View Full Version : China checkmates US AI monopoly. Gifts its OpenAI killer Deepseek to the world at no cost
hater
01-24-2025, 02:56 PM
Game over :lmao
Ce la vi
https://x.com/Kanthan2030/status/1882738191540838424
hater
01-24-2025, 02:57 PM
US corporations in meltdown mode :lmao :lmao
https://x.com/SilverSpookGuy/status/1882525126039916819
hater
01-24-2025, 03:00 PM
Fuck around
Find out :lmao
https://x.com/maxwinga/status/1881372837296083440
hater
01-24-2025, 03:03 PM
Play stupid games
https://x.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1882600399657705725
:lmao
hater
01-24-2025, 03:04 PM
:lmao
https://x.com/arithmoquine/status/1882667756153368663
ChumpDumper
01-24-2025, 03:04 PM
I think I just heard a bubble burst.
hater
01-24-2025, 03:05 PM
Holeee sheeet
https://x.com/kitahnji/status/1882714097432813964
hater
01-24-2025, 03:06 PM
I think I just heard a bubble burst.
But but Dumps Stargate.....
:lmao :lmao :lmao
Every government in the world now can do AI for peanuts :lol
I knew tgat Stargate bullshit reminded me of the Star Wars missile defense project :lol
hater
01-24-2025, 03:08 PM
Unless we start launching the nukes now... I think we are COOKED :lmao
ChumpDumper
01-24-2025, 03:12 PM
Unless we start launching the nukes now... I think we are COOKED :lmao
Might actually be a good thing for America to stop investing so much money and literal energy into AI development.
hater
01-24-2025, 03:18 PM
Lol
https://x.com/OopsGuess/status/1882625739293646868
hater
01-24-2025, 03:38 PM
January 20, 2025
We should remember this date. Most likely the date historians will point at the exact moment the Chinese Empire overtook the American.
https://x.com/AnjneyMidha/status/1882669123492368586
Winehole23
01-24-2025, 03:47 PM
Not having top end AI chips forced them to focus on efficient use of materials.
Apparently raw computational power isn't everything.
https://www.technologyreview.com/2025/01/24/1110526/china-deepseek-top-ai-despite-sanctions/
Winehole23
01-24-2025, 03:57 PM
Might actually be a good thing for America to stop investing so much money and literal energy into AI development.apparently the energy cost of DeepSeek on a per query basis is 30x less
Joseph Kony
01-24-2025, 04:04 PM
Lol
https://x.com/OopsGuess/status/1882625739293646868
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtntTvuv8Aw
hater
01-24-2025, 06:06 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtntTvuv8Aw
:lmao
Damn I love The Dude :cry
koriwhat
01-24-2025, 06:14 PM
Pretty impressive from what I just read on other sites. I'm still never going to sign up on that CCP website.
Blake
01-24-2025, 06:35 PM
Might actually be a good thing for America to stop investing so much money and literal energy into AI development.
People really have no clue just how much energy AI used
hater
01-24-2025, 07:06 PM
Pretty impressive from what I just read on other sites. I'm still never going to sign up on that CCP website.
The US government will use your information for their gains as much as the CCP
Just realize the difference is China made their AI opensource
Which means you can run it locally on your house. And that info wont get to the CCP.
Also opensource means you can actually see the code every fucking line. American companies dont let you see their code.
koriwhat
01-24-2025, 07:37 PM
The US government will use your information for their gains as much as the CCP
Just realize the difference is China made their AI opensource
Which means you can run it locally on your house. And that info wont get to the CCP.
Also opensource means you can actually see the code every fucking line. American companies dont let you see their code.
Yes I know our info is no safer in the hands of our own Government and opensource has been in my lexicon since like '97-'98. Yet I still don't trust anything CCP. :tu
Blake
01-24-2025, 09:44 PM
Of course Kommiewhat thinks Chinese technology is impressive.
How much was stolen from Silicon Valley?
hater
01-25-2025, 07:40 AM
Yes I know our info is no safer in the hands of our own Government and opensource has been in my lexicon since like '97-'98. Yet I still don't trust anything CCP. :tu
I respect that. :tu
But.... Its open source. Which means you can see every single line of its code.
hater
01-25-2025, 07:41 AM
https://x.com/philippilk/status/1882905337981964500
Winehole23
01-25-2025, 07:49 AM
How much was stolen from Silicon Valley?be interesting to know
here's one version of the backstory: https://x.com/henrythe9ths/status/1881663102791626846
Winehole23
01-25-2025, 07:53 AM
I think I just heard a bubble burst.
It's essentially as if someone had released a mobile on par with the iPhone but was selling it for $30 instead of $1000.
Winehole23
01-26-2025, 09:44 AM
1. Development Costs (https://medium.com/@mourao.martins/openai-vs-deepseek-a-comparative-analysis-of-capital-expenditure-capex-investing-7beb884d196e#1-development-costs)
OpenAI: OpenAI’s GPT-4o model reportedly cost over $100 million to develop, involving extensive computational resources and advanced hardware like Nvidia’s H100 GPUs. The training process required millions of GPU hours, reflecting the high cost of frontier AI models .
DeepSeek: DeepSeek’s V3 model, with 671 billion parameters, was developed at a fraction of the cost—just $5.58 million. This was achieved using Nvidia’s H800 GPUs, which are less powerful but more cost-effective, and innovative techniques like Mixture-of-Experts (MoE) architecture .
2. Hardware and Resource Utilization (https://medium.com/@mourao.martins/openai-vs-deepseek-a-comparative-analysis-of-capital-expenditure-capex-investing-7beb884d196e#2-hardware-and-resource-utilization)
OpenAI: OpenAI relies on cutting-edge hardware, such as Nvidia’s H100 GPUs, which are subject to U.S. export restrictions to China. This reliance on high-performance chips significantly drives up costs .
DeepSeek: DeepSeek has optimized its hardware usage by employing Nvidia’s H800 GPUs, tailored for the Chinese market. The company also uses advanced techniques like multi-token prediction and dynamic load balancing to reduce computational requirements .
3. Training Efficiency (https://medium.com/@mourao.martins/openai-vs-deepseek-a-comparative-analysis-of-capital-expenditure-capex-investing-7beb884d196e#3-training-efficiency)
OpenAI: OpenAI’s models typically require months of training and millions of GPU hours. For example, Meta’s Llama 3.1, a comparable model, required 30.8 million GPU hours .
DeepSeek: DeepSeek’s V3 model was trained in just two months using 2.78 million GPU hours, showcasing remarkable efficiency. This was achieved through algorithmic innovations and hardware optimizations .
https://medium.com/@mourao.martins/openai-vs-deepseek-a-comparative-analysis-of-capital-expenditure-capex-investing-7beb884d196e
hater
01-27-2025, 07:39 AM
Nvidia getting wreckt :lmao
https://x.com/spectatorindex/status/1883827642690056675
Winehole23
01-27-2025, 08:36 AM
"missile gap"
"save us big daddy!"
https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:bbp2b224lro3bfnzcqwwnkfo/bafkreiel7whj7zn6372peg7mjj53vbewrzi7o3wgpamazwcg4 rmxeysuei@jpeg
hater
01-27-2025, 08:48 AM
Ce la vi
https://x.com/thinking_panda/status/1883849302939971783
hater
01-27-2025, 09:04 AM
:lmao
https://x.com/Schuldensuehner/status/1883826164575383654
Winehole23
01-27-2025, 11:10 AM
squishy sourcing for DeepSeek figures?
I'm jokerfying (https://bsky.app/profile/edzitron.com/post/3lgqc2vyajk2f)in real time. The $5.58 million training number for DeepSeek's V3 model appears to be based on a tweet from a guy called Jim Fan who works at NVIDIA, except I can find no evidence of the tweet existing other than articles in the South China Morning Post citing them without a link
Winehole23
01-27-2025, 11:24 AM
did $200B in capex on AI just get wasted, or will daddy Trump rush in to try to save the broligarchs who've been bringing him sacks of gold?
Winehole23
01-27-2025, 11:37 AM
“[It] is deeply problematic for the thesis that the significant capital expenditure and operating expenses that Silicon Valley has incurred is the most appropriate way to approach the AI trend,’ said Nirgunan Tiruchelvam, head of consumer and internet at Aletheia Capital. “It calls into question the massive resources that have been dedicated to AI.”
ChumpDumper
01-27-2025, 12:00 PM
Never thought I'd be thanking the fucking Chinese for pausing the US tech bullshit machine. This might work out better happening relatively early in the process, but the forecast calls for pain.
hater
01-27-2025, 01:59 PM
Bloody Helll
https://x.com/KobeissiLetter/status/1883927276800336124
hater
01-27-2025, 02:04 PM
Never thought I'd be thanking the fucking Chinese for pausing the US tech bullshit machine. This might work out better happening relatively early in the process, but the forecast calls for pain.
:lmao
https://x.com/TrungTPhan/status/1883733264294396277
hater
01-27-2025, 02:05 PM
https://x.com/bearlyai/status/1883619089933058266
hater
01-27-2025, 02:07 PM
:lol
https://x.com/CarlosL31742879/status/1883934557164188154
SnakeBoy
01-27-2025, 02:15 PM
Never thought I'd be thanking the fucking Chinese for pausing the US tech bullshit machine. This might work out better happening relatively early in the process, but the forecast calls for pain.
lol nothing has been paused
hater
01-27-2025, 02:44 PM
Lolz
https://x.com/zerohedge/status/1883917389299155111
Winehole23
01-27-2025, 02:47 PM
lol nothing has been pausedyou're right, investors aren't pausing, they're panic selling
ChumpDumper
01-27-2025, 02:54 PM
lol nothing has been pausedYou don't see any sort of change in US AI business strategy happening soon?
Bullish on Nvidia?
Give us your personal opinion.
Winehole23
01-27-2025, 03:02 PM
Snake Boy literally has nothing to say about anything
ChumpDumper
01-27-2025, 03:05 PM
Snake Boy literally has nothing to say about anything
He and Darrin are black pilled thinking they are red pilled.
SnakeBoy
01-27-2025, 04:21 PM
Bullish on Nvidia?
I will be if it gets to the low $90's
hater
01-27-2025, 04:46 PM
:lmao
These bitches are melting down so hard :lol
"China sharing their AI knowledge to the world for free is dangerous"
:lmao
https://x.com/Techmeme/status/1883007254682587470
hater
01-27-2025, 04:47 PM
I will be if it gets to the low $90's
Trade like your favorite congresswoman :lmao
https://x.com/QuiverQuant/status/1883940677840687306
SnakeBoy
01-27-2025, 05:03 PM
Trade like your favorite congresswoman :lmao
https://x.com/QuiverQuant/status/1883940677840687306
She is the GOAT.
I chickened out and sold Palantir the day before the election, missed the Trump bump. Still sitting on st T-bills. Hopefully the market tanks soon and I can start having some fun again.
ChumpDumper
01-27-2025, 05:30 PM
I will be if it gets to the low $90's
You don't see any sort of change in US AI business strategy happening soon?
SnakeBoy
01-27-2025, 05:41 PM
You don't see any sort of change in US AI business strategy happening soon?
Like what?
ChumpDumper
01-27-2025, 05:55 PM
Like what?"ANY SORT"
SnakeBoy
01-27-2025, 05:58 PM
"ANY SORT"
Like what?
ChumpDumper
01-27-2025, 05:59 PM
snacks folds
SnakeBoy
01-27-2025, 06:09 PM
snacks folds
Yeah I'm not going to flush out your vague assertion for you
ChumpDumper
01-27-2025, 06:11 PM
Yeah I'm not going to flush out your vague assertion for youIt's not an assertion; it's a very simple, broad question.
Just say you don't think anything will change. It's fine.
SnakeBoy
01-27-2025, 06:18 PM
So nothing is paused...cool
Winehole23
01-27-2025, 06:24 PM
The length some people will go to to avoid expressing a determinate opinion -- in this subforum, on this anonymous message board -- is amusing.
hater
01-27-2025, 06:28 PM
:lmao damns
https://x.com/DeItaone/status/1883922483730100462
ChumpDumper
01-27-2025, 06:31 PM
So nothing is paused...cool:lmao your timeframe is hours? Seconds?
Why are you so afraid?
ChumpDumper
01-27-2025, 06:45 PM
I guess the signs were there all along....
1881998957427241291
https://x.com/jimcramer/status/1881998957427241291
hater
01-27-2025, 08:28 PM
I guess the signs were there all along....
1881998957427241291
https://x.com/jimcramer/status/1881998957427241291
Apple is up 3%
Why?
Because Deepseek Lite can run on an iphone :lmao
hater
01-27-2025, 09:36 PM
:lmao
A few chinese students just dismantled entire US AI Agenda for the next 10 years :lmao :lmao
https://x.com/svpino/status/1883881919328497870
:lol stolen from silicon valley. Let's praise the thieves.
Winehole23
01-27-2025, 09:45 PM
that's exactly how Silicon Valley got us all hooked (starting) thirty years ago
https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:oloqvkuiie22qabj5m6xg4th/bafkreicbrqmuq5tbw4xdeo2ksr4ybg7iaei2xnp3sgdx7p6cu py4p5queu@jpeg
https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:oloqvkuiie22qabj5m6xg4th/bafkreicqfemma7v5ddbyzdjvh2ronsmv37dmjbefnyeiagznl thppu4hgi@jpeg
OpenAI was stealing data from us because that's how they can hang with the CCP. This is nothing but a ploy to muddy the water over Taiwan.
hater
01-27-2025, 09:51 PM
OpenAI was stealing data from us because that's how they can hang with the CCP. This is nothing but a ploy to muddy the water over Taiwan.
:lmao :lmao
Cry some more
:lmao :lmao
Cry some more
Yeah, trust the CCP over an American company and see how it far gets you.
hater
01-27-2025, 09:56 PM
Yeah, trust the CCP over an American company and see how it far gets you.
You trust Sam Altman :lmao
Dude is a freak :lmao
Ce la vi
hater
01-27-2025, 09:57 PM
https://x.com/spectatorindex/status/1883959535938986481
You trust Sam Altman :lmao
Dude is a freak :lmao
Ce la vi
Still subject to regulation that we, the people, control. Not the CCP.
Btw, we all knew (or should've known) this bubble would burst. See ya later.
Winehole23
01-27-2025, 10:02 PM
OpenAI was stealing data from us because that's how they can hang with the CCP. This is nothing but a ploy to muddy the water over Taiwan.not sure I see the connection with Taiwan
not saying you're wrong, it's just not intuitive to me
not sure I see the connection with Taiwan
not saying you're wrong, it's just not intuitive to me
Taiwan exists in a political vacuum that relies upon our goodwill. The second our goodwill is even questionable, Taiwan ceases to exist. Anything that can reduce the impact of Taiwanese chip manufacturing, especially in the common man's mind, is a win for China. My opinion, I have nothing tangential.
hater
01-27-2025, 10:07 PM
Still subject to regulation that we, the people, control. Not the CCP.
:lmao regulation :lmao
Melon Usk has an office in the white house. How is that regulation? :lmao
Bezos was flashing her wifes titties during inauguration. How is that regulation? :lol
Enjoy giving all your data to this freak :lol
https://x.com/TFTC21/status/1882571514891080030
That's your man, Trump. the fuck you talking about, dude?
You support this liar and grifter and his powerful friends through til the CCP tells you not to? Fuck you
Winehole23
01-27-2025, 10:16 PM
Taiwan exists in a political vacuum that relies upon our goodwill. The second our goodwill is even questionable, Taiwan ceases to exist. Anything that can reduce the impact of Taiwanese chip manufacturing, especially in the common man's mind, is a win for China. My opinion, I have nothing tangential.ah, I think I get it now
if Taiwan's processor chips suddenly have less geostrategic importance for the USA, then so does Taiwan, leaving it weaker with regard to China
or something like that?
Winehole23
01-27-2025, 10:18 PM
That's your man, Trump. the fuck you talking about, dude?hater isn't coherent
ah, I think I get it now
if Taiwan's processor chips suddenly have less geostrategic importance for the USA, then so does Taiwan, leaving it weaker with regard to China
or something like that?
Exactly. It's only a hunch. But everything China does in regards to us has Taiwan front and center. That's how I view their actions, always. Maybe I'm wrong, and this is a simple democratic leak of an AI the CCP wishes they had kept control of. But I doubt it.
Winehole23
01-27-2025, 10:28 PM
Exactly. It's only a hunch. But everything China does in regards to us has Taiwan front and center. That's how I view their actions, always. Maybe I'm wrong, and this is a simple democratic leak of an AI the CCP wishes they had kept control of. But I doubt it.Oh no, DeepSeek releasing the beta on Friday and the Pro edition on Monday was obviously calculated to ratfuck Silicon Valley -- and maybe Taiwan too.
My understanding that is that there's a hedge fund or private equity group behind DeepSeek, making a great big pile of money off the misery of their competitors during the rollout chimes with that.
hater
01-27-2025, 10:32 PM
That's your man, Trump. the fuck you talking about, dude?
Wrong. The orange bastard is not my man. Never was
I never voted for him
hater
01-27-2025, 10:33 PM
You support this liar and grifter and his powerful friends through til the CCP tells you not to? Fuck you
And biden and kamala are not grifters and liars??
:lmao
How infantile :lol
hater
01-27-2025, 10:36 PM
"china got a bunch of chinese students and gave them 5 milliion dollars and 2 months to embarrass US AI corporations because of Taiwan"
:lmao
Sherlock and Dr. watson are on the case :lmao
hater
01-27-2025, 10:43 PM
Speaking of the oramge bastard :lmao
https://x.com/DeItaone/status/1884019377672184170
hater
01-27-2025, 10:51 PM
:lmao :lmao
Holee sheet
Its not even 10 days and this mofo has lost his damn mind :lmao :lmao
https://x.com/Acyn/status/1884019669830656088
He looks done
Maybe the white house chef doing work on this fat ass :lol
And biden and kamala are not grifters and liars??
:lmao
How infantile :lol
:lol ditching Trump now that it's inconvenient
Pathetic, bro
hater
01-27-2025, 11:17 PM
:lol ditching Trump now that it's inconvenient
Pathetic, bro
Doubling down on stupid is not a good look brah
Do better
Doubling down on stupid is not a good look brah
Do better
If I wanted to double down on stupid, I could have much to learn from you, beautiful
"china got a bunch of chinese students and gave them 5 milliion dollars and 2 months to embarrass US AI corporations because of Taiwan"
:lmao
Sherlock and Dr. watson are on the case :lmao
:lol thinking Taiwan isn't front and center in our little bro's mind, 24/7
:madrun how can we take Taiwan without getting skullfucked 1000/1 by the US Military :madrun
hater
01-27-2025, 11:21 PM
If I wanted to double down on stupid, I could have much to learn from you, beautiful
That sentence reads like a stupid person wrote it
Do better
That sentence reads like a stupid person wrote it
Do better
:lol stick to trolling, it's a lot funnier than your "real" takes.
Oh no, DeepSeek releasing the beta on Friday and the Pro edition on Monday was obviously calculated to ratfuck Silicon Valley -- and maybe Taiwan too.
My understanding that is that there's a hedge fund or private equity group behind DeepSeek, making a great big pile of money off the misery of their competitors during the rollout chimes with that.
No surprise. China, and the CCP by proxy, understands simple finance. Someone's getting rich, even if retards want to act like it's communism at work.
Winehole23
01-28-2025, 12:10 AM
re:Taiwan
President Trump is preparing to place tariffs beyond Chinese assembled electronics (https://www.pcmag.com/news/demand-for-pcs-smartphones-expected-to-plummet-under-trump-tariffs) to computer chips made in Taiwan, warning the tariffs could reach as high as 100%.
“In particular, in the very near future, we’re going to be placing tariffs on foreign production of computer chips, semiconductors and pharmaceuticals to return production of these essential goods to the United States,” Trump said in a speech (https://www.c-span.org/event/white-house-event/president-trump-at-house-gop-issues-conference/430492) to Republicans on Monday.
“They left us and went to Taiwan,” he then said in an apparent reference to how many of the leading US tech companies have been sourcing their processors from Taiwan’s TSMC, a top semiconductor manufacturer. TSMC has established a factory (https://www.pcmag.com/news/tsmc-may-produce-nvidia-blackwell-ai-chips-in-arizona) in Arizona, but much of its chip production remains in Taiwan, where it’s been serving clients including Apple, Nvidia, Qualcomm and AMD, among others.
https://www.pcmag.com/news/trump-to-tariff-chips-made-in-taiwan-targeting-tsmc
Winehole23
01-28-2025, 01:21 AM
Literally *3 days ago* he was talking about AI companies investing $500B in new datacenters, now he wants to tariff all the equipment lmao.
hater
01-28-2025, 07:28 AM
:lmao
https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1884178323439509988
hater
01-28-2025, 09:49 AM
https://x.com/thegrahamcooke/status/1883938104823931197
hater
01-28-2025, 09:57 AM
:lmao
https://x.com/EvanKirstel/status/1883701976829223236
hater
01-28-2025, 12:15 PM
Got damns :lmao
https://x.com/zerohedge/status/1884266429563937230
hater
01-28-2025, 12:16 PM
https://x.com/Schuldensuehner/status/1883942229317935245
SnakeBoy
01-28-2025, 01:07 PM
:lmao
https://x.com/EvanKirstel/status/1883701976829223236
More like
https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/boy-cheating-test-copying-boy-boy-cheating-test-copying-another-boy-148687926.jpg
ChumpDumper
01-28-2025, 01:11 PM
Seems that would be easy to prove. Is there proof?
hater
01-28-2025, 01:18 PM
Im gonna try this tbqh
Fully local full version of Deepseek :tu
https://x.com/carrigmat/status/1884244369907278106
Of course its a single user system :lmao
hater
01-28-2025, 01:25 PM
https://x.com/ai_for_success/status/1884059097563291868
SnakeBoy
01-28-2025, 02:25 PM
Seems that would be easy to prove. Is there proof?
Proof of what?
SnakeBoy
01-28-2025, 02:27 PM
https://charts.stocktwits-cdn.com/production/original_601853821.jpg
ChumpDumper
01-28-2025, 02:27 PM
Proof of what?
More like
https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/boy-cheating-test-copying-boy-boy-cheating-test-copying-another-boy-148687926.jpg
Are you shocked that you implied an opinion?
Was it an accident?
SnakeBoy
01-28-2025, 02:28 PM
All the robinhooders who were loading up puts yesterday :lmao
SnakeBoy
01-28-2025, 02:29 PM
Use your words Chump
ChumpDumper
01-28-2025, 02:30 PM
Use your words ChumpI just asked you to use yours since you posted a picture.
If you can't or are afraid to do so, I accept that.
Winehole23
01-29-2025, 12:34 AM
AI techlords are pissed that their intellectual property rights were (allegedly) not respected
White House artificial intelligence and crypto czar David Sacks was asked on Fox News if there was intellectual property theft involved in the rise of DeepSeek.
"Well, it's possible. There's a technique in AI called distillation, which you're going to hear a lot about, and it's when one model learns from another model," Sacks said in the interview.
"I think one of the things you're going to see over the next few months is our leading AI companies taking steps to try and prevent distillation ... That would definitely slow down some of these copycat models," he added.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/white-house-evaluates-china-ai-185638995.html
SnakeBoy
01-29-2025, 12:37 AM
David Sacks, Trump’s AI and crypto “czar,” said in an interview on Fox on Tuesday that there’s “substantial evidence” that Chinese AI company DeepSeek “distilled” knowledge from OpenAI’s AI models, a process that Sacks compared to theft.
ChumpDumper
01-29-2025, 01:32 AM
David Sacks, Trump’s AI and crypto “czar,” said in an interview on Fox on Tuesday that there’s “substantial evidence” that Chinese AI company DeepSeek “distilled” knowledge from OpenAI’s AI models, a process that Sacks compared to theft.Great. Show the evidence.
Or is it secret?
Winehole23
01-29-2025, 01:49 AM
enthusiasm for growth in nuclear power and data centers corrects
Uranium mine developers Bannerman Energy (ASX: BMN (https://www.morningstar.com.au/investments/security/ASX/BMN)), Lotus Resources (ASX: LOT (https://www.morningstar.com.au/investments/security/ASX/LOT)) and Deep Yellow (ASX: DYL (https://www.morningstar.com.au/investments/security/ASX/DYL)) all fell by more than 15%, while the Betashares Global Uranium ETF (ASX: URNM (https://www.morningstar.com.au/investments/security/ASX/URNM)) lost 10%. Meanwhile in the data centre camp, Goodman Group (ASX:GMG (https://www.morningstar.com.au/investments/security/ASX/GMG)) shares fell by 8%, NextDC (ASX: NXT (https://www.morningstar.com.au/investments/security/ASX/NXT)) lost 7% and DigiCo’s Infrastructure REIT (ASX: DGT (https://www.morningstar.com.au/investments/security/ASX/DGT)) slumped 11.5%
diego
01-29-2025, 08:34 AM
David Sacks, Trump’s AI and crypto “czar,” said in an interview on Fox on Tuesday that there’s “substantial evidence” that Chinese AI company DeepSeek “distilled” knowledge from OpenAI’s AI models, a process that Sacks compared to theft.
Sounds a lot like "distilling" training from other people's work, let me find the tiny violins these AI CEOs used for the people whose work they ripped off
hater
01-29-2025, 08:43 AM
Sounds a lot like "distilling" training from other people's work, let me find the tiny violins these AI CEOs used for the people whose work they ripped off
Yup :lmao
hater
01-29-2025, 08:45 AM
:lmao. I already downloaded Deepseek model. Same as millions of ppl. Plus the free model is for the world, especially the 3rd world. Its not solely for the USA :lol
https://x.com/BenjaminNorton/status/1884428482031337662
Winehole23
01-29-2025, 08:47 AM
called it
Winehole23
01-29-2025, 08:48 AM
Congress can outlaw DeepSeek, Trump can even call them a national security threat, but they can't stuff the genie back in the bottle.
hater
01-29-2025, 09:48 AM
Congress can outlaw DeepSeek, Trump can even call them a national security threat, but they can't stuff the genie back in the bottle.
Yup
Thus the checkmate.
Open source
Winehole23
01-29-2025, 10:48 AM
1831483946087149841
https://x.com/JFrankensteiner/status/1831483946087149841
hater
01-29-2025, 12:00 PM
https://x.com/KobeissiLetter/status/1884629331911004472
hater
01-29-2025, 12:03 PM
:lmao
https://x.com/jason_koebler/status/1884613696816853461
hater
01-29-2025, 12:10 PM
AI company employees afraid they might lose their jobs to AI :lmao :lmao :lmao
hater
01-29-2025, 06:39 PM
We need china to take overthe world nigs :wow
Mamacita :tu
https://x.com/Kanthan2030/status/1884654114581471606
hater
01-29-2025, 06:40 PM
:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao
https://x.com/growing_daniel/status/1884705676884160959
China serving some knuckle sandwiches :lmao
koriwhat
01-29-2025, 06:58 PM
:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao
https://x.com/growing_daniel/status/1884705676884160959
China serving some knuckle sandwiches :lmao
This is who they are and who they've always been once we opened up our collective knowledge to the rest of the world. China produces while stealing and reproducing what they stole. We just continue to kick the can down the street to our detriment.
hater
01-29-2025, 08:17 PM
This is who they are and who they've always been once we opened up our collective knowledge to the rest of the world. China produces while stealing and reproducing what they stole. We just continue to kick the can down the street to our detriment.
USA stole everything from the getgo.
Starting with the land from the native americans.
Ce la vi
Karma is a biatch
hater
01-30-2025, 09:33 AM
:lmao
https://x.com/TrungTPhan/status/1884625292184130004
lefty
01-30-2025, 09:56 AM
USA stole everything from the getgo.
Starting with the land from the native americans.
Ce la vi
Karma is a biatch
This
lefty
01-30-2025, 09:57 AM
Tested it, it shits on ChatGPT tbh
hater
01-30-2025, 11:03 AM
Tested it, it shits on ChatGPT tbh
:tu
Ma niga
Ask it about Palestine :lol
hater
01-30-2025, 11:04 AM
:lmao :lmao
Orange bastard :lol
Hes clueless :lmao
https://x.com/ShangguanJiewen/status/1884862791414157750
I didnt know this fat motherfucker was so mentally gone at this point in his miserable life
Another 4 years of Dementia president smdh
Winehole23
01-30-2025, 11:11 AM
he's not all there
hater
01-30-2025, 11:14 AM
he's not all there
Hes a shell of the 2016 Trump
Damn
Nobody beats Father Time
Thread
01-30-2025, 05:24 PM
Hes a shell of the 2016 Trump
Damn
Nobody beats Father Time
...cept Christ..."So the world shall be His footstool, and the soul of Time His slave. Our God is marching on."
HE was there in that Pennsylvania berry patch this past Summer day.
Sure, HE will set him free in the not too distant future, but for now HE is using President Trump.
Let us proceed...
:lol Hater backtracking so fast
:lol Hater
:lol suddenly not a Trump fan, fooling no one
Thread
01-30-2025, 05:29 PM
he's not all there
Has a death hold on his own terrible swift sword though by God & Sonny Jesus.https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/raw/p0kl0wsj.jpg?v=9
Thread
01-30-2025, 05:30 PM
:lol Hater backtracking so fast
:lol Hater
:lol suddenly not a Trump fan, fooling no one
Word, 0.
A GD disgrace is what it is.
hater
01-30-2025, 09:11 PM
Damn
https://x.com/minchoi/status/1885060598188159212
hater
01-30-2025, 09:40 PM
:lol
What a tantrum by the West :lmao
https://x.com/CarlZha/status/1885115930516349180
hater
01-30-2025, 11:10 PM
:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao
What an epic meltdown :lmao
https://x.com/olalatech1/status/1885033978132127881
Winehole23
01-31-2025, 10:08 AM
DeepSeek got leapfrogged by another Chinese AI product
The model, the Qwen 2.5-Max, was released on the first day of the Chinese New Year. The company also open sourced its visual model, the Qwen 2.5-VL, on Tuesday. The company also provided cloud computing support (https://news.cgtn.com/news/2025-01-29/China-s-Spring-Festival-Gala-incorporates-cloud-computing-1AyUGAHIZsQ/p.html) to the live broadcast of the Spring Festival Gala, the country's annual variety show, viewed by billions, and blends music, dance, opera, martial arts, and comedy that same day.
"Qwen 2.5-Max outperforms ... almost across the board GPT-4o, DeepSeek-V3 and Llama-3.1-405B," Alibaba's cloud unit said in an announcement posted on its official WeChat account, referring to OpenAI and Meta's most advanced open-source AI models.
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2025/01/links-1-31-2025.html
hater
01-31-2025, 03:22 PM
LMFAO
https://x.com/SputnikInt/status/1885361790705426733
Winehole23
01-31-2025, 03:55 PM
having a leader who continually whines and melts down sets the tone
SnakeBoy
01-31-2025, 04:26 PM
https://media.stocktwits-cdn.com/api/3/media/1709951/default.png
ChumpDumper
01-31-2025, 05:09 PM
https://media.stocktwits-cdn.com/api/3/media/1709951/default.png
what is the significance of this, in your opinion?
hater
01-31-2025, 06:42 PM
:lmao
Fucking retards :lol
https://x.com/ElysiusThor/status/1885105023534981480
Winehole23
01-31-2025, 09:08 PM
what is the significance of this, in your opinion?Trump is playing 7D chess and plotting a deal with China
Trump has entered the nest-feathering phase of public service
Thread
01-31-2025, 09:59 PM
Trump is playing 7D chess and plotting a deal with China
Trump has entered the nest-feathering phase of public service
Before he does that Trump should abandon the deal with Ukraine and stop giving free health-care/FULL RIDE to millions of Nazi's in Ukraine.
Winehole23
02-02-2025, 01:57 PM
If semi-analysis is correct, the hyped training cost was too low by a lot --
serious, concerted effort and are by no means a “side project” as many in the media claim. We are confident that their GPU investments account for more than $500M US dollars, even after considering export controlshttps://semianalysis.com/2025/01/31/deepseek-debates/
Winehole23
02-03-2025, 11:06 AM
buffaloed
industry analyst firm SemiAnalysis (https://semianalysis.com/2025/01/31/deepseek-debates/) reports that the company behind DeepSeek incurred $1.6 billion in hardware costs and has a fleet of 50,000 Nvidia Hopper GPUs, a finding that undermines the idea that DeepSeek reinvented AI training and inference with dramatically lower investments than the leaders of the AI industry.
DeepSeek operates an extensive computing infrastructure with approximately 50,000 Hopper GPUs, the report claims. This includes 10,000 H800s and 10,000 H100s, with additional purchases of H20 units, according to SemiAnalysis. These resources are distributed across multiple locations and serve purposes such as AI training, research, and financial modeling. The company's total capital investment in servers is around $1.6 billion, with an estimated $944 million spent on operating costs, according to SemiAnalysis.
ttps://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intelligence/deepseek-might-not-be-as-disruptive-as-claimed-firm-reportedly-has-50-000-nvidia-gpus-and-spent-usd1-6-billion-on-buildouts
SnakeBoy
02-03-2025, 06:13 PM
Word, 0.
A GD disgrace is what it is.
It is. He'll change his tune when Trump starts buying bitcoin. I'll probably forgive him, he's pretty funny.
hater
02-05-2025, 12:09 AM
:lmao 20 years in jail for downloading Open Source software :lmao :lmao :lmao
Time to move to free and prosperous China :lol
https://x.com/DanielDumbrill/status/1886945183088181330
What an epic meltdown :lmao
hater
02-07-2025, 09:39 AM
Yes. He is. :lmao
https://x.com/tsarnick/status/1887269391253053914
Winehole23
02-18-2025, 11:44 PM
https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:jg7zvku4khzmvyjwbzv4lnly/bafkreievu662wzij3l6aqp4tzytvq5hi3ypfowasj7rrpfgjf ikb6rrxjm@jpeghttps://www.platformer.news/too-many-ai-companies/
ChumpDumper
02-18-2025, 11:48 PM
I predict Grok will be considered good enough for government work.
SnakeBoy
03-31-2025, 03:18 PM
Bullish on Nvidia?
Give us your personal opinion.
I will be if it gets to the low $90's
Damn these bears still can't get it under $105, SAD! Maybe Liberation Day will give them the boost they need.
Winehole23
03-31-2025, 03:35 PM
Damn these bears still can't get it under $105, SAD! Maybe Liberation Day will give them the boost they need.btw, what's being liberated tomorrow?
SnakeBoy
03-31-2025, 03:40 PM
btw, what's being liberated tomorrow?
The USA
Winehole23
03-31-2025, 03:43 PM
The USAfrom the USA?
SnakeBoy
03-31-2025, 03:45 PM
from free trade silly
ChumpDumper
03-31-2025, 03:47 PM
btw, what's being liberated tomorrow?
Meta and Microsoft have already liberated themselves from several data center leases. It looks like companies like CoreWeave are trying to exist as GPU power providers for the actual AI companies. Folks don't seem so bullish on that so far; we'll have to see if it's because CW is a shit company or if it's the first domino.
Winehole23
03-31-2025, 03:56 PM
from free trade sillywhat will free trade be replaced with?
Winehole23
03-31-2025, 03:59 PM
I predict Grok will be considered good enough for government work.it already has been, I think
who is executing Trumplandia's whole of government, brute force censorship of dirty words? how is DOGE identifying contracts and leases to cancel?
ChumpDumper
03-31-2025, 04:00 PM
it already has been, I think
who is executing Trumplandia's whole of government, brute force censorship of dirty words? how is DOGE identifying contracts and leases to cancel?
They just are. You don't need to know. State secret or something.
baseline bum
03-31-2025, 05:16 PM
Damn these bears still can't get it under $105, SAD! Maybe Liberation Day will give them the boost they need.
Would have been great 45 years ago before our manufacturing sector got hollowed out by St Ronnie, Bush, and Clinton. Now it's closing the barn door when the horse is three towns over. Anyone with a room temperature IQ can see this is just Trump pushing what is effectively a really high sales tax to shift the tax burden further on to the people and then lower taxes on the robber barons.
Winehole23
03-31-2025, 06:06 PM
Would have been great 45 years ago before our manufacturing sector got hollowed out by St Ronnie, Bush, and Clinton. Now it's closing the barn door when the horse is three towns over. Anyone with a room temperature IQ can see this is just Trump pushing what is effectively a really high sales tax to shift the tax burden further on to the people and then lower taxes on the robber barons.gets pre-baked into the prices
Thread
03-31-2025, 07:28 PM
Would have been great 45 years ago before our manufacturing sector got hollowed out by St Ronnie, Bush, and Clinton. Now it's closing the barn door when the horse is three towns over.
Amen.
Winehole23
03-31-2025, 07:33 PM
They just are. You don't need to know. State secret or something.what happens to all the PI DOGE hoovered up?
do they really need access to the federal payroll database too?
isn't it enough that DOGE already hacked the US Treasury system of payment and is about to hack Social Security?
baseline bum
03-31-2025, 11:29 PM
Amen.
Then why the fuck are you supporting these tariffs that are basically a 25% sales tax? Are you fucking retarded?
Thread
04-01-2025, 12:32 AM
Then why the fuck are you supporting these tariffs that are basically a 25% sales tax? Are you fucking retarded?
Because your statement is a carbon copy of my statement about that subject. We let the auto industry go back in the '70's. Our morning after regret a half century later is folly.
The old man genuinely believes he can grab jacks & timbers and start back down. He also believed that in '17 on the New York to Boston [train track trail of tears] and found out that it was impossible after all.
I don't blame him for trying though. (It) emantes from his heart.
baseline bum
04-01-2025, 01:16 AM
Because your statement is a carbon copy of my statement about that subject. We let the auto industry go back in the '70's. Our morning after regret a half century later is folly.
The old man genuinely believes he can grab jacks & timbers and start back down. He also believed that in '17 on the New York to Boston [train track trail of tears] and found out that it was impossible after all.
I don't blame him for trying though. (It) emantes from his heart.
No he doesn't, it's the Fair Tax from the Bush days being sold to rubes like you as a trade war
Thread
04-01-2025, 08:48 AM
No he doesn't, it's the Fair Tax from the Bush days being sold to rubes like you as a trade war
You saying that don't make it so, bum.
baseline bum
04-01-2025, 09:16 AM
You saying that don't make it so, bum.
So you think he's not crooked, you think he's just stupid but are willing to follow him off a cliff anyways.
Thread
04-01-2025, 08:25 PM
So you think he's not crooked, you think he's just stupid but are willing to follow him off a cliff anyways.
I hate when you're mean like this, bum. Very deflating.
SnakeBoy
04-01-2025, 08:37 PM
He's taking his frustration out on you instead his own shitty party. It's what shitlibs do.
koriwhat
04-01-2025, 08:41 PM
Would have been great 45 years ago before our manufacturing sector got hollowed out by St Ronnie, Bush, and Clinton. Now it's closing the barn door when the horse is three towns over. Anyone with a room temperature IQ can see this is just Trump pushing what is effectively a really high sales tax to shift the tax burden further on to the people and then lower taxes on the robber barons.
USAID, MC, and SS robber barons say "hold my icecream!"
baseline bum
04-01-2025, 08:57 PM
USAID, MC, and SS robber barons say "hold my icecream!"
Another cuck happy to pay way more in taxes to lower the taxes of billionaires
baseline bum
04-01-2025, 09:00 PM
I hate when you're mean like this, bum. Very deflating.
Trump's taking money out of your pockets and you're cheering it.
Thread
04-01-2025, 10:30 PM
Trump's taking money out of your pockets and you're cheering it.
He hasn't taken a dime out my pocket yet. When he does I'll be the first to report and acknowledge it.
I take the good & I take the bad.
baseline bum
04-01-2025, 11:15 PM
He hasn't taken a dime out my pocket yet. When he does I'll be the first to report and acknowledge it.
I take the good & I take the bad.
I guess you don't buy shit nor eat?
Thread
04-02-2025, 03:44 AM
I guess you don't buy shit nor eat?
Gas prices here in the Phoenix area have gone down the last 2 months.
And grocery prices have moderated as well. Not much, but at least they ain't gone up.
koriwhat
04-02-2025, 05:55 PM
Another cuck happy to pay way more in taxes to lower the taxes of billionaires
Bro with as many games as you play, as a middle aged or more male, you're most likely the cuckold here. Stay in your lane!
baseline bum
04-02-2025, 08:19 PM
Bro with as many games as you play, as a middle aged or more male, you're most likely the cuckold here. Stay in your lane!
Simping for a guy who is raising your taxes to hell is retarded, but expected from Angry Joey who is all feels.
koriwhat
04-02-2025, 08:33 PM
Simping for a guy who is raising your taxes to hell is retarded, but expected from Angry Joey who is all feels.
Assumptions are all you got besides your little video games. Cope and seethe harder Bum! :tu
baseline bum
04-02-2025, 08:44 PM
Assumptions are all you got besides your little video games. Cope and seethe harder Bum! :tu
So you're a multi-millionaire? Because otherwise you're gonna get fucked by Trump's tax increases.
koriwhat
04-02-2025, 08:47 PM
So you're a multi-millionaire? Because otherwise you're gonna get fucked by Trump's tax increases.
We've all been fucked for decades and now you're worried about being fucked? BTW, before I listen to dribble from faux intellectuals on ST about taxes, I'd rather listen to a whole yr of Thomas Sowell so I can actually learn real world shit and not the delusions of leftist retards. :tu
baseline bum
04-02-2025, 09:00 PM
We've all been fucked for decades and now you're worried about being fucked? BTW, before I listen to dribble from faux intellectuals on ST about taxes, I'd rather listen to a whole yr of Thomas Sowell so I can actually learn real world shit and not the delusions of leftist retards. :tu
Consumer goods are the one thing that was actually cheap in the US after massive inflation in healthcare and educational costs starting under Bush, massive inflation in home prices starting under Trump, and massive inflation in food costs starting under Biden. And now most of those those are going up 25%. You're not rich, you shouldn't be cheering this shit. Trump's bragging about the revenues this is going to bring in which is hilarious since the right has been screaming about taxes for decades, but clearly all they really ever gave a shit about was cutting taxes on millionaires and billionaires. America first my ass, Trump is shifting the tax burden onto regular people so he can give himself and his billionaire cronies huge tax cuts on our backs.
koriwhat
04-02-2025, 09:02 PM
Consumer goods are the one thing that was actually cheap in the US after massive inflation in healthcare and educational costs starting under Bush, massive inflation in home prices starting under Trump, and massive inflation in food costs starting under Biden. And now most of those those are going up 25%. You're not rich, you shouldn't be cheering this shit. Trump's bragging about the revenues this is going to bring in which is hilarious since the right has been screaming about taxes for decades, but clearly all they really ever gave a shit about was cutting taxes on millionaires and billionaires. America first my ass, Trump is shifting the tax burden onto regular people so he can give himself and his billionaire cronies huge tax cuts on our backs.
Whatever you say rube.
koriwhat
04-02-2025, 09:04 PM
Bum, you do understand I don't give a damn about what you leftists have to say even if you're pretending to "educate" me.
I really don't give a fuck about what leftists have to say. :tu
baseline bum
04-02-2025, 09:06 PM
Bum, you do understand I don't give a damn about what you leftists have to say even if you're pretending to "educate" me.
I really don't give a fuck about what leftists have to say. :tu
I know, Trump loves the poorly educated. Don't even know what you're voting for other than anger.
SnakeBoy
04-02-2025, 09:07 PM
Consumer goods are the one thing that was actually cheap in the US after massive inflation in healthcare and educational costs starting under Bush, massive inflation in home prices starting under Trump, and massive inflation in food costs starting under Biden. And now most of those those are going up 25%. You're not rich, you shouldn't be cheering this shit. Trump's bragging about the revenues this is going to bring in which is hilarious since the right has been screaming about taxes for decades, but clearly all they really ever gave a shit about was cutting taxes on millionaires and billionaires. America first my ass, Trump is shifting the tax burden onto regular people so he can give himself and his billionaire cronies huge tax cuts on our backs.
And Dems have been screaming to raise taxes the whole time
You should be happy
koriwhat
04-02-2025, 09:09 PM
I know, Trump loves the poorly educated. Don't even know what you're voting for other than anger.
You have no clue. You want to talk about poorly educated while you're playing your little video games I actually build shit with my hands, work with computers be it servers or vms in environments like proxmox and esxi, design functional parts in cad, read a bunch but only technical shit, and more.
Stay in your lane and keep pretending men can be women and cuntmala was our last hope.
koriwhat
04-02-2025, 09:11 PM
I'm tired of you smug pussified leftists and anything yall have to say. America agrees with me!
baseline bum
04-02-2025, 09:11 PM
And Dems have been screaming to raise taxes the whole time
You should be happy
Meh the Democrats raise the taxes a few points on millionaires who don't get their income from capital gains every ~10 years. Trump is raising taxes on bare minimum the bottom 95% to fund tax cuts for himself.
baseline bum
04-02-2025, 09:16 PM
You have no clue. You want to talk about poorly educated while you're playing your little video games I actually build shit with my hands, work with computers be it servers or vms in environments like proxmox and esxi, design functional parts in cad, read a bunch but only technical shit, and more.
Stay in your lane and keep pretending men can be women and cuntmala was our last hope.
I never pretended Kamala was anything but a loser and knew the country was hosed the second the crooked Democrats forced her into the nomination.
koriwhat
04-02-2025, 09:19 PM
I never pretended Kamala was anything but a loser and knew the country was hosed the second the crooked Democrats forced her into the nomination.
Thier version of mUh DeMoCrAcY, amirite? :lmao
SnakeBoy
04-02-2025, 09:19 PM
I never pretended Kamala was anything but a loser and knew the country was hosed the second the crooked Democrats forced her into the nomination.
You're the only one
Props
koriwhat
04-02-2025, 09:21 PM
You're the only one
Props
Yeah but who did Bum end up voting for then? :lol
SnakeBoy
04-02-2025, 09:25 PM
Yeah but who did Bum end up voting for then? :lol
He fell in line of course, they always do.
baseline bum
04-02-2025, 09:27 PM
He fell in line of course, they always do.
Yeah let's vote for Hitler instead. Doesn't matter now anyways since the Democrats are dead in the water and there will never be another actual national election in this iteration of America again.
baseline bum
04-02-2025, 09:28 PM
You're the only one
Props
Also ChumpDumper was pretty clear Harris would lose too
koriwhat
04-02-2025, 09:29 PM
Yeah let's vote for Hitler instead. Doesn't matter now anyways since the Democrats are dead in the water and there will never be another actual national election in this iteration of America again.
You have 0 integrity and your convictions are mere smoke and mirrors.
All you leftists fucking suck and aren't to be listened to, rube. :tu
baseline bum
04-02-2025, 09:30 PM
You have 0 integrity and your convictions are mere smoke and mirrors.
All you leftists fucking suck and aren't to be listened to, rube. :tu
Such integrity telling other people to shoot themselves
koriwhat
04-02-2025, 09:31 PM
Yall take Bum seriously? Unhinged is what some of yall call me but delusional and mentally ill is what you leftists truly are.
"He's literally Hitler!" Stfu :lmao
koriwhat
04-02-2025, 09:31 PM
Such integrity telling other people to shoot themselves
It would be a better world if some of yall would do us the honor. I see what you leftists celebrate and I'd rather you all just disappear. :tu
Thread
04-02-2025, 09:36 PM
Yeah let's vote for Hitler instead. Doesn't matter now anyways since the Democrats are dead in the water and there will never be another actual national election in this iteration of America again.
Ya damn sorehead, you.
koriwhat
04-02-2025, 09:36 PM
Also ChumpDumper was pretty clear Harris would lose too
That dude is a huge pussy with a huge pussy. He def was a "white "man" for cuntmala". :lmao
Thread
04-02-2025, 09:37 PM
Yall take Bum seriously? Unhinged is what some of yall call me but delusional and mentally ill is what you leftists truly are.
"He's literally Hitler!" Stfu :lmao
Amen.
koriwhat
04-02-2025, 09:37 PM
[QUOTE=Thread;11225685]Ya damn
koriwhat
04-02-2025, 09:38 PM
Whoopsie wrong meme. Lmao
SnakeBoy
04-02-2025, 09:39 PM
Also ChumpDumper was pretty clear Harris would lose too
He sure sung her praises tho
You never did. I give you credit for that.
koriwhat
04-02-2025, 09:40 PM
Ya damn sorehead, you.
https://media.tenor.com/sAa71_Av_XMAAAAM/method-man-redman.gif
koriwhat
04-02-2025, 09:42 PM
He sure sung her praises tho
You never did. I give you credit for that.
No leftist deserves any kind of credit, especially one who has 0 integrity to speak of and no real convictions to stand by.
It was either cuntmala for Bum or that socialist tranny "libertarian". He chose the brat. :lol
SnakeBoy
04-02-2025, 09:42 PM
Yeah let's vote for Hitler instead. Doesn't matter now anyways since the Democrats are dead in the water and there will never be another actual national election in this iteration of America again.
Don't be dramatic
Dems will run on muh free trade capitalism & muh national security in '28. They might win.
baseline bum
04-02-2025, 09:43 PM
He sure sung her praises tho
You never did. I give you credit for that.
I did say she'd be less shitty than Trump but it's a low bar. Her campaign was moronic, same 2016 Clinton campaign of he's a pig and a danger, look Liz Cheney likes me, for every working class voter we lose we gain two Republican voters in the suburbs, etc which isn't a surprise since Harris hired the same dipshits who advised Clinton's campaign. Instead of running on the single good thing Biden did in his term: namely, the $2000 yearly out of pocket cap on prescription drugs in Medicare Part D.
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04-02-2025, 09:45 PM
Don't be dramatic
Dems will run on muh free trade capitalism & muh national security in '28. They might win.
The bitter truth. We must appreciate and enjoy the next 4 years because we're gonna be buried deep thereafter.
OMG!!!
koriwhat
04-02-2025, 09:46 PM
I did say she'd be less shitty than Trump but it's a low bar. Her campaign was moronic, same 2016 Clinton campaign of he's a pig and a danger, look Liz Cheney likes me, which isn't a surprise since Harris hired the same dipshits who advised Clinton's campaign. Instead of running on the single good thing Biden did in his term: namely, the $2000 yearly out of pocket cap on prescription drugs in Medicare Part D.
What's that say about you leftists if you still voted for that bitch and euro-trash wannabe socialist/commie "party"?
Says a lot tbh. Says yall are paper thin and not serious is the least. You talk a big talk but you stand for nothing.
baseline bum
04-02-2025, 09:47 PM
The bitter truth. We must appreciate and enjoy the next 4 years because we're gonna be buried deep thereafter.
OMG!!!
Nonsense. Unless the nation is overthrown between now and then Trump will begin his third term in January 2029 unless he's dead, in which case Uday is probably king.
koriwhat
04-02-2025, 09:48 PM
You're in a cult Bum. Just keep shining them boots with that tongue of yours bro. :tu
baseline bum
04-02-2025, 09:48 PM
What's that say about you leftists if you still voted for that bitch and euro-trash wannabe socialist/commie "party"?
Says a lot tbh. Says yall are paper thin and not serious is the least. You talk a big talk but you stand for nothing.
ROFL what a retard thinking liberals are socialists.
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04-02-2025, 09:52 PM
ROFL what a retard thinking liberals are socialists.
You are, bum. kori is right on.
koriwhat
04-02-2025, 09:54 PM
ROFL what a retard thinking liberals are socialists.
You're no liberal. Liberals don't exist today dipshit. Watch some history docu's and learn where you are on the political spectrum because you're most def not a liberal.
You are a useful idiot though and when your dystopia is reality, you'll be the first on your knees facing the wall.
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04-02-2025, 09:54 PM
Nonsense. Unless the nation is overthrown between now and then Trump will begin his third term in January 2029 unless he's dead, in which case Uday is probably king.
He's not serious about the 3rd term. He's just tormenting ya's...on a wide spectrum of issues and points.
koriwhat
04-02-2025, 09:56 PM
He's not serious about the 3rd term. He's just tormenting ya's...on a wide spectrum of issues and points.
They're dense and deluded.
baseline bum
04-02-2025, 09:59 PM
You're no liberal. Liberals don't exist today dipshit. Watch some history docu's and learn where you are on the political spectrum because you're most def not a liberal.
You are a useful idiot though and when your dystopia is reality, you'll be the first on your knees facing the wall.
And you wonder why people call you nazis
SnakeBoy
04-02-2025, 10:00 PM
You're no liberal. Liberals don't exist today dipshit. Watch some history docu's and learn where you are on the political spectrum because you're most def not a liberal.
You are a useful idiot though and when your dystopia is reality, you'll be the first on your knees facing the wall.
What few liberals remain voted for Trump
baseline bum
04-02-2025, 10:00 PM
He's not serious about the 3rd term. He's just tormenting ya's...on a wide spectrum of issues and points.
There's nothing stopping him. He is 100% above the law. I'm very sick of hearing Trump voters say not to take his threats seriously when he follows through with them.
koriwhat
04-02-2025, 10:01 PM
And you wonder why people call you nazis
You wouldn't had called my Jewish grandfather, who came here, signed up for the mil, and went back to fight actual nazis, a nazi would you?
Go fuck yourself you spineless hack!
SnakeBoy
04-02-2025, 10:02 PM
There's nothing stopping him. He is 100% above the law. I'm very sick of hearing Trump voters say not to take his threats seriously when he follows through with them.
They aren't threats, they're campaign promises
Promises Made
Promises Kept
The will of the peoples
koriwhat
04-02-2025, 10:04 PM
Plus I don't wonder why you leftists call sane people asinine names. You're mentally ill in a cult you'll still cast a vote for a cunt who side stepped democracy. 0 fucking integrity to speak of and no convictions you're willing to stand by, Bum. :tu
baseline bum
04-02-2025, 10:04 PM
You wouldn't had called my Jewish grandfather, who came here, signed up for the mil, and went back to fight actual nazis, a nazi would you?
Go fuck yourself you spineless hack!
Nope, I wouldn't call him one, nazi.
SnakeBoy
04-02-2025, 10:05 PM
It's what commies do, they can't help themselves
koriwhat
04-02-2025, 10:06 PM
Nope, I wouldn't call him one, nazi.
You also wouldn't say shit to my face either if we're being real rn. We both know that. Take me out of the equation, you're speaking the same shit to someone else on the internet and your bitchass still wouldn't say shitin that person's face. Yall are straight up cowards!
baseline bum
04-02-2025, 10:06 PM
Plus I don't wonder why you leftists call sane people asinine names. You're mentally ill in a cult you'll still cast a vote for a cunt who side stepped democracy. 0 fucking integrity to speak of and no convictions you're willing to stand by, Bum. :tu
You voted for a fascist who tried to steal the election when he lost and had his brownshirts storm the Capitol and try to stop the certification of the vote. Every accusation you make is a confession.
koriwhat
04-02-2025, 10:06 PM
It's what commies do, they can't help themselves
Indeed!
koriwhat
04-02-2025, 10:07 PM
You voted for a fascist who tried to steal the election when he lost and had his brownshirts storm the Capitol and try to stop the certification of the vote. Every accusation you make is a confession.
You're probably wearing a brown shirt rn. :lol
koriwhat
04-02-2025, 10:08 PM
None of those video games are helping you upstairs, Bum. You're losing it and fast!
baseline bum
04-02-2025, 10:08 PM
You also wouldn't say shit to my face either if we're being real rn. We both know that. Take me out of the equation, you're speaking the same shit to someone else on the internet and your bitchass still wouldn't say shitin that person's face. Yall are straight up cowards!
So you'd go tell Chump to shoot himself in person Mr Hardass?
koriwhat
04-02-2025, 10:09 PM
So you'd go tell Chump to shoot himself in person Mr Hardass?
Sure, why not? Fuck that loser!
koriwhat
04-02-2025, 10:16 PM
Bum, I don't agree with you politically but by no means are you a bad dude. :tu
baseline bum
04-02-2025, 10:25 PM
Bum, I don't agree with you politically but by no means are you a bad dude. :tu
Yeah don't sweat it man. Even if we're on completely opposite ends of the political spectrum still think your tattoo work is pretty cool.
koriwhat
04-02-2025, 10:28 PM
Yeah don't sweat it man. Even if we're on completely opposite ends of the political spectrum still think your tattoo work is pretty cool.
I really try to refrain the insults, even if it doesn't seem as so, but I mean no harm or ill will towards you. I appreciate the kind words as well buddy.
I just wish we were back in the 90's when everyone got along in this country.
You're good people, Bum, no matter what I say here to the contrary.
Winehole23
04-02-2025, 10:51 PM
not so sure everybody got along in the 1990s...
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04-03-2025, 12:43 AM
There's nothing stopping him. He is 100% above the law. I'm very sick of hearing Trump voters say not to take his threats seriously when he follows through with them.
You're overwrought like the Winester, bum.
That old man will do it to ya's.
I'm just glad I love him.
BadMotorscooter
04-03-2025, 01:18 AM
You're overwrought like the Winester, bum.
That old man will do it to ya's.
I'm just glad I love him.
So true and its what I love. I havent seen democrats this angry since yesterday and I can say that with every day that passes. Trump triggers them every single day. Every. Single. Day. I fucking love it. I cant get enough of it. I love watching democrats lose their shit and get violent and radical and uncivilized. I love watching them post relentlessly about Trump when all they had to do was close the border and pick a better candidate. Instead they waited til the election year to try a border plan and went with word salad/Brain dead kamala. They have no one to blame but themselves.
ChumpDumper
04-03-2025, 02:57 AM
You're the only one
Props
Yeah but who did Bum end up voting for then? :lol
Your Trump is worse.
He just put tariffs on a US military base.
Even fucking Kamala isn't that stupid.
:lol rubes
ChumpDumper
04-03-2025, 02:58 AM
I really try to refrain the insults:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin
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04-03-2025, 07:47 AM
So true and its what I love. I havent seen democrats this angry since yesterday and I can say that with every day that passes. Trump triggers them every single day. Every. Single. Day. I fucking love it. I cant get enough of it. I love watching democrats lose their shit and get violent and radical and uncivilized. I love watching them post relentlessly about Trump when all they had to do was close the border and pick a better candidate. Instead they waited til the election year to try a border plan and went with word salad/Brain dead kamala. They have no one to blame but themselves.
Precisely!!!
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