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Seventyniner
10-21-2024, 09:38 PM
https://www.theringer.com/nba/2024/10/21/24273509/nba-season-preview-2024-trades-boston-celtics-luka-doncic


3. Victor Wembanyama will be the unanimous Defensive Player of the Year. This has never happened before. Neither has Wembanyama. If the over/under on career Defensive Player of the Year awards for him was 4.5—Rudy Gobert, Ben Wallace, and Dikembe Mutombo are tied for the most with four apiece—I would seriously consider taking the over. He’s the most intimidating and provocative defender alive, someone I thought would win as a rookie (and who eventually received my actual vote (https://www.theringer.com/nba/2024/4/11/24126870/nba-awards-2024-mvp-nikola-jokic-luka-doncic) before finishing as Gobert’s runner-up). Wemby protects the paint, blocks jumpers, and single-handedly turns fast-break chances into half-court slogs (https://www.youtube.com/shorts/YtIQy2JoEAQ). His impact is unparalleled.
(Related: I hope Bam Adebayo wins one during his prime. It’s nearly a cliché at this point, but no individual’s impact on one side of the ball is more casually taken for granted than everything Bam does on defense.)
Bonus Spurs-related predictions: Devin Vassell will win Most Improved Player, and San Antonio will win more games than the Lakers.



I can get behind this one, though the bonus is a bit much.


22. The Los Angeles Clippers will trade Kawhi Leonard....
Leonard to San Antonio for Keldon Johnson, Harrison Barnes, Stephon Castle, and Minnesota’s first-round pick in 2031.

Pardon the sentimental wishcasting, but this would be an incredible full-circle moment that’d make everyone—except teams that otherwise wouldn’t have to seriously worry about San Antonio for another few years—feel warm and fuzzy.

I understand all the ways this upturns the rich soil San Antonio was disciplined enough to put down even before it landed Wembanyama: its patient strategy to peak during its 20-year-old phenom’s prime. Yes. Got it. I agree and think it’s commendable. I also understand how cumbersome this trade could be if Leonard never again comes close to resembling the Terminator who obliterated everything in his path before he tore his ACL in the 2021 playoffs. But you know what would be even cooler than a slow and steady rebuild? Pairing Kawhi with Wembanyama and immediately becoming a championship contender that still has control of all its own draft capital and didn’t have to give up Devin Vassell.

There are probably some fences that need to be mended between Kawhi and his former team. Any reunion might be a bridge too far. But Gregg Popovich’s respect for Leonard was clear last year when he scolded Spurs fans (https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/38972722/spurs-gregg-popovich-no-regrets-chiding-fans-booing-leonard) for booing someone who won a Finals MVP in their favorite team’s jersey.

If you’re the Clippers, this is probably as good as it gets; they’re in need of an escape hatch, so one blue-chip prospect plus decent draft compensation isn’t going to solve all their problems—but to get started on whatever the next era will look like, it’s the best they can realistically ask for.



Oh hell naw.

I can see why Pina ended the article with this as the boldest prediction of them all, but there is no way the Spurs would take on three years of Number Two's contract when he can maybe give you 30 games a season at this point and the rest of the roster isn't ready to contend yet anyway. Let alone give up on Castle already.

playbonner15
10-21-2024, 10:41 PM
There's a bunch of other teams where Ringer says Clippers will deal with but I don't think teams want that drama plus including Castle and a pick in that trade is not a good move. Even Clipper fans know it. Not a good article

Mr. Body
10-21-2024, 10:56 PM
Vassell won't win MI. He already had a solid year last year and any improvement will be seen as a general team thing.

The Spurs could very well out-win the Lakers. I think the LAL are on the verge of sucking bad.

The Kawhi trade is a joke. Dude may never play again. I wouldn't trade Castle straight up for him, no way.

Allan Rowe vs Wade
10-21-2024, 11:43 PM
Lmao if the spurs take kawhi in a trade like that then I will personally pack pops things and deliver them to vegas

Uriel
10-21-2024, 11:45 PM
I would never do that trade, and neither, I suspect, would Wright.

spurs1990
10-22-2024, 12:03 AM
Leonard for free would be an easy pass for the Spurs FO. He’s utterly useless not to mention net negative for team morale

baseline bum
10-22-2024, 12:03 AM
Oh hell no I wouldn't trade Branham and Collins for Leonard much less give up the Spurs most exciting non-alien prospect in nearly 15 years plus the 20131. Even without all the drama from his scumbag uncle he's basically in the Walton on the Clippers phase of his career. No thanks for $150 million.

Russ
10-22-2024, 12:30 AM
Bonus Spurs-related predictions: Devin Vassell will win Most Improved Player, and San Antonio will win more games than the Lakers.

I just hope Vassell doesn't win Comeback Player of the Year -- next year.

Russ
10-22-2024, 12:45 AM
22. The Los Angeles Clippers will trade Kawhi Leonard.

...
Leonard to San Antonio for Keldon Johnson, Harrison Barnes, Stephon Castle, and Minnesota’s first-round pick in 2031.



The only way the Spurs should do this is if they include a trade of arenas.

heyheymymy
10-22-2024, 01:03 AM
not sure who typed that LAC deal but they should be banned from the internet for life

cutewizard
10-22-2024, 08:35 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWNwrREoXSs

Strategic
10-22-2024, 08:40 AM
Always nice to start the day off with a laugh.

cutewizard
10-22-2024, 08:49 AM
Very straightforward, transparent answers

Not arrogant, considering his status in the sports world...

A good role model

cutewizard
10-22-2024, 08:49 AM
Now, we only need the lucky stars to align in Atlantaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa


and then, boom!

CGD
10-22-2024, 09:08 AM
Swap Branham for Castle and i consider it next summer if Kawahi can show he can even get on the court again.

LeBowen
10-22-2024, 09:42 AM
Swap Branham for Castle and i consider it next summer if Kawahi can show he can even get on the court again.

I know people might've lost track of his age because he's barely played over the past years, but he turned 33 in June.
He's a negative contract at this point. $50 million a year up until 2027.

exstatic
10-22-2024, 09:45 AM
I know people might've lost track of his age because he's barely played over the past years, but he turned 33 in June.
He's a negative contract at this point. $50 million a year up until 2027.

Exactly. I wouldn’t take him for a 56-60 protected SRP. His contract is toxic.

cutewizard
10-22-2024, 10:41 AM
Lets driveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Spurs!!!!!

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Dex
10-22-2024, 10:48 AM
That Leonard trade may be one of the stupidest proposals I've ever seen.

"Hey San Antonio, trade one of your best prospects and a bunch of trade assets to bring back a broken-down player on an albatross contract who fucked over your team and your fan base hates!"

That's not even a BOLD take...that's just a shitty, click-bait fever dream.

Leetonidas
10-22-2024, 11:29 AM
Lmao. Absolutely ZERO chance that Leonard is traded back here

objective
10-22-2024, 11:53 AM
.But Gregg Popovich’s respect for Leonard was clear last year when he scolded Spurs fans for booing someone who won a Finals MVP in their favorite team’s jersey.

And that's why it's not a farfetched idea.

Good idea? No. But Pop pushing it through? I can see it

exstatic
10-22-2024, 12:17 PM
And that's why it's not a farfetched idea.

Good idea? No. But Pop pushing it through? I can see it

No. Personal is personal, and business is business. What Pop did was personal. Foolish but personal. Trading for him would be bad business. The Holts give Pop a pretty long leash, but not that long. The decision to take on an awful contract like that for a player who can’t finish the regular season, or go deeper than the second round would have to be made by the managing partner, young Peter Holt. He wouldn’t go for it.

z0sa
10-22-2024, 12:18 PM
I like to believe even Pop is above getting Kawhi back, but I'm not holding my breath by any means.

rjv
10-22-2024, 12:33 PM
i think by the time they got to #22, they had smoked all the weed and drank all the beer.

scott
10-22-2024, 03:37 PM
I might be one of maybe half a dozen Spurs fans alive who would have loved to see Nephew come back and mend fences… but lol this must be a joke. Dude is completely broken and LAC is definitely stuck with him. Dumping Kawhi at this point would probably be most costly that the theoretical cost of dumping Lavine or Simmons was at the worst point of those horrible contracts.

Mal
10-22-2024, 04:28 PM
I will stop being Spurs fan if nephew comesback

Phenomanul
10-23-2024, 05:56 AM
People forget Kawhi Leonard was completely expunged from both Ginobili's and Parker's HOF videos... IT was a deliberate act by the organization. HE's not coming back.

spursparker9
10-23-2024, 08:03 AM
Fuck Nephew tbh.

jjspur
10-23-2024, 08:32 AM
I've seen Pop and the front office do some things the last few years that don't make a lot of sense, but trading for the broken shell of Leonard is beyond the stupidity of even this franchise. Leonard's championship window has passed him by. He should just retire and start his own chain of car washes or invest in Klawburger or something.

LeBowen
10-23-2024, 08:36 AM
If we're talking outrageous trades, Giannis once again repeated how he's not sure about his future if they have another disappointing year this season.
If he actually requests a trade, Spurs and OKC would be the most logical destinations and the only teams that would be able to pay the asking price.

John B
10-23-2024, 08:47 AM
It would eventually come down to the Clips giving up assets just to trade Kawhi and his enormous contract.

Ice009
10-23-2024, 08:52 AM
I actually was another one that wouldn't have minded him coming back as a free agent or something at a reasonable contract to mend fences like Scott said, but that was a year or two ago when he still looked like he may be able to come back at a decent level, and also before signing his current contract. No way I'd ever trade for him, though, (unless he was 100% healthy) which doesn't ever look likely. I would NEVER include Stephon in a trade package for him at his current contact. That's some serious smoking something you shouldn't be smoking shit.

Edit : I much prefer Lebowen's idea that if Giannis wanted out, I'd 99.9% rather try and trade for him instead.

exstatic
10-23-2024, 09:28 AM
It would eventually come down to the Clips giving up assets just to trade Kawhi and his enormous contract.

They have none. They’re still paying on the Paul George deal, and he’s already left. LOL

cd98
10-23-2024, 10:27 AM
https://www.theringer.com/nba/2024/10/21/24273509/nba-season-preview-2024-trades-boston-celtics-luka-doncic



I can get behind this one, though the bonus is a bit much.



Oh hell naw.

I can see why Pina ended the article with this as the boldest prediction of them all, but there is no way the Spurs would take on three years of Number Two's contract when he can maybe give you 30 games a season at this point and the rest of the roster isn't ready to contend yet anyway. Let alone give up on Castle already.

Hey it would be just like the last time he was here. He’d get paid big bucks to never play bc of an injury.

Dex
10-23-2024, 08:57 PM
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Maybe we should include Wemby too just to bring this guy back to San Antonio...:rolleyes

Seventyniner
10-24-2024, 08:42 AM
I wonder if Ballmer would waive-and-stretch Number Two next summer if he doesn't play at all this year. That would reduce his cap hit to 20M over the following 5 years rather than 50M for the following two, giving them a path to improve the team because their draft pick cupboard is so bare. Ballmer has been impetuous and stupid in the past so there is precedent.

ambchang
10-24-2024, 05:44 PM
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/41984045/ex-clippers-staffer-sues-says-was-fired-kawhi-concerns

Can’t make this up. :lol