###Spurs/Grizz Official Game Thread### 7PM SA/3PM Hawaii time

[Bill_Brasky]

Fuck these refs, tbh.

Jackson gets away with initiating so much contact and then Victor ends up with the foul call, so dumb.

[Leetonidas]

These are some bullshit fouls

[LeBowen]

Pay close attention to Devin on defense, he's such a non-factor.

[TekXX]

Why does Wemby insist on this one-legged bullshit?

[Spurs Brazil]

Johnson rotations are damn bad. Why the fuck he sit Castle so early. Castle to the bench and a instant 5-0 Memphis run

[CGD]

Feels like Dev, Keldon, and Jeremy still in there feelings about almost being traded. They’re off today.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Man, this feels like it’s gonna be another 30 point loss

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Memphis role players are superior in every single way.

[100%duncan]

Mitch resting his 20 yr old rookie.

[Pauleta14]

I hope so; it would be nice if Castle was that good and years down the road, Castle is entering his prime as Fox is leaving his. Wemby can have a great point his entire career.

I don't want to jinx him but it's honestly based on rational elements we can already see.

His size, length and athleticism
His poise
His character/"alpha" attitude
His work ethic
His willingness and ability to defend

His present weaknesses are classic at this age and stage and very fixable with time and work

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Why in the world would you pass to Sochan in the corner

[Pauleta14]

Why does Wemby insist on this one-legged bullshit?

Because he's a Parisian.

[Slippy]

Champ doesn't know how play to his limits.

Should never try to playmake or get fancy with passing.

Guaranteed turnover

[LeBowen]

Champ doesn't know how play to his limits.

Should never try to playmake or get fancy with passing.

Guaranteed turnover

Or is it about coaching staff trying to push the "everyone does everything" basketball?

[Spurminator]

Look, I get that you don't want to sound too excited about the other team making a play, but somebody tell Jacob Tobey that you don't have to sound like Eeyore every time the other team scores. Generally I like him but that stuff just feels like an insulting level of homerism.

[Slippy]

Pay close attention to Devin on defense, he's such a non-factor.

He's been mostly on Kennard who's been a non factor so far . His help defense coild be better which is where I think he normally excels at .

Just been too quiet on offense since the first

[scott]

What was the problem everyone had with GG Jackson last year? Was it an attitude thing? I remember him being discussed as a lotto pick to start the year and then he fell to round 2 by the end

[Slippy]

Or is it about coaching staff trying to push the "everyone does everything" basketball?

Hope not . If the case . Thats just crazy. All role players have limtis

[scott]

That was scary for a moment… Wemby seems okay

[BatManu20]

Sochan is so bad right now :lol

[CorrectCrusader]

The tank is back on the table

[TheBallsbreakers]

Fucking GG Jackson you generic create-a-player looking MF

[LeBowen]

He's been mostly on Kennard who's been a non factor so far . His help defense coild be better which is where I think he nitmally excels at .

Just been too quiet on offense since the first

For me it's mostly about him being absolutely clueless on how to box out, he just lets his man run by him and crash the glass every single time.


This game was lost with that unexplainable lineup in the second quarter.

[Dex]

Well, fuck Jackson for the rest of his life

[CGD]

Why in the world would you pass to Sochan in the corner

Well he made the 3. The shot looks like it’s regressed tho, looked like a two hand push shot again.

[Pauleta14]

Sean just stop breathing until he saw Wemby was ok :lol

[Floyd Pacquiao]

:lol the players Brian Wrong has drafted are so fucking low IQ, they’ve already got Wemby hurt now. Does that stupid fuck not give them a wonderlic test before drafting these dumb fucks ?

[CGD]

Jermey’s second made three looked nice

[CorrectCrusader]

Jermey’s second made three looked nice

Yeah it had no hitch. I was like "wtf"

[onechance87]

Terrible day...Spurs looking like trash as always,Atl wins,Kings wins...Just hoping suns lose today.
Would be embarassing if we dont even make the play in.

[scott]

Honestly can’t believe we managed to win the third quarter. We might get lucky and pull one out if MEM runs out of gas and Wemby or Castle go nuclear in the 4th

[Obstructed_View]

:lol the players Brian Wrong has drafted are so fucking low IQ, they’ve already got Wemby hurt now. Does that stupid fuck not give them a wonderlic test before drafting these dumb fucks ?
For some reason, the Spurs don't seem to want guys who can shoot the basketball. They'd rather trade a lottery puck than risk acquiring someone who can make a long jumpshot consistently.

[scott]

Find a way to steal MEM’s SRP scouting board, tbh

[slick'81]

Fox can't get here soon enough

[Obstructed_View]

That's about all the dumb basketball I can stand to watch. Good night, everybody.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

For some reason, the Spurs don't seem to want guys who can shoot the basketball. They'd rather trade a lottery puck than risk acquiring someone who can make a long jumpshot consistently.
They think cause kawhi developed a jump shot that all these non shooters they drafted will develop one too :lol

[LeBowen]

Jeremy's processing power is really low. He looked up to see if he can pass it to Devin and lost the handle in the process.

[Dex]

Sochan may have the worst dribble in the league, tbh

[LeBowen]

Bassey's knee gone again.

[slick'81]

Bassey blew out another leg?

[Bill_Brasky]

Bassey down......

[NASpurs]

Time to trade for a big.

[scott]

Damn, that was scary with CBass

[BatManu20]

Legit thought Bassey tore his ACL again there based on his reaction. Popped back and shooting FT's now thankfully.

[Dex]

Wemby needs to watch tape of Edey on how you set up for a lob

[TheBallsbreakers]

This team is still bad, bad.

[Bill_Brasky]

For some reason, the Spurs don't seem to want guys who can shoot the basketball. They'd rather trade a lottery puck than risk acquiring someone who can make a long jumpshot consistently.

Even a guy who can shoot like Vassell inexplicably starts sucking

[scott]

I mean, we still need to trade for another C… but I’m really glad Charles is okay

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Well he made the 3. The shot looks like it’s regressed tho, looked like a two hand push shot again.

Yeah, in fairness he did hit them. His form has gone back to being wonky but I like that doesn’t force it

[Pauleta14]

Mem is +16 and Wemby is +12...

[Uriel]

Man, I remember when draft pundits were saying Zach Edey wouldn’t make it in the NBA because he was a dinosaur who played an extinct position.

[Mugen]

Worst matchup in the league for us.

But we are literally one of the dumbest teams I’ve ever seen. I legit can’t believe the old man actually played Sochan at PG for half a season.

[Bill_Brasky]

Man, I remember when draft pundits were saying Zach Edey wouldn’t make it in the NBA because he was a dinosaur who played an extinct position.

We make him look better than he is but yeah. Good teams would run him off the court tbh

[LeBowen]

5-15 and 1-6 from 3pt for Devin.
If there's any team willing to give us positive value for him, get it done.

[Robz4000]

Please tank.

[Spurs Brazil]

Vassell is terrible. Amazing how bad he playing this season

[Mugen]

The weekend trade made me forget how much we actually suck :lol

[Splits]

Assheline is ass

[Pauleta14]

It's not just misses that are annoying with Vassell, it's mostly the stupid decision-making.

He makes those at a high rate

[slick'81]

Memphis owns our asses

[scott]

5-15 and 1-6 from 3pt for Devin.
If there's any team willing to give us positive value for him, get it done.

It’s Draven Vasselline’s last game as the highest paid player in Spurs history. Had to put in one last classic performance. B- incoming from timvp

[spursfan 73]

Mitch, take notes…you can challenge calls against your star player.

[Robz4000]

Grizz also clearly have it out for the Spurs tbh. I'd understand if any of these guys were on the Grizz 7-10 years ago but :lol...

[LeBowen]

It's not just misses that are annoying with Vassell, it's mostly the stupid decision-making.

He makes those at a high rate

His defense is Forbes-level atrocious, he's somehow always out of position and late.
That kind of player isn't worth keeping unless he's a let's say Clarkson/Lou type scorer.
Devin is completely redundant with Fox/Castle guard duo.

[LeBowen]

It’s Draven Vasselline’s last game as the highest paid player in Spurs history. Had to put in one last classic performance. B- incoming from timvp

This is your fault. Shouldn't have changed your avatar, tbh.

[Uriel]

Devin just hasn’t been the same since he broke his foot. Is it the same injury that wrecked James Anderson’s career?

[Mugen]

The Kings trade grade should be downgraded for failing to include Vassell tbh :lol

[Pauleta14]

:lmao at all the "thank you BW, we didn't have to give up Vassell in the Fox trade"...


I wish SAC insisted a bit more to have him instead of Lavine

[Larry O]

Wait. What?! The call stood for Wemby!

[scott]

This is your fault. Shouldn't have changed your avatar, tbh.

Tough but fair

[Splits]

11 points on 15 shots and no FTs wtf

[onechance87]

5-15 and 1-6 from 3pt for Devin.
If there's any team willing to give us positive value for him, get it done.

his ass needs to go back to the bench....dont deserve to be starting.Hes the main reason why we are so bad this season.

[LakerHater]

Mitch still sucks

[Bill_Brasky]

All you can do is laugh, tbh. Get Wemby outta there.

[LeBowen]

Tough but fair

Btw, Murphy has 39 on 19 shots in Denver.

[slick'81]

Sours are ass juice

[Ditty]

I rather have traded Vassell rather than our 2027 pick even if if will probably be in the late 20's.

[Manu-of-steel]

Wemby, please, you're not a point guard. You always turn the ball over when you try to do that

[Pauleta14]

Just take Wemby out ffs, there's no point today

[Larry O]

SMH. The Spurs are all standing around while the Grizz rebound and score..

[Bill_Brasky]

Nah, no need to play Mamu any more than you do, Mitch. He hasn't shown you anything.

[TekXX]

I rather have traded Vassell rather than our 2027 pick even if if will probably be in the late 20's.

Would you trade for Vassell?

[skin27]

Stupid loss. Vassel should be traded

[Bill_Brasky]

I've only see this LaRavia guy for 2 seconds and I can already tell he's better than anybody in the friendship krew.

[Ditty]

Would you trade for Vassell?

might be useful off the bench if he wasn't getting paid $30 million a year

[Strategic]

Vassell, KJ and Champ combined 8 for 29. I don’t get it.

[Atl Spur]

Where’s all the Edey jokes? Asking for a friend….

[BackHome]

Devin just hasn’t been the same since he broke his foot. Is it the same injury that wrecked James Anderson’s career?

No I believe it was a different bone

[onechance87]

might be useful off the bench if he wasn't getting paid $30 million a year

At this point its gotta be done.Beal making 50 million a year coming off the bench.Vassell dont deserve to be starting.
Bring champ back in the starting lineup.

[timtonymanu]

Assell sucks as the 2nd option as usual and of course Keldon goes back to crap when he knows his spot isn’t in jeopardy.

[Slippy]

I rather have traded Vassell rather than our 2027 pick even if if will probably be in the late 20's.

As disappointing as DVs has been of late, unless you getting another shooter back that will be part of the rotation id hold back on that trade. It would kill the spurs spacing even more.

EG whrn Memphis were doubling Victor today in the post. It wasn't DVs man leaving him on the entry pass. Main reason why he gets paired with vic. Ths team needs more shooters.

Main reason we lost. Turnovers & the lineup featuring Jeremy/ charles at centre aint working. Spurs gettinf hammered on boards especially when Vic goes out so early. On offense need more shooters that can connect.

[BatManu20]

Wemby looked perpetually gassed tonight too. Looked out of breath from the jump.

[DAF86]

Wemby looked perpetually gassed tonight too. Looked out of breath from the jump.

Makes sense with the allergies. I hope they find a solution to that fast.

[Raven]

thought the team looked on with the triple defender lineup, but still not enough

[ffadicted]

The most disgusting post I’ve ever posted: today’s non garbage minutes +/-


PLUS CATEGORY
Wemby +8


MINUS CATEGORY:
Julian -21
Barnes -20
Keldon -18
Vassell -16
Bassey -16
Wesley -7
Sochan -5
Castle -5
Paul 0


Fox please bring this man some help

[Jordan Jackson]

The Kings knew better than to take any of the Spurs players. They’re not that stupid.

That Johnson/Sochan/Vassell lineup aka Power of Friendship crew is awful to watch and their collective BBIQ is rock bottom.

On a brighter side. Castle is looking really good. Already seeing some improvement.

[Spurs Homer]

Too bad vassell wasnt traded…there is still time though…is forbes available?

[scott]

Btw, Murphy has 39 on 19 shots in Denver.

Of the 16 teams who did not draft Trey first, only about 6 have a good excuse.

We, on the other hand, drafted Josh Primo.

[Ditty]

Makes sense with the allergies. I hope they find a solution to that fast.

Hopefully he finds out or knows what he allergic too. Allergies suck so bad in SA.

I apperantly live with a low grade sinus infection that fucks me up every few months that I need steriods to make me feel better.

[spursistan]

Getting bitchslapped again by Memphis on a B2B after they embarrassed us twice on our home court is all you need to know about this team's pride and mentality from the Coaching staff to the players :lol

[SpursBills]

Wrong thread

[BatManu20]

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[onechance87]

Getting bitchslapped again by Memphis on a B2B after they embarrassed us twice on our home court is all you need to know about this team's pride and mentality from the Coaching staff to the players :lol

This is on vassell...Hes our highest paid player.Dude is a loser.He has no heart.

[Knoxxx]

Setting side that Paul must move to the bench, GG and JJ going off on us underscore the next priority: getting Wemby more help in the front court.

[SpursGenius]

This is on vassell...Hes our highest paid player.Dude is a loser.He has no heart.
Keldon close second salary wise. Sux worse

[onechance87]

Keldon close second salary wise. Sux worse

yea...but alot of us didnt expect much from keldon.We expected vassell to have a big year and grow with wemby
to make this team improve and be good.The opposite is happening.Hes having a terrible year and now hurting this team.

[Knoxxx]

None of KJ, Sochan, or Vassell are consistent enough to be starting for the Spurs currently.

[Splits]

Of the 16 teams who did not draft Trey first, only about 6 have a good excuse.

We, on the other hand, drafted Josh Primo.

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=298643

[spursparker9]

Back to reality guys.

:lol It was nice to dream about acquiring Fox in the past few days.

But tbh, even with Fox, it is a very very long shot to get into the playoffs this year. Might as well tank.

[SpursGenius]

Back to reality guys.

:lol It was nice to dream about acquiring Fox in the past few days.

But tbh, even with Fox, it is a very very long shot to get into the playoffs this year. Might as well tank.
Yes. This team is devoid of talent other than the big 2.

[ginobilized]

Memphis is one of the toughest matchups for us height and physicality-wise.
GG Jackson, Aldama, Bane, Clarke and JJJ are too much for Wemby to defend alone. KJ, Barnes, Vassell et al are not built to dominate these matchups.

The grit'n'grind seems to ignite Castle, however. We need more size, discipline and a cogent f-ing plan to win these kind of games. Just not there yet.

[Ice009]

This is on vassell...Hes our highest paid player.Dude is a loser.He has no heart.

Devin's not a loser. I put much more stock in 1 playoff/play-in game that 50 regular season games. A lot of players (even good/great players) don't always show up in the playoffs. When the Spurs made the play-in a few years ago, Devin is the only guy that showed up and played well for the Spurs.
Dejounte 5-19, Keldon 6-20. Devin top scored for the Spurs on the road with 7-13 from three point range. He showed me real mental toughness that game. I was disappointed with other guys that game, but not Devin. I don't know what is going on this season, but I expected more from him. Not sure if it's the foot injury and consequent surgery that has set him back and he's still adjusting coming back from that, or if that foot isn't right since then, or something else, but he's shown me more than this in the past.


Yes. This team is devoid of talent other than the big 2.

Who do you classify as the big 2? Are you including Fox in that, or just the players that where on the team prior to the Fox trade?