View Full Version : Wemby named WC POtW!
exstatic
12-23-2024, 03:53 PM
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John B
12-23-2024, 04:02 PM
MVP, MVP, MVP!!!
Can Victor reasonably be in the MVP discussion if he gets the Spurs to the playoffs. Easily he is the MVP of this team. Without Victor, this team is bottom 3.
timtonymanu
12-23-2024, 04:13 PM
Hell yeah! Closer to sealing his all star spot.
baseline bum
12-23-2024, 04:22 PM
MVP, MVP, MVP!!!
Can Victor reasonably be in the MVP discussion if he gets the Spurs to the playoffs. Easily he is the MVP of this team. Without Victor, this team is bottom 3.
If the Spurs can keep up this pace around a 40 win team he'll probably be top 7-8 in MVP voting. He'd have to have a big 2025 jump like the one he took last year when the calendar year turned over to 2024 to be a serious MVP candidate (e.g. top 3-4).
Raven
12-23-2024, 04:48 PM
If the Spurs can keep up this pace around a 40 win team he'll probably be top 7-8 in MVP voting. He'd have to have a big 2025 jump like the one he took last year when the calendar year turned over to 2024 to be a serious MVP candidate (e.g. top 3-4).
he's already nba's main attraction, eveb if the spurs end up bottom 3 in the league, he'd likely still be top 5
itzsoweezee
12-23-2024, 05:08 PM
Wemby is already 8 in the NBA MVP ladder. He would be a lock for a top 5 MVP spot if the Spurs are a top 6 seed, and maybe even if they finish around 8 or 9.
scott
12-23-2024, 05:18 PM
Thought this was a very real possibility about halfway through the POR game. Glad the league was paying equal attention.
Another sign that it's time to improve the roster around him. Doesn't need to be major moves, but moves that improve the overall talent level. Backup big is less of a concern now that Bassey is close to net neutral versus the huge net negative Collins was. Even so, I'd still see if we could turn Collins into Jonas.
Similarly, let's turn Keldon into Aaron Nesmith and see if we can't find a microwave bench scorer somewhere. Branham is the correct archetype, he just unfortunately sucks ass.
Wonder what it would realistically take to get Coby White or Ayo Dosunmu from the Bulls for that role.
Without doing any work to see if this works salary wise:
CP3/Vassell/Sochan/Barnes/Wemby
Coby/Castle/Champ/Nesmith/Jonas
Blake/Bran/Cidy/Mamu/Bassey
rascal
12-23-2024, 05:20 PM
Spurs are going be be caught right where they don't to be. As a middle of the pack team still not good enough to compete for a title.
Wemby is too good to be a bottom team to get the top lottery picks anymore but the Spurs still don't have enough overall talent to be a top team.
The Spurs are going to have to get out of their conservative nature of not making huge trades to bring in star level talent if they want to improve the team enough to be a real contender.
Middle draft picks and trading for players past their primes or role player acquisition types are similar level players as to what they currently have on the roster.
Does anyone believe this current core will ever be good enough to be one of the top teams in the league?
LeBowen
12-23-2024, 05:28 PM
Spurs are going be be caught right where they don't to be. As a middle of the pack team still not good enough to compete for a title.
Wemby is too good to be a bottom team to get the top lottery picks anymore but the Spurs still don't have enough overall talent to be a top team.
The Spurs are going to have to get out of their conservative nature of not making huge trades to bring in star level talent if they want to improve the team enough to be a real contender.
Middle draft picks and trading for players past their primes or role player acquisition types are similar level players as to what they currently have on the roster.
Does anyone believe this current core will ever be good enough to be one of the top teams in the league?
I'd write a detailed post on why you're wrong, but it's not worth it.
You'll just be in the team tank until Spurs reach 60 wins.
ginobilized
12-23-2024, 05:33 PM
Wemby had a good week, but, still feels a few of years from the beginning of his peak. That is so strange.
20 yrs old and putting up Wilt, Hakeem kind of numbers. If anyone gets close to or surpasses Wilt's 100 pt game, it's going to be Wemby.
This team needs to learn how to win more games before making any big moves. Hopefully, next season. I love the Aaron Nesmith, Coby White & Valunciunas ideas. Not expecting much in this season's trade deadline.
One player that was speculated to be traded at the deadline was CP3. He'd be crazy to want to leave this team and I don't think that he will.
Anyway, congrats to Wemby!!!
rascal
12-23-2024, 05:38 PM
I'd write a detailed post on why you're wrong, but it's not worth it.
You'll just be in the team tank until Spurs reach 60 wins.
How are they going to get better if their record is 40-45 wins over the next couple of years and the Atlanta picks don't turn out to be better and they don't want to make any trades to upgrade the roster?
thiste
12-23-2024, 05:43 PM
Today it's for a week. Soon it will be for a month. And you know what's next.
Congratulations Victor! #GSG
Seventyniner
12-23-2024, 05:46 PM
He's gonna grab some MVP votes for sure.
I didn't realize that All-NBA teams went positionless starting last year. My assumption that Wemby has a ceiling of 2nd team was because Jokic is still clearly better, but if Wemby continues to improve at the rate he has been, he could be a borderline top 5 player by the end of the year and get onto the first team.
scott
12-23-2024, 05:50 PM
How are they going to get better if their record is 40-45 wins over the next couple of years and the Atlanta picks don't turn out to be better and they don't want to make any trades to upgrade the roster?
It's too bad that players don't get better and that no non-lottery pick has ever panned out, and we're just kind of stuck with this team forever.
RC_Drunkford
12-23-2024, 05:50 PM
How are they going to get better if their record is 40-45 wins over the next couple of years and the Atlanta picks don't turn out to be better and they don't want to make any trades to upgrade the roster?
they could trade for Shaedon Sharpe. He's the next Michael Jordan and would make them the title favorite
thiste
12-23-2024, 05:52 PM
He's gonna grab some MVP votes for sure.
I didn't realize that All-NBA teams went positionless starting last year. My assumption that Wemby has a ceiling of 2nd team was because Jokic is still clearly better, but if Wemby continues to improve at the rate he has been, he could be a borderline top 5 player by the end of the year and get onto the first team.
I've heard pundits say by the end of the season there's a real chance it's between AD & Victor for that fifth 1st team spot.
KingKev
12-23-2024, 05:56 PM
PLAYA Of The Week
well deserved. just hope he has a nice game against embiid tonight.
thiste
12-23-2024, 06:11 PM
How are they going to get better if their record is 40-45 wins over the next couple of years and the Atlanta picks don't turn out to be better and they don't want to make any trades to upgrade the roster?
Simple, just do it like the Thunder & Rockets have been doing.
Team Record:
SEASON
THUNDER
ROCKETS
SPURS
2019-20
44-28
44-28
32-39
2020-21
22-50
17-55
33-39
2021-22
24-58
20-62
34-48
2022-23
40-42
22-60
22-60
2023-24
57-25
41-41
22-60
2024-25
22-5 (~67w)
19-9 (~56w)
15-13 (~44w)
If we're not too stupid, we could be looking at ~55 wins at the end of next season, and we're right in the mix.
rascal
12-23-2024, 06:14 PM
It's too bad that players don't get better and that no non-lottery pick has ever panned out, and we're just kind of stuck with this team forever.
So you're hoping for this roster to improve enough to be good enough to be a contender as is or hitting on a 2nd all star level player in the non lottery. Good luck with that.
BatManu20
12-23-2024, 06:16 PM
Nice. Well-deserved. Joker or Giannis are gonna win MVP tbh, barring a huge collapse. But Wemby should definitely be an All-Star this season if he keeps up this pace.
rascal
12-23-2024, 06:17 PM
Simple, just do it like the Thunder & Rockets have been doing.
Team Record:
SEASON
THUNDER
ROCKETS
SPURS
2019-20
44-28
44-28
32-39
2020-21
22-50
17-55
33-39
2021-22
24-58
20-62
34-48
2022-23
40-42
22-60
22-60
2023-24
57-25
41-41
22-60
2024-25
22-5 (~67w)
19-9 (~56w)
15-13 (~44w)
If we're not too stupid, we could be looking at ~55 wins at the end of next season, and we're right in the mix.
So people in here really do think this core is a title contender in the next two years as is.
KingKev
12-23-2024, 06:20 PM
Simple, just do it like the Thunder & Rockets have been doing.
Team Record:
SEASON
THUNDER
ROCKETS
SPURS
2019-20
44-28
44-28
32-39
2020-21
22-50
17-55
33-39
2021-22
24-58
20-62
34-48
2022-23
40-42
22-60
22-60
2023-24
57-25
41-41
22-60
2024-25
22-5 (~67w)
19-9 (~56w)
15-13 (~44w)
If we're not too stupid, we could be looking at ~55 wins at the end of next season, and we're right in the mix.
Rockets and OKC can draft though.
timtonymanu
12-23-2024, 06:23 PM
Rascal as usual showing his low IQ.
scott
12-23-2024, 06:27 PM
So you're hoping for this roster to improve enough to be good enough to be a contender as is or hitting on a 2nd all star level player in the non lottery. Good luck with that.
I'm not hoping for anything - I realize that there are a lot of different ways to build a championship team. You're the only one who thinks there is only one way (a way that kept your favorite team, the Blazers, in the basement). Good luck with that.
LeBowen
12-23-2024, 06:37 PM
I'm not hoping for anything - I realize that there are a lot of different ways to build a championship team. You're the only one who thinks there is only one way (a way that kept your favorite team, the Blazers, in the basement). Good luck with that.
We got Wemby and we literally can't tank unless he suffers a serious injury.
At the end of last season we sat our 2nd, 3rd and 4th best player, it didn't matter.
We'll probably get close to doubling our wins from last season and we added just two veterans as complementary pieces.
And as I wrote many times, just look at other top teams and their rosters. Thunder have one top10 pick who's an important rotation member.
Grizzlies got two and somehow they keep winning with G-leaguers even when their entire roster is injured.
Mavs managed to build a contender around Luka with very little after they wasted most of their good assets.
Nuggets won a ring with one top10 pick and managed to pick the best player in the league in second round.
Same goes for the Bucks. Second best player in the league was 15th pick and their second option during that championship run was a second round pick.
We got Champagnie who was discarded not that long ago and basically out of the league playing better than most lottery picks. And our core pieces were #1, #4, #9 and #11 picks. We don't deserve any more lottery luck.
And yet we'll be able to move into top10 with ease this year with our two picks that will probably be in #11-18 range or so.
And yet people still want to tank as if we haven't seen enough examples of teams tanking for too long and never being able to recover from it.
With that being said, I also think we must make one big move this summer, if not two.
thiste
12-23-2024, 06:38 PM
So people in here really do think this core is a title contender in the next two years as is.
By no means am I implying that this roster is complete, far from it. But if you don't see the potential of this Wemby-Vassell-Sochan-Castle core, I can do nothing for you.
Rockets have lots of very good players but they have no one even close to Wemby. Even in OKC I don't believe SGA has Wemby's potential.
As I said, « If we're not too stupid », as in, on the condition that we make the right moves (as we did this season with Castle, CP3 & Barnes) I can absolutely see us finishing top 6 next season.
scott
12-23-2024, 06:41 PM
We got Wemby and we literally can't tank unless he suffers a serious injury.
At the end of last season we sat our 2nd, 3rd and 4th best player, it didn't matter.
We'll probably get close to doubling our wins from last season and we added just two veterans as complementary pieces.
And as I wrote many times, just look at other top teams and their rosters. Thunder have one top10 pick who's an important rotation member.
Grizzlies got two and somehow they keep winning with G-leaguers even when their entire roster is injured.
Mavs managed to build a contender around Luka with very little after they wasted most of their good assets.
Nuggets won a ring with one top10 pick and managed to pick the best player in the league in second round.
Same goes for the Bucks. Second best player in the league was 15th pick and their second option during that championship run was a second round pick.
We got Champagnie who was discarded not that long ago and basically out of the league playing better than most lottery picks. And our core pieces were #1, #4, #9 and #11 picks. We don't deserve any more lottery luck.
And yet we'll be able to move into top10 with ease this year with our two picks that will probably be in #11-18 range or so.
And yet people still want to tank as if we haven't seen enough examples of teams tanking for too long and never being able to recover from it.
With that being said, I also think we must make one big move this summer, if not two.
You forgot that in addition to all of that... we also have seen with our very own eyes this team get a Top 3 player from the #15 pick. That doesn't mean we're going to repeat that, but idiots like rascal who think the only way forward is by tanking are comical. He needs to go spend more time at BlazerTalk.com
rascal
12-23-2024, 06:47 PM
You forgot that in addition to all of that... we also have seen with our very own eyes this team get a Top 3 player from the #15 pick. That doesn't mean we're going to repeat that, but idiots like rascal who think the only way forward is by tanking are comical. He needs to go spend more time at BlazerTalk.com
Tanking is what made the Spurs land Wemby. Blazers didn't have the luck to land Wemby, had they instead of Scoot they would be better than the Spurs are now.
LeBowen
12-23-2024, 06:54 PM
Tanking is what made the Spurs land Wemby. Blazers didn't have the luck to land Wemby, had they instead of Scoot they would be better than the Spurs are now.
We got Wemby because we were horrible enough to tank.
We got Timmy because Admiral went down, Sean also got injured and it was a perfect opportunity to take advantage of.
I don't know how to reply anymore without being rude. How fucking hard is it to understand that Wemby is a top10 player already and that he wants to be on GOAT trajectory. What the fuck do you even want to do? Tell Wemby to sit down when we already have no chance to get top3 odds so we can roll the 5% or whatever dice yet again?
thiste
12-23-2024, 06:58 PM
Tanking is what made the Spurs land Wemby. Blazers didn't have the luck to land Wemby, had they instead of Scoot they would be better than the Spurs are now.
What they don't yet have on the court, Spurs have in the form of a gazillion draft picks more than the Blazers do in the coming decade. Most of them will be trade assets.
rascal
12-23-2024, 06:58 PM
We got Wemby because we were horrible enough to tank.
We got Timmy because Admiral went down, Sean also got injured and it was a perfect opportunity to take advantage of.
I don't know how to reply anymore without being rude. How fucking hard is it to understand that Wemby is a top10 player already and that he wants to be on GOAT trajectory. What the fuck do you even want to do? Tell Wemby to sit down when we already have no chance to get top3 odds so we can roll the 5% or whatever dice yet again?
Spurs tanked both times to get Wemby and to get Duncan. They were sitting players to get losses to land Wemby. Without tanking there are no titles in San Antonio.
LeBowen
12-23-2024, 07:01 PM
Spurs tanked both times to get Wemby and to get Duncan. They were sitting players to get losses to land Wemby. Without tanking there are no titles in San Antonio.
Holy shit are you even a real human? What the fuck is your point?
Would it be better to have another top3 picks than a 15th pick? Obviously.
Can we do it with healthy Wemby? Obviously not.
We got a player who's going to be the best player in the league maybe as soon as 2026, we don't need to tank anymore.
A competent front office would easily figure it out with all the picks we own. End of story.
Stop repeating scenarios that literally cannot happen for us, what's the point of that?
benefactor
12-23-2024, 08:15 PM
Holy shit are you even a real human? What the fuck is your point?
Would it be better to have another top3 picks than a 15th pick? Obviously.
Can we do it with healthy Wemby? Obviously not.
We got a player who's going to be the best player in the league maybe as soon as 2026, we don't need to tank anymore.
A competent front office would easily figure it out with all the picks we own. End of story.
Stop repeating scenarios that literally cannot happen for us, what's the point of that?
Rascal is clinically depressed. He's been doing this here for two decades.
KobesAchilles
12-23-2024, 08:29 PM
Joker is gonna be a 4X MVP and somehow be underrated as a player. I’ve never seen anything like him before. His greatness is insane and we are lucky Denver is a cheap POS team otherwise they’d have a dynasty.
Is the all star game going to be positionless too? I haven’t paid attention to the format tbh. Last year I just voted for Wemby and didn’t even look at the format. Something I do feel bad about is that for some reason SA doesn’t vote for all-stars. It’s embarrassing tbh. They are like the 9th biggest city in the US and somehow Memphis and Indy votes more than SA. Never mind OKC. We are going to need a France to step up and vote for him to have a shot at being a starter
The Truth #6
12-23-2024, 08:40 PM
Top eight picks are typically now very young and it's sort of a roll of the dice because they have barely even played basketball much. Drafting 10 through 15, I'm not going to say you're getting better talent, but it does afford less of a pressure to have to pick these roll of the dice players, and instead you can draft quality role players.
I still would like to have an obvious second star type player next to Victor, but we still need to load up on quality complimentary pieces, and we can still do that in the draft, and honestly we can't afford too many stars now with the new rules anyway.
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