Lakers acquiring Luca for AD

[Chinook]

I mean my dude you're acting like everyone else is assuming shit when you're making the biggest assumptions of them all in the wildest manner of all. You're acting like your chosen pathway to support your narrative is somehow infallible.

No, I'm acting like it doesn't have a zero-percent success rate.


Sure Chinook, you diagnosed cancer while the rest of us all just watched the Mavs build a team that went to the finals and then blow it up 8 months later. You got it man.

Nah, I think you guys are having a tumor waved under your nose and are pretending you can't smell it.

But yes, I did firmly have this stance last year as well. Yes, all titles are legitimate, and if Dallas would've won, they would've had every right to hang that banner. But running the table against a young team like OKC and a shitty team like Minnesota (and an perpetually injured team like LAC) isn't exactly something that requires a legit contender. It's like how Rockets fans pat themselves on the back for almost winning a third game against the Warriors in 2019 while ignoring the West was basically decimated that year.

[tbdog]

In 2030 when spurs have a pick swap with mavs, AD will be 36 turning 37 that season. Kyrie will be 37 turning 38. They won't be good.

[Kawhi Duncan]

Keith Smith on the front office show saying Luka did not ask to be traded, the Mavericks did this on their own. Mavericks APPROACHED THE LAKERS with this.

One of the dumbest, most offsided trades in history... wtf are the Mavericks thinking?

I think Mavs are better...Lukas playstyle looks good for him, but not so good for others...his success had a ceiling and I'm not sure if he would have even made the finals again...sounds crazy, but watch...dude isn't coachable and only plsys one way

[Kawhi Duncan]

LeBron runs through stars more than a ho...that's y I don't have him top 5....imagine if Duncan ran to team up with kobe and Shaq, and KG and Iverson and every star under the sun...he would easily have 10 rings...LeBron constantly needs stars to help him instead of actually making his teammates great

[024]

To be fair, Davis does have real value. Folks are treating him like he's basically filler, but he'd be in the top 10-20 assets in the league. While I don't think the Lakers would've won a true bidding war, Davis and a first beats out a lot of other teams' best offers.

That said, Dallas has no path to a title with an Irving/Thompson/Davis core. They REALLY should be looking to sell off at this point.
Conspiracies aside, it sounds like the Mavs wanted to offload Luka and specifically targeted Davis for his fit with the team. And agree that AD is a top 15, maybe even top 10 player today. But what a unnecessary move to trade your entire future for an uncertain 2 year championship window that still would have been there with Luka. Mavs owners definitely didn't want to pay Luka.

[tbdog]

Conspiracies aside, it sounds like the Mavs wanted to offload Luka and specifically targeted Davis for his fit with the team. And agree that AD is a top 15, maybe even top 10 player today. But what a unnecessary move to trade your entire future for an uncertain 2 year championship window that still would have been there with Luka. Mavs owners definitely didn't want to pay Luka.

Honestly think twolves trade Edwards and Gobert for Luka and matching salary. Luka is such a weapon. The Mavs could have targeted anyone they wanted minus a few.

[lefty]

https://x.com/adryanashton/status/1885944969808011574

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Imagine being the Lakers. Dallas asks for Reaves to be included but you’re like nope, not him, you can have Christie :lmao
Also Utah taking on an unwanted Lakers salary and you be like hey Dallas we split the price - one second from each right? I can’t …

Obviously this a black swan situation and not a proof that everyone is available but I have to wonder what it’d take to get Maxey if Embiid is legit broken.

[Mal]

WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK

[daslicer]

Dallas punched through OKC with Gafford and Lively beating them up. OKC has trouble with Anthony Davis, a lot. But that was with Doncic.

I don't get what the Lakers do to build a team around Doncic. Word seems to be that LeBron didn't even know about this trade. Whether he did or not doesn't matter. It's a junk roster. LBJ and fat Doncic probably doesn't get you very far. They don't have many assets to use at this point.

But I guess you just collude your way into a supporting cast or something.

Lakers are punting on this season. They never had a chance to contend even with Lebron-AD this year. The Lakers are more invested in the long term with this trade. They wanted a young superstar to build their franchise around and a way to pivot away from Lebron. This situation works out great for the Lakers because now it's not likely Lebron will return to them next year knowing they can't contend with what they have. They finally get rid of Lebron while having a young superstar that can sell tickets as they rebuild their team. Plus, Lakers will luck out with some random disgruntled star player who will try to force a trade there in the next year or two. Once that happens, they will be set. Lakers don't build teams they steal talent.

[tbdog]

Lakers are punting on this season. They never had a chance to contend even with Lebron-AD this year. The Lakers are more invested in the long term with this trade. They wanted a young superstar to build their franchise around and a way to pivot away from Lebron. This situation works out great for the Lakers because now it's not likely Lebron will return to them next year knowing they can't contend with what they have. They finally get rid of Lebron while having a young superstar that can sell tickets as they rebuild their team. Plus, Lakers will luck out with some random disgruntled star player who will try to force a trade there in the next year or two. Once that happens, they will be set. Lakers don't build teams they steal talent.

Yeah no shit. The fact that got the third best trade chip in nba that has people rioting.

[lefty20]

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[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Seriously this trade is half baked. It should have included Gafford and Reaves instead of Kleber and Christie. It’s like they were told you have 30 seconds to complete a Doncic trade Go!

[Fireball]

Astonishing ... guess the Mavericks think Luka's body is not holding up ... trading for AD is funny in that regard though

[John B]

Tbh, if AD can remain healthy, the Mavs can contend this year with a core of Erving, Klay and AD! Sure in 2-3 years the Mavs will be in rebuild mode.

[rankingtear]

Cmon it so easy to build around fat Luka, your offense is pretty much set in the playoffs. Rim runners and stiff 3 and D are cheap and the small lead guard is available every transaction cycle and late 1st. This does not make sense. Not even shopping him or leaking to have leverage.

[SupremeGuy]

at this point, no wanting a dirty foreigner to be the face of your franchise because deep MAGA brain rot, is just as viable a reason for why this happened.WTF are you even talking about?

[LeBowen]

The most shocking trade ever, tbh.

As already said, unless Mavs know something we don't, they got fleeced.
You don't trade for a 6 years older player, even if you think Luka and AD are on same level ability wise.
If he doesn't have chronic health issues, this will go down as one of the worst trades in history.

And even if he does have health issues, they traded him for AD of all players.
If they don't win this or the next season, this trade is a failure, AD has 2 or 3 years left in him at the most.
I actually think they'll be a legit conteder this season if they figure things out right away.

As for the Lakers, we're never getting rid of the worst fanbase in sports, are we?

[spursparker9]

:lol Mavs only get 1 FRP for 25 years old Luka with 5 or 6 All NBA 1st team under his belt?

Did Luka fucked the wives of Mavs top management? Or he has degenerating "Brandon Roy" muscle issues?

If is about drinking beers and weight issues, this dude is still putting up near 30pts triple double. He is putting up Jokic number but at the PG position. :lol Mavs fucked up

How did Jazz get 4 FRP for Gobert and Nets get 5 FRP for Mikal Bridges?

[LeBowen]

:lol Mavs only get 1 FRP for 25 years old Luka with 5 or 6 All NBA 1st team under his belt?

Did Luka fucked the wives of Mavs top management?

How did Jazz get 4 FRP for Gobert and Nets get 5 FRP for Mikal Bridges?

Because AD is a top10 player in the league?

Also, another hillarious thing in all this is Danny Ainge yet again overplaying his hands.
Jazz own LAL '27 FRP, it just lost almost all of it's value.


Btw, didn't Nico Harrison fuck up negotiations with Steph while he was at Nike, resulting in Steph taking UA's offer?

[CGD]

What?!?

[objective]

A couple of people have remarked upon it but it's really the key to this trade being fishy.

There's no reason to do it 5 days before the deadline. Was the deal somehow going to get worse? Were the Lakers about to take JHS or Christie off the table? Going to walk away?

It's a scam insider trade like with Pau which also was well before the deadline. Like the Lakers were going to walk away and take Crittendon off the table.

The only reason to rush into a deal like this is to keep level headed people from killing it once they find out.

Nico must have a special relationship beyond basketball to cram it through like this.

[spursparker9]

Mavs GM will be the next Lakers GM after Pelinka leave :lol

[LeBowen]

The only reason to rush into a deal like this is to keep level headed people from killing it once they find out.

Cuban bought one of the worst franchises in the league, developed them into one of the more respected ones over 20 years and it took them just over a year to throw all that away after he sold the team.
No way this would've been allowed if he was in charge.

[Strategic]

Maybe mavs will let Lively go for a bag of chips now

[CGD]

Maybe mavs will let Lively go for a bag of chips now

No I think the whole point was that AD wanted to play with Centers.

[LeBowen]

Maybe mavs will let Lively go for a bag of chips now

They'll probably trade Gafford and run a 3 man PJ/AD/Lively rotation.

[Strategic]

I’m done with you folks telling me to get in shape. Not playing another minute here. Trade me to Lakers or else.

[RC_Drunkford]

does anybody here realize that the Mavs also had to give up a second round pick to get the deal done? :lol

[lefty20]

NBA really got the best drama.

Luka got all the motivation to have his Hollywood arc. Bro about to have a glow up with the sick revenge body to make the Mavs regret dumping him for liking beer.

[slick'81]

Luca probably told mavs to f off and lakers get rewarded

[Pauleta14]

Luca probably told mavs to f off and lakers get rewarded

It's been confirmed Luka didn't ask, it's Mavs who told him to fuck off

Everybody think they're stupid, when clearly they know something we don't.

My guess is they think he's on the Embiid path and don't wanna get trapped like Philly by paying the super max to a player rarely available

[slick'81]

It's been confirmed Luka didn't ask, it's Mavs who told him to fuck off

Everybody think they're stupid, when clearly they know something we don't.

My guess is they think he's on the Embiid path and don't wanna get trapped like Philly by paying the super max to a player rarely available


yea, theres gotta be something. The mavs cant be this incompetent

[spursparker9]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-q61ag1BWP0

Why is Mavs so rush in getting rid of Luka?

Considering that there was no leak at all implied that the trade was swiftly and it was reported that Mavs approach Lakers for AD.

If Mavs were patient and put up the offer to all 29 teams, they might be able to get at least 6 FRPs :lol

[Pero]

Most shocking trade since I've been following the NBA. Don't have much to add that hasn't already been said here. The trade was probably made just so the Morris twins would be back together. Maybe they manipulated it? Just kidding.

Basketballwise doesn't seem to make sense for either team. Probably both make more moves. The Mavs were built for Luka, not sure if switching him out for AD will work out, unless they at least make another trade for a playmaker (which they won't, if it was in fact solely a business decision). The Lakers have no real interior presence now but at least offensively Luka can make any frontcourt seem better. Defense will probably take a hit. Will be interesting to see how this all works out for both teams. Don't think either has a chance at a championship now (whereas healthy Mavs did).

[objective]

Nico couldn't be dumb enough to think of this on his own, he was following orders.

Who gave the orders? Silver? Rich Paul? Lebron? His former employer Nike?

Just awful

[Pauleta14]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-q61ag1BWP0

Why is Mavs so rush in getting rid of Luka?

Considering that there was no leak at all implied that the trade was swiftly and it was reported that Mavs approach Lakers for AD.

If Mavs were patient and put up the offer to all 29 teams, they might be able to get at least 6 FRPs :lol

I think the Lakers are desperate to find someone to fill up the stands once Lebron is gone and would rather take the risk of an "Embiid" situation with Luka who's a real star potential rather than... no one (AD has zero appeal)

I don't think there's any conspiracy theory, it's in front of our eyes, Luka despite all his talent is a pain in the ass of a Franchise player, he doesn't play defense, he's heliocentric, he stat pads and has poor work ethic leading to injuries.

THAT'S A LOT and I understand you don't wanna see the long term with all those issues

[LeBowen]

I think the Lakers are desperate to find someone to fill up the stands once Lebron is gone and would rather take the risk of an "Embiid" situation with Luka who's a real star potential rather than... no one (AD has zero appeal)

I don't think there's any conspiracy theory, it's in front of our eyes, Luka despite all his talent is a pain in the ass of a Franchise player, he doesn't play defense, he's heliocentric, he stat pads and has poor work ethic leading to injuries.

THAT'S A LOT and I understand you don't wanna see the long term with all those issues

There are legitimate issues with Luka, but unless there's a chronic health issue we don't know about, this is as close as it gets to collusion.
Lakers have all of their picks after '27 that goes to the Jazz, Mavs getting just '29 pick that's going to be in the middle of Luka's prime is a joke.
If we go with Harrison's Luka for AD idea, they had to least 2 FRPs and 2 swaps in this trade.

Mavs don't own a single pick after '26, Kyrie will be 33 in March and AD will be 32.
It's literally a dead franchise after '26, we just have to see if they'll do anything in these two playoff runs.
Which legit player is going to want to go there when they traded the second best player in franchise history like this?

[Pauleta14]

https://x.com/LegionHoops/status/1885996036222816503

Maybe they called the Spurs for Wemby :lol

[LeBowen]

Maybe they called the Spurs for Wemby :lol

Wright saw sad Keldon with his cowboy hat in that press conference and said we like what we have. :lmao

[cutewizard]

Golden State probably said no for Curry, lol

[cutewizard]

Gentlemen, we are distracted from our original pursuit, which is the preparation of the red carpet for the arrival of the Foxxxxxx

lhahahaha

lets leave the fakers to their games, they wont win the NBA title with Mr. Harkonnen, lol

[Pauleta14]

There are legitimate issues with Luka, but unless there's a chronic health issue we don't know about, this is as close as it gets to collusion.
Lakers have all of their picks after '27 that goes to the Jazz, Mavs getting just '29 pick that's going to be in the middle of Luka's prime is a joke.
If we go with Harrison's Luka for AD idea, they had to least 2 FRPs and 2 swaps in this trade.

Mavs don't own a single pick after '26, Kyrie will be 33 in March and AD will be 32.
It's literally a dead franchise after '26, we just have to see if they'll do anything in these two playoff runs.
Which legit player is going to want to go there when they traded the second best player in franchise history like this?

I could be wrong, but before going into conspiracy theories I always try to look at the big picture in the simplest way, we often miss the elephant in the room...

1st, Calves injuries are tricky and often chronic.

One of my fav football player (Javier Pastore) had calf issues and it was the beginning of the end of him. Never was the same

I think it's not just the calves/current injury but the trend added to basic logic, they probably tried for months or years to convince him to take care of his body, change his diet etc and saw the situation worsen.

If at some point you see no modifications (apparently his current weight is ridiculous), as an owner you just calculate probabilities and they're understandingly not very optimistic.

It's not hard to imagine the relations have deteriorated bc of it as well, so why envision the next decade with a Franchise guy with whom u have bad relations? Better get the best from him now...

Now as far as what Mavs got from the Lakers, I'm not sure yet, I got to think about it, bc I don't see who could have offer more/better all while being able to pay Luka his extension next summer.

[Pauleta14]

Wright saw sad Keldon with his cowboy hat in that press conference and said we like what we have. :lmao

:lol

Seriously tho, the fact that Mavs had a refusal is telling, it's not that easy to get any interest and offers for luka right now.

Most teams are in rebuild mode and have built their core and the others and waiting for the next couple drafts and won't get rid of their picks

Suns can't do shit.... what other team could have had any interest AND able to make an offer to Dallas?

[Mal]

Why always the fucking Lakers ? Dallas could call Pat Riley and get Bam Adebayo + Jovic + multi 1st. They could call Rockets and get everybody the like. Boston would trade Jalen Brown easily.

[LeBowen]

I could be wrong, but before going into conspiracy theories I always try to look at the big picture in the simplest way, we often miss the elephant in the room...

1st, Calves injuries are tricky and often chronic.

One of my fav football player (Javier Pastore) had calf issues and it was the beginning of the end of him. Never was the same

I think it's not just the calves/current injury but the trend added to basic logic, they probably tried for months or years to convince him to take care of his body, change his diet etc and saw the situation worsen.

If at some point you see no modifications (apparently his current weight is ridiculous), as an owner you just calculate probabilities and they're understandingly not very optimistic.

It's not hard to imagine the relations have deteriorated bc of it as well, so why envision the next decade with a Franchise guy with whom u have bad relations? Better get the best from him now...

Now as far as what Mavs got from the Lakers, I'm not sure yet, I got to think about it, bc I don't see who could have offer more/better all while being able to pay Luka his extension next summer.

Your injury concerns are valid, I was more going along the lines of low return they got for Luka.
They could've surely had a way better haul.

Also, since Mavs are morons, Wright should make a call about PJ Washington. He'd be a perfect PF for us.

[RC_Drunkford]

well I guess we'll have some competition in the 2026 offseason. I can already see the Fakers sign 2 All-Stars in free agency to join Luka...

[ace3g]

https://x.com/TheSteinLine/status/1886024534270394613

[RC_Drunkford]

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[CGD]

How the hell do they not shop him at least? I’m sure they get a MUCH better return for him, including from a team like the spurs.

Also, fuck the Lakers. This is Pau Gasol 2.0.

[onechance87]

wont be suprised if lakers trade knect or reeves for a legit center.Maybe kessler or poeltl or something.

[Obstructed_View]

wont be suprised if lakers trade knect or reeves for a legit center.Maybe kessler or poeltl or something.
At this point I wouldn't be surprised if someone with a legit center calls the Lakers and offers him for a second rounder.

[LeBowen]

Going through Mavs subreddit I found this:


There is absolutely no way this isn't some kind of insider/backdoor deal by Nico.


8 months ago there was an article (https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/40387379/agent-says-limited-nba-draft-workouts-bronny-james-design) that stated "Nico Harrison is like an uncle to Bronny".
Nico was also a former executive at Nike (https://www.mavs.com/nicoharrison-2/).
New owner Miriam Adelson also owns the Las Vegas Sands, which owns the Venetian and a bunch of other hotels in Vegas. Guess who wants an ownership stake in a Las Vegas NBA team? Lebron.

[lefty20]

The rejected trade offer must've been for Giannis.

Considering that Nico was after a win-now elite 2 way big, no other player makes sense.

[Bill_Brasky]

This really sucks for Devin Booker, will he have to change schools or will he be allowed to finish the year with his friends?

[Pauleta14]

Your injury concerns are valid, I was more going along the lines of low return they got for Luka.
They could've surely had a way better haul.

Also, since Mavs are morons, Wright should make a call about PJ Washington. He'd be a perfect PF for us.

What team do you think could've been interested AND able to keep Luka long term? (you can't trade for him for just him not to extend)

I just can't see

[mo7888]

wont be suprised if lakers trade knect or reeves for a legit center.Maybe kessler or poeltl or something.

They need a center that can shoot from 3. Olynk might be a target. Any way we could pawn off Zach to them? Lol

[tbdog]

What team do you think could've been interested AND able to keep Luka long term? (you can't trade for him for just him not to extend)

I just can't see

Well we won't know how many teams would load up because the mavs did a quiet deal with the Lakers. Like the mavs didn't even tell Luka's agent. I'd say that every team would have made an offer.

[LeBowen]

What team do you think could've been interested AND able to keep Luka long term? (you can't trade for him for just him not to extend)

I just can't see

Miami could've offered them Bam, Herro, Jovic, JJJ and picks.
Rockets could've offered Amen, Green and picks.
Most teams in the league would offer a lot, I'm sure Luka wouldn't mind staying in Miami.


They need a center that can shoot from 3. Olynk might be a target. Any way we could pawn off Zach to them? Lol

They'll probably try to get Turner this summer.

[mo7888]

Miami could've offered them Bam, Herro, Jovic, JJJ and picks.
Rockets could've offered Amen, Green and picks.
Most teams in the league would offer a lot, I'm sure Luka wouldn't mind staying in Miami.



They'll probably try to get Turner this summer.

That would make sense. I don't know what their cap situation looks like though.

[RC_Drunkford]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GiwsvTIaoAAK63T?format=jpg&name=900x900

[Degoat]

Hopefully Klutch sports was focusing on this trade and can turn their attention back to get Fox to the Spurs lol

[mo7888]

You really have to wonder what lebron thinks of this and if he'll be moved by Friday. If LA is looking to the future then getting a good return might appeal to them, on the other hand lebron might be upset and ask for a trade. This is a crazy time we're living in..

[Davidicus]

LA has MORE food for Luka, not just healthy food. I don’t know Laker org culture that well, but nothing I’ve heard over the years indicates that they have the people or culture to turn Luka into Jaylen Brown. Dude could eat dumplings for decades.

Neither DAL or LA rosters make sense right now. DAL with 3 centers, LA with none (lol Gafford didn’t get included). Do we go after Gafford?

Lebron is a big question too. Does LA trade him now?? (Not to us)

I could maybe see how DAL GM wanted to keep things quiet and fast in case Luka heard about it and started demanding destinations. But regardless, what a fucking trade.

[Bill_Brasky]

Hard to believe the other teams in the NBA won't want this looked into.

[Davidicus]

Also lol DAL thinking Irving AD and Thompson in a wheelchair is going to compete with OKC HOU MEM in the back half of all 3 of those “centerpiece” players careers.

[LeBowen]

You really have to wonder what lebron thinks of this and if he'll be moved by Friday. If LA is looking to the future then getting a good return might appeal to them, on the other hand lebron might be upset and ask for a trade. This is a crazy time we're living in..

Lebron has a NTC, there are very few destinations he'd accept.
I'd say GSW and Miami make sense.

Wiggins+Kuminga+$14M more salary filler to the Lakers.
Then either straight up trade with GSW or 3-team trade with Lebron going to Miami and Jimmy going to GSW.

[Pauleta14]

Well we won't know how many teams would load up because the mavs did a quiet deal with the Lakers. Like the mavs didn't even tell Luka's agent. I'd say that every team would have made an offer.

I know what happened, I'm asking who do u guys think could've been interested AND able other than the Lakers?

I ca see only disadvantages to test the market, as everyone suggest, with all the noise and pressure from the fans.

Listening to KOC, he thinks it could be Luka and Lebron who are behind all of it and forced Mavs's hand. Hum...

[mo7888]

Lebron has a NTC, there are very few destinations he'd accept.
I'd say GSW and Miami make sense.

Wiggins+Kuminga+$14M more salary filler to the Lakers.
Then either straight up trade with GSW or 3-team trade with Lebron going to Miami and Jimmy going to GSW.

If I'm GS, I'm dropping the Butler stuff and going after Lebron... if I'm Mami I'm offering Butler + picks to LA for Lebron. If I'm LA, I'm taking the GS deal you mentioned.

[Pauleta14]

Miami could've offered them Bam, Herro, Jovic, JJJ and picks.
Rockets could've offered Amen, Green and picks.
Most teams in the league would offer a lot, I'm sure Luka wouldn't mind staying in Miami.



Miami and Houston have 2 defensive minded coaches who would lose it if they had to coach Luka. Just can't see either wanting him.

I don't see "plenty of teams" bro, I don't see any that would also attract Luka, condition for him to extend in the near future with his new team and make the present trade possible.

Mavs wouldn't get the equivalent of AD that allows them to remain competitive and teams with attractive draft picks would rather keep them than paying a fortune a dude who could leave for nothing in a year.

[Pauleta14]

LA has MORE food for Luka, not just healthy food. I don’t know Laker org culture that well, but nothing I’ve heard over the years indicates that they have the people or culture to turn Luka into Jaylen Brown. Dude could eat dumplings for decades.

Neither DAL or LA rosters make sense right now. DAL with 3 centers, LA with none (lol Gafford didn’t get included). Do we go after Gafford?

Lebron is a big question too. Does LA trade him now?? (Not to us)

I could maybe see how DAL GM wanted to keep things quiet and fast in case Luka heard about it and started demanding destinations. But regardless, what a fucking trade.

I think they let Lebron leave this summer and get a lot of cap space to start a new era centered aroung Luka.

Unless Lebron takes a friendly deal to mentor and keep stat paddng a little more. tHEY CAN'T BUILD ANYTHING IF lEBRON TAKES +50M again

[spursparker9]

https://x.com/LegionHoops/status/1885996036222816503

Maybe they called the Spurs for Wemby :lol

Yes. Highly likely Mavs GM called Spurs for Wemby. Especially since he was quoted saying Defense win championship and he wanted a high level defensive center. Wemby being the frontrunner for DPOY fit that.

Logically, the only players (consider superstar status and age-wise) that you will say NO for Luka are only Jokic, SGA, Wemby, Giannas,

Any other players that Mavs is asking you for Luka, You will say yes in a heartbeat.

[Maddog]

This is really interesting
Lakers have no picks, Dallas has aging players
Itll be interesting who's doing better in 5 years

[SupremeGuy]

Going through Mavs subreddit I found this:It's clearly to every-fucking-one that this is some bullshit. Wouldn't Mavs ownership have to agree to this shit too? Has anything even been finalized? Silver looks like trash if he doesn't at least pretend to investigate this shit.

[SupremeGuy]

At this point, I could see Embiid getting traded to the Lakers for Bronny.

[Mal]

At this point, I could see Embiid getting traded to the Lakers for Bronny.

Oh yeah, Embiid in wheelchair, Luka with questionable health and attitude and 40 yrs old LeBron, and thats you cap space gone

[John B]

https://x.com/LegionHoops/status/1885996036222816503

Maybe they called the Spurs for Wemby :lol

I can only think of Giannis.

[Donald Sterling.]

Calling it now, Lebron retires in a few years just as Wembanyama's entering his prime and Wemby joins Luka on the Lakers.

Translation, spurms better get their act together or it's bye bye Wemby :lol

[thiste]

Lakers we can offer you Zach Collins!

[Ice009]

Calling it now, Lebron retires in a few years just as Wembanyama's entering his prime and Wemby joins Luka on the Lakers.

Translation, spurms better get their act together or it's bye bye Wemby :lol

I actually never thought of that. Could be a drawcard for Victor to leave if the Spurs don't do right by him and get a good team around him by then, LA now seems like an enticing destination.

[spursparker9]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lYIfiyM_oE

34min 10sec:

Bill Simmons saying if he runs SA, if Mavs offered Luka, he would give everyone on the team except Wemby. Castle, Vassell, anyone else that Mavs want and 7 FRP

[CGD]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lYIfiyM_oE

34min 10sec:

Bill Simmons saying if he runs SA, if Mavs offered Luka, he would give everyone on the team except Wemby. Castle, Vassell, anyone else that Mavs want and 7 FRP

Yes. I always thought the Spurs 2026 strategy (and Miami too) involved keeping flexibility for a Luka play. More than Daron freaking Fox, lol. 😂

This is so wild to me still, wow.

[vy65]

The Mavs are just saying what they need to say. Their front office got Kyrie and let Brunson walk for nothing. They've failed Luka so far so blaming Luka after he carried that fucking team to the finals is insane. Yeah, Luka has issues but he's still a top 5 player in the NBA.

Can’t believe I’m writing this, but their FO makes Brian Wright look like Red Auerbach.

[HankChinaski]

34min 10sec:

Bill Simmons saying if he runs SA, if Mavs offered Luka, he would give everyone on the team except Wemby. Castle, Vassell, anyone else that Mavs want and 7 FRP

Yeah I am listening to them this morning. They think the trade is ridiculous. They were joking if they were the Lakers hey do you think we should take a vote Luka for AD and a future 1st, first?

Pelinka as GM of the year for picking up a phone.

Dallas optics look bad

[John B]

Calling it now, Lebron retires in a few years just as Wembanyama's entering his prime and Wemby joins Luka on the Lakers.

Translation, spurms better get their act together or it's bye bye Wemby :lol

Wemby grew up a Spurs fan. Dream on.

[Dex]

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[kjhip1]

Here I am doing my morning internet check and miss the biggest NBA news ever regarding trade in my lifetime. I was searching any updates to Fox and had to do a triple check that this trade went down. As a cowboy fan, I thought I would never ever see as dumb of an owner/GM as Jerry, but here we are…

[SupremeGuy]

Only thing that makes sense is that Luka has some major health issue... if not, this shit needs to get vetoed if the NBA wants any credibility.

[Spursfanfromafar]

I think it's time Popovich lives upto his Slovenian roots and the Slovenian mafia among the Spurs fans help out in getting the Luka in 2026 to the Spurs thing happen.

[Sugus]

:lol Mavs fan


Wonder if teams actually complain to Silver about? I doubt he pulls a veto, but we could hear some stories about it. Shit's mad rigged.

[Sugus]

Also I do believe this increases the likelihood of a Fox trade, or other trades in general.

A landscape-shaping move. Every single team in the league is re-thinking their boards and projections right now.

[Mr. Body]

Wow, I didn't realize Adelson items the Mavs. Hideous, videos person. This stinks bad.

[LeBowen]

Wow, I didn't realize Adelson items the Mavs. Hideous, videos person. This stinks bad.

You think there's actually something to them wanting to move the team to Vegas?
I always thought of Dallas as a too big of a market to lose their team, but this just doesn't add up.




“I understand why they would be shocked, initially,” Mavericks general manager Nico Harrison told The News. “But I do believe that we positioned ourselves to win now and also win in the future.

“And that’s ultimately the goal and why we’re here. It’s one of those things where it’s my job to make the tough decisions that put our goals first and foremost.”
How, when and why did this megadeal come to fruition?
Harrison cited his two-decade relationship with Lakers general manager Rob Pelinka, starting when Harrison was a Nike executive and Pelinka was a player agent.
Harrison told The News that he and Pelinka began having “basketball” conversations more than a month ago.
“Then all of a sudden we’re like, ‘Would you ever do this?’
‘Nah, you’re joking, right?’
‘Hmm. Interesting. Maybe I would.’
Added Harrison: “And then it just built over time over the last three weeks.”
“We really feel like we got ahead of what was going to be a tumultuous summer, him being eligible for the supermax and also a year away from him being able to opt out of any contract,” Harrison said. “And so we really felt like we got out in front of that. We know teams, they’ve had it out there, teams have been loading up to try to sign him once that comes available.”
“We really feel that defense wins championships, and we think the players that we’re bringing in add to the culture, which is important to what J-Kidd and I have been building here from day one,” Harrison said.
“And then obviously, when you get an all NBA player who’s also a first team All-Defensive player, we think that’s gonna help us where we need it the most, on the defensive end.”



As much as I think our front office isn't good enough, there are so many actual retards in charge of sports teams, this guy is either retarded or was paid to sabotage the team.

[mo7888]

Wow, I didn't realize Adelson items the Mavs. Hideous, videos person. This stinks bad.

She owns it, but if i remember correctly, Cuban retained control of basketball operations when he sold his interest.

[LeBowen]

She owns it, but if i remember correctly, Cuban retained control of basketball operations when he sold his interest.

No, Cuban had no say in this, he's just a mascot at this point.
We probably won't see him at Mavs games ever again, just last year he (jokingly) said he'd rather divorce his wife than trade Luka.
Decades of his hard work down the drain, Mavs are back to Hornets-tier joke franchise.

[Raven]

i don't even know what to say.. this is worse than 9/11

[mo7888]

No, Cuban had no say in this, he's just a mascot at this point.
We probably won't see him at Mavs games ever again, just last year he (jokingly) said he'd rather divorce his wife than trade Luka.
Decades of his hard work down the drain, Mavs are back to Hornets-tier joke franchise.

Gotcha...I just looked ot up and you're correct. I remembered him saying he was maintaining operational control, but after the sale he didn't have it. So I guess he lied or didn't have an ironclad contract on that part.

[itzsoweezee]

Miami and Houston have 2 defensive minded coaches who would lose it if they had to coach Luka. Just can't see either wanting him.

I don't see "plenty of teams" bro, I don't see any that would also attract Luka, condition for him to extend in the near future with his new team and make the present trade possible.

Mavs wouldn't get the equivalent of AD that allows them to remain competitive and teams with attractive draft picks would rather keep them than paying a fortune a dude who could leave for nothing in a year.

You are completely delusional.

[mo7888]

i don't even know what to say.. this is worse than 9/11

No it's not..

[TekXX]

Everyone head on over to Mavs reddit for some good entertainment. New cliff jumping threads started every 5 minutes. I mean it seems they have a right to be pissed, their GM looks to have just chosen the Lakers because he's besties with Pelinka. I'm assuming he could have gotten a better deal if he put it up for bids.

[spurraider21]

Mavs officially lost the Trae/Luka trade

[LeBowen]

Everyone head on over to Mavs reddit for some good entertainment. New cliff jumping threads started every 5 minutes. I mean it seems they have a right to be pissed, their GM looks to have just chosen the Lakers because he's besties with Pelinka. I'm assuming he could have gotten a better deal if he put it up for bids.

I actually feel bad for them.
This warrants a worse reaction than if Luka died in a car crash or something.

[itzsoweezee]

Also I do believe this increases the likelihood of a Fox trade

Unless the Spurs now think Doncic is gettable.

[mo7888]

Unless the Spurs now think Doncic is gettable.

Especially if they think Luka is gettable. It gives us a real trade chip if Luka wants to come here.

[KobesAchilles]

In a weird way this does make the Mavericks better for a title run THIS year (not even next year). Shit might even put down some money on the Mavs this year at 33-1. But man to give up a player with at least 6 more seasons of all nba 1st team for an injury probed 32 year old who will never make it again after this year is beyond shocking and stupid.

They had to have told Luka that he wasn’t getting his $346 million extension if he doesn’t show up to camp in shape and he just balked at them. In a 90s type of way I like the owners finally standing up to lazy ass players. And as a Spurs fan I love what the Mavericks did :lol

[LeBowen]

In a weird way this does make the Mavericks better for a title run THIS year (not even next year). Shit might even put down some money on the Mavs this year at 33-1.

That roster would look nice if circumstances were normal.
But like this? Mid-season trade, noone knew shit, Klay and Kyrie went there specifically because they wanted to play with Luka.
Not to mention fans' reaction and outrage, impossible environment to play in.

[Medvedenko]

I'm good with this move.

[KingKev]

In a weird way this does make the Mavericks better for a title run THIS year (not even next year). Shit might even put down some money on the Mavs this year at 33-1. But man to give up a player with at least 6 more seasons of all nba 1st team for an injury probed 32 year old who will never make it again after this year is beyond shocking and stupid.

They had to have told Luka that he wasn’t getting his $346 million extension if he doesn’t show up to camp in shape and he just balked at them. In a 90s type of way I like the owners finally standing up to lazy ass players. And as a Spurs fan I love what the Mavericks did :lol

I agree. I suspect there is more to this story behind the scenes. Luka seemed pretty happy in Dallas but I bet some shit was brewing behind closed doors. Also, fk player empowerment. I like seeing owners take back the game. If i’m paying you 60m to play sports I own your ass lol.

[Mr. Body]

You think there's actually something to them wanting to move the team to Vegas?
I always thought of Dallas as a too big of a market to lose their team, but this just doesn't add up.






I'm not sure about that, but have no idea. If they want to go to Vegas, just do the Baltimore Colts thing and move the team in the off-season. Anything is possible at this point as an explanation. If I'm conspiracy-thinking, I see this as Nico getting paid under the table or doing his Lakers buddies a favor and ownership not caring.

Reminds me a lot of when Jerry West gave his Lakers buddies Pau Gasol for Kwame Brown. I get that Marc Gasol was in that trade, but at the time he was a mid second-round pick throw-in. That trade stunk. This one's even worse.

[KobesAchilles]

That roster would look nice if circumstances were normal.
But like this? Mid-season trade, noone knew shit, Klay and Kyrie went there specifically because they wanted to play with Luka.
Not to mention fans' reaction and outrage, impossible environment to play in.
You are probably right. But I think having Kidd as a coach will be an important factor for this year. He already has Kyrie’s ear. That relationship is solid. He needs to some how figure out a way into ADs head and get him mad at the world and play like it. Also AD will be a PF like he has been begging to be for the past 4 years. Idk. I can see them going to the WCFs with the right bracket. OKC one, Denver stays 4. Who is Dallas really not favored over if they’re the 6th seed?

[Mr. Body]

Mavs with their next home game in like five days. I wonder who shows up.

[kjhip1]

Realistically, anyone see Lebron waiving no trade clause? Don’t see how this makes lakers better near term with lebron only having 1-2 years left

[TekXX]

Las Vegas is getting their expansion team, they don't need the mavs and if i'm Las Vegas i don't want another hand me down like the Raiders.

[baseline bum]

:lol Mavs only get 1 FRP for 25 years old Luka with 5 or 6 All NBA 1st team under his belt?

Did Luka fucked the wives of Mavs top management? Or he has degenerating "Brandon Roy" muscle issues?

If is about drinking beers and weight issues, this dude is still putting up near 30pts triple double. He is putting up Jokic number but at the PG position. :lol Mavs fucked up

How did Jazz get 4 FRP for Gobert and Nets get 5 FRP for Mikal Bridges?

Did Luka pull a Dwight Howard and post Free Palestine on social media or something?

[Mr. Body]

Las Vegas is getting their expansion team, they don't need the mavs and if i'm Las Vegas i don't want another hand me down like the Raiders.

The Adelsons are already balls-deep in Vegas casinos. They can buy any council person they want, and don't have to.

[Raven]

Did Luka pull a Dwight Howard and post Free Palestine on social media or something?

maybe he said that there are only two genders

[Mugen]

:lol At anybody thinking this increases the chances of Luka to SA

If anything, this increases the chances of Wemby to the Lakers in a few years. They've got a generational superstar in his prime to pair with him that they don't have to pay the Supermax for.

BWrong needs to build a team around him soon or it's bye bye.

Don't forget that Wemby's favorite player is KD, the biggest snake in league history. Loyalty ain't worth a damn thing tbh :lol

[Raven]

Why always the fucking Lakers ? Dallas could call Pat Riley and get Bam Adebayo + Jovic + multi 1st. They could call Rockets and get everybody the like. Boston would trade Jalen Brown easily.

it can't be a coincidence

[TekXX]

maybe he said that there are only two genders

The Adelsons are MAGAt conservative billionaires like most billionaires outisde Cuban and Soros. Do try to keep up.

[Raven]

:lol At anybody thinking this increases the chances of Luka to SA

If anything, this increases the chances of Wemby to the Lakers in a few years. They've got a generational superstar in his prime to pair with him that they don't have to pay the Supermax for.

BWrong needs to build a team around him soon or it's bye bye.

Don't forget that Wemby's favorite player is KD, the biggest snake in league history. Loyalty ain't worth a damn thing tbh :lol

increases both tbf

[baseline bum]

maybe he said that there are only two genders

That wouldn't have pissed that zionist fuck owner off

[KobesAchilles]

Can we get LeBron???

[Mr. Body]

Also, again, never trust a guy named Nico. Never.

[RC_Drunkford]

I think it's time Popovich lives upto his Slovenian roots and the Slovenian mafia among the Spurs fans help out in getting the Luka in 2026 to the Spurs thing happen.

He's not Slovenian. He's Serbian and Croatian. I know y'all Americans also think Africa, London and Paris are countries, but y'all should learn some geography :lol

[Mr. Body]

You know who is also from Slovenia? Melania Trump.

[DPG21920]

That roster would look nice if circumstances were normal.
But like this? Mid-season trade, noone knew shit, Klay and Kyrie went there specifically because they wanted to play with Luka.
Not to mention fans' reaction and outrage, impossible environment to play in.

Exactly. AD Is a damn good player when healthy and Mavs still have a shot at a title here…but still an outrageous trade from Dallas on every level

[TekXX]

He's not Slovenian. He's Serbian and Croatian. I know y'all Americans also think Africa, London and Paris are countries, but y'all should learn some geography :lol

White is white, who really cares.

[Raven]

No it's not..

doubt you're as big of a donut fan and laker hater as i am, but fair play

[Mr. Body]

Exactly. AD Is a damn good player when healthy and Mavs still have a shot at a title here…but still an outrageous trade from Dallas on every level

It's anti-competitive in a sense, too, as Mavs didn't get more of the Lakers' assets for him. They still stand on a lot of draft picks. It's not good for the league or balance.

[Raven]

I think it's time Popovich lives upto his Slovenian roots and the Slovenian mafia among the Spurs fans help out in getting the Luka in 2026 to the Spurs thing happen.

as a slovenian, i agree

[Mugen]

It's anti-competitive in a sense, too, as Mavs didn't get more of the Lakers' assets for him. They still stand on a lot of draft picks. It's not good for the league or balance.

:lol What makes you think the league wants competitiveness?

[RC_Drunkford]

I wonder who hired the Mavs GM? Was it new ownership? I need a timeline of the hirings cause Cuban would never

[Spursfanfromafar]

He's not Slovenian. He's Serbian and Croatian. I know y'all Americans also think Africa, London and Paris are countries, but y'all should learn some geography :lol

I was joking. Should have put up the blue font.

[The Truth #6]

Makes our Luka situation not seem so bad now.

[Raven]

In a weird way this does make the Mavericks better for a title run THIS year (not even next year). Shit might even put down some money on the Mavs this year at 33-1. But man to give up a player with at least 6 more seasons of all nba 1st team for an injury probed 32 year old who will never make it again after this year is beyond shocking and stupid.

They had to have told Luka that he wasn’t getting his $346 million extension if he doesn’t show up to camp in shape and he just balked at them. In a 90s type of way I like the owners finally standing up to lazy ass players. And as a Spurs fan I love what the Mavericks did :lol

it assumes kyrie irving plays the pick and roll, which he doesn't

[BatManu20]

12 hours later and the shock still hasn't worn off . The Mavs really traded away a top-3 player in the world who's just now entering his prime for an aging AD and ONE FRP. Literally gifted him to the worst, most insufferable franchise/fan base on the planet.

Like what the actual fuck :lol. Fuck the Lakers so goddamn hard forever and always and twice on Sundays.

[TD 21]

You are probably right. But I think having Kidd as a coach will be an important factor for this year. He already has Kyrie’s ear. That relationship is solid. He needs to some how figure out a way into ADs head and get him mad at the world and play like it. Also AD will be a PF like he has been begging to be for the past 4 years. Idk. I can see them going to the WCFs with the right bracket. OKC one, Denver stays 4. Who is Dallas really not favored over if they’re the 6th seed?

Davis will play more nominal PF, but I've got to think a Gafford (Lively III?) trade is coming to both decongest the front line and add ancillary ball handling/play making.

Either way, their puncher's chance at a championship is gone and even though the Lakers now have a conceivable path to one, they're eons away from it, with limited resources to get to it.

Still obviously an all-time no brainer though given the age gap/limited secondary assets given up.

[TekXX]

How many good years is Dallas getting out of AD? Like maybe 3 if he's healthy. I mean i also get that Doncic is a fat fuck but even him at 50% is still better than most guys in the league and they just moved on from him like it was nothing.

[The Truth #6]

Once AD gets injured again, trade him back to NO for Zion.

[Raven]

How many good years is Dallas getting out of AD? Like maybe 3 if he's healthy. I mean i also get that Doncic is a fat fuck but even him at 50% is still better than most guys in the league and they just moved on from him like it was nothing.

lucky if 2 tbh

[SpursGenius]

Price of trading for other players has gone down. No way other teams can pretend they can try to ask more than what the Mavs got for Luka
This means we can get Fox for Keldon and the charlotte frp. Lakers get away with so much bs. Spurs would have traded their 6 frps for Luca. All their players too except Wemby and Castle.

[Spurminator]

To be fair, how is Adelson supposed to afford Luka's supermax after she just paid Trump $100 million?

He's gonna get way more than that in tax cits

[BatManu20]

This means we can get Fox for Keldon and the charlotte frp. Lakers get away with so much bs. Spurs would have traded their 6 frps for Luca. All their players too except Wemby and Castle.

Spurs would've absolutely traded Castle for Luka. Literally anyone but Wemby. Trade would've been Castle + Vassell + Keldon + whoever + 6 FRP's & FRP Swaps

[KobesAchilles]

Do the owners have any hot daughters that Luka smashed bc this clearly came from ownership.

Maybe Luka was opting out and the owner said they weren’t gonna pay him the super max and the GM was like well fuck :lol

This trade just makes zero sense even if Luka was the laziest piece of shit. He was still 1st team all nba. Led his team to the finals. And is only 25.

[Raven]

Do the owners have any hot daughters that Luka smashed bc this clearly came from ownership.

Maybe Luka was opting out and the owner said they weren’t gonna pay him the super max and the GM was like well fuck :lol

This trade just makes zero sense even if Luka was the laziest piece of shit. He was still 1st team all nba. Led his team to the finals. And is only 25.

it still doesn't make sense, because why would you trade for a failed 2nd banana in the twilight of his career when you could get almost any asset in the leaague

[Mugen]

increases both tbf

No, it doesn't :lol

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If the Spurs have any reservations about paying the Supermax, then Wemby is as good as gone tbh.

[baseline bum]

If the Lakers can get Luka that cheap Spurs need to be on the phone to Minny to try to get Ant for Vassell, Sochan, and the Charlotte first.

[itzsoweezee]

A secret trade negotiation for one of the top five players in the nba? A significant player being investigated by the fbi for anti competitive/gambling activities directly impacts the sport, after being cleared by the league? The commissioner just throwing out there the idea shortening games for the fuck of it? Talk of expanding into/creating a sister league in Europe? A blatant money grab presented as an “nba cup”?

There is so much shady shit going on with the nba now. This league is less and less a sport, and more just pure entertainment.

[Mr. Body]

:lol What makes you think the league wants competitiveness?

I mean in terms of the other teams and GMs. The front office wants the Lakers show. I remember David Stern outright saying he wanted the Lakers to play the Lakers in every finals.

[Mr. Body]

A secret trade negotiation for one of the top five players in the nba? A significant player being investigated by the fbi for anti competitive/gambling activities directly impacts the sport, after being cleared by the league? The commissioner just throwing out there the idea shortening games for the fuck of it? Talk of expanding into/creating a sister league in Europe? A blatant money grab presented as an “nba cup”?

There is so much shady shit going on with the nba now. This league is less and less a sport, and more just pure entertainment.

And yet it's the least corrupt part of our society right now.

[Mugen]

I mean in terms of the other teams and GMs. The front office wants the Lakers show. I remember David Stern outright saying he wanted the Lakers to play the Lakers in every finals.

What are they gonna do about it? :lol

[vy65]

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[BatManu20]

If the Lakers can get Luka that cheap Spurs need to be on the phone to Minny to try to get Ant for Vassell, Sochan, and the Charlotte first.

No way this resets the trade market. This was just a God-awful trade by Mavs' brass and legitimately feels like it was a gift to the Lakers to try to keep the NBA's ratings from further declining over for the foreseeable future.

[TekXX]

I'm assuming being in L.A means he'll be making more money on the side than he would in Dallas. He'll make up his supermax. Also being rich he'll avoid paying most taxes and us plebs will pay everything.

[mo7888]

1885986401822683376

:hungry: :rollin

[Spurminator]

Can’t believe I’m writing this, but their FO makes Brian Wright look like Red Auerbach.

I don't know about that. Finals last season and they actually have a better team this year IMO. They certainly have drafted better too. Without all the injuries I think they make it back to the Conference Finals at worst.

Occam's Razor is that it's as simple as they're saying. They feel that locking Luka in to a super max contract is too much of a risk. Maybe that came more from the top than Nico is letting on, but I can see how they would be frustrated that Luka isn't as motivated on the conditioning side as other NBA greats.

Unfortunately, this will probably be the thing that motivates him, which is why I'm betting on him winning MVP next season (and betting the over every time he plays the Mavs.)

[Mugen]

No way this resets the trade market. This was just a God-awful trade by Mavs' brass and legitimately feels like it was a gift to the Lakers to try to keep the NBA's ratings from further declining over for the foreseeable future.

This. It was the Mavs' brass cheaping out on Luka (love the he's fat/lazy spin immediately after) and directing their GM to fall on the sword. So the GM decides to just hook up his old buddy in Pelinka. What a fucking joke :lol

[Mugen]

That fat drunk was first team All NBA the last 5 years in his early 20s.

Shaq was fat AF for the Lakers 3 peat.

Who gives a shit about conditioning :lol

[CorrectCrusader]

Nope. We made that trade.

You're on crack.

[NASpurs]

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[skin27]

I think this is on luka not wanting to sign an extension or the mavs doesnt like luka’s attitude or something.

[Degoat]

Just hope he’s smart and doesn’t invest in any houses out there…. Too soon? Heard there’s a fire sale been going on

[scott]

Actual number is closer to 139, but then you also need to factor in Lebron's salary. So if he gets the min, lets say the end up at 141.5. But that's also just 11 players. So then you have a cap hold as well. 13 million is basically what you're left with which is the MLE which is how I KNOW Lebron isn't taking the min because why the fuck would he give up money that doesn't open up more space?

Also why is Lebron going to help them if they are punting on a season with him at 40? That would be very different than how he's operated. I definitely think they HAVE to make moves, but they are in an incredibly inflexible position to move on with Lebron and still have a good team. I think ultimately they obviously should always make this trade, but the more I think about it the more I think there's a big chance this is the end of the Lebron era in LA.

Lebron can just resign last with his bird rights - can't he? He doesn't actually factor into this? And that's assuming he is even back. Lakers may be doing this not as a Lebron-Luka pairing, but a complete reset with Luka as their new centerpiece.

[scott]

I know you're being sarcastic, and I get how this situation in particular seems so absurd that it makes no sense to try to look at it as part of a trend.. Every time something like this fails, there's always some special reason to justify why it didn't work out. However, the fact that despite all the unique circumstances each situation has, this result happens basically every single time should give you pause. Luka didn't want to commit to a moribund team that has no future, so he wasn't willing to put in the work despite his considerable talent. The lack of a path to contention makes stars ask out far more than a team having a path but not moving early enough.

The Spurs aren't likely to win a title over the next 2-4 years with or without Fox (or Markkanen or Young). They are much more likely to lose their chance in 4-6 years to win if they give up their best assets in a quest to try to make something of a Wemby/Fox core now. And no, it's not sniffing, because I have no idea what the Spurs are going to do. If they trade for Fox, I'll still think it was the wrong move. I'll try to focus on the good of it, but that's not the same thing as me thinking it was a nice move. Fox is not on Morant's tier, regardless of what some stats say. Fox is the kind of guy you hope is a number 2 to a Wemby who's developed enough to win a title. Morant a guy who can be a 1a/1b with Wemby while Victor is still growing. He has MVP candidate upside. Fox does not. Of course, Morant has his issues that make him a risky get, and he's not on the block. My point is that when you have to try to build around Wemby and one other max player, that breaking point is Morant. Fox, Garland and even Young aren't above that cutoff.

Someone who is above that breaking point and may actually be available is Irving. He has plenty of his own problems. But he's firmly in that trench where he can be the player to help Wemby now while also being too old to require major investment. You get him for a couple of years, and then you let him go and hope either someone like Castle has proven himself or that a target aligned with the team's needs is around is available.

You make a lot of assumptions here that are, quite frankly, just speculation on your behalf (Luka not waiting to commit, that Luka asked out)

The rest is just a difference of opinion, which is neither right or wrong - it's just difference of opinion. We'll continue to respectfully disagree and that's what makes the site great. Good to have you back.

[mo7888]

Lebron can just resign last with his bird rights - can't he? He doesn't actually factor into this? And that's assuming he is even back. Lakers may be doing this not as a Lebron-Luka pairing, but a complete reset with Luka as their new centerpiece.

He can, but he'd have a cap hold that eats up space.

[Sugus]

Unless the Spurs now think Doncic is gettable.

No way they think this. Spurs FO has a long history of seeing Lakers fuckery and the effect of their big market pull.

Doncic in LA is beyond getting a hold of. They'll bend over for Luka and tell him he's thin and fit a thousand times over and he'll re-sign.


The Spurs may bet on getting Fox in FA instead of this deadline, but I doubt the trade changed any of their long-term plans specifically. It's other teams that might be scrambling right now.

[John B]

No, it doesn't :lol

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If the Spurs have any reservations about paying the Supermax, then Wemby is as good as gone tbh.

Why would the Spurs not when Wemby brings 100 times more in merchandise and business not only to the Spurs but San Antonio. And Wemby is no 270 lbs overweight. Wemby takes care of his body and 100 times mature than these superstars

[SpursGenius]

This. It was the Mavs' brass cheaping out on Luka (love the he's fat/lazy spin immediately after) and directing their GM to fall on the sword. So the GM decides to just hook up his old buddy in Pelinka. What a fucking joke :lol
Doesn’t matter if Luca had AIDS. 29 teams would have offered more than lakers gave up. You ship him around if you wanted to trade him. Spurs would have given more than what lakers gave up by a mile. Even for a 1.5 year rental of Luca.

[spurraider21]

People are missing the boat. Ok, the Mavs felt it was risky to supermax him. A retarded thought, but let’s entertain it.

that doesn’t justify the piss poor return. If they shopped for 10 minutes they could have gotten significantly more value. This just smells wrong

[Dex]

Mavs subreddit is having a full-on meltdown and I don't blame them.

This goes to show that even the "untouchables" are truly not that.

Also seems sus that the only team they talked to was the Lakers and their "only target" was an aging Anthony Davis. Dallas is posturing this is as a win-now move, but you take yourself out of win-now mode by trading Luka. Congrats, you are just another middling team in the West.

This seriously feels like there is some collusion going on behind the scenes, but that would be par the course for the Lakers.

[John B]

I think this is on luka not wanting to sign an extension or the mavs doesnt like luka’s attitude or something.

You have to think the Mavs are doing a fast move on the Lakers. Why not offer to every team and get 6 FRP unprotected? Maybe a debilitating injury, fatso has been out on calf injury. Embiid-like lazy on a supermax?? Who knows? Cuban is no dumb businessman.

[DAF86]

Not sure why most posters think Mavs are the losing side in that trade tbh

Only aspect Lakers are winning is the entertainment one.

I was a fan of Luka since Europe and his first cple NBA years, but he's become a caricature of heliocentrism and lack of work ethic. I would've hate to have him on my team

Genius move from Dallas, I hate to say it.

It MIGHT be genius if they would have gotten 5 to 6 unprotected first round picks, what they did is just retarded.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

People are missing the boat. Ok, the Mavs felt it was risky to supermax him. A retarded thought, but let’s entertain it.

that doesn’t justify the piss poor return. If they shopped for 10 minutes they could have gotten significantly more value. This just smells wrong

I hate conspiracies, but just imagine Mavs falling off the playoffs and winning the Flagg lottery with like 1.5% chance.

[ginobilized]

What an unexpected turn of events.
I wonder if this makes Gafford and Lively part of the Mavs plans going forward? If not, might want to kick the tires on them.

[vy65]

I don't know about that. Finals last season and they actually have a better team this year IMO. They certainly have drafted better too. Without all the injuries I think they make it back to the Conference Finals at worst.

Occam's Razor is that it's as simple as they're saying. They feel that locking Luka in to a super max contract is too much of a risk. Maybe that came more from the top than Nico is letting on, but I can see how they would be frustrated that Luka isn't as motivated on the conditioning side as other NBA greats.

Unfortunately, this will probably be the thing that motivates him, which is why I'm betting on him winning MVP next season (and betting the over every time he plays the Mavs.)

All of that is true. Complete agreement. They still didn’t shop arguably the second best player in the league. That is managerial malpractice.

[Dex]

More fuel to the fire


Harrison cited his two-decade relationship with Lakers general manager Rob Pelinka, starting when Harrison was a Nike executive and Pelinka was a player agent.

Harrison told The News that he and Pelinka began having “basketball” conversations more than a month ago.

“Then all of a sudden we’re like, ‘Would you ever do this?’

‘Nah, you’re joking, right?’

‘Hmm. Interesting. Maybe I would.’

Added Harrison: “And then it just built over time over the last three weeks.”

That's some sneaky buddy-buddy shit right there.

[Obstructed_View]

No way this resets the trade market. This was just a God-awful trade by Mavs' brass and legitimately feels like it was a gift to the Lakers to try to keep the NBA's ratings from further declining over for the foreseeable future.
Mavericks are owned by people who don't give a shit about basketball or basketball fans. Someone made financial assurances to them and they propped up the league's premier market because they are stuck using a fifty year old marketing system. Now the Mavs are just like the Cowboys.

[Mugen]

People are missing the boat. Ok, the Mavs felt it was risky to supermax him. A retarded thought, but let’s entertain it.

that doesn’t justify the piss poor return. If they shopped for 10 minutes they could have gotten significantly more value. This just smells wrong

Or just supermax him and get the biggest haul ever in NBA history. Either way, there are some BTS shit going on.

[LakerHater]

They jus didn't wanna pay him $345mil, now this year makes him ineligible for the supermax

[scott]

Just throwing some thoughts out there, which are worth what you paid for them: nothing.



I've been trying to think if this makes it more or less likely Luka hits FA in 2026, and I think the answer is "far less". Luka lost the Supermax, it would be foolish to also lose the Bird raises. I think he signs the shorter-term deal to be a FA in 2028/29 timeframe to be able to get the 10-year vet Supermax.
Even if the Mavs have info on Luka that makes this make sense, and even if AD goes on an insane tear and leads them to 3 titles... this is still a bad trade just because of the potential ROI they passed up right now. Yes, AD is a good player (#11 on Simmons Trave Value Rankings). But Luka was #4 on those same rankings. This would be like if we traded Wemby (#1 on the list) for Paolo (#8 on the list) and only got 1 FRP back. For real... think about that proposal. Wemby for Paolo. How many draft picks would you require ORL to throw in for you to even consider that? That is the the part of this that makes this trade so bad
I'd assume Luka still has to pass a physical? If the Mavs did this because they wanted to get ahead of some adverse health issue (beyond Luka just being fat, like if he has a chronic calf condition and he'll never be the same and only the Mavs now right now)... it's going to be discovered and the trade will be voided. Likewise, if the Mavs caught Luka with a trunk full of dead hookers and they know about this and didn't disclose it, there would be massive repercussions later (the kind that would cost Adelson the entire franchise).


It still doesn't make sense, and you can't dismiss the people who are saying this is fishy.

[Spurminator]

All of that is true. Complete agreement. They still didn’t shop arguably the second best player in the league. That is managerial malpractice.

True. It baffles me that Nico is out there bragging about his great relationship with Pelinka. What fanbase wants a GM who's friends with other GMs and looking out for their interests as much as their own? We want to believe our GM is a cutthroat negotiation mastermind who's getting the upper hand on other GMs.

[RC_Drunkford]

More fuel to the fire



That's some sneaky buddy-buddy shit right there.


Harrison cited his two-decade relationship with Lakers general manager Rob Pelinka, starting when Harrison was a Nike executive and Pelinka was a player agent.

Harrison told The News that he and Pelinka began having “basketball” conversations more than a month ago.

“Then all of a sudden we’re like, ‘Would you ever fuck a donkey?’

‘Nah, you’re joking, right?’

‘Hmm. Interesting. Maybe I would.’

Added Harrison: “And then it just built over time over the last three weeks.”


FIFY

[Blizzardwizard]

It's a shame. If the Mavs had decided to blow it all up SAS would probably have been at the front of the line. Instead they deluded themselves into thinking they can still compete and took the 'win-now' offer SAS obviously can't make.

Not dissimilar to PATFO deluding themselves into thinking they could carry on as normal and all was well with DDR/LMA after Kawhi skipped town.

On paper an AD/Kyrie-led team looks somewhat competitive but you can't underestimate the psychological damage a move like this can cause a franchise. Players and coaches blindsided. Fanbase in anarchy. These type of trades loom over franchises for years.

Mavs fans will be baying for blood at the first sign of trouble be it a losing streak or if AD starts missing games again.

It's over for them basically. Nico Harrison is basically the Colangelos at the end of that one 76ers Game of Zones episode.

[Dejounte]

Just throwing some thoughts out there, which are worth what you paid for them: nothing.



I've been trying to think if this makes it more or less likely Luka hits FA in 2026, and I think the answer is "far less". Luka lost the Supermax, it would be foolish to also lose the Bird raises. I think he signs the shorter-term deal to be a FA in 2028/29 timeframe to be able to get the 10-year vet Supermax.
Even if the Mavs have info on Luka that makes this make sense, and even if AD goes on an insane tear and leads them to 3 titles... this is still a bad trade just because of the potential ROI they passed up right now. Yes, AD is a good player (#11 on Simmons Trave Value Rankings). But Luka was #4 on those same rankings. This would be like if we traded Wemby (#1 on the list) for Paolo (#8 on the list) and only got 1 FRP back. For real... think about that proposal. Wemby for Paolo. How many draft picks would you require ORL to throw in for you to even consider that? That is the the part of this that makes this trade so bad
I'd assume Luka still has to pass a physical? If the Mavs did this because they wanted to get ahead of some adverse health issue (beyond Luka just being fat, like if he has a chronic calf condition and he'll never be the same and only the Mavs now right now)... it's going to be discovered and the trade will be voided. Likewise, if the Mavs caught Luka with a trunk full of dead hookers and they know about this and didn't disclose it, there would be massive repercussions later (the kind that would cost Adelson the entire franchise).


It still doesn't make sense, and you can't dismiss the people who are saying this is fishy.

I believe there was a graphic out there that said whenever the Lakers are good, those are the same years the NBA makes the most money.

[mo7888]

Just throwing some thoughts out there, which are worth what you paid for them: nothing.



I've been trying to think if this makes it more or less likely Luka hits FA in 2026, and I think the answer is "far less". Luka lost the Supermax, it would be foolish to also lose the Bird raises. I think he signs the shorter-term deal to be a FA in 2028/29 timeframe to be able to get the 10-year vet Supermax.
Even if the Mavs have info on Luka that makes this make sense, and even if AD goes on an insane tear and leads them to 3 titles... this is still a bad trade just because of the potential ROI they passed up right now. Yes, AD is a good player (#11 on Simmons Trave Value Rankings). But Luka was #4 on those same rankings. This would be like if we traded Wemby (#1 on the list) for Paolo (#8 on the list) and only got 1 FRP back. For real... think about that proposal. Wemby for Paolo. How many draft picks would you require ORL to throw in for you to even consider that? That is the the part of this that makes this trade so bad
I'd assume Luka still has to pass a physical? If the Mavs did this because they wanted to get ahead of some adverse health issue (beyond Luka just being fat, like if he has a chronic calf condition and he'll never be the same and only the Mavs now right now)... it's going to be discovered and the trade will be voided. Likewise, if the Mavs caught Luka with a trunk full of dead hookers and they know about this and didn't disclose it, there would be massive repercussions later (the kind that would cost Adelson the entire franchise).


It still doesn't make sense, and you can't dismiss the people who are saying this is fishy.

I'm mostly interested in how this move impacts other GM's around the league.

1) Will this make draft picks more valuable?

2) Will other GM's see value in trading max players for other max players to avoid super max extensions?

3) will other teams be more likely to enter trades this week while all the focus is on this deal?

4) We all know Sac only really cares about selling tickets. They'd move Fox for a bag of peanuts if they thought they could still sell tickets. Are they more likely to move him now under the cover this trade provides?

[RC_Drunkford]

So he's been the Mavs GM since 2021 and was hired by Mark Cuban? I would've assumed this was a Lakers' inside job, but he's been in charge for quite a while.


The Dallas Mavericks signed General Manager Nico Harrison to a multi-year contract extension, the team announced Tuesday. The announcement comes days before the Mavericks make their third-ever appearance in the NBA Finals (https://www.cbsnews.com/texas/news/dallas-mavericks-minnesota-timberwolves-game-5-western-conference-finals/).


"I am incredibly grateful to Patrick [Dumont] and the entire Dumont and Adelson family for their continued trust and confidence and to Mark [Cuban] for his willingness to hire an unconventional candidate," Harrison said. "Patrick and his family have accepted me as their own from day one and I am honored to work alongside them, as well as Jason Kidd (https://www.cbsnews.com/texas/news/jason-kidd-dallas-mavericks-extension-2024/), as we continue to build a winning culture in Dallas."


Harrison was named general manager of the Mavericks on June 28, 2021, following 19 years at Nike, most recently holding the title of vice president of North American sports marketing. Before that, he played professional basketball in Europe for over six years.
During his time with the Mavericks, the team signed Luka Doncic to a $215 million contract extension. Over the past year, the team drafted Dereck Lively II and traded for Daniel Gafford and P.J. Washington Jr. – all of whom have been key contributors to the Mavs' run to the NBA Finals.

[vy65]

1885960832216928287

:lmao

Brutal

[vy65]

True. It baffles me that Nico is out there bragging about his great relationship with Pelinka. What fanbase wants a GM who's friends with other GMs and looking out for their interests as much as their own? We want to believe our GM is a cutthroat negotiation mastermind who's getting the upper hand on other GMs.

It’s super fucking weird. I’m not one to think there’s collusion, but this is so fucking weird that it’s making we question things. Just utterly bizarre.

[ginobilized]

Just throwing some thoughts out there, which are worth what you paid for them: nothing.



I've been trying to think if this makes it more or less likely Luka hits FA in 2026, and I think the answer is "far less". Luka lost the Supermax, it would be foolish to also lose the Bird raises. I think he signs the shorter-term deal to be a FA in 2028/29 timeframe to be able to get the 10-year vet Supermax.
Even if the Mavs have info on Luka that makes this make sense, and even if AD goes on an insane tear and leads them to 3 titles... this is still a bad trade just because of the potential ROI they passed up right now. Yes, AD is a good player (#11 on Simmons Trave Value Rankings). But Luka was #4 on those same rankings. This would be like if we traded Wemby (#1 on the list) for Paolo (#8 on the list) and only got 1 FRP back. For real... think about that proposal. Wemby for Paolo. How many draft picks would you require ORL to throw in for you to even consider that? That is the the part of this that makes this trade so bad
I'd assume Luka still has to pass a physical? If the Mavs did this because they wanted to get ahead of some adverse health issue (beyond Luka just being fat, like if he has a chronic calf condition and he'll never be the same and only the Mavs now right now)... it's going to be discovered and the trade will be voided. Likewise, if the Mavs caught Luka with a trunk full of dead hookers and they know about this and didn't disclose it, there would be massive repercussions later (the kind that would cost Adelson the entire franchise).


It still doesn't make sense, and you can't dismiss the people who are saying this is fishy.

Scott, with all due respect, I have to disagree very strongly with one of these points. Maybe the size of my trunk is smaller than what is optimal for a dead hooker, but, I've never been able to fit more than one in my trunk. It is so hard to get the positioning right and they are very cumbersome. Who among us hasn't had one dead hooker in the trunk at some point? Hardly a reason to trade a player.

[Splits]

People are missing the boat. Ok, the Mavs felt it was risky to supermax him. A retarded thought, but let’s entertain it.

that doesn’t justify the piss poor return. If they shopped for 10 minutes they could have gotten significantly more value. This just smells wrong

Bend over. I'll show you something that smells wrong

[BatManu20]

https://preview.redd.it/this-trade-comparison-makes-it-worse-v0-ahdffznmkrge1.jpeg?auto=webp&5d957cabWatch Ainge inexplicably gift them Walker Kessler for a SRP now cause fuck it, why not?

1886119786381508877

[Splits]

Scott, with all due respect, I have to disagree very strongly with one of these points. Maybe the size of my trunk is smaller than what is optimal for a dead hooker, but, I've never been able to fit more than one in my trunk. It is so hard to get the positioning right and they are very cumbersome. Who among us hasn't had one dead hooker in the trunk at some point? Hardly a reason to trade a player.

It is also difficult to position them correctly unless they have pointy elbows. And who wants a hooker with pointy elbows

[Leetonidas]

It's just nuts that they did this mid season too. They could have still made the finals with the team they had. If they wanted to trade Luka anyway why not wait til the offseason when you know who has the #1 pick? Just makes no sense to trade a superstar for a lesser player as a win now move. Unless Lukas career is about to take a Kawhi trajectory injury wise and no one knows it yet besides the Mavericks FO, I can't wrap my head around it

[scott]

I'm mostly interested in how this move impacts other GM's around the league.

1) Will this make draft picks more valuable?

2) Will other GM's see value in trading max players for other max players to avoid super max extensions?

3) will other teams be more likely to enter trades this week while all the focus is on this deal?

4) We all know Sac only really cares about selling tickets. They'd move Fox for a bag of peanuts if they thought they could still sell tickets. Are they more likely to move him now under the cover this trade provides?

I think one big learning lesson here is that picks are not the only currency by which you can hang your hat on if you want to go big game hunting. Nico called the Lakers specifically (and one other mystery team) because they had another player who fit what they are trying to do right now. Spurs fans are rightfully miffed that we didn't have a chance to make a "better offer" - but the fact is there is no better offer we could have made in Nico's eyes, short of Wemby (which wasn't happening).

Likewise, in the Fox discussions, there is a sentiment that we don't have the right players to offer back, we only have picks, and that should not be something that is just dismissed. It's a real issue.

If we want to go big game hunting, our assets limit our range of possibilities to guys on teams that value picks. Not every team does.

In that respect, while I don't regret not having Dillingham, he might have been more useful in trying to get a player like Fox than just yet another draft pick. Likewise, having Fox might be more helpful than just having picks for acquiring the next star.

I think we've overvalued our war chest. Picks are valuable, but they aren't the only currency and some teams don't take American Express (which are picks in this case).

I also think that is important to remember in the context of teams like OKC and HOU. They have picks AND useful players to offer. That means they can top us in most deals if they want.

Let's get Fox done.

[BatManu20]

Clint Capela to the Lakers rumors are picking up steam. Would suck for the lakers to get more help. Would help our ATL Pick a bit. But if we're trading it for Fox regardless then it really doesn't matter I guess.

[lefty]

I think Mavs know something we don’t know. First Luka is out of shape and injured too. He don’t play defense. I think the Mavs with Davis have a better chance to win with this group. Probably they have a 2 year window.

yeah short term iit’s a more balanced team tbh

long term though :lol

[lefty]

https://preview.redd.it/this-trade-comparison-makes-it-worse-v0-ahdffznmkrge1.jpeg?auto=webp&5d957cabWatch Ainge inexplicably gift them Walker Kessler for a SRP now cause fuck it, why not?
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It’s the Lakers, Ainge ain’t gifting them anything them, but he’ll find away to fleece them

[lefty]

‪The Mavs FO is a team of Lakers assets, a covert operation is the only explanation ‬

[CGD]

1885929413034082685

If this is real, this is awesome haha

[Ice009]

It's just nuts that they did this mid season too. They could have still made the finals with the team they had. If they wanted to trade Luka anyway why not wait til the offseason when you know who has the #1 pick? Just makes no sense to trade a superstar for a lesser player as a win now move. Unless Lukas career is about to take a Kawhi trajectory injury wise and no one knows it yet besides the Mavericks FO, I can't wrap my head around it

Interesting scenario since you mentioned the number 1 pick. Do you think that some teams would give up the number 1 pick if they were offered Luka for it?

[T Park]

https://preview.redd.it/this-trade-comparison-makes-it-worse-v0-ahdffznmkrge1.jpeg?auto=webp&5d957cabWatch Ainge inexplicably gift them Walker Kessler for a SRP now cause fuck it, why not?

1886119786381508877


Nah Ainge has been super tough to get through with.

[BatManu20]

Nah Ainge has been super tough to get through with.

Yea I'm kidding bc of the gift the lakers just received, but I could seem trading for Clint Capela. Hopefully the Hawks won't just give him away the way the Mavs do their franchise players though.

[mo7888]

Yea I'm kidding of the gift the lakers just received, but I could seem trading for Clint Cappela.

Capela makes sense and so does Jak

[BatManu20]

Capela makes sense and so does Jak

Jan would be great but unless the Raptors lowball themselves like the Mavs just did, I don't see what the Lakers have to offer right now to acquire him.

[Dod01]

Silver has ruined the NBA.

This shit was happening under David Stern's watch as well. Silver is just continuing the tradition of corruption.

[Maddog]

Capela makes sense and so does Jak

Capela is an expiring so is probably reasonable cost.

[T Park]

Yea I'm kidding bc of the gift the lakers just received, but I could seem trading for Clint Capela. Hopefully the Hawks won't just give him away the way the Mavs do their franchise players though.

Well the hawks are desperate to get off capela so the lakers could get him for prob pure matching expirings

[T Park]

This shit was happening under David Stern's watch as well. Silver is just continuing the tradition of corruption.

Stern literally vetoed prime Chris Paul to the Lakers for a trade semi similar to this.

[CGD]

I'm mostly interested in how this move impacts other GM's around the league.

1) Will this make draft picks more valuable?

2) Will other GM's see value in trading max players for other max players to avoid super max extensions?

3) will other teams be more likely to enter trades this week while all the focus is on this deal?

4) We all know Sac only really cares about selling tickets. They'd move Fox for a bag of peanuts if they thought they could still sell tickets. Are they more likely to move him now under the cover this trade provides?

On #1, my hope is that reset the ridiculous expectation that good but not great players should command 4FRPs (at least).

[vy65]

1886090738720457062

:lmao

[scott]

I love that Danny Ainge got a call from LA and DAL like "Hey, we need to offload some salary for this deal we are working on, will you take Jalen Hood Schifino for a couple of SRPs?" and Ainge is like "yeah I got you fam, easy work." Then Ainge is crawling into bed in his Celtics pajamas and decides to check Twitter and is like "holy shit what did I just help with?"

[CGD]

1886090738720457062

:lmao

Is that LeBron calling him? Also what the implication here, that he Nico called him when we was asleep?

[InRareForm]

Kyrie sitting today lol

[ace3g]

Kyrie sitting today lol

https://x.com/MavsPR/status/1886130588421132410

[ace3g]

https://x.com/Lakers/status/1886131486753185875

https://x.com/KevinOConnorNBA/status/1886131425318981746

[LeBowen]

https://x.com/KevinOConnorNBA/status/1886131425318981746

https://media.tenor.com/XuGpBO37LqkAAAAM/magic-johnson-im-not-gonna-be-here.gif

Main character syndrome. He wanted to be remembered for something and went all in.
Odds of him looking like a retard two years down the road are 99.9999%, but he wants that 0.0001% outcome.
If he fails, who fucking cares, he'll just get fired, it's not like anyone is going to murder him or some shit.


https://preview.redd.it/this-trade-comparison-makes-it-worse-v0-ahdffznmkrge1.jpeg?auto=webp&5d957cab

[LeBowen]

https://i.imgur.com/jWP77tO.png

[SupremeGuy]

Stern literally vetoed prime Chris Paul to the Lakers for a trade semi similar to this.Was that before or after Jerry West sent Pau Gasol? And then didn't Jerry West retire right after? lol This whole shit stinks. Everyone knows it.

[Ice009]

https://i.imgur.com/jWP77tO.png

Yep, this is THE most ridiculous trade in NBA history, or if not the worst, very close to it.

[Dverde]

I think I know one of the televised games for Christmas next year :lol

[LeBowen]

Tbf, Stern vetoed the trade because league technically owned Pelicans at the time.
This trade is even worse than that one.

Hornets would've had Scola, Odom, Kevin Martin, Dragic and a FRP from that trade.

[Raven]

Capela makes sense and so does Jak

why not bassey tbh

[LeBowen]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GizieAMbkAAZh9t?format=jpg&name=small

A retard and an alcoholic wife-beater walk into a bar...:lmao

[DPG21920]

Nico just admitted live that: Luka never asked to be traded. Never indicated he would not sign a supermax and that LA was the only team he called.

Unreal

[Ice009]

Nico just admitted live that: Luka never asked to be traded. Never indicated he would not sign a supermax and that LA was the only team he called.

Unreal

What in the actual fuck was the point of the trade then? Is there a link to the BS he's trying to feed people?

If AD was a few years younger, then I could see the trade being a little better and why they wanted to make this trade, but with Anthony Davis' injury history and current age, the return just isn't right. It just doesn't add up at all. 1+1 in this case = 0.

[vy65]

1886107769201115155

:cry Nico please :cry

[NASpurs]

Nico just admitted live that: Luka never asked to be traded. Never indicated he would not sign a supermax and that LA was the only team he called.

Unreal

I don't throw the word "retard" lightly but this guy...

[Mr. Body]

I think Nico has some of RFK Jr's brain worms.

[Dverde]

What in the actual fuck was the point of the trade then? Is there a link to the BS he's trying to feed people?

If AD was a few years younger, then I could see the trade being a little better and why they wanted to make this trade, but with Anthony Davis' injury history and current age, the return just isn't right. It just doesn't add up at all. 1+1 in this case = 0.

I think their answer is this gives them a better chance this year and next to win. They are drinking the Hardy and Grimes kool aid that they can step up. I don’t agree, it’s a Hail Mary with fragile AD, Kyrie, and Klay.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Spare a thought for Anthony Davis though.

He's being kicked out of the door by the team he threw away his supermax for.
He's going to a team that is rightly being viewed as a laughing stock by everyone in the NBA, their own players included.
He'll play in front of a crowd that's going to boo the fuck out of everyone there.
He'll play for a coach who probably wants to shoot the GM.
His legacy will be that he's been the bad part of the worst trade in NBA history.

And they're supposed to be a contender as well. I bet the camaraderie is going to be awesome.

[LeBowen]

I love it how Harrison is so confident in his GM ability even though the entire world is telling him he's a retard.
Fine, we'll go with that, you made a move and believe AD is a better player in this trade.

But why are you paying ghouls like McMahon to start a relentless smear campaign that keeps shitting on Luka and making up all kind of issues?
If you think AD is a better player, you don't have to shit on the other guy to make yourself look better.

[Ice009]

I think their answer is this gives them a better chance this year and next to win. They are drinking the Hardy and Grimes kool aid that they can step up. I don’t agree, it’s a Hail Mary with fragile AD, Kyrie, and Klay.

If AD was something like 28 years old, I could see the logic behind it as he plays both defense and offense, but man, at his current age for a 2 or so year run, WTF, doesn't make sense what the Mavericks are doing. I mean, after winning it in 2011, didn't they blow it all up looking at the long term and now they're blowing it all up looking at the short term. Screw the long term. This is insane. Will Mavericks fans even turn up to the game?

[DAF86]

bDWps6S7DD0?si=4epY9HqUQqN3UWkl

Dude, if I were a Mavs fan I would be fucking livid right now after hearing this mouth breather trying to justify his stupidity. :lol

[RC_Drunkford]

did Kidd sign off on this?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDWps6S7DD0

[ace3g]

https://x.com/big_business_/status/1886131724993634304

[R. DeMurre]

Kidd didn't look too excited at that press conference.

[dn0774]

If AD was something like 28 years old, I could see the logic behind it as he plays both defense and offense, but man, at his current age for a 2 or so year run, WTF, doesn't make sense what the Mavericks are doing. I mean, after winning it in 2011, didn't they blew it all up looking at the long term and now they're blowing it all up looking at the short term. Screw the long term. This is insane. Will Mavericks fans even turn up to the game?

Even from a short term perspective this move is a loser.

[Mugen]

JKidd looks fucking despondent :lol

[RC_Drunkford]

ok this fuck just said Jason Kidd didn't know anything about it either :lol WTF? "I know the players that he likes" :lmao

[Pero]

yeah short term iit’s a more balanced team tbh


How is it more balanced? The Mavs have no playmaker now. And they were built for Luka, not AD. They possibly have the best frontcourt in the NBA now, but they'd have to change their gameplay completely to utilize it. I don't know that Kidd is capable of that.

[RC_Drunkford]

sounds like a fair deal

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[scott]

https://x.com/KevinOConnorNBA/status/1886131425318981746

Imagine your GM coming out and plainly saying "I don't give a fuck past the next few years because I won't be here" :lol

[baseline bum]

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Not a lie, though we have In N Out in Texas

[Ice009]

Spare a thought for Anthony Davis though.

He's being kicked out of the door by the team he threw away his supermax for.
He's going to a team that is rightly being viewed as a laughing stock by everyone in the NBA, their own players included.
He'll play in front of a crowd that's going to boo the fuck out of everyone there.
He'll play for a coach who probably wants to shoot the GM.
His legacy will be that he's been the bad part of the worst trade in NBA history.

And they're supposed to be a contender as well. I bet the camaraderie is going to be awesome.

Yeah, Anthony Davis is still a great player, but man, he's going to be treated poorly for no fault of his own. I guess I can now not hate on AD as much since he's not a Laker anymore. Back when Kawhi asked out, I thought about who I would want to trade him for if I could hypothetically trade him for anyone in the entire NBA, and as I told a friend of mine back then, Anthony Davis was the only guy I would have done it for. I wouldn't have even traded Kawhi for Lebron back then. Having said that, Anthony Davis was only around 24 back then, though, and there was no chance of the Pelicans trading him. If the Mavs were getting at least a 26-28 year old AD, it wouldn't be that bad of a trade, but this return on a 31 about to turn 32 year old, this, this is not good. How in the F are Mavs fans not rioting. I haven't watched that press conference yet, but if J Kidd didn't even know about it, how in the F was this trade signed off on?

[LeBowen]

Imagine your GM coming out and plainly saying "I don't give a fuck past the next few years because I won't be here" :lol

That's exactly what Magic said, tbf. :lol

[NASpurs]

Imagine your GM coming out and plainly saying "I don't give a fuck past the next few years because I won't be here" :lol

"Eh who knows if we'll be dead in ten years #YOLO"

[Mal]

bDWps6S7DD0?si=4epY9HqUQqN3UWkl

Dude, if I were a Mavs fan I would be fucking livid right now after hearing this mouth breather trying to justify his stupidity. :lol

:smokin

[baseline bum]

Mavs subreddit is having a full-on meltdown and I don't blame them.

This goes to show that even the "untouchables" are truly not that.

Also seems sus that the only team they talked to was the Lakers and their "only target" was an aging Anthony Davis. Dallas is posturing this is as a win-now move, but you take yourself out of win-now mode by trading Luka. Congrats, you are just another middling team in the West.

This seriously feels like there is some collusion going on behind the scenes, but that would be par the course for the Lakers.

It's 100% understandable. I mean if the Spurs traded Wemby out of nowhere without any trade demand for say Brunson I'd just quit being a fan of the team.

[Pero]

Kidd :lol

[baseline bum]

You have to think the Mavs are doing a fast move on the Lakers. Why not offer to every team and get 6 FRP unprotected? Maybe a debilitating injury, fatso has been out on calf injury. Embiid-like lazy on a supermax?? Who knows? Cuban is no dumb businessman.

Cuban had nothing to do with this move and is probably trashing his living room right now. This is all on Miriam Adelson. Couldn't be a more Texas way to shit the bed than having your zionist owner who gave Trump $100 million now wanting to cheap out with one of the few true franchise players in Doncic. :lmao