot.

[Ef-man]

OP did not put much effort in this thread

travel log :lobt:

dating discussion :lma

finance :lma

life choices :lma

voter landscape discussion :lma

hair :lobt2:

[Blake]

OP did not put much effort in this thread

travel log :lobt:

dating discussion :lma

finance :lma

life choices :lma

voter landscape discussion :lma

hair :lobt2:

I mean, he's so used to walking to Mordor on foot poor fella

[Millennial_Messiah]

L.A. - as I always told people like you who were terrified after spending a day or two there...

has the absolute best and the worst of everything and that is what makes it one of the greatest places in the world to experience.

The first day everything is thrown at your senses...the haze in the air, the mass of humanity for miles and miles in any direction, the cars upon cars upon freeways upon freeways as described by Jim Morrison in "L.A. Woman"....

It is about 15-20 years AHEAD of the rest of the country. Want to know what will be cool in fucking Kansas or Wisconsin or Misery or texas or georgia in 20 years? Want to know what kind of beautiful mixes of gorgeous young women and what they will be wearing in 20 years? Spend 6 months to a year in Los Angeles and you will discover a place that gets into you and makes you fall in love with it.

You could be in areas like you describe and then drive 5 miles and you will find yourself in an area full of beauty,mountains, charming neighborhoods only seen in romantic comedies, beaches, etc...

it takes months and years to discover the best spots, best areas...

i miss it dearly at times - but I spent 20 years of my younger (single) life there and the memories and adventures are priceless and L.A. is probably more suitable for young people.

But -

pussies like you are immediately chewed up and spit out and you will flee back to trumplandia to your racist comfort zone...

celavie...

Actually you know what LA and its metro reminds me of? Present day Toronto and its area, very regulated state and ultra diverse and similar vibes, just the hot and dry version instead of wet and (often) cold.


I've always liked that area tbh been to the Palm Springs area many times...imho, I actually thought someone like OP would enjoy it. There's plenty of areas where it's not massively populated and lots of conservative pockets
I did meet a Trump girl who loved F1 there... Ontario Cali. Let's Go Brandon hat... lol she was a baby. 24. so not a dating interest, but at least conservatives aren't dead in blue states.

The only reason it's not massively populated is because daytime highs are as hot as Phoenix and you're landlocked and surrounded by mountains and not much water supply.



Not sure why you could only find connecting flights. We fly non stop from SA to LAX on United at least 3 or 4 times a year

I did fly direct from SAT to LAX on Spirit for $219, got an aisle seat with a free pop on board at least. Don't like Spirit's snacks, they're all sweet, at least Southwest has the chex mix which isn't great but at least it's savory.

The issue is I'm flying spontaneously, i.e. same-day booking, living spontaneously, not planning shit out way too far in advance that I'll probably cancel due to weather or some other excuse.

[Will Hunting]

Inland Empire is basically all of the bad parts of living in CA without any of the good parts (weather, beaches, etc.)…that should tell you why it’s such a dump everywhere there.

Inland Empire is still worlds better than the Highway 99 cities in central / north inland California. Pretty much everywhere from Bakersfield to Sacramento is ass, and those two cities aren’t great either. Stockton and Modesto are probably the two worst major cities in California, the smaller cities south of them in the Central Valley are also mostly 70+% Hispanic agricultural cities with extreme poverty.

[Barfunk]

"Tall tale" - A tale or story which is fantastic and greatly exaggerated; also, an account of questionable veracity; a lie, an untruth.

[Barfunk]

lol fish stories

[FrostKing]

California is humid?

Saw this clip recently. Rings true.

https://youtu.be/X_LPpTpTPAI?si=JWd0qtLgCeMLkff6


California is collection of folks hustling to live in the attractive spots I.e. Beach. And yet you have a community of people accepting to live in the outskirts. Why? Move to another State with the same such benefits of the outskirts. Cheaper.

LA compared to SD is fenced and boarded up. There is nowhere to escape and be by yourself.

[FrostKing]

Actually you know what LA and its metro reminds me of? Present day Toronto and its area, very regulated state and ultra diverse and similar vibes, just the hot and dry version instead of wet and (often) cold.


I did meet a Trump girl who loved F1 there... Ontario Cali. Let's Go Brandon hat... lol she was a baby. 24. so not a dating interest, but at least conservatives aren't dead in blue states.

The only reason it's not massively populated is because daytime highs are as hot as Phoenix and you're landlocked and surrounded by mountains and not much water supply.




I did fly direct from SAT to LAX on Spirit for $219, got an aisle seat with a free pop on board at least. Don't like Spirit's snacks, they're all sweet, at least Southwest has the chex mix which isn't great but at least it's savory.

The issue is I'm flying spontaneously, i.e. same-day booking, living spontaneously, not planning shit out way too far in advance that I'll probably cancel due to weather or some other excuse.
Something I always hated bout my California after turning 27+

Everyone trying to be cool. The lingo and catch phrases. "My intentity". T-shirts and hats. It's Bomb, Killer. Bunch of filler words that ultimately don't illustrate or describe.

Too much weed.

[baseline bum]

Stockton and Modesto are probably the two worst major cities in California, the smaller cities south of them in the Central Valley are also mostly 70+% Hispanic agricultural cities with extreme poverty.

Merced's gotta be the worst IMO. That shit is so much nastier than any neighborhood of South Central, Long Beach, or Compton that I have ever been too. Watts is comparable I guess. Though Merced is an hour away from my favorite place on earth (Yosemite National Park) so gotta give it that at least.

[Barfunk]

OP is so full of shit, tbh.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Inland Empire is basically all of the bad parts of living in CA without any of the good parts (weather, beaches, etc.)…that should tell you why it’s such a dump everywhere there.

Inland Empire is still worlds better than the Highway 99 cities in central / north inland California. Pretty much everywhere from Bakersfield to Sacramento is ass, and those two cities aren’t great either. Stockton and Modesto are probably the two worst major cities in California, the smaller cities south of them in the Central Valley are also mostly 70+% Hispanic agricultural cities with extreme poverty.

Agreed completely. Both the Inland empire and the Valadao/Duarte territory is like that. Hot, sometimes humid, no beaches, still all the bad stuff about living in CA. Poor and homeless because it's the most expensive state in the lower 48 by far and also the most regulated.

[baseline bum]

Agreed completely. Both the Inland empire and the Valadao/Duarte territory is like that. Hot, sometimes humid, no beaches, still all the bad stuff about living in CA. Poor and homeless because it's the most expensive state in the lower 48 by far and also the most regulated.

Still got Reagan's NIMBY law on the books

[Will Hunting]

Still got Reagan's NIMBY law on the books
Don't forget him shutting down all the insane asylums in CA. That contributes a lot more to the homeless crisis and drug problems than NIMBY policies do.

[baseline bum]

Don't forget him shutting down all the insane asylums in CA. That contributes a lot more to the homeless crisis and drug problems than NIMBY policies do.

That was the case 15-20 years ago but now a lot of the homeless in Cali seem to be the working poor too. I don't know how LA can even have fast food as I can't imagine surviving out there on $20 an hour.

[Millennial_Messiah]

That was the case 15-20 years ago but now a lot of the homeless in Cali seem to be the working poor too. I don't know how LA can even have fast food as I can't imagine surviving out there on $20 an hour.
Maybe if they made the wage start at $7.25/hour like the good old days then people could actually afford fast food, ya think?

All big government raising minimum wage above market value is in economic terms is an inflationary price floor.

It's way past overdue that the governments stop regulating stores and restaurants and start regulating the crap out of the greedy trillionaire housing/asset manager companies like BlackRock and Pritzker Inc. A wealth cap legislation on corporations especially in the real estate business would be a nice start.

The problem is NOT that workers are "only" making $20/hour or $7.25/hour. The problem IS that they are paying $2000+ per month for rent. Crack down hard on the asset manager companies, support more competition from smaller landlords and individual homeowners, start to see those rents go back into the three digits, that's the way to fix inflation. Regulate the fuck out of BlackRock and all the way down. Force them to sell assets & seize if necessary.

[baseline bum]

Maybe if they made the wage start at $7.25/hour like the good old days then people could actually afford fast food, ya think?


Such bullshit, places like McDonalds just slashed their crew sizes so that it takes five to ten minutes to order now because everyone's too busy to come to the register. They're enormously profitable despite all their whining about wage increases.



All big government raising minimum wage above market value is in economic terms is an inflationary price floor.


Nonsense, a low minimum wage just means we subsidize McDonalds and Walmart and other shit paying companies when we pay for Medicaid, food stamps, and such for their workers.



It's way past overdue that the governments stop regulating stores and restaurants and start regulating the crap out of the greedy trillionaire housing/asset manager companies like BlackRock and Pritzker Inc. A wealth cap legislation on corporations especially in the real estate business would be a nice start.

The problem is NOT that workers are "only" making $20/hour or $7.25/hour. The problem IS that they are paying $2000+ per month for rent. Crack down hard on the asset manager companies, support more competition from smaller landlords and individual homeowners, start to see those rents go back into the three digits, that's the way to fix inflation. Regulate the fuck out of BlackRock and all the way down. Force them to sell assets & seize if necessary.

Corporate landlords should be regulated via guillotine.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Such bullshit, places like McDonalds just slashed their crew sizes so that it takes five to ten minutes to order now because everyone's too busy to come to the register. They're enormously profitable despite all their whining about wage increases.
99% of them nationwide are automated these days. You DIY order on a shitty kiosk (prices are 4+x higher than ten years ago), no cashier no tills, usually just one or two workers plus the cook is there. It's disgusting. I just want to bring a gun in and shoot those kiosks down to send a message. Blame corporate greed all you want but both supply and labor costs have skyrocketed massively since Covid and they have to save money somehow to keep their pre-covid profits in line. The wage hikes are in large part to blame even though there are plenty of jurisdictions with McDonalds that still have sub-$10 minimum wages. The increased corporate cost must be passed down to consumers some how, as well as sacrificing jobs.



Nonsense, a low minimum wage just means we subsidize McDonalds and Walmart and other shit paying companies when we pay for Medicaid, food stamps, and such for their workers.
While I do think large corporate minimum wage should be slightly higher than the minimum wage for smaller businesses, to help protect price competition for smaller business and local business, it's stupid to not acknowledge at all that a high government mandated minimum wage with respect to ordinary market wage has a stagflationary effect.



Corporate landlords should be regulated via guillotine.
:lol I don't disagree at all.

But, especially in the past 10-15 years since Citizens United v FEC, they have donated far, far, far more to blue team than red team.

[Blake]

There's no evidence at all that a higher minimum wage has a "stagflationary effect". There is however evidence to the contrary if you look for it.

[baseline bum]

Blame corporate greed all you want but both supply and labor costs have skyrocketed massively since Covid and they have to save money somehow to keep their pre-covid profits in line. The wage hikes are in large part to blame even though there are plenty of jurisdictions with McDonalds that still have sub-$10 minimum wages. The increased corporate cost must be passed down to consumers some how, as well as sacrificing jobs.



While I do think large corporate minimum wage should be slightly higher than the minimum wage for smaller businesses, to help protect price competition for smaller business and local business, it's stupid to not acknowledge at all that a high government mandated minimum wage with respect to ordinary market wage has a stagflationary effect.


ROFL parroting MSM talking points; they have done well manufacturing consent for price increases with you. If increased costs should necessarily increase prices why do decreased costs not decrease prices? E.g., see meat prices through the roof even though the packers are bleeding ranchers dry. But the corporations get the media to push this propaganda with their megaphones that manufactures consent for price increases and people just buy that crap and say it sounds reasonable even though prices are just set at whatever they think they can get away with charging.

[Ef-man]

ROFL parroting MSM talking points; they have done well manufacturing consent for price increases with you. If increased costs should necessarily increase prices why do decreased costs not decrease prices? E.g., see meat prices through the roof even though the packers are bleeding ranchers dry. But the corporations get the media to push this propaganda with their megaphones that manufactures consent for price increases and people just buy that crap and say it sounds reasonable even though prices are just set at whatever they think they can get away with charging.

Of course he fell for the talking points. This thread speaks to how easily he is manipulated.

He flew to Cali on impulse buy without doing his homework only to get shafted by dealership and crying about it. :lol