Zach Collins has to go asap

[LeBowen]

Yeah, this is a reactionary topic, but I'm just so fucking done with this retard.
I don't even care about the dead cap or upgrading him, just get rid of him so I don't have to look at his annoying face every single game.
He just got torched by some random scrub that barely played this season, committed a blatant foul on Sabonis and had the audacity to argue with the ref.

He's single-handedly bringing the entire team down. Not even Forbes had such negative impact on our team.
A player with no actual NBA level skills has no business being such an awful character, his negativity rubs off the entire team.

[scott]

Zach Collins is having an objectively good season

Legal Disclaimer: The above was a quote of something I read on this website and does not express the opinion of scott, LLC, a Delaware Limited Liability Company.

[LeBowen]

Zach Collins is having an objectively good season

Objectively good for who? For himself? Sure.
He's getting way more playtime than he deserves, his paychecks are on time and he's healthy. Can't ask for more.

Spurs fans? Except for a certain individual who rates everyone wearing the uniform? Not that good for us.

[scott]

Objectively good for who? For himself? Sure.
He's getting way more playtime than he deserves, his paychecks are on time and he's healthy. Can't ask for more.

Spurs fans? Except for a certain individual who rates everyone wearing the uniform? Not that good for us.

That was an actual quote from someone else on this website. Forgot who. Might have been Chinook or ex.

[Dejounte]

Zach Collins is having an objectively good season

Nah, you’re just having an agenda or whatever the fuck he said.

[LeBowen]

That was an actual quote from someone else on this website. Forgot who. Might have been Chinook or ex.

I think I know who it was, that poster who still rates everyone, even Branham and Wesley.

[scott]

Nah, you’re just having an agenda or whatever the fuck he said.

I will edit my post to make it clear that I was just quoting what I read on this website, not shit I actually believe :lol

[scott]

I think I know who it was, that poster who still rates everyone, even Branham and Wesley.

I don't think it was him, but I honestly don't remember. I'm not even trying to call anyone out... but if the quote's original author wants to claim ownership, here is the forum for he/she to do so. :lol

[spurraider21]

That was an actual quote from someone else on this website. Forgot who. Might have been Chinook or ex.
twas chinook

im usually a fan of his as well, but man that take... :lol

[TXstbobcat]

$34,821,696 Well spent!

[Splits]

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[spursparker9]

Got to give Zollins. He is the biggest cheerleader on the bench. I swear I always see him stand up first celebrating when his teammates make big plays. :lol

[Russ]

This game shows how things go when he goes.

[Splits]

When Collins was ejected the game was tied. We lost by 27.

CP3 at a +1 was the only Spur that was positive besides.... Collins. Mamu -10, Bassey -26, our boy Collins +3

He does the intangibles gais

[itzsoweezee]

Collins fanboys? You all are embarrassing. Probably the same guys that loved Forbes too

[vy65]

Chinook’s autism pays dividends when it comes to cap minutia, but man does he have a profound inability to assess talent or lack thereof.

This slick haired no talent faggot has got to go.

[heyheymymy]

https://incrediblevanishingpaperweight.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/mob1.jpg

[Joseph Kony]

Waiting for the sniff crew to come here calling OP a pissbaby and slobber over Collins' impact on the lockeroom or how his contract isnt that​ bad

[Jordan Jackson]

There are people out there that still think Collins is a valuable piece? If the goal is to tank again, then yes.

Otherwise, he’s a walking glory hole out on the court for opposing teams and refs.

[TekXX]

Who doesn't need to go besides Wemby and Castle?

[TimDunkem]

I've seen enough. He is absolutely cheeks, and makes a mistake nearly every possession.

He will never hit enough 3s or block enough shots to make up for his lack of skill or impact in just every other meaningful area.

He is who we (not ATL Spur lol) thought he was.

[baseline bum]

I've seen enough. He is absolutely cheeks, and makes a mistake nearly every possession.

He will never hit enough 3s or block enough shots to make up for his lack of skill or impact in just every other meaningful area.

He is who we (not ATL Spur lol) thought he was.

His defense is so inconsequential I wonder if the Spurs would be better off just telling him to wait at their basket to cherry pick instead of getting back on D any time he checks into a game.

[The Truth #6]

When Collins was ejected the game was tied. We lost by 27.

CP3 at a +1 was the only Spur that was positive besides.... Collins. Mamu -10, Bassey -26, our boy Collins +3

He does the intangibles gais

Definitely an inconvenient truth.

[GAustex]

He tries hard
That’s about it

[The Truth #6]

On the flip side, Bassey has not seized his opportunity. Zollins is giving the ref the middle finger, literally. Can't see the coaches loving that. Bassey seems not ready for the moment. Hopefully he can get it together.

[scott]

On the flip side, Bassey has not seized his opportunity. Zollins is giving the ref the middle finger, literally. Can't see the coaches loving that. Bassey seems not ready for the moment. Hopefully he can get it together.

I'm afraid my Prince seems like he just doesn't really know how to play basketball. On offense he often seems confused, out of place, and in the way. Charlie may just be a hustle third stringer.

[rankingtear]

Zollins maybe the best back up C were gonna get in the Wemby era. They won't invest a lot of cap and draft capital on that spot moving forward, they may even just play Sochan at backup C. Look at DEN after Plumlee.

[dbestpro]

The whole team is top three lottery without Wemby. The Spurs need an enema.

[rankingtear]

The whole team is top three lottery without Wemby. The Spurs need an enema.

That is also true for Jokic less DEN and Embiid less 76ers. That is just how a team built around a high usage versatile big is structured. It is different from a PNR offense or 5 out drive and kick.

[BackHome]

I didn’t like Collins signing but quite a few people did on this board I guess Covid has messed with a lot of people’s memories. The issue for me is why is a backup playing so much and the reason is because Wemby is either out or playing with restricted minutes but that is for another discussion.

This team is just not that good and it is just not 1 player who is playing bad basketball it seems most are wildly inconsistent. To be honest Sochan has probably been the most consistent player this year which has been at least one silver lining. If it was me I would make massive changes this off season as far as making trades and just downright letting some people just walk.

[Dex]

twas chinook

im usually a fan of his as well, but man that take... :lol

When you look at his stats alone, they don't look terrible. 4th in Defensive Rating on the team, nearly 15/8 per 36. He is also a decent passer and screen setter. That is serviceable for a backup big.

Then you dig deeper...

-62 +/- on the season despite being 10th in MPG (4th worst on the team)

33% from three which is below average (fortunately on low attempts). Dude hits just enough to keep shooting, then his next shot will be an airball.

5.5 Fouls Per 36. And dude has the audacity to complain about foul calls. If he played a full game, he would be fouling out all the time...that could not all be the refs fault.

Oh, and he's the 4th highest paid player on the roster.

Most importantly, he just doesn't pass the eye test. If you actually watch the games, he floats in space all the time. He drops back in defense too much which lets guys either shoot right over him, or trap him under the basket where he gets over-powered or fouls.

And, like OP, I am just sick and tired of his attitude and constant pouting on the court. Last night's game was the perfect culmination of all of that. That type of personality just brings the team morale down as a whole. I literally cringe every time he has the ball.

[Obstructed_View]

That is also true for Jokic less DEN and Embiid less 76ers. That is just how a team built around a high usage versatile big is structured. It is different from a PNR offense or 5 out drive and kick.
0-4 with him, 6-11 without him.

[LeBowen]

Most importantly, he just doesn't pass the eye test. If you actually watch the games, he floats in space all the time. He drops back in defense too much which lets guys either shoot right over him, or trap him under the basket where he gets over-powered or fouls.

He floats in space because he lost all of his athleticism and can't move. He moves slower than some heavy 7 footers, but doesn't have their size.
Actual bigs bully him, players with similar size just run circles around him.
A lot of bad rim protectors are at least good rebounders, but his rebounding is also horrible, almost a non-factor.
Before he got paid, he was at least decent on offense, made the right plays most of the time and had solid post moves to exploit mismatches. Now he can't do anything.


And, like OP, I am just sick and tired of his attitude and constant pouting on the court. Last night's game was the perfect culmination of all of that. That type of personality just brings the team morale down as a whole. I literally cringe every time he has the ball.

If you ask me, bench players just can't have that attitude, they must be good teammates and positive for everyone around them.
Bassey is also a scrub, but when you hear him talk and look at his energy on the court, it's contagious.
Mamu does well most of the time when he gets minutes, still gets DNP'd and never complains.

When you hear Collins talk to the media it's like he feels he deserves a bigger role.

He's paid on level with some great 6th men and his production is worse than a lot of minimum contract bigs.
Spurs revived his career, helped him rehabilitate, gave him a contract he didn't deserve, but now it's time to move on. I don't care if they ship his ass back to Portland or whatever, he got way more from the Spurs than he gave back.

[Dex]

The whole team is top three lottery without Wemby. The Spurs need an enema.

Considering the injuries, this year is going about as well as can be expected. Vassell out significant time and on restrictions when he is playing, Jones missing significant time, Sochan missing time, Wemby missing some games...we just don't have our weapons. We've been counting on rookie Stephon Castle to play well above his current level to compete.

Spurs are winning more games than last year (so far), hopefully enough to keep Wemby feeling like we can be competitive in the future. I'm sure that losing streak last season didn't sit well.

That said, it's fairly obvious we aren't close to a top-tier team...even a play-in berth is a stretch in the West.

Win enough to keep Wemby happy, but not enough to threaten a good draft pick...and then we need to do a purge next summer.

[rankingtear]

0-4 with him, 6-11 without him.

His knees are done this season.

[The Truth #6]

At the time and now, the contracts for Devin and Zollins seem too high. Devin because he's always injured; Zollins because he's not really a starter.

I think Wright got manic when they drafted Wemby and inexplicably rushed their own process.

[rankingtear]

At the time and now, the contracts for Devin and Zollins seem too high. Devin because he's always injured; Zollins because he's not really a starter.

I think Wright got manic when they drafted Wemby and inexplicably rushed their own process.

Zollins sure but you lose Devin to RFA if your not willing to pay that amount. UTA and DET would surely take a chance on him, none are too worried about capspace for awhile.

[spurs10]

Waiting for the fine.

[z0sa]

Zhaquille Collins is garbage, has been garbage, continues to be garbage. Everyone just assumes he sucks but in reality, there were much higher expectations when he started next to Wemby in Game 1 of his (Wemby's) career. This guy was supposed to be a halfway decent shooter at the very minimum. Very definition of a contract year player who sucks at all other times.

[SouthernFried]

There's a lot more that "have" to go.

Your focus on Zach is probably steeped in racism because Bassey, Branham and Wesley suck worse.

[John B]

Zach was actually playing very well in mid-November then his production dived again. The word inconsistent is accurate. He’s a very expensive inconsistent backup Center at 16-18 mil a year.

[LeBowen]

There's a lot more that "have" to go.

Your focus on Zach is probably steeped in racism because Bassey, Branham and Wesley suck worse.

What the fuck?
I'm focusing on Collins because he's supposed to be a high level backup and he's taking up 11% of our total cap.
Branham and Wesley are on rookie deals and no chance they'll ever earn anything more than a minimum once it's up.
Bassey is a reclamation project and a third stringer. He doesn't have to go, he's a third stringer on a minimum contract, he's not even supposed to play and we have to fill our roster. Can't have anyone cheaper.

Three of them combined amount to 50% of Collins' salary. That's why I'm "racist".

[Knoxxx]

You could have made this thread about almost everyone on the roster. We have no credible PF or C on the roster after Wemby. Sochan is a SF/PF. He is not a true PF, too small. Mamu is not the answer either, don’t try that bs on me.

[Strategic]

Well, he’s one of the problems. CB has even more shortcomings.

[baseline bum]

There's a lot more that "have" to go.

Your focus on Zach is probably steeped in racism because Bassey, Branham and Wesley suck worse.

LOL playing the race card as if Collins isn't being paid $17.5 million to suck.

[Bruno]

You're exaggerating about Collins because there is something very good about him: in 6 months, he will be a nice $18M expiring contract Spurs could use in a trade.

[Knoxxx]

It could be worth trying to get a new PF-C with ATL pick.

[The Truth #6]

Zollins sure but you lose Devin to RFA if your not willing to pay that amount. UTA and DET would surely take a chance on him, none are too worried about capspace for awhile.

At the time it was a debate of who was better: Keldon or Devin. Over that summer in question, imo, Devin improved his game and impressed the staff to get that big contract. But it was more than anyone else would have paid. One of the questions was also if his knee was healthy and that would dictate his salary. So far, his injuries continue and so that has turned out to be an unfortunate evaluation.

On top of all this, his style of play is heliocentric which was not the goal. So, lots of questions about the worth of his contract.

It may work out in the end but I wouldn't call his new contract a huge success so far.

[SouthernFried]

On top of all this, his style of play is heliocentric which was not the goal. So, lots of questions about the worth of his contract.


You know, this actually kinda fits.

he·li·o·cen·tric

adjective:
Having or representing the sun as the center, as in the accepted astronomical model of the solar system.

Astronomy:
Measured from or considered in relation to the center of the sun.
"heliocentric distance"

[scott]

There's a lot more that "have" to go.

Your focus on Zach is probably steeped in racism because Bassey, Branham and Wesley suck worse.

https://i.ibb.co/1nSw2YP/white-dudes.jpg

[gilmor2002]

I fucking hate Zollins also.. he, KJ and Malaki

[Splits]

The Zollins fined $35k

[The Truth #6]

He shouldn't have been ejected, he was walking away. And Sabonis plays hyper physical and basically plowed right into Zollins. However... Zollins is still a foul magnet and should be a starter on a tanking team.

[Spursfanfromafar]

There arent' any suckers out there who will take Zollins and trade an useful piece to the Spurs. So yeah, holding onto him till he becomes an expiring contract seems to be the only option.

[LeBowen]

Any news?
Did he break his vagina with that fall last night?
Hopefully he's done for the season, but we're not that lucky.

[poopbox]

There arent' any suckers out there who will take Zollins and trade an useful piece to the Spurs. So yeah, holding onto him till he becomes an expiring contract seems to be the only option.

He's expiring after this season :lol

[scott]

Any news?
Did he break his vagina with that fall last night?
Hopefully he's done for the season, but we're not that lucky.

He's even more untradeable if he's done for the season. Rather, I hope he's fine but the Spurs finally see how much better we can be with a productive backup big.

[LeBowen]

He's even more untradeable if he's done for the season.

He's untradeable either way, if he goes down we can get a disabled player exception.
We should apply for it even if he's healthy, tbh.


Rather, I hope he's fine but the Spurs finally see how much better we can be with a productive backup big.

The only way for this to happen is if he's out for a long time. If he's available, he'll play.

[spurraider21]

He's untradeable either way, if he goes down we can get a disabled player exception.
We should apply for it even if he's healthy, tbh.



The only way for this to happen is if he's out for a long time. If he's available, he'll play.
the weird thing about the disabled player exception is that it doesnt actually give you a roster spot to replace the guy

[Maddog]

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2024/12/pacers-actively-pursuing-backup-center.html

[quentin_compson]

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2024/12/pacers-actively-pursuing-backup-center.html

Time to dust off the old praying dog meme, it seems ...

[Seventyniner]

Gotta keep that Spurs/Pacers white guy with great hair pipeline flowing.

[The Truth #6]

I'm not opposed to moving on from him because I don't like his contract, but then fans are going to kill Charles Bassey when he becomes the occasional starter. And I don't see a tank scenario on purpose at least. So anyway it seems like a really muddled situation.

[Maddog]

Other than picks there's not a lot on the Pacers to entice. Doubt they give up picks for Zollins since they're headed nowhere fast and already have one 1st headed to Toronto.

The pacers are like several teams in an interesting place though. They've bet the farm on Halliburton and Siakim. May have missed on that one.

[LeBowen]

I'm not opposed to moving on from him because I don't like his contract, but then fans are going to kill Charles Bassey when he becomes the occasional starter. And I don't see a tank scenario on purpose at least. So anyway it seems like a really muddled situation.

I don't think Bassey is good enough to play 15 to 20 minutes every game, but he definitely hasn't reached his ceiling.
Collins is done and we know he won't get any more useful. Not to mention he's taking 11% of the cap. Bassey is on a minimum deal.

Some numbers to put things into perspective:

Collins has 12 blocks and 80 rebounds in 341 minutes.
Bassey has 19 blocks and 58 rebounds in 158 minutes.

Spurs are 7-4 when Collins plays 13 or less minutes, 5-8 when he plays more.
4-1 when he didn't score.

His only actually good game in a win was against OKC when we won without Wemby...and Bassey had more impact in that game.

We're still at a stage where some players need to be properly evaluated and we have nothing to gain with playing Collins.
We can't drive his value up because he's getting worse and everyone caught up to the fact that he's garbage.
I'm also not sure Bassey will ever be good enough to be a permanent backup, but I'd rather give a shot to an unknown quantity than keep bringing the team down with Collins.


I still think John Collins would be ideal for this roster because he'd enable us to do so much with our lineups.
He can play both PF and C, he'd work well as PF next to Wemby, providing both spacing and inside presence on offense.
He'd kill most backup bigs in the league as C and he'd work well with Jeremy against bench lineups.
And we can have Bassey as a situational backup big.

[The Truth #6]

I'm cool giving Bassey the chance, not sure about the FO. But in trading Zollins, very possibly it seems like we're going to have to get someone else's backup center. My point is that we'd probably have to trade more than just Zollins. And that makes it a bigger decision, more moving parts.

If Zollins is injured, then we can at least give Bassey an audition.

[scott]

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2024/12/pacers-actively-pursuing-backup-center.html

The writer of this article needs to keep Charles Bassey's name out of his mouth

[scott]

I'm cool giving Bassey the chance, not sure about the FO. But in trading Zollins, very possibly it seems like we're going to have to get someone else's backup center. My point is that we'd probably have to trade more than just Zollins. And that makes it a bigger decision, more moving parts.

If Zollins is injured, then we can at least give Bassey an audition.

Despite being President of the Charles Bassey fan club, I agree. I don't think it would be wise to simply elevate Bassey into Collins role and call it a day. I still like the idea of replacing Zollins with someone like Jonas, and letting Bassey get situational role time. If we could count on them not having yet another catastrophic injury, I'd be interested in Time Lord or Adams. Both need to be load managed, so you would have opportunities still for Bassey. But I don't want to have to deal with the scenario where either of them goes out for an extended period of time.

[Obstructed_View]

His knees are done this season.
He's always been empty calories and questionable availability.

[Dejounte]

How has this guy seemingly calmly accepted being permanently benched?? Has he made a hush hush Devonte Graham agreement with the Spurs where they’ll find him a new team as long as he is a good teammate? It’s impressive…

[scott]

How has this guy seemingly calmly accepted being permanently benched?? Has he made a hush hush Devonte Graham agreement with the Spurs where they’ll find him a new team as long as he is a good teammate? It’s impressive…

He’s getting paid $35MM and front row season tickets at Spurs home games and VIP travel packages to every road game for two years. Just has to do some occasional cardio. What’s to be upset about?

[Dejounte]

He’s getting paid $35MM and front row season tickets at Spurs home games and VIP travel packages to every road game for two years. Just has to do some occasional cardio. What’s to be upset about?

Maybe im just used to all the nba drama queens. Im pretty sure a lot other players have handled this a lot worse. I dont think what collins is doing is common at all.

[Seventyniner]

Graham was a pro's pro about his situation. Zollins is taking this demotion in stride, good on him.

[KingKev]

Are we holding Zollins out in a deal for Fox? Zollins, Keldon, Branham and the CHA FRP I bet. Sac probably doesn’t want a key asset such as Zollins risking injury.

[scott]

Are we holding Zollins out in a deal for Fox? Zollins, Keldon, Branham and the CHA FRP I bet. Sac probably doesn’t want a key asset such as Zollins risking injury.

I thought it was for Giannis

[timtonymanu]

He’s getting paid $35MM and front row season tickets at Spurs home games and VIP travel packages to every road game for two years. Just has to do some occasional cardio. What’s to be upset about?

Exactly, he has no room to complain about losing his minutes. It was a long overdue.

[CGD]

Gotta give it Mitch for sticking with his guns on Bassey over Collins. Suspect that Pop would have taken a different approach.

[spursparker9]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzLl9uegqeE

Mitch saying Zollins is "available". Lol I reckon that is a hint for GMs to propose something

[Leetonidas]

I really hope Mitch has Collins out of the rotation going forward and Pop is paying attention to how much better the team is functioning without Collins. Zach is in the role he should be now as third C for emergency situations

[exstatic]

I really hope Mitch has Collins out of the rotation going forward and Pop is paying attention to how much better the team is functioning without Collins. Zach is in the role he should be now as third C for emergency situations

The team is functioning better because we have all of our players back off of IR, not because of which 10-15 minute reserve plays behind Wemby.

[Leetonidas]

The team is functioning better because we have all of our players back off of IR, not because of which 10-15 minute reserve plays behind Wemby.

They've barely had the full team :lol Collins on the other hand has seen his mins steadily decrease since Mitch took over. There can be more than one reason something is happening. And part of it is definitely because Collins isn't out there getting smashed on defense constantly as soon as Wemby goes to the bench

[exstatic]

They've barely had the full team :lol Collins on the other hand has seen his mins steadily decrease since Mitch took over. There can be more than one reason something is happening. And part of it is definitely because Collins isn't out there getting smashed on defense constantly as soon as Wemby goes to the bench
It’s really been like 5 games, and Sochan has been back for that time. I’ll give you Tre’s return, but I don’t think. 3rd string PG is any more important than backup C.

I’m not a Collins fan by any means,but you guys are glazing Bassey in a major way. He’s missed a ton of bunnys right at the rim, and there’s barely a mention of that.

[LeBowen]

Anything positive about Collins shall not be tolerated in this topic.

[scott]

It’s really been like 5 games, and Sochan has been back for that time. I’ll give you Tre’s return, but I don’t think. 3rd string PG is any more important than backup C.

I’m not a Collins fan by any means,but you guys are glazing Bassey in a major way. He’s missed a ton of bunnys right at the rim, and there’s barely a mention of that.

He's missed a few, but Bassey still leads the team in FG% and is second to Mamu in eFG% (technically Sidy is also up there, but I'm excluding his 11 FGA).

The thing with Bassey is that all of his offensive involvement is incidental, coming within the natural flow of how things shake out. The Spurs aren't running plays for Bassey like they were for Collins, so the offense can run around more skilled perimeter players. There is no reason for our backup C to be the focal point of the offense when they are in the game, but that tended to happen with Collins in there. Bassey has been performing better in the garbage collector role, in addition to what he brings on defense and the boards.

We only need our backup C to be as close to net neutral as possible, and avoid being a massive net negative like Collins tended to be.

[Leetonidas]

It’s really been like 5 games, and Sochan has been back for that time. I’ll give you Tre’s return, but I don’t think. 3rd string PG is any more important than backup C.

I’m not a Collins fan by any means,but you guys are glazing Bassey in a major way. He’s missed a ton of bunnys right at the rim, and there’s barely a mention of that.

I'm not glazing Bassey at all :lol I didn't even mention him tbh. Not having Collins in the rotation is addition by subtraction. Any replacement level big would be better in the role than Collins

[100%duncan]

The team is functioning better because we have all of our players back off of IR, not because of which 10-15 minute reserve plays behind Wemby.

Non-Wemby mins used to be a net negative for us because the other team would just go on a run. Now, we still have solid rim protection with Bassey in. That's what the eye test says, I'm pretty sure the numbers back this up. I'm too lazy to look for them now.


Also liked scott's point, that Basseys offense are within the flow. Unlike Collins who would be forcing things on the post or airballing threes, and even unlike Barlow last year who a lot of people here admired.

[poopbox]

The team is functioning better because we have all of our players back off of IR, not because of which 10-15 minute reserve plays behind Wemby.

Collins ,is that you :lol

[exstatic]

Collins ,is that you :lol

Already stated I’m not a Collins fan. I just think our team burst is from having our top 8ish players all back, not what backup center on our roster plays 15 minutes. You may believe otherwise, and are free to do so.

[T Park]

Collins ,is that you :lol

same old retarded SPurstalk I see

[itzsoweezee]

Mitch’s coaching is a breath of fresh air. If there’s one thing I’m certain about, it’s that popovich would never have benched Collins in favor of Bassey.

No Collins, no Branham, I can watch a full game and see nothing but quality players on the court for the spurs, for the first time in a very, very long time.

[jjspur]

I'm not a Zollins fan by any means, but but the real reason fans don't like him is for his limited skillset but more so for his big contract. That being said, I'm not that thrilled about Bassey being our full time back up center either. He had his moments where he looks real good out there with his defense, but how long will he last with his injury history. While Zollins gets injured as well, he unfortunately makes 16 million. Bottom line is that neither is that great of a solution. If we can get rid of Zollins big contract, by all means do it. It would at least clear up a slot on the team. For 3 million a year, Bassey can stay as our 3rd stringer and occasionally be our backup center. The real problem is Zollins huge contract. The front office needs to work on somehow getting rid of it.

[RC_Drunkford]

Bassey just has to do the simple things: rebound, protect the rim, set screens and roll. That‘s where his game excels. He still has a lot of room to grow, but is good at the main things a center should do. That said I agree we should be looking for an upgrade.

[Spurs Homer]

If zollins gets minutes...i think it would hurt less if he did not play the center position...just throw him out on a wing for a few minutes - most teams just chuck threes anyway -

its not like the nba is suddenly going to devise plays to run to take advantage of zollins lack of foot speed...they will continue to run down the court and half-penetrate the middle with the intention of passing out for a 30 foot chuck...

[Bruno]

It was a little surprising to see Collins not even playing in garbage time against Portland. I wonder what was the reason behind that.

Bassey might be a decent backup C but Spurs currently badly lack of some bench shooting. Spurs' bench is Champagnie with 4 poor shooters (Jones, Castle, Johnson and Bassey). It's going to be very complicate to make it work for Mitch.

[rjv]

i didn't understand why collins didn't get garbage minutes the other night as well.

[objective]

Some vets might find it disrespectful to be asked to first enter and play in garbage time. Not saying the Spurs should care about Zollins feelings, but having him being engaged and feeling respected might be a good idea considering that Bassey gets hurt all the time.

[KingKev]

Some vets might find it disrespectful to be asked to first enter and play in garbage time. Not saying the Spurs should care about Zollins feelings, but having him being engaged and feeling respected might be a good idea considering that Bassey gets hurt all the time.

fk your feelings… respectfully

[AusSpur]

i didn't understand why collins didn't get garbage minutes the other night as well.

I have a feeling coach didn't appreciate Collins getting himself thrown out of a game which we were already missing our starting center.

[ginobilized]

Collins benching while available could mean many things like an incoming trade, doghouse for flipping off a ref, poor play, and poor chemistry more often than not.
All 4 and that's not a player I'd expect to see on the court much. I bet that he gets another chance when things line up fortuitously. Maybe tonight to waste some fouls on Embiid.

[rascal]

Collins benching while available could mean many things like an incoming trade, doghouse for flipping off a ref, poor play, and poor chemistry more often than not.
All 4 and that's not a player I'd expect to see on the court much. I bet that he gets another chance when things line up fortuitously. Maybe tonight to waste some fouls on Embiid.

Agree, that finger salute is going to get Collins out of town. Spurs will try to move him if possible before the trade deadline.

[scott]

Don’t know how big an impact the middle finger thing had… he was still first off the bench his first game after that.

[The Truth #6]

Don’t know how big an impact the middle finger thing had… he was still first off the bench his first game after that.

Pop probably watched the game a few days later on DVR and dropped the hammer. Joking?

[Uriel]

The thing with Collins is that he’s clearly more skilled than Bassey. He can put the ball on the floor, shoot from the perimeter, and play in the low post, in addition to all the other things traditional big men do. All Bassey does is rebound and clean up missed shots. He’s basically a taller DeJuan Blair. Collins is exactly the kind of versatile, multi positional player that Wright loves and wants to fill this roster with.

The thing, though, is all of that is moot because Collins doesn’t do any of those things exceptionally well. He’s like a jack of all trades, master of none. Bassey may not do a whole lot of different things, but the things he does do, he does very well, and that’s helping the team win games. That’s why he’s on the floor and Collins is not.