Shams: Spurs Acquire Patrick Baldwin Jr. from Milwaukee

[BatManu20]

Weird trade tbh. He kinda sucks.

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[stephen jackson]

who

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Homeless man Cam Johnson. Fits into the remaining of the Room exception. Probably gets waived.

Now hope they go for the real Cam Johnson.

[BatManu20]

who

End of the bench scrub who's averaging 2 ppg. Weird trade unless there's more coming.

[Spursfanfromafar]

This dude was a bust everywhere he played including college, right? Weird trade. Unless it's a precursor for something else?

[CGD]

This guy was highly ranked in High School, and then cratered in college. Think something to do with his dad. Seems like its all between the ears bc the talent was there.

But in reality this is probably a $$ move.

[Mnky]

My boy coming home. :lobt2:

[NASpurs]

Does he play center?

[baseline bum]

who

cash to get MIL under the second apron probably

[Leetonidas]

Yawn

[r0drig0lac]

power shift

[stephen jackson]

Homeless man Cam Johnson. Fits into the remaining of the Room exception. Probably gets waived.

Now hope they go for the real Cam Johnson.
if we can pull cam off that would be a perfect trade deadline, we need a shooting scorer still so bad, that 3rd qt was brutal

[BatManu20]

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[Mr. Body]

Hey, free player.

I remember draft discussions. His dad coached him in college or something to give him as many shots as he wanted and he was effing terrible and got drafted on supposed upside or whatever. He sucks.

[Duncan2177]

This team needs a big man to backup Wemby not another SF/PF. :lol

[BatManu20]

Homeless man Cam Johnson. Fits into the remaining of the Room exception. Probably gets waived.

Now hope they go for the real Cam Johnson.

Probably the best way to describe him. Looks like the Spurs may have just been doing MIL a favor with this deal.

[thiste]

:spless:

[Guru of Nothing]

The Lonely Ball Pit of Patrick Baldwin Jr.

[Cardinal]

Can his salary be rerouted in a trade for a big? I would think that’s what’s going on

[Bruno]

I hope Spurs got Lessort NBA's rights.

[mudyez]

Which one is it? https://media.gettyimages.com/id/106810916/de/foto/los-angeles-ca-actors-and-brothers-william-baldwin-stephen-baldwin-alec-baldwin-and-daniel.jpg?s=612x612&w=0&k=20&c=JOrcTOUAsqlXKv4Uv-XrWljk1dpHy_FOPPpOncu4A88=

[tonight...you]

Which one is it? https://media.gettyimages.com/id/106810916/de/foto/los-angeles-ca-actors-and-brothers-william-baldwin-stephen-baldwin-alec-baldwin-and-daniel.jpg?s=612x612&w=0&k=20&c=JOrcTOUAsqlXKv4Uv-XrWljk1dpHy_FOPPpOncu4A88=

The one with the squinty eyes.

[rankingtear]

Ugliest player in the league.

[Arguendo]

Homeless man Cam Johnson. Fits into the remaining of the Room exception. Probably gets waived.

Now hope they go for the real Cam Johnson.
Seriously doubt he's waived if we just paid cash plus I'm assuming his $4.42M option has been picked up.

Never heard of him, but turned 22 in November. Officially measured a 6'9.25 w/o shoes, 7'1.75 wingspan. Good size & good rebound for a 3, but that may be it.

Scouting report from Draft calls him a former top 10 class recruit, lacks athleticism and explosiveness, tested poorly at combine/one of lowest verts ever recorded, stiff laterally, but good ball-handler for size, decent on glass, uses length well, not bad running the floor/long strider and adequately mobile, high release=difficult to block
Bad shooter in one year in college 26.6% on 5.8 3pa, better in G-league 34.8% on 6.1, better in NBA but 91 games across 3 years @ 36.6% on 2.2 (8.9 per/36).
Warriors drafted hit at 28th in 22'.

Sounds like a cheap flyer with potential contract trade value.
Spurs look to be piling up young projects on smallish expirings, Bran @ $4.96M, Blake @ $4.73M, Bassey $2.5M, now Baldwin @ $4.42M. The 1st rounders all come with bird rights, don't know about Bassey.
$16.61M in expirings with at least some potential, could be very very useful in facilitating multi-team trades

[Bruno]

If it's just a financial trade, it would be a little disappointing that Spurs are still doing that. I hope there is a second round pick involved, or, even better, the draft rights to Mathias Lessort who will solved out backup C issue.

[Bruno]

Seriously doubt he's waived if we just paid cash plus I'm assuming his $4.42M option has been picked up.

His option hasn't been picked up.

[Chinook]

Another let-down deadline for the Spurs. Wright never seems to want to make a deal.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Seriously doubt he's waived if we just paid cash plus I'm assuming his $4.42M option has been picked up.


His option hasn't been picked up, he's expiring. Also the Spurs didn't pay cash, they received cash from Bucks. Basically Bucks are paying his salary + some additional cash to the Spurs, in return they save a lot of luxury tax money and probably a top 55 protected 2nd round pick from the Spurs. It's a pretty standard financial trade.

Unless for some weird reason they've been huge fans of him in the draft process a couple of years ago I don't see the Spurs keeping him.

[YoungbuckMurray]

Another let-down deadline for the Spurs. Wright never seems to want to make a deal.

they literally just brought in Fox lol

[RC_Drunkford]

I guess we waive him or package him in another move

[Arguendo]

*Nevermind- I'd read the trade wrong and assumed his option had been picked up.**
Seems like a very Spursy move. Help a team in the East, add a 25-26' expiring that could help make a trade for you or get you an asset in a multi-team deal in this complex, double apron CBA world.
Take a flyer on a young, tall, cheap player for 1/2 a season that maybe has some potential, but really they bought a 26' expiring contract.
And shit, he could just be a top 3/5 shooter with legit size on this team tomorrow, but that's less about him than the roster.

[spurraider21]

they literally just brought in Fox lol
that one went over your head i guess

[Arguendo]

If it's just a financial trade, it would be a little disappointing that Spurs are still doing that. I hope there is a second round pick involved, or, even better, the draft rights to Mathias Lessort who will solved out backup C issue.
Makes sense, I saw it or read it as Baldwin for cash. Instead its prolly a fake 2nd going back to Mil.

[TVI]

Did you forget to use the blue sarcasm font?

[Dverde]

:lol his nickname is a sandwich PB&J

[Arguendo]

His option hasn't been picked up, he's expiring. Also the Spurs didn't pay cash, they received cash from Bucks. Basically Bucks are paying his salary + some additional cash to the Spurs, in return they save a lot of luxury tax money and probably a top 55 protected 2nd round pick from the Spurs. It's a pretty standard financial trade.

Unless for some weird reason they've been huge fans of him in the draft process a couple of years ago I don't see the Spurs keeping him.
Yeah, thanks. I read it/heard it wrong from a live stream. Thought we sent cash. Still I'd rather have this guy on the roster than Keldon. Hopefully his expiring + Keldon is flipped for a C in the next 2hrs.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Brian Wrong is an asshole if he fails to trade keldon Johnson for fucking anybody

[mo7888]

Seriously doubt he's waived if we just paid cash plus I'm assuming his $4.42M option has been picked up.

Never heard of him, but turned 22 in November. Officially measured a 6'9.25 w/o shoes, 7'1.75 wingspan. Good size & good rebound for a 3, but that may be it.

Scouting report from Draft calls him a former top 10 class recruit, lacks athleticism and explosiveness, tested poorly at combine/one of lowest verts ever recorded, stiff laterally, but good ball-handler for size, decent on glass, uses length well, not bad running the floor/long strider and adequately mobile, high release=difficult to block
Bad shooter in one year in college 26.6% on 5.8 3pa, better in G-league 34.8% on 6.1, better in NBA but 91 games across 3 years @ 36.6% on 2.2 (8.9 per/36).
Warriors drafted hit at 28th in 22'.

Sounds like a cheap flyer with potential contract trade value.
Spurs look to be piling up young projects on smallish expirings, Bran @ $4.96M, Blake @ $4.73M, Bassey $2.5M, now Baldwin @ $4.42M. The 1st rounders all come with bird rights, don't know about Bassey.
$16.61M in expirings with at least some potential, could be very very useful in facilitating multi-team trades

Pretty sure we received the cash.

[Dverde]

Brian Wrong is an asshole if he fails to trade keldon Johnson for fucking anybody

They could swap him for Capela. KJ will ensure the tank continues on.

[Obstructed_View]

The Lonely Ball Pit of Patrick Baldwin Jr.

Better hurry.

[scott]

Just doing a favor for another team, in hopes it comes full circle later. I assume we waive him and his salary gets covered by the cash MIL is sending us. No harm, no foul, and we earn points for doing MIL a favor. Solid work by Brian, tbh.

UNLESS... we are going to move Keldon for a C and Baldwin is just a free flier on some SF depth that literally costs us nothing.

Either way, this is the kind of minor, on the fringe deal that helps grease the wheels for Brian down the road. I'm sure the fact that Brian has done SAC several favors as of late played a role in our getting Fox. That's the way to look at this.

PS: Baldwin sucks.

[R. DeMurre]

https://www.cbs58.com/news/pat-baldwin-jr-dubbed-nations-top-high-school-prospect

It wasn't all that long ago that some people were predicting he could be a #1 pick in the draft, but he never recovered from a disappointing injury filled freshman season in college.

[Spurminator]

That's the dude from American Psycho right?

[Spursfanfromafar]

Mike Finger of SAEN says he will be waived before the deadline.

[weeks]

they literally just brought in Fox lol

Even I recognize that as sarcasm

[Devi8or]

This was probably a favor to Milwaukee for Chris Paul getting under Giannis thin skin, call it even I guess

[Ice009]

If it's just a financial trade, it would be a little disappointing that Spurs are still doing that. I hope there is a second round pick involved, or, even better, the draft rights to Mathias Lessort who will solved out backup C issue.

Oh, wow, do they have his draft rights? That would be amazing if they got them as I wanted Spurs to sign either Yabusele or Mathias after the Olympics if either was available. I thought Mathias was under contract, though, and couldn't be signed?

[Bruno]

Oh, wow, do they have his draft rights? That would be amazing if they got them as I wanted Spurs to sign either Yabusele or Mathias after the Olympics if either was available. I thought Mathias was under contract, though, and couldn't be signed?

They got his draft rights literally yesterday in a trade with Knicks.
Right now, he is under contract and injured (he broke his leg) but he would be a great option for this summer.

[sfernald]

No second round pick for this favor? Must be a precursor to a Bobby Portis trade?

[Ice009]

They got his draft rights literally yesterday in a trade with Knicks.
Right now, he is under contract and injured (he broke his leg) but he would be a great option for this summer.

Oh right, well that changes things. If they got his draft rights yesterday, then maybe they wanted them for themselves. I'd still take him next summer, but maybe they asked for his draft rights with the intention of bringing him over next seasin?

[Splits]

They got his draft rights literally yesterday in a trade with Knicks.
Right now, he is under contract and injured (he broke his leg) but he would be a great option for this summer.

Read his NBA opt-out is only for 2027

[sananspursfan21]

This is huge. It’s a shame that the Fox trade will forever be overshadowed and remembered as this move’s little brother.

Anyway, :lobt: here we come!

[Splits]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GjHv9TLbcAAqb1o?format=jpg&name=900x900

[Bruno]

https://bsky.app/profile/fredkatz.bsky.social/post/3lhjv2wq6c22w
Spurs received $4.13M in cash in this trade.

This season teams are allowed to received up to $7.24M in cash during trades and Spurs have reached this limit.
They received:
- $1M from Indiana for the Furphy for Nunez swap.
- $110K from Charlotte when they dumped Devonte Graham to make the trade legal.
- $2M from Kings in the Jalen McDaniels salary dump trade.
- $4.13M in this trade.

Over the last 2 season combined, Spurs have received $14.29M in cash during trades and send $0.

I guess every dollar count...

[scott]

Spurs Legend Patrick Baldwin. Looking forward to the tribute video.

[Seventyniner]

https://bsky.app/profile/fredkatz.bsky.social/post/3lhjv2wq6c22w
Spurs received $4.13M in cash in this trade.

This season teams are allowed to received up to $7.24M in cash during trades and Spurs have reached this limit.
They received:
- $1M from Indiana for the Furphy for Nunez swap.
- $110K from Charlotte when they dumped Devonte Graham to make the trade legal.
- $2M from Kings in the Jalen McDaniels salary dump trade.
- $4.13M in this trade.

Over the last 2 season combined, Spurs have received $14.29M in cash during trades and send $0.

I guess every dollar count...

Ugh, I don't like that precedent. Doesn't sound like the type of ownership that will stay in tax territory to maximize Wemby's career. I hope to be proven wrong and that they only hoarded cash like that because the team was terrible anyway.

[Spursfanfromafar]

Ugh, I don't like that precedent. Doesn't sound like the type of ownership that will stay in tax territory to maximize Wemby's career. I hope to be proven wrong and that they only hoarded cash like that because the team was terrible anyway.

Or exactly the kind of ownership that hoards cash / invests and uses this when they have to pay luxury tax in Wemby's prime?

[scott]

Ugh, I don't like that precedent. Doesn't sound like the type of ownership that will stay in tax territory to maximize Wemby's career. I hope to be proven wrong and that they only hoarded cash like that because the team was terrible anyway.

The Furphy deal is the only one that bugs me, but only barely. The McDaniels and Baldwin deals are just good business. They didn't prevent us from doing anything else, we did a favor for another team, and in the case of McDaniels we actually got assets back (in the form of a SRP).

The Furphy trade is the only one that bugs me because we clearly didn't have much interest in picking a guy in the second round when there were some useful players available (Ajay Mitchell and Jaylen Wells are the two that come to mind immediately). Maybe it's because the Spurs were still wanting to see what they had in Blake and Bran, but the reporting around the draft was that the Spurs were solely focused on guys who would take a two-way. Clearly there were some good players available (and Ajay himself is on a two-way), but the Spurs didn't think they were good enough and were more interested in getting cash (and they've done this multiple years now) and punting.

[Arguendo]

The Furphy deal is the only one that bugs me, but only barely.
The Furphy trade is the only one that bugs me because we clearly didn't have much interest in picking a guy in the second round when there were some useful players available (Ajay Mitchell and Jaylen Wells are the two that come to mind immediately). Maybe it's because the Spurs were still wanting to see what they had in Blake and Bran, but the reporting around the draft was that the Spurs were solely focused on guys who would take a two-way. Clearly there were some good players available (and Ajay himself is on a two-way), but the Spurs didn't think they were good enough and were more interested in getting cash (and they've done this multiple years now) and punting.

I'm really hopeful that was some combo of roster construction, wanting to see exactly what they had, and not loving anyone that was still available.

I really wanted Ajay and was super excited when Furphy fell, but from the FO perspective it really seems like they wanted to know what they had in Blake/Bran & Sidy (who Pop reportedly dreams about) + Champ w/Vassell, knowing they already had to develop Castle and likely knowing Paul was on the way w/Tre as his backup.
Add in Keldon & Sochan (both who Pop loves), and their simply weren't any minutes 1-3.
Plus, its clear they wanted more vet presence (Barnes) to help Wemby, so needed the roster spot hence the two-way talk and that vet got them a free asset. From that POV, I'd rather have that Sac swap then Furphy (but would've rather cut Sidy for Furphy).

[ChumpDumper]

https://bsky.app/profile/fredkatz.bsky.social/post/3lhjv2wq6c22w
Spurs received $4.13M in cash in this trade.

This season teams are allowed to received up to $7.24M in cash during trades and Spurs have reached this limit.
They received:
- $1M from Indiana for the Furphy for Nunez swap.
- $110K from Charlotte when they dumped Devonte Graham to make the trade legal.
- $2M from Kings in the Jalen McDaniels salary dump trade.
- $4.13M in this trade.

Over the last 2 season combined, Spurs have received $14.29M in cash during trades and send $0.

I guess every dollar count...

Hell yeah. Make that money when you can -- spend it when you have to.

[lefty20]

Ugh, I don't like that precedent. Doesn't sound like the type of ownership that will stay in tax territory to maximize Wemby's career. I hope to be proven wrong and that they only hoarded cash like that because the team was terrible anyway.

Iirc, we were a tax team for the duration BIG 3s Chip window in the mid-late 2000s. We once again became a tax team during Nephew's window mid-late 2010s before he bolted. I don't see any reason to assume that we won't do the same for the Wemby/Fox window.

[scott]

Honestly though there shouldn't be a pressing reason for us to be a tax team until Wemby's second extension, unless Castle breaks out into a max rookie extension player himself and/or our upcoming draft pick develops into a rookie-max worthy player.

[ChumpDumper]

It's nice to have this kind of cyclical plan to guide a franchise's decisions. The No-Limit teams have been historically bad decision makers. Look at the Knicks up until the new CBA and now, Adels:loln.

[Seventyniner]

Honestly though there shouldn't be a pressing reason for us to be a tax team until Wemby's second extension, unless Castle breaks out into a max rookie extension player himself and/or our upcoming draft pick develops into a rookie-max worthy player.

That would be what you call a high quality problem.

[BoricuaCJA]

We need a big man to help Wemby. We struggle on defense when Wemby is not on the floor. We have nobody to protect the rim imo.

[cjw]

Ugh, I don't like that precedent. Doesn't sound like the type of ownership that will stay in tax territory to maximize Wemby's career. I hope to be proven wrong and that they only hoarded cash like that because the team was terrible anyway.

If you’re a GM and you’re not maximizing every dollar your disposal, you’re not doing your job. This is $14 million (minus the salaries incurred) the ownership group can now spend in a future season that without these moves they wouldn’t have. It’s smart business.

Spurs will be a tax team when they compete but given the new CBA won’t be stupid about it as it seriously has repercussions now beyond just money.

[Mnky]

Welp, guess we're tanking for Flagg after all.

[exstatic]

Welp, guess we're tanking for Flagg after all.

Because we didn’t keep peanut butter and jelly?

[Mnky]

Because we didn’t keep peanut butter and jelly?

He was the future. :pctoss

[Knoxxx]

He was the future. :pctoss

Did you just troll him hard without him realizing he was walking right into it! WOW

[ginobilized]

We need a big man to help Wemby. We struggle on defense when Wemby is not on the floor. We have nobody to protect the rim imo.

At the risk of toxic positivity, I think you might be missing the fact that we actually have a lot of somebodys that don't protect the rim.