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Millennial_Messiah

11-19-2024, 05:36 PM

Well, with the Trump trifecta and realistically quadri-fecta given the SCOTUS majority, they shouldn't have a problem overturning a lot of VRA Section II from the Lyndon Johnson era. That primarily affects Louisiana and Alabama, which will almost certainly at minimum restore the 2022 maps, and safeguards other southern safe-red states against having to draw more blue districts.

I think it's very plausible Utah gets a blue district in Salt Lake City because they have the bipartisan commission there, but Kelly Ayotte has been pretty hawkish on drawing a red district in New Hampshire. We'll see. Also Ohio with the GOP quadri-fecta and Kaptur and Sykes both almost losing this time around, I think there's a good chance we seem them both getting drawn out as well since they are forced to draw a new map anyway and the Ohio voters voted against the "bipartisan redistricting committee" amendment.

Democrats did very well in the House in 2024, particularly in New York and California and narrowly held on to Trump-won seats in the Texas RGV. The GOP did especially well in the rust belt, particularly flipping both Lehigh Valley Pennsylvania seats, holding on to PA-10 and flipping MI-07, though MI-08 should have also been a flip but with a better candidate. For the first time since the pre-REDMAP (2011) era, the Democrats benefited in an election from gerrymandering, not Republicans.

Will Hunting (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=17032) Winehole23 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14613) TSA (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7640)

Millennial_Messiah

11-19-2024, 05:38 PM

It's a felony that Henderson, Nevada is drawn into a blue district. One of the worst Democrat gerrymanders outside of Illinois. It's really too bad that Lombardo didn't really push for an independent commission which would have really helped here. There's absolutely no reason Trump should be winning a state and only getting 25% of the house seats.

The fix:

https://i.imgur.com/3tebxb9.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/qtW8qg5.jpg

Winehole23

11-19-2024, 10:41 PM

go ahead, prosecute people for drawing maps unfavorable to Republicans, it suits y'all

Millennial_Messiah

11-20-2024, 12:47 AM

go ahead, prosecute people for drawing maps unfavorable to Republicans, it suits y'all

I wasn't suggesting that.

I was suggesting overturning racist LBJ-era legislation that no longer applies to the 21st century aside from giving one party an unfair one-way advantage over the other, sort of like Order 66 from Star Wars

Millennial_Messiah

11-20-2024, 12:58 AM

If I'm the Alabama GOP / state legislature, this is EXACTLY what I'm doing with Alabama's U.S. House map, pending the 2025 SCOTUS ruling on VRAII. They fought, they fought like hell, the woke left judges won round 1, do unto others as they have done unto thee, and hit back twice as hard.

And the best part is, you don't even really need to draw any snake districts or ugly gerrymanders to get this done. Clean map:

https://i.imgur.com/JGn1gVI.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/ehw9jiy.jpg

If you're black in 'Bama, better get onboard with the MAGA train fast, or else move to Shitlanta or something!! :toast

Bonus: this map is actually skewed democrat a bit in terms of the stats, since it includes the one-off 2017 senate election, so good luck dems in ever getting a seat in Alabama ever again!

HemisfairArena

11-20-2024, 02:01 AM

go ahead, prosecute people for drawing maps unfavorable to Republicans, it suits y'all

sorry this is happening to you,,,,

Millennial_Messiah

02-06-2025, 06:23 PM

Ohio legally MUST re-draw this year. They have a red trifecta and a much more authentically conservative, GOP-lackey Supreme Court in 2025 than they did in 2021. RINO-centrist Maureen O'Connor no longer there. Kaptur and Sykes proven to be beatable in 2024, winning by razor thin margins.

Let's get 'er done......... North Carolina style:

https://i.imgur.com/HneeYu5.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/P3DUeW8.jpeg

https://imgur.com/gallery/ohio-2026-redistricting-suggestion-republicans-fp0fu5w
https://i.imgur.com/r8BC17i.jpeg
https://imgur.com/gallery/ohio-2026-redistricting-suggestion-republicans-fp0fu5w

Winehole23

03-03-2025, 11:03 AM

states thumbing their noses at courts, Ohio has been doing this repeatedly

Alabama Republicans on Friday defied a U.S. Supreme Court (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court) order by passing a new congressional map that includes only one majority-Black district (https://www.nbcnews.com/nbcblk).

The GOP-controlled Legislature had called a special session to redraw an earlier map after the Supreme Court reaffirmed a federal court order to include two districts where Black voters make up voting-age majorities, “or something quite close to it.” But on Friday, state Republicans approved a new map with just one majority-Black seat and a second district that is approximately 40% Black.

The bill passed the House in a 75-28 vote after the Senate voted 24 to 6 in favor of the revised map.

The map was completed Friday afternoon — hours before the court-ordered deadline for the Legislature to draw up new boundaries — as a compromise between the House and Senate versions.

Republican Gov. Kay Ivey signed the redistricting map into law Friday night. A federal court will hold a hearing on the map Aug. 14.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/alabama-gop-refuses-draw-second-black-district-supreme-court-order-rcna94715

Winehole23

05-09-2025, 08:26 AM

Republican judges rule that Alabama wrote a racist map and ignored orders to fix it three times

Alabama might have to use a court mandated map until the next census (2030)

We repeat — now for the third time — that these Section Two claims are not a close call. Numerosity is undisputed, extensive evidence establishes reasonable compactness, and there is no serious dispute that voting is intensely racially polarized with extreme consequences: Black candidates have enjoyed zero success in statewide elections in Alabama since 1994 (when a single Black person was elected to the Alabama Supreme Court after a previous appointment), and only three Black candidates have ever been elected to any statewide office since Reconstruction.https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/61494291/490/milligan-v-allen/

Winehole23

07-18-2025, 08:12 AM

off-rhythm re-gerrymandering will be taken up in the lege special session

Texas did this once before, in 2003. To my knowledge, no other state has ever done it.

Winehole23

07-20-2025, 09:09 AM

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:efpytyxmwow5ffwi3dphhrlq/bafkreiffpbgmzawd6vjtbllklqtyjxofqdgnxpg3ece5lrgoh vhgo6lfwu@jpeg

The current 25-13 Texas gerrymander generally protects Republican incumbents by giving them seats with margins of at least +7, hard to beat except in a big Democratic wave. To eliminate five more Dem seats, map drawers would have to slice likely R winning margins down to perhaps 3 points in many, many districts. And if they try that, even a modestly good Democratic year could flip a large number of seats in Texas Democratic at once -- what I call the tippy-boat phenomenon (and others call a "dummymander").https://substack.com/@walterolson/note/c-136942025

Millennial_Messiah

08-04-2025, 02:07 PM

Let's fucking GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO~~~~~

Everything seems to be on the table.

Will Hunting So much for Texas geography being bad for the GOP in the largest continental state in the US, huh? :lmao

as it turns out, Texas geography is horrible for the Dems, with inner city vote sinks making up most of the Democrat vote share in Texas in three or four big cities.

Millennial_Messiah

08-04-2025, 04:29 PM

I hope Abbott and Paxton follow through on this and are all bite and not just bark. Have to be thorough. Put them in jail and replace them all with GOP appointees until the 2026 November elections when the Dems would inevitably take most if not all of those lost state seats back. But that would mean the GOP would have near to 100% state representation until January 2027, so the GOP can fast track state amendments that are permanent without filibuster, like a total abortion ban into the state constitution, permanent school choice, and pretty much locking liberal policy out of the state forever.

I'm pro choice and whatnot, but that sort of rhetoric would literally force progressives to flee Austin to other less draconian right wing states and also attract more right wingers in from blue states to replace them because the house prices would go down temporarily with the techy progressives fleeing Austin and certain progressive parts of DFW/Houston, for a blue state.

It would solidify Texas as an >R+20 state forever, without likely losing electoral votes because conservatives looking for cheaper housing would replace the fleeing progressives. States in the northeast and other very blue states might get bluer consequently, but that doesn't matter. Do it, Hotwheels.

Winehole23

08-05-2025, 12:52 PM

As usual, you're daydreaming

None of that is going to happen

The re-gerrymander could backfire by making safe R districts more competitive in a wave election

ChumpDumper

08-06-2025, 10:57 AM

Those damn Dems did it again!

1952522688750346369

https://x.com/Acyn/status/1952522688750346369

SnakeBoy

08-07-2025, 02:51 PM

https://x.com/ElectionWiz/status/1953436099621122497

That'd be cool if it happens

Millennial_Messiah

08-07-2025, 02:58 PM

https://x.com/ElectionWiz/status/1953436099621122497

That'd be cool if it happens

I think that's lofty, and if they do a new census then Dem states will get to redistrict again, Illinois if they lose 2 seats could draw out another Republican if there's only 15 seats for example, NY courts might side with Dems this time if they for example draw out 2 republicans if they lose 3 seats, Florida is pretty maxed out already (geography isn't good for the GOP around Miami and Broward County), a few states simply won't draw out certain large black districts like the one in Mississippi and the one in Georgia, yes LA and AL will go back to the 2022 map if VRA II is overturned, and I'd expect Newsom's proposition to repeal the independent commission will get defeated, because moderate dems in CA have recently come out against retaliatory gerrymandering.

I've long been in favor of a 2025 mid-decade census anyway, and not because of illegals but because the 2020 census was an asterisk census because it happened *JUST* before all of the covid-related relocations.

Winehole23

08-08-2025, 11:02 AM

Greg Abbott's requested 5:00 PM Thursday deadline came and went and the Texas Supreme Court left him on read

Winehole23

08-15-2025, 07:31 AM

midstream redistricting has gotten competitive, it's not just for Republicans anymore

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:uo2fna47c4v6zcnklxfhcvjb/bafkreihvhipmbywbdb2wx27qcb4cvxwjwqd2qtoizealzxi4q zts3eachu@jpeg

Millennial_Messiah

08-15-2025, 09:50 AM

midstream redistricting has gotten competitive, it's not just for Republicans anymore

seen Newsom's map, yes this is a liberal pipe dream, Economist/YouGov poll (generally slightly left leaning national pollster) polled that a whopping 67% of Californians would vote against repealing the independent redistricting committee if it even makes a ballot in the first place, and even with solid (D) majorities in the CA state legislature all it would take is one lawsuit, which would definitely happen, to even keep this issue from even having the chance to take effect until, at minimum, 2028, and they'd still have to get a majority to vote yea on repealing something encoded into their own state constitution which is a very difficult process and requires a higher vote majority, and as of now voting in favor of gerrymandering doesn't even seem to be polling anywhere near even a simple majority in California, as almost all independents there including left-leaning independents are vehemently against this regardless of what happens in Texas, Illinois or any other states with partisan gerrymandering.

I wish Will Hunting was here to chime on in this matter, he seemed to actually know his stuff quite well as he knew people in DC. I really hope he didn't get carjacked to death as is the case with highest-per-capita crime infested DC at this time, he has a blue bias but has always been fair and mostly accurate, I wish him well.

Winehole23

08-15-2025, 10:01 AM

carjackings are pretty rare overall, no?

Millennial_Messiah

08-15-2025, 12:51 PM

carjackings are pretty rare overall, no?

Not in DC. Apparently 33% of the population of licensed drivers there have been carjacked, including congressmen and government officials.

Winehole23

08-15-2025, 01:18 PM

Not in DC. Apparently 33% of the population of licensed drivers there have been carjacked, including congressmen and government officials.according to who?

koriwhat

08-15-2025, 01:36 PM

according to who?

Lol pretending crime isn't record high in DC. :lol

Winehole23

08-15-2025, 02:05 PM

is the basic argument here that the prevalence of carjacking in DC requires Trump to override Home Rule?

Winehole23

08-15-2025, 02:06 PM

some bullshit emergency, every time

Millennial_Messiah

09-20-2025, 01:00 AM

Let's join the fight to defeat California Proposition 50, a vitriolic breach of the state constitution in favor of partisan gerrymandering by Newsom and Co.

Millennial_Messiah

10-01-2025, 05:20 AM

BASED MISSOURI OFFICIALLY PASSES 7-1 MAP!!

Millennial_Messiah

10-16-2025, 01:29 AM

MMMM, according to NYT and leaked independent sources, Scotus finally looks like they will overturn VRA Section II Will Hunting Winehole23 later this year in time for the midterms!! :D :D :D :lol :lol :lol

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSxX9TQVH4HokEO_rmRq1HYSuCQspLh5 WHUbQ&s

to be fair, I don't believe these maps will actually pass in every state, but I do believe Alabama will go brutal out of revenge from 2023 and draw a pretty neat 7-0 map, Louisiana will probably just revert back to the 2022 map because it's stupid to draw out New Orleans, I don't see Kemp and Georgia drawing out GA-02, I don't see the Mississippi Delta Bennie Thompson's district getting cracked in MS, I don't see Clyburn getting drawn out and I definitely don't see Memphis getting drawn out especially given geography.

So the GOP probably gets like 6 pickups instead of 12, still a solid boom given they're losing a random seat in Utah

BadMotorscooter

10-16-2025, 01:46 AM

MMMM, according to NYT and leaked independent sources, Scotus finally looks like they will overturn VRA Section II Will Hunting (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=17032) Winehole23 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14613) later this year in time for the midterms!! :D :D :D :lol :lol :lol

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSxX9TQVH4HokEO_rmRq1HYSuCQspLh5 WHUbQ&s

to be fair, I don't believe these maps will actually pass in every state, but I do believe Alabama will go brutal out of revenge from 2023 and draw a pretty neat 7-0 map, Louisiana will probably just revert back to the 2022 map because it's stupid to draw out New Orleans, I don't see Kemp and Georgia drawing out GA-02, I don't see the Mississippi Delta Bennie Thompson's district getting cracked in MS, I don't see Clyburn getting drawn out and I definitely don't see Memphis getting drawn out especially given geography.

So the GOP probably gets like 6 pickups instead of 12, still a solid boom given they're losing a random seat in Utah

winehole and his posse...blake and chumper dont like facts.....but ill be here laughing when they lose the midterms.....

Millennial_Messiah

10-18-2025, 12:42 PM

If racist VRA Section II is repealed, the dems will have a very very very narrow majority to ever win the house ever again, it would take a blue wave for the dems to even get 218-220 seats, and they're probably not getting the senate either as their hard cap in a best case is 52 house seats because there are 24 solid red states, but that would require a dem friendly year in every year each senator is up and dems to run the table in all 8 swing states, which is extremely unlikely.

The only thing I can think of is if Newsom wins President he can establish a program to grant U.S. Citizenship to illegal immigrants and build houses for them in places like Utah, Wyoming, Kansas, Nebraska, the Dakotas. Those states are small enough in population that only a few hundred thousand new blue voters in each of them would flip them pretty easily. That would change everything especially in the senate if he can do that and turn those (relatively low population) states blue that way. That's what I would do if I were a Democrat president.

Millennial_Messiah

10-18-2025, 03:13 PM

I think this is how the 2026 House is going to shape out:

https://i.imgur.com/gOu810c.jpeg

This map actually isn't too terrible for Democrats, and assumes the Democrats get a flip each via redistricting in Utah and Washington State.

Millennial_Messiah

10-21-2025, 06:00 PM

Don Davis got drawn out in NC today (and Josh Stein can't veto):

https://www.ajc.com/resizer/v2/CJKZB5JVJZHZ3IFYMB74M6CCEM.jpg?auth=ced624ee7cec01 1c0091803e8f77ae04bbfb756f43230faea2464a34876f75a1&width=3840&height=2160&smart=true

ChumpDumper

10-21-2025, 10:17 PM

:lol why are Trumptards so worried about the midterms?

Winehole23

10-22-2025, 10:56 AM

basing redistricting on 2024 outcomes might not be the winner Rs are hoping for

Trump's ethnic-cleansing/kidnapping operation is swiftly turning hispanics into a solid anti-MAGA bloc

Indiana Senate Republicans say they do not have votes to pass mid-cycle redistricting despite a pressure campaign from the White House, according to a spokesperson for Senate President Pro Tempore Rodric Bray.

www.politico.com/news/2025/10... (https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/22/indiana-redistricting-trump-senate-00618155)

Millennial_Messiah

10-23-2025, 12:39 PM

basing redistricting on 2024 outcomes might not be the winner Rs are hoping for

Trump's ethnic-cleansing/kidnapping operation is swiftly turning hispanics into a solid anti-MAGA bloc

www.politico.com/news/2025/10... (https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/22/indiana-redistricting-trump-senate-00618155)

That's why I have Cuellar still winning that House election next year.

I don't believe Indiana won't end up drawing out IN-01 but they'll have to compromise and not draw out the Indianapolis seat which is probably for the best because it's such a perfectly drawn (D) sink seat already.

Winehole23

10-23-2025, 04:22 PM

(I'm puttin' you down for "down with Trump's ethnic-cleansing/kidnapping operation", Andy)

Millennial_Messiah

10-24-2025, 01:07 AM

:lol why are Trumptards so worried about the midterms?

Black Nationalists by the thousands will want one of their own in the White House again long reminiscing the "glory days" of Obama, and Hakeem is their best bet. Would have to snipe out Trump and Vance pretty much simultaneously, but if we learned anything from the Charlie Kirk assassination, it's actually quite easy to kill someone if you really want to.

If the dems regain the house in 2026, smart money is on Hakeem being sworn in as POTUS 48 via POTUS/VP assassination chain

make no mistake, the Left is the party of violence, as the Communist Bolsheviks were 100+ years ago against the Czar who was not fascist but a benevolent dictator.

Winehole23

10-24-2025, 06:14 AM

Black Nationalists by the thousands will want one of their own in the White House again long reminiscing the "glory days" of Obama, and Hakeem is their best betother than the Nation of Islam, who are you really talking about here?

Winehole23

10-24-2025, 07:29 PM

do you think the DNC is black nationalist or something?

what you're saying sounds very obscure to me

ChumpDumper

10-24-2025, 07:30 PM

Black Nationalists:lmao no need to read the rest of that.

ChumpDumper

10-24-2025, 07:31 PM

make no mistake, the Left is the party of violenceThen why did your side kill all those people?

Millennial_Messiah

10-24-2025, 09:43 PM

do you think the DNC is black nationalist or something?

what you're saying sounds very obscure to me

They're actually secular jew nationalist, i.e. new world rich order nationalist, but the liberal blacks are their perfect S-tier goyim to put on the proverbial throne as they trigger the NPJs enemies, i.e. white conservatives, the hardest.

other than the Nation of Islam, who are you really talking about here?
apart from people like Farrakhan and people like Stephen Jackson who globbed on to that ideology after the George Fentanyl Floyd covid riots crap, there's the whole BLM movement including the white black nationalists that are woke and essentially chickens for KFC, "govern me harder daddy" snowflakes who would get triple vaxxed and boosted and essentially sell their buttholes to the NPJs for enough sheckels to buy a Starbucks latte. New world order loves them. "Queers for palestine", "Whites for BLM", "White dudes for Harris", "Trans lives matter"... same antifa tard giga-cult. And yes, queers for palestine is 100% run by the jews, i.e. the rich secular atheistic/agnostic jews that hate actual practicing Jews, Christians, and white conservatism.

BadMotorscooter

10-24-2025, 09:47 PM

some bullshit emergency, every time

maybe your two friends will back you up.....lmao

Winehole23

10-25-2025, 03:48 AM

^^^ allergic to political topics

Winehole23

10-25-2025, 03:57 AM

They're actually secular jew nationalist, i.e. new world rich order nationalist, but the liberal blacks are their perfect S-tier goyim to put on the proverbial throne as they trigger the NPJs enemies, i.e. white conservatives, the hardest.

apart from people like Farrakhan and people like Stephen Jackson who globbed on to that ideology after the George Fentanyl Floyd covid riots crap, there's the whole BLM movement including the white black nationalists that are woke and essentially chickens for KFC, "govern me harder daddy" snowflakes who would get triple vaxxed and boosted and essentially sell their buttholes to the NPJs for enough sheckels to buy a Starbucks latte. New world order loves them. "Queers for palestine", "Whites for BLM", "White dudes for Harris", "Trans lives matter"... same antifa tard giga-cult. And yes, queers for palestine is 100% run by the jews, i.e. the rich secular atheistic/agnostic jews that hate actual practicing Jews, Christians, and white conservatism.Thanks for frankly expressing your batshit insane bigotry and antisemitism

Most posters try to hide it

Millennial_Messiah

10-25-2025, 12:49 PM

Thanks for frankly expressing your batshit insane bigotry and antisemitism

Most posters try to hide it

to be clear, I don't hate the practicing Jews, Vaads, Orthodox Jews, Hasidic Jews etc. Similar to BUMP and many others in the community of the awake, I simply loathe the loathsome wealthy non-practicing Jews (NPJs) who are extremely wealthy new-world-order atheist/agnostics who push a radical progressivist and new world order agenda, white replacement, population control, replacement of the nuclear family and family unit, promotion of counterculture of all forms and degradation of humanity. They are pure evil and have the highest percentage of concentrated wealth in the world, and pretty much exclusively fund Democrats and left-wing politicians and causes around the world. They are the ones that should be hated by every single family oriented person, people with kids etc regardless of race or religion tbh. They are the threat to humanity.

Adolf knew this well. Adolf's mistake was biting off much more than he could chew too quickly, he was winning the War with ease until he decided to stick his foot in Russia too early, that needed to be the last frontier in Eurasia. Also allowing Japan to bomb Pearl Harbor, that was absolutely fatal for the Axis powers and Adolf who had a narrow path to victory without poking the big bears too fast.

ChumpDumper

10-25-2025, 01:35 PM

to be clear, I don't hate the practicing Jews, Vaads, Orthodox Jews, Hasidic Jews etc. Similar to BUMP and many others in the community of the awake, I simply loathe the loathsome wealthy non-practicing Jews (NPJs) who are extremely wealthy new-world-order atheist/agnostics who push a radical progressivist and new world order agenda, white replacement, population control, replacement of the nuclear family and family unit, promotion of counterculture of all forms and degradation of humanity. They are pure evil and have the highest percentage of concentrated wealth in the world, and pretty much exclusively fund Democrats and left-wing politicians and causes around the world. They are the ones that should be hated by every single family oriented person, people with kids etc regardless of race or religion tbh. They are the threat to humanity.

Adolf knew this well. Adolf's mistake was biting off much more than he could chew too quickly, he was winning the War with ease until he decided to stick his foot in Russia too early, that needed to be the last frontier in Eurasia. Also allowing Japan to bomb Pearl Harbor, that was absolutely fatal for the Axis powers and Adolf who had a narrow path to victory without poking the big bears too fast.

:lol

Millennial_Messiah

10-25-2025, 03:40 PM

:lol

It's true though. The solution to winning WWII from a Deutschland perspective was to leave the US and Russia alone for as long as possible, and leverage the might of powerful allies in Italy, Spain, Japan, the Middle East Islamist regimes, and to an extent Finland. You've already conquered or allied with most of Europe, conquered France which was the first big domino, and basically annexed and/or made allegiances with the rest of central and northern Europe. The key was to leave Stalingrad alone and to focus all efforts and might on conquering the U.K. Once the UK fell to the Third Reich, you re-assess the situation and bask in victory. Maybe the US and/or Russia send forces to try and save Britain, maybe they don't. At this point the UK is run by an Axis-friendly government, ideally more similar to a Franco or Mussolini than the relatively weak Vichy France. Once you have complete and total control of all of Europe west of the USSR, if the USA commits to isolationism and Pearl Harbor never happens, you can easily strengthen forces along the USSR border and in the Middle East. Make key oil deals with Muslim tycoon countries that the USA and USSR can't match. Strengthen your navy and air force to be the strongest in the world. Annex and easily take control over Switzerland, and establish a core industrial and nuclear base there that can't easily be attacked due to terrain. Make the Third Reich and its allies strong enough to weather any attack from the USSR or anywhere else.

ChumpDumper

10-25-2025, 09:24 PM

It's true though. The solution to winning WWII from a Deutschland perspective was to leave the US and Russia alone for as long as possible, and leverage the might of powerful allies in Italy, Spain, Japan, the Middle East Islamist regimes, and to an extent Finland. You've already conquered or allied with most of Europe, conquered France which was the first big domino, and basically annexed and/or made allegiances with the rest of central and northern Europe. The key was to leave Stalingrad alone and to focus all efforts and might on conquering the U.K. Once the UK fell to the Third Reich, you re-assess the situation and bask in victory. Maybe the US and/or Russia send forces to try and save Britain, maybe they don't. At this point the UK is run by an Axis-friendly government, ideally more similar to a Franco or Mussolini than the relatively weak Vichy France. Once you have complete and total control of all of Europe west of the USSR, if the USA commits to isolationism and Pearl Harbor never happens, you can easily strengthen forces along the USSR border and in the Middle East. Make key oil deals with Muslim tycoon countries that the USA and USSR can't match. Strengthen your navy and air force to be the strongest in the world. Annex and easily take control over Switzerland, and establish a core industrial and nuclear base there that can't easily be attacked due to terrain. Make the Third Reich and its allies strong enough to weather any attack from the USSR or anywhere else.:lol

SnakeBoy

10-25-2025, 09:31 PM

ChumpDumper

10-25-2025, 09:53 PM

Spurs Homer

10-25-2025, 10:27 PM

Nazis gonna nazi…

Fuckin imbeciles…

BadMotorscooter

10-25-2025, 10:35 PM

Nazis gonna nazi…

Fuckin imbeciles…

communists gonna communist.....

ChumpDumper

10-25-2025, 10:49 PM

communists gonna communist.....

Define communism and show how the people you talk about fit that definition.

Or fold.

BadMotorscooter

10-25-2025, 10:50 PM

Define communism and show how the people you talk about fit that definition.

Or fold.

Chump triggered.....:lmao

ChumpDumper

10-25-2025, 10:51 PM

Chump triggered.....:lmao
triggered Boomerfair folds.....:lmao

BadMotorscooter

10-25-2025, 10:52 PM

triggered Boomerfair folds.....:lmao

Chump triggered....:lmao

ChumpDumper

10-25-2025, 10:53 PM

Chump triggered....:lmao

You lose....:lmao

BadMotorscooter

10-25-2025, 10:54 PM

You lose....:lmao

you triggered....:lmao

ChumpDumper

10-25-2025, 10:54 PM

you triggered....:lmao

You can't post anything else....:lmao

BadMotorscooter

10-25-2025, 10:57 PM

You can't post anything else....:lmao

you triggered....:lmao

Millennial_Messiah

10-26-2025, 12:40 AM

Hitler had no intention of fighting Britain, France, or the US. His failure was in continuing forward with his plan to defeat the commies after Britian and France attacked him without provocation. Had Britian and France not been so triggered that they lashed out irrationally, he would have been able to rid the world of marxism.
We'd easily dispatched and conquered France by the summer of 1940, so they weren't a player at all as a sovereign state for the rest of the war. They were always weak and a key strategic buffer against Britain. Yes, the UK was weak and woke commie sympathizers, so the only way to defeat marxism and the USSR eventually was to eliminate the UK as a threat, either the soft way like with France or the hard way, but staying true to our side of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact (https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&cs=0&sca_esv=be90978bdcedae59&sxsrf=AE3TifMqJIujI-8aduioBN67BxcFd18Bfg%3A1761457067520&q=Molotov-Ribbentrop+Pact&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjgiZD2ksGQAxXbkyYFHfOcIGwQxccNegQIAhAB&mstk=AUtExfBQzvxD4snK743VNwDUj1ObfKcm2cEmI0HBiCSQj YqJZN2HdcVLZpOPXKHhB6-DF0mJWcpf2spj0FyAmLxJFJg9pe4Gds7P2BVYYP3xh36iG2URd 2Qt1R56VcHMNJ5xKk1IOIdrtf3TpBZBCGKNjlYvCo3Ou-3wpIxJsxqUPjG0oVSyUcNKplUQ6cPHh7k-N96UgoFzEox8CBJudqlSVRfnET2EmA4WQy_Kj1KYSeQ0F2eH54 M5DByFuR1ZCUYE_-5G7CRGZ7NZ2b-pr2Mcqn_H&csui=3) at least until the rest of Europe had been fulled cleared and conquered by the Reich and its allies. There was no way the USSR was going to attack unprovoked, but you have to like the Reich's chances against the USSR with a Reich-friendly UK/France/Spain/Italy and with a much better developed European war system versus the relatively primitive USSR which had little other than manpower at that point My point is that Adolf stretched the military way too thin and on way too many fronts which ended up easily becoming the downfall of the Reich not too dissimilar from the Napoleon fallacy.

The US was never going to be involved until Japan went rogue and very very stupid and did Pearl Harbor, obviously Japan was always the most loose-cannon out of our allies but they had to be reined in at some point. If not for Pearl Harbor the US had zero reason to become involved in the war, being halfway across the world with a strong homeland defense system and before the time of ICBMs and long range nuclear capability. Honestly they deserved to get nuked at Hiroshima and Nagasaki for their damn sheer stupidity that launched the full force of the great big satan to the west inadvertently into the Reich.

ChumpDumper

10-26-2025, 01:27 AM

We'd
:rollin

BadMotorscooter

10-26-2025, 01:29 AM

:rollin

Chump triggered like a dumbass as usual...:lmao

Millennial_Messiah

10-26-2025, 03:19 PM

:rollin@ "we"

Unapologetically

ChumpDumper

10-26-2025, 07:16 PM

UnapologeticallyBut that's not you.

Millennial_Messiah

10-26-2025, 08:42 PM

But that's not you.

I never met him, but paternal grandfather was pretty high up in the SS, got three years jail time in the Nuremberg trials, married my paternal grandmother who is Italian and Serbian and moved to Belgrade with her. My father was actually born in Belgrade. Never met him either, he's kind of turned communist, but I do know my oldest half brothers from him, he had like 14 sons with 11 women or something crazy like that including me

Millennial_Messiah

10-27-2025, 11:57 PM

vote no on 50, but i expect it to pass. single digit sleeper though

Millennial_Messiah

11-05-2025, 05:09 PM

Winehole23 BadMotorscooter SnakeBoy DarrinS Will Hunting

This is going to be one of the biggest issues of the next few months.

Jared Golden in ME-02 announced today he is retiring, making that district a very likely flip next year.

Winehole23

11-05-2025, 05:27 PM

Winehole23 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14613) BadMotorscooter (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=20056) SnakeBoy (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=12109) DarrinS (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=2042) Will Hunting (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=17032)

This is going to be one of the biggest issues of the next few months.

Jared Golden in ME-02 announced today he is retiring, making that district a very likely flip next year.I'm not familiar with Maine politics

If I had to guess, racial depolarization, stagflation and Trumpy fascism will result in an historic wave election in 2026

A 5-10% shift to the left isn't survivable for national Rs

Millennial_Messiah

11-05-2025, 06:06 PM

I'm not familiar with Maine politics

If I had to guess, racial depolarization, stagflation and Trumpy fascism will result in an historic wave election in 2026

A 5-10% shift to the left isn't survivable for national Rs
When I say "this" I don't mean just Maine. I mean nationwide bloody mid decade gerrymandering battles on both sides, ramifications from VRA II being overturned, etc. DeSantis announced that if prop 50 passed in California which it did, he will "absolutely" redraw Florida and attempt to match California seat for seat. He claims that Texas's redraw was a late retaliation to Illinois's radical gerrymander in 2021, which I absolutely agree with.

Religious and racial polarization as well as gender polarization (well under a third of youths are married and that number is dropping like a rock, leading to animosity amongst the sexes rather than unity, young christian men calling to abolish 19A forgetting that all that would do is make it a states' rights issue which all 50 states would almost certainly uphold) only will get worse, you're fudging yourself if you think otherwise. :lol

2026 is not 2006. You're living in the past. You're basically an inverse conservative pundit in November 2021, four short years ago. It's gonna be a monster red [blue] wave next year. All the momentum. The quarter term elections go amazingly well. It's gonna be a wave midterm. Reality check....... we live in a polarized country so the realistic best-case scenario for the Dems in 2026 is basically the inverse of what the GOP did in 2022. Take back the House by a small margin and struggle in the Senate because states are polarized and each candidate is evaluated on an individual level.

Stagflation is a problem, but the previous administration and AI are at fault, not GOP policy nor orange-man-bad.

If I can name one positive difference between Biden 2021 and Trump 2025. Bitcoin and crypto prices have stagnated not pumped and it's where most of my money lies. Biden left crypto alone in 2021 but other Dems in 2022 like Warren decided to stick their dirty trad-fi bureaucratic noses in. Which is why Trump got the crypto vote in 2024. But crypto has performed terribly in 2025 especially compared to every other post election year since 2009. If someone like Newsom promises to make bitcoin and blue chip altcoins a mainstream thing and has a well-detailed plan of action behind it, he's got my vote in 2028, because I vote with my wallet, otherwise I'm still under the assumption that the economic issues are the fault of AI and the Biden admin.

Winehole23

11-05-2025, 10:13 PM

you're fried, dude

take the filet out of the pan

Winehole23

11-05-2025, 10:14 PM

lol blaming it all on Biden

Winehole23

11-08-2025, 10:15 AM

can't be real, right?

:lol

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Winehole23

11-08-2025, 10:16 AM

(it isn't)

Winehole23

11-11-2025, 10:14 AM

Partisan gerrymander struck down in Utah

Third District Judge Dianna Gibson rejected new congressional boundaries proposed by Republican legislators late Monday night, instead choosing a map that will create a heavily Democratic-leaning district in Salt Lake County and shake up Utah’s political landscape.

“In short, [the Legislature’s map] does not comply with Utah law,” Gibson wrote in her ruling. “Because the Lieutenant Governor’s November 10, 2025, deadline for a map to be finalized is upon us, the Court bears the unwelcome obligation to ensure that a lawful map is in place, which the Court discharges by adopting” a map submitted by the plaintiffs in the yearslong lawsuit.

The map Gibson selected makes a district of the northern portion of Salt Lake County, and splits Utah County into eastern and western districts, ultimately creating a district that truly favors Democrats for the first time in a quarter century.
https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/2025/11/11/gerrymander-utah-judge-rejects-gop/

Winehole23

11-11-2025, 10:40 AM

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Winehole23

11-16-2025, 11:23 AM

Trump fretting over possibly losing the redistricting fight he started

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Winehole23

11-17-2025, 11:23 AM

Trump admits rigging the 2020 census

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Winehole23

11-18-2025, 01:19 PM

Federal Court strikes down Texas redistricting map, says it's an unconstitutional racial gerrymander

Appeal shortly forthcoming

Winehole23

11-18-2025, 07:20 PM

(apparently the State of Texas submission was very sloppy -- judges don't like that)

Winehole23

11-19-2025, 08:16 AM

Gerrymanders become dummymanders with numbers like this

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Winehole23

11-19-2025, 09:52 AM

Abbott and DOJ blabbing about their racial intent wasn't super smart

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The court went on to note Abbott’s statements as well. Brown then acknowledged that the state and federal executive branch officials statements are not “automatically imputable to the legislature,” but he continued:

Direct evidence in the preliminary-injunction hearing shows that key legislators in the 2025 redistricting process had the same racial objectives as DOJ and the Governor.

https://www.lawdork.com/p/court-blocks-texass-mid-decade-redistricting

Winehole23

11-26-2025, 08:29 AM

Winehole23

11-26-2025, 08:46 AM

Emerson poll | 11/22-11/24 LV

Tennessee’s 7th congressional special election (Trump +22)

(Leaners pushed)
🟥Matt Van Epps 49.4%
🟦Aftyn Behn 47.0%
Others 3.5%

Millennial_Messiah

11-26-2025, 12:57 PM

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https://www.cookpolitical.com/analysis/house/redistricting/three-gop-seats-severe-risk-virginia-democrats-redistricting-push (https://www.cookpolitical.com/analysis/house/redistricting/three-gop-seats-severe-risk-virginia-democrats-redistricting-push)

The Virginia State Supreme court has a conservative majority, so very low chance they allow that to happen especially mid-decade even with a democrat legislate super-trifecta and dem governor. We've seen recently the opposite-sided courts have final says in maps even in spite of very blue states like NY and Maryland and very red states like Kansas and Utah.

As for the Tennessee race, Van Epps will win, but the fact that it will be likely within 10% is alarming, but it is a special election and the dems are the high turnout party in special elections and have been for a decade, really means nothing for 2028 or even 2026.

ChumpDumper

11-28-2025, 08:49 PM

womp-womp

1994510563330985986

https://x.com/PollTracker2024/status/1994510563330985986

Winehole23

11-28-2025, 09:42 PM

Words matter

Millennial_Messiah

11-28-2025, 10:53 PM

Words matter

womp-womp

touchey-feeleyism, emblematic of the Woke West, is indeed retarded and more malignant than stage 4 glioblastoma, and has absolutely zero place in politics. What a fucking moron loser. Maybe it's time to order an execution of this pathetic bohunk with a mangina and have a special election to elect someone who isn't a self-proclaimed male with a throbbing pussy.

this is why 19A, and female suffrage at the states' level before that, was the cancer that opened the proverbial pandora's box. Men vote on common sense and with their wallet, females vote on feelings. Feelings don't belong in politics. Because, facts don't care about feelings.

Winehole23

11-29-2025, 12:22 AM

https://dailyjournal.net/2025/11/26/sen-greg-walker-declines-oval-office-visit-accuses-white-house-of-violating-hatch-act/

Winehole23

11-29-2025, 12:23 AM

(other bad things can start happening when your public approval is under 40%)

Winehole23

11-29-2025, 12:26 AM

touchey-feeleyism, emblematic of the Woke West, is indeed retarded and more malignant than stage 4 glioblastoma, and has absolutely zero place in politics. What a fucking moron loser. Maybe it's time to order an execution of this pathetic bohunk with a mangina and have a special election to elect someone who isn't a self-proclaimed male with a throbbing pussy.

this is why 19A, and female suffrage at the states' level before that, was the cancer that opened the proverbial pandora's box. Men vote on common sense and with their wallet, females vote on feelings. Feelings don't belong in politics.disagree 100%

you're an emotional and mental wreck

Millennial_Messiah

11-29-2025, 01:55 AM

disagree 100%

you're an emotional and mental wreck
Well you have a micropenis and part of a vagina, low testosterone, and high estrogen. Mental wreck? Sure I've gone off about sports before but it's been a long time. I'm one of the most stoic ones here these days.

BadMotorscooter

11-29-2025, 03:42 AM

disagree 100%

you're an emotional and mental wreck

says the dumbass liberal that sits on here night and day posting drivel after drivel about Trump and republicans.....talk about an emotional and mental wreck....:lmao

ChumpDumper

11-29-2025, 04:06 AM

Winehole23

11-29-2025, 12:17 PM

midwestern Republicans talking about Trump like this isn't the best sign

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:z6rujpf4u56jfie7aqic2nfg/bafkreigg3stj5cjcevtxauct7zuaj6f7czlvkkvlckyvzjrkv xc7vx4yaq@jpeghttps://dailyjournal.net/2025/11/26/sen-greg-walker-declines-oval-office-visit-accuses-white-house-of-violating-hatch-act/

Winehole23

11-29-2025, 12:23 PM

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Winehole23

11-29-2025, 02:18 PM

Walker said he would have reported the alleged violation to federal authorities “if I thought that there was anyone of integrity in Washington that would follow through on my accusation and actually cause someone to lose their job over it.”

Winehole23

11-29-2025, 02:22 PM

Well you have a micropenis and part of a vagina, low testosterone, and high estrogen.well you have a very active imagination

Winehole23

11-29-2025, 02:24 PM

do you typically sexualize your narrative when speaking to other men? other posters do this too

lol part of a vagina

Spurs Homer

11-29-2025, 02:27 PM

Well you have a micropenis and part of a vagina, low testosterone, and high estrogen. Mental wreck? Sure I've gone off about sports before but it's been a long time. I'm one of the most stoic ones here these days.

If you were a billionaire and wanted to make sure that idiots out in murica would continue to vote for the rich instead of for their own interests...

you would also gaslight them into fearing others sex parts and sex lives and skin color and "otherness" ...

this way you could continue to screw them while they went to war against - others for no real reason...

this way their attention would be focused on others instead of the pockets you picked clean.

Winehole23

12-08-2025, 07:48 PM

Indiana reverses itself, revives partisan redistricting

Millennial_Messiah

12-08-2025, 09:34 PM

Indiana reverses itself, revives partisan redistricting

We'll see... I think drawing out the Indianapolis district was too much. The Gary district was easy pickings though and should have been drawn-out in 2021.

Winehole23

12-11-2025, 05:24 PM

wow

Indiana Republicans vote down the partisan redistricting bill

Guess they're leary about being seen to knuckle under to a very unpopular president

More Republicans voted against it than for it

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:fzrbbhfjtw3n4smiwsukrj4m/bafkreiezeopn3tvjzqrggiggizjkcqakihcmrwb2nwqnxbxq2 sgdjvnvty@jpeg

Winehole23

12-11-2025, 05:27 PM

backfired

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:2b2gav45qwiqptgmhnksznmv/bafkreic62ozizenjlg5rt3ic2nqvcotycy7ezfokrabdpxozw bcacucqda@jpeg

ChumpDumper

12-11-2025, 05:51 PM

Trump rigged his own census against himself?

Winehole23

12-11-2025, 05:59 PM

Trump rigged his own census against himself?In this case, I think Trump got too far over his skis by threatening to pull all federal funding for Indiana

Extorting proud midwestern Republicans like they were Democrats might have been ill-considered

Winehole23

12-12-2025, 09:53 AM

Jean Leising spoke at a breakfast this fall at her 8th grade grandson’s school. Hours later, when she was set to give him a ride home from basketball practice, he bashfully told her that his entire team had received text messages about her that day — “and they were all bad.”

Recounting the moment to CNN shortly after she joined 20 other Republican state senators in rejecting President Donald Trump’s redistricting push (https://www.cnn.com/2025/12/11/politics/indiana-senate-republicans-redistricting-trump), Leising said she laughed the moment off with her grandson — but that it ultimately led to her opposing the president.

“Boy, when I got home that night, that’s when I decided,” said Leising, a 76-year-old grandmother of eight, first elected to the Senate in 1988. “I was angry. So the next day, I said, ‘I’ve got to talk about this.’ Because this is over the top. This shouldn’t be the way it was.”

“But that was the beginning,” she added. “It only got worse from there.”
https://www.cnn.com/2025/12/11/politics/reasons-indiana-senate-republicans-said-no-trump-redistricting

Winehole23

12-12-2025, 09:54 AM

Sen. Mike Bohacek has a daughter with Down syndrome. He was offended by Trump’s use of a slur for people with disabilities, in a Truth Social post deriding Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, and said that Trump’s “choices of words have consequences.”

Sen. Greg Walker, who represents former Vice President Mike Pence’s hometown of Columbus, said he was among the senators targeted by swatting attempts (https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/21/politics/indiana-governor-lawmakers-swatted-threatened-redistricting) in the weeks leading up to Thursday’s vote. While law enforcement has not publicly linked the swatting or other threats to a political motive, Walker said he felt voting yes would reward wrongdoing and set a dangerous precedent.

Sen. Greg Goode, whose town hall in Terre Haute this fall revealed massive public opposition to mid-decade redistricting, said the new maps would splinter communities with similar interests. He also criticized “over-the-top pressure from inside the Statehouse and outside,” as well as “threats of violence, acts of violence.”

“Whether we realize it or not, whether we accept it or not, the forces that define this vitriolic political affairs in places outside of Indiana have been gradually and now very blatantly infiltrated the political affairs in Indiana,” he said in a speech before the vote.

Winehole23

12-12-2025, 09:55 AM

Sen. Sue Glick, a Republican who took office in 2010, echoed Leising’s comments, citing the violent threats many senators faced.

“Hoosiers are a hardy lot, and they don’t like to be threatened. They don’t like to be intimidated. They don’t like to be bullied in any fashion. And I think a lot of them responded with, ‘That isn’t going to work,’” Glick said. “And it didn’t.”

Winehole23

12-12-2025, 02:25 PM

Indiana Republicans might also have taken into account that if they do the partisan redistricting, at least two bad things could happen

1. If the redistricting is completely successful and Republicans win all the districts, Indiana could be left without any majority representation in the upcoming 120th Congress

2. The redistricting could set the table for a dummymander, resulting in the loss of more than two congressional seats in the midterms

Winehole23

12-13-2025, 01:05 PM

the right-wing stochastic violence machine is largely directed by Trump

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:bkmfse64kqf3yjoqdcs65qto/bafkreide5lflruemqrwsryublxetcghlsdhri7ifycyuchgre de536staq@jpeg

Spurs Homer

12-13-2025, 02:36 PM

lol indiana....

they brag about not being threatened -

hey - here in texas - we have cancun crooze and he would never accept being threatened nor insulted by trump....no oh nvm...

Winehole23

12-16-2025, 08:46 AM

dumb Texas Republicans doing Trump's bidding on redistricting may end up losing seats to Dems

it's not 2024 anymore, Trump's ethnic cleansing is very unpopular with hispanics

When Texas Republicans redrew the state’s congressional map over the summer, they aimed to flip five districts held by Democrats and were guided by the 2024 presidential election results, which showed voters moving to the right.

…
With Hispanic voters showing signs of souring on President Trump in special elections this year and concerns mounting over the cost of living, Democrats believe they could hold on to as many as three of the redrawn seats in Texas, two in the Rio Grande Valley and possibly a third centered in and around San Antonio. The party is also looking at flipping a Republican seat in the Valley, little changed in its partisan makeup by the new map, where a popular Tejano music star is running as a moderate Democrat. (https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/29/us/politics/bobby-pulido.html)https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/10/us/texas-house-redistricting.html

Winehole23

02-06-2026, 11:15 PM

fine when Texas does it, though

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse1.mm.bing.net%2Fth%2Fid%2FOIP. urZMmKsMUUZh31iKP4DYMAHaEK%3Fpid%3DApi&f=1&ipt=f997714bb4696c68add32a9bbc08fc0bb683fd70237b5b 43646dc331a936987e&ipo=images

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Winehole23

02-07-2026, 09:25 AM

Trump created the permission structure for a fight Republicans may very well lose

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:sbdnltkjqzeb5qshxmi7wu2i/bafkreihvq5rfhngxfttrt52layhtrmuwshlzk23ohlnu7meo7 jqsxncofe@jpeg

Winehole23

04-21-2026, 08:02 PM

Virginia redistricting passes

Virginia voters on Tuesday approved a Democratic redistricting plan that could allow the party to pick up as many as four new seats in the midterm elections, NBC News projects.https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2026-election/virginia-voters-approve-democrats-redistricting-plan-giving-party-midt-rcna340895

Winehole23

04-21-2026, 08:07 PM

Winehole23

04-21-2026, 08:24 PM

also, the California redistricting was contingent on Texas going first

FAFO

So much false equivalence in media on gerrymandering in Texas vs California & Virginia. California and Virginia maps approved by the voters. That's a huge difference...

Winehole23

04-21-2026, 08:25 PM

so far

Across the 7 states with new maps:
—11 districts have shifted toward Democrats;
—9 districts have shifted toward the GOP.

Winehole23

04-21-2026, 08:52 PM

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:rbgwij3cs2kf4pugtbn2d3x4/bafkreialbavzlcxxo2t2rxqmldwvubeqpp2yyshdufpfplyuu 6rhzer3sy

Republicans, furious at Democrats for doing thing they wanted to do but couldn’t do, now insist thing they wanted to do is un-American

Winehole23

04-21-2026, 09:01 PM

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Winehole23

04-21-2026, 09:33 PM

:lmao

sore loser Republicans

the retrocession of Alexandria and Arlington was in 1846

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Winehole23

04-22-2026, 09:10 AM

Unlike Texas, VA maps approved by voters
Unlike Texas, VA maps temporary
Unlike Texas, VA maps only drawn in response to other states
Unlike Texas, VA maps not racial gerrymander

TSA

04-23-2026, 11:49 AM

Better get used to Air Bud dunking on your fascist Republican asses, he's just getting warmed up

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:b3psimnw5xxta2n4h5qzxu55/bafkreiftg6hmatvrykqjwvn34xks7nrmgzl5msoxsxy25mh4j 5llyz6a7q

:rollin Void ab initio :rollin

According to court documents obtained by 8News, on Wednesday, April 22, Tazewell Circuit Court Judge Jack Hurley ruled that Virginia Democrats’ efforts to redraw the state’s congressional map mid-decade were illegal on multiple counts.

He further declared that Virginia cannot certify the results of the referendum held on Tuesday, April 21 and that legislators cannot take any action to implement the new map.

Hurley ruled entirely in favor of the RNC, NRCC and the two GOP congressmen. According to Hurley, Virginia Democrats’ efforts were illegal for a number of reasons.

Per court documents, Virginia Democrats advanced the proposal during the 2024 Special Session of the General Assembly — however, there are strict rules as to what kind of legislation can be considered during these types of sessions. Democrats reportedly violated those rules. As a result, any actions taken to advance the plan would be deemed illegal.

Further, Virginia’s constitution dictates that a constitutional amendment like this one is supposed to be passed by two different General Assemblies — with a general election taking place in between — before it is passed down to voters. This did not happen, per the judge.

Additionally, the election should have begun no earlier than ninety days after the amendment was passed by the General Assembly. Instead, it began on March 6, when the bill was only passed in early February.

Hurley also ruled that the ballot language given to voters was “flagrantly misleading” and “did not accurately describe the proposed amendment.” That ballot language was as follows:

“Question: Should the Constitution of Virginia be amended to allow the General Assembly to temporarily adopt new congressional districts to restore fairness in the upcoming elections, while ensuring Virginia’s standard redistricting process resumes for all future redistricting after the 2030 census?”

As a result, Hurley ruled that all of the votes cast on Tuesday are “ineffective” and that the Virginia Department of Elections is not to certify the special election’s results. He further declared that no actions can be taken to enact the proposal and redraw Virginia’s congressional map.

https://www.wric.com/news/politics/capitol-connection/tazewell-judge-ruling-redistricting-results/

Better get used to Air Bud dunking on your fascist Republican asses, he's just getting warmed up

https://dogsofaustralia.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/funny-golden-retriever-meme.jpg

:lmao
:lmao
:lmao

ChumpDumper

04-23-2026, 12:04 PM

Judge shopping.

Dude tried to stop the vote initially and got his shit pushed in.

Next stop, Virginia Supreme Court.

If you lose again, it will just be another thing you'll shut up about forever.

Shall I ask you why you were so wrong about Iran?

And minesweepers?

And Epstein?

And tariffs?

And inflation?

lol

Winehole23

04-23-2026, 10:33 PM

Republicans are all for constitutional hardball until the other side starts playing to win

Then they cry like small children

TSA

04-29-2026, 11:03 AM

FAFO

so far

Across the 7 states with new maps:
—11 districts have shifted toward Democrats;
—9 districts have shifted toward the GOP.

https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/2049496427026637220

:rollin

Republicans are all for constitutional hardball until the other side starts playing to win

Then they cry like small children

:rollin

https://x.com/SenatorAndyKim/status/2049504077323612628

https://x.com/amyklobuchar/status/2049515217353126130

https://x.com/RepHoulahan/status/2049510904316784785

https://x.com/CAgovernor/status/2049516447379194159

https://x.com/RepMikeLevin/status/2049505538161918169

https://x.com/RepBeccaB/status/2049506592828072189

https://x.com/grahamformaine/status/2049511514042769857

https://x.com/Rep_Stansbury/status/2049497733896024120
:cry :cry :cry
:rollin

ChumpDumper

04-29-2026, 11:10 AM

TSA loves racial discrimination.

ChumpDumper

04-29-2026, 11:15 AM

And he shut the fuck up about Iran.

TSA

04-29-2026, 12:36 PM

Better get used to Air Bud dunking on your fascist Republican asses, he's just getting warmed up

https://x.com/nicksortor/status/2049517983228215628

https://x.com/scotus_wire/status/2048768909428290000

https://x.com/WHSVnews/status/2049511586469966155

:rollin

ChumpDumper

04-29-2026, 12:58 PM

Never seen someone so happy his Republican party is in such dire straits they have to resort to mid term redistricting out of abject fear of voters.

TSA

04-29-2026, 01:17 PM

Republicans are all for constitutional hardball until the other side starts playing to win

Then they cry like small children

https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/2049540211139547583

:rollin

Blake

04-29-2026, 01:22 PM

TSA loves racial discrimination.

ChumpDumper

04-29-2026, 01:30 PM

https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/2049540211139547583

:rollinNot exactly J6.

Remember how mad you were that day?

:rollin

Blake

04-29-2026, 05:18 PM

Not exactly J6.

Remember how mad you were that day?

:rollin

No they don't. J6 has been forgiven and forgotten by Trump Christ.

Blake

04-29-2026, 05:45 PM

Winehole23

04-29-2026, 05:52 PM

TSA doesn't really do reflection

His template is to shit his pants, yell, then disappear until the next time he shits his pants

TSA

04-30-2026, 12:35 PM

Does tsa really believe he's better off today than he was when Biden was president?

He'll never admit that he hates prices going sky high. He'll also never admit he's wrong about all these threads he's avoiding.

I know for a fact I'm better off today than I was when Biden was President, and more people feel that way now then was Biden was President.

I know your reading comprehension is abysmal so I found a chart for you that even has colored lines to make it easier for you to understand.

https://x.com/ByronYork/status/2049629929717821830

See the big gap between the orange and blue lines during Biden's Presidency? See the narrower gap between the orange and blue lines during Trump's Presidency? Notice how the orange line is moving down and the blue line is moving up since Biden left office? What can you gather from this chart?

58% of people are saying they are just as well off or doing better under the Trump Presidency. Even more of your fellow D's are saying their financial situation is getting better under Trump than it was under Biden. With all of the constant crying you do about rising fuel costs it's clear to me now that you have found yourself in the minority of people who feel they are doing worse off financially because you are stuck at your job as an Uber/Lyft driver and have no other meaningful skills to get any other type of job.

Th'Pusher

04-30-2026, 12:58 PM

I know for a fact I'm better off today than I was when Biden was President, and more people feel that way now then was Biden was President.

I know your reading comprehension is abysmal so I found a chart for you that even has colored lines to make it easier for you to understand.

https://x.com/ByronYork/status/2049629929717821830

See the big gap between the orange and blue lines during Biden's Presidency? See the narrower gap between the orange and blue lines during Trump's Presidency? Notice how the orange line is moving down and the blue line is moving up since Biden left office? What can you gather from this chart?

58% of people are saying they are just as well off or doing better under the Trump Presidency. Even more of your fellow D's are saying their financial situation is getting better under Trump than it was under Biden. With all of the constant crying you do about rising fuel costs it's clear to me now that you have found yourself in the minority of people who feel they are doing worse off financially because you are stuck at your job as an Uber/Lyft driver and have no other meaningful skills to get any other type of job.

Then why are republicans having to gerrymander districts to try and hang on to control? Seems they should be overwhelmingly voted back in since they’ve been such great stewards of the economy and everyone is so pleased with the outcome

TSA

04-30-2026, 01:09 PM

ChumpDumper

04-30-2026, 01:59 PM

TSA has never actually said he's in favor of this new war.

No Trumptard has.

They either know the worst is yet to come or they don't.

But it's well on its way if Trump doesn't open the strait yesterday like he said he would last month.

ChumpDumper

04-30-2026, 02:02 PM

Simple, TDS.

Your theory is now even Republicans have TDS.

My theory is even simpler; you're in a cult of personality but Trump is so bad at literally every facet of governing the even your fellow cult members are realizing he sucks worse than Biden ever did.

Blake

04-30-2026, 03:39 PM

Blake

04-30-2026, 03:55 PM

I know for a fact I'm better off today than I was when Biden was President, and more people feel that way now then was Biden was President.

I know your reading comprehension is abysmal so I found a chart for you that even has colored lines to make it easier for you to understand.

https://x.com/ByronYork/status/2049629929717821830

See the big gap between the orange and blue lines during Biden's Presidency? See the narrower gap between the orange and blue lines during Trump's Presidency? Notice how the orange line is moving down and the blue line is moving up since Biden left office? What can you gather from this chart?

58% of people are saying they are just as well off or doing better under the Trump Presidency. Even more of your fellow D's are saying their financial situation is getting better under Trump than it was under Biden. With all of the constant crying you do about rising fuel costs it's clear to me now that you have found yourself in the minority of people who feel they are doing worse off financially because you are stuck at your job as an Uber/Lyft driver and have no other meaningful skills to get any other type of job.

Lol "for a fact".

Bullshit.

But hey I can throw out cherry picking polls too:

As the Iran war spills over into everyday life, more Americans say they are worse off today than at most any point in the past 25 years.

More than half – 55% – say their financial situation is deteriorating, according to a new Gallup poll.

While that figure is similar to the slumping sentiment Gallup registered last year, the ranks of the disaffected have grown. Only 47% of Americans were bummed about the economy in 2024.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2026/04/29/financial-crunch-cost-of-living-housing-gas-healthcare/89840733007/

TSA

04-30-2026, 04:35 PM

Lol "for a fact".

Bullshit.

But hey I can throw out cherry picking polls too:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2026/04/29/financial-crunch-cost-of-living-housing-gas-healthcare/89840733007/

Gallup polls once a year and you're trying to compare that to a poll that asks the same question every month? :lol fucking moron. Remember when you were simping for Ann Selzer and her final Iowa poll? :lol fucking moron.

Questions pending pussy.

"See the big gap between the orange and blue lines during Biden's Presidency? See the narrower gap between the orange and blue lines during Trump's Presidency? Notice how the orange line is moving down and the blue line is moving up since Biden left office? What can you gather from this chart?"

TSA

04-30-2026, 04:36 PM

Remember when tsa asked "does the Strait need to be opened, yes or no?"

Your memory is as bad as your understanding of the economy.

ChumpDumper

04-30-2026, 04:40 PM

Your memory is as bad as your understanding of the economy.
You probably said something completely idiotic like "Do we need the strait open?"

My answer is a plain yes but you're such a coward you can't bear to hear your question answered.

:lmao "questions pending"

Even when you get answers you pretend you don't.

Blake

04-30-2026, 04:47 PM

Your memory is as bad as your understanding of the economy.

Do we need the straight open or do they need the straight open?

Close enough. Answer your question in your own words.

Winehole23

04-30-2026, 04:47 PM

stripping black folks' representation in Louisiana so urgently needed that the Gov. Landry has declared a STATE OF EMERGENCY

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:pjiafkey2cokiupsxpswqlk7/bafkreibwvxzioco6wrnixehzgqsuxsvi7k7yac7njyjfgzan3 xfsoxplva

Winehole23

04-30-2026, 07:21 PM

Then why are republicans having to gerrymander districts to try and hang on to control? Seems they should be overwhelmingly voted back in since they’ve been such great stewards of the economy and everyone is so pleased with the outcomeThe economy wasn't as bad under Biden as people said and something similar is true of Trump now. But accumulated/accumulating inflation really pisses people off.

Biden was more or less saddled with the aftermath of countercyclical spending (glad Trump and Biden both did it) and a chaotic supply crunch (not Trump's fault) that started under Trump.

By contrast, Trump is intentionally mashing buttons (global tariffs and war in the Persian Gulf) that make prices go up.

Winehole23

04-30-2026, 07:42 PM

Blake

04-30-2026, 07:44 PM

The economy wasn't as bad under Biden as people said and something similar is true of Trump now. But accumulated/accumulating inflation really pisses people off.

Biden was more or less saddled with the aftermath of countercyclical spending (glad Trump and Biden both did it) and a chaotic supply crunch (not Trump's fault) that started under Trump.

By contrast, Trump is intentionally mashing buttons (global tariffs and war in the Persian Gulf) that make prices go up.

Biden was also gifted Trump's covid mess but Trump tards always leave that out.

Winehole23

04-30-2026, 08:12 PM

Biden was also gifted Trump's covid mess but Trump tards always leave that out."who was president in 2020?" is still a major point of confusion

Winehole23

04-30-2026, 08:17 PM

I think TSA has a point that Trump's poll ratings are not 1:1 correlated with the polled question

One hypothesis is that Trump's detractors are delusional or irrationally biased

Another is that Trump offers so many handles for fact-based dissatisfaction that they all start to blur together -- a bad gestalt

Winehole23

04-30-2026, 08:20 PM

100,000 absentee ballots were already cast in Louisiana

do all those get sh!tcanned now?

Blake

04-30-2026, 08:28 PM

Winehole23

04-30-2026, 08:34 PM

I think both of those and a number of other possible hypotheses can all be trueit's weird how many things can be true at once but people insist on limiting truth to exactly what they want to say at a particular time

Winehole23

05-01-2026, 01:32 AM

Millennial_Messiah

05-07-2026, 06:24 PM

Memphis got drawn out too! Will Hunting (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=17032)

I told ya this would happen, like 5 years ago tbh #basedSCOTUS

no crying when Dems do it back to y'all
Abigail "Jezebel" Scamberger started it, tbh.

ChumpDumper

05-07-2026, 06:27 PM

Memphis got drawn out too! Will Hunting (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=17032)

I told ya this would happen, like 5 years ago tbh #basedSCOTUS

Abigail "Jezebel" Scamberger started it, tbh.
Except no.

Winehole23

05-08-2026, 12:01 AM

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:qrllvid7s54k4hnwtqxwetrf/bafkreih4s6asqluzn74mbhmf2gx3swl3moygz4iixbkxkc2wq 2fvggtgau

The Sargent at Arms blocks Representative Justin Pearson from Memphis from entering a committee meeting about redrawing the map specifically for the district he represents.https://www.tennessean.com/picture-gallery/news/politics/legislature/2026/05/06/photos-redistricting-special-session-day-2/89959862007/

Winehole23

05-08-2026, 12:19 AM

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:2wyqv44lm72vasmddeqjgy72/bafkreihtkyc3vv6e6upbipxrvudklunu4zkd3mgp5btuksa3u z5ocr3nka

TSA

05-08-2026, 10:24 AM

TSA

05-08-2026, 01:10 PM

backfired

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:2b2gav45qwiqptgmhnksznmv/bafkreic62ozizenjlg5rt3ic2nqvcotycy7ezfokrabdpxozw bcacucqda@jpeg

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse1.mm.bing.net%2Fth%2Fid%2FOIP. urZMmKsMUUZh31iKP4DYMAHaEK%3Fpid%3DApi&f=1&ipt=f997714bb4696c68add32a9bbc08fc0bb683fd70237b5b 43646dc331a936987e&ipo=images

Trump exacts revenge in Indiana over redistricting vote, with five GOP legislators defeated

A majority of the seven state senators on the ballot Tuesday who faced Trump-backed challengers lost their primaries, NBC News projects.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2026-election/indiana-legislators-primary-election-trump-redistricting-state-senate-rcna343321?cid=eml_nbn_20260505&user_email=1ce3cb3ffccd933d8da1d6690d8e26612b4688b 4c1b85309fc3942e15837424c&utm_campaign=breakingnews

:lmao

Yonivore

05-08-2026, 01:10 PM

And, with many Red states following up with CONSTITUTIONAL redistricting plans of their own, it appears the GOP appears to gain 11+ seats in the mid-term. And, that's not even counting the RINOs being replaced in Indiana and Ohio. Anything can happen but, when you examine just the result of the Tennessee redistricting, wherein an old White Male Democrat is probably going to be replaced by a Black Female Republican, you have to wonder why it took so long for the Republican Party to figure out the Democrat gerrymandering wasn't intended to give minorities a vote, it was intended to keep Democrats in power and minorities on the Democrat Plantation.

Thank GOD for the U. S. Supreme Court in their Louisiana v. Callais decision (USSC Justice Clarence Thomas's concurring opinion is a must read if you want to understand how racist Democrat gerrymandering has been since the passage of the VRA and their bastardization of Section 2.

This country may finally be waking up!

Blake

05-08-2026, 01:11 PM

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse1.mm.bing.net%2Fth%2Fid%2FOIP. urZMmKsMUUZh31iKP4DYMAHaEK%3Fpid%3DApi&f=1&ipt=f997714bb4696c68add32a9bbc08fc0bb683fd70237b5b 43646dc331a936987e&ipo=images

Trump exacts revenge in Indiana over redistricting vote, with five GOP legislators defeated

A majority of the seven state senators on the ballot Tuesday who faced Trump-backed challengers lost their primaries, NBC News projects.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2026-election/indiana-legislators-primary-election-trump-redistricting-state-senate-rcna343321?cid=eml_nbn_20260505&user_email=1ce3cb3ffccd933d8da1d6690d8e26612b4688b 4c1b85309fc3942e15837424c&utm_campaign=breakingnews

:lmao

Why do you cheer and bootlick so hard for a felon that you say you didn't vote for?

Yonivore

05-08-2026, 01:13 PM

approximately proportionate representation is too much, that's anti-white racism

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:fyiewxa4e3dpd5sdp4gcwr5m/bafkreiglxqmv7tbg2kqrrtapidlbb6jkehhvftb6c5zraksf2 ginbxi6ze

Interesting how the redistricting plan in Tennessee will probably lead to 1 more minority Congresswoman and 1 less white Congressman.

Maybe it's not about race, Winehole.

ChumpDumper

05-08-2026, 01:16 PM

Yonivore

05-08-2026, 01:18 PM

The big plus here is that Spanberger and the Democrats pulled out all the stops (spending about $100 Million of their dollars and $5 Million of their taxpayer's dollars) to pass this piece of shit legislation that couldn't even pass muster for their own fucking Supreme Court. The political capital spent by Hakim Jeffries, Barack Obama, and other stars of the Democrat Party wasn't enough lipstick on that pig to make it appealing. Hell, it only passed 51 to 49, after all that.

Too funny.

ChumpDumper

05-08-2026, 01:18 PM

yoni shut the fuck up about everything else and comes crawling back when he thinks he's got a win.

:lmao

Never forget what this moron said about W:

I believe the man still belongs on Mt. Rushmore. I also believe the further into history he presidency travels, the more it will be realized just how successful his presidency was.

You all will be laughing stocks.

Blake

05-08-2026, 01:31 PM

Blake

05-08-2026, 01:36 PM

yoni shut the fuck up about everything else and comes crawling back when he thinks he's got a win.

:lmao

Never forget what this moron said about W:

:lol LAUGHING STOCKS I SAID. LAUGHING. STOCKS.

Yonivore

05-08-2026, 03:15 PM

https://i.ibb.co/JjF5H08y/CDB-CH.png (https://ibb.co/Dfg5Qsm8)

Yonivore

05-08-2026, 03:25 PM

Yonivore

05-08-2026, 03:34 PM

https://i.ibb.co/Kk7nGKL/jerry-and-kramer.png (https://ibb.co/RmP8SjB)

Blake

05-08-2026, 04:01 PM

:lol LAUGHING STOCKS I SAID. LAUGHING. STOCKS.

https://i.ibb.co/JjF5H08y/CDB-CH.png (https://ibb.co/Dfg5Qsm8)

Blake

05-08-2026, 04:17 PM

https://i.ibb.co/Kk7nGKL/jerry-and-kramer.png (https://ibb.co/RmP8SjB)

Sounds about right

1793849479738839154

ChumpDumper

05-08-2026, 04:46 PM

yoni hasn't said whether he's a neocon again.

What is he afraid of?

He's afraid of us.:lol

Yonivore

05-08-2026, 05:51 PM

Are you two the only people left in this forum?

Millennial_Messiah

05-08-2026, 06:37 PM

BASED VIRGINIA YOUNGKIN SUPREME COURT!!!! BASED SCOTUS!!!! BASED TENNESSEE, LOUISIANA, ALABAMA AND FLORIDA GOP!!!!!

Blake

05-08-2026, 06:55 PM

Are you two the only people left in this forum?

Here you are posting funny template jpgs and posting gibberish

ChumpDumper

05-08-2026, 07:39 PM

Are you two the only people left in this forum?
All you pussies left when you realized Trump fucked you again.

Question for you: Are you a neocon again after disavowing your George W. Rushmore?

Millennial_Messiah

05-08-2026, 07:40 PM

I don't see Mike Lawler, Tom Kean, Zach Nunn, Tom Barrett, (all strong incumbents) or MI-10 (very pro-Trump district and Michigan at the Governor and Senate levels in 2026 is shaping to be a disaster for Democrats) flipping, and the Florida copium is laughable (they're getting all 4 of their flips on the DeSantis gerrymander). Oh, and Alabama and Louisiana are, at minimum, reverting back to the 2022 maps so another 2 blue seats flip back red there. Oh and don't ever underestimate Valadao, he's a tough out and that seat went for Trump and it's even redder in midterms. The ME-02 election with LePage won't really be close especially with Susan Collins on the ballot.

AZ-01 is redder than Ciscomani's seat but I give it a 50/50 shot to flip especially if the GOP governor candidate is another Kari Lake type. Juan Ciscomani, Marianette Miller-Meeks, and Van Orden (WI-03) are fairly weak incumbents so they could lose their seats, Scott Perry in PA-10 is a stronger incumbent but his seat includes all of Harrisburg and is trending blue so he could lose (similar goes for Jen Kiggans in VA-02), Henry Cuellar (TX-28) should hold his district, and Gonzalez (TX-34) probably a 60% chance to hold on over Eric Flores (much better challenger than Mayra Flores). Marie Perez will hold in WA-03. The PA seat that used to belong to Susan Wild is a pure toss-up.

Millennial_Messiah

05-08-2026, 07:41 PM

All you pussies left when you realized Trump fucked you again.

ummmm, this site was glitched out for about ~60-70% of 2025 and about 20% of 2026 so far. It's pretty hard to remain active on a forum when it's literally giving you 403 and 404 errors every other time you think to write something online.

ChumpDumper

05-08-2026, 07:43 PM

ummmm, this site was glitched out for about ~60-70% of 2025 and about 20% of 2026 so far. It's pretty hard to remain active on a forum when it's literally giving you 403 and 404 errors every other time you think to write something online.

I'm sure you were trying every couple of days during Trump's war.

Millennial_Messiah

05-08-2026, 07:43 PM

Another Democrat Dick Sucker for Redistricting goes dow...er, resigns.

https://x.com/KatieMcKellar1/status/2052807720710103271

Context:

Utah leaders to probe relationship between Supreme Court justice, redistricting lawyer
(https://www.ksl.com/article/51484594/utah-leaders-to-probe-relationship-between-supreme-court-justice-redistricting-lawyer)

https://img.ksl.com/slc/3153/315319/31531970.jpeg?filter=kslv2/responsive_story_lg&v=1776439738

yeah, and she was the deciding vote on drawing that tiny little deep-blue district in Utah centered on the ghetto parts of SLC and its inner suburbs.

still think it's a fair map and unlikely it's overturned over a sex scandal. Good news is Utah gets an extra district next census and it's guaranteed to be a red district now.

Millennial_Messiah

05-08-2026, 07:44 PM

I'm sure you were trying every couple of days during Trump's war.

I'm very adamant about being against the Iran war. My net worth has shrunk over 75% thanks to a combination of Trump's false promises on crypto and bank timing.

I'm with Tucker Carlson 100%. Candace Owens, Megyn Kelly, et al. Carlson-Owens 2028, even if it's third party, definitely anyone over Vance. Even Newsom over Vance tbh for me.

Not Nick Fuentes, that guy is a proud incel and a self-defeatist loser.

ChumpDumper

05-08-2026, 07:45 PM

:lol yoni genuinely upset at the thought of a white woman sucking dick

Winehole23

05-08-2026, 09:34 PM

Interesting how the redistricting plan in Tennessee will probably lead to 1 more minority Congresswoman and 1 less white Congressman.

Maybe it's not about race, Winehole.Sure it is, just look at the results

Numerous states immediately started stripping black folks of representation

Florida votes against gerrymandering, state supreme court nulllifies the will of the people in favor of Republicans

Virginia votes for redistricting, state Supreme Court nullifies the will of the voters in favor of Republicans

Fwiw, Virginia can still just pass the intended redistricting into law, like FL, AL, TN and LA just did

Winehole23

05-08-2026, 09:36 PM

Ohio lege ignored Ohio Supreme court rulings on illegal maps in 2020 and 2022, presumably blue state governments have that option too

Winehole23

05-08-2026, 09:38 PM

none of this last minute partisan Republican redistricting is going to make Republicans more appealing in a wave election

y'all are dummymandering into a blue tsunami

Winehole23

05-08-2026, 09:40 PM

telling black folks and Hispanics that their votes don't count unless they vote for Republicans is not a winning strategy, imho

Winehole23

05-08-2026, 09:52 PM

Virginia can also retire the Virginia Supreme Court by lowering the retirement age

Time for Dems to go full sicko mode on you bastards

Article VI, Section 9 (https://law.lis.virginia.gov/constitution/article6/section9/), of the Virginia Constitution gives the legislature unlimited authority to set the retirement age for judges. It specifies, “The General Assembly may also provide for the mandatory retirement of justices and judges after they reach a prescribed age, beyond which they shall not serve, regardless of the term to which elected or appointed.”https://www.the-downballot.com/p/how-virginia-democrats-can-overturn

Winehole23

05-08-2026, 10:17 PM

day 12 of early voting in GA

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:zuddhk7vlinxj3374rzcv7p5/bafkreieycg73olvfw4n64c5gpwlhiheqbg7hwrznp5arxyitv oji6ju4fe

Yonivore

05-08-2026, 10:34 PM

Ohio ignored Supreme court rulings on illegal maps in 2020 and 2022, presumably blue state governments have that option too

Don't know what you're talking about but, apparently not.

Winehole23

05-08-2026, 11:07 PM

facially race-neutral redistricting to eliminate black representation is some real Redemption shit

reading the 14th and 15th Amendments (contrary to the plain, original language) as color-blind has roughly the same effect as deciding not to enforce them, as from 1880-1965

we only had multiracial democracy in this country for 60 or so years after Redemption, and only about a decade before that

red states and a radical Republican Supreme Court are tending to put an end to that right now

Winehole23

05-08-2026, 11:10 PM

Don't know what you're talking about but, apparently not.posted in another tread, I'll see if I can find it if you're too lazy :lol

try Ohio Supreme Court as search terms

I might be a little off on the dates, but iirc, Ohio was intentionally delaying passing illegal maps, so that it would be too late to overturn them once challenged in court

Winehole23

05-08-2026, 11:11 PM

kicker: even when the Ohio Supreme Court repeatedly ruled against the Ohio legislature

Ohio just ignored them and ran elections based on illegal maps

Winehole23

05-08-2026, 11:30 PM

Winehole23

05-08-2026, 11:44 PM

(from the Virginia ruling)

"Not only can dogs play basketball, you have to beat the dog by 25 pts or it doesn't count and the dog wins"

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:e6n7jxtu2qrhwvp3j6ib6sq6/bafkreib6uqfr5t7cpko7sd7rqohzdcohfj5kkl2f3fbgh572t bp6gwv6jyhttps://www.vacourts.gov/static/opinions/opnscvwp/1260127.pdf

Winehole23

05-08-2026, 11:57 PM

like this, Yoni

https://www.cleveland.com/news/2022/06/republicans-ignore-redistricting-order-from-ohio-supreme-court-signaling-they-intend-to-run-out-the-clock.html

Winehole23

05-09-2026, 12:11 AM

(from the Virginia ruling)

https://www.vacourts.gov/static/opinions/opnscvwp/1260127.pdfthe dissent thinks the majority wields a creative definition of "election" under VA law

Anyway, then the justices go on to discuss Virginia’s constitutional amendment process, which is pretty straightforward (https://law.lis.virginia.gov/constitution/article12/section1/):

An amendment must pass a majority of both the House and Senate once, then there must be a House of Delegates (read: any odd year) election, and then the amendment has to pass the full legislature again before voters get to approve or reject it at the ballot box.

But then the real bullshit starts.

The four justices then go on to blithely redefine “election” as something entirely separate from “election day.”

Given that the actual text of the Virginia constitution and state code in no way make this distinction, the rest of the majority opinion involves some legal acrobatics to justify their creativity.

But, fwiw, the dissent (https://www.vacourts.gov/static/opinions/opnscvwp/1260127.pdf) claps back pretty hard.

On page 30 of the opinion (https://www.vacourts.gov/static/opinions/opnscvwp/1260127.pdf), the dissenting three justices break out the switches and spank their colleagues for their obvious wrongness:

... today the majority has broadened the meaning of the word “election,” as used in the Virginia Constitution, to include the early voting period. This is in direct conflict with how both Virginia and federal law define an election.

These justices saw the majority’s legal acrobatics and called them out for what they were.

By focusing on the legislative history, dictionary definitions, and how legal scholars might interpret the term “election,” the majority fails to apply the most basic tenet of interpretation of constitutional provisions: looking to the language of the constitution itself.

Then the minority points out that the early voting period the majority justices up and decided now count as part of the “election” can’t actually exist without defining the election as one day.

Under the plain language of the statute, early voting begins “on the forty-fifth day prior to any election and shall continue until 5:00 p.m. on the Saturday immediately preceding the election.” Code § 24.2-701.1(A) (emphasis added).

https://statehouseaction.substack.com/p/virginias-supreme-court-goes-full

Winehole23

05-09-2026, 09:29 AM

"shut up boy"

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DYFyMVroxWl/?igsh=MTlwN2d3aTNuc25kaQ%3D%3D

Winehole23

05-09-2026, 10:52 AM

Sounds about right

1793849479738839154old enough to vote and enlist in the US armed forces, but not to walk into a bar

Winehole23

05-09-2026, 01:26 PM

"If you resurrected Ulysses S. Grant...and told him, 'hey, the Supreme Court is nullifying the 15th Amendment again'...he would be like, 'yeah, that sounds right.' He'd probably be surprised it was Republicans, but that's about it."

Winehole23

05-09-2026, 01:28 PM

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:skf244z64dfa5yvynksq65ij/bafkreidtqb2ibmk4zgecqo5fkzbfegdunwifjhgfrtlxefzvx qfmg35qiu

Winehole23

05-09-2026, 01:29 PM

South Carolina is 26% black. Louisiana is 33%. Mississippi is 37%.

Winehole23

05-09-2026, 01:32 PM

the white people party can do partisan redistricting, but Democrats can't

Blake

05-09-2026, 03:24 PM

All you pussies left when you realized Trump fucked you again.

Question for you: Are you a neocon again after disavowing your George W. Rushmore?

Himself is the only person he wants to talk to here

Yonivore

05-09-2026, 07:48 PM

like this, Yoni

https://www.cleveland.com/news/2022/06/republicans-ignore-redistricting-order-from-ohio-supreme-court-signaling-they-intend-to-run-out-the-clock.html

I guess we'll see what happens.

How is Virginia different than the Red states engaging in redistricting now?

Virginia wanted to Virtue Signal that they were anti-gerrymandering (which they're not, they just wanted to lock in the current gerrymander they approved of) so, a couple of years back, they passed a constitutional amendment limiting gerrymandering.

Then, just to show the left believes in nothing they claim to believe, they attempted to undo that amendment through a rushed and unconstitutional process.

The other states always left this power in the hands of the legislature, so the legislature is able to change the maps with a vote.

Another stupid objection they keep on making: If this process was deficient from the very beginning -- which the Court ruled it was -- why didn't the Court make this ruling earlier?

This is a hilarious one. The Virginia Supreme Court was going to rule on whether this process was adequate or defective -- but the Democrats pushing the new map insisted that it was illegal for the Court to rule on the referendum before the referendum had been voted on and was entirely concluded.

The Democrats themselves insisted that the Court had no power to rule on this except after the referendum was voted on and was in the process of being implemented.

The Court read the Democrats' arguments and... agreed.

From the ruling that bitch-slapped Virginia Democrats, Obama, and Jeffries.

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/timingdemocrat.png

Blake

05-09-2026, 11:28 PM

Himself is the only person he wants to talk to here

:lol so he did read my post and is now pretending to have a serious conversation with Winehole about how Trump and Republicans are the good and decent politicians doing what's best for America.

ChumpDumper

05-10-2026, 12:27 AM

yoni really wants slavery back.

Or just apartheid.

Whatever works.

Winehole23

05-10-2026, 12:32 AM

the same set of facts were before the VA Supreme Court before the vote and they let the vote go forward

the only thing different after the vote was Republicans lost the vote

Millennial_Messiah

05-10-2026, 09:37 PM

the same set of facts were before the VA Supreme Court before the vote and they let the vote go forward

the only thing different after the vote was Republicans lost the vote
overturning your own state constitution on a dime with a well-timed off-season ballot measure in the first place is what's bullshit. same for California. Only difference is the California supreme court is stacked with far left yes men and women 100% appointed by Democrat governors and approved by the deep-blue Democrat state trifecta there. In Virginia the state supreme court is stacked with moderates because before the end of 2025 the Dems never really had a strong trifecta.

Millennial_Messiah

05-10-2026, 09:39 PM

yoni really wants slavery back.

Or just apartheid.

Whatever works.
Neither.

He wants more black people to vote Republican and be more like White Republicans in terms of partisan ideology and the way they vote.

He isn't against black people because of their skin color.

He is against the white leftists brainwashing blacks into voting with them since the three-fifths era. The whole plot of "Get Out" was rich white/white jew liberals enslaving black people and taking over their bodies. It's commonplace. White liberals don't give two shits about black people beyond the extent of their votes. They never have and never will.

Winehole23

05-11-2026, 09:02 PM

Rep. Ralph Norman: "Jim Clyburn, I like him personally, but he does not represent the rest of South Carolina, which is conservative. His district is close to 47% African American."redistricted at 0%-9% strength, that's democracy now?

Winehole23

05-12-2026, 10:52 AM

if polling like this is anywhere close to predictive for November, it doesn't really matter what Rs do

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:r2wew37repqtwhf63wysczrn/bafkreifozx2fnhlmdke4bkvh23zzu5ujspw6faoxcp6ktgyu2 e2qefoq7i

Millennial_Messiah

05-12-2026, 03:28 PM

if polling like this is anywhere close to predictive for November, it doesn't really matter what Rs do

Yeah we saw the exact inverse in May 2022 a month before Dobbs, and then gas prices and inflation went down by October and the dems saved face

I think something similar happens this year. More likely to be 2022 in reverse than 2006 all over again. 2006 was pre polarization.

Winehole23

05-12-2026, 10:46 PM

crazypants retaliation for -- being the minority and opposing racist redistricting?

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:pmve46444ieqvq7sqvqqdlfd/bafkreiemnsuq4s6rs7wflcwkefquyjypf22ak77f54fhgvytl 3vgbvzsya

Winehole23

05-13-2026, 04:06 PM

Watching a series of former Confederate states rush to eliminate any vestige of black representation in the House pretty much answers the question whether the Voting Rights Act was still necessary.

Winehole23

05-14-2026, 07:04 AM

SCOTUS said Callais didn't touch the judgment in Allen, but remanded it anyway with predictable results

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:kjklbsuepdppuppsfluytydl/bafkreiehupkyd4b2w2rgk6fgigdlxordfjsto5qfioybtx5ra wuzrz5hmmhttps://ballsandstrikes.org/law-politics/alabama-redistricting-supreme-court-purcell/

Winehole23

05-14-2026, 07:05 AM

The lower court did not reach its conclusion lightly: Last May, a three-judge Alabama district court panel held an 11-day trial featuring dozens of witnesses and hundreds of exhibits before it explained, in a unanimous 268-page opinion (https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/25/25-273/373706/20250904144451751_Appendix%20-%20Vol.%20I.pdf), that “try as we might, we cannot understand the 2023 Plan as anything other than an intentional effort to dilute Black Alabamians’ voting strength.”

Winehole23

05-14-2026, 07:16 AM

it’s facially insane that the SCOTUS’s position is that the interest of a political party—an entity with no special constitutional protection—in gerrymandering is more important than black people’s right to vote

Winehole23

05-14-2026, 08:16 AM

there's no Purcell principle if Republicans stand to gain by last minute redistricting

https://www.cbsnews.com/atlanta/news/brian-kemp-georgia-special-session-redistricting-supreme-court-ruling-2028-maps/

Winehole23

05-17-2026, 09:35 AM

Winehole23

05-18-2026, 08:22 AM

if the edge for Dems is +11 in November, it's pretty much armageddon for Rs

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:2amnkge5a6hplfwyesmxqkfl/bafkreigw266k7wzpfsbkqp4w5kogliiuk2wefwyeh5tfsurrv hcqcww6yahttps://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:2amnkge5a6hplfwyesmxqkfl/bafkreigbujlkv7wmqgshfrgotzt7fkomos4m743gky4mad4af ows44nvru

Millennial_Messiah

05-18-2026, 08:05 PM

large demonstrations in Selma and Montgomery

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:2tjnqjbnqampayvk4hez7q3h/bafkreiecaylpo7sylyw5k66wjkehprc5dbveby57zpx35wqqu 6rmoym4ly

https://www.al.com/news/birmingham/2026/05/church-buses-and-charter-buses-are-heading-to-selma-and-montgomery-for-a-reclamation-of-power.html

It was literally 1 Democrat in the House in Alabama for decades, the fact some woke leftist District judge forced the GOP to draw out one of their own on racist terms and create a 2nd out of thin air after 20+ years of tradition is fucking ridiculous.

The GOP is simply returning the map to normalcy.

Winehole23

05-26-2026, 08:42 AM

Jim Crow normalcy -- no representation for a third of the population of the state

Winehole23

05-26-2026, 08:45 AM

two Trump-appointed judges on this panel

court extends the stay on the illegal racial gerrymander

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:7nagdvjqrzaquzk7mueohne5/bafkreigioi7mevotmhsno7ozag7r7byi2jjjta4rsrdqkp7qd hjup436eyhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1K2ZfobOClPyEWDtLELathLkD1eYNTCAD/view

Winehole23

05-26-2026, 08:47 AM

We now face a critical decision on a very tight timeline. We can either allow
the Secretary of State to administer Alabama’s 2026 elections with a legislatively
enacted districting plan that we found (after a full trial) intentionally discriminated
against Black voters based on race in violation of the Constitution, or we can issue
a preliminary injunction two and a half months ahead of Alabama’s scheduled
special primaries (and some five months before the general election), requiring the
Secretary to administer the 2026 elections with the race-blind plan that he used on
orders from us and the Supreme Court for Alabama’s 2024 elections and May 19,
2026, primary elections. We emphasize that because of the exceptional public
importance of this matter, we carefully reviewed the extensive evidentiary record in
these cases with fresh eyes in light of Callais.

After that exacting review, we conclude that a preliminary injunction must
issue. Ultimately, we cannot see our way clear to requiring Alabamians to cast their
votes in the 2026 elections under a districting plan tainted by intentional race-based
discrimination. And under the unusual circumstances of this case, we conclude that
a limited order requiring the Secretary to continue using this Court’s race-blind map
will not disrupt Alabama’s elections (all candidates ran under the race-blind map
until fifteen days ago, and all voters remain districted under the race-blind map in
electoral computer systems).

Winehole23

05-26-2026, 08:51 AM

It's going to be hilarious (in the soul-crushing way) to see how fast Alabama goes to #SCOTUS (https://bsky.app/hashtag/SCOTUS) for a stay of this ruling under Purcell, after obtaining relief from the Court from a similar injunction <checks notes> 15 days ago on the ground that it *wasn't* too close to the election.

Winehole23

05-26-2026, 08:51 AM

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Winehole23

05-26-2026, 09:23 AM

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Winehole23

05-26-2026, 10:21 AM

still an illegal map under Callais according to the court

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:j7eliwxzqpvvwu6jbxr5ggaf/bafkreid6gpl6vr4ydlpydyotgsstr4xofz2tsgapyvtusgm4a 7qz5csn3u

objection to porcine maquillage

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Blake

05-26-2026, 04:34 PM

The Republican-led South Carolina Senate on Tuesday voted against advancing a new congressional map, ending the redistricting effort in the state for now.

The failed vote was a surprise rejection of President Donald Trump, who had urged lawmakers to pass the redrawn map that eliminated the state’s single majority-Black district, represented by longtime Democratic Rep. James Clyburn.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2026-election/south-carolinas-redistricting-effort-fails-state-senate-gop-opposition-rcna346962

Winehole23

05-26-2026, 05:05 PM

further election-year partisan redistricting is potentially dummymandering

Winehole23

05-26-2026, 06:18 PM

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2026-election/south-carolinas-redistricting-effort-fails-state-senate-gop-opposition-rcna346962

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“Neither my conscience nor common sense will allow me to stop an election that is already underway,” said SC Sen. Richard Cash (R). https://wherethingsstand.talkingpointsmemo.com/p/in-defiance-of-trump-south-carolina

Blake

05-26-2026, 06:21 PM

Lol "conscience"

Millennial_Messiah

05-26-2026, 11:04 PM

The Supreme Court will side with Alabama and let them restore the 2022 map. The lower court federal judges don't have the final say.

I still don't understand why Alabama doesn't just draw a 7-0 solid red map. Perfectly obtainable without any snake districts or cracking any big cities even. They have the numbers there to do it without a dummymander (all seats R+20 or better, unlike SC).

https://i.imgur.com/xRX87fT.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/5F1OCSt.jpeg

....... as for South Carolina, agree that drawing out Clyburn is a potential dummymander, I mean SC isn't a Trump + 30 or 40 state it's a Trump + 18 state and the east part of the state is definitely more blue with more black vote.

Blake

05-27-2026, 12:29 PM

Democrat Johnny Garcia has won his party’s primary in Texas’ 35th Congressional District, NBC News projects, defeating a rival whom party leaders had condemned for antisemitic comments as Democrats look to compete in a district Republicans redrew to their benefit...

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2026-election/democrat-johnny-garcia-wins-texas-house-primary-rivals-antisemitic-com-rcna346547

including $1 million in spending from an opaque outside group aimed at boosting Garcia’s opponent, sex therapist Maureen Galindo, despite the controversies dogging her. Punchbowl News reported that the super PAC, Lead Left PAC, had links to a GOP fundraising platform......

Sleazy Trump tards

Winehole23

05-28-2026, 03:29 PM

notably not full sicko mode, 5-1

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:b3psimnw5xxta2n4h5qzxu55/bafkreifnhbaol6uo7b5uk5soj7cdoa5tdcrn6mj24wdjdjvvx 3iayw4g4yhttps://www.nola.com/news/politics/louisiana-legislature-reveals-latest-proposed-congressional-map-approved-by-house/article_077cba5e-0cbe-4e05-9598-4dbbe1e502dc.html

Winehole23

05-28-2026, 03:32 PM

1 of 2 majority black districts eliminated

a 50% reduction in minority representation is the moderate Republican position here

Winehole23

06-02-2026, 11:07 PM

SCOTUS upholds Alabama's racially discriminatory, never hitherto enacted electoral map in a per curiam (unsigned) decision

If you're African American and living in the USA in the 21st century, your vote no longer counts unless you vote for a Republican

Additionally, it is per se racist (unconstitutional) to try to fix racist gerrymanders but racist gerrymanders themselves are agreeable to law if they cloak their racism with facially neutral language.

Decision at: https://electionlawblog.org/wp-content/uploads/25a1314-order.pdf

To understand where we are: in April, the Court decided Louisiana v. Callais, a case in which the Supreme Court essentially struck down (https://www.ms.now/opinion/supreme-court-redistricting-voting-rights-act-democrats) Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act while cowardly pretending it was not doing (https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2026/04/supreme-court-analysis-coward-samuel-alito-callais.html?gift_token=2pziQ1GYS2aiGtPor0-CmA) so to try to avoid political heat. Section 2 has been the main driver in assuring that minority voters have a fair chance to elect their candidates of choice under conditions, like in Alabama, where the white majority usually votes to defeat the choice of Black voters.

Section 2, at least until Callais, was understood to be based solely on results or effects; proof of discriminatory intent was unnecessary.

But there is another path to trying to block a map that dilutes the voting power of minority voters: a claim of unconstitutional intent in violation of the Constitution’s equal protection clause of the 14th amendment. Such claims are really hard to win, because proving racially discriminatory intent these days is difficult.

And yet, both before and after Callais, the court in Alabama found that the state intentionally discriminated against minority voters in not drawing a second district where Black voters could elect their candidates of their choice.

In today’s order, the Supreme Court makes the already difficult path of proving discriminatory intent even harder. Building upon Justice Alito’s earlier opinion in Abbott v. Perez and in other cases, there’s now practically an unrebuttable presumption that a legislature is acting in good faith and therefore is not acting in a racially discriminatory way so long as the state can assert some pretextual nonracial reason for enacting its plan. Here is the relevant paragraph:

At this preliminary stage, the State has shown that it isentitled to interim relief from the District Court’s injunction. See Abbott v. League of United Latin American Citizens, 607 U. S. ___, ___–___ (2025) (slip op., at 1–2). The State is likely to succeed on the merits as to both claims. As to intentional vote dilution, the District Court did not heed the presumption of legislative good faith, see Alexander v. South Carolina State Conference of the NAACP, 602 U. S. 1, 10 (2024), because it interpreted the State’s legal disagreement with the court’s earlier remedial order as proof of discriminatory animus. Cf. Abbott v. Perez, 585 U. S. 579, 608–609 (2018). And, as to both claims, the District Court’s analysis departed from Callais. Under Callais, the District Court was required to deny relief unless the plaintiffs’ alternative map performed “just as well” with respect to all of the State’s constitutionally permissible districting criteria. 608 U. S., at ___ (slip op., at 29). Yet, the District Court found a violation even though the plaintiffs’ alternative map would not perform just as well as to the State’s constitutionally permissible criteria of keeping together the GulfCoast community of interest and avoiding the pairing of incumbents. The District Court also failed to follow our instruction in Callais that the mere fact that voters of different races vote for different parties is not relevant to proving racially polarized voting patterns. See id., at ___ (slip op., at 30).

Even if plaintiffs get past this new discriminatory intent barrier, the Court has now imported the Callais discriminatory effects test into a constitutional vote dilution analysis. So in these cases, plaintiffs will need to meet an impossible standard to prove effect, just as in a post-Callais Section 2 case, a standard which simply ignores the fact that when (white) Republicans discriminate against Democrats in the south, they are discriminating against Black voters.

Finally, the opinion turns the equities on its head in many ways. The Court now says that a federal court cannot remedy a voting violation at the last minute under the so-called Purcell Principle, but states should go to town with new, unconstitutional plans: “While federal courts should not impose changes close to an election, ibid., States are free to decide for themselves whether last-minute changes to an election are in their best interests.” This is a license for putting last minute unconstitutional plans in place and sow chaos for election administrators and voters.

As Justice Sotomayor shows, the Supreme Court erred in so many ways. It did not review the district court’s factual findings for clear error. It did not recognize that the lower court applied the presumption of good faith but had ample evidence that Alabama acted in bad faith by flouting the ruling of the district court in the hopes (fulfilled here) that the Supreme Court would see things differently. It allows changes at the last minute after Alabama had represented to the Court earlier in the litigation that it would need months to make the kinds of changes that election administrators will have to make in days.

More and more, this Court shows itself to be little more than a partisan tool engaged in results-oriented jurisprudence, despite protestations (https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/13/politics/amy-coney-barrett-supreme-court-not-partisan)to the contrary (https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2026/05/supreme-court-analysis-john-roberts-age-radical-change.html).
https://electionlawblog.org/?p=156541

Winehole23

06-02-2026, 11:13 PM

netting out, Alabama keeps one of two districts with AA representation intact

not full sicko, but a 50% reduction is harsh