Game Thread: Spurs @ Magic - Sat. 2/8/2025 -- 6:00pm CST (2:00am RIGA; 2:00pm Hawaii)

[spursistan]

Fox really seems to love Castle, good to have that support
Yeah noticed how he is always first to prop him up

[heyheymymy]

Champ needs C&S features in the playcall. He needs to start to create windows to shoot off the magnitude of Wemby and Fox.

It is a total waste to not utilize his deep threat to create spacing and lanes.

[Knoxxx]

How to the refs miss the most obvious offensive foul in history on Goga there?

Not sure when pushing off with the off arm blatantly became legal, maybe once Giannis made it his go to move. Wonder if a challenge would have gotten refs to admit their guilt on that one.

[Guru of Nothing]

Oof

[heyheymymy]

Jermey gotta let that three fly

[LeBowen]

:lmao
Always with these last second passes to Jeremy.

[Robz4000]

:lmao Fucking hell Sochan

[spursistan]

Horrible end to the quarter

[TheBallsbreakers]

Sochan at the three point line for last shot of the quarter
No bueno

[Degoat]

Sochan sucks, I’m not even mad at him on offense it’s expected but did y’all see how much space he gave Wagner on that 3 wtf

[BatManu20]

Sochan you dumbass :lol

[Robz4000]

Magic gonna pull this out in the fourth. Spurs missed their chance imo.

[Splits]

lol Sochan nice clock awareness

[Tyronn Lue]

He's running some clock, they have the lead

[Slippy]

Jeremy yiu just undid your good work on d.

No fuking idea bout the clock. Inexcusable! Had plenty of time to work it out

[onechance87]

stop playing keldon man

[spursparker9]

I don't know who is dumber. Sochan, Champagine or KJ

[pRoshi]

Keldon and Sochan cannot be on the same court together, the team IQ tanks.

[ginobilized]

I'm hoping Fox wakes up and gets it going in the 4th

The defensive pressure from the Magic is bothering us

[scott]

You're being doubled... but your only outlet pass is Jeremy Sochan on the 3PT line... can't blame Dev for some of those tough shots, tbh

[Splits]

wtf why is Wemby on the bench to start the 4th? he only played the last 2 min of the 3rd

[BatManu20]

Vassell is carrying right now

[heyheymymy]

NASTY MOVE BY CASTLE!!!

[scott]

Need to force Devin to watch 5 consecutive hours of tape featuring Derrick White taking charges... my man... you literally just have to stand there when you see Franz coming at you... why you jumping OUT of the way?

[BackHome]

OMG Castle is Legit

[BatManu20]

Put Wemby back in. It's a layup line for Wagner right now

[vy65]

Stephon Castle is fucking disgusting

[spursparker9]

Castle has shade of D-Wade/D-Rose tbh. That absurd quick 1st step and the fake

[TE]

Damn... Castle :wow

[Spurs Brazil]

Castle big dunk.

Now play some defense do close this game.

[BatManu20]

Castle is a fuckin' dawgggg

[z0sa]

Funny how effective some of these back to the basket moves are

[AusSpur]

Love how Steph stares everyone down who he dunks on.

[skin27]

Castle

[mo7888]

Franz is a problem..

[spursparker9]

Love how Steph stares everyone down who he dunks on.

Yes, no chest pounding or screaming. Just ice cold dead eye stare :lol

[ginobilized]

Lots to love about Stephon

All Business all the time

[vy65]

Love how Steph stares everyone down who he dunks on.

He’s an asshole. Underrated part of his game.

[ginobilized]

Franz would be an awesome HB replacement
It won't ever happen, likely, but he'd be an awesome Spur

[scott]

Mitch saving his challenges for Monday

[AusSpur]

Mitch Johnson is such a challenge pussy

[BatManu20]

Franz is a problem..

He's very good but he's also going up against guys a lot smaller than him when Wemby's not on the floor and he feasts on them. Wemby should be taking that personally though and swatting his shit when he's near the rim.

[heyheymymy]

Banchero mismatch on CP3 is shades of Bridges mismatch on CP3 just last night

[Larry O]

Thank goodness the Magic are missing their FT or else the score would be closer. SMH...

[Robz4000]

:lmao Magic bullying the Spurs

[Degoat]

Man wtf is with wembys defense lately!?!?

[z0sa]

CP3 getting dominated again

[Mal]

layup after layup after layup

[spursparker9]

Not too late to tank

[LeBowen]

They just keep switching on CP3.

I know Wemby is all about ethical basketball, but a hard foul here and there wouldn't hurt, it's not like Wagner is perfect from the line.

[Spurs Brazil]

They are going at Paul every single time

[Robz4000]

Thank goodness the Magic are missing their FT or else the score would be closer. SMH...

If the Magic could hit their freethrows this game would be over tbh.

[spursparker9]

Man wtf is with wembys defense lately!?!?

Out of gas

[Manu-of-steel]

Whats with the midget line up? Mitch! Come on

[Slippy]

Vic is sleepwalking out there on d . Thats twice now where magic players danced around with ease for layups.

spurs overall d making Wanger look unstoppable

[spursparker9]

:lol Mitch is betting CP3 being the all time 3rd most steals stats to lock down his man

[AusSpur]

Whats with the midget line up? Mitch! Come on

Those oompa loompas stick together

[onechance87]

thats sum weak d from wemby

[scott]

So frustrating to watch our guys pass up open layups to kick it out for 3...

[onechance87]

overplaying cp3 rn

[heyheymymy]

shit even Black is a problem for Paul

[spursparker9]

So frustrating to watch our guys pass up open layups to kick it out for 3...

Well...3pts > 2pts. :lol

[heyheymymy]

They're trying to hide CP3 on KCP

[Frenchfred]

overplaying cp3 rn
I agree, I know that we want to be nice to him but he already played 26 minutes

[Manu-of-steel]

Vassell fo CP0 pls

[LeBowen]

Wemby half-assing it again.

[spursistan]

Castle is the Alpha dog of this team

[spursparker9]

I think let's get Wemby out of the game tbh

His reaction is slow

[heyheymymy]

man what is Wemby doing? either don't touch it or corral it

[Slippy]

Vic getting fancy with that 1 hand rebound again.wtf

[scott]

HB and Vassell coming up huge!

[LeBowen]

Alright, he redeemed himself with that block.

Don't fuck this up now.

[vy65]

Steph Castle

[heyheymymy]

Devin PYRITE game

11-13, 3-4 for 25 pts

[Spurs Brazil]

Castle with some great D.

[spursparker9]

Vassell giving a good cock-teasing performance as a legit 2nd option game :lol

[BatManu20]

Nice sequence there. Now let's pull away from these pricks.

[TheBallsbreakers]

Wemby with 4 steals and 5 blocks.

[Slippy]

Thank fuk Steph, Harrison & Devin. Came ready to play.
Some of these other spurs are just playing carefree and careless

[scott]

Also shout out to Mitch for having the right lineup in right now. Fox/Castle/Vassell/HB/Wemby

Keep this until the end of the game unless the situation calls for Sochan defense

[heyheymymy]

insane

Barnes + Vassell = 10-14 from three combined

[LeBowen]

Point Banchero experiment is going about as well as point Jeremy went.

[Larry O]

Hmmm.... looks like the good DV24 showed up tonight!

[heyheymymy]

hand/finger must be bothering Fox with these split FTs

[LeBowen]

Again with unnecessary help off a shooter when Wemby is already there.

[AusSpur]

Another sub 30% 3-point shooter splashing them against the Spurs

[spursparker9]

Hmmm.... looks like the good DV24 showed up tonight!

Good DV24 need another 10 games cool-down before appearing again

[Manu-of-steel]

Open 3 again. Overreacting to Banchero when Wemby was already there.

[Dejounte]

Anthony Black is a fuckin douchebag

[ginobilized]

I hope CP3 is done for the night and Castle closes this out w/Fox

[spursparker9]

Again with unnecessary help off a shooter when Wemby is already there.

I think they worried too much about Wemby contesting for shot and no one left to crash the board.

[Robz4000]

Fire up the tank.

[LeBowen]

Yeah, why not, Isaac makes two in a row.

[slick'81]

No way we blow this one

[rascal]

The magic haven't looked good. They only won 2 of their last 10.

Atlanta will pass them in the standings tonight.

[Larry O]

The Spurs go cold on shooting down the stretch, SMH...

[LeBowen]

What? Is that even legal?

[mo7888]

He's very good but he's also going up against guys a lot smaller than him when Wemby's not on the floor and he feasts on them. Wemby should be taking that personally though and swatting his shit when he's near the rim.

He does this against alot of tems, which is why he's a top 20 player... if he was 36% from 3 then he'd be top 10.

[scott]

These refs don't even know the rules...

[spursparker9]

:lol Wow timeout in midair? Genius bball IQ

[Tyronn Lue]

Funny if the last shot to win is Barnes and he misses.

[Mal]

yes, coach, its good basketball, just chuck the ball for 2 minutes straights in one possession game

[BatManu20]

Fox having a rough game.

[TheBallsbreakers]

Timeout while in the air. Bullshit

[mo7888]

I don't understand the way we run our offense late in the game..

[Strategic]

Nut crunch time

[slick'81]

Fox mad as hell

[Bill_Brasky]

Rebounding cost you again and again

[AusSpur]

So no Sochan in a defense only possession....

[Tyronn Lue]

Who turns it over here?

[LeBowen]

I'm not even upset, we don't deserve shit.

Why the hell doesn't Mitch call a timeout a possession earlier when it was obvious Fox has nowhere to go? Just draw something up and get a good look.

[slick'81]

Now ,leave no time sa

[Manu-of-steel]

WTF

[spursparker9]

Not too late to tank

[spursfan 73]

We are so damn weak grabbing the fucking ball man. Someone got get in Vic’s ear about this shit.

[TheBallsbreakers]

Wemby should get the last shot. Hit or miss, he's your damn future. Get him attuned to these moments.

[slick'81]

Fox redemption time

[sananspursfan21]

I’m about one more game like this away from canceling league pass and checking out.

[scott]

Run that PnR with Fox/Wemby to win it, same thing as in ATL

[spursparker9]

I say give to Vassell

[Robz4000]

:lol I hate this team so much

[slick'81]

Lets see what autism Mitch draws up

[Robz4000]

Turnover for a breakaway dunk.

[Gandalf]

Not too late to tank

Wait, we’re not already trying?

[slick'81]

Wow

[Frenchfred]

Spurs lost and Hawks are going to win, another shit night

[AusSpur]

What is this coaching!!!!!!!

[z0sa]

A-fuckin'-nother one? Damn.

[skin27]

Wemby lol

[LeBowen]

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

Yeah, let's waste 24 seconds off the clock for a contested mid-range buzzer beater against a team with no time outs and horrible FT shooters.
Who the fuck even comes up with these ideas?

[Mal]

Awesome possesion with timeout left

[timtonymanu]

Sneezey :lol

[spursparker9]

6 games below .500 now.

[BackHome]

Tank for Flagg

[rascal]

Don't put Sochan in on this last play!

[slick'81]

We suck again

[onechance87]

this shit is annoying

[z0sa]

Mitch "run the clock out down 1" Johnson strikes again.

[Degoat]

Wemby with the worst plus/minis on the team tonight, someone has to get in his ear and tell
him to quit playing like a bitch. Last two games has been unacceptable

[Manu-of-steel]

CP0 was there for too long. We really need a good coach

[Larry O]

What was THAT?! WHAT WAS THAT ENDING?!!!

[sananspursfan21]

What a waste of two and a half hours

[TekXX]

I'm fine with Fox taking it if he wants

[mudyez]

Sux but well...I like it for our pick.

[Leetonidas]

Seriously Mitch Johnson gtfo you fuckin clown ass moron. Did they think the game was tied or what? Absolutely inexcusable to run the clock down in that situation

[timtonymanu]

A 1 point win over Atlanta to avoid going 0-3 on this trip :lol

[Mr. Body]

Man Fox sucks.

[z0sa]

Seriously, my high school coach had better out of time out plays.

[Arcadian]

Why did we burn the clock while losing? That's what you do when the game is tied, not when you're down...

[Spurs Brazil]

Terrible. Fox was bad tonight. And another dumb coaching. WTF take the whole clock when you’re down by one. Fucking stupid

[Robz4000]

I don't wanna see this team win another game this season.

[TheBallsbreakers]

I have no problem with that.

[scott]

Team Tankers should be happy about this one. Not far away from scheduling that Fox surgery, tbh

[ffadicted]

What in the FUCK was that?? 24 seconds and we don’t take two go’s at it? What a fucking joke I’m livid

[Quiet Strength]

This team is garbage

[Bill_Brasky]

We're a joke

[onechance87]

wow fire this dumbass coach now

[Mal]

They had 24s, down 1 and timeout. Worst case scenario, you are down 3 with timeout, with whatever time you left. Stupid coaching

[timtonymanu]

I don't wanna see this team win another game this season.

Same. Let’s get a high pick.

[slick'81]

Or you know we could actually execute :lmao

[spursfan 73]

Another game ends with Mitch having a challenge in his pocket too. He’s just so grossly overmatched.

Between him being shit and Wemby once again hitting a wall pre all-star break this just went to a tank season with way too much talent.

[sananspursfan21]

This is the only team I’ve ever seen add a secondary star player in exchange for zero impact players and they become worse :lol

[Pauleta14]

If THAT is the play that was drawn by Mitch... :lol

[murpjf88]

Wemby is a good player, an all-star player even but he's no generational talent.

[Kyle_Kuzma]

7’4 of pure ass….Bustenyama :lmao

[slick'81]

This is the only team I’ve ever seen add a secondary star player in exchange for zero impact players and they become worse :lol


atleast we kept kj and vassell lol

[Devi8or]

Sean said the same thing on the broadcast, he would shoot it earlier in case you didn't make it.....mitch didn't get that memo

[Knoxxx]

Another picture perfect loss with both POR and CHI up double digits at half, great night if that holds!

[siraulo23]

just tank at this point tbh :lol

[TekXX]

We're worse with Fox, kidding but LOL

[z0sa]

That might have been the stupidest play-call (running the clock out down 1) I've ever seen, at any level of basketball.

[Manu-of-steel]

Wemby with no nore gas in the tank. But Mitch is really clurless on how to win. Putting CP0 there for too long in the 4th Q, poor play calling in clutch, poor time management

[mudyez]

Btw: Wasn't there a rule change like 26 or 30 years ago, that you only can take a timeout with both feet inbound...meaning not while jumping out of bounds? I hated it coz I loved Barkley and Rodman doing it, but that showes how long it has been implemented.

[slick'81]

Bad coaching and dumb iq players

[vy65]

Wemby is a good player, an all-star player even but he's no generational talent.

They were/are bad. They should have won the last two. Wemby has not been great. Mitch is a bitch.

But this is a fucking retarded take. Consider what you’re doing with your life.

[weeks]

i've been underwhelmed with wemby lately but more importantly our offense is so iso-heavy. do we even run plays anymore? wtf?

[Arcadian]

Wemby is a good player, an all-star player even but he's no generational talent.

Bullshit. He's literally the only person in history with his size and skillset.

[murpjf88]

wow fire this dumbass coach now

Pop will only give him a raise for making him look like a worse coach by comparison.

[BatManu20]

Wemby is a good player, an all-star player even but he's no generational talent.

Here come the knee-jerk reactions :lol

[onechance87]

Im so pissed...This loss is on the coach.

[RC_Drunkford]

Keep the tank rolling

Mitch: B-

[AusSpur]

just tank at this point tbh :lol

We're letting Mitch Johnson cosplay as an NBA coach, which is as tanky as it gets.

[John B]

Disappointing lost. I thought they had it with how well they’re shooting the ball. Wemby taking the last shot is fine. He needs to take that shot. But clutch was there too, and also Castle who could’ve bullied and get a foul. Moving on

[Splits]

both teams played hard

[Mal]

109-102 with 3.26 to go. Everything from this point was chucked jumper or turnover. And one timeout is going back to SA with the team

[Pauleta14]

We started this season A LOT better than the last one, there's a chance we finish it A LOT worse...

[slick'81]

Yay! Another competitive loss.

[murpjf88]

They were/are bad. They should have won the last two. Wemby has not been great. Mitch is a bitch.

But this is a fucking retarded take. Consider what you’re doing with your life.
He'll never reach his full potential if he can't even play 30 minutes a game without being totally gassed.

[TheBallsbreakers]

Wemby is a good player, an all-star player even but he's no generational talent.
You are safely in the Hall of Fame of knee-jerk dummies on ST.

[LeBowen]

Too bad there isn't a single reporter who's going to ask our supposed coach what the fuck was that.
I've got no basketball degrees, so I'd really like to hear an explanation why did he tell them to run the clock down with 24 seconds left, opponents having no time-outs or reliable FT shooters.
Not to mention it was only a 1 point game so even if our shot failed and they made both FTs, we could've still called another time-out and had a 3pt attempt for OT.

Fucking hell, you're spending $150 million on the roster, we have the highest paid front office and coaching staff in the league and then this happens?
It wasn't even a major fuck up or something, just someone completely out of their depth.

[Mal]

Wemby is a good player, an all-star player even but he's no generational talent.

He is one of a kind, in a good way

[z0sa]

No challenge, no quick basket attempt and play d or foul (no TOs remaining), no actual play call other than iso -- not even a screen and roll. I'm in shock, tbqh

[Knoxxx]

Team Tankers should be happy about this one. Not far away from scheduling that Fox surgery, tbh

Nobody WANTS to tank, that’s just what those of who are actually being realistic know what needs to happen. The non tankers are simply in denial. Stop making like the tankers are the bad guys here.

[rascal]

Get the combined lottery odds with the 7th and 8th worst teams and get that top 4 pick.

[cd021]

Strange clock management. Quick shot, if you miss, trap and possibly foul, and still have a decent amount of time for a three to tie. Instead. The Spurs run the clock down, intentional foul and Wemby takes a contested jumper with two seconds left. WTH?

[mystargtr34]

Good loss tbh. Keeps the Magic ahead of the Hawks for that 8th spot in the standings. Pushes the Spurs closer to that 7th draft slot with an L.

Spurs need to make a call on CP3 to the bench and insert Castle.

[murpjf88]

Here come the knee-jerk reactions :lol

He may have skills but he doesn't rebound well for his size and he gets pushed around too easily. A grown man would have secured that rebound the possession before and the Spurs would have gone into the final 30 seconds with a lead.

[onechance87]

We gotta have better lineups...Fox with cp3 aint gonna work.We need to stop forcing it.Either cut paul or
bench him.

[TheBallsbreakers]

Vic literally hit the same shot to take the lead, just earlier.
I have no problem with that shot. He should be the one taking it every damn time.
That will get him used to such high-pressure situations.
Teachable moment every time.

Game was lost with the utter lack of playcalling almost the entire last 5 minutes.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Keep the tank rolling

Mitch: B-


Hahaha but yeah, forget play in, tank as hard as possible, let fox get surgery and get multiple top 11 picks in the lottery

[TekXX]

Wemby is generational defensively but on offense you feel like you could be getting more.

[scott]

Nobody WANTS to tank, that’s just what those of who are actually being realistic know what needs to happen. The non tankers are simply in denial. Stop making like the tankers are the bad guys here.

Please don't interpret my statement as trying to make Team Tankers bad guys... I was just stating the facts. There is definitely a point at which it makes sense to effectively shut it down this season. That point may have been yesterday, tbh.

[cd021]

Spurs digging themselves a big hole with bad and/or close losses. Blew the chicago game. Blew the Miami game, blew the Charlotte game, and now this one

[LeBowen]

He may have skills but he doesn't rebound well for his size and he gets pushed around too easily. A grown man would have secured that rebound the possession before and the Spurs would have gone into the final 30 seconds with a lead.

Oh stop with that boomer shit, does he look like a grown man to you? Just because he's tall it doesn't mean he has the strength. He can't even post up 6'7 wings properly.
He should've done better in some other areas, like not chucking up random logo 3s when we were up and could've put the game out of reach.
Coping that he'll play a "real man's game" akin to Timmy or Admiral is just delusional. He's a 7'5 wing who happens to be the best rim protector ever, for better or worse.

[siraulo23]

i was hoping this team could make the play in/playoffs and get some experience but clearly thats expecting too much

keep the Ls coming and just enjoy watching Castle/Wemby

hopefully Wemby gets out of this funk soon

lets see what a full offseason does to his development, he is definitely a part of the problem with the teams poor rebounding, not being strong to hold his own and box out

[sananspursfan21]

What’s gonna happen is they’ll play like this til March, then they’ll turn it on and finish the season like 6-4 and convince the front office this squad is good to run back :lol

[rascal]

Spurs digging themselves a big hole with bad and/or close losses. Blew the chicago game. Blew the Miami game, blew the Charlotte game, and now this one

They didn't blow the Charlotte game. Charlotte had the lead that entire game and outplayed the Spurs. Spurs were lucky to draw close in the final seconds.

[TheBallsbreakers]

Too bad there isn't a single reporter who's going to ask our supposed coach what the fuck was that.
I've got no basketball degrees, so I'd really like to hear an explanation why did he tell them to run the clock down with 24 seconds left, opponents having no time-outs or reliable FT shooters.
Not to mention it was only a 1 point game so even if our shot failed and they made both FTs, we could've still called another time-out and had a 3pt attempt for OT.

Fucking hell, you're spending $150 million on the roster, we have the highest paid front office and coaching staff in the league and then this happens?
It wasn't even a major fuck up or something, just someone completely out of their depth.
You have a point but had Vic made that shot, that would have sealed the game for good and we would be here celebrating the kid's first truly clutch moment.

[Knoxxx]

Too bad there isn't a single reporter who's going to ask our supposed coach what the fuck was that.
I've got no basketball degrees, so I'd really like to hear an explanation why did he tell them to run the clock down with 24 seconds left, opponents having no time-outs or reliable FT shooters.
Not to mention it was only a 1 point game so even if our shot failed and they made both FTs, we could've still called another time-out and had a 3pt attempt for OT.

Fucking hell, you're spending $150 million on the roster, we have the highest paid front office and coaching staff in the league and then this happens?
It wasn't even a major fuck up or something, just someone completely out of their depth.

Ok so maybe it wasn’t by design but now Wemby blames himself for the loss. That’s actually a good outcome when you are better off losing anyway. Two games in a row with the game winning shot being missed by each of our top 2 stars. Ping pong balls we sorely need. Yes it’s always annoying to lose but we didn’t deserve to win anyway.

[Davidicus]

CP3 again isolated and destroyed on defense. Im guessing we’re gonna have to watch this for the rest of the year.

[TheBallsbreakers]

Wemby is generational defensively but on offense you feel like you could be getting more.
For real. His defense is ahead of his offense, which is already great but still has plenty of rooms to improve. Good thing is that he's still incredibly young. That's actually scary.
We just need to be patient. The problem is he'll have terrific games that will force us to jump the gun and expect him to be MJ and once again forget that he is fucking 21 years old.

[onechance87]

they should of sat cp3 for this back to back.Just terrible from our coaching not having any balls or control of this roster.

[murpjf88]

Oh stop with that boomer shit, does he look like a grown man to you? Just because he's tall it doesn't mean he has the strength. He can't even post up 6'7 wings properly.
He should've done better in some other areas, like not chucking up random logo 3s when we were up and could've put the game out of reach.
Coping that he'll play a "real man's game" akin to Timmy or Admiral is just delusional. He's a 7'5 wing who happens to be the best rim protector ever, for better or worse.

Generational talents play on both sides of the court. Considering how good he is defensively, his offensive rating is a paltry 109.

[onechance87]

What’s gonna happen is they’ll play like this til March, then they’ll turn it on and finish the season like 6-4 and convince the front office this squad is good to run back :lol

Obvious keldon dont fit on this team for sure.Vassell and sochan seem unlikely as well.This roster aint it
other then castle with wemby.

[Knoxxx]

Please don't interpret my statement as trying to make Team Tankers bad guys... I was just stating the facts. There is definitely a point at which it makes sense to effectively shut it down this season. That point may have been yesterday, tbh.

No worries I didn’t actually mean to single you out, it was just the most convenient post to quote related to my point. I actually thought you were mainly just coming around to the grim reality that beating these crap teams on the road isn’t actually helpful to our future. It’s not an easy thing to come to terms with in the moment, we are all employing different coping mechanisms and I think looking forward the lottery is the best approach. Once we fast forward to that, it is easier to disassociate with the disappointment of where we are right now.

[rascal]

One more weak team on the road trip coming up.

[Mugen]

Spurs just desperately need some toughness in the interior and on the glass.

They're just unfortunately very soft in that area with zero effort.

[murpjf88]

Oh stop with that boomer shit, does he look like a grown man to you? Just because he's tall it doesn't mean he has the strength. He can't even post up 6'7 wings properly.
He should've done better in some other areas, like not chucking up random logo 3s when we were up and could've put the game out of reach.
Coping that he'll play a "real man's game" akin to Timmy or Admiral is just delusional. He's a 7'5 wing who happens to be the best rim protector ever, for better or worse.
Nothing wrong with being Dikembe Mutumbo.

[Duncan2177]

What’s gonna happen is they’ll play like this til March, then they’ll turn it on and finish the season like 6-4 and convince the front office this squad is good to run back :lol

Hopefully the FO isn't that dumb and naive. Jesus smh

[scott]

No worries I didn’t actually mean to single you out, it was just the most convenient post to quote related to my point. I actually thought you were mainly just coming around to the grim reality that beating these crap teams on the road isn’t actually helpful to our future. It’s not an easy thing to come to terms with in the moment, we are all employing different coping mechanisms and I think looking forward the lottery is the best approach. Once we fast forward to that, it is easier to disassociate with the disappointment of where we are right now.

All good amigo. Yeah, I think these two losses in particular are as close to a nail we can get. Could we still possibly go on a run? Sure, but it's highly unlikely. We really need to sweep the ATL-CHA-ORL-WAS stretch to have a solid shot at the play-in. We're still only 3 games back in the loss column to the 8 seed, but I don't see it coming together at this point.

I'm a little torn on how to handle the rest of the season. I think there are definitely some positives to come out of Fox developing chemistry with Castle and Wemby, and seeing how Devin and Sochan perform with the additional gravity he brings (like tonight, for example, Devin was fantastic. If he was like this consistently through the end of the season, that would answer a question that we really need to get answered ASAP... we cannot go into next season wondering if Devin will be a fit)

[Knoxxx]

I love CP3 because I hated playing him. He’s way past being a winning level player these days.

Champ is not a playoff level rotation player but at least we are seeing that clearly.

KJ for all his flaws is 5th in the league in bench points. Coupled with his valuable contract (next year’s Collins expiring type) and likability I’m not down on the guy.

Sochan has severely regressed and it’s been horrible to watch. He drives in the lane at will and then just chucks out some lame pass that other teams figured out fast. But, on the 1 in 20 times he actually tries to drive and score, he clanks it so teams don’t even have to guard him really. It’s a bad situation and his confidence looks totally shot which hurts us even more when Barnes is our only other “big.” Sochan doesn’t even seem to able to grab an easy rebound half
the time, he’s in a total funk.

I was not down on Wemby, he’s in a rookie/soph wall, bad sinus, lethargic funk of his own. But when that still gets us 18 and 9 plus 4-4-4, singling him out is ridiculous. He played only 30 minutes on a back to back, and was only 1 each away from a 5x5. Yeah that really sucks, LOL. Spoiled entitled brats.

[Mugen]

Nothing would make me happier than a loss to the Wizards tbh.

I want this team to hit absolute rock bottom.

[rankingtear]

My boy Sochan catching strays while having an impactful game and the bench unit actually maintaining leads. Wemby and Fox having awful games is actually frying your brains. It would take some time before those guys learn to play together. Sochan + Castle is finally clicking is one of the positives this past games.

[Knoxxx]

The Fox shut down remains a great idea. Then we still give CP3 his last hurrah and that’s not gonna win many games. But it leaves more PT for Castle and especially more shots. 32-50 record, Castle ROY, Wemby first All Star. Perfectly good season!

[Knoxxx]

My boy Sochan catching strays while having an impactful game and the bench unit actually maintaining leads. Wemby and Fox having awful games is actually frying your brains. It would take some time before those guys learn to play together. Sochan + Castle is finally clicking is one of the positives this past games.

He was horrific and had to be yanked right away in the first. Was a bit better later but I stand by my statement that he’s in an awful funk, overall. I think he’d get more than 18 minutes if he earned them. Mitch had the right 5 guys on the floor at the end, which did not include Sochan or CP3.

[spurraider21]

A lot of things went wrong but Mitch is really screwing the pooch

Running the clock down for the final shot when down 1 is coaching malpractice. And overplaying CP3 at this point. Yes we needed to rely on him this season but with Fox around it’s just unnecessary. The lack of backup big at the moment isn’t on Mitch that’s more FO

[onechance87]

playing cp3 with fox is soft tanking.No need to have cp3 close out games.Dudes where just taking rebounds and driving pass by
him like nothing.If he must start,dont have him close out.Simple

[Raven]

mitch keeps loosing us games , at one point in the lcutch, he had castle on franz vagner and barnes on banchero, and he wonders why they kept making shots.

[Knoxxx]

Us losing was the only good thing tonight, ATL won and both POR and CHI shat the bed in the second half. We had that 9 lotto spot briefly though!

[Knoxxx]

mitch keeps loosing us games , at one point in the lcutch, he had castle on franz vagner and barnes on banchero, and he wonders why they kept making shots.

Generally what I was saying, CP3 makes sense for losing which makes sense more than winning. You seem to twist back and forth. Similarly Mitch messing up is more of a net positive. He at least had the right lineup in at the end this time, which in the bigger picture was not even the correct move. We should have had like KJ and Champ running around there at the end to improve odds of a loss, actually.

[itzsoweezee]

Btw: Wasn't there a rule change like 26 or 30 years ago, that you only can take a timeout with both feet inbound...meaning not while jumping out of bounds? I hated it coz I loved Barkley and Rodman doing it, but that showes how long it has been implemented.

Yes, there was. The ref is a fucking dumb shit.

[Strategic]

Not coaching the guys up on blocking out and rebounding is soft tanking the team. I remember not so long ago Pop would substitute a new 5 if the starters weren’t doing that shit. Timmy, Manu, Tony can all have a seat and think about it.

[Gagnrath]

A lot of things went wrong but Mitch is really screwing the pooch

Running the clock down for the final shot when down 1 is coaching malpractice. And overplaying CP3 at this point. Yes we needed to rely on him this season but with Fox around it’s just unnecessary. The lack of backup big at the moment isn’t on Mitch that’s more FO


Honestly it's not pick-up ball guys I get not really wanting a guy who has had one practice with the team to be primary ball handler in crunch time. However it's also not exactly like there's other good options at the moment..

[Duncan2177]

Spurs need a real coach.

[Raven]

Generally what I was saying, CP3 makes sense for losing which makes sense more than winning. You seem to twist back and forth. Similarly Mitch messing up is more of a net positive. He at least had the right lineup in at the end this time, which in the bigger picture was not even the correct move. We should have had like KJ and Champ running around there at the end to improve odds of a loss, actually.

i don't buy into the tank with fox and wemby plan..

[Raven]

Honestly it's not pick-up ball guys I get not really wanting a guy who has had one practice with the team to be primary ball handler in crunch time. However it's also not exactly like there's other good options at the moment..

he's playing 3 pgs in the clutch and NOT running a play.. Speaks for itself.

[Knoxxx]

Yes, there was. The ref is a fucking dumb shit.

NBA reffing is terrible to watch. You have to wonder if the league ever even looks at games to try and identify and correct all the obviously blown calls.

[spurraider21]

Honestly it's not pick-up ball guys I get not really wanting a guy who has had one practice with the team to be primary ball handler in crunch time. However it's also not exactly like there's other good options at the moment..
I mean i don’t care who it is being the primary. But you have to go for a quick shot and give yourself a chance to foul and get a second possession

[cd021]

They didn't blow the Charlotte game. Charlotte had the lead that entire game and outplayed the Spurs. Spurs were lucky to draw close in the final seconds.

They were at full strength and were getting smoked by a shorthanded Charlotte team. They had no business losing that game either way.

[Ice009]

I just watched the game. I think I'm done with this shit. Poor coaching, poor decision making, not playing Castle enough, shit rotations. Cannot believe they threw that game away as well. I also don't recall seeing Castle on the court for the last play? Was he out there? He could have drawn a foul. Mitch has no idea what he's doing. Also, only down one, why run the fucking shot clock down? Take a shot earlier so you can foul if it doesn't go.

Go for the lottery now. Just lose the rest of the games. These guys are rubbing off of Fox as he made some errors down the stretch too, but they're also putting a lot of pressure on him these first three games to make the winning plays for them. He's come through twice as far as I'm concerned (even if it didn't count in his second game).

Man, what a fucking gut punch of a loss. Shouda, woulda, coulda type of season. Victor needs to rethink the weight room thing. If he comes back with only 1% body weight increase next off-season, he's going nowhere near GOAT status. If he tries for the 5% (he said he aims for between 1-5% increase each off-season), then that would better.


Vic literally hit the same shot to take the lead, just earlier.
I have no problem with that shot. He should be the one taking it every damn time.
That will get him used to such high-pressure situations.
Teachable moment every time.

Game was lost with the utter lack of playcalling almost the entire last 5 minutes.

Look, I'm upset with the loss, so I'm probably being a bit irrational, but what is Victor's go to offense going to be? I was OK with the shot too, but he doesn't seem to have much apart from jump shots on offense. He can't seem to put the ball on the floor and drive to the RIM and draw a foul. His jump shot can't be his only offense in money time if he wants to be great. He's gotta have some variety/other go-to moves to score. This is why I like Tim and Hakeem and rate them so highly, they have many more ways they can score with the game on the line. Victor is a better shooter, but that can't be your only offense/go-to move.

[tbdog]

A lot of things went wrong but Mitch is really screwing the pooch

Running the clock down for the final shot when down 1 is coaching malpractice. And overplaying CP3 at this point. Yes we needed to rely on him this season but with Fox around it’s just unnecessary. The lack of backup big at the moment isn’t on Mitch that’s more FO

How about not putting Sochan on instead of Barnes against Banchero off a timeout. Even though Magic a foul to give just in case you are worried about Sochan free throw shooting.

[RC_Drunkford]

key word: fundamental

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[TheBallsbreakers]

I just watched the game. I think I'm done with this shit. Poor coaching, poor decision making, not playing Castle enough, shit rotations. Cannot believe they threw that game away as well. I also don't recall seeing Castle on the court for the last play? Was he out there? He could have drawn a foul. Mitch has no idea what he's doing. Also, only down one, why run the fucking shot clock down? Take a shot earlier so you can foul if it doesn't go.

Go for the lottery now. Just lose the rest of the games. These guys are rubbing off of Fox as he made some errors down the stretch too, but they're also putting a lot of pressure on his these first three games to make the winning play for them. He's come through twice as far as I'm concerned (even if it didn't count).

Man, what a fucking gut punch of a loss. Should, coulda type of season. Victor needs to rethink the weight room thing. If he comes back with only 1% body weight increase next off-season, he's going nowhere near GOAT status. If he tries for the 5% (he said he aims for between 1-5% increase each off-season), then that would better.



Look, I'm upset with the loss, so I'm probably being a bit irrational, but what is Victor's go to offense going to be? I was OK with the shot too, but he doesn't seem to have much apart from jump shots on offense. He can't seem to put the ball on the floor and drive to the RIM and draw a foul. His jump shot can't be his only offense in money time if he wants to be great. He's gotta have some variety/other go-to moves to score. This is why I like Tim and Hakeem and rate them so highly, they have many more ways they can score with the game on the line. Victor is a better shooter, but that can't be your only offense/go-to move.
Vic had several possessions in a row where he was driving strong to the basket and drawing fouls on Goga Bitadze. I think that was in the third.
Unfortunately, he went back to shooting 3s a little while after that.
He can do it. He just can't seem to get rid of that instinct to let it fly everytime. Perhaps he rightly feels he's open all the time.

But I do agree he has to diversify his offensive game. He absolutely has the ability to do so. Kid just needs time to build that into his mindset/approach.
He's so young still.

[Ice009]

key word: fundamental

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Nothing but truth there from Harrison there.


Vic had several possessions in a row where he was driving strong to the basket and drawing fouls on Goga Bitadze. I think that was in the third.
Unfortunately, he went back to shooting 3s a little while after that.
He can do it. He just can't seem to get rid of that instinct to let it fly everytime. Perhaps he rightly feels he's open all the time.

But I do agree he has to diversify his offensive game. He absolutely has the ability to do so. Kid just needs time to build that into his mindset/approach.
He's so young still.

I didn't watch the third quarter closely as I was up for almost 24 hours at that point and fell asleep. I woke up a bit later and watched the end of the 3rd and 4th quater. He needs some more weight IMO, but he also needs a few more go to moves. Not just jump shots all the time. You did raise a good point, though, that I just don't think about as I'm way, way shorter and it's not a consideration for me. Maybe he does feel open all the time and it's feels right/easier for him to just take the jump shot.

[rascal]

playing cp3 with fox is soft tanking.No need to have cp3 close out games.Dudes where just taking rebounds and driving pass by
him like nothing.If he must start,dont have him close out.Simple

Paul isn't going to be happy sitting out close games.

[rascal]

Where is the Wemby is a center thread?

Wemby isn't playing like a center.

He doesn't like playing near the basket and rather be hanging around the three point line early in the offense primarily looking to put up a 3 point shot.

Seems like the Spurs allow Wemby to play anyway he likes.

[LeBowen]

Wemby isn't playing like a center.

He's playing like a center on defense, that's the only relevant thing when it comes to positions in modern basketball.
Offense doesn't need a center if it's functional.

[z0sa]

Wemby needs a Karl Malone-esque spin to get free followed by a fadeaway. Could be baseline or at the FT line/key.

More preferably, he figures out how to get free without needing a fadeaway jumpshot and instead dunks it, but I'm not sure that'll ever really be his game at this point. Only (barely) 21 so time will tell.

[widowmaker]

Another nail biter game. I say everyone pre wemby that has been here for 3 plus years needs to go seems like nothing has been learned and zero progress has been done.

[widowmaker]

Mitch ain't out there clanking shots. Mitch ain't out there double teaming when you don't need to double team.