DOGE website live

[TSA]

This is going to be eye opening once it's fully operational. Receipts and transparency.

https://x.com/DOGE/status/1889897384122982604

https://www.doge.gov/

https://www.doge.gov/regulations

https://www.doge.gov/workforce?orgId=69ee18bc-9ac8-467e-84b0-106601b01b90

https://www.doge.gov/savings

https://x.com/DOGE

[ChumpDumper]

Whatever they want us to see will be transparent!

[TSA]

https://x.com/doge/status/1888046273543979183

[TSA]

https://x.com/doge/status/1889086583933956582

[TSA]

https://x.com/doge/status/1889113011282907434

[ChumpDumper]

Gatekeepers keeping gates.

[TSA]

https://x.com/doge/status/1889782272938701223

[Blake]

https://x.com/doge/status/1889113011282907434

Make America wasp again

[TSA]

https://x.com/doge/status/1889838663833645309

[ChumpDumper]

:lol gang names!

[TSA]

https://x.com/doge/status/1889857378520363493

[ChumpDumper]

TSA has engaged wall of text mode.

[Blake]

When can we see the books for the Space X contracts?

[TSA]

https://x.com/usedgov/status/1889800711858430385

https://x.com/usedgov/status/1889800715826282776

[Blake]

https://x.com/usedgov/status/1889800711858430385

https://x.com/usedgov/status/1889800715826282776

So if DOGE cuts those projects, are they going to redirect those funds into other education projects?

[z0sa]

:lol cut stuff you don't agree with and then call it fraud. The stupids will agree, people with brains will see it as the type of change every single administration of a different party (and sometimes the same party) makes.

President Musk doing President Musk things.

[ChumpDumper]

Receipts and transparency.

1887645727028830587

https://x.com/Forbes/status/1887645727028830587

[ChumpDumper]

Receipts and transparency.

1889370023250083994

https://x.com/JohnLGoodman/status/1889370023250083994

[Blake]

We'll never see the Space X / tesla armored mini van division contracts in full detail

[Yonivore]

Blake, ChumpDumper, and Winehole, here's your chance to get in there and fix things...

https://www.doge.gov/join

[ChumpDumper]

Blake, ChumpDumper, and Winehole, here's your chance to get in there and fix things...

https://www.doge.gov/join

Why is Elon's financial disclosure a secret, Rushmore?

[ChumpDumper]

Also, why are he and Trump fucking morons?

[Blake]

Blake, ChumpDumper, and Winehole, here's your chance to get in there and fix things...

https://www.doge.gov/join

First wasteful thing I would shut down is DOGE

[Yonivore]

First wasteful thing I would shut down is DOGE
Well, there's your opportunity. Go get 'em, Blake.

[TSA]

First wasteful thing I would shut down is DOGE

How is DOGE wasteful? In your own words, if you can do that.

[ChumpDumper]

How is DOGE wasteful? In your own words, if you can do that.

Why is Elon's financial disclosure a state secret? In your own words, if you can do that.

[Blake]

How is DOGE wasteful? In your own words, if you can do that.

After they're through playing bull in the China shop, there'll be a lot of mess to clean up and no doubt payouts from lawsuits

[hater]

I heard someone was recommending we put all Treasury Ledger on the public blockchain.

That would be fucking amazing.


If that happens you, me or any fool could track every single tax dollar spent and what exactly it was spent on.

[hater]

I would even go farther and put all our tax contrubutions on.the blockchain.

You could literally track every single of your tax dollars and what it was spent on :lol

[Blake]

I heard someone was recommending we put all Treasury Ledger on the public blockchain.

That would be fucking amazing.


If that happens you, me or any fool could track every single tax dollar spent and what exactly it was spent on.

Great let's start with dollar for dollar everything that's in the Space X contract

[Spurs Homer]

hahahahahahahahaha!

Comrade TSA believes things that "dear leader does not like"
equals FRAUD!

hahahahahahah!

[koriwhat]

hahahahahahahahaha!

Comrade TSA believes things that "dear leader does not like"
equals FRAUD!

hahahahahahah!

You're such a fucking waste of flesh. Fucking retard!

[hater]

Great let's start with dollar for dollar everything that's in the Space X contract

:tu

I would love this

And all the Military Industrial Complex as well


I dont mind if some projects say "top secret"

But it would be amazong to find out exactly how luch we spend on top secret trash

[Thread]

:tu

I would love this

And all the Military Industrial Complex as well


I dont mind if some projects say "top secret"

But it would be amazong to find out exactly how luch we spend on top secret trash

Amen.

[ducks]

This is going to be eye opening once it's fully operational. Receipts and transparency.

https://x.com/DOGE/status/1889897384122982604

https://www.doge.gov/

https://www.doge.gov/regulations

https://www.doge.gov/workforce?orgId=69ee18bc-9ac8-467e-84b0-106601b01b90

https://www.doge.gov/savings

https://x.com/DOGE

[ducks]

Also, why are he and Trump fucking morons?

They are says who
Doge is 60 percent popular
Trump is close to that

[ChumpDumper]

They are says who
Doge is 60 percent popular
Trump is close to thatWhy are they fucking morons?

[ducks]

Why are they fucking morons?

Says who ?
The ones that commited fraud ?

[ChumpDumper]

Says who ?
The ones that commited fraud ?Me.

These morons fall for the simplest internet fake news.

[Blake]

Says who ?
The ones that commited fraud ?

Trump wouldn't call himself a moron

[Winehole23]

so much power, so much stupidity

[Thread]

so much power, so much stupidity

You fell asleep at the wheel AGAIN.

Your regrets are your own.
I've no sympathy for you.

[Winehole23]

The doge.gov website that was spun up to track Elon Musk’s cuts to the federal government is insecure and pulls from a database that can be edited by anyone, according to two separate people who found the vulnerability and shared it with 404 Media. One coder added at least two database entries that are visible on the live site and say “this is a joke of a .gov site (https://doge.gov/workforce?orgId=1&ref=404media.co)” and “THESE ‘EXPERTS’ LEFT THEIR DATABASE OPEN -roro (https://doge.gov/workforce?orgId=7cd300eb-cf3f-47f5-90f1-9e66a8bc8d07&ref=404media.co).” https://www.404media.co/anyone-can-push-updates-to-the-doge-gov-website-2/

https://lh7-rt.googleusercontent.com/docsz/AD_4nXeBj1sULGS-07ys3DLJepgItBOvTnyo6b2aZQsOtGFvub3ACRc566SSC2dfOm XgizEpmWmcoNDYbwEg0n2nK68xPsRe0oye_4WU_5ajdVIxoeBr veSuIYc3YVBWTQ_HEsNO0ojlIw?key=gAIrXPZRYm9yv2nptY_ KngC-

https://lh7-rt.googleusercontent.com/docsz/AD_4nXduvibGkdrC-ZZHh6BlVBFJzbaE5TaPSLbkzbh2SVn651YU3jKLf5tCe1bV27s sKVaSKzP-wFyEqmdPgKr7YslDKNOA55sMktGGFuAfBUmSn_-xqCRoq_8A-hUdKrWlxx3G1Xu8OQ?key=gAIrXPZRYm9yv2nptY_KngC-

[Winehole23]

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:rogqxhzq6vy54nbuy4n6rwyd/bafkreif542yo6ctturwvhrmxu6spsgeieaxxqdfidcymqqyoz n5sbldifa@jpeg

[ChumpDumper]

:lol.fucking morons

[Yonivore]

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:rogqxhzq6vy54nbuy4n6rwyd/bafkreif542yo6ctturwvhrmxu6spsgeieaxxqdfidcymqqyoz n5sbldifa@jpeg
It'll be fixed faster than the Obamacare website that took $2.1 Billion to create fix and another $91 Million to overhaul and repair it in 2014.

The current budget for DOGE is $14.4 Million.

Efficient.

[Blake]

It'll be fixed faster than the Obamacare website that took $2.1 Billion to create fix and another $91 Million to overhaul and repair it in 2014.

The current budget for DOGE is $14.4 Million.

Efficient.

Wow, he's even getting paid to keep everyone else from looking at his contracts. It really is impressive

[Thread]

:lol.fucking morons

Him mad again.

[DarrinS]

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:rogqxhzq6vy54nbuy4n6rwyd/bafkreif542yo6ctturwvhrmxu6spsgeieaxxqdfidcymqqyoz n5sbldifa@jpeg

How is date of birth not a required field? Your SS benefit is based on age. Definitely some fucked up data they uncovered

[Yonivore]

..

[Yonivore]

https://www.404media.co/anyone-can-push-updates-to-the-doge-gov-website-2/

https://lh7-rt.googleusercontent.com/docsz/AD_4nXeBj1sULGS-07ys3DLJepgItBOvTnyo6b2aZQsOtGFvub3ACRc566SSC2dfOm XgizEpmWmcoNDYbwEg0n2nK68xPsRe0oye_4WU_5ajdVIxoeBr veSuIYc3YVBWTQ_HEsNO0ojlIw?key=gAIrXPZRYm9yv2nptY_ KngC-

https://lh7-rt.googleusercontent.com/docsz/AD_4nXduvibGkdrC-ZZHh6BlVBFJzbaE5TaPSLbkzbh2SVn651YU3jKLf5tCe1bV27s sKVaSKzP-wFyEqmdPgKr7YslDKNOA55sMktGGFuAfBUmSn_-xqCRoq_8A-hUdKrWlxx3G1Xu8OQ?key=gAIrXPZRYm9yv2nptY_KngC-


https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:rogqxhzq6vy54nbuy4n6rwyd/bafkreif542yo6ctturwvhrmxu6spsgeieaxxqdfidcymqqyoz n5sbldifa@jpeg
A couple of other things, the databases the "hacker" linked appear to be for organizational information, "org-data-7cd300eb-cf3f-47f5-90f1-9e66a8bc8d07" and "org-data-1." I downloaded both .csv files and they're empty with a file size of 0bytes. either they've been pulled or they never had any information in them. I don't know.

Also, you'll not the caveat at the bottom of the DOGE website specifically states, "All workforce data from the U.S. Office of Personnel Management as of March 2024 → (https://www.fedscope.opm.gov/)" and "Workforce data excludes Military, Postal Service, White House, intelligence agencies, and others → (https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/data-analysis-documentation/federal-employment-reports/#url=SDM)". Both statements are linked to OPM where even you can view the data DOGE used to create the website. Winehouse, you too can create a DOGE-like website, using publicly available information, just like Big Balls.

I hope the hackers committed a federal crime and are thrown in jail for their stupidity.

[Yonivore]

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:rogqxhzq6vy54nbuy4n6rwyd/bafkreif542yo6ctturwvhrmxu6spsgeieaxxqdfidcymqqyoz n5sbldifa@jpeg
Now, I'm more concerned about people receiving Social Security Benefits for whom the SSA has no date of birth. How do they know they're eligible for benefits if they are age-dependent?

[ChumpDumper]

Now, I'm more concerned about people receiving Social Security Benefits for whom the SSA has no date of birth. How do they know they're eligible for benefits if they are age-dependent?

But Elon said they're over 150 years old.

Was he wrong?

[DarrinS]

But Elon said they're over 150 years old.

Was he wrong?

Unknown, if DOB is unknown

[Trainwreck2100]

How is date of birth not a required field? Your SS benefit is based on age. Definitely some fucked up data they uncovered
Did you not understand that whole COBOL explanation? You don't need a birthday you just need a year. SS won't change and your birthday only matters when you originally sign up for it which is done by an office that will check your birthday.

[DarrinS]

Did you not understand that whole COBOL explanation? You don't need a birthday you just need a year. SS won't change and your birthday only matters when you originally sign up for it which is done by an office that will check your birthday.

"So, if you don't know the date of something, it will be a 0 value, which in COBOL will default to 1875"

[DarrinS]

And you do need an exact date to determine age

[Yonivore]

Did you not understand that whole COBOL explanation? You don't need a birthday you just need a year. SS won't change and your birthday only matters when you originally sign up for it which is done by an office that will check your birthday.
Serious question. Are you a COBOL programmer because, I'm not. The way I read that was dates are recorded by COBOL in serial format with the EPOCH (which I assume means floor, earliest limit, whatever you want to call it) being 1875 or 150 years ago.

Microsoft records date serially and I don't know their EPOCH but, it occurs to me, if the ISO 8601 standard is applied, month, day, year, hour, minute, second, and millisecond can be recorded in a serial format.

[Blake]

And you do need an exact date to determine age

Do you really think they're not entering exact birthdays?

[Trainwreck2100]

Serious question. Are you a COBOL programmer because, I'm not. The way I read that was dates are recorded by COBOL in serial format with the EPOCH (which I assume means floor, earliest limit, whatever you want to call it) being 1875 or 150 years ago.

Microsoft records date serially and I don't know their EPOCH but, it occurs to me, if the ISO 8601 standard is applied, month, day, year, hour, minute, second, and millisecond can be recorded in a serial format.

No, but I've worked with enough databases to know why they'd use less inputs. Yes they could do that but made the decision that's it's not worth the resources, because it's not worth the resources. The verification for DOB is done on the front end so putting in the back end when it doesn't matter is a needless redundancy. And probably wasn't worth the memory at the time. I'd argue, it still isn't now.

[Yonivore]

No, but I've worked with enough databases to know why they'd use less inputs. Yes they could do that but made the decision that's it's not worth the resources, because it's not worth the resources. The verification for DOB is done on the front end so putting in the back end when it doesn't matter is a needless redundancy. And probably wasn't worth the memory at the time. I'd argue, it still isn't now.

Where is that explained in the post about COBOL?

[Trainwreck2100]

Where is that explained in the post about COBOL?

The post said "the year is reported" . And then I went on to explain why you only need the year. Do you understand why you only need the year?

[Yonivore]

The post said "the year is reported" . And then I went on to explain why you only need the year. Do you understand why you only need the year?
I understand your explanation, I just don't read it the same way. You said, in quotes, 'the year is reported.' I don't find that quote in the post unless it's contained in the broader post (not linked). What I see is that COBOL doesn't use the Date Time type but stores the date according to the ISO8601 standard...which can store date/time in serialized form, down to to the millisecond. I don't see anywhere where it states only the year is recorded.

I may be missing it but, I've read Winehole's post a few times now and don't find where the serialized date is stored by year only.

In any case, no date [or year], returning a 0 or 1875, is as bad as a full birthdate showing a 150 year-old recipient.

[DarrinS]

Do you really think they're not entering exact birthdays?

Actually, I do think they enter exact dates. Which is why I don't buy the COBOL "gotcha".

For example: Feb 14, 1875 would be 18750214

They wouldn't see 4 digits as a valid date.

[Blake]

"Earlier this week, inexperienced officials from Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) gained administrative access to the core payment systems at the US Treasury’s Bureau of the Fiscal Service (BFS). Like many Americans, I was shocked. Unlike most Americans, I am in a professional position to understand the potential for catastrophic macroeconomic consequences far beyond the privacy and security concerns suggested in the media and by our elected representatives.

One of the officials with admin access to the Bureau of the Fiscal Service was 25-year-old engineer, Marko Elez, who is unlikely to have experience in the arcane, aging COBOL programming language (dating back to 1959) of the bureau’s payment system, and who meets DOGE’s recruitment criteria of having the hunger to make change. Unfortunately, the line between impatience and recklessness is not clear-cut, and any missteps could upend the entirety of public expenditure in the United States.

Elez resigned from DOGE today over allegations of racism, rather than professional competence. His replacement is just as unlikely to have the kind of experience and temperament required to work with the most mission-critical systems in the United States government. DOGE has stated that it wants to recruit risk-takers who want to “fundamentally remake the federal government” at all costs....."

https://thebulletin.org/2025/02/why-doges-meddling-at-treasury-could-have-catastrophic-consequences-for-the-us-economy/

[SnakeBoy]

COBOL programmers UNITE!

[Blake]

Actually, I do think they enter exact dates. Which is why I don't buy the COBOL "gotcha".

For example: Feb 14, 1875 would be 18750214

They wouldn't see 4 digits as a valid date.

If you don't know why are you making any assumptions that it's fucked up and Elon's crew is fixing it?

[Blake]

COBOL programmers UNITE!

It's always a war huh

[TSA]

https://x.com/DOGE/status/1890507556033876142

[Winehole23]

whoopsie


The website states in tiny print at the bottom that its database excludes information from U.S. intelligence agencies.

But an easy search shows that DOGE’s database provides details on the National Reconnaissance Office, the federal agency that designs, builds and maintains U.S. intelligence satellites. Not only are NRO’s budgets and head counts classified, but the prospect of Musk’s tech team meddling in sensitive personnel information is setting off alarms for some in the intelligence community.

“DOGE just posted secret NOFURN info on their website about [intelligence community] headcount, so currently people are scrambling to check if their info has been accessed,” said one Defense Intelligence Agency employee, who requested anonymity to avoid retaliation from senior leaders.
NOFURN stands for “Not Releasable to Foreign Nationals,” meaning information in this category can’t be shared with any foreign governments, international organizations or foreign nationals without specific authorization.

NRO appears to be the only intelligence agency with its data publicly available on DOGE’s website.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/elon-musk-s-doge-posts-classified-data-on-its-new-website/ar-AA1z4LWL

[ChumpDumper]

Actually, I do think they enter exact dates. Which is why I don't buy the COBOL "gotcha".

For example: Feb 14, 1875 would be 18750214

They wouldn't see 4 digits as a valid date.

I imagine the failure here is thinking this is the one and only place where a birth date is recorded and validated.

[Yonivore]

whoopsie

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/elon-musk-s-doge-posts-classified-data-on-its-new-website/ar-AA1z4LWL
Not that I don't trust the stellar journalist integrity of HuffPost but, I don't. As it stands now, HuffPost (or news organs that get their content from HuffPost [shocked face]) are the only places reporting the "reported" breech of NRO data.

This statement is suspect: "But an easy search shows that DOGE’s database provides details on the National Reconnaissance Office, the federal agency that designs, builds and maintains U.S. intelligence satellites."

The DOGE website doesn't have a search function. And, when you navigate through through the site, following both the Department of Defense (who oversees the NRO) node and follow other agency nodes, under the Executive Branch (where the Director of National Intelligence would be found - under which the NRO is organizationally located), it's not there. Neither is DNI. Only the Security Council is mentioned and it's data isn't there.

I would think CBS, NBC, Politico, CNN, and the other Leftist mouthpieces would have been all over this but, I can't find it on their sites, using Google.

Perhaps Ms. Bendery should have done some screen captures or, at the very least, described how she conducted her "easy search."

[Blake]

What sources do you trust?

[ChumpDumper]

What sources do you trust?

ANONYMOUS BLOGS

[ChumpDumper]

Not that I don't trust the stellar journalist integrity of HuffPost but, I don't. As it stands now, HuffPost (or news organs that get their content from HuffPost [shocked face]) are the only places reporting the "reported" breech of NRO data.

This statement is suspect: "But an easy search shows that DOGE’s database provides details on the National Reconnaissance Office, the federal agency that designs, builds and maintains U.S. intelligence satellites."

The DOGE website doesn't have a search function. And, when you navigate through through the site, following both the Department of Defense (who oversees the NRO) node and follow other agency nodes, under the Executive Branch (where the Director of National Intelligence would be found - under which the NRO is organizationally located), it's not there. Neither is DNI. Only the Security Council is mentioned and it's data isn't there.

I would think CBS, NBC, Politico, CNN, and the other Leftist mouthpieces would have been all over this but, I can't find it on their sites, using Google.

Perhaps Ms. Bendery should have done some screen captures or, at the very least, described how she conducted her "easy search."

:lol the story is like two hours old. Give someone a chance to check it out.

You don't have any trouble amplifying whatever bullshit Elon or Trump spews without checking.

[ducks]

Do you really think they're not entering exact birthdays?

Who taught them you ?

[ducks]

What sources do you trust?

You trust fake news


I can tell because of the stupidity you type

[Winehole23]

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:t46sqvutibvsmjgwn6r6izve/bafkreifio66hk2eshhx77svg7mooksv7xbf2xihm4d6iobisu 7762nztq4@jpeg

[Yonivore]

whoopsie

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/elon-musk-s-doge-posts-classified-data-on-its-new-website/ar-AA1z4LWL
As I suspected, all information on the DOGE website is from the publicly available sites linked at the bottom of the page. You can access them, I can access them, the Taliban can access them. It's public "fedscope data posted by the Office of Personnel Management"...and has been posted by the Office of Personnel Management since before President Trump was President, the first time.

If you have a problem with it, I would suggest you contact your elected representative and express your concern.

[Yonivore]

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:t46sqvutibvsmjgwn6r6izve/bafkreifio66hk2eshhx77svg7mooksv7xbf2xihm4d6iobisu 7762nztq4@jpeg
Who knew San Franciscan law enforcement could do their due diligence?

[ChumpDumper]

As I suspected, all information on the DOGE website is from the publicly available sites linked at the bottom of the page. You can access them, I can access them, the Taliban can access them. It's public "fedscope data posted by the Office of Personnel Management"...and has been posted by the Office of Personnel Management since before President Trump was President, the first time.

If you have a problem with it, I would suggest you contact your elected representative and express your concern.

Why is Elon's financial disclosure a state secret?

[DMX7]

https://x.com/usedgov/status/1889800715826282776

Is the Department of Educations Budget $9M? :lol

[ChumpDumper]

Here's an easy cut, right?

1887989765754044484

https://x.com/JenGriffinFNC/status/1887989765754044484

[TSA]

Here's an easy cut, right?

1887989765754044484

https://x.com/JenGriffinFNC/status/1887989765754044484

:lol pathetically desperate

Hegseth didn’t request over $137,000 in upgrades to his new military residence, official says

WASHINGTON (AP) — Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth did not request more than $137,000 in repairs and upgrades to military housing at Fort McNair that will become his official residence, according to a U.S. official familiar with the work order, who says the Army undertook the repairs on its own since the more than 100-year-old home had sat vacant for a year and needed security upgrades.

https://apnews.com/article/hegseth-military-housing-costs-congress-6f9f9b2275ad2e73479ad07a62575783

[TSA]

https://x.com/doge/status/1890849405932077378

[TSA]

https://x.com/doge/status/1891614960452522187

[ChumpDumper]

:lol pathetically desperate

Hegseth didn’t request over $137,000 in upgrades to his new military residence, official says

WASHINGTON (AP) — Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth did not request more than $137,000 in repairs and upgrades to military housing at Fort McNair that will become his official residence, according to a U.S. official familiar with the work order, who says the Army undertook the repairs on its own since the more than 100-year-old home had sat vacant for a year and needed security upgrades.

https://apnews.com/article/hegseth-military-housing-costs-congress-6f9f9b2275ad2e73479ad07a62575783
No one said he requested it.

Is it being audited?

[ChumpDumper]

https://x.com/doge/status/1890849405932077378

All these programs are fully described by DOGE somewhere, right?

[TSA]

All these programs are fully described by DOGE somewhere, right?

https://doge.gov/savings

You’re welcome to look for yourself. If they aren’t uploaded yet they will be.

[ChumpDumper]

https://doge.gov/savings

You’re welcome to look for yourself. If they aren’t uploaded yet they will be.No. You posted the programs.

Where is the full description of each.

Let's see the transparency.

[TSA]

No. You posted the programs.

Where is the full description of each.

Let's see the transparency.

You asked me to do the exact same thing from a list of ridiculous USAID grants I posted that you doubted were true and I started going through them one by one providing you links to the ridiculous grants on gov websites and you shut the fuck up quickly and all of the sudden didn’t want to talk about them anymore. I’m not going to waste my time doing the same thing again. You’ve been given the link, look for yourself if you’re curious.

[ChumpDumper]

You asked me to do the exact same thing from a list of ridiculous USAID grants I posted that you doubted were true and I started going through them one by one providing you links to the ridiculous grants on gov websites and you shut the fuck up quickly and all of the sudden didn’t want to talk about them anymore. I’m not going to waste my time doing the same thing again. You’ve been given the link, look for yourself if you’re curious.TSA folds.

You didn't provide links to the grants -- just DOGE descriptions of grants.

They didn't even get the right Gaza, dude. Don't you think that's stupid?

[scott]

I was impressed at DOGE's ability to uncover the issue with the millions of people of people over the age of 100 in a Social Security Database.

It must have been really hard to discover this thing that the SSA already knew, isn't resulting in any material amount of incorrect Social Security benefits being paid, and would cost more to fix than it would potentially save. Great work! https://oig.ssa.gov/assets/uploads/a-06-21-51022.pdf

There are approximately 89,000 Americans age 99 or over receiving Social Security benefits, which is fewer than the number of Americans aged 99 or older currently living, per the US Census Bureau. But, let's get our panties in a twist because one database somewhere doesn't list death records. Real elite detective work at play here.

[ChumpDumper]

I mean just from a cursory look, circumcision is one of the ways the spread of AIDS is slowed in Africa.

AIDS prevention bad now.

[TSA]

TSA folds.

You didn't provide links to the grants -- just DOGE descriptions of grants.

They didn't even get the right Gaza, dude. Don't you think that's stupid?

It’s truly pathetic how much you lie here. The last time you asked me to do this I went through the grants you one by one and linked the ridiculous USAID awards directly from the usaspending.gov website and you shut the fuck up and didn’t want to discuss them after having been proven wrong. I’m not going to waste my time doing it again.

[Blake]

TSA folds.

You didn't provide links to the grants -- just DOGE descriptions of grants.

They didn't even get the right Gaza, dude. Don't you think that's stupid?

Shit they didn't get Reuters right

[ChumpDumper]

It’s truly pathetic how much you lie here. The last time you asked me to do this I went through the grants you one by one and linked the ridiculous USAID awards directly from the usaspending.gov website Right.

That's not the actual grant.

That just had a little description that led to Elon's thinking Reuters was being paid for "mass deception"

Those are not the actual grants.

The actual grant awards would be large documents fully describing the grant.

You're either being really stupid or really dishonest.

Which is it?

[TSA]

Right.

That's not the actual grant.

That just had a little description that led to Elon's thinking Reuters was being paid for "mass deception"

Those are not the actual grants.

The actual grant awards would be large documents fully describing the grant.

You're either being really stupid or really dishonest.

Which is it?

I never once mentioned Reuters, nice strawman.

You didn’t believe the grants I previously listed were true and I showed you they were actual grants and linked the awards directly from the usaspending.gov website.

You’re caught in a lie and now stuck lying more and moving goalpost.You’re as dishonest as they come.

[ChumpDumper]

I never once mentioned Reuters, nice strawman. Elon did. That's why I said Elon.


Not you.

Genius.


You didn’t believe the grants I previously listed were true and I showed you they were actual grants and linked the awards directly from the usaspending.gov website.

You’re caught in a lie and now stuck lying more and moving goalpost.You’re as dishonest as they come.Nope. You didn't show me the grants.

Do you know what a grant is?

You just regurgitated the spending amounts and demand I comment on them without knowing what they actually were.

You have a long history of this bullshit. These may as well be the Q-drops you posted and never questioned.

You need to be a cult member. It's who you are.

[Thread]

It’s truly pathetic how much you lie here. The last time you asked me to do this I went through the grants you one by one and linked the ridiculous USAID awards directly from the usaspending.gov website and you shut the fuck up and didn’t want to discuss them after having been proven wrong. I’m not going to waste my time doing it again.

That's the Dumper.

[velik_m]

DOGE Claimed It Saved $8 Billion in One Contract. It Was Actually $8 Million.

The Department of Government Efficiency, the federal cost-cutting initiative championed by Elon Musk, published on Monday a list of government contracts it has canceled, together amounting to about $16 billion in savings itemized on a new “wall of receipts” on its website.

Almost half of those line-item savings could be attributed to a single $8 billion contract for the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency. But it appears that the DOGE list vastly overstated the actual intended value of that contract. A closer scrutiny of a federal database shows that a recent version of the contract was for $8 million, not $8 billion. A larger total savings number published on the site, $55 billion, lacked specific documentation.

The contract, with a company called D&G Support Services, was to provide “program and technical support services” for the Office of Diversity and Civil Rights at ICE. The Trump administration has been purging diversity programs from the federal government.

...

Even the $8 million is an upper bound on the amount saved by canceling the contract. Since $2.5 million had already been spent on the contract, according to data on USAspending.gov, that suggests that canceling it saved $5.5 million at most.

A spokeswoman for DOGE did not respond to a request to explain the department’s accounting.

The $7.992 billion mistake was discovered simply because it was the first item The Upshot reviewed, after sorting the list by the savings amount.

...


https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/18/upshot/doge-contracts-musk-trump.html

[Winehole23]

lies, shitposting and totally decontextualized line items

[Blake]

lies, shitposting and totally decontextualized line items

They've figured out long ago that their base will believe everything they say. They should have gone ahead and said they've already saved $8 trillion

[Thread]

lies, shitposting and totally decontextualized line items

Nonetheless 8 million smackers ain't nothing to sneeze at, Winester.

[Thread]

They've figured out long ago that their base will believe everything they say. They should have gone ahead and said they've already saved $8 trillion


Nonetheless 8 million smackers ain't nothing to sneeze at, Blake.

[ChumpDumper]

Fucking morons can't tell the difference between a million and a billion.

[Thread]

Fucking morons can't tell the difference between a million and a billion.

Said million is still better than nothin', Dumper.

[z0sa]

Since Elon Musk is a liar and isn't actually running DOGE, who is? It's not Trump.

[Winehole23]

Since Elon Musk is a liar and isn't actually running DOGE, who is? It's not Trump.the beauty part of living in autocracy is that the people never get to find out

[Yonivore]

the beauty part of living in autocracy is that the people never get to find out
Well, the DOGE employee auditing the Internal Revenue Service is a software engineer named, Gavin Kliger. Mr. Kliger is tasked with working with the IRS (acting) Commissioner, over the next 120 days, to find inefficiencies, fraud, malfeasance, theft, corruption, etc...

One of the things already discovered - and this will interest those that are all hung up on 1 person at DOGE having access to Treasury data - is that TIGTA (Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration) issued a report on September 9, 2024, in which it was revealed the Biden administration allow up to 919 individuals access to Treasury Data. According to TIGTA, approximately 20 of these individuals were researchers and student volunteers.

I know I can just feel the outrage building against the former President.

https://www.tigta.gov/sites/default/files/reports/2024-09/2024200042fr.pdf

[Blake]

Well, the DOGE employee auditing the Internal Revenue Service is a software engineer named, Gavin Kliger. Mr. Kliger is tasked with working with the IRS (acting) Commissioner, over the next 120 days, to find inefficiencies, fraud, malfeasance, theft, corruption, etc...

One of the things already discovered - and this will interest those that are all hung up on 1 person at DOGE having access to Treasury data - is that TIGTA (Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration) issued a report on September 9, 2024, in which it was revealed the Biden administration allow up to 919 individuals access to Treasury Data. According to TIGTA, approximately 20 of these individuals were researchers and student volunteers.

I know I can just feel the outrage building against the former President.

https://www.tigta.gov/sites/default/files/reports/2024-09/2024200042fr.pdf

It's not the quantity, it's the who. Do we have a list of the 919?

[Yonivore]

It's not the quantity, it's the who. Do we have a list of the 919?
I don't know, read the report. To you it may be the who. For me, it's the why.

Just because you don't like Elon Musk does not mean he and DOGE don't have the authority to audit the Treasury books. What DOGE is doing is exactly what President Obama created the U. S. Digital Services to do...make government systems more efficient.

U. S. DIGITAL SERVICE (https://www.usds.gov/mission#:~:text=Founded%20by%20President%20Obama%2 0in,our%20government's%20approach%20to%20technolog y.)


Our mission
To deliver better government services to the American people through technology and design.

[z0sa]

I don't know, read the report. To you it may be the who. For me, it's the why.

Just because you don't like Elon Musk does not mean he and DOGE don't have the authority to audit the Treasury books. What DOGE is doing is exactly what President Obama created the U. S. Digital Services to do...make government systems more efficient.

Elon Musk doesn't even work for DOGE. It's a sham, point blank, with no oversight and no meaningful plan of action other than destroy the lives of Americans you don't like and plenty you do (or should). You're barely even saving any money - it's clearly about fear and scaring civil servants into never going against anything Trump does, lest they lose their livelihoods.

You're morally reprehensible and a bad person.

[Leetonidas]

Elon just makes up fake numbers and the rubes eat it up :lol bunch of morons

The same folks who don't trust the government sure love blindly swallowing everything they're being fed by them now :lol

[z0sa]

Elon just makes up fake numbers and the rubes eat it up :lol bunch of morons

The same folks who don't trust the government sure love blindly swallowing everything they're being fed by them now :lol

Gubmint good now. There was once a time when being a conservative meant having morals, or at least, acting like it.

Now they jump for joy when cancer research gets cut by a guy with 4 baby's mommas and 14 children. Y'all are literally batshit crazy insane, morally corrupt, hate everything your savior stands for, and fools to boot.

[Blake]

I don't know, read the report. To you it may be the who. For me, it's the why.

Just because you don't like Elon Musk does not mean he and DOGE don't have the authority to audit the Treasury books. What DOGE is doing is exactly what President Obama created the U. S. Digital Services to do...make government systems more efficient.

U. S. DIGITAL SERVICE (https://www.usds.gov/mission#:~:text=Founded%20by%20President%20Obama%2 0in,our%20government's%20approach%20to%20technolog y.)

Conflicts of interest are illegal. That's one reason why Musk is trying to make it clear as possible he's not part of DOGE even though he is.

Why you Trump tards put in so much work to shield them is beyond me

[Yonivore]

Elon Musk doesn't even work for DOGE. It's a sham, point blank, with no oversight and no meaningful plan of action other than destroy the lives of Americans you don't like and plenty you do (or should). You're barely even saving any money - it's clearly about fear and scaring civil servants into never going against anything Trump does, lest they lose their livelihoods.

You're morally reprehensible and a bad person.
Well, the plan is to cut government waste, fraud, and abuse and I'm all in for that.

Elon Musk is a special advisor to the President -- many Presidents before this one has had them. It appears the President has tasked him with organizing DOGE to execute his agenda, with respect to government efficiency. I'm as good with that as Obama was with creating USDS to fix Obamacare and a couple of other government efficiency issues.

As for the estimated 250K federal employees losing their jobs? Yes, it's unfortunate but, industries/businesses change. Think of all the lost employment when car manufacturers left Detroit; or, when government regulations closed down who swathes of industries. The federal government isn't a charity; no one has the right to a government job. If the job is, through an efficiency audit, deemed unnecessary, it would be morally reprehensible to force the U. S. Taxpayer to continue paying their wages.

[ChumpDumper]

Well, the DOGE employee auditing the Internal Revenue Service is a software engineer named, Gavin Kliger. Mr. Kliger is tasked with working with the IRS (acting) Commissioner, over the next 120 days, to find inefficiencies, fraud, malfeasance, theft, corruption, etc...

One of the things already discovered - and this will interest those that are all hung up on 1 person at DOGE having access to Treasury data - is that TIGTA (Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration) issued a report on September 9, 2024, in which it was revealed the Biden administration allow up to 919 individuals access to Treasury Data. According to TIGTA, approximately 20 of these individuals were researchers and student volunteers.

I know I can just feel the outrage building against the former President.

https://www.tigta.gov/sites/default/files/reports/2024-09/2024200042fr.pdf

Properly trained and vetted and monitored people.

Since you're doing so much research, why is Elon's financial disclosure a state secret?

[ChumpDumper]

Well, the plan is to cut government waste, fraud, and abuse and I'm all in for that.

Elon Musk is a special advisor to the President -- many Presidents before this one has had them. It appears the President has tasked him with organizing DOGE to execute his agenda, with respect to government efficiency. I'm as good with that as Obama was with creating USDS to fix Obamacare and a couple of other government efficiency issues.

As for the estimated 250K federal employees losing their jobs? Yes, it's unfortunate but, industries/businesses change. Think of all the lost employment when car manufacturers left Detroit; or, when government regulations closed down who swathes of industries. The federal government isn't a charity; no one has the right to a government job. If the job is, through an efficiency audit, deemed unnecessary, it would be morally reprehensible to force the U. S. Taxpayer to continue paying their wages.

Why do Trump and Elon keep being fucking morons?

[Thread]

Why do Trump and Elon keep being fucking morons?

Because in turn Trump whooped the dog shit out of Biden, then Harris. Left 'em where he found 'em; dead in the ground.

[Yonivore]

Properly trained and vetted and monitored people.
Says who?


Since you're doing so much research, why is Elon's financial disclosure a state secret?
I don't really care, Margaret.

[ChumpDumper]

Says who?Says normal government procedure that everyone used to follow before you decided rules and laws shouldn't apply anymore.



I don't really care, Margaret.Why not? You said you wanted transparency in the federal government. Why are you so selective with your concern?

[ChumpDumper]

Says who?Your own link, you fucking moron.

We determined that all 1,173 CDW users as of April 2024 completed each of the four mandatory
training courses. Per the IRM, Security and Privacy literacy training shall be provided to all
system users and be completed within the following specified time frames:
• As part of initial training for new users and annually thereafter.
• Within five days of being granted access to an IRS system.
• Within 60 days of being granted access to an IRS system, if the user reviews and
accepts the IRS’s rules of behavior within five days of being granted access


Have Elon and his stooges done this?

Or do you not care anymore?

[Yonivore]

Says normal government procedure that everyone used to follow before you decided rules and laws shouldn't apply anymore.
You believe unknown federal workers properly vetted the 919 (including college kids) who were given access to the data? Okay.


Why not? You said you wanted transparency in the federal government. Why are you so selective with your concern?
Because I don't, Chumpy. Stew on it. Musk hasn't given me any reason to distrust him. Besides, just because they're not genuflecting before the Left and media (damn my redundancy) and answering every stupid loaded question that gets thrown at them doesn't mean they're not following the law.

I'm beginning to appreciate the amount of planning that went into what the President is doing. Using the USDS was brilliant and, by acting fast, it's left the corrupt on the Left and Right, stumbling for ways to stop the effort. The American people support what he's doing. That's good enough for me.

[ChumpDumper]

You believe unknown federal workers properly vetted the 919 (including college kids) who were given access to the data? Okay.Absolutely. Read your link, moron.



Because I don't, Chumpy. Stew on it. Musk hasn't given me any reason to distrust him. Besides, just because they're not genuflecting before the Left and media (damn my redundancy) and answering every stupid loaded question that gets thrown at them doesn't mean they're not following the law.

I'm beginning to appreciate the amount of planning that went into what the President is doing. Using the USDS was brilliant and, by acting fast, it's left the corrupt on the Left and Right, stumbling for ways to stop the effort. The American people support what he's doing. That's good enough for me.
Why are he and Elon constantly fucking up like fucking morons?

[Yonivore]

Absolutely. Read your link, moron.
You believe it though ... just because they say it?

The previous administration wasn't known for its vetting. Remember the properly vetted alien that tried to commit a terrorist attack, Margaret?

[ChumpDumper]

You believe it though ... just because they say it?Inspectors General?

Yes.

You believed this report up until now.

Why are you shitting on yourself? Either you believe the report you're using for your argument or you don't.


The previous administration wasn't known for its vetting. Remember the properly vetted alien that tried to commit a terrorist attack, Margaret?Great, show me all the vetting and training Elon and his gang have gone through.

I'm sure all the information has been made completely transparent to the American people. That's really important to you, remember?

[Thread]

Inspectors General?

Yes.

You believed this report up until now.

Why are you shitting on yourself? Either you believe the report you're using for your argument or you don't.

Great, show me all the vetting and training Elon and his gang have gone through.

I'm sure all the information has been made completely transparent to the American people. That's really important to you, remember?

...when Trump had Mel bend over and release the choker chain from "Elon and his gang."

[Trill Clinton]

I see the talk of $5k doge checks coming to Americans, how do yall feel about that? I know the left doesn't like handouts so it'll be interesting to see this play out.

[Yonivore]

I see the talk of $5k doge checks coming to Americans, how do yall feel about that? I know the left doesn't like handouts so it'll be interesting to see this play out.
My understanding is, if approved, it'll only go to taxpayers.

[Trill Clinton]

My understanding is, if approved, it'll only go to taxpayers.

You cool with that? Last time we got checks it impacted our taxes. I dont see how this is gone be any different.

[Yonivore]

You cool with that? Last time we got checks it impacted our taxes. I dont see how this is gone be any different.
I don't know. I thought I read it would be a refund (as in overpaid taxes - during prior tax years). You don't claim refunds on taxes now so, I would expect it'd be the same. The Stimulus Checks were considered income so, that's why they impacted your taxes.

[Winehole23]

The second Trump bailout is going to be awesomer than the first, and as a bonus, he'll wreck the US government and replace it with corruption

[Winehole23]

El0n is just the first billionaire to put a US president in his pocket

I'm sure his billionaire buddies are already jealous and looking to acquire their own

[Yonivore]

... replace it with corruption
You don't court reality much, do you, Winehole?

[Yonivore]

El0n is just the first billionaire to put a US president in his pocket

I'm sure his billionaire buddies are already jealous and looking to acquire their own
Let me know when you discover the first Quid Pro Quo between President Trump and Elon Musk.

Neither are taking a government salary. All the contracts earned by Tesla were executed prior to his involvement with DOGE -- and some of the biggest, during the last Democrat administration who, by the way, looooooved electric vehicles.

I'm still wondering how Musk would have President Trump in his pocket.

And, I don't think his "billionaire buddies" have the stomach to weather all the nonsense being thrown at Musk for simply stepping up to bring efficiency and accountability to the federal government.

[Winehole23]

You don't court reality much, do you, Winehole?Well of course I would say the same thing about you

[Winehole23]

Let me know when you discover the first Quid Pro Quo between President Trump and Elon Musk.

Neither are taking a government salary. All the contracts earned by Tesla were executed prior to his involvement with DOGE -- and some of the biggest, during the last Democrat administration who, by the way, looooooved electric vehicles.

I'm still wondering how Musk would have President Trump in his pocket.

And, I don't think his "billionaire buddies" have the stomach to weather all the nonsense being thrown at Musk for simply stepping up to bring efficiency and accountability to the federal government.

:lmao

[Yonivore]

:lmao
So, you've got nothing but your own bias-driven opinions about Trump and Musk. Fair enough.

[Yonivore]

:lmao
Winning...

Chutkan refuses to block Musk, DOGE from 7 federal agencies (https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5151676-chutkan-musk-doge-federal-agencies/)

Judge refuses to block DOGE’s access to student borrower data (https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5150268-judge-refuses-to-block-doges-access-to-student-borrower-data/)

Trump asks court to allow firing of watchdog agency official (https://www.scotusblog.com/2025/02/trump-asks-court-to-allow-firing-of-watchdog-agency-official/)

The Supremes ordered Dellinger to respond to the administration's filing by 2:00 P.M. today. He did, trying to argue the circuit courts were already expediting his case and there was no need to get involved. the Chutzpah of someone telling the Supreme Court to butt out of their legal fight. I don't know how they're going to ultimately rule but, that was pretty damn funny.

Bellinger's response:

Bessent v. Dellinger (https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/24/24A790/343020/20250218140003661_Dellinger%20-%20SCOTUS%20Opposition.pdf?utm_source=chatgpt.com)

I don't think the Administration has filed anything further but, I suspect they're trying to get the following into some kind of legal format, suitable for filing in the U. S. Supreme Court.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jynTIzUIQTc

What it boils down to is the courts are going to come to the conclusion the Executive has exclusive control over the Executive Branch. Period. He can hire and fire, he can reorganize and move programs around, he can stop spending waste when it's found.

Like I said somewhere, the Trump team was prepared on day one with actions, they knew would be challenged but, that they also believed would prevail. Hey, if your blood pressure isn't high enough, check out today's Executive Order, it addresses all of this by reasserting his authority as the Executive - in the Executive Branch of Government:

Ensuring Accountability for All Agencies (https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/02/ensuring-accountability-for-all-agencies/)

The President continues to move forward while the Left and the media flail along behind him.

[Winehole23]

That's autocracy, man

[Yonivore]

That's autocracy, man
No, it's not. The Courts and Congress still exist as the other two co-equal branches of government.

If he actually does something illegal or unconstitutional, that's what they're there for.

Hell, even that Obama-appointed Judge, US district judge Tanya Chutkan, had to fold because she realized Trump was within his authority as the Executive.

Just because previous Presidents have allowed unelected bureaucrats set up a shadow government and rule by regulation, encumbering OUR hard-earn tax dollars for things most reasonable Americans would have never approved, doesn't mean ALL Presidents must do that. I think the buck has finally stopped at the right desk. Yeah, it's ugly to watch all the caterwauling over losing the government gravy train but, no one expected there to be no pain.

[Winehole23]

So, you've got nothing but your own bias-driven opinions about Trump and Musk. Fair enough.Hell yes I am biased against a criminal junta that is stealing a government made by laws

[Winehole23]

and wrecking the form of government into the bargain

it's revolutionary

[Winehole23]

no president has ever stolen appropriations and stopped US transfers like this

[Yonivore]

Hell yes I am biased against a criminal junta that is stealing a government made by laws
Name a law he's violated in his efforts to bring the bloated federal government (over which he's the Executive) to heel?

Repurposing the USDS was a brilliant move.
Starting with the most egregious agencies, USAID, Education, and Treasury -- again, brilliant.

Surely, you don't think Trump sat down and planned this whole strategy by himself? No, he assembled a team (I've heard estimates of over 1,000 people) that researched every action he wanted to take as the incoming President. I'm sure they found the loopholes and exploited them like Trump does his taxes.

One for instance; Like you and other, I assumed Elon Musk was the Administrator of DOGE. Well, they've revealed he is not. The Administrator of DOGE reports to the President's Chief of Staff and, while DOGE must have an Administrator, his identity doesn't have to be disclosed. Yes, President Obama identified his Administrator of the USDS but, he wasn't charged with fundamentally restructuring the Executive Branch, auditing the books, and making recommendations for drastic cuts in spending and staffing. Can you imagine that pour soul's life if people knew his identity? I believe that's why Elon Musk has allowed himself to be the lightening rod for what DOGE is doing. That and because, he's assisted with staffing the service with competent programmers like Big Balls. And, as President Trump's Special Advisor, he can pretty much put his hands on whatever the President allows.

I guarantee you Trump had better lawyers than you or I or Chuck Schumer that sat down and went over every proposed action, with a fine tooth comb, to make sure it was legal and constitutional. All we're seeing is the Left catching up. The cases will be filed and, for the most part, they'll be decided in Trump's favor. Where they're not, they'll be appealed through the courts or, in an emergency, to the Supreme Court where, they'll in all likelihood be decided in Trump's favor.

[Yonivore]

no president has ever stolen appropriations and stopped US transfers like this
Stolen? That suggests he's keeping them.

But, withholding encumbrances and funding because of waste, fraud, abuse, corruption, etc... Maybe some other Presidents should have been paying closer attention and they might have.

[Winehole23]

Trump's violating impoundment like he did last time.

It's per se impeachable

[Winehole23]

Stolen? That suggests he's keeping them.

But, withholding encumbrances and funding because of waste, fraud, abuse, corruption, etc... Maybe some other Presidents should have been paying closer attention and they might have.Trump fired the people who know the most about all that: the IGs and the ethics officials

[Yonivore]

and wrecking the form of government into the bargain

it's revolutionary
The Administrative Branch was never envisioned as a branch of government separate from the Executive. There is no 4th branch of government. If you read the U. S. Constitution it clearly says, in Article II, Section 1, Paragraph 1, "The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America."

Singular "a President."

I don't think it could be more clear, Winehole.

[Blake]

El0n is just the first billionaire to put a US president in his pocket

I'm sure his billionaire buddies are already jealous and looking to acquire their own

That we know of. He's just doing it brazenly in front of everyone's faces.

[Winehole23]

Yonivore, dude, you're full of it

Fuck all that noise

[Blake]

Name a law he's violated in his efforts to bring the bloated federal government (over which he's the Executive) to heel?


Under 18 U.S.C. § 208

[Yonivore]

Yonivore, dude, you're full of it

Fuck all that noise
Running out of arguments? Not that you've had any up to now. Just a bunch of accusations, without support, because you have a stick up your butt over Trump bringing the Executive Branch back to order.

[Yonivore]

Under 18 U.S.C. § 208
So, how has Trump violated a conflict-of-interest law? Because, courts have already held that Presidents are not subject to 18 U.S.C. § 208.

Musk? I think there are cases filed and pending. But, as of yet, no criminal charges. All attempts, so far filed in courts, have not resulted in your desired result, Blake.

I guess we'll find out.

[Winehole23]

dude, you're brainwashed

[Thread]

dude, you're brainwashed

And you're overwrought, Winester.

Cool your jets, old horse.

- Dale

[ChumpDumper]

So, how has Trump violated a conflict-of-interest law? Because, courts have already held that Presidents are not subject to 18 U.S.C. § 208.

Musk? I think there are cases filed and pending. But, as of yet, no criminal charges. All attempts, so far filed in courts, have not resulted in your desired result, Blake.

I guess we'll find out.In your experience, what contractor has "audited" the government with which that contractor has contracts?

Please make a list.

[Blake]

So, how has Trump violated a conflict-of-interest law? Because, courts have already held that Presidents are not subject to 18 U.S.C. § 208.

Musk? I think there are cases filed and pending. But, as of yet, no criminal charges. All attempts, so far filed in courts, have not resulted in your desired result, Blake.

I guess we'll find out.

Yes Musk.

They're not even trying.


"....Despite signing more than two dozen executive orders on his first day in office, President Donald Trump has yet to release ethics rules for his administration.

At the very beginning of presidential administrations, presidents are expected to issue an executive order outlining ethics constraints for all political appointees in that administration.

By failing to do so, Trump has opened the door to further conflicts of interest that disregard the ethics standards that have been a mainstay of the executive branch for the last 50 years....."

https://campaignlegal.org/update/day-one-his-presidency-trump-ignored-yet-another-ethics-norm

[Yonivore]

dude, you're brainwashed
How so?

[Blake]

How so?

:lol

[Thread]

How so?

You won & Winester can't brook it.

[Blake]

"...A new online tracker on the Department of Government Efficiency's website puts a dollar amount on the estimated savings from the DOGE effort to slash federal government spending at $55 billion.

But an NPR analysis finds the numbers don't add up.

The DOGE site's posts, reminiscent of a feed on the Musk-owned social media site X, say some savings come from sources like "fraud detection/deletion" and "workforce reductions, programmatic changes, and regulatory savings," and state that the full disclosure of the unit's actions will take time....

.....In all, estimated savings from the initial DOGE list of just over 500 contracts that NPR found to be cancelled runs closer to $2 billion, with roughly half coming from the gutting of the Department of Education, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau and the U.S. Agency for International Development.

The contracts DOGE has targeted at these agencies include ending research studies into early childhood education improvements, canceling access to financial market resources and the proposed halting of billions in international foreign aid work. To check DOGE's claims, NPR compared the unique award ID from each hyperlink DOGE published with a list of more than 130,000 contracts that have been modified since Jan. 20, downloaded from USASpending.gov, another public data source to review government spending...."

https://www.npr.org/2025/02/19/nx-s1-5302705/doge-overstates-savings-federal-contracts

Lol gullible idiots.

You Trump tards will still claim fake news

[TSA]

I'm concerned that many people do not understand the historical and institutional context in which the DOGE labor reforms are unfolding. They look at this as if these are some random, chaotic, arbitrary, strange, and even cruel measures to impose on a devoted civil service.

The reality is very different, and I'm not even sure that Elon entirely understands this. For more than a century, even dating back to 1883, the civil service has grown and grown without check from the elected branch, either the presidency or the legislature . The bureaucracies have ballooned from a few to 450 or so. The bloat and absurdities have grown too.

Get this: no one has ever known what to do about it. Not Coolidge, not Hoover, not Nixon, not Reagan, not Clinton, no one. No president has been able to crack this nut. The only reforms ever to have made it through are those that make the administrative state bigger, never smaller.

Countless cabinet secretaries have come and gone, always with the intention of making a change but leaving saddened, demoralized, outwitted, outgunned, and ultimately devoured.

No president has seriously taken on this problem because they simply did not know how. The unions are powerful, the intimidation from the deep institutional knowledge is overwhelming, the fear of the media as been powerful, and every single president comes to power vaguely feeling threatened by the intelligence agencies. The industries that have captured every single agency were also far too powerful to unseat or control.

This combination of institutional inertia has blocked serious reform for a full century. No one has dared. No one has even had a theory or strategy about what to do about this problem. It had become so terrible that most people in politics have simply surrendered, like homeowners who know there are rats in the basement and bats in the attic but long ago gave up trying to fix the issue.

All this time, the American people have felt themselves ever more oppressed, weighed upon, taxed and regulated, spied upon, brow beaten, and otherwise overwhelmed. Voting never made any difference because the politicians no longer controlled the system. The bureaucracies ruled all.

The Biden years underscored the point. We didn't even need a conscious and present executive. We only needed a figurehead to pretend to be president, just like the Soviet premiers in the old days. The institutions ran everything and the people controlled nothing.

How to deal with this? Trump alone figured it out in his last term: he simply took charge of the agencies in a limited way. There were screams of horror and plots galore. They performed a long stream of clever schemes to destroy him and show him who is boss, which is not the democratically elected president but the forces behind the scenes.

The job of the president, goes the message from all the insiders, is to PRETEND to be in charge but not actually do anything meaningful. Shut up, mug up, obey, and disturb nothing, let the administrative state do its thing without oversight or disruption, and then you will get your honorary library and bestselling autobiography and go down in history as great.

Trump refused the deal and look what happened.

Four years have gone by and Trump is back again, this time with a determination to slay this beast, one that he knows all-to-well. The efforts of DOGE and MAHA and MAGA are epic in scope, breaking a century of pathetic acquiescence toward the deep, middle, and shallow states, at last using moral courage to confront the problem head on, come what may.

They are profoundly aware that they MUST act fast and with some degree of ferocity, even recklessness, else we will default back to the status quo of leaders who pretend to be in charge while the embedded system runs things behind the scenes.

It has been this way for TOO LONG. The voters this time have demanded change, and mustered the faith to believe that change is possible. This is precisely what DOGE is attempting, to make good on a promise, a promise that for once the voters actually believed was credible.

They simply must succeed. There might never be another chance. The way of failure is the path everyone knows the US was on, toward economic stagnation, political scolerosis, and eventual irrelevance in the unfolding of the next stage of social evolution.

https://x.com/jeffreyatucker/status/1893787435659674034

[Winehole23]

lol reforms

[Winehole23]

DOGE is shite at accounting

Shitposting isn't an audit

Literally no waste and fraud have been identified -- try going to court with evidence and swearing it under oath





One of the entries on the DOGE website, first reported by The Intercept (https://theintercept.com/2025/02/20/doge-social-security-cuts-musk-receipts/), claimed to save $232 million by canceling a technology contract with the Social Security Administration. The only aspect of the contract that was canceled, however, was "a project to develop an 'X' gender marker for the agency’s internal databases." That cancellation, part of a larger anti-trans agenda, will produce $560,000 in savings. The rest of the contract is unchanged.




Politico analyzed (https://www.politico.com/news/2025/02/22/doge-data-errors-inconsistencies-00002576) the data and identified "at least 14 instances where items are repeated, totaling $325 million in claimed savings." Among the duplicates was "a single $25 million item under the Agriculture Department" that was repeated four times. DOGE counted each vendor authorized to bid on the contract as a separate item. Actually, there are "only two finalized contracts from the vendors listed," and they have "been awarded less than $1 million."




In other cases, DOGE claimed credit for canceling contracts that had already expired (https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/21/upshot/doge-musk-trump-errors.html). Michigan-based environmental scientist David Reid decided to let "his contract studying invasive species in the St. Lawrence Seaway" expire on December 31, 2024, because he is planning to retire. He was surprised to find the contract included in the list of "savings" claimed by DOGE.



Overall, the Washington Post found (https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/02/22/doge-savings-found-list-analysis/) "417 of the deals on DOGE’s list indicate that they saved $0" because they were already completed. Another 51 canceled contracts collectively saved less than $1 million.




The DOGE website links its claimed savings to information about the contracts on the Federal Procurement Data System (https://www.fpds.gov/). In several cases, however, the claimed savings and the linked contract do not match, raising questions about what contract — if any — was actually canceled. For example, "DOGE reported a canceled contract with National Jewish Health to support research on lung diseases," but linked to "a contract with the University of Oklahoma for cardiovascular research." National Jewish Health told Politico (https://www.politico.com/news/2025/02/22/doge-data-errors-inconsistencies-00002576) that it had not been informed that its grant had been canceled or cut.




Along with contracts, the DOGE website boasts of $144 million in savings from "canceling or renegotiating 97 leases for office space and other real estate used by federal agencies." But, according to an analysis (https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/02/22/doge-savings-found-list-analysis/) from the Washington Post, "[s]ixteen of DOGE’s 20 largest savings on real estate were calculated by assuming that those leases would otherwise have continued for another five years." In fact, "all 20 were already due to expire within the next two years — and most this year." The inflated savings accounts for $104 million of the $144 million of total claimed savings.


https://www.muskwatch.com/p/doges-disastrous-accounting

[Winehole23]

TSA is probably the most gullible "smart idiot" on this subforum

[Spurminator]

Yonivore is back and posting 100 times a day here? Must've lost a job?

The same guy who breathlessly argued on behalf of the GWB presidency is now breathlessly defending a President who got nominated in the first place by shitting all over the GWB presidency?

In ten years he'll be defending a Republican POTUS candidate who shows open disdain for the Trump presidency. These people have no conviction, they're just lonely and angry.

[ChumpDumper]

I'm concerned that many people do not understand the historical and institutional context in which the DOGE labor reforms are unfolding. They look at this as if these are some random, chaotic, arbitrary, strange, and even cruel measures to impose on a devoted civil service.

The reality is very different, and I'm not even sure that Elon entirely understands this. For more than a century, even dating back to 1883, the civil service has grown and grown without check from the elected branch, either the presidency or the legislature . The bureaucracies have ballooned from a few to 450 or so. The bloat and absurdities have grown too.

Get this: no one has ever known what to do about it. Not Coolidge, not Hoover, not Nixon, not Reagan, not Clinton, no one. No president has been able to crack this nut. The only reforms ever to have made it through are those that make the administrative state bigger, never smaller.

Countless cabinet secretaries have come and gone, always with the intention of making a change but leaving saddened, demoralized, outwitted, outgunned, and ultimately devoured.

No president has seriously taken on this problem because they simply did not know how. The unions are powerful, the intimidation from the deep institutional knowledge is overwhelming, the fear of the media as been powerful, and every single president comes to power vaguely feeling threatened by the intelligence agencies. The industries that have captured every single agency were also far too powerful to unseat or control.

This combination of institutional inertia has blocked serious reform for a full century. No one has dared. No one has even had a theory or strategy about what to do about this problem. It had become so terrible that most people in politics have simply surrendered, like homeowners who know there are rats in the basement and bats in the attic but long ago gave up trying to fix the issue.

All this time, the American people have felt themselves ever more oppressed, weighed upon, taxed and regulated, spied upon, brow beaten, and otherwise overwhelmed. Voting never made any difference because the politicians no longer controlled the system. The bureaucracies ruled all.

The Biden years underscored the point. We didn't even need a conscious and present executive. We only needed a figurehead to pretend to be president, just like the Soviet premiers in the old days. The institutions ran everything and the people controlled nothing.

How to deal with this? Trump alone figured it out in his last term: he simply took charge of the agencies in a limited way. There were screams of horror and plots galore. They performed a long stream of clever schemes to destroy him and show him who is boss, which is not the democratically elected president but the forces behind the scenes.

The job of the president, goes the message from all the insiders, is to PRETEND to be in charge but not actually do anything meaningful. Shut up, mug up, obey, and disturb nothing, let the administrative state do its thing without oversight or disruption, and then you will get your honorary library and bestselling autobiography and go down in history as great.

Trump refused the deal and look what happened.

Four years have gone by and Trump is back again, this time with a determination to slay this beast, one that he knows all-to-well. The efforts of DOGE and MAHA and MAGA are epic in scope, breaking a century of pathetic acquiescence toward the deep, middle, and shallow states, at last using moral courage to confront the problem head on, come what may.

They are profoundly aware that they MUST act fast and with some degree of ferocity, even recklessness, else we will default back to the status quo of leaders who pretend to be in charge while the embedded system runs things behind the scenes.

It has been this way for TOO LONG. The voters this time have demanded change, and mustered the faith to believe that change is possible. This is precisely what DOGE is attempting, to make good on a promise, a promise that for once the voters actually believed was credible.

They simply must succeed. There might never be another chance. The way of failure is the path everyone knows the US was on, toward economic stagnation, political scolerosis, and eventual irrelevance in the unfolding of the next stage of social evolution.

https://x.com/jeffreyatucker/status/1893787435659674034
:lmao

[Winehole23]

They're all doing the Officer Barbrady bit

Except for Snake Boy and Thread, who can barely contain their homicidal glee

[ChumpDumper]

TSA is the king of confirmation bias.

This is just a big part of Project 2025 with a ton of ketamime added.

[Blake]

I'm concerned that many people do not understand the historical and institutional context in which the DOGE labor reforms are unfolding. They look at this as if these are some random, chaotic, arbitrary, strange, and even cruel measures to impose on a devoted civil service.

The reality is very different, and I'm not even sure that Elon entirely understands this. For more than a century, even dating back to 1883, the civil service has grown and grown without check from the elected branch, either the presidency or the legislature . The bureaucracies have ballooned from a few to 450 or so. The bloat and absurdities have grown too.

Get this: no one has ever known what to do about it. Not Coolidge, not Hoover, not Nixon, not Reagan, not Clinton, no one. No president has been able to crack this nut. The only reforms ever to have made it through are those that make the administrative state bigger, never smaller.

Countless cabinet secretaries have come and gone, always with the intention of making a change but leaving saddened, demoralized, outwitted, outgunned, and ultimately devoured.

No president has seriously taken on this problem because they simply did not know how. The unions are powerful, the intimidation from the deep institutional knowledge is overwhelming, the fear of the media as been powerful, and every single president comes to power vaguely feeling threatened by the intelligence agencies. The industries that have captured every single agency were also far too powerful to unseat or control.

This combination of institutional inertia has blocked serious reform for a full century. No one has dared. No one has even had a theory or strategy about what to do about this problem. It had become so terrible that most people in politics have simply surrendered, like homeowners who know there are rats in the basement and bats in the attic but long ago gave up trying to fix the issue.

All this time, the American people have felt themselves ever more oppressed, weighed upon, taxed and regulated, spied upon, brow beaten, and otherwise overwhelmed. Voting never made any difference because the politicians no longer controlled the system. The bureaucracies ruled all.

The Biden years underscored the point. We didn't even need a conscious and present executive. We only needed a figurehead to pretend to be president, just like the Soviet premiers in the old days. The institutions ran everything and the people controlled nothing.

How to deal with this? Trump alone figured it out in his last term: he simply took charge of the agencies in a limited way. There were screams of horror and plots galore. They performed a long stream of clever schemes to destroy him and show him who is boss, which is not the democratically elected president but the forces behind the scenes.

The job of the president, goes the message from all the insiders, is to PRETEND to be in charge but not actually do anything meaningful. Shut up, mug up, obey, and disturb nothing, let the administrative state do its thing without oversight or disruption, and then you will get your honorary library and bestselling autobiography and go down in history as great.

Trump refused the deal and look what happened.

Four years have gone by and Trump is back again, this time with a determination to slay this beast, one that he knows all-to-well. The efforts of DOGE and MAHA and MAGA are epic in scope, breaking a century of pathetic acquiescence toward the deep, middle, and shallow states, at last using moral courage to confront the problem head on, come what may.

They are profoundly aware that they MUST act fast and with some degree of ferocity, even recklessness, else we will default back to the status quo of leaders who pretend to be in charge while the embedded system runs things behind the scenes.

It has been this way for TOO LONG. The voters this time have demanded change, and mustered the faith to believe that change is possible. This is precisely what DOGE is attempting, to make good on a promise, a promise that for once the voters actually believed was credible.

They simply must succeed. There might never be another chance. The way of failure is the path everyone knows the US was on, toward economic stagnation, political scolerosis, and eventual irrelevance in the unfolding of the next stage of social evolution.

https://x.com/jeffreyatucker/status/1893787435659674034

"The Civil service has grown and grown without check...." is just false hyperbole.

I'll go ahead and not read the rest of the wall. Just like tsa.

[Blake]

Lol Stewart getting so worked up he cut his hand

utl2uLh1wVI?si=dUJ_GDDtAY3KYcVm

[Winehole23]

You can't throw away the constitution and break the law just because breaking the civil service is a really high priority for you

Per capita, the size of the federal workforce has been fairly stable since 1960 -- it's the size of state government that's blown up, tbh

[Winehole23]

The size of the civil service is not some extreme emergency -- like terrorism, say -- that is allegedly so overwhelming that extra-legal remedies must be pursued.

"How bad your side want it" isn't everybody else's emergency until you make it one.

[Winehole23]

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:k2vqgq3czdvq65346u2ntazb/bafkreia65cx5hppr4znjnc5p4mckd7osptx2a4pngbhnc72v2 z7fpks4um@jpeg



Reporter: Who is the administrator of DOGE?

White House secretary: “I’m not going to reveal the name of that person from this podium…”

[Blake]

"Last week, DOGE proudly posted a "wall of receipts," showcasing its biggest cost-cutting victories. Immediately, organizations including the New York Times, Washington Post, Politico and others started fact-checking and found that the list was riddled with errors. Earlier today, The New York Times reported that DOGE has deleted all of the five biggest savings on that original list, quietly. The errors range from simple miscalculations to outright misrepresentations of government contracts. And yet, despite backtracking on its initial figures, DOGE now claims it has saved $65 billion (up from $55 billion a few days ago) —without any clear explanation of how it reached that number..."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/shaharziv/2025/02/25/doge-removes-biggest-spending-cuts-from-wall-of-receipts-heres-what-it-could-mean-for-doge-dividend-checks/

Gullible cheerleading idiots

[Blake]

In before "EVEN IF THE NUMBERS WAY OFF HE'S STILL CUTTING SPENDING WHAT'S WRONG YOU DON'T LIKE CUTTING SPENDING HE'S MUH HERO

[Winehole23]

ends justify the means

so much for the US constitution

[Winehole23]

(it can always be backfilled with boutique content, the current SCOTUS has already written the fanfic.)

[Winehole23]

DOGE quietly deletes (http://ttps://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/25/upshot/doge-spending-cuts-changed.html) the five largest spending cuts it had been celebrating last week.

[z0sa]

DOGE was a lie to intimidate federal workers into doing whatever Trump wants.

Conservatives love kings and dictatorships. Neo-monarchists, not even conservatives anymore. Y'all bent the knee without even a whisper. Pathetic.

[Winehole23]

DOGE is terrible at counting and doesn't support its findings

"For the second time in two weeks"


For the second time in two weeks, DOGE's "receipts" don't match its claims.

On Monday, the Department of Government Efficiency (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/what-is-doge-elon-musk-findings-trump/) released another round of so-called "receipts" — or canceled contracts to show its cost cutting — and posted them on its "wall of receipts." As was the case with the first round (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/doge-wall-of-receipts-shows-errors-tallying-billions-in-savings/), this set, too, contained inaccuracies.

Despite doubling the number of listed contracts, the updated itemized savings now total $9.6 billion, a sharp drop from the original $16.6 billion in savings DOGE itemized last week. At the same time, DOGE is now claiming total savings of $65 billion — far higher than the amount itemized, and an increase from its earlier claim of $55 billion, much of which has previously been called into question.

$65 billion is approximately 0.9% of the entire 2024 federal budget of $6.75 trillion.

DOGE's website claims this higher figure includes savings from contract and lease terminations, renegotiations, grant cancellations, layoffs and other miscellaneous reductions, but DOGE has not supplied documentation for the vast majority of the savings it claims.

In addition, $144.6 million is attributed to real estate savings, but DOGE has provided no supporting details beyond the dollar figure, agency and city, making independent verification difficult.

DOGE (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/this-is-who-the-white-house-says-is-in-charge-of-doge/) has not explained why it reduced the itemized total, but this is likely due to errors in the original reporting — many of which were first identified by news organizations including CBS News (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/doge-wall-of-receipts-shows-errors-tallying-billions-in-savings/).

Initially, DOGE listed 1,127 receipts. That number has now grown to 2,299, though 34% of them report zero savings. The newly added receipts also contain apparent errors and instances of double, triple and even quadruple counting.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/doge-wall-of-receipts-more-discrepancies/

[Winehole23]

Other listings also raise questions, including:




Three separate items list savings of $15 million each, but each item references the same contract, a blanket purchase agreement, under different contractors. A blanket purchase agreement is a standard government agreement that is often used for simple repetitive purchases. In this case, the Environmental Protection Agency contract was for "human resources consulting services." The Trump administration terminated the agreement on Jan. 25, referring to the contract as "Diversity, Equity, Inclusion, and Accessibility (DEIA) Enterprise Services Blanket Purchase Agreements (BPAs)." It is unclear how much of the contract's funding had already been spent.





Two line items list $9,999,999 in savings for a Consumer Finance Protection Bureau contract cancellation, although both of those are for the same contract.





In its first receipt release, DOGE listed another contract three times, claiming total savings of $1.965 billion. In reality, government records indicate that only $400 million had been spent over four years across 44 subcontracts, with minimal remaining expenditures expected. The latest DOGE update now lists one of these contracts as saving $0.35, another at zero savings, and a third at $18,171,886.





An earlier posting incorrectly claimed $8 billion in savings from a canceled contract, due to an apparent typo in the original document. The actual contract was worth $8 million. The contracting company, D&G Solutions, confirmed to CBS News that this was an accounting error and that $3.8 million had already been spent. Despite this, DOGE continues to list $8 million in savings for the contract's cancellation, when the actual figure is $4.2 million.





DOGE has also taken credit on X for the sale of a building in Washington, D.C., claiming it as savings. However, CBS News found (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/doge-claims-credit-for-selling-building-auctioned-under-biden-administration/) that the building was actually auctioned off during the Biden administration for approximately $4 million.

[TSA]

https://www.ernst.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/senator_ernst_letter_to_secretary_rubio.pdf

Sen. Joni Ernst’s staff uncovered the secret slush funds when, after months of enduring the agency’s excuses to justify its resistance to oversight, they were finally permitted access to “very limited data.” In October 2024, as Ernst has since detailed, the senator’s staff visited USAID headquarters in person for an “in-camera review” of Ukraine assistance data even though, her team discovered, the documents were not classified.

Even though they were heavily restricted during their investigation, Ernst’s team discovered a variety of U.S. taxpayer-funded grants funneled to Ukrainian businesses under the guise of both Competitive Economy Program (CEP) and Investment for Business Resilience funds.

Among the grants Ernst’s staff discovered were hundreds of thousands of dollars devoted to literal pet projects including approximately $300,000 to a “pet tracking app,” approximately $300,000 to a “dog collar manufacturer,” and approximately another $109,000 to a “pet food packaging producer,” according to a findings breakdown Ernst’s office sent to The Federalist.

Fashionistas also benefitted from the taxpayer-funded expenditures with a women’s clothing company, a fashion photographer, a “purveyor of contemporary knitwear,” a “luxury bridal brand,” a “marketplace for designer artisanal pieces,” and even a “trade mission for a fashion design house,” raking in approximately $733,000 combined.

Designers including a “custom carpet manufacturer,” which received approximately $2,000,000, and two different furniture lines, which received $114,000 and $91,000 respectively, also joined in the funding frenzy.

Even foodies received their fill of American cash. A “trade mission for a condiment manufacturer” cost taxpayers approximately $94,000, a “pickle maker” received around $148,0000, an organic coffee and tea producer was handed approximately $255,000, a vineyard pulled $89,000, and an “artisanal fruit tea company” collected $104,000.

USAID also awarded a “specialty biscuit and confectionery company” around $678,000 — nearly the same number of taxpayer dollars as the aforementioned food grants combined — and a meatpacking plant approximately $319,000.

USAID “failed to provide any of these documents” to Ernst’s staff beyond the “in-camera review.” USAID also often claims national security exemptions to avoid disclosing controversial charges on its public “foreign assistance” tracker.

https://thefederalist.com/2025/02/26/exclusive-usaid-blew-hundreds-of-thousands-in-taxpayer-slush-funds-on-ukrainian-pickle-maker-pet-accessories/

[Blake]

Lol there's that selective outrage

[ChumpDumper]

https://www.ernst.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/senator_ernst_letter_to_secretary_rubio.pdf

Sen. Joni Ernst’s staff uncovered the secret slush funds when, after months of enduring the agency’s excuses to justify its resistance to oversight, they were finally permitted access to “very limited data.” In October 2024, as Ernst has since detailed, the senator’s staff visited USAID headquarters in person for an “in-camera review” of Ukraine assistance data even though, her team discovered, the documents were not classified.

Even though they were heavily restricted during their investigation, Ernst’s team discovered a variety of U.S. taxpayer-funded grants funneled to Ukrainian businesses under the guise of both Competitive Economy Program (CEP) and Investment for Business Resilience funds.

Among the grants Ernst’s staff discovered were hundreds of thousands of dollars devoted to literal pet projects including approximately $300,000 to a “pet tracking app,” approximately $300,000 to a “dog collar manufacturer,” and approximately another $109,000 to a “pet food packaging producer,” according to a findings breakdown Ernst’s office sent to The Federalist.

Fashionistas also benefitted from the taxpayer-funded expenditures with a women’s clothing company, a fashion photographer, a “purveyor of contemporary knitwear,” a “luxury bridal brand,” a “marketplace for designer artisanal pieces,” and even a “trade mission for a fashion design house,” raking in approximately $733,000 combined.

Designers including a “custom carpet manufacturer,” which received approximately $2,000,000, and two different furniture lines, which received $114,000 and $91,000 respectively, also joined in the funding frenzy.

Even foodies received their fill of American cash. A “trade mission for a condiment manufacturer” cost taxpayers approximately $94,000, a “pickle maker” received around $148,0000, an organic coffee and tea producer was handed approximately $255,000, a vineyard pulled $89,000, and an “artisanal fruit tea company” collected $104,000.

USAID also awarded a “specialty biscuit and confectionery company” around $678,000 — nearly the same number of taxpayer dollars as the aforementioned food grants combined — and a meatpacking plant approximately $319,000.

USAID “failed to provide any of these documents” to Ernst’s staff beyond the “in-camera review.” USAID also often claims national security exemptions to avoid disclosing controversial charges on its public “foreign assistance” tracker.

https://thefederalist.com/2025/02/26/exclusive-usaid-blew-hundreds-of-thousands-in-taxpayer-slush-funds-on-ukrainian-pickle-maker-pet-accessories/

You do know all these kinds of things happened under Trump too, don't you?

[Winehole23]

You do know all these kinds of things happened under Trump too, don't you?they're not familiar with the expansive, longitudinal public record

just El0n's shitposting

[DarrinS]

they're not familiar with the expansive, longitudinal public record

just El0n's shitposting

There's no way you have a full-time job.

If you are a disability fraud, hope you get caught.

[hater]

:lmao

People thinking South African tit shirt will save billions :lmao

Stupid lemmings :lol

https://x.com/kylegriffin1/status/1894857721104437552

[Winehole23]

There's no way you have a full-time job.

If you are a disability fraud, hope you get caught.Not gonna post the deets here, but I don't care what you believe

Lol siccing the cops on me, a lowly subforum dweller

[Winehole23]

brutal SSA cuts

gonna hurt

[Winehole23]

The acting commissioner of the Social Security Administration (SSA) requested in a meeting on Tuesday that managers present him with a plan for a 50 percent reduction in staff, a mass firing that could affect tens of thousands of employees across the country.

https://prospect.org/health/social-security-administration-could-cut-half-its-workforce/

[Winehole23]

“I can say that AFGE is steadfastly opposed to any reduction in force to any employees,” Couture said, noting that the agency is at a 50-year staffing low (https://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/statcomps/supplement/2024/2f1-2f3.html#table2.f3) and mired in a “customer service crisis.”

[Winehole23]

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:63umjc3jjqrv77hc4eehbvw7/bafkreigp2kz3pgporhwpbnafxgfj46uovpaebimkoa7qtfuck 4kyi56yki@jpeg

[Winehole23]

blast from the past

https://bsky.app/profile/ndrew.bsky.social/post/3lj4wjvsh2c2b



https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:63umjc3jjqrv77hc4eehbvw7/bafkreiaj6zy2las3ufqrqpruc2ervc75hw7iu4dtgvwgjihd3 ermlb7vke@jpeg

[DarrinS]

Bluesky content farming.. No thanks

[Winehole23]

are you allergic to reading?

[DarrinS]

are you allergic to reading?

You are lazy

[Winehole23]

judging from my participation here?

what have you done for us lately...

:lol

[ChumpDumper]

You are lazy
He did the posting.

Why can't you just read it?

[Winehole23]

El0n tweets hundreds of times a day while running two companies and reforming the whole of US government -- and being a father to 13 children.

By contrast, my participation here doesn't seem excessive.

[ChumpDumper]

El0n tweets hundreds of times a day while running two companies and reforming the whole of US government -- and being a father to 13 children.

By contrast, my participation here doesn't seem excessive.

You clearly aren't taking enough ketamine.

[Blake]

"....The chair of a quiet government agency secured the re-employment of nearly 6,000 fired federal workers for the next month and a half on Wednesday, just a day after her own firing was ruled illegal by a federal judge.

Cathy Harris struck what is likely the biggest blow so far to DOGE’s firing campaign on Wednesday, ruling that 5,600 probationary employees at the Department of Agriculture (USDA) were terminated in a move that may have violated federal procedures. Her ruling halts the firings for 45 days, while the Merit Systems Protection Board, which she chairs, reviews the firings...."

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/usda-merit-board-appeal-ruling-trump-b2709793.html

Fucking morons

[Winehole23]

"....The chair of a quiet government agency secured the re-employment of nearly 6,000 fired federal workers for the next month and a half on Wednesday, just a day after her own firing was ruled illegal by a federal judge.

Cathy Harris struck what is likely the biggest blow so far to DOGE’s firing campaign on Wednesday, ruling that 5,600 probationary employees at the Department of Agriculture (USDA) were terminated in a move that may have violated federal procedures. Her ruling halts the firings for 45 days, while the Merit Systems Protection Board, which she chairs, reviews the firings...."

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/usda-merit-board-appeal-ruling-trump-b2709793.html

Fucking moronsthey're probably going to fire her again, this time minding their legal p and qs a bit more carefully

[Blake]

they're probably going to fire her again, this time minding their legal p and qs a bit more carefully

Probably so. Same with the workers

[Thread]

they're probably going to fire her again, this time minding their legal p and qs a bit more carefully

Hope, hope.

[TSA]

https://x.com/ForecasterEnten/status/1897667876007370945

[ChumpDumper]

Who runs DOGE, TSA?

[Thread]

https://x.com/ForecasterEnten/status/1897667876007370945

It is a shocker. They'll walk it back before the Sunday talk shows.

[Thread]

Who runs DOGE, TSA?

Musk. ...

"What makes a muskrat guard his Musk?

"Courage."

"You can say that again."

[Blake]

Who runs DOGE, TSA?

:lol

[Thread]

:lol

"I'm President, and their not."

[Blake]

https://x.com/ForecasterEnten/status/1897667876007370945

Rofl CBS polls good now

[Thread]

Rofl CBS polls good now


It is a shocker. They'll walk it back before the Sunday talk shows.

[GAustex]

Who runs DOGE, TSA?

You don’t and that is what matters

You lose

Then

America wins

[Blake]

You don’t and that is what matters

You lose

Then

America wins

Where do you get your news every day? Cmon don't be afraid to share like the rest of the trumpers here.

[ChumpDumper]

You don’t and that is what matters

You lose

Then

America wins
:lol you get stupider with every post

[ChumpDumper]

https://x.com/ForecasterEnten/status/1897667876007370945

I, too, have a poll.

1897296253568082270

https://x.com/JoshKraushaar/status/1897296253568082270

[Thread]

You don’t and that is what matters

You lose

Then

America wins

Absolutely.

[Winehole23]

“I am not saying it’s CIA or not,” a former intelligence analyst who worked at Langley for more than a decade tells WIRED. “But it’s reckless that this information is out there at all. It speaks to the fact that these guys have no interest in even understanding government operations.”https://www.wired.com/story/gsa-sale-cia-facility/

[TSA]

https://x.com/mallen20243/status/1897325515348041816

:lol Ipsos
:lol Ipsos Harris +2

[Winehole23]

DOGE played an ineffectual part in Trump's efforts to release (thereby eventually wasting) billions of gallons of water in NoCal during the LA fires


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https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:szc7xq5qv7wg2abye6tlvet2/bafkreidk6ggwgqa6uulb4kcybndwsdyggikwfa2tc44c3ombm o7omhj3ai@jpeghttps://www.cnn.com/2025/03/07/climate/trump-doge-california-water/index.html

[Blake]

https://x.com/mallen20243/status/1897325515348041816

:lol Ipsos
:lol Ipsos Harris +2

:lol muh poll better than ur poll

[Blake]

".....Kristin Jenn got a similar response from members of her family after she learned the National Park Service ranger job she was due to start had been put on hold by the billionaire Elon Musk's Department of Government Efficiency hiring freeze. She thinks it’s likely the job will be eliminated altogether.

As she has expressed her disappointment over potentially losing her dream job, some members of her mostly conservative family have unfriended her on social media. Others are giving her the silent treatment. Nearly all favor such cuts even if she’s a victim of them....."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/thrust-unemployment-axed-federal-workers-130433180.html

Park rangers are the devil now? Seriously?

The brainwashing propaganda that Americans are falling into here in the year 2025 is frankly stunning to me. Beyond any idiocracy I could have ever imagined.

Thanks Fox News.

[TSA]

:lol muh poll better than ur poll

RCP is an aggregate of polls you dumb fuck. Once again proving you are the least knowledgeable poster on this site when it comes to polling. :lol

[Blake]

RCP is an aggregate of polls you dumb fuck. Once again proving you are the least knowledgeable poster on this site when it comes to polling. :lol

:lol you propped a CBSNews poll

[Winehole23]

White House leaks



Just moments before the blowup with Mr. Rubio, Mr. Musk and the transportation secretary, Sean Duffy, went back and forth about the state of the Federal Aviation Administration’s equipment for tracking airplanes and what kind of fix is needed. Howard Lutnick, the commerce secretary, jumped in to support Mr. Musk.


Mr. Duffy said the young staff of DOGE was trying to lay off air traffic controllers. What am I supposed to do? Mr. Duffy said. I have multiple plane crashes to deal with now, and your people want me to fire air traffic controllers?



Marco Rubio was incensed. Here he was in the Cabinet Room of the White House, the secretary of state, seated beside the president and listening to a litany of attacks from the richest man in the world.

Seated diagonally opposite, across the elliptical mahogany table, Elon Musk was letting Mr. Rubio have it, accusing him of failing to slash his staff.


You have fired “nobody,” Mr. Musk told Mr. Rubio, then scornfully added that perhaps the only person he had fired was a staff member from his Department of Government Efficiency.
ttps://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/07/us/politics/trump-musk-doge-power.html

[velik_m]

DOGE Is Putting Major Government Efficiency Projects at Risk
In its apparent quest to cut government spending and improve efficiency, DOGE has fired entire tech teams devoted to those very things.

Since Elon Musk’s so-called Department of Government Efficiency took over important government technology teams within the General Services Administration (GSA) and what was formally known as the United States Digital Service (USDS), around 200 technologists have either resigned or been fired, jeopardizing about a decade’s worth of work dedicated to everything from public health to passport applications.
...


https://www.wired.com/story/doge-major-government-tech-projects-efficiency/

[Winehole23]

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:h6xbkw7bucg6ws3vqwnxqewp/bafkreidyu3a5ls2pkcm75gvfbvflmjlpi3t5zvhe7hvxvk4x4 lkhpw4y7y@jpegfrom the NYT article linked above

[Thread]

from the NYT article linked above

Already Trump is beginning to get a bit of cold feet, and self-doubting.

Reminds one of Thornton there "Tombstone" ..."Christ, it's like playin' cards with my sister's kids!"

What, he didn't think, or, know that they'd come after him with every thing they got? He didn't figure that out after the first 4 years?

He didn't steel himself?

Hope & pray he's playin' possum.

ADDENDUM: & he's going to have to watch Rubio 24/7. He is not vested, whatsoever. He wanted that SS job, that name plate and that's all. He's going to call Trump everything but a White man when he leaves the Presidency.

"I had no idea what he was up to. I thought I could work from the inside and do what was right and honorable and hold him back. I apologize to the American people and promise to return to my roots."

[Blake]

"...Federal spending cuts under President Donald Trump and Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency have hit federal contractors, and a San Antonio-headquartered company, again. This time, more than 650 employees with a company that hires caregivers for military medical facilities are losing their jobs....."

https://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/federal-staff-cuts-texas-20206779.php

We knew all along you guys/ Trump don't give a shit about military/veterans. Sad this is the way they are finding out

[Blake]

"
For Kelly Shaw, unemployment is unfamiliar territory. "I've never been in this situation before. I've never been fired," Shaw said, suddenly quiet, while seated at her kitchen table in Northern Virginia.

Nearly three years ago, the longtime senior intelligence analyst left the Navy, after being recruited by the nation's top cyber defense agency and rising up through the ranks. Eventually, Shaw helped establish a congressionally mandated program designed to continuously monitor and detect cyber breaches of the nation's power grid, pipelines and water system – installing sensors across critical infrastructure designed to detect insider threats and foreign adversaries like China, Russia and Iran....

....Shaw was among the first recruits to the "CTMS" program, entering with 12 years of government service, two master degrees in electrical engineering and cybersecurity, plus at least nine different specialized cyber certifications. ....

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cybersecurity-agencys-top-recruits-doge-cuts/




You doge fans really okay with this type of cutting? Feel free to chime in

[Winehole23]

((((Bauman))) and (((Sandler))) are no longer alive...



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[Blake]

((((Bauman))) and (((Sandler))) are no longer alive...

Lol "an investigation". He'll never be open and transparent with that.

[Winehole23]

*El0n unfollows Sean Duffy on X"

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[Blake]

CHICAGO (AP) — The country’s preeminent federal fire training academy canceled classes, effective immediately, on Saturday amid the ongoing flurry of funding freezes and staffing cuts by President Donald Trump’s administration...."

https://apnews.com/article/national-fire-academy-fema-trump-cuts-doge-9cec46a638d66f19c5b8fe695e721bd6

Meh they can just Google how to fight fires

[Thread]

CHICAGO (AP) — The country’s preeminent federal fire training academy canceled classes, effective immediately, on Saturday amid the ongoing flurry of funding freezes and staffing cuts by President Donald Trump’s administration...."

https://apnews.com/article/national-fire-academy-fema-trump-cuts-doge-9cec46a638d66f19c5b8fe695e721bd6

Meh they can just Google how to fight fires

Bingo.

[velik_m]

Why layoffs don’t work

...
Some of these issues stem from the fact that a company that does layoffs is typically in distressed shape already. But experts have found several other reasons for why layoffs lead to negative results:


Mass layoffs are often symptoms of unsound business strategies and don’t do anything to cure the larger problem.
Absent significant strategy changes, productivity declines with fewer employees.
Companies routinely replace laid off employees (who often receive severance) with expensive consultants or hire contractors for similar wages, reducing the cost savings.
Companies must invest to train current workers to pick up new tasks — and invest to recruit replacement employees after the economy improves or the company’s financial troubles clear up.


As they recruit, these companies often find their reputation has been damaged among potential applicants, says Wayne Cascio, a professor emeritus at the University of Colorado Denver who’s researched layoffs for decades. “If they have two offers and one is with a company that just had layoffs last year and another one is with a company that hasn’t had layoffs, which one are you going to pick?”

Plus, the employees who survive layoffs grow discontent with the company and burn out faster as they handle more tasks, Cascio adds, leading to expensive voluntary worker exits.

...


https://thehustle.co/originals/why-layoffs-dont-work

[Winehole23]

DOGE isn't reform or rational downsizing, it's vandalism

the point is to wreck the capacity of the USG and amplify graft, to turn it into a giant patronage machine run by the president, who financially controls everything and reduces the US Congress to an advisory capacity

[Winehole23]

the Polish Foreign Minister


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[Blake]

the Polish Foreign Minister


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God dam what a dick. His day is coming at this rate.

[Blake]

Of course, he's a dork gamer that just bought the United States so the trash talking tracks

[Thread]

God dam what a dick. His day is coming at this rate.

Of course, he's a dork gamer that just bought the United States so the trash talking tracks

I recall you called him/Musk everything but a White man when you heartily believed he wouldn't dispense the Starlink system vs. Russia. Oh, it was just a calamity. Then when he did dispense it, we could hear a pin drop every single day that ends in (y) since.

"Who's the wild man now!"

[Blake]

"....If Dan Wenk had been fired during his first year in a permanent job with the National Park Service, the agency would’ve lost his many later accomplishments.

He would not have gone on to help lead a public-private partnership that raised $75 million to redevelop visitor facilities at Mount Rushmore National Memorial, or a $300 million negotiation to improve amenities at Yellowstone National Park with private funds, or the acquisition of the United Flight 93 crash site in Pennsylvania for a national memorial...."

https://northdakotamonitor.com/2025/03/11/former-yellowstone-rushmore-badlands-superintendents-say-doge-wiped-out-a-generation-of-leaders/

Stupid fucking morons

[Thread]

"....If Dan Wenk had been fired during his first year in a permanent job with the National Park Service, the agency would’ve lost his many later accomplishments.

He would not have gone on to help lead a public-private partnership that raised $75 million to redevelop visitor facilities at Mount Rushmore National Memorial, or a $300 million negotiation to improve amenities at Yellowstone National Park with private funds, or the acquisition of the United Flight 93 crash site in Pennsylvania for a national memorial...."

https://northdakotamonitor.com/2025/03/11/former-yellowstone-rushmore-badlands-superintendents-say-doge-wiped-out-a-generation-of-leaders/

Stupid fucking morons

Let's see what the old man does with the windfall (a public accounting) before throwing the baby out with the bath water.

[Blake]

".....SpaceX on Wednesday scrubbed the expected launch of a replacement crew of four astronauts to the International Space Station that would have set in motion the long-awaited homecoming of U.S. astronauts Butch Wilmore and Suni Williams, who have been stuck in space for nine months after a trip on Boeing's faulty Starliner.

SpaceX called off the flight over a last-minute technical issue with the rocket's launchpad, officials said on a livestream of the launch countdown...."

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/12/spacex-scrubs-astronaut-flight-that-was-to-retrieve-stuck-astronauts.html


What a waste of my tax dollar.

[Thread]

".....SpaceX on Wednesday scrubbed the expected launch of a replacement crew of four astronauts to the International Space Station that would have set in motion the long-awaited homecoming of U.S. astronauts Butch Wilmore and Suni Williams, who have been stuck in space for nine months after a trip on Boeing's faulty Starliner.

SpaceX called off the flight over a last-minute technical issue with the rocket's launchpad, officials said on a livestream of the launch countdown...."

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/12/spacex-scrubs-astronaut-flight-that-was-to-retrieve-stuck-astronauts.html


What a waste of my tax dollar.

...Amen.

[ChumpDumper]

".....SpaceX on Wednesday scrubbed the expected launch of a replacement crew of four astronauts to the International Space Station that would have set in motion the long-awaited homecoming of U.S. astronauts Butch Wilmore and Suni Williams, who have been stuck in space for nine months after a trip on Boeing's faulty Starliner.

SpaceX called off the flight over a last-minute technical issue with the rocket's launchpad, officials said on a livestream of the launch countdown...."

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/12/spacex-scrubs-astronaut-flight-that-was-to-retrieve-stuck-astronauts.html


What a waste of my tax dollar.

OH NO THOSE TWO ASTRONAUTS ARE MORE STRANDED IN SPACE AND NOW ELON ALONE IS TO BLAME!

The technical issue is his rockets keep exploding.

[Thread]

OH NO THOSE TWO ASTRONAUTS ARE MORE STRANDED IN SPACE AND NOW ELON ALONE IS TO BLAME!

The technical issue is his rockets keep exploding.


Though I do I recall you called him/Musk everything but a White man when you heartily believed he wouldn't dispense the Starlink system vs. Russia. Oh, it was just a calamity. Then when he did dispense it, we could hear a pin drop every single day that ends in (y) since.

"Who's the wild man now!"