View Full Version : Game Thread: Spurs (3-3) @ Clippers (2-4) Monday Nov. 4, 2024 9:30PM CT 5:30AM RIGA
CorrectCrusader
11-05-2024, 12:29 AM
This is about the worst 22 point, 10 rebound, 9 block game I have ever seen out of a player.
Respectfully, you're a fucking moron
Strategic
11-05-2024, 12:29 AM
Clipper fans flexing when their team never achieves shit lol They hang selfies
baseline bum
11-05-2024, 12:29 AM
Respectfully, you're a fucking moron
It's no accident Victor is -21 tonight and can't blame it on anyone else
timtonymanu
11-05-2024, 12:29 AM
STFU Keldon. Lead by example you dumb fuck.
The funny thing is when sniffer Spurs fans say he needs to be kept around, it’s not because of his basketball skills. It’s because he’s been here the longest. Total scrub forreal.
slick'81
11-05-2024, 12:30 AM
Rockets again?!
Duncan2177
11-05-2024, 12:30 AM
unable to defend the 3 is a joke
That's just bad coaching.
CorrectCrusader
11-05-2024, 12:30 AM
It's no accident Victor is -21 tonight and can't blame it on anyone else
Didja turn the game on 5 minutes ago? Would explain this moronic take.
Kawhi Duncan
11-05-2024, 12:30 AM
Once again we played good defense... Absolutely shitty offense because we have no system
Pauleta14
11-05-2024, 12:30 AM
Clippers are shooting way too good, frustrating
When you have a 26pts lead there's no excuse
We just don't know how to defend the 3 and it got them going
NASpurs
11-05-2024, 12:31 AM
It's no accident Victor is -21 tonight and can't blame it on anyone else
I agree. It wasn't impressive and kind of half-assed. Weird game from Wemby.
CorrectCrusader
11-05-2024, 12:31 AM
Lmao nah. Unfucking real
timtonymanu
11-05-2024, 12:32 AM
Nah I’m with bum. Wemby was A+ on defense, F on offense. He needs to stop being a pussy in the paint.
slick'81
11-05-2024, 12:32 AM
LFG comeon
CorrectCrusader
11-05-2024, 12:34 AM
I agree. It wasn't impressive and kind of half-assed. Weird game from Wemby.
Did you morons watch the same game
NASpurs
11-05-2024, 12:34 AM
Did you morons watch the same game
Calm down faggot.
Death In June
11-05-2024, 12:35 AM
Most frustrating game of the season, easily.
Floyd Pacquiao
11-05-2024, 12:35 AM
Wembanyama is soft as fucking charmin right now. He cost the spurs tonight with his passivity in the post and his inability to take advantage of guards switching on to him.
timtonymanu
11-05-2024, 12:35 AM
Did you morons watch the same game
Then care to explain why we’re wrong, you’re just saying a bunch of nothing.
onechance87
11-05-2024, 12:35 AM
Embarrassing loss
CorrectCrusader
11-05-2024, 12:35 AM
Lol like what the fuck is that. Completely unstructured in the 4th. Retarded ass team shit its pants
slick'81
11-05-2024, 12:36 AM
Wembanyama is soft as fucking charmin right now. He cost the spurs tonight with his passivity in the post and his inability to take advantage of guards switching on to him.
Get ready for 6'5 brooks :rollin
TDomination
11-05-2024, 12:36 AM
I knew that huge lead in the 1st quarter was just a disaster waiting to happen
they looked so good and clippers looked so awful. Ugh sucks
Pauleta14
11-05-2024, 12:36 AM
Stupid loss
slick'81
11-05-2024, 12:36 AM
Disheartening L
timtonymanu
11-05-2024, 12:36 AM
Yeah keep your heads down. That was embarrassing
When is Wemby going to punish 6'4 guards in the paint? It's gotten pretty shameful, tbh. He was amazing on defense but we just got cooked because he can't buy a bucket unless his outside shot is stroking or he's getting spoonfed around the rim. It's a good game for most players but Wemby could've done so much better.
sananspursfan21
11-05-2024, 12:37 AM
What did Wemby really do out there tonight? I’m starting to get a little concerned. 7 games in and it’s pretty much the same thing every night
Frenchfred
11-05-2024, 12:37 AM
Wembanyama is soft as fucking charmin right now. He cost the spurs tonight with his passivity in the post and his inability to take advantage of guards switching on to him.
I agree. Not able to beat 270 pounds guys down low, okay I understand but not able to beat guards a foot smaller than him, that's hard.
NASpurs
11-05-2024, 12:37 AM
Wembanyama is soft as fucking charmin right now. He cost the spurs tonight with his passivity in the post and his inability to take advantage of guards switching on to him.
Did you morons watch the game :madrun
100%duncan
11-05-2024, 12:37 AM
We had a stretch early in the 4th when we were still up 4 and Wemby had like 3-4 good consecutive defensive possessions (blocks, deflections, steals, etc) but failed to convert anything on the fastbreaks including errors from CP3.
rankingtear
11-05-2024, 12:37 AM
I think teams have figured out that you can even put a guard on Wemby and he can't really punish them in the post.
TimmyBuckets
11-05-2024, 12:38 AM
Wemby' offense is utter trash now. Timmy needs to teach him how to play on the inside. He wants to play like a bigger KD? Then learn to shoot. Terrible offensive game for him. Amazing defense but god awful offense. That's why we're top 3 in defense and bottom 3 in offense. He needs to evolve and fast.
baseline bum
11-05-2024, 12:38 AM
Didja turn the game on 5 minutes ago? Would explain this moronic take.
I'm wondering if you just did. Victor has been refusing to attack in the post even with Harden switched onto him. Dude's offensive rating is 102 this season, he is in an enormous sophomore slump and has been playing like an ass offensively this season.
LeBowen
11-05-2024, 12:38 AM
16 offensive rebounds for the Clippers, at least half because of Spurs half-assing it and leaking out early.
Wemby's Antoine Walker 2.0 arc needs to stop.
Barnes got frozen out of the game by his teammates.
Keldon's defense is back to putrid.
CP3 is too old for heavy minutes.
Collins needs to have a season-ending injury if we're to actually win some games.
This team is so strange. You've got centers guarding guards on our team and not being punished, and guards guarding our center and not being punished, either. For the umpteenth time, where the fuck is the coaching??
That's just bad coaching.
Nah, Keldon and Malaki are who they are. Many of those breakdowns came on their watch.
Fireball
11-05-2024, 12:39 AM
so far we only beat the Jazz and two teams that were on a b2b ...
hope Sochan's thumb is not too badly injured
skin27
11-05-2024, 12:39 AM
Stupid loss
murpjf88
11-05-2024, 12:40 AM
Wemby with the +/- -21 bads. Dude is out there stat padding.
CorrectCrusader
11-05-2024, 12:40 AM
Knew this game was over when CP shit his pants when Wemby was wide open in the paint early in the 4th. He just choked, and the entire offense suffered because of it. Got no good looks the entire 4th quarter and the defense by Keldon and the rest of these scrubs was fucking trash.
You can't win games when you have huge leads in the 3rd and the backup big comes in and it just disappears. Can't wait till that useless fuck Zollins is gone. Ty Lue out coached our guy by staggering the 2nd and 3rd qtr minutes so Zubac faced Zollins and not Wemby.
Pauleta14
11-05-2024, 12:41 AM
What did Wemby really do out there tonight? I’m starting to get a little concerned. 7 games in and it’s pretty much the same thing every night
It's as if last season didn't happen.
On offense he looks like a rookie
100%duncan
11-05-2024, 12:42 AM
Wasted Castle's "breakout" game on the offense tbh. Not having Sochan really hurt the 2nd unit as he would usually be the only starter playing with them.
CorrectCrusader
11-05-2024, 12:42 AM
I'm wondering if you just did. Victor has been refusing to attack in the post even with Harden switched onto him. Dude's offensive rating is 102 this season, he is in an enormous sophomore slump and has been playing like an ass offensively this season.
The offense is virtually the same as last year. Wemby still can't put the ball on the floor against guards and isn't big enough to back the beefy ones down yet.
Everywhere else on offense he's a presence, and that wasn't different tonight.
Not to mention the god tier defense, but boohoo the big shot 10 threes I'm gonna shit my pants? Fucking old bastards go join pop in the nursing home
TDomination
11-05-2024, 12:42 AM
This is why an established go to move in the post is so critical for Wemby.
when shots aren’t falling, when the team is bleeding and you just need something, you go to the move.
for Timmy it was 4 down, for Manu it was hold the ball like a football and attack the paint, for Parker it was the floater.
there was 100 mismatches in the low post on Wemby throughout the game and yet he only took advantage like 2 or 3 times. That needs to change.
no matter how special he wants to be from the perimeter, you can’t have a step back 3 pointer be your go to move when the game is on the line or when the team is in a desperate need of points
AusSpur
11-05-2024, 12:43 AM
Our 3pt defence is the the biggest issue - letting the Clippers shoot 19 of 37 is disgusting
Atl Spur
11-05-2024, 12:43 AM
Buddy is pulling an early on Dirk ( letting smalls guard him ); time to use that footwork and size in the post. Wemby has to choose better shots, way to many threes.
LeBowen
11-05-2024, 12:43 AM
Did you morons watch the game :madrun
Unbelievable stuff.
Wemby's defense was ridiculous, he was everywhere.
His offense was trash, but that's where others should've come in.
If your center has 12 stocks and 22/13, the loss can't be just on him.
Branham and Collins aren't NBA players.
Keldon is not far off it.
baseline bum
11-05-2024, 12:43 AM
I think teams have figured out that you can even put a guard on Wemby and he can't really punish them in the post.
Except he did last year starting January or so. Now he's regressed back to jacking up threes thinking he's Kevin Durant. Unless he's hurt I don't get it at all. A 102.7 offensive rating is horrendous.
sananspursfan21
11-05-2024, 12:43 AM
Really missed Sochan tonight. It’s not all on his absence by any means, but that didn’t help the cause
100%duncan
11-05-2024, 12:44 AM
It's as if last season didn't happen.
On offense he looks like a rookie
It's frustrating because he has moments where he decides quickly (turnaround jumper, turnaround into baby hook) but then you get a lot of dribble dribble into turnovers in the same game. Or the horrendous 3 pt shooting
Rosewood
11-05-2024, 12:44 AM
Clippers are one of the worst teams in the league. This game was really telling - coaching is awful and our players are soft and stupid.
objective
11-05-2024, 12:44 AM
Harden's post defense is one of the few things he's always done fairly well, he's strong as hell and can really plant his ass and use leverage.
His worst defensive lowlights are him falling asleep and losing his man or giving up at the perimeter point of attack
No surprise that Wemby would have problems there
Pauleta14
11-05-2024, 12:44 AM
Our 3pt defence is the the biggest issue - letting the Clippers shoot 19 of 37 is disgusting
It's been the case for so long I have zero hope with this coaching staff
TimmyBuckets
11-05-2024, 12:44 AM
He needs to work on his stability and develop a go-to move in the post. Then he needs to learn to shoot.
baseline bum
11-05-2024, 12:46 AM
The offense is virtually the same as last year. Wemby still can't put the ball on the floor against guards and isn't big enough to back the beefy ones down yet.
Everywhere else on offense he's a presence, and that wasn't different tonight.
Not to mention the god tier defense, but boohoo the big shot 10 threes I'm gonna shit my pants? Fucking old bastards go join pop in the nursing home
Funny you bitch about nursing home Pop when he's the one who has been allowing Victor to play this trash offensive game he has been reverting too. Frustrating seeing him not take advantage of James Harden on him and instead run out to the three point line to take garbage shots he cannot hit.
sananspursfan21
11-05-2024, 12:46 AM
Defenses gonna keep feasting on Wemby playing passively. I don’t care if he misses every shot in the post, start taking those smaller guys on
onechance87
11-05-2024, 12:47 AM
Our 3pt defence is the the biggest issue - letting the Clippers shoot 19 of 37 is disgusting
Yea same shit happend with few games ago.
baseline bum
11-05-2024, 12:47 AM
He needs to work on his stability and develop a go-to move in the post. Then he needs to learn to shoot.
He was good in the post last year. He needs to slow the fuck down and stop being in such a rush. Dude kept playing hot potato with the ball every time he got it down low. You either shoot over your man or you wait for the double so someone gets an open three.
Frenchfred
11-05-2024, 12:48 AM
It's as if last season didn't happen.
On offense he looks like a rookie
His offense actually looks worse than last year.
SpursFan86
11-05-2024, 12:48 AM
Think some people here are being a little harsh re: Wemby’s performance. No, he wasn’t as good as his raw counting stats would suggest but I also don’t think he was as bad as his -21 suggests.
He was pretty awful from a scoring standpoint but felt like he made plenty of great reads and passes to create for others (3 assists don’t do him justice in this department IMO). He also at least took care of the ball for the most part as opposed to some of those 4-5+ TO games we’ve seen from him.
Defensively he was unreal in terms of shutting down the paint. He was so good that it really feels like it backfired: LAC just stopped trying to get into the paint and started shooting (and making) 3s at a ridiculous clip.
So yeah…not arguing that he was incredible or anything but putting this whole loss on him or acting like he was garbage is sort of going too far the other way. Not disputing this start to the year has been brutal for him offensively though.
gambit1990
11-05-2024, 12:49 AM
this L is on wemby & the coaching.
wemby can have a mismatch and the defender can still prevent wemby from being in an opportune position.
100%duncan
11-05-2024, 12:49 AM
Our 3pt defence is the the biggest issue - letting the Clippers shoot 19 of 37 is disgusting
Which is why I cannot take the narrative that we have a top3-5 defense seriously. I haven't seen a game this season, let alone last season, where we didn't just give up 3pt shots and prayed for the best.
TimmyBuckets
11-05-2024, 12:50 AM
He was good in the post last year. He needs to slow the fuck down and stop being in such a rush. Dude kept playing hot potato with the ball every time he got it down low. You either shoot over your man or you wait for the double so someone gets an open three.
He needs to be a better decision maker for sure. I feel like he'll catch on pretty quick though after another 10-15 games. Not having Vassell is a big deal too because it opens up the floor more.
Pauleta14
11-05-2024, 12:52 AM
It's frustrating because he has moments where he decides quickly (turnaround jumper, turnaround into baby hook) but then you get a lot of dribble dribble into turnovers in the same game. Or the horrendous 3 pt shooting
It's hard to understand if he can't or refuses.
Putting him next to Brahman Champ and Keldon to start the 2nd might not have been the smartest thing either
It's on both sides, this roster doesn't help him and he's acting like a spoiled child on offense
LeBowen
11-05-2024, 12:52 AM
this L is on wemby & the coaching.
wemby can have a mismatch and the defender can still prevent wemby from being in an opportune position.
Yeah, let's just ignore that half the rotation aren't NBA players and pin it on the guy defending the entire team by himself.
Wemby's offense was trash, but if he has to carry the offense against these Clippers, then we're better off getting another high lottery pick.
TheBallsbreakers
11-05-2024, 12:53 AM
Without Wemby's defense this would have been 40-pt blowout loss.
WTF are you guys on blaming the loss on the kid.
His offense was not up to par but the defense more than made up for it.
Only 7 games in. Gotta love the cliff-jumping though. ST never ceases to entertain
100%duncan
11-05-2024, 12:54 AM
It's hard to understand if he can't or refuses.
Putting him next to Brahman Champ and Keldon to start the 2nd might not have been the smartest thing either
It's on both sides, this roster doesn't help him and he's acting like a spoiled child on offense
Hope he gets called out on it tbh. I see Wemby as a dude to respond positively to harsh criticism. The problem is he's San Antonio's golden boy albeit rightfully so.
Pauleta14
11-05-2024, 12:54 AM
His offense actually looks worse than last year.
Yep, in part imo bc of Paul who took away part of his playmaking and defenses who got the blue print on the physicality
He needs to be more "brave" on offense
murpjf88
11-05-2024, 12:56 AM
It's as if last season didn't happen.
On offense he looks like a rookie
Sure does. A rookie who's trying to do too much. His outside shooting is woeful, his handles are sub par, his vision/passing is terrible and his rebounding is lackluster given his size.
gambit1990
11-05-2024, 12:58 AM
Yeah, let's just ignore that half the rotation aren't NBA players and pin it on the guy defending the entire team by himself.
Wemby's offense was trash, but if he has to carry the offense against these Clippers, then we're better off getting another high lottery pick.
i don't disagree about the roster.
but like you said, half the roation aren't NBA players... who do you expect to carry the offense?
scott
11-05-2024, 01:01 AM
Just got back from watching the game with a co-worker. After the first quarter I was telling him we’d probably lose and how I had a front row seat when Tatum went for 60 and led the largest comeback in Celtics history against us… but I was kidding.
This was fucking embarrassing to watch.
LeBowen
11-05-2024, 01:01 AM
i don't disagree about the roster.
but like you said, half the roation aren't NBA players... who do you expect to carry the offense?
Keldon was nowhere to be seen after the first quarter.
Barnes got frozen out and never even got the ball.
Branham got it way more than he should since he's useless.
Collins played most minutes against Batum at C and scored 0 points.
Keldon and Collins earn like 35 million combined, 30% of the cap.
Literally dead weight.
NASpurs
11-05-2024, 01:01 AM
Going to the game tonight. Last time I saw Vic in person, he had a terrible game and they lost by 30. So just hoping for progress tbh.
GSG!
Mugen (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=15519) got to see the Clips get their first win in that arena. Hope you had fun :lol
Pauleta14
11-05-2024, 01:02 AM
Hope he gets called out on it tbh. I see Wemby as a dude to respond positively to harsh criticism. The problem is he's San Antonio's golden boy albeit rightfully so.
It's tough to ask a kid to do more on offense considering what he does on defense tbh
Reading the thread, some seem really mad at him and already taking for granted his ridiculous defense and the energy he spends on that side of the court.
He needs to change as much as he needs to be put in better situations. The coaching and linups were horrodous tonight and we've seen countless dumb plays/decisions by a lot of players
baseline bum
11-05-2024, 01:03 AM
Sure does. A rookie who's trying to do too much. His outside shooting is woeful, his handles are sub par, his vision/passing is terrible and his rebounding is lackluster given his size.
I don't mind the pullup threes in transition. Last year he showed he was elite at it. But in the halfcourt the constant running to the three point line for catch and shoot threes that he only shot 28% on last year and is way worse this year is terrible to watch. I know he thinks he's 7'4" Durant or 7'4" Kobe but those guys could catch and shoot. Victor has never shown an ability to do so.
timtonymanu
11-05-2024, 01:03 AM
Just got back from watching the game with a co-worker. After the first quarter I was telling him we’d probably lose and how I had a front row seat when Tatum went for 60 and led the largest comeback in Celtics history against us… but I was kidding.
This was fucking embarrassing to watch.
Stay home next time, bro. :lol kidding
scott
11-05-2024, 01:06 AM
Stay home next time, bro. :lol kidding
I wasn’t at this game… just at a bar with a co-worker since we’re traveling.
But… the last Spurs game road game I went to was @ LAC last season when we lost by 40.
So… yeah, maybe I shouldn’t go to any more Spurs road games.
Barfunk
11-05-2024, 01:08 AM
Don't know exactly what Wemby is thinking but it could be an ego problem in that he doesn't want to "rely" on obvious mismatches in the post because that would be too easy and instead wants to be a "baller". That's dumb. You take advantage of weaknesses and capitalize on your blatant strengths. Again, alot of this is solved when he finally decides to go in-out. Then the outside shooting becomes more of the seasoning rather than the main dish.
scott
11-05-2024, 01:10 AM
Watching Wemby unwilling to backdown Kris fucking Dunn was infuriating.
Who was on the court while Zubac was racking up a zillion OReb? A real shame that happened while we have a player who DREBs at an ELITE level just sitting on the bench in Bassey.
gambit1990
11-05-2024, 01:17 AM
Keldon was nowhere to be seen after the first quarter.
Barnes got frozen out and never even got the ball.
Branham got it way more than he should since he's useless.
Collins played most minutes against Batum at C and scored 0 points.
Keldon and Collins earn like 35 million combined, 30% of the cap.
Literally dead weight.
before the season started i posted about how the majority of the roster should be on the trading block. so you're kinda preaching to the choir.
my complaint was just that wemby can have an obvious mismatch and not be able to take advantage of it. a much smaller defender was dictating his positioning.
The Truth #6
11-05-2024, 01:20 AM
Jeremy was playing so well at the beginning of the game. I think his absence was huge.
spursparker9
11-05-2024, 01:26 AM
Jeremy was playing so well at the beginning of the game. I think his absence was huge.
Yea, he was guarding Harden very well.
objective
11-05-2024, 01:26 AM
Collins is making more than Zubac this year and the same next season
Makes sense lol
murpjf88
11-05-2024, 01:28 AM
before the season started i posted about how the majority of the roster should be on the trading block. so you're kinda preaching to the choir.
my complaint was just that wemby can have an obvious mismatch and not be able to take advantage of it. a much smaller defender was dictating his positioning.
The Spurs need to stockpile those 2nd rounders. I mean, the only reason CP3 and Barnes are on this roster is so the Spurs can flip them for draft picks at the trade deadline. Let's replace scrubs with scrubs. Wemby will be out of here the first chance he gets because the Spurs FO does the bare minimum.
Mugen
11-05-2024, 01:33 AM
Mugen (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=15519) got to see the Clips get their first win in that arena. Hope you had fun :lol
NGL, pretty fun game to see in person even if they shit the bed. Wemby is just ridiculous live tbh even when he's shooting like crap.
This team just lacks the firepower to stay with most NBA teams tbh. Have to pretty much play perfect defense in order to have a shot and that's asking a lot when you're giving turnstiles like Keldon, Branham, and Zollins rotation minutes.
Felt inevitable once the Clippers turned up the defensive intensity.
TekXX
11-05-2024, 01:35 AM
You guys think the Holts can build a state-of-the-art Intuit dome in Downtown SA? They'll prolly call it the Whataburger dome.
Mugen
11-05-2024, 01:39 AM
Stay home next time, bro. :lol kidding
I wasn’t at this game… just at a bar with a co-worker since we’re traveling.
But… the last Spurs game road game I went to was @ LAC last season when we lost by 40.
So… yeah, maybe I shouldn’t go to any more Spurs road games.
I was at the same game last year. I think my record seeing them in person is something like 1-9 so I should definitely stay home tbh :lol
timtonymanu
11-05-2024, 01:43 AM
NGL, pretty fun game to see in person even if they shit the bed. Wemby is just ridiculous live tbh even when he's shooting like crap.
This team just lacks the firepower to stay with most NBA teams tbh. Have to pretty much play perfect defense in order to have a shot and that's asking a lot when you're giving turnstiles like Keldon, Branham, and Zollins rotation minutes.
Felt inevitable once the Clippers turned up the defensive intensity.
I find it odd that Pop gets sick the moment you decide to watch a game. I think we might have a conspiracy on our hands.
100%duncan
11-05-2024, 01:46 AM
It's tough to ask a kid to do more on offense considering what he does on defense tbh
Reading the thread, some seem really mad at him and already taking for granted his ridiculous defense and the energy he spends on that side of the court.
He needs to change as much as he needs to be put in better situations. The coaching and linups were horrodous tonight and we've seen countless dumb plays/decisions by a lot of players
True. This is one of his best defensive games. But, everyone holds him to a higher standard so he should be criticized on offense. Not just for this game, for the young season so far.
rankingtear
11-05-2024, 01:51 AM
Except he did last year starting January or so. Now he's regressed back to jacking up threes thinking he's Kevin Durant. Unless he's hurt I don't get it at all. A 102.7 offensive rating is horrendous.
His pts per posession on post touches was .43 before Jan .46 after. What he is good is at the elbow .6 last year down to .2 this year. Putting guards/wings on him neutralize part of his game.
Ice009
11-05-2024, 02:35 AM
Terrible loss. I thought the Spurs were going to win this one after that start :(.
rankingtear
11-05-2024, 03:24 AM
Wemby post up kills our offense, it is confirmed by CP3 that they are eliminating much of it.
onechance87
11-05-2024, 04:58 AM
Wemby post up kills our offense, it is confirmed by CP3 that they are eliminating much of it.
We really needed wemby to post up and slow the game down.Make em work and attack the rim and get them in foul trouble
to help slow down their momentum or something.We couldint hit shots and needed sum type of offense to get us barely by.
But wemby didnt step up.
LeBowen
11-05-2024, 06:39 AM
We really needed wemby to post up and slow the game down.Make em work and attack the rim and get them in foul trouble
to help slow down their momentum or something.We couldint hit shots and needed sum type of offense to get us barely by.
But wemby didnt step up.
While Wemby definitely needs to punish mismatches more, post ups get exponentially easier to counter with every non-shooter on the floor.
Spurs often times have two next to Wemby and it's really easy to send help. His post moves need to be quick and decisive.
Since he's shooting so many threes, I'd actually like him to just try and master that LMA fadeaway, would be way better for him and for the team.
Needs to keep balance whenever he catches it near the paint and fadeaway would become automatic.
I really think Devin will completely change how the team looks on offense, just hoping he won't need much time to get into rythm.
Ice009
11-05-2024, 07:28 AM
Wemby post up kills our offense, it is confirmed by CP3 that they are eliminating much of it.
When did he say this?
mudyez
11-05-2024, 08:30 AM
It least the Clippers got one for avoiding to give OKC a lottery pick...since it's still a transition season, I care more about if the Atlanta pick is better than the Clippers pick, than our own record.
RC_Drunkford
11-05-2024, 09:18 AM
get LaMarcus on the coaching staff. He had one of the best post up games period.
I went to bed at halftime, but I knew what the result was gonna be after they basically gave up that lead by the half.
scott
11-05-2024, 09:28 AM
get LaMarcus on the coaching staff. He had one of the best post up games period.
Love this idea. LA as a dedicated “Wemby Coach”. Not a big man coach. A Wemby Coach. Dedicated solely to the one player. Have no way of knowing what Wemby is thinking, but on offense he’s become the inefficient chucker ball hog this site criticizes other players of being, and hopefully these short term bad habits don’t set in and become his playing identity.
LeBowen
11-05-2024, 09:28 AM
get LaMarcus on the coaching staff. He had one of the best post up games period.
The problem is that what LMA did won't ever work for Wemby.
LMA would bully his way into the position, get the ball, bump the defender and then either take a turnaround jumper or drive to the middle.
Even when Wemby gets into position, he's easily dislodged and loses balance. Can't even take jumpshots like that, let alone put the ball on the floor and drive.
Wemby post up kills our offense, it is confirmed by CP3 that they are eliminating much of it.
You know what else kills our offense? Wemby flinging 25-footers at every given opportunity.
I know he's Wemby so he has the ultimate greenlight, but he is shooting .220 on 7 attempts a game. He was 2/9 last night. That is NOT good offense. It's basically wasted possessions.
I don't expect him to go down and post up like Timmy did, but there has to be a way to get him better shots than that and he needs to stop settling for these garbage attempts unless he can start hitting them.
scott
11-05-2024, 09:31 AM
You know what else kills our offense? Wemby flinging 25-footers at every given opportunity.
I know he's Wemby so he has the ultimate greenlight, but he is shooting .220 on 7 attempts a game. He was 2/9 last night. That is NOT good offense. It's basically wasted possessions.
I don't expect him to go down and post up like Timmy did, but there has to be a way to get him better shots than that and he needs to stop settling for these garbage attempts unless he can start hitting them.
I think one way to look at Wemby’s 3PT shooting is to just count them as turnovers. That’s an additional 5.5/gm that Wemby is committing. That’s bad enough before you add them to the 3.3 real turnovers/gm he’s committing.
You know what else kills our offense? Wemby flinging 25-footers at every given opportunity.
I know he's Wemby so he has the ultimate greenlight, but he is shooting .220 on 7 attempts a game. He was 2/9 last night. That is NOT good offense. It's basically wasted possessions.
I don't expect him to go down and post up like Timmy did, but there has to be a way to get him better shots than that and he needs to stop settling for these garbage attempts unless he can start hitting them.
If he's guarded by a 6'4 guy, he should be posting up like Timmy did tbh.
The most frustrating aspect, by far, of Wemby's game isn't his 3 point shooting but his inexplicable desire to pass back out after we've worked 14 seconds to get him into the post with a mismatch. It's bad basketball, objectively. Just shoot it, dude. CP3 running a PnR or some other player jacking up a shot at the end of the shot clock isn't going to turn out better on probably 70-80% of possessions.
RC_Drunkford
11-05-2024, 12:40 PM
The problem is that what LMA did won't ever work for Wemby.
LMA would bully his way into the position, get the ball, bump the defender and then either take a turnaround jumper or drive to the middle.
Even when Wemby gets into position, he's easily dislodged and loses balance. Can't even take jumpshots like that, let alone put the ball on the floor and drive.
Wemby can shoot a fadeaway though. He can also drive to the middle and shoot a hook shot (theoretically) and LaMarcus also had a face up game, since his midrange shot was money. I mean the Spurs already brought him in for a workout with Wemby, but I think as a player development coach he could teach the young guys some good stuff.
I think one way to look at Wemby’s 3PT shooting is to just count them as turnovers. That’s an additional 5.5/gm that Wemby is committing. That’s bad enough before you add them to the 3.3 real turnovers/gm he’s committing.
At least a bad shot has a chance of going in, but mathematically you're not wrong.
I'm fine if Wemby wants to be a three-point shooter some of the time. But I don't care if you are Wemby or LeBron or Michael Jordan, a coach needs to tell you to reel it in if you are shooting 22%.
Wemby has all the talent in the world and his shot will hopefully improve, but these are just wasteful shots right now.
Unless he is shooting these at like a 60% clip in scrimmage and we are just missing something, telling him to "just keep shooting" is bad coaching.
ambchang
11-05-2024, 01:17 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/zr589f/stat_muse_worst_3p_in_a_season_on_7_attempts_per/?rdt=61620
Wemby is in some good company, and if he keeps this up, he will shatter that record.
NASpurs
11-05-2024, 01:28 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/zr589f/stat_muse_worst_3p_in_a_season_on_7_attempts_per/?rdt=61620
Wemby is in some good company, and if he keeps this up, he will shatter that record.
Imagine having both Tre and Wemby chucking 3s. We would be the San Antoine Walkers
Pauleta14
11-05-2024, 01:59 PM
Wemby post up kills our offense, it is confirmed by CP3 that they are eliminating much of it.
Until they change strategy again.
They have no idea what they're doing, Wemby is almost in a diva mode as if he needed to change the game of basketball by himself and Pop lost his edge, he just wanna be friend with his players.
Wemby said in post game that he wats to learn the P&R from Cp3 but we barely see one per game, he almost never rolls ffs
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