Game Thread: Spurs 15-14 @ Knicks 19-10 11 AM CST/ 7 PM Riga/7 AM Honolulu

[Obstructed_View]

Corey Joseph?!
The guy doing color. Did I get his name wrong? I'm old AF. He was drafted by the Spurs. I think it's Cory Alexander. Drafted in the mid 90s when the Spurs needed a point guard.

[BatManu20]

Tre Jones cheesing layups in crunch time :lol. How Spursy tbh.

[timtonymanu]

Yeah this is over, I’ve had enough of this roster. Spurs need to make changes now. Victor is too good to miss the playoffs this year.

[spursparker9]

Dagger. Too bad Bridges turned into Jordan :lol

[LeBowen]

Yeah, typical.
You can call it luck or whatever, but we just don't have the personnel to get over the hump.

Keldon and Devin are two highest paid players and contribute absolutely nothing.
PATFO needs to get over themselves with family approach and improve the roster because Wemby is ready.
Like this we're wasting a season of his because even if we make the play-in, we're not beating anyone without a legit second and third option.

[slick'81]

Finally cp3

[Tyronn Lue]

Finally cp3
This is where the Spurs get a stop and Champagnie turns it over again.

[TheBallsbreakers]

So who we gonna blame for Bridges going off?

[Obstructed_View]

So glad Castle gets to sit and watch Jones and Vassell in crunch time. That'll fuckin teach him.

[slick'81]

Yeah, typical.
You can call it luck or whatever, but we just don't have the personnel to get over the hump.

Keldon and Devin are two highest paid players and contribute absolutely nothing.
PATFO needs to get over themselves with family approach and improve the roster because Wemby is ready.
Like this we're wasting a season of his because even if we make the play-in, we're not beating anyone without a legit second and third option.

yea ,spurs need to make a deal asap

[spursparker9]

Yeah, typical.
You can call it luck or whatever, but we just don't have the personnel to get over the hump.

Keldon and Devin are two highest paid players and contribute absolutely nothing.
PATFO needs to get over themselves with family approach and improve the roster because Wemby is ready.
Like this we're wasting a season of his because even if we make the play-in, we're not beating anyone without a legit second and third option.

Can we trade both of them for Fox. Add in one of the picks as well

[timtonymanu]

If Vassell for fox is really on the table, you gotta pull the trigger. Stop being conservative. We’re not landing Giannis or Luka. Get talent on this team.

[BatManu20]

Wemby is gassed. He needed a break at the midway point of the 4th qtr but our team is too dogshit without him on the floor so he didn't get a breather.

[crc2120]

Knicks fans wanted to trade Bridges a month ago, now he’s burning us for 40 smh…

[spursparker9]

So who we gonna blame for Bridges going off?

I think Barnes missed a few assignments in the 1st half and Bridges got hot

[onechance87]

This loss is on vassell.

[TheBallsbreakers]

Let us get a stop

[100%duncan]

For the record, Im done with Vassell no matter what happens at this point. Time to ship this dude out, too inconsistent to even be a 3rd option.

[crc2120]

Agreed…

[spursparker9]

Knicks fans wanted to trade Bridges a month ago, now he’s burning us for 40 smh…

Its a fluke xmas day game tbh :lol

He will return to earth the next game

[BatManu20]

So glad Castle gets to sit and watch Jones and Vassell in crunch time. That'll fuckin teach him.

His defense is sorely needed, but he's such a liability offensively right now because he has no confidence in his jump shot, so he just keep barreling his way to the basket and getting blocked in the process tbh.

[baseline bum]

Knicks fans wanted to trade Bridges a month ago, now he’s burning us for 40 smh…

Happens when you start a game with Devin Vassell guarding you

[TheBallsbreakers]

So glad Castle gets to sit and watch Jones and Vassell in crunch time. That'll fuckin teach him.
Mitch's lineups are getting more head-scratching by each game.

[slick'81]

Bad bounce

[Thomas82]

That overturned 3 killed our momentum. Ugh!!

[Spurs Brazil]

Vassell can’t even get a damn board. Awful performance

[Fireball]

slapstick to end the game

[skin27]

:lmao

[baseline bum]

Fucking Suckhan

[poopbox]

This is one of those games where if you just have a second star player you win this. We have exactly one guy on a 15 man roster who can get an isolation bucket or make something out of nothing and that's Victor.

Today's a perfect example of why Sochan needs to go. Despite his scoring and efficiency every one of his buckets was wide open. Every single time the Knicks played any defense whatsoever on him he folded, including somehow getting two lobs rejected. How you get two lobs rejected in one game?

Devin no showing again when it matters. Both him and Sochan bitch up in the clutch more oftern than when they come through. It's crazy that we still need chris paul to be a clutch performer for when he literally might only play another year after this one.

This team isn't taking the next steps until we have some other players not named Victor that makes the other team actually worry, cause right now we don't have one.

[tonight...you]

Welp. That's it.

Awesome game to watch though.
Wish it ended better.

[BatManu20]

Lol Sperms. Fuck this roster outside of Wemby.

[LeBowen]

Like look at this shit, look at the fucking offensive board they get on te last fucking play of the game.

Whenever someone says Devin is a hooper, he's exactly that.
All style, no substance player for casuals who just watch highlights.

[KDKSpurs24]

Vassell didn’t really want that ball man! I don’t care want anyone says!! Pathetic!

[spursparker9]

:lol VASESELL CAN'T EVEN DIVE PROERPLY

[slick'81]

Wemby looks devastated

[TekXX]

Is Pop calling in rotations from his hospital bed?

[timtonymanu]

Such a shitty way to lose.

[Obstructed_View]

Mitch's lineups are getting more head-scratching by each game.
They said Pop talks to him multiple times a day. This is classic halfbrain lineup management.

[Frenchfred]

At least Spurs are not getting blown out of the water. That means that they need another player to get over the hump

[timtonymanu]

Also fuck Vassell. I’m done with this soft injury prone loser.

[Pauleta14]

Spurs can only count on Wemby and Paul to close

What a roster smh

[Larry O]

This is an non-rebounding team! SMH...

[tonight...you]

That overturned 3 killed our momentum. Ugh!!
KAT at his most clutch.

[Leetonidas]

Story of the fucking season. Spurs getting demolished on the glass yet again to lose the game. Mitch is a retard for not playing Bassey at all

[poopbox]

And how do you not guard Bridges? Literally the knicks whole offense for damn near a quarter but the Devin's, Sochan's, and Julian's of the world somehow manage to leave him open every game.

[TheBallsbreakers]

Great fucking game. That's aight.
I am confident Wemby's gonna make the Knicks his bitch in the near future.

[John B]

How is Castle not in the stretch to help guard?? Stupid call by Mitch

[Kawhi Duncan]

We choked... Wemby took 16 threes... If he took to threes and went inside on the other 6 shots, we win... Someone needs to actually coach him... And he rebounded well today until the 4th... He gave up crucial rebounds... He really doesn't fight for rebounds... How do u not rebound a freethrow?

[baseline bum]

Need to churn the fuck outta this roster. How do you piss away a 42/18/4/4 game from Wemby? :pctoss

[BatManu20]

That overturned 3 killed our momentum. Ugh!!

CP3's flop killed us tbh :lol

[LeBowen]

Devin, Keldon, Collins and Barnes earn $83M combined.
55% of our payroll.
Enough said.

[Obstructed_View]

Like look at this shit, look at the fucking offensive board they get on te last fucking play of the game.

Whenever someone says Devin is a hooper, he's exactly that.
All style, no substance player for casuals who just watch highlights.
Are any of the players who grew up emulating Kobe worth a shit? They love isos, they love heroball, and they love buzzer beaters.

[slick'81]

Castle roty talk just went up in smoke

[YoungbuckMurray]

Where the fuck was castle in the last bit of the game? At least he will defend and play like a dog unlike some

[Pauleta14]

Also can't wait for the Spurs to have a proper coach

[Duncan2177]

Wemby deserves better.

[LeBowen]

We choked... Wemby took 16 threes... If he took to threes and went inside on the other 6 shots, we win... Someone needs to actually coach him... And he rebounded well today until the 4th... He gave up crucial rebounds... He really doesn't fight for rebounds... How do u not rebound a freethrow?

Shut the fuck up you absolute retard.

[TekXX]

They said Pop talks to him multiple times a day. This is classic halfbrain lineup management.

I wish this organization wasn't absolutely controlled by Pop, Mitch can tell his outdated ass to take a hike to Italy but he can't because he wants to get promoted eventually.

[baseline bum]

Also fuck Vassell. I’m done with this soft injury prone loser.

Gotta move him for a second star before the bottom falls out on his value just like it did with Keldon.

[Fizziksman]

Victor is gonna leave the Spurs and I don't blame him.

[slick'81]

We still in the middle of a rebuild but having wemby makes us competitive no matter what

[Obstructed_View]

At least Spurs are not getting blown out of the water. That means that they need another player to get over the hump
They have him. He watched the fourth quarter from the bench while the Spurs gave the game away at the end.

Again.

[TDomination]

Fun game to watch but sucks we lost.
it was great seeing spurs on Christmas again

i felt like that challenge where the call was reversed and they wiped the Wemby 3, that changed everything

[YoungbuckMurray]

Also that 4 point play being called off really turned the tide of that game

[onechance87]

Vassell wasn’t the one that committed two dumb turnovers in the last couple of minutes. Maybe you meant redeem time for Champagne?

No redeeming for vassell today.

[sananspursfan21]

Once again, can’t string together more than one good possession. You’ll get away with beating the bottom half of the league that way, but not the top. Disappointed, but to be expected

[TheBallsbreakers]

We choked... Wemby took 16 threes... If he took to threes and went inside on the other 6 shots, we win... Someone needs to actually coach him... And he rebounded well today until the 4th... He gave up crucial rebounds... He really doesn't fight for rebounds... How do u not rebound a freethrow?
Oh STFU.
We ain't even in this game if he wasn't in this game. Are you this dense?

[sananspursfan21]

And the overturning of that 3 and 1 was bull. Was that challenged by NY?

[Ice009]

Fuck Bridges and his bullshit game. Edit : Shouldn't talk shit about Bridges. He had a great game.

I'm sick of losing all these winnable games. Chris Paul playing tough. Victor tried to carry the Spurs, but he needs other players to step up with the game on the line and help him. Chris Paul is doing it, but the young guys should be ashamed. Not a fan of Vassell not showing up.

[Gibbz]

Mitch benching odds-on ROTY Castle because these other fucking scrubs got healthy is gonna make me turn on him pretty quick.

[tonight...you]

And how do you not guard Bridges? Literally the knicks whole offense for damn near a quarter but the Devin's, Sochan's, and Julian's of the world somehow manage to leave him open every game.
For the most part they were on him pretty well.
This was just his day.

[Kawhi Duncan]

This is one of those games where if you just have a second star player you win this. We have exactly one guy on a 15 man roster who can get an isolation bucket or make something out of nothing and that's Victor.

Today's a perfect example of why Sochan needs to go. Despite his scoring and efficiency every one of his buckets was wide open. Every single time the Knicks played any defense whatsoever on him he folded, including somehow getting two lobs rejected. How you get two lobs rejected in one game?

Devin no showing again when it matters. Both him and Sochan bitch up in the clutch more oftern than when they come through. It's crazy that we still need chris paul to be a clutch performer for when he literally might only play another year after this one.

This team isn't taking the next steps until we have some other players not named Victor that makes the other team actually worry, cause right now we don't have one.

Finally someone with common sense... I've called his defense overrated... His offense is non-existent and dependent on the other team completely ignoring him to clog the paint when anyone else drives... Despite Wemby having a good offensive game, we only scored 114... Our offense has been worse with Sochan back

[TekXX]

Where the fuck was castle in the last bit of the game? At least he will defend and play like a dog unlike some

Too busy trying to figure out how to finish at the rim.

[rascal]

Where the fuck was castle in the last bit of the game? At least he will defend and play like a dog unlike some

Castle was struggling offensively, getting blocked at the rim.

[Tyronn Lue]

Knicks beat a team at home that they should have beaten, but they struggled some in the 4th until everyone caught fire from 3 and the Spurs couldn't get a stop. Then the Spurs couldn't get a rebound. Many of the Spurs players would be bench guys on other teams. I still think they are out performing their expectations for this season.

[slick'81]

I wonder what vassells value is currently

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Another game where we shit the bed completely in the fourth. 90% of this roster is beyond trash

[Kawhi Duncan]

Shut the fuck up you absolute retard.

I like smart basketball... Y'all NBA 2k babies love to watch ppl go 6/16 from three because the 6 made ones were from the logo... I like winning basketball

[Frenchfred]

We choked... Wemby took 16 threes... If he took to threes and went inside on the other 6 shots, we win... Someone needs to actually coach him... And he rebounded well today until the 4th... He gave up crucial rebounds... He really doesn't fight for rebounds... How do u not rebound a freethrow?

are you blaming every loss on Wemby? A guy playing in his second year making 12 million a year when you have other players not doing anything? Why do you hate the guy?

[Obstructed_View]

are you blaming every loss on Wemby? A guy playing in his second year making 12 million a year when you have other players not doing anything? Why do you hate the guy?
Wondering how long before you recognize the schtick. I blocked him a month ago.

[KDKSpurs24]

I’m done with Vassell. He needs to be moved. Castle needs to be playing more.

[rascal]

Also that 4 point play being called off really turned the tide of that game

That was the correct call. Can't blame the refs for this loss.

[Kawhi Duncan]

Oh STFU.
We ain't even in this game if he wasn't in this game. Are you this dense?

Ur mad because I want him to make smarter plays? Y'all are the type to never criticize players

[TDomination]

Some of yall are so dramatic.

progress is being made. Team is getting better.
we’ll get better players next year Lord willing

[onechance87]

I wonder what vassells value is currently

not good my guy.Dude has a big contract and looks like hes getting worst.

[Gibbz]

We choked... Wemby took 16 threes... If he took to threes and went inside on the other 6 shots, we win... Someone needs to actually coach him... And he rebounded well today until the 4th... He gave up crucial rebounds... He really doesn't fight for rebounds... How do u not rebound a freethrow?

Unserious.

[Ice009]

Victor is gonna leave the Spurs and I don't blame him.

Darn, this just sunk in. I don't think he's going to mess around and give them forever to get him a decent roster so that he can really compete. He really is playing great and I keep forgetting his age. I keep thinking he's older than he is.

[TheBallsbreakers]

Ur mad because I want him to make smarter plays? Y'all are the type to never criticize players
You sound pathetic, blob

[slick'81]

Some of yall are so dramatic.

progress is being made. Team is getting better.
we’ll get better players next year Lord willing

keep pounding the rock and collecting 2nd rounders

[LeBowen]

I like smart basketball... Y'all NBA 2k babies love to watch ppl go 6/16 from three because the 6 made ones were from the logo... I like winning basketball

You're a fucking retard with 500 posts of nothing but nonsense.
And you're also illiterate.

[Seventyniner]

To me, the (non) call that really swung things was when Brunson pushed Tre in the back on a fast break layup, causing him to fall down. Not only does Tre not get the and 1 he deserved, he fell down and the Knicks got a 5 on 4 break that turned into a Bridges three.

[LeBowen]

Some of yall are so dramatic.

progress is being made. Team is getting better.
we’ll get better players next year Lord willing

That's the thing...is the team getting better or is it just Wemby?
We'd still be a top3 worst team in the league without him.
Jeremy and Champ made significant improvements, others are the same players they were.

[TheBallsbreakers]

Darn, this just sunk in. I don't think he's going to mess around and give them forever to get him a decent roster so that he can really compete. He really is playing great and I keep forgetting his age. I keep thinking he's older than he is.
It is downright ludicrous. Sometimes we take for granted what he is doing and just forget that he is only 20 fucking years old.
I have seen enough and I am fully behind the Wemby-GOAT hype, if he stays healthy.
Tonight just validates that.
He is 20 years old and players are just literally adjusting to his presence - on both ends!

[rascal]

Darn, this just sunk in. I don't think he's going to mess around and give them forever to get him a decent roster so that he can really compete. He really is playing great and I keep forgetting his age. I keep thinking he's older than he is.

The Lakers will come calling if the Spurs don't surround Wemby with better players.

[timtonymanu]

Gotta move him for a second star before the bottom falls out on his value just like it did with Keldon.

Yeah teams will start to notice. God if he was the hold out for a Lauri trade, looking back now I would have 100% pulled the trigger.

[TheBallsbreakers]

You're a fucking retard with 500 posts of nothing but nonsense.
And you're also illiterate.
Calling the dude illiterate is overdoing it a tad but he is for sure a duhmmeeeh

[stephen jackson]

Yeah wemby will
not put up with this trash roster and he shouldn’t spurs need to move into the new generation and make a move and stop being pussys

tre jones can’t compete in this league
vassel is inconsistent
and not having a physicals rebounding center is unacceptable

[itzsoweezee]

Sochan laughing it up with Knicks players after the buzzer while Wemby looked fucking pissed

[slick'81]

The Lakers will come calling if the Spurs don't surround Wemby with better players.

u mean everybody :rollin

[Ice009]

Ur mad because I want him to make smarter plays? Y'all are the type to never criticize players

If you're being genuine, sure, you can say that, but the Spurs have no chance whatsoever without Victor. This team is full of subpar players. What more do you expect a 20 year old Superstar to do who is still learning? He played very well as far as I'm concerned. Yeah he made mistakes and some bad decisions, but Spurs have no chance without his game. A lot of his teammates aren't worth a shit.

[Frenchfred]

Ur mad because I want him to make smarter plays? Y'all are the type to never criticize players

we all want him to play better but he is in second year and he is the best scorer, best rebounder, best blocker, second in steal and assists. His game tonight 42 points (on 52% FG), 18 rebounds, 4 assists, 4 blocks and 1 steal; the loss is not on him

[rascal]

u mean everybody :rollin

Lakers are always the ones targeting the top players in the league off other teams. That's how they win championships.

[onechance87]

We need a second big that rebounds and defends.This team turns into shit when wemby sits.

[Ice009]

It is downright ludicrous. Sometimes we take for granted what he is doing and just forget that he is only 20 fucking years old.
I have seen enough and I am fully behind the Wemby-GOAT hype, if he stays healthy.
Tonight just validates that.
He is 20 years old and players are just literally adjusting to his presence - on both ends!

Yep, it's freaking wild. He's getting better and better, and man, when I remember he's only 20 and being mentioned along with some greats already, that's crazy. Like tonight's game, seeing him mentioned about beating Wilt's Christmas debut, he pretty much tied it if that foul wasn't called :(. I really wanted him to get it.

[baseline bum]

Yeah teams will start to notice. God if he was the hold out for a Lauri trade, looking back now I would have 100% pulled the trigger.

Ainge probably wanted our 20131

[SPURt]

That made Christmas sad :( eating ass on offensive rebounds, just sad

[Larry O]

Barnes was trash, yet again! Seems like he allowed that player of the week go to his head, SMH...

[Ice009]

Ainge probably wanted our 20131

Maybe not the place to ask, but what's the deal with the 20131 I keep seeing written instead of 2031? Is it some sort of running joke around here?

[scott]

To me, the (non) call that really swung things was when Brunson pushed Tre in the back on a fast break layup, causing him to fall down. Not only does Tre not get the and 1 he deserved, he fell down and the Knicks got a 5 on 4 break that turned into a Bridges three.

Great call out. This was just as crucial as the called off Wemby 3.

Huge miss by the refs on a pretty blatant foul by Brunson.

[Gibbz]

Spurs are 10-7 when Castle plays 30+ minutes, 2-6 when he plays 20 or fewer.

[Raven]

mitch singlehandedly losing us multiple games

[timtonymanu]

Maybe not the place to ask, but what's the deal with the 20131 I keep seeing written instead of 2031? Is it some sort of running joke around here?

I think some poster mistyped it once and said the “20131 pick” and people have been memeing it since. :lol

[baseline bum]

Maybe not the place to ask, but what's the deal with the 20131 I keep seeing written instead of 2031? Is it some sort of running joke around here?

Pretty much since it's so far into the future that pick is a seventh grader. I blame scott, I think he made that shit up. :lol

[BatManu20]

mitch singlehandedly losing us multiple games

Our stealth tank commander tbh.

[objective]

Spurs are 10-7 when Castle plays 30+ minutes, 2-6 when he plays 20 or fewer.

Big Brain Mitch Johnson coaching a win into a loss, like he's been groomed to.

[Mr. Body]

A couple possessions the other way and it's a win. If Bridges doesn't have the game of his life, it's a blowout.

[scott]

Not mad at this loss. It was a great game and just further cemented that Wemby is a top 10 player in the league RIGHT NOW and he's only scratching the surface of his potential. GET THIS MAN SOME HELP.
While the rest of the team is yucking it up with the Knicks after the game, Wemby is ignoring little kids on his way to the locker room because he is PISSED OFF and TIRED OF LOSING. Love that from our star. This ain't a fucking rec league, Wemby is here to snatch souls, not make friends.
LOL Devin Vassell. What a fucking loser. The Devin Truther Club has been right about him all along. @spurraider21 KobesAchilles (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=50221) KingKev (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=52391) - no one can ever tell us shit about this clown ever again
Devin + Keldon + Barnes + Collins = $83,089,026 this season. 59.1% of the salary cap. LOL. The good news is, imagine all the productive salary we can match with that.
Is Castle taking finishing lessons from Blake Wesley? Holy shit, he was getting his shit pushed at the rim.
Liked what I saw from Jeremy today. Champ did his role well. Really nice outing from Tre. CP3 doing CP3 things. All positives.
In a season where we are making a play-in push but it's still largely a learning season... this is a good loss. Wemby will learn from this and hold a grudge for the rest of his career. I like that shit like this fuels this man.
Jesus Christ Mikal Bridges. Wow. Can only tip the cap. But also, LOL Devin Vassell's defense.


Let's go across the river and beat the shit out of Brooklyn on Friday.

[LeBowen]

A couple possessions the other way and it's a win. If Bridges doesn't have the game of his life, it's a blowout.

Jeremy went 3-3 from 3pt, all 3 made in key moments.
Bridges scoring 40 is more likely than Jeremy hitting every shot, tbh.

[BatManu20]

Part of me wants to blame Mitch, but the realist in me knows this roster is simply dogshit and devoid of NBA-level difference makers. Having to rely on scrubs like Devin Vassell, Keldon Johnson, and Harrison Barnes to win games on the road in tough environments is a tall task for anyone, especially when those guys all terrible defensively.

Having to ask 40 year-old Chris Paul to be our 2nd best player every night :lol

[scott]

Pretty much since it's so far into the future that pick is a seventh grader. I blame scott (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=150), I think he made that shit up. :lol

I think it was actually exstatic who had that typo in a post, or maybe it was even in timvp's draft day article? Either way, it's definitely the thing for now on.

[Raven]

We need a second big that rebounds and defends.This team turns into shit when wemby sits.

we just mitch to stop his bullshit with sochan as a center

[Raven]

Part of me wants to blame Mitch, but the realist in me knows this roster is simply dogshit and devoid of NBA-level difference makers. Having to rely on scrubs like Devin Vassell, Keldon Johnson, and Harrison Barnes to win games on the road in tough environments is a tall task for anyone, especially when those guys all terrible defensively.

new york has 0 difference makers, so how do you explain that?

[Manu-of-steel]

Mitch's decision to go with Tre instead of Caste was ok. Tre played nice. I didnt like Vassell and Barnes playing minutes while not being productive. They were liabilities on today's game

[timtonymanu]

The contracts to Dev, Keldon and Zach were so shortsighted by PATFO. Giving out long term contracts to guys that did well on bad teams is always a big no-no and now the spurs are paying for it.

[Robz4000]

Smells like Pop is coaching from the shadows with these rotations tbh.

[Davidicus]

we just mitch to stop his bullshit with sochan as a center

Agreed. Was yelling at the TV. Anyone with half a brain would’ve known before tipoff that the Knicks would just run around him down low. You need Bassey as an anchor to deter. Jeremy can rebound but he’s not a rim protector. Is Mitch pulling a tankathon for Pop? Jfc

[itzsoweezee]

new york has 0 difference makers, so how do you explain that?

The Knicks are stacked. They don’t have depth, but their top 6 are really good.

[Robz4000]

The contracts to Dev, Keldon and Zach were so shortsighted by PATFO. Giving out long term contracts to guys that did well on bad teams is always a big no-no and now the spurs are paying for it.

Keldon's isnt bad in the grand scheme of things, but agreed on the other two and the sentiment.

[BatManu20]

new york has 0 difference makers, so how do you explain that?

Bridges going off for 15 points in the last 7 minutes of the 4th qtr and scoring 41 overall certainly suggests he's a difference maker. Or at least he can be at times, along with Brunson and Towns. Spurs don't have a single guy outside of Wemby we can rely on to score points consistently. Castle is the only other plus defender on our roster but he can't shoot the ball, which forces him to take bad/forced shots at the rim that almost never go in or get blocked, so he's largely unplayable in close games, despite us desperately needing his defense.

[timtonymanu]

Keldon's isnt bad in the grand scheme of things, but agreed on the other two and the sentiment.

Really? Cause I see a guy like Champ doing things that Keldon can’t do on a fundamental level. Like it’s criminal how much the Spurs are paying Keldon.

[LeBowen]

Really? Cause I see a guy like Champ doing things that Keldon can’t do on a fundamental level. Like it’s criminal how much the Spurs are paying Keldon.

Keldon signed an extension two years ago, it was way under rookie max extension. He's made no improvements whatosever since, but it's an easily moveable contract.
Devin is paid way more and is nowhere to be seen, with just as bad defense.

I'm not buying rust and lack of rythm arguments when it comes to basic rotations on defense.

[Mugen]

Just way too many losers on the team tbh. Can't wait til we turn over 90% of this roster and bring in actual winning players with BBIQ.

The more losses like this, the better tbh. And sooner rather than later. Really helps you weed out who needs to be jettisoned.

[dn0774]

Is Castle afraid to elevate in traffic? He has moments where he shows serious bounce (that breakaway dunk in the 2nd), yet when near anyone he always resorts to his deceleration move that seems to get blocked half the time. Early in the season he had a 1v1 break against Jalen Green and he bailed out on a play that should’ve been a layup or free throws, seemed almost scared to test Jalen Green of all people. I’m a big fan of Castles potential, just feels like there’s some kind apprehension on his part to fully commit to rim attacks.

[spurs10]

Vassell is a liability on defense and doesn't score, not our #2.

[thiste]

Last 2 games were highly winnable. We couldn't execute in clutch time. Of course it's easier at home than away. Let's hope this is a good lesson for our guys.

[Robz4000]

Just way too many losers on the team tbh. Can't wait til we turn over 90% of this roster and bring in actual winning players with BBIQ.

The more losses like this, the better tbh. And sooner rather than later. Really helps you weed out who needs to be jettisoned.

Problem is we know they won't jettison the players that need to be. Watch them trade Castle over Vassell tbh.

[LeBowen]

Problem is we know they won't jettison the players that need to be. Watch them trade Castle over Vassell tbh.

There's no way they trade Castle, but they'll certainly keep him benched in favor of Devin.

[timtonymanu]

Problem is we know they won't jettison the players that need to be. Watch them trade Castle over Vassell tbh.

God if they do that, I’ll be rooting for Wemby to play somewhere else. Like freaking seriously.

[Raven]

you guys really need to stop considering castle as a sf/sf, he's simply not in any way shape or form and no he is not capable of defending them, at all.

[ace3g]

https://x.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1872012133065703882

[onechance87]

you guys really need to stop considering castle as a sf/sf, he's simply not in any way shape or form and no he is not capable of defending them, at all.

Well he cant be a pg or shooting guard if he cant shoot.Its gonna effect his ability to make plays if he cant shoot.

[Raven]

Well he cant be a pg or shooting guard if he cant shoot.Its gonna effect his ability to make plays if he cant shoot.

he can shoot but he doesn't need to as a pg, he can penetrate which is more important as a pg.

[Mal]

Spurs are 10-7 when Castle plays 30+ minutes, 2-6 when he plays 20 or fewer.

thats called garbage time in most cases

[Ice009]

Is Castle afraid to elevate in traffic? He has moments where he shows serious bounce (that breakaway dunk in the 2nd), yet when near anyone he always resorts to his deceleration move that seems to get blocked half the time. Early in the season he had a 1v1 break against Jalen Green and he bailed out on a play that should’ve been a layup or free throws, seemed almost scared to test Jalen Green of all people. I’m a big fan of Castles potential, just feels like there’s some kind apprehension on his part to fully commit to rim attacks.

To me he looks like a two foot leaper. I don't think he can elevate as well off of one foot on the run. Maybe needs a clear path to plant and elevate off of two feet, so he can't really penerate and get up there? Not sure, though, as I'm/was the opposite of a high flyer. I can talk about shooting, but not really about dunking. Someone else might have to chime in about this one.

[siraulo23]

I’m gonna give Vassell a pass, he’s coming off multiple injuries, he may not fully have his legs under him till next yr

sucks losing two winnable games in a row but fun game, Wemby’s talent on full display in MSG

[onechance87]

I’m gonna give Vassell a pass, he’s coming off multiple injuries, he may not fully have his legs under him till next yr

sucks losing two winnable games in a row but fun game, Wemby’s talent on full display in MSG

a whole year pass damn

[Jordan Jackson]

CP3 and Victor are the only serious competitors on the team. And it hasn’t taken long for some of these dudes compete level to start pissing CP3 off. Some of these players are low iq and goofy Af. It’s annoying to guys who take winning seriously.

“They young”’ or “Need experience”’ is an excuse.

[paperboy77]

Agreed. Was yelling at the TV. Anyone with half a brain would’ve known before tipoff that the Knicks would just run around him down low. You need Bassey as an anchor to deter. Jeremy can rebound but he’s not a rim protector. Is Mitch pulling a tankathon for Pop? Jfc

Sure in the hell does looks like Pops stinky fingers are all over these rotations. Also, it's definitely not Jeremy's fault... he played very well as he has been lately. Bassey IS NOT THE ANSWER either. Maybe Collins would have contributed in a better way than what we got from the center positions.

[LeBowen]

Sure in the hell does looks like Pops stinky fingers are all over these rotations. Also, it's definitely not Jeremy's fault... he played very well as he has been lately. Bassey IS NOT THE ANSWER either. Maybe Collins would have contributed in a better way than what we got from the center positions.

Knicks rotation is also fairly short, it's just that they're way better rebounders than our guys.
Mitch obviously doesn't trust Bassey and Achiuwa is just 6'8. One player can't fix our rebounding issues.

Jeremy is put in a lot of shit positions, tbh. He either has to chase small guards around or has to play as a big.

[John B]

Knicks rotation is also fairly short, it's just that they're way better rebounders than our guys.
Mitch obviously doesn't trust Bassey and Achiuwa is just 6'8. One player can't fix our rebounding issues.

Jeremy is put in a lot of shit positions, tbh. He either has to chase small guards around or has to play as a big.

Sochan didn’t have to chase small guards if Castle was there. What was Tre doing inside when Mikal was torching the Spurs?? Is Castle in the dog house playing limited minutes??

[scott]

1872383290956808654

Pretty critical missed call. Bummer.

[spurs10]

1872383290956808654

Pretty critical missed call. Bummer. Yeah no doubt.

[Knoxxx]

We are obviously still missing some pieces but this game was there for the taking.