Game Thread: Grizzles (25-15) @ Spurs (19-19) 1/15/2025 7:00 PM CST. 3:00 AM RIGA. 3:00 PM HAWAII

[100%duncan]

Memphis is a really good team, do you pay attention to the league at large?

I know they are a good team. Was that my question?

[scott]

Getting our shit pushed by Luke Kennard... not at all predictable.

[CorrectCrusader]

I know they are a good team. Was that my question?

They are absolutely contenders when healthy.

[cutewizard]

theres this detail about the Memphis asst coach

[LeBowen]

Wemby has to show up and carry this game, inexclusable that he's not abusing this lineup without JJJ.

[100%duncan]

Fucking Wemby just being non-existent on offense this game

[BatManu20]

Terrbile, lazy shot by Wemby. He needs to get his head out of his ass.

[cutewizard]

off night for Wemby,

our Spurs are done for today, sadly

[Pauleta14]

Champagnie can do one thing and one thing only

All the rest... smh

[cutewizard]

awful

[ace3g]

Keldon!!!

[LeBowen]

Champagnie can do one thing and one thing only

All the rest... smh

Well, we're kind of losing because we're getting toched by a couple of players who are even worse in other aspects of the game.

[CorrectCrusader]

Keldon has played pretty well as of late

[scott]

Keldon okay I see you

[TheBallsbreakers]

That dunk is mean.

[heyheymymy]

damn KAGE willing this team

[cutewizard]

only Keldon is fighting now,

but this is the homecourt, hehe.......

[BatManu20]

Keldon playing his ass off as usual

[Pauleta14]

Sophomore wall for Wemby??

He needs to wake up

[100%duncan]

It's sad that Wemby still has these lulls in random games tbh. I really have a hard time of understanding how he hasn't been able to impose his will in this game especially with JJJ in foul trouble. While he's only in his 2nd year, he's also in top5-8 convos, you cant be having these types of non-impactful offensive games.

[LeBowen]

-18 quarter, ffs.

[Leetonidas]

I cringe every time Castle shoots a three

[heyheymymy]

once you miss the 2 for 1 window I don't really want to still rush a castle three try anyway

[100%duncan]

Passing out on a dunk (albeit contested). JFC

[BatManu20]

Castle doing them a favor by firing up all these 3's. No going to win many games where he literally can't hit a single shot.

[Pauleta14]

Tre is fucking useless, can't score or do a simple lob pass

Just dribble dribble dribble...

[rascal]

Spurs have a chance. Sochan is not playing.

[NASpurs]

Right now Wemby looks like someone going through the motions. He's averaging 35 minutes in January and I wouldn't be surprised if his tank is at half-full.

[CorrectCrusader]

Castle doing them a favor by firing up all these 3's. No going to win many games where he literally can't hit a single shot.

Kinda have to when you have a lineup consisting of Keldon + Castle + Tre

[Dex]

Stupid play from our bench for pretty much that entire third quarter.

Jones passing up wide open shots is still a problem

[100%duncan]

Right now Wemby looks like someone going through the motions. He's playing 35 minutes in January and I wouldn't be surprised if his tank is at half-full.

Fuck that. They had a long ass break before the Lakers game and a day break before this.

[Pauleta14]

Passing out on a dunk (albeit contested). JFC

The pass and timing by Tre were terrible, Wemby would have gotten blocked

[timtonymanu]

:lol This team

[spursistan]

Softest and most embarrassing quarter of basketball by Wemby in spurs uniform..my goodness

[NASpurs]

Fuck that. They had a long ass break before the Lakers game and a day break before this.

Dude has weak stamina. We all know that.

[scott]

:lol getting beat by Jay Huff and Luke Kennard

[100%duncan]

The pass and timing by Tre were terrible, Wemby would have gotten blocked

That's better than Steph shooting blanks. At least he can get fouled. Whatever, it was lose-lose

[Dex]

I am so fucking tired of this "slap the ball out on the rebound" shit.

GRAB IT WITH TWO HANDS OR BOX OUT.

[NASpurs]

Grizzlies have a lot of plumbers pushing our shit in. GG again

[Leetonidas]

Yeah this is an L

[BatManu20]

T (https://uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/cp3bugginatdj.gif)his game feels over already

[Dex]

Grizzlies have a lot of plumbers pushing our shit in. GG again

Grizzlies are third in the West so....they are officially a much better team than we are

[scott]

Champ is a solid role player, but every now and then he'll give you that braindead moment

[Dex]

What does Castle have to do to get a whistle?

[LeBowen]

That's it, just attack the damn paint.

[CorrectCrusader]

Castle is such a killer. Superstar in the making.

[BatManu20]

Wemby has air-balled multiple wide open 3's tonight

[cutewizard]

Castle is a fighter

[SupremeGuy]

LMAOOOO Castle has more balls than Wemby

Fucking shit that dude is real

[Pauleta14]

If we win that one it's because of Keldon and Stephon

edit/ Devin too

[cutewizard]

i feel like Wemby is tired, perhaps he should rest next game hmmm

[td4mvp2k]

castle4mvp

[NASpurs]

Fuck that. They had a long ass break before the Lakers game and a day break before this.

He's airballed two threes in this game. Need more proof the dude is gassed? He's probably hit some wall.

[CorrectCrusader]

Wembys outside shooting threat is keeping the paint open for our guys.

[TheBallsbreakers]

Teams have resorted to a strategy of attacking Wemby early and tiring him out, which results in him being lackadaisical on offense.
He'll get his blocks but that has got to wear on him.
Same thing the Bulls did.

[cutewizard]

Olympics can sap strength

[100%duncan]

He's airballed two threes in this game. Need more proof the dude is gassed? He's probably hit some wall.

Yup unbelievable

[Pauleta14]

Teams have resorted to a strategy of attacking Wemby early and tiring him out, which results in him being lackadaisical on offense.
He'll get his blocks but that has got to wear on him.
Same thing the Bulls did.

Yep

Lot's of making him running up and down the 3pt line as much as possible

Smart and as long as we don't have another decent big man...

[rascal]

Spurs can win this home game.

[scott]

Wemby with Vassell level shot-selection tonight, while Vassell on the other hand has been pretty good

[Strategic]

Griz must have talked shit at Castle tonight.

[100%duncan]

JJJ hunting a tired Wemby. Reminiscent of last season when they won on a game winner.

[BatManu20]

Griz must have talked shit at Castle tonight.

They were yelling "Let him shoot!" earlier when he was wide open with the ball at the top of the key. He took it personally (although they're right tbh).

[NASpurs]

They were yelling "Let him shoot!" earlier when he was wide open with the ball at the top of the key. He took it personally (although they're right tbh).

Let's be real, they've would had the same game plan with Sochan.

[CorrectCrusader]

tf do we have to do to get a whistle man

[Kawhi Duncan]

Wemby needs to learn to play tough on offense... Aldama is like 6 inches shorter and 20lbs lighter... Body him the same way shorter, lighter players body you

[Leetonidas]

Embarrassing

[NASpurs]

But yeah, that's game for real.

[Dex]

Aaaand we ded.

[rascal]

Wow. Wemby got his shot blocked!

[onechance87]

what a stupid timeout

[BatManu20]

That's prob game

[100%duncan]

Wemby singlehandedly losing this game

[cutewizard]

too late Wemby

[cutewizard]

they decimated us, tbh

learning game

[spursistan]

The type of game that shows you Wemby is not there yet offensively...

[rascal]

Spurs need Dylan Harper or Tre Johnson for some explosive scoring.

[Pauleta14]

How hard is it to work on SIMPLE pick and roll plays to get easy buckets for Wemby?

It's either he has to shoot or drive and do it all by himself all the time...

He's clearly tired and they do nothing to make his life (and theirs) easier smh

[Kawhi Duncan]

Wow. Wemby got his shot blocked!

Wemby my guy, but he went up like a pussy, tbh... Really timid attempt

[Robz4000]

:lol this team

[tbdog]

Castle shot in just broken, yet he scored a career high.

[Kawhi Duncan]

The type of game that shows you Wemby is not there yet offensively...

Big part of that is coaching

[scott]

Damn, didn't count but... wow Ja

[tbdog]

That's the biggest dunk never counted

[Robz4000]

:lmao getting emasculated yet again by Ja and Memphis

[rascal]

Morant is the best player on the court.

[CorrectCrusader]

Gg. Grizz the better team

[cutewizard]

lots of room for growth

need a super serious training camp after this season

[scott]

Not putting money on being able to get a split out of this, tbh

[BatManu20]

Embarrassing showing in the 2nd half tonight, especially by Wemby.

[Strategic]

Got ugly

[rascal]

4th quarter collapse

[Larry O]

With a minute left, stick a fork in the Spurs, they're done.
.

[100%duncan]

:lmao getting emasculated yet again by Ja and Memphis

Grizz are a good team but no one really thinks theyre going to still be playing in late May. Getting embarassed like this just goes to show how far off this team is.

[CorrectCrusader]

Wemby singlehandedly losing this game

Wemby's fault the defense shit its pants in the second half?

[tbdog]

Did mitch play Wemby and Cp all quarter?

[Kawhi Duncan]

Embarrassing

[BatManu20]

Ja always tries to dunk on Wemby. Tonight will be no different. Hope he's ready tbh.

Victor was, in fact, not ready.

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[TheBallsbreakers]

Desmond Bane flexing, huffing and puffing like the champion and superstar he is.

[CorrectCrusader]

Grizz are a good team but no one really thinks theyre going to still be playing in late May. Getting embarassed like this just goes to show how far off this team is.

You are a brick. Memphis is #4 in Net Rating this season and their best players have been injured half the season.

[LeBowen]

Wells: 39th pick
Bane: 30th
Aldama: 30th
Pippen Jr: undrafted
LaRavia: 19th
Kennard: took him as a salary dump
Clarke: 21st
Huff: undrafted
Smart: Tyus Jones, Sasser and a SRP

And they didn't fuck up their high picks, got JJJ and Ja.

Then you look at our player development as of late and this is nothing but front office difference.

I expect a big game from Wemby on Friday, which we'll still probably lose.

[100%duncan]

Wemby's fault the defense shit its pants in the second half?

? He was in the court when the Grizz cut the 12 pt lead to 2. :lol And I’m not even talking about defense.

[SupremeGuy]

Imagine being 7 fucking 4 and chucking 3s?

[spursparker9]

Morant had a dunk over Wemby last season as well

:lol I thought Morant had declared that he will not ever dunk again for "health/injury" reason

[100%duncan]

You are a brick. Memphis is #4 in Net Rating this season and their best players have been injured half the season.

If you think Memphis is going to WCF then that’s your own retarded opinion :lol Fuck off.

[Pauleta14]

We play them again in a cple days, it'll be interesting to see Mitch's adjustments.

Grizz will definitely game plan for Wemby again

[CorrectCrusader]

? He was in the court when the Grizz cut the 12 pt lead to 2. :lol And I’m not even talking about defense.

Lmao glad it was wembys fault that Luke Kennard got several uncontested looks in a row.

[cutewizard]

and that is all she wrote

[CorrectCrusader]

Wells: 39th pick
Bane: 30th
Aldama: 30th
Pippen Jr: undrafted
LaRavia: 19th
Kennard: took him as a salary dump
Clarke: 21st
Huff: undrafted
Smart: Tyus Jones, Sasser and a SRP

And they didn't fuck up their high picks, got JJJ and Ja.

Then you look at our player development as of late and this is nothing but front office difference.

I expect a big game from Wemby on Friday, which we'll still probably lose.

Pippen jr. would be our 4th best player. kinda crazy

[tim_duncan_fan]

In a way, this is a good loss:

We do not want anyone, especially not the front office, thinking we have arrived at all. This team still needs a lot of help/changes/player growth. Pyrite wins can be detrimental.

[Raven]

castle with a career high, but it felt like a summer league special... having a hard time not giving him an F for this game

[spursparker9]

Wells: 39th pick
Bane: 30th
Aldama: 30th
Pippen Jr: undrafted
LaRavia: 19th
Kennard: took him as a salary dump
Clarke: 21st
Huff: undrafted
Smart: Tyus Jones, Sasser and a SRP

And they didn't fuck up their high picks, got JJJ and Ja.

Then you look at our player development as of late and this is nothing but front office difference.

I expect a big game from Wemby on Friday, which we'll still probably lose.


Wow they really can build this in a cave, with bunch of scraps. :lol

[cutewizard]

we are their clients, so to speak

Coach Mitch has his work cut our for him

Can we get Coach Becky as consultant now, and she sits in the bench,???

[Robz4000]

Wells: 39th pick
Bane: 30th
Aldama: 30th
Pippen Jr: undrafted
LaRavia: 19th
Kennard: took him as a salary dump
Clarke: 21st
Huff: undrafted
Smart: Tyus Jones, Sasser and a SRP

And they didn't fuck up their high picks, got JJJ and Ja.

Then you look at our player development as of late and this is nothing but front office difference.

I expect a big game from Wemby on Friday, which we'll still probably lose.

Just incredible ineptitude by this front office and coaching/developmental staff. Gonna be the reason Wemby leaves in a few years tbh.

[Gibbz]

Grizzlies wanna act tough in January.

[Pauleta14]

Wemby singlehandedly losing this game

Bro he was exhausted but he ends up -4 and we lose by 14

[SupremeGuy]

Big part of that is coachingCoaching? The big part of it is Wemby wanting to be a guard instead of being fucking Lew Alcindor.

[ginobilized]

Kennard and Aldama going HOF on us. 57 bench points....ouch! Griz are the better team.

The Hassle of the Castle was great to see. He has some sneaky hops. He played some great D on Morant, just unstoppable most of the time.

[BatManu20]

Grizzlies own the Spurs tbh. They're our kryptonite. I bet they get excited every time they see us on the calendar tbh.

[100%duncan]

Lmao glad it was wembys fault that Luke Kennard got several uncontested looks in a row.

Yes and you think the #1 option scoring 13 pts on 5/19 shooting (3/10 from 3s) is somehow ok. The game was there for the taking and Wemby failed to win it. There was nothing different in our defense this game compared to the whole season :lol

[Raven]

We play them again in a cple days, it'll be interesting to see Mitch's adjustments.

Grizz will definitely game plan for Wemby again
:lol

[CorrectCrusader]

Yes and you think the #1 option scoring 13 pts on 5/19 shooting (3/10 from 3s) is somehow ok. The game was there for the taking and Wemby failed to win it. There was nothing different in our defense this game compared to the whole season :lol

Clearly trolling or actually braindead

[Manu-of-steel]

Keldon again with low IQ plays.Gives Aldama a lay up in a baseline inbound play. Looking at the rim, not able to catch catch a nice pass from CP3. OMG

[100%duncan]

Clearly trolling or actually braindead

Says the guy who thinks Memphis are contenders :lmao

[Robz4000]

Grizzlies own the Spurs tbh. They're our kryptonite. I bet they get excited every time they see us on the calendar tbg.

Feels like most teams in the league are their kryptonite tbh. Happens when you have a bottom five coaching staff in the league.

[CorrectCrusader]

Says the guy who thinks Memphis are contenders :lmao

The best player on their team shot like 30% against us and they still whooped our ass by 14

[Dex]

The silver lining is we are able to hang with the better teams in the NBA.

The frustrating part is we consistently find ways to shit the bed in the 4th quarter.

[LeBowen]

Pippen jr. would be our 4th best player. kinda crazy

What do all of their players have in common? They can shoot the ball.
Just Smart and Ja are below 33% if we exclude Edey and Clarke, non-shooting bigs.
They have 5 players shooting 35-39% on at least 4 attempts per game and they have 3 players above 40%.

The issue with our front office is that they think everyone can be a versatile role player and they often think they'll develop their shot.
Castle is worth taking because he's great at so many other things and then we can hope he becomes a decent shooter.
Others aren't worth it. Just get fucking players that can shoot the ball, it's 2025.

[BatManu20]

Coaching? The big part of it is Wemby wanting to be a guard instead of being fucking Lew Alcindor.

Yea Wemby's offensive ceiling is going to be seriously limited if this is going to be how he plays basketball his entire career. I'm hoping as he ages and his frame starts to fill out that he'll more of an inside threat, but it's also just not really his game. Dude just really wants to play like a guard at all times and it's fucking annoying. Adding a simple jump hook to his repertoire would do wonders for both he and the team.

[rascal]

castle with a career high, but it felt like a summer league special... having a hard time not giving him an F for this game

He doesn't get an F. He did well attacking the basket and making things happen.

[CorrectCrusader]

What do all of their players have in common? They can shoot the ball.
Just Smart and Ja are below 33% if we exclude Edey and Clarke, non-shooting bigs.
They have 5 players shooting 35-39% on at least 4 attempts per game and they have 3 players above 40%.

The issue with our front office is that they think everyone can be a versatile role player and they often think they'll develop their shot.
Castle is worth taking because he's great at so many other things and then we can hope he becomes a decent shooter.
Others aren't worth it. Just get fucking players that can shoot the ball, it's 2025.

The Tre Castle Keldon lineup was diabolical, esp with Wemby struggling shooting tonight

[paperboy77]

Wells: 39th pick
Bane: 30th
Aldama: 30th
Pippen Jr: undrafted
LaRavia: 19th
Kennard: took him as a salary dump
Clarke: 21st
Huff: undrafted
Smart: Tyus Jones, Sasser and a SRP

And they didn't fuck up their high picks, got JJJ and Ja.

Then you look at our player development as of late and this is nothing but front office difference.

I expect a big game from Wemby on Friday, which we'll still probably lose.

Exactly. Our management is totally shit or at the very least soft and indecisive. We could have similar results but our coaching staff is so soft vs the players. They don't seem to jump anyone's ass or tell them their roles.

[100%duncan]

At any case, I still am expecting a split but wouldn’t really be surprised if we get blownout by 20 the next game.

[timtonymanu]

I’m not even surprised anymore. What’s gonna be annoying is being stuck with the 12th seed and the front office being conservative about making moves. :cry we need our 500 draft picks.

[CorrectCrusader]

Memphis outcoached us, notice how in the second half Edey didn't even play. They played a spacer big and they cooked us inside.

[NASpurs]

What do all of their players have in common? They can shoot the ball.
Just Smart and Ja are below 33% if we exclude Edey and Clarke, non-shooting bigs.
They have 5 players shooting 35-39% on at least 4 attempts per game and they have 3 players above 40%.

The issue with our front office is that they think everyone can be a versatile role player and they often think they'll develop their shot.
Castle is worth taking because he's great at so many other things and then we can hope he becomes a decent shooter.
Others aren't worth it. Just get fucking players that can shoot the ball, it's 2025.

I'm a half full type of person. We would be killing it if this was 1995.

[SupremeGuy]

Yeah, we fucking need Manu as our Coach next year. Not just Manu but Tim and TP on the bench. There's potential. Dammit Pound the rock tbh.

[LeBowen]

Since we're talking about coaching staff, Grizzlies got Tuomas Iisalo to help them with their offense.
Young Finnish coach who won EuroCup, Champions League and French Cup over the past years while basically being a D'Antoni fanboy.
Grizzlies were never in top10 in 3pt attempts or makes since Jenkins got there.
This season they're 11th and 1st in pace.

When was the last time Spurs got an impactful assistant from anywhere, not just abroad?
Instead we have Brett fucking Brown as lead assistant.

[CorrectCrusader]

Spurs front office starting to look a lot like my Cowboys :downspin:

[ralph nyc]

good game from castle.

[SupremeGuy]

Yea Wemby's offensive ceiling is going to be seriously limited if this is going to be how he plays basketball his entire career. I'm hoping as he ages and his frame starts to fill out that he'll more of an inside threat, but it's also just not really his game. Dude just really wants to play like a guard at all times and it's fucking annoying. Adding a simple jump hook to his repertoire would do wonders for both he and the team.Ugh who are we, right? Everyone has bad games. At least he's still dominant on the defensive side.

[Mugen]

I'm way more pissed that the fucking Hawks G league team beat the Bulls in Chicago tonight tbh :lol

[Knoxxx]

I’m not real worried about Wemby he was playing out of his mind on offense now coming back to earth. He needs a little more size and confidence to score consistently inside but he’s smart enough to figure out that’s where the easy money will be made and the 3 PT game needs to be the gravy on top when he’s on and dialed down when he’s not.

[sananspursfan21]

I’m forced to scoreboard watch Memphis games because of the idiotic blackout rules. 12 point lead after the half and next time I check, down 14 with a couple minutes to go. What happened?!

[AusSpur]

Memphis outcoached us, notice how in the second half Edey didn't even play. They played a spacer big and they cooked us inside.

One coach game in with a game plan you could see, the other made substitutions. Mitch gotta learn how to stop the rot, at least sometimes.

[CorrectCrusader]

This game exemplifies WHY Wemby needs to shoot. Against teams like Memphis that have elite defensive bigs it opened the lane for players like Castle and Keldon (who had the best offensive games on our team, huh what a concept) which kept us close until we failed to make defensive adjustments in the second half.
Wemby obviously struggled tonight but hey tough shooting nights happen to everybody, he was very active everywhere else though. I wish y'all would stop trying to pidgeonhole Wemby into being a back you down player when he literally doesn't have the frame to do that.

[CorrectCrusader]

I’m forced to scoreboard watch Memphis games because of the idiotic blackout rules. 12 point lead after the half and next time I check, down 14 with a couple minutes to go. What happened?!

In the first half Memphis played Edey so Wemby was able to patrol the paint.
In the second half, they didn't play him at all and instead played huff, who's a lights out 3point shooter. This took wemby away from the paint which allowed them to score at will in the second half.

[sananspursfan21]

In the first half Memphis played Edey so Wemby was able to patrol the paint.
In the second half, they didn't play him at all and instead played huff, who's a lights out 3point shooter. This took wemby away from the paint which allowed them to score at will in the second half.

Huh. Sounds like a nice strategy. If only our guys had a counter

[CorrectCrusader]

Huh. Sounds like a nice strategy. If only our guys had a counter

If only indeed

[Robz4000]

I'm way more pissed that the fucking Hawks G league team beat the Bulls in Chicago tonight tbh :lol

Saw that coming a mile away tbh. Hawks are still better without Young.

[Jordan Jackson]

There is no space for Wemby to operate.

The Grizzlies realized the players around him can’t shoot and they crowded the paint. Castle was the only one who can take the ball and get into the gaps of the defense.

We will never truly know what Wemby’s offensive ability is until the front office starts doing their job. They refuse to address the lack of shooting. He needs the space. Good lord. It’s not that complicated.

Grizzles are going to pack the paint again on Friday.

[Mugen]

Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out they were straight bullied tonight.

From Pippen Jr punking Paul, Bane bumping Vassell on every drive and JJJ just lowering his shoulder into Wemby every time. The only guys that looked like they didn't mind the physicality was Castle and Keldon. We could have actually used Sochan tonight :lol

Actually pretty interested to see how they respond on Friday. Will be pretty telling on how tough they are tbh.

[BatManu20]

Wemby volunteering to get postered by Ja on a play that didn’t count after the whistle had already blown was puzzling to say the least. Now it’s all over Twitter. I literally can’t scroll without seeing multiple accounts posting it everywhere :lol

[CorrectCrusader]

Wemby volunteering to get postered by Ja on a play that didn’t count after the whistle had already blown was puzzling to say the least. Now it’s all over Twitter. I literally can’t scroll without seeing multiple accounts posting it everywhere :lol

I thought he was soft though?

[rankingtear]

Huh. Sounds like a nice strategy. If only our guys had a counter

Their counter is injured.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Since we're talking about coaching staff, Grizzlies got Tuomas Iisalo to help them with their offense.
Young Finnish coach who won EuroCup, Champions League and French Cup over the past years while basically being a D'Antoni fanboy.
Grizzlies were never in top10 in 3pt attempts or makes since Jenkins got there.
This season they're 11th and 1st in pace.

When was the last time Spurs got an impactful assistant from anywhere, not just abroad?
Instead we have Brett fucking Brown as lead assistant.

We are the Dallas Cowboys of the NBA. Pop has a bunch of yes men around him, just there to tell him how great his wine picks are and what a GOAT of a coach he is after the third bottle.

You could go with Belichick or Tomlin as comparisons too. The game has passed them by but they're still sticking around. Pop should consider his stroke as a sign from above it's time to hang it up, but he's going to dick around and fuck up another year or two of Wemby's rookie deal while we tread water around .500.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Their counter is injured.

LOL. Sochan? Memphis would just sag off him on the defensive end and let him brick threes to his heart's content. At the other end, what's he going to do? He's overhyped as a defender. He'd be camping out there with Huff while Memphis pounds the lane, just like Wemby was.

[Kawhi Duncan]

Wemby volunteering to get postered by Ja on a play that didn’t count after the whistle had already blown was puzzling to say the least. Now it’s all over Twitter. I literally can’t scroll without seeing multiple accounts posting it everywhere :lol

He doesn't have the same dog mentality he had as a rookie... He gets nervous around the rim on offense... Almost never dunks it if anyone stands remotely near the paint... Doesn't back down ppl smaller and lighter than him aggressively... Resorts to jacking threes because he is afraid of contact on offense... And our coaches not doing him any favors... They're not only enabling him by never holding him accountable... They're not creating an offensive system that utilizes him based on his strengths, with room for growth... They just have him playing pick-up ball

[Kawhi Duncan]

Their counter is injured.

We have a horrible record with Sochan starting

[spurs1990]

Just saw the morant dunk on YouTube…. holy shinto. Let’s just never mention this eyesore of a game again

[Kawhi Duncan]

Coaching? The big part of it is Wemby wanting to be a guard instead of being fucking Lew Alcindor.

Yes coaching... A good coach wouldn't simply allow him to constantly take these bad shots... Half of his shots are from three... And half of those are bad shots... A good coach would create a system where he constantly gets the ball in prime scoring position... Put certain players around him that help space the floor, and allow the offense to flow through him consistently in the mid and low post area ( using a movement based offense) instead of hoping he gets hot from three

[z0sa]

Not enough shooting. It's really that simple. Teams like Memphis get layup drills because you're forced to constantly switch or be spread out since everyone can shoot the long ball.

The 3, in combination with the inability to use things like hand checking on the perimeter, has essentially ruined NBA basketball from the top down. You cannot stop guys on the perimeter without fouling with today's rules, and since good ball-handlers will always get their foot/shoulder past you, that means you've got to send help or simply give up an open lane or shot. Pass it around and jack up a reasonably open 3 or get a wide open lane to the basket due to switches. The game is at its "peak" - and it's not really that great to watch, in my humble opinion. The Spurs are as guilty as anyone. The Beautiful Game basically launched this type of gameplay. There's no really easy answer that's simple enough for casualfan, either, at least while keeping perimeter defense basically zero contact.

Lengthening the 3 point line will just delay the same thing happening another decade down the road. Making the short corners inside the arc might help. Allowing some handchecking or more contact around screens would be a step "backward" but it might make the game a lot more palatable. Just my opinion, though. I think casualfan really likes this style of play and it's a business, after all.

[rascal]

I’m forced to scoreboard watch Memphis games because of the idiotic blackout rules. 12 point lead after the half and next time I check, down 14 with a couple minutes to go. What happened?!

You can't watch on the internet at The.streameast.app site?

[skin27]

Yes coaching... A good coach wouldn't simply allow him to constantly take these bad shots... Half of his shots are from three... And half of those are bad shots... A good coach would create a system where he constantly gets the ball in prime scoring position... Put certain players around him that help space the floor, and allow the offense to flow through him consistently in the mid and low post area ( using a movement based offense) instead of hoping he gets hot from three

its not coaching.. its wemby who decide if he want to chuck 3’s instead of playing inside the paint. Dont be blind. He doesnt even know how to set screen properly and how to get wide open after setting a screen thats why pick n roll isnt effective with him

[rankingtear]

We have a horrible record with Sochan starting

Not really the point. We are discussing what is the counter if a 5 drags wemby out of the paint. Sochan ability to deter driving lanes on help is our counter to that.

[rankingtear]

LOL. Sochan? Memphis would just sag off him on the defensive end and let him brick threes to his heart's content. At the other end, what's he going to do? He's overhyped as a defender. He'd be camping out there with Huff while Memphis pounds the lane, just like Wemby was.

Not really the point of the discussion. The point is what is the counter to dragging Wemby out of the paint. Sochan ability to deter drives on help. You can also start 2 centers but that amplifies spacing and mobility problems. So the counter is Sochan.

[onechance87]

castle gotta shoot the 3s better......They willing to let castle shoot all day.

[Pauleta14]

:lol

:lol

I'm not against being surprised, who knows...

[Pauleta14]

Wemby volunteering to get postered by Ja on a play that didn’t count after the whistle had already blown was puzzling to say the least. Now it’s all over Twitter. I literally can’t scroll without seeing multiple accounts posting it everywhere :lol

I'm so pissed at Wemby for letting this shit happen again and again.

[PhantomDashCam]

Grizzles are just better than us right now.

We have one legit star - whose go to move mind you is a logo 3 (at this point of his career), the Grizz have three stars who can all play inside/out.

Chris Paul got into one of his di*k measuring contests again and Memphis seemed to respond to it with extra physicality and we wilted.

[Knoxxx]

Paul is barely a legit starter nightly. His shooting percent keeps trending down, too small, aged. I like the fire he brings and usually IQ but that was a mentoring move and stop gap - to stop the bleeding of last season’s type. The idea of starting Paul at PG and becoming a contender is ludicrous.

[Bruno]

Grizz's org deserves so much credit for what they are doing. They are drafting so well and have hired great coaches with some new/fresh ideas. They also didn't tank at all last season despite all their injuries. It's nice to see them doing well because it seems deserved.

[Fireball]

Paul is barely a legit starter nightly. His shooting percent keeps trending down, too small, aged. I like the fire he brings and usually IQ but that was a mentoring move and stop gap - to stop the bleeding of last season’s type. The idea of starting Paul at PG and becoming a contender is ludicrous.

Spurs hired CP3 (and HB) so that he can teach the young guys for one year and also to win a few more games ... learn winning so to speak. That was never about contending.

[onechance87]

Spurs hired CP3 (and HB) so that he can teach the young guys for one year and also to win a few more games ... learn winning so to speak. That was never about contending.

we would be contending if vassell and sochan played better this season.They have looked like role players so far this season.
Alot of the west teams got worst.

[Spurminator]

Wemby having 10 points with 4 minutes left in the game ain't gonna do it.

Game swung when we missed 4 FTs in a row, tbh.

[Spurminator]

Really frustrating seeing teams get uncontested layups while one of the best defensive big men the NBA has ever seen is out guarding the three-point line. Maybe we try a zone sometime?

[DesignatedT]

That was embarrassing in the second half. Absolutely bullied. Most of this team has no pride in their defense and there is a noticeable lack of effort on that side of the ball. Don’t have to be a good defender to show effort and toughness. Signs that a new coaching staff is probably needed.

[scott]

Their counter is injured.

Yep, if only we had Sochan's shooting to help space the floor, we could have had this one.

[BatManu20]

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[szkorhetz]

:lmao

[Bill_Brasky]

I legit hate the Memphis. Band of front runners tbh. But playing a team like that will make Vic better, imo.

[ginobilized]

Memphis is a tough team. Lot's of height, play super physical brand of basketball.
I felt like we had a chance if not for their bench going off. Kennard and Aldama were killers in the 2nd half.

There were some curious moves, though coaching-wise.

- Wemby playing 37 mins in a game like this. I'm very glad he didn't get injured in the last 90 seconds when the game was pretty much decided.
- Spurs played their 9-man rotation while Memphis went with an 11-man rotation. Was MJ sending a message by letting the starters breathe in the foul stench of losing before Friday's re-match? Seemed odd to not sub-out the starters there.
- Huff as a 3rd-string center is just one example of player development and roster building around physicality, height and defense. We need more versatile front court players and Huff would be a great 3rd option at center.

[Leetonidas]

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Not surprising. Outside of 2011 the spurs absolutely owned their poverty franchise repeatedly so I'm sure they love kicking our asses now

[Raven]

Really frustrating seeing teams get uncontested layups while one of the best defensive big men the NBA has ever seen is out guarding the three-point line. Maybe we try a zone sometime?
maybe we should play a pf sometimes, for a change

[itzsoweezee]

So little resistance from spurs’ defenders on the perimeter. Even Castle was consistently giving up wide open lanes to the basket. Other than great shooting from the spurs, it was not a very competitive game. The coaching staff needs to get Even a little bit creative on defense. Let wemby play a one man zone in the paint.

I think wemby got punked by the grizzlies last year too. I hear a lot about how competitive he is so let’s see what he brings tomorrow

[Pauleta14]

How many opened 3s has Champ left bc he was focused on his defensive rebounding and over helping inside?

Why is it happening every games?

[cd98]

Grizzlies are pretty damn good with Morant.

[scott]

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Devin loves getting his ass kicked