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Winehole23
11-20-2024, 09:53 AM
Conservative and liberal Jews quoted in the article don't seem favorably impressed.

Public schools aren't the place for religious instruction, but chronically underfunded Texas schools will be hard pressed to pass up the per student bounty.


The curriculum, known as Bluebonnet Learning (https://tea.texas.gov/academics/instructional-materials/bluebonnet-learning) and developed by the Texas Education Agency (https://tea.texas.gov/about-tea/news-and-multimedia/news-releases/news-2024/texas-education-agency-releases-updated-bluebonnet-learning-instructional-materials), first made headlines in the spring, when it was introduced for public feedback. It immediately drew criticism for prioritizing Christianity at the expense of other religions, including inaccurate Jewish content and devoting little attention to Islam. (A brief mention of the Prophet Muhammad was added to a revised draft.)

The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that teaching the Bible in public schools is allowed, (https://www.edweek.org/teaching-learning/should-the-bible-be-taught-in-public-schools/2024/07) as long as it doesn’t cross into mandatory religious activity (https://www.oyez.org/cases/1962/142), which would be a violation of the First Amendment. Texas’ Bluebonnet curriculum uses Bible stories not to teach about religion, though, but for lessons in art appreciation, math, poetry and other subjects.

The Texas State Board of Education is expected to make a final decision about the curriculum on Friday. If approved, schools would not be required to adopt the Bluebonnet curriculum; Texas’ 1,207 school districts (https://tea.texas.gov/texas-schools/general-information/finding-a-school-for-your-child/finding-a-school#:~:text=Finding%20a%20school%20among%20Texa s,9%2C000%20campuses%2C%20can%20be%20daunting.) would each decide whether to adopt it. The state will be offering financial incentives to the districts that implement Bluebonnet: $60 per student.Texas Bluebonnet: Board of Education votes on Bible lessons – The Forward (https://forward.com/news/676477/texas-bluebonnet-bible-esther-board-of-education/)

Winehole23
11-27-2024, 06:21 PM
sure, why not?

goddam Texas lege

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https://x.com/HoustonChron/status/1861201967688602012

Winehole23
11-27-2024, 06:30 PM
Texas would rather pepper spray and taser your kid at school with a drone than limit anyone's access to guns.

z0sa
11-27-2024, 08:12 PM
I teach my children their religious beliefs at home and with the help of a priest or pastor, depending on how we feel/where we're at on a certain week. I strongly disagree religious indoctrination should be a foundational IE dollar-bound aspect of our public schools. That said, I'm also of the opinion that if a large amount of voting constituents desire things like Biblical instruction, crosses on cop cars, etc then this should be perfectly legal. Majority rules in a democracy, nay, in a society period. Most people in the US, especially in Texas, identify as Christians. We've come upon a reckoning where the hard line separation of church and state is increasingly unpopular. I only ask that those who are so quick to put crosses in capitol buildings realize you're opening the door for those whom you oppose, such as satanists. What's good for the goose must be good for the gander.

Blake
11-27-2024, 10:14 PM
I teach my children their religious beliefs at home and with the help of a priest or pastor, depending on how we feel/where we're at on a certain week. I strongly disagree religious indoctrination should be a foundational IE dollar-bound aspect of our public schools. That said, I'm also of the opinion that if a large amount of voting constituents desire things like Biblical instruction, crosses on cop cars, etc then this should be perfectly legal. Majority rules in a democracy, nay, in a society period. Most people in the US, especially in Texas, identify as Christians. We've come upon a reckoning where the hard line separation of church and state is increasingly unpopular. I only ask that those who are so quick to put crosses in capitol buildings realize you're opening the door for those whom you oppose, such as satanists. What's good for the goose must be good for the gander.

When you say Satanists, you mean Muslims?

z0sa
11-27-2024, 10:41 PM
When you say Satanists, you mean Muslims?

Huh? No

Blake
11-27-2024, 10:49 PM
Huh? No

Oh I see what you mean about the satanists and their hilarious trolling.

But what if a Muslim cop wants to put In Allah We Trust bumper sticker on his squad car? Is that still good for the gander?

z0sa
11-28-2024, 01:49 AM
Oh I see what you mean about the satanists and their hilarious trolling.

But what if a Muslim cop wants to put In Allah We Trust bumper sticker on his squad car? Is that still good for the gander?

exactly. Christians invite this upon themselves, in terms of the church of satan stuff.

yes, in a majority muslim police district, I'd agree that if they want to flaunt allah/islam, it should be their prerogative. Is it constitutional? No, but ... what does it matter, at this point? this country's justice system is a mockery. What was right and wrong ended when Trump won. Everything's changed now, and not for the better, but best to be practical about it.

Winehole23
11-28-2024, 08:43 AM
What was right and wrong ended when Trump won.how so?

Winehole23
11-28-2024, 09:02 AM
I mean, a federal court just stopped the Louisiana Ten Commandments law, so obviously something besides the will of the majority and "might makes right" still exists.

Winehole23
11-28-2024, 09:07 AM
Also look to Oklahoma. Very conservative pols and judges just put the kibosh on Ryan Walters's mandatory Trump prayer video.

Trump got 66% of the vote in OK, nevertheless, other political considerations are winning out. Constitutional considerations like freedom of religion and expression. In a very conservative state.

Blake
11-28-2024, 12:43 PM
exactly. Christians invite this upon themselves, in terms of the church of satan stuff.

yes, in a majority muslim police district, I'd agree that if they want to flaunt allah/islam, it should be their prerogative. Is it constitutional? No, but ... what does it matter, at this point? this country's justice system is a mockery. What was right and wrong ended when Trump won. Everything's changed now, and not for the better, but best to be practical about it.

No, I mean even in a minority Muslim police district as well.

Thread
11-28-2024, 01:55 PM
I mean, a federal court just stopped the Louisiana Ten Commandments law, so obviously something besides the will of the majority and "might makes right" still exists.

...unfortunately.

HemisfairArena
11-28-2024, 11:11 PM
Conservative and liberal Jews quoted in the article don't seem favorably impressed.

Public schools aren't the place for religious instruction, but chronically underfunded Texas schools will be hard pressed to pass up the per student bounty.


Texas Bluebonnet: Board of Education votes on Bible lessons – The Forward (https://forward.com/news/676477/texas-bluebonnet-bible-esther-board-of-education/)


It aint turnin' blue, son,,,,,

Winehole23
06-20-2025, 06:58 PM
5th Circuit is not generally considered liberal



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Blake
06-20-2025, 07:45 PM
It aint turnin' blue, son,,,,,

Nope it's staying red and stupid for a long time

koriwhat
06-21-2025, 05:23 AM
Lol not the Christians while the commies and pro palestine pro hamas pro terrorist retards are a dime a dozen in higher ed.