The Elite Eight/Final Four/Championship Thread - Upstairs Edition

[benefactor]

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Well gents, the grain has been separated from the chaff. Lots of great matchups and storylines. All four one seeds and three of the four two seeds are represented.

Cooper Flagg and a talent draped Blue Devils team versus a Bama team that has the ability to flat shoot the the fucking lights out. Mark Sears and Bama torched BYU in the sweet 16 sinking a tournament record 25 threes. If they light it up again, they could all that Duke talent to the NBA early.

Houston and Tennessee should be a low scoring slugfest as both teams are near the bottom at pace and two of the best defensive teams in the country. The great equalizer here is shooting. Houston is the best three point shooting team in the country at 40%.

Florida on paper should overpower Texas Tech, but TT is scrappy and are coming off of a big comeback win over Arkansas. There's also the question of how bad Condons ankle injury is. If he's limited this game could be a lot closer.

And last but certainly not least is number one overall seed Auburn against Tom Izzo and Sparty. Izzo is the last of his kind...a gritty, old school coach who wins with not only talent but sheer will and toughness. He'll need every ounce of it to take down Johni Broome and Auburn.

Tournament fun fact: Since the tournament expanded to 64 teams in 1985, all four number one seeds have only made the Final Four once. That was 2008...Kansas, UCLA, Memphis and North Carolina.

[Robz4000]

I got Mich St, Florida, Duke, and Houston tbh.

[John B]

It’s possibly all number 1’s are going to the Final Four.

[benefactor]

It’s possibly all number 1’s are going to the Final Four.
There's a good chance we see it happening more often. In the new era of NIL and transfers you will see a lot more of the power conference teams plucking the talent away from lower level teams. It will mean less Cinderellas in the tournament. We are already seeing the effects with the number of SEC teams that made the tournament.

[mo7888]

I wouldn't be surprised with an All-SEC final 4.

[Dex]

I'm 96.4% on my bracket right now...have Duke winning it all

[ace3g]

Darrion Williams is impressive.

[Splits]

would be great to see TT hang on to this. Fuck the eSS-eEE-sEE

[Splits]

jfc 3 straight 3s , two by some fucktard named Haugh and TT missing the front end of 1&1s twice in between lmao tie game

[benefactor]

Blake BUMP get in here

[Splits]

what a choke job by Tech, idiots

[Mr. Body]

Worse team won

[benefactor]

Worse team won
Yep. TT pissed that game away

[benefactor]

I've tried to give Alabama the benefit of the doubt somewhat in this matchup, but I think Duke wins comfortably.

[benefactor]

Kon playing well on both ends early

[ginobilized]

Kon is impressive with his IQ and touch. He's kind of like a SF Jokic with the soft hands.

[benefactor]

Flagg sunk a three early but has not looked great outside of that

[benefactor]

Kon with the nice lob

[benefactor]

Kon with the tie up.

Well I've seen enough. Draft him.

[ginobilized]

Kon really makes Duke better.

Maluach is a 7' 2" Biyombo. I could see a use for him on the Spurs.

[benefactor]

Kon really makes Duke better.

Maluach is a 7' 2" Biyombo. I could see a use for him on the Spurs.
He's almost the perfect glue guy. He does all the things you want done well very well.

[Mr. Body]

Knipp may be the best player on the floor right now

[benefactor]

Duke is just overwhelming Bama

[baseline bum]

Blake BUMP get in here

Flagg's Bernoullin niggas tonight

[benefactor]

Knipp may be the best player on the floor right now
He's playing himself out of our reach:lol

[baseline bum]

Kon with the tie up.

Well I've seen enough. Draft him.

Unless his measurements are shit at the combine hard to see him still on the board at 8 or 9.

[ginobilized]

Unless his measurements are shit at the combine hard to see him still on the board at 8 or 9.

I don't see the currently projected 5-7 teams picking Kon. The Raptors, Nets and 76ers don't really need a connector or, should I say Konnector?

[benefactor]

Flagg showing why he is who he is

[mystargtr34]

I don’t think the Raptors will draft Kon. I think they will go with a C or PG which leaves Maluach, Queen, Jaku. I think they take Maluach and develop him behind Poeltl.

The Nets need everything so they will go best player available which is probably Kon, but could see them taking anyone of Kon, Tre, Queen, Jaku.

The Sixers I can see taking Kon also, but could also see them taking Tre, Queen or Maluach given Embiids health issues.

If the Spurs stay at 8 I think there’s only about a 50% chance Kon is still there.

[baseline bum]

I don't see the currently projected 5-7 teams picking Kon. The Raptors, Nets and 76ers don't really need a connector or, should I say Konnector?

Bet OKC would love him if that Philly pick falls and seems like Jakucionis likely draft position is hard to pin down, giving another strike against Kon being there at #8. Maybe if Knueppel is gone it means Tre Johnson is still on the board though. And if not Maluach is probably still there and maybe the Spurs can trade down and pick up an extra first for their troubles.

[baseline bum]

The Sixers I can see taking Kon also, but could also see them taking Tre, Queen or Maluach given Embiids health issues.


Don't discount OKC since they get Philly's pick if it's #7 or lower.

[benefactor]

Duke showing everyone why Sears is going to struggle at the next level. He's just not big enough. Someone still might take a flier on him in the second round as a gunner off the bench.

[mystargtr34]

Don't discount OKC since they get Philly's pick if it's #7 or lower.

Yep I’m counting on Sixers falling to 5th in the draft order which increases the odds of them keeping the pick. Nets won today so Sixers are in pole position.

But yeah if OKC gets the 7th pick I think there is a very good chance they take Kon.

[baseline bum]

I just can't see Kon lasting to #8. Would be thrilled to get him if the Spurs don't get in the top 4 though.

[LeBowen]

I just can't see Kon lasting to #8. Would be thrilled to get him if the Spurs don't get in the top 4 though.

Imo, it depends on who gets the #5-7 picks.
As I said the other day, we don't want Hornets, Sixers or Blazers in that range.
I think the Nets will swing for someone with higher upside, they just started their rebuild.
Pelicans, Raptors and Heat need a point guard.

[rascal]

The only guards I want are Harper or Edgecombe if in the top 4. I don't want Kon with the Spurs better pick. Rather have Fleming over Kon.

This forum always has their favorites. Last year it was Sheppard and Dillingham.

[baseline bum]

The only guards I want are Harper or Edgecombe if in the top 4. I don't want Kon with the Spurs better pick. Rather have Fleming over Kon.

This forum always has their favorites. Last year it was Sheppard and Dillingham.

Can probably get Fleming with the later first.

[benefactor]

Duke closing them out on the defensive end

[benefactor]

Rather have Fleming over Kon.
:lol

[benefactor]

Absolute clinic by Duke. They look like champions right now

[ginobilized]

Man, this Duke team is so well-built.

Flagg, Maluach and Kon will all go top 10 easy. Probably top7-8.
Someone might go for Queen or another wildcard and give us a chance at Kon. The nightmare would be OKC getting him.

[rascal]

Don't discount OKC since they get Philly's pick if it's #7 or lower.

Philly won't be losing that pick to OKC. They are in great position now to keep it.

[benefactor]

Why are they fouling?:lol

[Mr. Body]

The only guards I want are Harper or Edgecombe if in the top 4. I don't want Kon with the Spurs better pick. Rather have Fleming over Kon.

This forum always has their favorites. Last year it was Sheppard and Dillingham.

This year is Fleming. I doubt more than two people here have seen him play.

[rascal]

This year is Fleming. I doubt more than two people here have seen him play.

No it isn't. It is Kon as the favorite with the Spurs pick in here.

[Robz4000]

99.7% on my bracket so far.

[Mr. Body]

No it isn't. It is Kon as the favorite with the Spurs pick in here.

Have you been in a coma, lol

[rascal]

Have you been in a coma, lol

So who is the favorite for the Spurs higher pick?

[Mark Celibate]

Blake (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=3460) BUMP (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=6341) get in here

tbh I don't know f*ck all about college basketball these days but I did say that it would come down to which tall African guy or Mulatto stepped up in crunchtime and that would be the difference. The Mulatto for Florida hit a bunch of threes while the Mulatto and tall African guy with dreads for tech missed some key free throws so my prediction came true IMO

[benefactor]

Houston's defense:wow

[Mal]

Why Espn is pushing womens NCAA down everybody`s throats ?

[Mr. Body]

Why Espn is pushing womens NCAA down everybody`s throats ?

ESPN: "Maybe watch the women's NCAA"

Mal: *sobbing like a little bitch*

[Mal]

ESPN: "Maybe watch the women's NCAA"

Mal: *sobbing like a little bitch*

There is mens final four game happening at the same time

[Mr. Body]

There is mens final four game happening at the same time

Do you piss your pants at the car commercials during the breaks?

[Dex]

Why Espn is pushing womens NCAA down everybody`s throats ?

It's almost like women know how to play basketball too.

Next thing you know, they will be driving cars and voting and taking your job.

[djohn2oo8]

Winner of UH/Duke wins it all

[BatManu20]

Winner of UH/Duke wins it all

Duke. Nobody's beating that team tbh.

[Robz4000]

Winner of UH/Duke wins it all


Duke. Nobody's beating that team tbh.

I got Florida tbh.

[djohn2oo8]

Duke. Nobody's beating that team tbh.
UH’s defense gives them a chance.

[Gibbz]

My bracket is a mess but I did have Duke winning it all. Bold, I know.

Had Auburn, St. John's (rip), Duke, and Gonzaga as a Cinderella pick. Duke over St. John's.

[BatManu20]

UH’s defense gives them a chance.

I agree they're the only team that has a chance of upsetting them, but I just don't see it with Duke's size, defense, and shooting ability from 1-4. I'll be pulling for Houston though.

[BatManu20]

I got Florida tbh.

Contain Clayton and you can beat Florida tbh. Very good team with size, but they were lucky to beat Tech last night. I do think they have a favorable chance of making the Title game though abasing Auburn or Michigan St.

[Robz4000]

Contain Clayton and you can beat Florida tbh. Very good team with size, but they were lucky to beat Tech last night. I do think they have a favorable chance of making the Title game though abasing Auburn or Michigan St.

They also beat the champs tbh, and they're more battle tested. That being said, I made my bracket when it still wasn't clear Flagg was gonna be good to go.

[heyheymymy]

Why Espn is pushing womens NCAA down everybody`s throats ?

I've been enjoying it. Paige Bueckers set an NCAA record yesterday. UCLA was competitive today. Some good stuff cmon

[Robz4000]

Welp, hopefully the Spurs take Broome with the ATL pick tbh.

[Gibbz]

Welp, hopefully the Spurs take Broome with the ATL pick tbh.

Givony's mock from a few days ago had Broome going #41.

[Robz4000]

Givony's mock from a few days ago had Broome going #41.

:lol swear I saw him 20. That being said, haven't paid much attention to mock drafts yet even with how ass the Spurs are.

[John B]

And there you go, all #1 seeds advancing to the Final Four.

[Robz4000]

And there you go, all #1 seeds advancing to the Final Four.

One of the downsides to NIL tbh. Might be done with Cinderellas in March Madness.

[exstatic]

One of the downsides to NIL tbh. Might be done with Cinderellas in March Madness.

Yeah,I read that somewhere, too. Makes the tournament much less interesting.

[SpursBills]

Regardless of what happens, would have been a fun hypothetical matchup to see this years Duke team go up against last year’s UConn team, one of the few teams that can match their size

[Mr. Body]

One of the downsides to NIL tbh. Might be done with Cinderellas in March Madness.

I feel like this is an overreaction. Just last year NC State made it to the Final Four as an 11 seed.

Two years ago a 4, two 5s, and a 9 were in the Final Four.

Those were both in the NIL era. This year just kind of sucked for college basketball in general and so the top teams went through.

[Mr. Body]

Regardless of what happens, would have been a fun hypothetical matchup to see this years Duke team go up against last year’s UConn team, one of the few teams that can match their size

IMO the UConn team would wreck Duke. Duke is good, with the three freshmen meshing very well, but those Huskies were destroyers.

[heyheymymy]

yeah we just had Florida Atlantic and San Diego State go deep plus NC State but I agree we don't want that to change any

[mo7888]

Why Espn is pushing womens NCAA down everybody`s throats ?

It's the Kaitlin Clark effect. She draws higher ratings than most NBA games and everyone is trying to Piggy back off of that appeal to elevate tne women's leagues. It's a smart business decision.

[heyheymymy]

I think San Antonio just gets really quality Final Fours lol

Last visit in 2008 was all #1s too and the first time ever. Strange recurrence this year is back, hosted in SA again and got all four #1s

For the first time (and the only time until the 2025 tournament) since seeding began in 1979, all four of the top seeds advanced to the 2008 Final Four.

[Ice009]

Where are the final 4s played? Are they usually played in different places each year?

[exstatic]

Where are the final 4s played? Are they usually played in different places each year?

Yes. They pick the sites a few years beforehand, and this year, it’s San Antonio. They tried to cut us out a few years back, but all of the fans love coming here this time of year, and they pitched a fit, so we’re back in the rotation.

[ChumpDumper]

Yes. They pick the sites a few years beforehand, and this year, it’s San Antonio. They tried to cut us out a few years back, but all of the fans love coming here this time of year, and they pitched a fit, so we’re back in the rotation.

Apparently the suits don't like exterior shots of the goofy looking Alamodome.

[scott]

Looking forward to seeing how many times a local SA reporter can ask Cooper Flagg some variation of if he's thought about being drafted by the Spurs/what it would be like to be paired with Wemby/etc

[exstatic]

Apparently the suits don't like exterior shots of the goofy looking Alamodome.

That, and it’s an old and dated facility, no matter how many times it’s been refreshed. Just another good reason to vote for the new bball arena downtown. It would secure a spot in the FF rotation for a couple of decades.

[scott]

That, and it’s an old and dated facility, no matter how many times it’s been refreshed. Just another good reason to vote for the new bball arena downtown. It would secure a spot in the FF rotation for a couple of decades.

Is the FF played in the old Spurs Alamodome configuration with the curtain, or is the full stadium like they did for that Warriors game?

Do they host other FF's in basketball-specific arenas?

These are things I've just never really paid attention to before.

[spurs1990]

Coogs vs future Spur Flagg. Must watch semi that should’ve been the title game if the committee would’ve given Duke their one overall seed like they should’ve.

[Splits]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cjGRqUuIQs

[widowmaker]

Other than the spurs trading up for flagg what are the real chances?

[exstatic]

Other than the spurs trading up for flagg what are the real chances?

No one is trading Flagg, but if we stay at 8, pre-lottery, our chances at #1 are 6%. OTOH, our chances at Wemby were only14%, and we hit that.

[mo7888]

Other than the spurs trading up for flagg what are the real chances?

There's a better chance of winning the lottery than trading for Flagg.

[widowmaker]

Ok good stuff thank you both.

[thOOdee]

One of the downsides to NIL tbh. Might be done with Cinderellas in March Madness.


I understand the potential for better schools to poach some players, but I’m not seeing how this doesnt also help mid tier schools attract players who are looking to bemore of a center piece who would have otherwise been just a role player at a top tier school. Am i missing something?

[ace3g]

https://x.com/DukeMBB/status/1907535329562701908

[exstatic]

https://x.com/DukeMBB/status/1907535329562701908

Give Coop a look at his future home.

[ambchang]

I understand the potential for better schools to poach some players, but I’m not seeing how this doesnt also help mid tier schools attract players who are looking to bemore of a center piece who would have otherwise been just a role player at a top tier school. Am i missing something?

Well, they’d be role players in a major school for a reason. The mid tiers may catch a late boomer once in a while but it just means the odds are stacked against them. Not to mention your need multiple hits at the same time to be able to make it to the final four.

[heyheymymy]

Texas S Carolina starting now on ESPN

Anyone supporting the Longhorns? Madison Booker wearing #35 in burnt orange basketball uniforms is a nod to the past. SC ran their mouth and I like Dawn but the hush gesture commercials are a big check you better cover now.

UCONN UCLA after wards. Lauren Betts is a formidable force but Paige Bueckers has some Curry esque shooting physics. Shots hit the rim with very little continuing momentum. Some good Final Four stuff this weekend.

[heyheymymy]

way too bad about Juju though and not happy about the hit job from Miss St on that one

[heyheymymy]

City of San Antonio looking very NICE this weekend in the media with the Final Four Mens Games coverage plus the Valero Open going on right now. Was watching that on TV weather looks warm and that's a real nice course up there by La Cantera, right?

[rascal]

Give Coop a look at his future home.

What else do they use this facility for? only the Spurs? Outside of this final 4 of course

[djohn2oo8]

City of San Antonio looking very NICE this weekend in the media with the Final Four Mens Games coverage plus the Valero Open going on right now. Was watching that on TV weather looks warm and that's a real nice course up there by La Cantera, right?

it’s a beautiful course over there

[BatManu20]

City of San Antonio looking very NICE this weekend in the media with the Final Four Mens Games coverage plus the Valero Open going on right now. Was watching that on TV weather looks warm and that's a real nice course up there by La Cantera, right?

The concerts downtown tonight got rained out lol. Weather is shit tonight unfortunately. Supposed to rain into tomorrow morning as well and then just be overcast and humid the rest of the day.

[ace3g]

Clayton is clutch.

[ginobilized]

Man, Clayton might make it to the league
Talkathon has him going #43, his stock has got to be rising. Broome doesn't look like he'll transition.

[heyheymymy]

Clayton the secret Curry love child?

[Mr. Body]

This is the dullest Tournament I remember. All the SEC teams were dull as shit and the only team I remember worth watching has been Duke.

[BackHome]

The Florida VS Auburn game was a very good game

[heyheymymy]

That 2nd half was insane stuff from Florida. They have a tendency to recover grandly in the 2nd and hit that 9-0 run after being down like 8 at the half.

Clayton is absolutely electric. What a player.

[GAustex]

U of F wins
I win my bracket thingy
Close to $500

[ace3g]

https://x.com/ESPNBET/status/1908689632536977618

[Dejounte]

Kon is EVERYWHERE and making plays on both ends

[Knoxxx]

Clayton is a legit 2nd round options for da Spurs.

[BackHome]

Damn Flagg is a bad bad boy

[Knoxxx]

Kon is EVERYWHERE and making plays on both ends

Sounds like someone has a Knoeppel fetish!

[ginobilized]

Kon is such a joy to watch. Ultimate glue guy, high IQ, elite off-ball movement, near perfect team defender.
I hope we get him unless we luck into a top 4 pick.

[Dejounte]

Kon is such a joy to watch. Ultimate glue guy, high IQ, elite off-ball movement, near perfect team defender.
I hope we get him unless we luck into a top 4 pick.

As you said this, he went zooming in for an offensive rebound for an easy layup

if the Spurs get up to 3 or 4, he should still be the pick. Neither Bailey or VJ will be making plays like this tbh

[exstatic]

That 2nd half was insane stuff from Florida. They have a tendency to recover grandly in the 2nd and hit that 9-0 run after being down like 8 at the half.

Clayton is absolutely electric. What a player.

Don’t fall in love with 22/23 YO college players. 90% of the time,it ends badly after a few seasons.

[Knoxxx]

This Flagg kid is almost as good as Knueppel!

[AusSpur]

Kneuppel looks closer to 6'4 than 6'7 to me. Could be the doughiness playing tricks on my eyes.

[heyheymymy]

Don’t fall in love with 22/23 YO college players. 90% of the time,it ends badly after a few seasons.

yeah I mean realistically he is mocked at like 45 overall and I almost even typed "at the college level" after what a player. Maybe this pulls him up in the 30s but I'm not expecting much at the next level. Still what a shooter. His shots swirl into the basket like a 2k animation

[mo7888]

yeah I mean realistically he is mocked at like 45 overall and I almost even typed "at the college level" after what a player. Maybe this pulls him up in the 30s but I'm not expecting much at the next level. Still what a shooter. His shots swirl into the basket like a 2k animation

I think he's got Jalen Brunson potential. His play this year would indicate he's a top 10 guy if you didn't know his age. We do know his age and that knocks him down quite a bit. But I don't think it should drop him to #45 in this draft. I see his value somewhere in the 20's much like I see the value of Tyrese Proctor (although their games are different).

[Robz4000]

Kneuppel looks closer to 6'4 than 6'7 to me. Could be the doughiness playing tricks on my eyes.

Thought the same tbh.

[BackHome]

If Flagg is 6’9 then I think Knup is a legit 6’6

[Mr. Body]

If Houston had any size or better scoring they'd get this one.

[mo7888]

If Flagg is 6’9 then I think Knup is a legit 6’6

Yup... to me he looks like he's an inch taller than Proctor and 2 inches shorter than Flagg.

[ace3g]

That is the part of Kon's game I don't like and noticed it in the first highlight video I watched of him; he relies on that pump fake on his drives, didn't see one dunk on any of those drives; got blocked just now.

[rascal]

That is the part of Kon's game I don't like and noticed it in the first highlight video I watched of him; he relies on that pump fake on his drives, didn't see one dunk on any of those drives; got blocked just now.

Lack of hops and vertically can hurt him in the big league.

[spurraider21]

That is the part of Kon's game I don't like and noticed it in the first highlight video I watched of him; he relies on that pump fake on his drives, didn't see one dunk on any of those drives; got blocked just now.
Most of his drives he can’t separate he just tries to pump and muscle through guys on the ground.

[ace3g]

And here we go.

[mystargtr34]

Lol at that retarded ref calling that foul on Flagg he got the rebound.

[Robz4000]

What a meltdown by Duke.

[Mr. Body]

That is the part of Kon's game I don't like and noticed it in the first highlight video I watched of him; he relies on that pump fake on his drives, didn't see one dunk on any of those drives; got blocked just now.

He has something like two dunks all year.

[Mr. Body]

If Houston had any size or better scoring they'd get this one.

[td4mvp2k]

flagg overrated as hell :lol

[Mr. Body]

What a meltdown by Duke.

All their overwhelming blue chips are wet-behind-the-ears freshmen and have a mediocre coach vs. an experienced team and better coach.

[Mr. Body]

flagg overrated as hell :lol

What a dumb take. He's really good. Just can't get his own shot right now.

[td4mvp2k]

What a dumb take. He's really good. Just can't get his own shot right now.
clear choke artist

[mystargtr34]

Maluach with 0 rebounds 😂

[djohn2oo8]

Shocked as fuck

[rascal]

He has something like two dunks all year.

Can't elevate- cement feet and under sized than the listed 6' 7 and people in here think he's going to play sf in the NBA.

[Mr. Body]

clear choke artist

Just go to bed. Stop.

[Mr. Body]

Can't elevate- cement feet and under sized than the listed 6' 7 and people in here think he's going to play sf in the NBA.

You're saying this like people think he's athletic. But yes, he's listed as a SF and plays more that position. Your understanding of athleticism is really bizarre.

[td4mvp2k]

Just go to bed. Stop.
dont be mad bro. spurs dodged a bullet from going full tank.

[cd98]

Please don’t forget “overrated” flag should be a high school senior.

[spurs10]

clear choke artist He might need you to mow his grass, so be nice.

[GAustex]

The foul on Flagg to give Coogs the last two free throws was a poor call

[djohn2oo8]

The foul on Flagg to give Coogs the last two free throws was a poor call
Didn’t matter as much in the end. All they had to do was score one more basket in 10 minutes

[Mr. Body]

The foul on Flagg to give Coogs the last two free throws was a poor call

Eh. The calls were pretty even good/bad. Houston lost a possession when Kon kicked the ball. From the ref's vantage the over the back looked worse than it was.

[Mr. Body]

What's clear is Duke no longer gets Coach K calls.

[Dejounte]

Too bad for Duke.
Flagg played me-ball too much in this game, more than he usually does. He really wanted the spotlight.
Kon was open several times for a 3. Think if they passed to him more on those open looks, this would have been an easy W. Kon played lockdown D all game, made timely touch rebounds, great passes… what a hooper.

[benefactor]

Well done HTown. I like Kon and Flagg as much as the next guy, but it's still Duke. Fuck them and lol

[CGD]

Maluach with 0 rebounds 😂

Yeah, I think his stock took a hit tonight

[exstatic]

Duke is kind of like the Lakers of the NCAA. Their stars are over publicized, and their support players are overhyped.

[Mr. Body]

Duke is kind of like the Lakers of the NCAA. Their stars are over publicized, and their support players are overhyped.

Definitely. ESPN darlings.

Coach K switched to getting 4-5 five star recruits every year and turned into a Coach Calipari turnstyle of freshmen every year. Just one mega class after another. K never won a championship after that and Scheyer is a worse coach by a good amount. This year they came close because the college year was pretty bad, but it's a risky model.

[heyheymymy]

I think he's got Jalen Brunson potential. His play this year would indicate he's a top 10 guy if you didn't know his age. We do know his age and that knocks him down quite a bit. But I don't think it should drop him to #45 in this draft. I see his value somewhere in the 20's much like I see the value of Tyrese Proctor (although their games are different).

I agree if FLA wins a National Championship on another big performance from him plus he does well in combine and workouts I could see a team going that high and pulling Clayton Jr like 25-35 ish perhaps 22-25 even. He also seems to have good demeanor and that poise is valuable to GMs. I have doubts as to just how he will translate to the next level but he is having a hell of a tournament. He's kinda short and seems more like a score first sg so at 6'3 and his age I think GMs will downgrade a bit for that but if there is a good fit in a limited role as a scorer at first and then see if he can establish himself from there some team might go for it. Players like Clayton sometimes do the Duarte tumble though and Jacquez is another example so teams might be wary of that. Also agree Proctor should receive good interest.

[exstatic]

I agree if FLA wins a National Championship on another big performance from him plus he does well in combine and workouts I could see a team going that high and pulling Clayton Jr like 25-35 ish perhaps 22-25 even. He also seems to have good demeanor and that poise is valuable to GMs. I have doubts as to just how he will translate to the next level but he is having a hell of a tournament. He's kinda short and seems more like a score first sg so at 6'3 and his age I think GMs will downgrade a bit for that but if there is a good fit in a limited role as a scorer at first and then see if he can establish himself from there some team might go for it. Players like Clayton sometimes do the Duarte tumble though and Jacquez is another example so teams might be wary of that. Also agree Proctor should receive good interest.
Some team will take Proctor, and gamble.

[Mr. Body]

Some team will take Proctor, and gamble.

I see what you did there.

[heyheymymy]

Some team will take Proctor, and gamble.

Spurs take Tre Johnson and keep Keldon for Johnson & Johnson

[benefactor]

Definitely. ESPN darlings.

Coach K switched to getting 4-5 five star recruits every year and turned into a Coach Calipari turnstyle of freshmen every year. Just one mega class after another. K never won a championship after that and Scheyer is a worse coach by a good amount. This year they came close because the college year was pretty bad, but it's a risky model.
I've been beating this drum for years. He was never that good of a coach. He's the Mack Brown of college basketball.

[Bill_Brasky]

I've been beating this drum for years. He was never that good of a coach. He's the Mack Brown of college basketball.

At least he didn't try to burn down the program on his way out like Mack's bitch ass.

[benefactor]

At least he didn't try to burn down the program on his way out like Mack's bitch ass.
Or hang on to his BFF offensive coordinator for years too long. Coach K was at least self-aware enough to see the writing on the wall.

[heyheymymy]

NCAAW championship game starts in 10 mins at 2pm CST

SCAR vs UCONN should be a good battle

[heyheymymy]

Te-Hina Paopao played well last game let's see how this goes

[heyheymymy]

Florida Gators seem like a team of destiny but Houston is well-coached

Game starts in 10 mins

[benefactor]

Houston looking good early

[CorrectCrusader]

Houstons defense is just stifling. Incredible season for them.

[BatManu20]

Houston’s defense is fucking insane. Completely smothering. #1 ranked Defense for a reason. Really impressive to watch tbh.

[Leetonidas]

Wemby sighting

[Dex]

I hate the running clock in college.

I know they use it sometimes in the NBA but it's so dumb that a team can burn 5-10 seconds off the game clock in clutch time just by making it hard to inbound quickly.

[Mr. Body]

There are more 0 star high school recruits starting in this championship game than five star high school recruits.

[BatManu20]

Wemby sitting next to Dream and acting a little too friendly for my liking tbh.

[CorrectCrusader]

Wemby sitting next to Dream and acting a little too friendly for my liking tbh.

Hakeem is one of the greatest centers ever, relax. Remember that Wemby literally smirked when Houston got the 3rd pick and not the first.

[scott]

Not drafting any of these refs for the NBA either, tbh

[scott]

Could Condon be a SRP backup C option? He's a little Zach Collins-y.

[mystargtr34]

Hahaha wtf. Choke job by Houston.

Houston used up all their luck against Duke. Needed an epic choke job to advance.

Congrats to Florida being the national champs.

Congrats to Houston for being the third best team in the country.

Congrats to Duke on being the best team in college basketball.

[mystargtr34]

Hahah pedo Hakeem looks devestated.

[CorrectCrusader]

I don't understand Houstons offensive scheme in the last 10 minutes. Stop bringing Florida's best defenders to the ball! Morons

[BatManu20]

What a choke by Houston. They led almost the entire game until the last minute. Terrible.

[heyheymymy]

Gators trailed by 12

[mo7888]

Could Condon be a SRP backup C option? He's a little Zach Collins-y.

I expect him to be in that 'no man's land' for us where we don't have a pick. 25-35 is my guess.

[GAustex]

U of F wins
I win my bracket thingy
Close to $500
$$$$$

[spurraider21]

seeing we didnt have a spurstalk bracket competition like last year i guess im still the reigning champ