View Full Version : Will Saletan: Let's be honest: Trump's running as a fascist
Winehole23
10-21-2024, 09:01 AM
No longer crypto-, Trump's the dictionary definition.
Saletan lays it out point by point.
THE AGENDA TRUMP IS PRESENTING in these interviews and rallies—political violence, suspension of the Constitution, suspension of civil liberties, unchecked presidential power, censorship of the media, imprisonment of opposition leaders, execution of people for nonviolent crimes, and legal immunity for the president and his thugs—isn’t just close to fascism. It is fascism. It’s what fascists have advocated and practiced in other countries (https://www.britannica.com/topic/fascism).
We like to think that fascism can’t happen in America. But it’s happening right now. A president who tried to impose elements of fascism in his first term—and who then deployed mob violence in an attempt to stay in power—is seeking a mandate to go much further. And half of the electorate is on the brink of giving him that mandate.
Let’s Be Honest, Trump’s Running As a Fascist (https://www.thebulwark.com/p/lets-be-honest-trumps-running-as)
Winehole23
10-21-2024, 09:03 AM
amazingly, deporting 10-15 million people barely gets mentioned
SnakeBoy
10-21-2024, 09:05 AM
lol
Blake
10-21-2024, 09:21 AM
lol
Let's be honest, none of your team cares as long as the libs get pwned
velik_m
10-21-2024, 09:51 AM
Let's be honest, none of your team cares as long as the libs get pwned
That's simply not true, they very much do care that he's trying to establish a fascist dictatorship. It's why they support him.
Winehole23
10-21-2024, 10:12 AM
Florida edition:
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https://x.com/mjs_DC/status/1848375364831052220
Winehole23
10-21-2024, 10:12 AM
lolSnacks with nothing to say, as usual
Blake
10-21-2024, 10:58 AM
That's simply not true, they very much do care that he's trying to establish a fascist dictatorship. It's why they support him.
I truly believe that the average Trumptard doesn't know what fascism means and thinks voting for him is doing their patriotic, democratic, biblical, lib pwning duty. Anecdotally, I know a few of these people. Fox News et al has completely brainwashed them into thinking Biden and Harris are the fascists.
I mean, I think I can find posts on this board that say the same if I looked.
Blake
10-21-2024, 11:03 AM
“They’re Marxists and communists and fascists, and they’re sick,” Trump added. “We have China, we have Russia, we have all these countries. If you have a smart president, they can all be handled. The more difficult are, you know, the Pelosis, these people, they’re so sick and they’re so evil,” Trump said.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/trump-democrats-enemies-within-rcna175628
They believe him and chant along.
SnakeBoy
10-21-2024, 02:07 PM
Modern day Hitler. Say goodbye to Murica :cry
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GaXgPqfWkAAUqLt?format=jpg&name=medium
ChumpDumper
10-21-2024, 02:15 PM
:lmao couldn't even wash his hands
Blake
10-21-2024, 02:16 PM
Modern day Hitler. Say goodbye to Murica :cry
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GaXgPqfWkAAUqLt?format=jpg&name=medium
McHitler
Ef-man
10-21-2024, 02:23 PM
:lmao couldn't even wash his hands
“They’re eating the dogs, woof, woof, woof, woof; they’re eating the cats, meow, meow, meow, meow; but not eating the hepatitis and feces filled fries I make here!”
Winehole23
10-21-2024, 03:42 PM
terroristic threats are not the functional equivalent of constructive criticism
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https://x.com/IanSams/status/1848413518711734330
Winehole23
10-21-2024, 03:44 PM
Trump keeps talking about using state power to silence unfavorable coverage
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https://x.com/atrupar/status/1848449699339968995
terroristic threats are not the functional equivalent of constructive criticism
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https://x.com/IanSams/status/1848413518711734330
Did you actually listen to the question asked of Trump or did you just blindly repost a tweet from the Harris campaign spokesman Ian Sams like ChumpDumper does?
https://x.com/TheSouthGAJohn/status/1848415299948974539
Winehole23
10-21-2024, 04:16 PM
It's not my fault you can't understand what Trump said
It's not my fault you can't understand what Trump said
:lol you did just blindly repost a tweet from the Harris campaign spokesman without actually listening to what the reporter actually asked.
Winehole23
10-21-2024, 04:21 PM
:lol you did just blindly repost a tweet from the Harris campaign spokesman without actually listening to what the reporter actually asked.I listened to the whole thing, including Trump's response.
You're just being dense.
I listened to the whole thing, including Trump's response.
You're just being dense.
Q. Is it helping recovery efforts to claim FEMA is not doing their job?
A. “I think you have to let people know how they’re doing. If they’re not doing, if they’re doing a poor job, we’re supposed to not say it?
“By doing that, they’ll do a better job next time"
Stop blindly reposting tweets from the Harris campaign spokesman.
ChumpDumper
10-21-2024, 04:26 PM
Q. Is it helping recovery efforts to claim FEMA is not doing their job?
A. “I think you have to let people know how they’re doing. If they’re not doing, if they’re doing a poor job, we’re supposed to not say it?
“By doing that, they’ll do a better job next time"
Stop blindly reposting tweets from the Harris campaign spokesman.
Is Trump claiming FEMA is not doing their job?
Winehole23
10-21-2024, 04:29 PM
not really anything to say to a poster who ignores the plain meaning of what their guy is saying
baseline bum
10-21-2024, 04:46 PM
Modern day Hitler. Say goodbye to Murica :cry
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GaXgPqfWkAAUqLt?format=jpg&name=medium
LOL silver spoon faggot cosplaying as a wage slave
Winehole23
10-21-2024, 05:09 PM
Let's be honest, none of your team cares as long as the libs get pwnedI can't remember who it was, but someone has described Trump as a philosopher of "hey, fuck you!"
Trump is nothing if not cheaply cynical and crassly self-gratifying, funny how those two go together.
Ef-man
10-21-2024, 05:26 PM
Did someone say crassly self-gratifying?
https://x.com/kelsientaggart/status/1848397565600919866
Blake
10-21-2024, 05:27 PM
:lol you did just blindly repost a tweet from the Harris campaign spokesman without actually listening to what the reporter actually asked.
Lol that's rich
Blake
10-21-2024, 05:29 PM
I can't remember who it was, but someone has described Trump as a philosopher of "hey, fuck you!"
Trump is nothing if not cheaply cynical and crassly self-gratifying, funny how those two go together.
Yeah but he's got a Bible though. A BIBLE!!
koriwhat
10-21-2024, 06:44 PM
LMFAO
No longer crypto-, Trump's the dictionary definition.
Saletan lays it out point by point.
Let’s Be Honest, Trump’s Running As a Fascist (https://www.thebulwark.com/p/lets-be-honest-trumps-running-as)
Three days after Trump announced he was running again. Tell me again who's actually trying to imprison their opposition leaders.
https://x.com/willscharf/status/1848545061887226154
ChumpDumper
10-22-2024, 11:47 AM
Three days after Trump announced he was running again. Tell me again who's actually trying to imprison their opposition leaders.
https://x.com/willscharf/status/1848545061887226154
Do you think Trump committed any of the crimes for which he has been indicted?
Blake
10-22-2024, 02:13 PM
Three days after Trump announced he was running again. Tell me again who's actually trying to imprison their opposition leaders.
https://x.com/willscharf/status/1848545061887226154
Lol just like polls, the conspiracies are only worth looking at when it's your team, right?
Ef-man
10-22-2024, 02:18 PM
Lol just like polls, the conspiracies are only worth looking at when it's your team, right?
Not real unless it was a "Q" drop, just saying
Lol just like polls, the conspiracies are only worth looking at when it's your team, right?
Biden is in office, not Trump. What other administration should we be looking at that is trying to imprison their opposition leaders?
ChumpDumper
10-22-2024, 02:24 PM
Biden is in office, not Trump. What other administration should we be looking at that is trying to imprison their opposition leaders?
Do you think Trump committed any of the crimes for which he has been indicted?
Do you think Trump committed any of the crimes for which he has been indicted?
I've already answered that you why do you keep asking the same question over and over. Yes I think Trump committed some of the misdemeanor business fraud crimes that Bragg elevated to felonies. The classified documents and election interference cases are both bullshit. None of these cases would have been brought if Trump decided not to run. Only one administration is trying to imprison the opposition leader.
spurraider21
10-22-2024, 04:15 PM
I've already answered that you why do you keep asking the same question over and over. Yes I think Trump committed some of the misdemeanor business fraud crimes that Bragg elevated to felonies. The classified documents and election interference cases are both bullshit. None of these cases would have been brought if Trump decided not to run. Only one administration is trying to imprison the opposition leader.
do you think he did what he is alleged of doing in that case? im not asking why the case was brought
ChumpDumper
10-22-2024, 04:30 PM
I've already answered that you why do you keep asking the same question over and over. Yes I think Trump committed some of the misdemeanor business fraud crimes that Bragg elevated to felonies. The classified documents and election interference cases are both bullshit. None of these cases would have been brought if Trump decided not to run. Only one administration is trying to imprison the opposition leader.You were in favor of Trump's doing the same when he was in office.
You.
Blake
10-22-2024, 04:47 PM
Biden is in office, not Trump. What other administration should we be looking at that is trying to imprison their opposition leaders?
Trump wanted to imprison Hillary. And there's also that time that even though there was nothing there, you still tried to push pizzagate.
But now that there's ample evidence to bring cases to court against Trump, you're claiming conspiracy.
Ef-man
10-22-2024, 10:41 PM
“They’re eating the dogs, woof, woof, woof, woof; they’re eating the cats, meow, meow, meow, meow; but not eating the hepatitis and feces filled fries I make here!”
I stand corrected about people not eating meals he served...
Headlines: One dead in multistate E. coli outbreak tied to McDonald’s Quarter Pounders, CDC says
Winehole23
10-23-2024, 08:52 AM
Three days after Trump announced he was running again. Tell me again who's actually trying to imprison their opposition leaders.
https://x.com/willscharf/status/1848545061887226154Trying to throw out a valid election, stirring an attack on the US Congress, stealing US intelligence and faking business records have consequences that can't be ignored when grand juries indict.
The system is working.
:tu
Winehole23
10-23-2024, 09:45 AM
what happened to Matt Drudge?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gak3zPDXUAATAP0?format=png&name=900x900
velik_m
10-23-2024, 02:41 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qojyy60mUU
koriwhat
10-23-2024, 02:45 PM
LOL Fascist this and fascist that as your own commie admin tries to jail their main opponent in a presidential race. Yall regressives are some of the dumbest fucks around. :lmao
Thanos
10-23-2024, 02:49 PM
LOL Fascist this and fascist that as your own commie admin tries to jail their main opponent in a presidential race. Yall regressives are some of the dumbest fucks around. :lmao
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GagC4OiWgAAul_L?format=jpg&name=small
ChumpDumper
10-23-2024, 02:49 PM
:lol Joey with the defensive whataboutism
Donald Sterling.
10-23-2024, 03:22 PM
This is what libcuck desperation looks like.
When all else fails just throw the ol' "HE'S LITERALLY HITLER GUYZ" hail mary :lmao
This is what libcuck desperation looks like.
When all else fails just throw the ol' "HE'S LITERALLY HITLER GUYZ" hail mary :lmao
And to do it from behind the Vice Presidential shield. Embarrassingly desperate.
ChumpDumper
10-23-2024, 03:30 PM
I mean you guys can support an authoritarian Trump, but why pretend he's not authoritarian?
Blake
10-23-2024, 05:18 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GagC4OiWgAAul_L?format=jpg&name=small
On point :lol
SnakeBoy
10-23-2024, 06:46 PM
https://i.ibb.co/jggjkHx/20241023-173448.jpg
ChumpDumper
10-23-2024, 06:54 PM
:lol Trump literally (and hilariously) says he wants generals like Hitler had and ST Tards start spinning at 10000 RPM.
Blake
10-23-2024, 07:16 PM
https://i.ibb.co/jggjkHx/20241023-173448.jpg
^ wrong pic
> right pic
https://o.aolcdn.com/images/dims3/GLOB/crop/3386x2221+860+253/resize/1028x675!/format/jpg/quality/85/http://o.aolcdn.com/hss/storage/midas/f135cba8127c29f2554711b1ad9b9c52/0/president-donald-trump-takes-a-sip-of-water-while-speaking-on-his-picture-id894923944
Winehole23
10-24-2024, 12:41 PM
Trump treated the DOJ like personal law firm and sicced them on a number of people, it's weird that Trumpistas act like he wouldn't do that again, now that a compliant SCOTUS has conferred immunity on his official acts.
Trump treated the DOJ like personal law firm and sicced them on a number of people, it's weird that Trumpistas act like he wouldn't do that again, now that a compliant SCOTUS has conferred immunity on his official acts.
Nothing's changed! Everything's the same as 2016. We haven't spiraled towards autocracy and fascism at all. Harris = Trump, dude.
SnakeBoy
10-24-2024, 01:28 PM
Trump treated the DOJ like personal law firm and sicced them on a number of people, it's weird that Trumpistas act like he wouldn't do that again, now that a compliant SCOTUS has conferred immunity on his official acts.
He gets to sic Seal Team 6 on them now
Winehole23
10-24-2024, 01:47 PM
He gets to sic Seal Team 6 on them nowyou'd love that, eh?
koriwhat
10-24-2024, 02:35 PM
you'd love that, eh?
LOL you thinking you hold some sort of moral high ground when you're on the side of communists. Go fuck yourself bitch boy! :lol
Winehole23
10-24-2024, 04:14 PM
LOL you thinking you hold some sort of moral high ground when you're on the side of communists. Go fuck yourself bitch boy! :lolThere haven't been any high profile commies in the US since Gus Hall was running for president in the early 1980s.
Blake
10-24-2024, 04:15 PM
I've got him on ignore, someone ask tats what side his favorite guy Tim Pool is on.
Winehole23
10-24-2024, 04:20 PM
I've got him on ignore, someone ask tats what side his favorite guy Tim Pool is on.I took everyone off ignore a few months back.
Lol Tim Pool quitting his podcast to find a woman willing to sleep with him.
SnakeBoy
10-24-2024, 05:06 PM
I've got him on ignore, someone ask tats what side his favorite guy Tim Pool is on.
What's the point if you're gonna respond to every post he makes?
Winehole23
10-24-2024, 05:43 PM
Like, even Bernie Sanders doesn't qualify as a commie. He's a Euro-style social democrat, a socialist. That's really as far left as institutional leftism goes in the US. There's hardly any dedicated commies left.
baseline bum
10-24-2024, 06:09 PM
Like, even Bernie Sanders doesn't qualify as a commie. He's a Euro-style social democrat, a socialist. That's really as far left as institutional leftism goes in the US. There's hardly any dedicated commies left.
Sanders isn't a socialist. Social democrat and socialist are pretty far from each other. Social democrats are capitalists who want a safety net. Socialists want workers to seize the means of production away from capital, enormous difference between the two.
SnakeBoy
10-24-2024, 07:09 PM
Like, even Bernie Sanders doesn't qualify as a commie. He's a Euro-style social democrat, a socialist. That's really as far left as institutional leftism goes in the US. There's hardly any dedicated commies left.
Who are you talking to, the DNC?
Blake
10-24-2024, 07:15 PM
What's the point if you're gonna respond to every post he makes?
Even on ignore when someone quotes him they are visible. At least it helps filter 99% of the angry spazz stuff that's boring where there's no entertainment value in responding to.
SnakeBoy
10-24-2024, 07:15 PM
Bernie is just a self-serving role playing cuck. You can always spot real progressives with a spine (Kucinich, Tulsi, RFK) because they get kicked out of the party.
Blake
10-24-2024, 07:16 PM
Bernie is just a self-serving role playing cuck. You can always spot real progressives with a spine (Kucinich, Tulsi, RFK) because they get kicked out of the party.
Or they get kicked out because they're spineless
ChumpDumper
10-24-2024, 07:59 PM
Bernie is just a self-serving role playing cuck. You can always spot real progressives with a spine (Kucinich, Tulsi, RFK) because they get kicked out of the party.
They didn't get kicked out. lol more oppression fantasies.
Winehole23
10-24-2024, 09:46 PM
Sanders isn't a socialist. Social democrat and socialist are pretty far from each other. Social democrats are capitalists who want a safety net. Socialists want workers to seize the means of production away from capital, enormous difference between the two.Man, I appreciate the theoretical rigor. Let's talk about these things accurately rather than colloquially.
I think it's accurate to peg Bernie as SocDem rather than socialist, don't you agree?
Winehole23
10-24-2024, 09:47 PM
Who are you talking to, the DNC?Someone asked, please try to keep up.
Winehole23
10-24-2024, 10:14 PM
Bernie is just a self-serving role playing cuck. You can always spot real progressives with a spine (Kucinich, Tulsi, RFK) because they get kicked out of the party.Dude, the DNC/DCC screwed Bernie. I bet Bernie is still top five in the field, leaving out Kamala, is any other Dem up there?
Winehole23
10-24-2024, 10:23 PM
Bernie was and is a very popular politician.
Winehole23
10-24-2024, 10:26 PM
Basically, the function of the Democratic Party is to protect American politics from the left, and it does that very well, for better and for worse.
SnakeBoy
10-25-2024, 12:07 AM
Dude, the DNC/DCC screwed Bernie. I bet Bernie is still top five in the field, leaving out Kamala, is any other Dem up there?
Yeah they screwed him and he's still towing the line for them...that's the cuck part
FrostKing
10-25-2024, 03:32 AM
It probably would require a Fascist to clean up today's America.
koriwhat
10-25-2024, 02:03 PM
Dude, the DNC/DCC screwed Bernie. I bet Bernie is still top five in the field, leaving out Kamala, is any other Dem up there?
They didn't screw him because he's always lacked a backbone and predators can spot their weak prey, Bernie, from a mile away.
Dude's a little bitch and a champagne socialist millionaire. Hope he burns in hell with the rest of them.
Oh and on a side note, BlaKKKe, Tim Pool is going for Trump. Big shock right? I mean he did the same in 2020 so what exactly are you getting at?
Does anyone take anything a known cuckold has to say to be serious? It's as if he thinks anyone seriously gives a fuck what BlaKKKe has to say. We need less "men" like BlaKKKe in this world to raise healthy children. I feel sorry for his daughter having such a bitch of a father to deal with.
ChumpDumper
10-26-2024, 02:54 AM
Tim Pool:lol
Well, my anti-fascist vote has been cast. I did select the Green Party candidate for the RRC (IE the oil and gas industry board) as a protest vote because the RRC is nothing but a Republican mouthpiece for Big Oil anyway.
Winehole23
10-26-2024, 10:21 AM
maybe this time "the judges" will have what it takes, if it comes to that
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