Season Long Plus/Minus Tracker

[scott]

Will start updating this throughout the year.

First table, through 35 Games



Player
Games Played
Cumulative +/-
Avg +/-


Chris Paul
35
+134
+3.8


Victor Wembanyama
30
+132
+4.4


Tre Jones
17
+60
+3.5


Julian Champagnie
35
+58
+1.7


Harrison Barnes
35
+42
+1.2


Blake Wesley
23
+15
+0.7


Jeremy Sochan
21
+4
+0.2


Sandro Mamukelashvili
21
-5
-0.2


Stephon Castle
34
-24
-0.7


Charles Bassey
23
-39
-1.7


Zach Collins
28
-75
-2.7


Malaki Branham
22
-86
-3.9


Keldon Johnson
32
-95
-3.0


Devin Vassell
20
-112
-5.6



Happy Sunday

[LeBowen]

Players we're hating on the most have the worst stats, who would've thought?

[scott]

"Spurs fans always find a player to hate... they just happen to choose Collins/Branham/Keldon/Vassell this year... it doesn't make sense"

[SpursBills]

Should adjust for minutes and annual salary tbh

[scott]

Should adjust for minutes and annual salary tbh

Do we really need to make the extremes of this list MORE pronounced? :lol

[Raven]

brings the question of why are blake and mamu out of the rotation, doesn't it?

[scott]

brings the question of why are blake and mamu out of the rotation, doesn't it?

I think this is a very good question. I think Blake has generally performed well in his opportunities - and we picked up his 4th year option presumably because we think he can still grow... how do we expect him to do that waiving a towel?

Mamu I guess it's understandable if the team doesn't see him as a long term piece... but less so if the goal is to win some games.

Last night in particular, when it was clear our guys were tired, I thought the game was just begging for these two guys specifically. Wonder if the thought ever even crept into Mitch's mind.

[Kevin]

I remember seeing a few weeks ago that KJ has the worst +- since entering the leage among qualified players. Looks like Dev is giving him a good run for his money this season.

[KingKev]

I remember seeing a few weeks ago that KJ has the worst +- since entering the leage among qualified players. Looks like Dev is giving him a good run for his money this season.

Learned it from their OG. The DDR effect.

[Uriel]

Blake Wesley, tbh.

[Dejounte]

Takeaway seems to be:

-the Spurs have developed Tre (2nd round pick), Julian (undrafted), Wesley (late 1st), Sochan (9th pick) into players on par or better than a 10 year vet like Barnes, while they have five guys (not counting Castle since he’s a rook and Mamu who we barely developed) who are showing they have developed into poor players. So that’s a 4/9 or 44% hit rate. If I don’t count Wesley since he’s not a regular rotation player, them it’s 3/8 or 37.5%. Not sure how well that compares to the rest of the league.

-the Spurs are developing their 2nd rounders/ undrafted better than their 1st round counterparts. Maybe that’s why we shouldn’t write off our current 2nd round/ two way guys like Cissoko, Ingram, Riley, Duke?

[KingKev]

Compliments the eye test. Another takeaway - contribute on both sides of the ball!

[J_Paco]

It's funny to see people making an about-face on Wesley after shitting on him for 2 or more years. The thing holding him back from being a regular rotation player are all on the offensive end (where he gives you next to nothing minus solid playmaking).

Him finding some way to rectify that massive hole in his game will either sink or save his long-term NBA aspirations.

[bluebellmaniac]

Should make the +/- normalized so it is per 48 min, so we are comparing apples to apples. Comparing someone playing 35 min / gm vs someone playing 14 min/gm would look deceiving
.

[spurraider21]

Should make the +/- normalized so it is per 48 min, so we are comparing apples to apples. Comparing someone playing 35 min / gm vs someone playing 14 min/gm would look deceiving
.
on/off per 100 possessions mirrors pretty closely...

https://i.gyazo.com/cf5a01f929184ffc35266037bffe0b96.png

[Kurik]

Time to bring up Minix

[J_Paco]

Time to bring up Minix

He's an outlier and definitely needs more seasoning in the G-League (I know this is sarcasm, by the way).

It sucks that Pop is unwell and that Castle, Paul and Jones are in his way cause I would love to see if Wesley's 'growth' is for real/sustainable.

I thought he showed a ton of maturity, growth and poise last season as the defacto backup PG, even when idiots on here said otherwise in the off-season.

If he can develop a floater and become even average at three-point shooting, then he could easily become a smaller, less versatile Dante Exum (maybe Lindsay Hunter or Darrell Armstrong is a better comp).

[bluebellmaniac]

+1


on/off per 100 possessions mirrors pretty closely...

https://i.gyazo.com/cf5a01f929184ffc35266037bffe0b96.png