Game Thread: Spurs vs. Grizz -- 1/17/2025 - 8:30pm CST on ESPN (4:30am Riga Time; 4:30pm Hawaiian Time)

[ginobilized]

Aldama and Kennard are the difference makers again

Depressing way to play in a home game before the gauntlet of death games ahead

12 mins to get Wemby involved and step up the D

[onechance87]

Why Tre playing??

Seriously...

cause hes a good pg acording to spurstalk.Even tho he cant make a open 3 and is a average passer.

[spursparker9]

A Mitch Johnson special - Grizzlies go on a 16-0 run and he does absolutely nothing to stop it, no sub, no timeout.

Learning from the zen master :lol

[Robz4000]

:lol this team has no pride, including Wemby

[mystargtr34]

😂 holy shit Mitch must have got orders from Pop at half time to start the tank.

[ginobilized]

Aldama and Kennard are the difference makers again

Depressing way to play in a home game before the gauntlet of death games ahead

12 mins to get Wemby involved and step up the D

[TheBallsbreakers]

There is just no offensive game plan.
I think any decent coach would have the ability to at least draw up a play for your best, and BIGGEST, player.
We're really back to last year, where players just ignore Wemby and Wemby, in turn, just acting passive as fuck.

[Larry O]

No Morant. No JJJ. No Eddy. No problem for the Grizzlies, SMH. They just know that they easily have this game in the bag.

[Pauleta14]

:lmao at the Spurtalkers shitting on Wemby... no shame tbh

Mitch is the main culprit, and the total absence of any offensive play for the franchise player is mind-boggling.

Surreal... let's just use him to set up picks and pass to the open guy

[z0sa]

The “pros” who built this roster and traded away our draft picks for nothing suck ass at their jobs, and the coaching is somehow even worse.

Wemby is playing like a ghost on offense for multiple games now.

I think an actual planned tank, unlike last year, is now in order. And even with a great pick we are way behind other teams thanks to PATFO being retards.

[scott]

This is what is feels like to be on the receiving end of what we gave the Lakers the other night

[heyheymymy]

My theory is that Wemby has been handing out beignets at half time to understandably get his team mates ready for the trip to France but it's too heavy of a snack for mid game, leaving the guys sluggish afterwards

[cutewizard]

another loss

ohhh cmon

[100%duncan]

:lol this team has no pride, including Wemby

Careful calling out Wemby out here :lol

[cutewizard]

tanking mode?????????????

[100%duncan]

This is what is feels like to be on the receiving end of what we gave the Lakers the other night

This is way worse

[SupremeGuy]

Wemby clearly checked out on offense.

[Dverde]

Mitch is not good at this.

[z0sa]

Wemby plays like a PG. JUST FUCKIN SPIN AND DUNK IT DUDE

[Knoxxx]

As much as the offense puzzles the defensive jumps off the screen as the most putrid.

[SupremeGuy]

Can someone remind Wemby he's 7 fucking 4?

[KobesAchilles]

Wemby is lost on offense bc for the first time probably in his life he is playing on a team that doesn’t know how to run an offense :lol I mean when is the last time they ran a play for him? Never mind two in a row. Nope it’s just stand around at the 3 point line and nobody moves when he catches it.

Memphis played with pace and space and the Spurs just ran around like a chicken without a head. This team is filled with low iq and useless players that I can’t even be at mad anymore. I will however be mad when the Spurs sit on their ass again and do absolutely nothing to improve this team for next year. Trust the process guys as we will have entered 8 straight years of not making the playoffs. When from 1973-2017 we had only 4 such seasons as a franchise.

We are the new Kings of the nba. Bad ownership. Bad GM. Bad coach. Bad assistant coaches. Bad player development. And cheap to boot. I’ve never seen such a scared chicken shit organization. You were gifted Wemby and instead of improving the team you want to take it slow and sit on your ass and hope everything just magically improves. Fucking ridiculous. I want Jimmy Butler. Trade for his ass. I don’t want to get the 12 pick and get another guy who doesn’t know how to play basketball and wait another 4 years for him to be good when he probably won’t be.

[LeBowen]

Aldama didn't get an extension, btw.
RFA this summer.

[Gibbz]

Just fucking putrid perimeter defense.

[scott]

Wemby electing to just go full chucker the rest of the game

What do you think Mitch is thinking about over there? Favorite Cafes in Paris?

[SupremeGuy]

It's impressive seeing these 2nd half collapses tho lol

Fuck man lately if Wemby doesn't hit a 3 early on in the game he just freezes himself out.

[spursparker9]

:lol Anyone noticing Grizzlies bench being so rowdy?

[slick'81]

Bend over spurs here comes the pain

[ginobilized]

CP3's missed free throw was the turning point

[cutewizard]

conflagration of losses, ohhh gawd

[LeBowen]

What do you think Mitch is thinking about over there? Favorite Cafes in Paris?

Probably wondering why he hasn't been put out of his misery already.
I actually don't even blame him for this, he got a chance because of unplanned events, didn't take advantage of it, but we need to move on.

[Pauleta14]

Aldama feeling like Durant right now

We always manage to give someone the game of his life smh

[z0sa]

Holy fuck the coaches are stupid. Like, no hyperbole. They’d struggle coaching high schoolers.

[cutewizard]

the Spurs need a mental coach, or therapist

[Spurs Brazil]

Great coaching. Now put Wemby on Pippen and further of the basket :lol

[CorrectCrusader]

Idk what the problem on offense is as of late. We're not running sets we're just kinda winging it.

I think it's time we tank. This is the perfect time to start it.

[Mugen]

One of the softest performances I've ever seen from a team tbh.

Morant dancing like it's showtime at the apollo on the sidelines and this bitchmade team just letting it happen, getting embarrassed two games in a row :lol

[TheBallsbreakers]

The gameplan should always be to get Wemby going EARLY. Get him involved and the rest of the G-league team can then contribute some when he takes a rest.
Not this retarded approach of ignoring him first then force-feeding him the ball eventually.
Part of that is on Wemby too for being too passive but most of it is on the coaching staff.

[cutewizard]

like the one who mentored Gukesh

[spursistan]

It is ok to admit: our roster sucks, our coach sucks, but also our franchise guy has a 'soft' gene in him

[Larry O]

Aldama didn't get an extension, btw.
RFA this summer.

Yeah, and the Spurs picks him up and his 3 point shooting will end up at 20 percent, LOL!

[onechance87]

This was suppose to be a easy win for us.Instead we are made looking stupid.Same front office that brought wesley
and branham back for another year.

[LeBowen]

We're going to be about 7 games behind .500 after the road trip.

[skin27]

Wemby electing to just go full chucker the rest of the game

What do you think Mitch is thinking about over there? Favorite Cafes in Paris?
Chucking 3’s is all he can do to be effective on offense

[SupremeGuy]

Wemby is lost on offense bc for the first time probably in his life he is playing on a team that doesn’t know how to run an offense :lol I mean when is the last time they ran a play for him? Never mind two in a row. Nope it’s just stand around at the 3 point line and nobody moves when he catches it.

Memphis played with pace and space and the Spurs just ran around like a chicken without a head. This team is filled with low iq and useless players that I can’t even be at mad anymore. I will however be mad when the Spurs sit on their ass again and do absolutely nothing to improve this team for next year. Trust the process guys as we will have entered 8 straight years of not making the playoffs. When from 1973-2017 we had only 4 such seasons as a franchise.

We are the new Kings of the nba. Bad ownership. Bad GM. Bad coach. Bad assistant coaches. Bad player development. And cheap to boot. I’ve never seen such a scared chicken shit organization. You were gifted Wemby and instead of improving the team you want to take it slow and sit on your ass and hope everything just magically improves. Fucking ridiculous. I want Jimmy Butler. Trade for his ass. I don’t want to get the 12 pick and get another guy who doesn’t know how to play basketball and wait another 4 years for him to be good when he probably won’t be.It blows my mind how we don't run plays for Wemby down low. How the fuck is this even possible? If this isn't an intentional tank then all of the coaches need to go.

[Pauleta14]

cause hes a good pg acording to spurstalk.Even tho he cant make a open 3 and is a average passer.

Yeah they all came with a bunch of stats to explain how reliable as a great back up PG he is... :lmao

They're doing the same with Sochan to justify his playing time

[TekXX]

Mitch should have challenged that goal tend

[onechance87]

It is ok to admit: our roster sucks, our coach sucks, but also our franchise guy has a 'soft' gene in him

Hes sick of this roster we got.Look at memphis talent compared to us.Its sickening.

[Robz4000]

Franchise needs a total reset tbh.

[Gibbz]

our franchise guy has a 'soft' gene in him

I expected it as soon as we won the lottery but it's still pretty maddening to see retarded takes like this from the fanbase.

[scott]

We're going to be about 7 games behind .500 after the road trip.

Might be worse. We play Feb 1 at home, and don’t play in San Antonio again until MARCH

[LeBowen]

For fucks sake why are they reviewing this shit, just get on with the game.

[Mugen]

Unbelievably soft team, man.

Mitch leaving them to die during that 3rd quarter stretch should be a fireable offense. He looked absolutely shell shocked.

[SPURt]

The box score doesn’t look awful for Wemby, but he definitely is in a funk. Not gonna win a lot of games with whatever tonight was.

[Dverde]

Did Blake Wesley hit on someone’s wife? Why does he get no minutes. I get Branham, but Wesley still has some potential left.

[skin27]

The box score doesn’t look awful for Wemby, but he definitely is in a funk. Not gonna win a lot of games with whatever tonight was.

41% from the field is awful

[Pauleta14]

Careful calling out Wemby out here :lol

Bro nobody is giving Wemby a pass, for whatever reason he clearly doesn't have the juice and uses most of his energy on defense.

What you're watching is just Wemby stop being a cheat code for a few games on offense and exposing this shitty roster and coach

[scott]

Wonder if Mitch plans on leaving our starters in all 4Q again as some kind of weird punishment

[spursistan]

Unbelievably soft team, man.

Mitch leaving them to die during that 3rd quarter stretch should be a fireable offense. He looked absolutely shell shocked.
i think he might have coached his way out of the potential job during that quarter.

[Dverde]

Get run off the court twice by the same team at home says it all.

[Uriel]

Even Doris Burke is laying onto this team :lol

[LeBowen]

I'll just copy/paste my post from the other day.

Wells: 39th pick
Bane: 30th
Aldama: 30th
Pippen Jr: undrafted
LaRavia: 19th
Kennard: took him as a salary dump
Clarke: 21st
Huff: undrafted
Smart: Tyus Jones, Sasser and a SRP

And they didn't fuck up their high picks, got JJJ and Ja.
Then you look at our player development as of late and this is nothing but front office difference.

[Spurs Homer]

It seems like every single nba team not named spurs…

has a dozen guys no one ever heard of
who just sink three after three after three

while the spurs only signed projects who never learned how to shoot a motherfucking jump shot…

[tbdog]

Grizz just wont miss. My god.

[slick'81]

Memphis owns the spurs

[Dverde]

Why do they keep playing Paul and Barnes in games that are not close makes no sense.

[thiste]

For some reason they literally can't miss a shot. Unbelievable

[Strategic]

Maybe they’re setting up Pop’s return

[TekXX]

Cmon no one was hiring Mitch regardless and def not now.

[scott]

Legit LOL @ this Mamu-Bassey-Collins lineup.

[LeBowen]

Now we just need that Japanese midget to break Collins' ankles and it's a solid night.

[Dverde]

Memphis would be the #1 seed if they played in San Antonio all season.

[scott]

Getting demolished so badly that we get to see Yuki minutes

[TXstbobcat]

even without Ja Morant it’s a fucking Ike Turner beatdown

[slick'81]

This is embarrassing

[spurs1990]

they have two potential top 10 picks in a loaded draft. GIve them a pass until 2026 to be a playoff team

[Dverde]

Jimmy Butler would help Memphis in the playoffs. These scrubs will crater when the pace slows down.

[sananspursfan21]

Man, I’ve got tickets to see them at the FedEx forum Feb 3. If this is how it’s gonna be, I might just play hooky, I’ve got ticket insurance…

[spursistan]

Bro nobody is giving Wemby a pass, for whatever reason he clearly doesn't have the juice and uses most of his energy on defense.

What you're watching is just Wemby stop being a cheat code for a few games on offense and exposing this shitty roster and coach
You even said it before, Castle showing more poise, maturity and even dog in him than Wemby is a bit problematic for me. Is this his response to being posterized by Morant while going 5-19? Goes way too invisible in a game offensively for someone with his size. Multiple games with zero FTs or offensive rebounds speak for a lack overall aggression and a desire to win ugly if needed

[onechance87]

Cant believe we passed on wells in the second round.Man our coaches and scouts are trash.

[scott]

I think it is fair to ask… did RC Buford fuck Taylor Jenkins’ wife or some shit?

This guy fucking owns us and these guys are ruthless against us. No quarter given.

[Spurs Brazil]

Every team we face have one oh two guys that can’t shoot. Half our roster can’t

[kxs783kms]

I expected it as soon as we won the lottery but it's still pretty maddening to see retarded takes like this from the fanbase.

I second this statement.

[Pauleta14]

Jaylen Wells is such a find...

We need to hire/steal some of MEM staff

[Raven]

another loss on mitch . worst performance of the season in a league worst coaching season. guy needs to go.

[tim_duncan_fan]

Sorry guys, but if we started tanking for some reason, I would not necessarily be mad.

Castle may or may not develop a jump shot in a couple years, but even if he does, we don't really have enough in the pipeline. And anyway, we are waiting for Vic to get physically stronger before he can metaphorically carry us, and that's gonna take some time too.

I'm not necessarily calling for the tank, but if it happens....hey :toast.

[Spurs Homer]

140 points without morant…

every scrub on grizz shot like curry

[hoopdreams11]

Who is the shooting coach for the Grizzlies

[Mugen]

I can't believe how long BWrong will end up being employed by this organization tbh.

[onechance87]

they have two potential top 10 picks in a loaded draft. GIve them a pass until 2026 to be a playoff team

not with this coaching and scouts.We brought back wesley and branham back another year.Shows what kind
of front office we got.

[sananspursfan21]

Sooooooooo, was the LA game an anomaly?

[Knoxxx]

We’ve got some work to do still, but this is a nice bit of progress towards catching CHI and PHI for the 8th lottery position.

[skin27]

Man cant expect wemby to win DPOY when his team is giving 140pts

[Robz4000]

Jaylen Wells is such a find...

We need to hire/steal some of MEM staff

Memphis stole all of the Spurs' scouts tbh.

[Gibbz]

another loss on mitch . worst performance of the season in a league worst coaching season. guy needs to go.

Tonight and @ Philly probably the worst two.

[Gibbz]

Sooooooooo, was the LA game an anomaly?

LAL just checks out if they don't have it going on. Their point differential is terrible despite the good record.

[scott]

I can't believe how long BWrong will end up being employed by this organization tbh.

There is a plan. You just don’t see it. You have to be patient, and then one day POOF we’ll be good again and have those juicy pick swaps to fall back on

[Pauleta14]

You even said it before, Castle showing more poise, maturity and even dog in him than Wemby is a bit problematic for me. Is this his response to being posterized by Morant while going 5-19? Goes way too invisible in a game offensively for someone with his size. Multiple games with zero FTs or offensive rebounds speak for a lack overall aggression and a desire to win ugly if needed

I agree on that aspect of his personality, I hope it's just part of the process/his age and he'll stop being a nice guy all the time (with his teammates included)

However, I think people don't realize that what he's doing on a regular basis isn't normal and shouldn't even be expected. It's an insane task to have to carry every game this roster and be the center of attention/game plan of every teams for a sophomore.

I genuinely think he's exhausted and I'm still challenging anyone to name one player that has to carry a bigger load on both ends combined.

Let's not be greedy nor miss the real issues. Not expect him to be a cheat code all the time

[TekXX]

they have two potential top 10 picks in a loaded draft. GIve them a pass until 2026 to be a playoff team

They've proven they don't really have the best eye for talent so best we can hope for is a serviceable player like Castle. We desperately need a second option and i don't trust this organization to draft that guy.

[rascal]

We’ve got some work to do still, but this is a nice bit of progress towards catching CHI and PHI for the 8th lottery position.

The 8th position will give the spurs a chance at a top 4 pick. Need that top 4 pick this year in a top heavy draft.

[Pauleta14]

Sorry guys, but if we started tanking for some reason, I would not necessarily be mad.

Castle may or may not develop a jump shot in a couple years, but even if he does, we don't really have enough in the pipeline. And anyway, we are waiting for Vic to get physically stronger before he can metaphorically carry us, and that's gonna take some time too.

I'm not necessarily calling for the tank, but if it happens....hey :toast.

I think that if Wemby didn't want to be DPOY it would be an option. But not with that goal at least until he reaches 65 games

[Spurminator]

Lost all the momentum right here.

https://i.imgur.com/VU2vvtg.jpeg

[Pauleta14]

Memphis stole all of the Spurs' scouts tbh.

And Okc their HOF maker shooting coach smh

The corporate knowledge loss ridiculous, PATFO is living on their past accomplishments

[TekXX]

Is the medical guy a coach too, why does he get a front row seat?

[Spurminator]

I think I posted the wrong photo. Anyway, that's when Mitch stood there with his humb up his ass while his staff was begging him to challenge the Vassell goaltending call.

[TekXX]

I think I posted the wrong photo. Anyway, that's when Mitch stood there with his humb up his ass while his staff was begging him to challenge the Vassell goaltending call.

Why other think it, if it's a bad call, challenge it. It allowed Memphis to build a lead.

[Mugen]

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Did Mitch really say he didn't have a timeout left at the end of the 3rd? Wtf :lol

[timtonymanu]

Mitch and his generic looking ass can go, but even so there’s way more problems on this team than coaching.

[Duncan2177]

Mitch and his generic looking ass can go, but even so there’s way more problems on this team than coaching.

The Spurs FO will have their work cut out for them this summer.

[spursistan]

I’ll wait until the game ends to give my final thoughts but this feels very rinse and repeat of a meltdown in the 2nd half where the spurs give up 40 points in a quarter.
You knew deep down that was a loss even while the game was tied with 2 minutes to go in the half :lol. It's sad that we know what this team is made of..I would argue they have regressed from early in the season in the sense that they now let go of the rope and don't respond to other teams' runs.

[szkorhetz]

Santi F. Aldama outplayed Wemby, two games in a row. :rollin
Getting 140 points without Morant... This team is a joke. :lmao

[timtonymanu]

You knew deep down that was a loss even while the game was tied with 2 minutes to go in the half :lol. It's sad that we know what this team is made of..I would argue they have regressed from early in the season in the sense that they now let go of the rope and don't respond to other teams' runs.

I also think that early run was flukey. Most teams are still figuring things out or coasting. “It’s only November” is the old saying we threw around here during the contending seasons when bad teams would beat us. Playing your best ball in November means absolutely nothing.

Now teams figured us out and we peaked. At least the losses should start evening out now. No way do I want PATFO to think this team has any shot of making a playoff run. Time to stop the sentimental crap and time to put talent on this team.

[CorrectCrusader]

Never trust a lightskin with a lowcut fade w a perm

[Jordan Jackson]

Jaylen Wells is such a find...

We need to hire/steal some of MEM staff

They stole the Spurs staff. Jokes on us.

[Spurs Homer]

The 8th position will give the spurs a chance at a top 4 pick. Need that top 4 pick this year in a top heavy draft.


sure buddy,

the 4th pick will be traded to a rival for their 2044 “protected” pick

[onechance87]

Im down for tanking,But feel like its gonna fck with wembys development hugely not having a true playmaker if we
trade cp3 or cut him to let him go to a contender.

[The Truth #6]

We had been playing games very closely until about a week or so ago. Was that due to Sochan's defense? Trying to make sense of these losses.

[Ice009]

Absolutely not happy with this loss. No Ja Morant and you get your ass whipped? That's a lottery team. The Grizzlies are good, but the Spurs layed down, and Mitch acted like a bitch not challenging that goal tending call. Didn't even call a timeout to stop that run (or did he?).

I really thought the Spurs could make a run at the play-in, but it's not looking like it at all now. This loss was a bad one. Still upset they'd get smashed when the Grizz had their best player missing. As I said, the Grizzlies are good, but if you want to make the playoffs, this is a game you have to win when the other team is missing their best player and you're playing at home.

[poopbox]

We had been playing games very closely until about a week or so ago. Was that due to Sochan's defense? Trying to make sense of these losses.

We are playing teams with way better players than we have.

After Wemby, the other team has somewhere between 2 and 5 of the next best players in the game :rollin

Unless we are playing the worst teams in the nba, the other's team shooting guard is better than Devin, the other teams power forward is better than Sochan, the other teams small forward is better than Barnes, and the other teams backup center is better than collins and/or bassey.

[rankingtear]

Were down to bottom 5 defense without our boy Sochan and his "3pt shooting in the clutch".

[RC_Drunkford]

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Did Mitch really say he didn't have a timeout left at the end of the 3rd? Wtf :lol

he probably meant he called so many that he couldn't waste the ones reserved for the 4th in the 3rd. Makes perfect sense, I mean you need those time outs to run a play for the third stringers once we're down 25 :lol

[John B]

I think I posted the wrong photo. Anyway, that's when Mitch stood there with his humb up his ass while his staff was begging him to challenge the Vassell goaltending call.

Even after everybody seeing on the Jumbotron.

[z0sa]

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Did Mitch really say he didn't have a timeout left at the end of the 3rd? Wtf :lol

what the fuck did I just watch? No, really, that was surreal. How the fuck is this coaching staff in the big leagues ...

[slick'81]

This is probably one of the worst staffs weve ever had and of course we lose pop

[spursparker9]

JJJ is a wemby killer tbh.

Anyone notice that Memphis is the only team that don't run pick n roll/pop. :lol. Somehow their random and 1 on 1 attacks work

[John B]

JJJ is a wemby killer tbh.

Anyone notice that Memphis is the only team that don't run pick n roll/pop. :lol. Somehow their random and 1 on 1 attacks work

I would post some of Wemby’s blocks on JJJ but I don’t know if you’re serious :lol

[rascal]

Im down for tanking,But feel like its gonna fck with wembys development hugely not having a true playmaker if we
trade cp3 or cut him to let him go to a contender.

What contender is trading for Paul?

[LeBowen]

My biggest concern is that there's no accountability.
I'd be happy if someone can point out any indications that there is, I just don't see it.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

My biggest concern is that there's no accountability.
I'd be happy if someone can point out any indications that there is, I just don't see it.

It's the same thing you saw with the Patriots under Belicheck at the end. Same story here with Pop. He runs the place with an iron fist, and no one is going to do anything other than keep on doing what they've been doing.

It's why this organization so desperately needs a reset at the top. Pop, Wright, and dare I say R.C., all need to go. Time for new blood with a vision for Wemby and team other than 'we like what we have' to lead this.

[quentin_compson]

Well, one team in this game was well-coached and had a lot of good players who know how to play an intelligent brand of winning basketball. The other team was the Spurs ...

[Pauleta14]

JJJ is a wemby killer tbh.

Anyone notice that Memphis is the only team that don't run pick n roll/pop. :lol. Somehow their random and 1 on 1 attacks work

MEM is actually coached and prepared, JJJ didn't do shit by himself but thx to help defense.

Go take a look at JJJ's stat line and realize that it's actually Wemby who's a JJJ killer, and he's been defending him without help.

Wemby is clearly in a slump tho

[Tyronn Lue]

It's the same thing you saw with the Patriots under Belicheck at the end. Same story here with Pop. He runs the place with an iron fist, and no one is going to do anything other than keep on doing what they've been doing.

It's why this organization so desperately needs a reset at the top. Pop, Wright, and dare I say R.C., all need to go. Time for new blood with a vision for Wemby and team other than 'we like what we have' to lead this.
More likely that Victor will sign elsewhere after his rookie contract is up.