Customer gets ticket for test driving vehicle without dealer tags/ license plate

[Blake]

"When Daniel Rocha walked into his local car dealership earlier this month, he never expected to get swept up in a legal battle.

The Prosper, Texas, resident was simply looking for a replacement vehicle following the recent death of his son in a car accident. Instead, the already grief-stricken Rocha found himself in the midst of a feud between the police department and the Longo Toyota of Proper dealership.

Moments after taking a truck out for a test drive, Rocha was pulled over by an officer and given a citation for "operating a vehicle without license plates."

"He said this has been ongoing with these dealers," Rocha told WFAA-TV.

Rocha added that the officer then told him: "'In order for us to make [the dealerships] abide, we're going to start citing the customers.’” He was then handed a $250 ticket.

But is it fair for innocent customers to get caught in the crosshairs of an ongoing issue between police and dealerships?....."

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/texas-man-pulled-over-while-111700693.html

[MultiTroll]

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I'm 11-1
The one L i was able to school it off.

[Blake]

You've been pulled over that many times? I've been pulled over for speeding maybe 5 times in my life, 3 of those being before the age of 25, and was able to do DD for all of them without needing a lawyer

[z0sa]

That's some bullshit. That said, 11-1 dude Multitroll/Fabbs? Why you speeding all the time? You must be the guy who's angrily tailgating people going 45 in a 35.

[baseline bum]

LOL getting 12 speeding tickets. I can understand the occasional oh shit forgot I was in the school zone infraction but JFC that's a lot of tickets.

[ChumpDumper]

LOL getting 12 speeding tickets. I can understand the occasional oh shit forgot I was in the school zone infraction but JFC that's a lot of tickets.

I get the impression MultiFlabbs is in school zones a lot.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

I get the impression MultiFlabbs is in school zones a lot.

Yup. He's the incel variant of Avante... sick.

Still, on the topic of the OP, this is bogus. I've test driven a ton. I know in California they will only let you test drive around the lot and on the private roads. Which realistically means you can only go 35-40 max and can't test the cruise control, but, it is what it is. The USA needs less government and less policing.

[Blake]

I get the impression MultiFlabbs is in school zones a lot.

:lol spit my water on that

[Mark Celibate]

I get the impression MultiFlabbs is in school zones a lot.

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[lefty20]

You've been pulled over that many times? I've been pulled over for speeding maybe 5 times in my life, 3 of those being before the age of 25, and was able to do DD for all of them without needing a lawyer

5? Those are rookie numbers. I once got pulled over 3 times on the same road trip from Illinois to NJ when I was 17.

Going 82 on 65 in Illinois

Going 78 on 70 in Indiana

Going 77 on 70 in Pennsylvania

I still maintain that the last 2 tickets were complete bullshit.

I'm prolly at around 12~ speeding tickets myself. Only 2 in the last 9 years though and both were via speeding cameras, all because I didn't wanna use Waze.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

5? Those are rookie numbers. I once got pulled over 3 times on the same road trip from Illinois to NJ when I was 17.

Going 82 on 65 in Illinois

Going 78 on 70 in Indiana

Going 77 on 70 in Pennsylvania

I still maintain that the last 2 tickets were complete bullshit.

I'm prolly at around 12~ speeding tickets myself. Only 2 in the last 9 years though and both were via speeding cameras, all because I didn't wanna use Waze.

those two should have been warnings and fightable without having to pay a lawyer or court fees. Indiana specifically has a reputation, but under 10 if you're not weaving like a maniac should never be a ticket.



that said, I never do more than 74 in Indiana except sometimes in da region on the 80/90/94 interstate east of Chicago which is basically the wild west where you have to sometimes go 80 just to not be clobbered by maniacs doing 90+. Most states I'll do 5-over and it's fine.


If I'm a non resident I'm not paying out of state tickets and just being extra careful if driving through said state again or avoid driving in said state again if necessary

[lefty20]

those two should have been warnings and fightable without having to pay a lawyer or court fees. Indiana specifically has a reputation, but under 10 if you're not weaving like a maniac should never be a ticket.



that said, I never do more than 74 in Indiana except sometimes in da region on the 80/90/94 interstate east of Chicago which is basically the wild west where you have to sometimes go 80 just to not be clobbered by maniacs doing 90+. Most states I'll do 5-over and it's fine.


If I'm a non resident I'm not paying out of state tickets and just being extra careful if driving through said state again or avoid driving in said state again if necessary

Eh not worth the hassle of fighting it when it's an out of state court/location.

I did that same route for 8 years every holidays (summer, spring-break & winter). Never had the kind of bullshit I got that day. I did end up getting a couple other tickets on the same route, but they were all for going 85~

As I said, I had to travel through there 6 times a year. With my lead foot, not paying was not a good option for me.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Eh not worth the hassle of fighting it when it's an out of state court/location.

I did that same route for 8 years every holidays (summer, spring-break & winter). Never had the kind of bullshit I got that day. I did end up getting a couple other tickets on the same route, but they were all for going 85~

As I said, I had to travel through there 6 times a year. With my lead foot, not paying was not a good option for me.
Yeah but just paying it is pleading guilty to a misdemeanor and also raises your insurance premiums for 5+ years depending on the insurance company

[Millennial_Messiah]

It's definitely bogus to get pulled over for speeding under 10 though

[Millennial_Messiah]

I've heard of this happen in California

[Millennial_Messiah]

Dealers ratting out test driving customers to cops for bounties. It happens.

[Millennial_Messiah]

I will say though. I haven't gotten pulled over even once in my main car since I put on that "blue lives matter" bumper sticker in Summer 2022. And before that I was pulled over a bunch in 2020 and even a couple times in spring 2022.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

El Monte California

[Millennial_Messiah]

Last day of the Month is very notorious for pullovers & tickets

[Millennial_Messiah]

The thing is, you probably would have sold that 250K of bitcoin before it even got anywhere near even double the value, and you wouldn't have been wrong to do so.

A lot of people (myself included) look back and wonder, but I know if I'd have bought the $1,000 of BTC I considered buying when brands started jumping on the bandwagon for PR (and when that one dude bought a pizza for 10K or whatever it was), I probably would have sold it before it even got to $10K in value, because at that point who's to say it's not going to all tank soon?

There's a reason there's only a handful of BTC billionaires.

Hodling is overrated though. You only live once and you're only young and healthy once.

[Millennial_Messiah]

8 year anniversary since my only ticket, it was a Texas FMFR in Feb. 2017 that I had deferred adjudicated, but literally it was bullshit because I was pulled over for "not putting my signal on 100 feet before the stop sign" which is bullshit because it's arbitrary, I did put my right turn signal on and it wasn't right at the stop sign. 100 feet is bullshit because speed limits change, it was a residential area with 30-35 mph speeds and it was right after another turn so there's barely even that much space between making one left turn to put on the right blinker.

[lefty20]

Where you are most likely to get a speeding ticket in the US.

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[Millennial_Messiah]

Where you are most likely to get a speeding ticket in the US.

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That's funny 'cause I routinely went 60mph on that 35 bridge when going to Cedar Point, Sandusky, Ohio, which is right in the center of that deeply shaded bulls-eye near Cleveland. And never got pulled over.

That said, was pulled over in Sandusky in 2022 twice, but not for speeding, one for making a wrong left turn onto the highway (no traffic) at like 4am one hot humid sticky night (I didn't get a ticket and I did get laid later that day/evening so it was all good) and then one for camping on the grass instead of the parking lot at the Meijer there off Milan street just to get some shut-eye without lights in my eyes... they just asked me to move, so it was all good

Ohio is definitely a state I won't go more than 3-4 over the speed limit tops if I'm alone or the lead car.

But this map sucks because the entire state of Nebraska should be shaded at least medium density blue. South Carolina is also extremely notorious for heavy highway patrol, and I've seen them everywhere driving up I-85 through there near Greenville. As for Nebraska, they love to pull over out of staters, if nothing else just to check for weed. Been pulled over a shit ton there, no tickets, though was close to one, argued my way out of one due to bad signage. Also, Indiana is much worse than anything in Chicago or Illinois in general. Illinois is actually pretty laissez faire on speeding, especially the closer you get to Chicago. Indiana on the other hand... 5MPH+ over or changing lanes too quickly between Gary and Michigan City, and, it's a pull over. Not necessarily a ticket though. But they ticket big box trucks in Indiana like crazy. The south in general especially Georgia is notorious too. I've had pull-overs in Georgia and Arkansas, but again not for speeding. Florida..... not so much. You can do 10-15MPH over easily and never get pulled over. The bar is set so high there that pretty much you have to go 100mph+ to get pulled over there. California it's similar but different, they have problems with racing motorcycles and they're another state that has strict truck speed laws (55MPH for trucks, 70mph for passenger vehicles) so they like to pull over trucks hard.

Definitely wouldn't mess with the NJ Turnpike and turnpikes/tollroads in general are heavily patrolled. The theory being, if you can afford the toll, you can afford the ticket. But seriously a bullseye in Chicago? What a load of crap. You can easily do 100+ in the far left lane on the full Dan Ryan Expressway (done many times, and if you don't you get honked at and possibly shot at if you're south of the loop) and nobody cares except the speeder behind you, the cops have way bigger fish to fry down there.

South Dakota I've never seen a single police car on the highway

[Millennial_Messiah]

Does California really have that many pullovers though? baseline bum spurraider21 ElNono people who have lived/spent mass time in Cali not just visited

[Blake]

Does California really have that many pullovers though? baseline bum spurraider21 ElNono people who have lived/spent mass time in Cali not just visited

My guess is probably like any other state, many small towns like to use traffic tickets as a form of revenue

[ElNono]

Does California really have that many pullovers though? baseline bum spurraider21 ElNono people who have lived/spent mass time in Cali not just visited

Never been pulled over in 5+ years. Only once in NJ in 20 years due to a broken rear light, which was just a warning.

I generally never go over 5 mph over the speed limit, especially in the city. Highways are a different story because everyone drives like a maniac, tbh.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Never been pulled over in 5+ years. Only once in NJ in 20 years due to a broken rear light, which was just a warning.

I generally never go over 5 mph over the speed limit, especially in the city. Highways are a different story because everyone drives like a maniac, tbh.

though if you are all alone on a highway in the country, especially at night, it's also not a good idea to go too far over the limit

[ElNono]

though if you are all alone on a highway in the country, especially at night, it's also not a good idea to go too far over the limit

The exception probably being West Texas, where you want to get the fuck out of there ASAP.

I try not to drive at night, tbh... especially long hauls.

[ElNono]

What's stupid on the OP is why the truck didn't have dealer tags? Never seen a dealer not have tags on their cars, especially for test drives.

[spurraider21]

last time i was pulled over was in 2019 in virginia. was driving back from washington DC after picking up my in-laws from the airport early morning (~90 minute drive each way). was one of those patches of highway that runs through a town and the speed limit drops, and i didnt notice it. got a speeding ticket, did the online class thingy and got the point off my record

traffic enforcement here in vegas is abysmal. running red lights is an epidemic here. that and people driving with expired tags or no tags at all. its wild

[Millennial_Messiah]

last time i was pulled over was in 2019 in virginia. was driving back from washington DC after picking up my in-laws from the airport early morning (~90 minute drive each way). was one of those patches of highway that runs through a town and the speed limit drops, and i didnt notice it. got a speeding ticket, did the online class thingy and got the point off my record

traffic enforcement here in vegas is abysmal. running red lights is an epidemic here. that and people driving with expired tags or no tags at all. its wild

on I-95? I don't think that's possible....... they only enforce the state speed limit there. I've driven like 95 in 55's on the interstate through big cities and never worried about getting pulled over. Off the interstate.... different deal, I got a ticket in 2022 in the mail from Chicago for allegedly driving 28 in a 20 mph zone through a city park area (never paid it lol, those mail tickets don't really add shit to your record and they're too small to be pursued, just like the red light tickets in the mail). Whereas, in the same city of Chicago, you can easily do 115 on the Dan Ryan in the left lane (you do less in the left lane and you get honked at possibly shot at)..... no problemo.

If you're talking about a country road (not interstate) that actually runs THROUGH a town, not bypasses over it, then yeah, those are the ones that get ya. Argued my way out of a ticket on Oct. 17, 2020 in the wee hours for going 60 in a 50mph speed trap through a small town at night and I was hella tired (but not drunk). The town didn't even have stop lights or hardly any civilization and I missed the speed sign that lasted about a quarter mile. I did get a ride shotgun in the cop car, cop car was cool and we bonded over talking about how the Covid restrictions were stupid and hoping Trump beats Biden. It was in rural central Nebraska driving down US-81 a little south of Norfolk, NE.

[Millennial_Messiah]

The exception probably being West Texas, where you want to get the fuck out of there ASAP.

I try not to drive at night, tbh... especially long hauls.
Agree, West Texas is one of the worst drives, the only good thing about it is when it's over. Regardless of whether you're coming from Colorado or from El Paso, that whole part of the state is dry, dusty, cheerless, and monotone. There's a lot of places in that area where you reasonably can do 100+ on a 75 on the back roads (there aren't really a ton of little towns out that way to get ya on the speed trap) though personally I wouldn't go over 82 on I-10 unless that's the speed of the rest of traffic (but there hardly is much traffic on I-10 too far west of SA, more deer than cars honestly).

[Millennial_Messiah]

It's really the deer that you've got to watch out for driving on I-10 and other rural roads at night. Junction area has a specifically bad deer infestation problem. One time in October 2017 when my mom and grandma and I were driving to Colorado we headed out at night and at the gas station a whole herd of deer stood in the middle of the street getting gas at the Shell near that croaky old bridge there in Junction.

[Millennial_Messiah]

What's stupid on the OP is why the truck didn't have dealer tags? Never seen a dealer not have tags on their cars, especially for test drives.

Depends on the state, when I was in California test driving a car a few months ago it had a regular CA license plate, no "dealer". But yes I've seen those Texas "Dealer" or "Exempt" license plates.

[ElNono]

Agree, West Texas is one of the worst drives, the only good thing about it is when it's over. Regardless of whether you're coming from Colorado or from El Paso, that whole part of the state is dry, dusty, cheerless, and monotone. There's a lot of places in that area where you reasonably can do 100+ on a 75 on the back roads (there aren't really a ton of little towns out that way to get ya on the speed trap) though personally I wouldn't go over 82 on I-10 unless that's the speed of the rest of traffic (but there hardly is much traffic on I-10 too far west of SA, more deer than cars honestly).

Isn't the speed limit like 85 mph there? It's like they want you to get the fuck out because if your car breaks down, you're SOL.