Official/Directly Sourced 2025 Spurs Offseason News & Notes

[scott]

Thought it might be helpful to have a central repository of official and "directly sourced" Spurs news and notes going into the offseason. By "directly sourced" I mean a story that contains direct quotes from members of the Spurs organization (players, coaches, front office), not just speculation.

If the Spurs ever do an end-of-season press conference or any other media availability I'll also post edit this top post and post it here. No speculation or analysis in this intro thread, but this should spur discussion in the comments.

Starting off, the Express-News dropped 3 articles last week (use the quick copy/paste method to get past the paywall) with direct quotes from the subject players and teammates.


Will Keldon Johnson endure another offseason of trade rumors? by Jeff McDonald, April 16, 2025: https://www.expressnews.com/sports/spurs/article/keldon-johnson-endure-another-offseason-trade-20279036.php



Why Spurs' Devin Vassell is ready for reduced role next season by Tom Orsborn, April 17, 2025: https://www.expressnews.com/sports/spurs/article/spurs-devin-vassell-ready-reduced-role-next-20279268.php



Why the Spurs are putting trust in Jeremy Sochan for summer of 'good vibes' by Mike Finger, April 17, 2025: https://www.expressnews.com/sports/spurs/article/spurs-putting-trust-jeremy-sochan-summer-good-20279782.php


More to come as available.

[scott]

The Sochan article is the least "newsworthy" I guess, mostly it's just about how Branham, Castle and Vassell are going to England and Spain for a weeklong trip that Jeremy organized. Finger tries to bridge that into a broader idea that the Spurs should trust Jeremy. Kind of a stretch... but it's the offseason.

The Devin and Keldon articles are a lot more interesting to me, because they signal to me that 1) Devin either realizes or has been directly communicated with that he is going to be a 3rd or 4th option going forward and 2) the Spurs and Keldon love each other, but both side probably realize that he isn't core to the on-the-court product and that he'll be moved if the price is right.

[Ice009]

Thanks for the thread and links.

What do you mean by the quick copy and paste method? Do you mean highlight all the text and copy it before the subscription message pops up? Page seems to load up too fast before I can highlight the text.

Edit: Looking at those articles, they're bringing everyone back :(. Doesn't look like they're even going to try to make any big trades or changes. My hope now is that the basketball gods help us out in the draft lottery.

Also, this site is loading slower and slower. I can't handle it anymore. Is there any alternative sites we can go to if this place doesn't improve?

[Dejounte]

The Sochan article is the least "newsworthy" I guess, mostly it's just about how Branham, Castle and Vassell are going to England and Spain for a weeklong trip that Jeremy organized. Finger tries to bridge that into a broader idea that the Spurs should trust Jeremy. Kind of a stretch... but it's the offseason.

The Devin and Keldon articles are a lot more interesting to me, because they signal to me that 1) Devin either realizes or has been directly communicated with that he is going to be a 3rd or 4th option going forward and 2) the Spurs and Keldon love each other, but both side probably realize that he isn't core to the on-the-court product and that he'll be moved if the price is right.

The Jeremy article also signals him coming off the bench and how there’s nothing wrong with it… paraphrasing.

[Jordan Jackson]

Edit: Looking at those articles, they're bringing everyone back :(. Doesn't look like they're even going to try to make any big trades or changes. My hope now is that the basketball gods help us out in the draft lottery.

I’d be shocked if any of Vassell/Johnson/Sochan are moved. As long as Pop is in charge - coaching aside, he’s still the president - this “core”’will remain intact. He told you they were part of core. Believe him.

[Dverde]

https://x.com/ericzhangnba/status/1900224546751512643?s=46

[Extra Stout]

Eric Zhang is fake

[R. DeMurre]

Every approach has it adherents and successes, but sometimes it's frustrating to watch the "skip no steps/ pound the rock" approach and reconcile it with a team like Golden State, who've made aggressive moves multiple times over the years to stay successful-- pursuing Durant after winning 73 games (an easier one), getting Wiggins, who became an important piece in their last championship, and now landing Jimmy Butler. They're not the favorites to win it all, but it's impressive to see them in the mix after all of the injuries and turmoil of the past few years. Some people dismissed them after the '21 season, but they have a ring and continued relevance to show for taking the intelligently aggressive approach over the conservative patient continuity angle. Granted, it cost them a ton of money, and will be much harder to do in a league with more punishments for going over the salary caps.

[Leetonidas]

https://x.com/ericzhangnba/status/1900224546751512643?s=46

:lol this guy is definitely a ST poster

[Leetonidas]

https://x.com/ericzhangnba/status/1900224546751512643?s=46

:lol this guy is definitely a ST poster

[scott]

Thanks for the thread and links.

What do you mean by the quick copy and paste method? Do you mean highlight all the text and copy it before the subscription message pops up? Page seems to load up too fast before I can highlight the text.

Edit: Looking at those articles, they're bringing everyone back :(. Doesn't look like they're even going to try to make any big trades or changes. My hope now is that the basketball gods help us out in the draft lottery.

Also, this site is loading slower and slower. I can't handle it anymore. Is there any alternative sites we can go to if this place doesn't improve?

As soon as the page loads up, quickly hit CTRL+A and then CTRL+C

About the site... I think we should start thinking about backup options. Maybe a Private Subreddit?

[scott]

Every approach has it adherents and successes, but sometimes it's frustrating to watch the "skip no steps/ pound the rock" approach and reconcile it with a team like Golden State, who've made aggressive moves multiple times over the years to stay successful-- pursuing Durant after winning 73 games (an easier one), getting Wiggins, who became an important piece in their last championship, and now landing Jimmy Butler. They're not the favorites to win it all, but it's impressive to see them in the mix after all of the injuries and turmoil of the past few years. Some people dismissed them after the '21 season, but they have a ring and continued relevance to show for taking the intelligently aggressive approach over the conservative patient continuity angle. Granted, it cost them a ton of money, and will be much harder to do in a league with more punishments for going over the salary caps.

yeah, there seems to be this tendency among fans to view success through the lens of a dynasty built by homegrown stars and nothing else. I wonder if that is the Front Office's approach as well.

[Splits]

As soon as the page loads up, quickly hit CTRL+A and then CTRL+C

About the site... I think we should start thinking about backup options. Maybe a Private Subreddit?

I created a site back in the day which some of us would jump to during outages but I gotta dig up the url

[poopbox]

Every approach has it adherents and successes, but sometimes it's frustrating to watch the "skip no steps/ pound the rock" approach and reconcile it with a team like Golden State, who've made aggressive moves multiple times over the years to stay successful-- pursuing Durant after winning 73 games (an easier one), getting Wiggins, who became an important piece in their last championship, and now landing Jimmy Butler. They're not the favorites to win it all, but it's impressive to see them in the mix after all of the injuries and turmoil of the past few years. Some people dismissed them after the '21 season, but they have a ring and continued relevance to show for taking the intelligently aggressive approach over the conservative patient continuity angle. Granted, it cost them a ton of money, and will be much harder to do in a league with more punishments for going over the salary caps.

One thing you forgot to mention is that Lacob constantly puts pressure on the warriors front office to improve the team, something I have my doubts the Holts are doing with our front office.

[rjv]

apples and oranges. warriors know they're at the end of the curry window and have to make whatever moves they can to compete for another title. spurs are the beginning stages of building a franchise around Wemby. get back to me about GS when steph and draymond are no longer there.

[exstatic]

Every approach has it adherents and successes, but sometimes it's frustrating to watch the "skip no steps/ pound the rock" approach and reconcile it with a team like Golden State, who've made aggressive moves multiple times over the years to stay successful-- pursuing Durant after winning 73 games (an easier one), getting Wiggins, who became an important piece in their last championship, and now landing Jimmy Butler. They're not the favorites to win it all, but it's impressive to see them in the mix after all of the injuries and turmoil of the past few years. Some people dismissed them after the '21 season, but they have a ring and continued relevance to show for taking the intelligently aggressive approach over the conservative patient continuity angle. Granted, it cost them a ton of money, and will be much harder to do in a league with more punishments for going over the salary caps.

GS built their team through the draft, homegrown, for the first two titles. OKC appears to be on that path, too. It’s a good path.

[poopbox]

GS built their team through the draft, homegrown, for the first two titles. OKC appears to be on that path, too. It’s a good path.

Eh. The guy the whole team is built around and might win mvp was traded for :lol

But they did hit on their most important draft picks, Chet and J Will.

[R. DeMurre]

GS built their team through the draft, homegrown, for the first two titles. OKC appears to be on that path, too. It’s a good path.

OKC’s best player was acquired by trade, as was Hartenstein, after interior defense and rebounding were seen as shortcomings in last season’s playoff exit.

Boston, after some draft good fortune, traded for their #3, 4, & 5 guys in White, Holiday, and Porzingis.

[diego]

Every approach has it adherents and successes, but sometimes it's frustrating to watch the "skip no steps/ pound the rock" approach and reconcile it with a team like Golden State, who've made aggressive moves multiple times over the years to stay successful-- pursuing Durant after winning 73 games (an easier one), getting Wiggins, who became an important piece in their last championship, and now landing Jimmy Butler. They're not the favorites to win it all, but it's impressive to see them in the mix after all of the injuries and turmoil of the past few years. Some people dismissed them after the '21 season, but they have a ring and continued relevance to show for taking the intelligently aggressive approach over the conservative patient continuity angle. Granted, it cost them a ton of money, and will be much harder to do in a league with more punishments for going over the salary caps.

Seems like your glossing over the warriors mistakes over that period, the famous two timelines and how they went from a masterful (with some cap spike/curry injury contract luck) draft build + Durant to wasting several years, whiffing on high picks and mismanaging guys like Poole- overall, they did very well to win their last ship and Wiggins was key, but I'd still say they mismanaged the situation and ultimately get carried by the 2/4 Durant years, but in the 5 years after that they have 3 missing playoffs entirely and without the 22 chip there wouldn't be any argument they mismanaged their situation.

I love jimmy but barring freak injuries they're not sniffing the finals again.. 4 rings in 15-18 years with curry is a good result but considering the contracts and picks they had I'm not sure the aggressive approach is validated

[exstatic]

OKC’s best player was acquired by trade, as was Hartenstein, after interior defense and rebounding were seen as shortcomings in last season’s playoff exit.

Boston, after some draft good fortune, traded for their #3, 4, & 5 guys in White, Holiday, and Porzingis.
I didn’t mention Boston, because you seem to be bashing teams that build primarily through the draft, or at least the idea, and as you pointed out, they didn’t.

No team builds 100% through the draft. Even our first title team started a journeyman FA SG ( Elie) and a SF who was (re)acquired via trade in Elliott. The successful ones recently have drafted a high percentage of their roster, and most of the important pieces.

[KobesAchilles]

I want an official Spurstalk pact where we agree not to post Jermey Sochan shooting workouts in the summer. As well as articles talking about Vassell learning his new role on the team. Sochan will never be a shooter and Vassell will always be a chucker who plays zero defense.

[R. DeMurre]

I didn’t mention Boston, because you seem to be bashing teams that build primarily through the draft, or at least the idea, and as you pointed out, they didn’t.

No team builds 100% through the draft. Even our first title team started a journeyman FA SG ( Elie) and a SF who was (re)acquired via trade in Elliott. The successful ones recently have drafted a high percentage of their roster, and most of the important pieces.

I'm not bashing anyone. I'm just saying that being overly cautious has its own problems, and over-reliance on a platitude like "pounding the rock" can be a problem sometimes when being intelligently aggressive is what's needed to take advantage of situations where an impactful player is available. Like you said, no team builds 100% through the draft, so sometimes it's necessary to "strike while the iron's hot" (there you go-- another platitude!) in order to get things done. If Golden State or Boston insisted on pounding the rock and continuity and skip-no-steps, they wouldn't be in the positions they're currently in. The Fox move was a nice start, but outside of that Wright's history is one of being overly conservative and cautious.

[ambchang]

GS built their team through the draft, homegrown, for the first two titles. OKC appears to be on that path, too. It’s a good path.

They also fired mark jackson despite how popular he was with the players and brought in Steve Kerr, who had not prior head coaching experience but was a respected basketball analyst.

[The Truth #6]

Feels like this thread might evolve into simply bemoaning the lack of official statements, or the veracity of them.

[R. DeMurre]

I haven't seen many mentions of Yabusele, who will be an unrestricted free agent this summer. He's French, and knows Wemby from their Olympic team. I don't know anything about their specific relationship, but if they're friendly, that could be a factor. He's 6'8", shot 38% from 3 and 61.6% from 2. Not the worst option for depth if he's somewhat inexpensive and Wemby actually wants him here.

[Ice009]

A few of us here last off-season that watched all of France's Basketball games at the Olympics wanted Yabusele, but not many here were interested.

[RC_Drunkford]

I'm not bashing anyone. I'm just saying that being overly cautious has its own problems, and over-reliance on a platitude like "pounding the rock" can be a problem sometimes when being intelligently aggressive is what's needed to take advantage of situations where an impactful player is available. Like you said, no team builds 100% through the draft, so sometimes it's necessary to "strike while the iron's hot" (there you go-- another platitude!) in order to get things done. If Golden State or Boston insisted on pounding the rock and continuity and skip-no-steps, they wouldn't be in the positions they're currently in. The Fox move was a nice start, but outside of that Wright's history is one of being overly conservative and cautious.

the problem is that for Pop "pounding the rock" means keep trying to put a square peg into a round hole

[ginobilized]

https://x.com/ericzhangnba/status/1900224546751512643?s=46

When you least expect it, he comes out of the shadows with anther Zhang Bang!

[Robz4000]

Any word from tspence yet?

[mudyez]

When you least expect it, he comes out of the shadows with anther Zhang Bang!

While this list looks great and logic, I guess this "leak" means, all of them are off the table.

Reid+Adams would be what I'd hope for (while drafting Wings/Guards...hopefully Kon)

[Ice009]

While this list looks great and logic, I guess this "leak" means, all of them are off the table.

Reid+Adams would be what I'd hope for (while drafting Wings/Guards...hopefully Kon)

I really like the sounds of that. That's exactly what I'd hope for (apart from getting the number 1 pick).
Speaking of Adams, I liked the way he played in game 1 of the Warriors Vs Rockets series. He would be one of my top choices (probably first) as a guy to have out there to help protect Victor from any nonsense from the other teams. Is he a free agent?

[ismael-robert]

Thread has already devolved into random speculation and poo flinging

[quentin_compson]

I'm sure when scott created a thread about "official/directly sourced news", he had Eric Zhang twitter bombs in mind ...

[cutewizard]

I haven't seen many mentions of Yabusele, who will be an unrestricted free agent this summer. He's French, and knows Wemby from their Olympic team. I don't know anything about their specific relationship, but if they're friendly, that could be a factor. He's 6'8", shot 38% from 3 and 61.6% from 2. Not the worst option for depth if he's somewhat inexpensive and Wemby actually wants him here.

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I want Yabusele for us, nice fit

[exstatic]

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I want Yabusele for us, nice fit

I love how people think he is some great discovery. He’s a failed former Celtic FRP who didn’t get his year3 option picked up and was out of the league for 5 years. He’s putting up decent numbers, but on a shit team, so he may be nothing more than a tank commander.

[KobesAchilles]

Giannis is such an interesting player. I have no idea how to view him. On one hand, he is this incredible offensive force that just drops 30 points on like 60% shooting like it’s nothing. And I know that his shots are all at the rim but that’s what makes it more impressive. And he plays really hard on defense as well. The dude pulled down 18 boards.

But on the other hand, it doesn’t translate to winning. And yes I know he’s won a title but after that title the Bucks have been irrelevant and I’m not sure why. I know there were injuries involved. But at the same time there were times when they were fully healthy. A player of Giannis ability should be able to get his team past the first round. But he can’t. Is it bc we are officially past the age of bully ball? Should Giannis be a case study for Wemby to show that maybe he should be taking 10 threes a game? As long as he off sets that with 10 paint touches a game? Maybe Wemby shouldn’t be so focused on the paint like many of us clamor he should be? I honestly don’t know. But it’s really interesting to see what Wembys shot diet should be in this new league going forward.

[KobesAchilles]

Giannis is such an interesting player. I have no idea how to view him. On one hand, he is this incredible offensive force that just drops 30 points on like 60% shooting like it’s nothing. And I know that his shots are all at the rim but that’s what makes it more impressive. And he plays really hard on defense as well. The dude pulled down 18 boards.

But on the other hand, it doesn’t translate to winning. And yes I know he’s won a title but after that title the Bucks have been irrelevant and I’m not sure why. I know there were injuries involved. But at the same time there were times when they were fully healthy. A player of Giannis ability should be able to get his team past the first round. But he can’t. Is it bc we are officially past the age of bully ball? Should Giannis be a case study for Wemby to show that maybe he should be taking 10 threes a game? As long as he off sets that with 10 paint touches a game? Maybe Wemby shouldn’t be so focused on the paint like many of us clamor he should be? I honestly don’t know. But it’s really interesting to see what Wembys shot diet should be in this new league going forward.

[Dverde]

Santi Aldama Is a restricted FA. I wouldn’t mind a kick on the tires on him especially if it gets Memphis to pay him more.

[couchman]

Seeing how Yabusele worked with Wemby is part of why I think a guy like Queen could work.
Wemby led the team in scoring but the offense actually ran through Yabusele a lot, allowing Wemby to be a deadly off ball threat sometimes.

[R. DeMurre]

I love how people think he is some great discovery. He’s a failed former Celtic FRP who didn’t get his year3 option picked up and was out of the league for 5 years. He’s putting up decent numbers, but on a shit team, so he may be nothing more than a tank commander.

There's a pretty good difference between "I haven't seen many mentions of Yabusele" and "I've made a great discovery: Guerschon Ybusele!" Nobody here claimed anything like a "great discovery."

[couchman]

Seeing how Yabusele worked with Wemby is part of why I think a guy like Queen could work.
Wemby led the team in scoring but the offense actually ran through Yabusele a lot, allowing Wemby to be a deadly off ball threat sometimes.

[scott]

Seeing how Yabusele worked with Wemby is part of why I think a guy like Queen could work.
Wemby led the team in scoring but the offense actually ran through Yabusele a lot, allowing Wemby to be a deadly off ball threat sometimes.

Not seeing the connection between Yabu and Queen. Yabu shot 38% from 3 on 4 attempts/gm, whereas Queen was 7 of 35 for the entire season. I'm not a Queen expert by any means, but they seem like completely different players and Wemby's success with Yabu doesn't mean much relative to how he could work with Queen.

With that said... some of the way people have discussed Queen have me interested. Spurs need to just take the best dudes and figure out fit later.

[CGD]

Not seeing the connection between Yabu and Queen. Yabu shot 38% from 3 on 4 attempts/gm, whereas Queen was 7 of 35 for the entire season. I'm not a Queen expert by any means, but they seem like completely different players and Wemby's success with Yabu doesn't mean much relative to how he could work with Queen.

With that said... some of the way people have discussed Queen have me interested. Spurs need to just take the best dudes and figure out fit later.

The comp is because they’re both fat— that’s it.
Yabu not only shoots from range but has a great motor. Both things Queen appears to lack.

Here’s an idea. Just sign Yabu…

[Mr. Body]

Thread has already devolved into random speculation and poo flinging

The Draft thread has devolved into posters wanting to trade Stephon Castle.

[CGD]

To be expected. It’s slow until the lotto drawing and the combine/workouts. The mocks really won’t have new info, other than dispatches about the (few this year) international prospects still playing professionally.

[mo7888]

The Draft thread has devolved into posters wanting to trade Stephon Castle.

Has anybody said they want to trade Castle? If they have it's a minority position.

[Ice009]

I definitely don't want to trade him. It's an interesting premise that Chinook brought up, though.

[Dverde]

I'm sure when scott created a thread about "official/directly sourced news", he had Eric Zhang twitter bombs in mind ...

We needed a “This time for real, Official/Directly Sourced 2025 Spurs Offseason News & Notes (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=305102&page=2)” thread

[scott]

Did the edit button get taken away? I had planned on editing the top post with this, but I can't anymore...

Anyway, here is the Mitch press conference:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNLTVQKWES0

Edit: I can edit this post, but not the original post in the thread. I guess someone turned on a time limit to which posts can be edited. There goes the idea of this thread.

[exstatic]

Did the edit button get taken away? I had planned on editing the top post with this, but I can't anymore...

Anyway, here is the Mitch press conference:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNLTVQKWES0

Edit: I can edit this post, but not the original post in the thread. I guess someone turned on a time limit to which posts can be edited. There goes the idea of this thread.

I think the original post has either time limited or no edit functions because the edit functions include the delete option, and they don’t want posters nuking threads and taking all of the posts with them.

[heyheymymy]

Sochan jumper update

Exciting to see Jeremy's shot smoothing out so early in the offseason.


https://www.reddit.com/r/NBASpurs/comments/1ki8fff/sochan_jumper_update/

[heyheymymy]

That Sochan shot mechanics hitch looks GONE

It vanished before just to creep back in but still promising stuff to see continued work appear to be progressing

[LeBowen]

I've seen enough Ben Simmons workout videos to never get fooled again.

[Raven]

i'm kind of worried that all this work on the 3pointer, means he's not working on his post skills and defensive prowess. Then again, his finishing around the rim was massively improved this year, so perhaps it's not warranted.

[HankChinaski]

Shot mechanics look better, the biggest negative in his game that makes rotation lineups so difficult for the coaching staff to manage offensive and defensive output.

[mo7888]

I'm not buying his jumper until I see it in a real game. That said, IF his jumper was even at league average it would effect the way we look at this draft and team building because it would mean he could be on the court with Castle.

[itzsoweezee]

Sochan jumper update

Exciting to see Jeremy's shot smoothing out so early in the offseason.


https://www.reddit.com/r/NBASpurs/comments/1ki8fff/sochan_jumper_update/

Is this the new annual tradition now? On the shot itself, it still doesn’t look good. It doesn’t look natural, like he has to think through every step (just like most things he does on the basketball court)

[ginobilized]

Wow! Sochan shooting like a basketball player. A few thousand more reps and this will be his go-to form.

[Seventyniner]

That Sochan shot mechanics hitch looks GONE

It vanished before just to creep back in but still promising stuff to see continued work appear to be progressing

I'm as much of a Sochan stan as anyone here and even I am not all that impressed. Losing the hitch is important, but he should never be taking pullup or off-the-dribble threes. If there's any shot he should practice 10,000 times it's catch-and-shoot threes, especially from the corners.

[Mr. Body]

SpursTalk about workout vids here: "Nah, I don't believe it. It's a workout video."

SpursTalk in the draft thread: "OmyGOD this workout video. This guy is AMAZING."

[LeBowen]

SpursTalk about workout vids here: "Nah, I don't believe it. It's a workout video."

SpursTalk in the draft thread: "OmyGOD this workout video. This guy is AMAZING."

Forgive us for being skeptical about a player who refused to take wide open shots at the end of his third season in the league.
Three years of pressure free environment and no substantial improvement.

Can he actually do it and develop a functional shot? Sure, if some players did it after a decade, so can Jeremy after three years.
But as I said, being optimistic about his jumpshot would be naive.

[spurraider21]

SpursTalk about workout vids here: "Nah, I don't believe it. It's a workout video."

SpursTalk in the draft thread: "OmyGOD this workout video. This guy is AMAZING."
are these the same posters?

[exstatic]

are these the same posters?

scott would say no.

[KobesAchilles]

Dude made 28 threes last season. Sochan/Spurs can post all the shooting videos he wants. But as far as I’m concerned he is a scared shooter and that doesn’t go away in one offseason. So I’m happy he works on his shooting but I’m not going to take any of that seriously until he actually proves he can shoot in games.

Until Sochan makes 100 threes in a season idgaf about his “form” or the “work” he is putting in. If he really wants to be a good three point shooter he needs to be shooting from closer range and mastering that. Btw 100 threes made means he would rank about 160 in the league in made three pointers so I don’t think I’m asking for that much.

[HankChinaski]

I'm as much of a Sochan stan as anyone here and even I am not all that impressed. Losing the hitch is important, but he should never be taking pullup or off-the-dribble threes. If there's any shot he should practice 10,000 times it's catch-and-shoot threes, especially from the corners.

It may be a possibility they are having him do that so he maintains his form outside of catch and shoot.

[spurraider21]

scott would say no.
it would be useful to know if its the case or not. otherwise theres nothing noteworthy or contradictory about it

[Dejounte]

Practicing pull up 3’s is interesting. Is he trying to be a small forward? If so, changes the depth chart a little bit.

[Mr. Body]

Forgive us for being skeptical about a player who refused to take wide open shots at the end of his third season in the league.
Three years of pressure free environment and no substantial improvement.

Can he actually do it and develop a functional shot? Sure, if some players did it after a decade, so can Jeremy after three years.
But as I said, being optimistic about his jumpshot would be naive.

I'm skeptical of workout videos, period. That's my point.

[rjv]

damn, it's gonna be a long off-season.

[itzsoweezee]

That Sochan shot mechanics hitch looks GONE

It vanished before just to creep back in but still promising stuff to see continued work appear to be progressing

There is still a hitch, though not as pronounced as before.

[R. DeMurre]

Having a healthy skepticism is probably wise in general, but at some point decisions have to be made. This is what makes the draft so dramatic and entertaining!

[heyheymymy]

To be realistic it's an early season workout vid of a guy with a notorious amount of work to do yet on his shot. I'm seeing baby steps here and I'm not sure if it was ever meant to be some bombshell otherwise. As mentioned in my OP, the progress has regressed before so I think that cements where my optimism level lies currently. Okay lol so maybe the hitch isn't "GONE" in my bluefont jest.

It seems about as appropriate of a submission as this thread could see considering the directly sourced 25 offseason news purpose.

[Raven]

I'm as much of a Sochan stan as anyone here and even I am not all that impressed. Losing the hitch is important, but he should never be taking pullup or off-the-dribble threes. If there's any shot he should practice 10,000 times it's catch-and-shoot threes, especially from the corners.

I disagree, pop played him at pg because he believed he could be a legitimate ballhandler on the offensive end. If he develops an off the dribble triple, even at .330 success, that would still put him in a completely different category

[objective]

His shot is still hitchy in a relaxed environment with no pressure or clock or defense. After all these years of work still can't trust it.

The Ben Simmons comps are justified. They need to trade him before getting stuck with his next contract

[objective]

His shot is still hitchy in a relaxed environment with no pressure or clock or defense. After all these years of work still can't trust it.

The Ben Simmons comps are justified. They need to trade him before getting stuck with his next contract

[The Truth #6]

Obviously he's shooting Philippine style now. Why didn't anyone think of it before!!

[poopbox]

Pop steps down and all of a sudden a Jeremy starts shooting the ball with a somewhat normal nba shooting motion :lol

[RC_Drunkford]

as long as there's some progress it's good. He's swishing all those jumpers and it's still early in the offseason. I'm not getting my hopes up, but he's also not a lost cause. He's clearly putting the work in, so we'll have to see how that translates.

[Ice009]

as long as there's some progress it's good. He's swishing all those jumpers and it's still early in the offseason. I'm not getting my hopes up, but he's also not a lost cause. He's clearly putting the work in, so we'll have to see how that translates.

The problem is, he's got to be able to shoot them with confidence in the games. There will be a lot of high pressure games and situations where he's going to have to take a shot and he can't pass those up if he's wide open.

[CGD]

Man i keep seeing Aaron Gordon, and hope for a similar arch for Jeremy. The Aaron Gordon in Orlando was nowhere near the player he’s become today. If realized that would be an amazing pairing with Wembs.

[exstatic]

Man i keep seeing Aaron Gordon, and hope for a similar arch for Jeremy. The Aaron Gordon in Orlando was nowhere near the player he’s become today. If realized that would be an amazing pairing with Wembs.

Aaron was another player who was super charged by playing with Jokic. My hope for Wemby’s developmental arc is that he becomes the supercharger for our machine.

[LeBowen]

Aaron was another player who was super charged by playing with Jokic. My hope for Wemby’s developmental arc is that he becomes the supercharger for our machine.

Jokic is an offensive supercharger, Wemby will be a defensive supercharger.
Can't ask Wemby to do the same thing on offense as Jokic because he's probably the best teammate enabler since Magic.

[scott]

He's working on his shot, and that's good. We'll just have to wait and see if it translates. I still say we should let him be an RFA next offseason and let him have a Lonnie Walker-like "earn it" 4th year.

[ambchang]

Not sure making 4 shots in a work out video, with two of them in slow mo to lengthen the video is a positive sign. That said, better than not having a work out video. We hoping they can at least find a segment where he made four or five straight

[bluebellmaniac]

He's working on his shot, and that's good. We'll just have to wait and see if it translates. I still say we should let him be an RFA next offseason and let him have a Lonnie Walker-like "earn it" 4th year.

I hear they're calling him Curry Jr.

[cutewizard]

My new all time first five is

Chamberlain at center,
Jokic and Bird at forward
Magic and Jordan at guard

[Ice009]

Yeah, Tim Duncan is always in my starting 5 all-time. I don't see how you can not have him especially if you're a Spurs fan.

[Fireball]

Yeah, Tim Duncan is always in my starting 5 all-time. I don't see how you can not have him especially if you're a Spurs fan.

This!

[Ice009]

As great and Chamberlin and Jokic are, they have less Championships between them that TD has by himself. You come off as a huge Spurs fan, but then disrespect them by not having the greatest Spur in your starting 5. Doesn't sit well with me.

[KobesAchilles]

I’d would pair Tim with Jokic. Bird, Curry, and Jordan as my others

[Ice009]

I’d would pair Tim with Jokic. Bird, Curry, and Jordan as my others

Again, don't see how a Spurs fan can put either Chamberlin or Jokic (2 and 1 ring players) ahead of TD in their all-time starting 5 team. Both these guys had huge offensive numbers, but where are the rings? TD could have won 8 if a few things broke the Spurs' way. The Spurs' margin for error was a lot lower than other teams of the era too without an almost unlimited budget like some teams had. I wouldn't even pick Jokic ahead of Duncan if it came down to it. I value TD on defense and offense. Jokic is great on offense (not lately, though). Huge loss from the Nuggets.

I'm sorry, nothing personal against CW, but I am already sick of the disrespect with the media and former players hardly ever mentioning TD and always passing him over when talking about great players, but now, Spurs fans forgetting him too. Nah, F that. And F-all the flashy players that never win rings or only win 1. They can keep their stats.

[HankChinaski]

My All time Starting Five

C: Arvydas Sabonis (Pre NBA)
PF: Timmy D.
SF: Bird
SG: Jordan
PG: Drazen Petrovic

[scott]

Well this thread took a turn.

[Brazil]

I’d would pair Tim with Jokic. Bird, Curry, and Jordan as my others

Change Bird with Lebron and you may onto something

[KobesAchilles]

Change Bird with Lebron and you may onto something
I don’t like all the drama LeBron constantly brings to his teams. I know he is an all time great but he is also a diva and since I already have great players on my team I figure I’d have a killer like Bird with no drama than a slightly better player in LeBron is who king of excuses.

I also would prefer to have some spacing on my team and Bird is the better shooter.

[Brazil]

I don’t like all the drama LeBron constantly brings to his teams. I know he is an all time great but he is also a diva and since I already have great players on my team I figure I’d have a killer like Bird with no drama than a slightly better player in LeBron is who king of excuses.

I also would prefer to have some spacing on my team and Bird is the better shooter.

I see what you mean, this team does not need that much of playmaking with Jokic and Curry anyway

[Arguendo]

Fun...But only one ball, how much amazing passing and ball dominance do you need at the cost of D? Bird and Jordan need and deserve the ball, take both over Magic. Joker too.
Wilt's way before my time and while his athleticism was incredible for the time, would it be now in todays NBA?

Jordan-Bird-Joker would be amazing, bullying the shit out of opponents, I think probably better with a D anchor like Timmy/Hakeem/DRob and a PG that D's and shoot's like CP3/Kidd/maybe Stockton or even Lebron if you wanna replaces Magic size- but Lebron gonna want the ball and no one, not even Bron or Wilt should take the ball outta Jordans hands. Maybe Steph as a pure off-ball, movement shooter. Fuck maybe even Pippen for just a defense monster team

Joker-Hakeem-Bird-Jordan + PG or wing that can D or shoot or both- 2 top-10 D defenders ever maybe 3 depending on 5th guy, 2 best/toughest competitors/shit talkers ever, everyone but Joker is switchable w/D versatility, anyone can hit the 3 except maybe D center but I think Timmy/Hakeem/DRob all had good enough touch to get to at least avg 3 if they played in the difference era.

Joker running as point-center with Bird-Jordan-Steph/guard of choice up top and any of Timmy/Hakeem/DRob as the screener/cutter/Reb/mid-range guy. That's the beautiful game!

[Arguendo]

Change Bird with Lebron and you may onto something
Bird over Lebron on that team, better offensive player, almost as much creation, tougher, and most importantly Jordan and Joker would get fed up and beat the s*** out of Lebron. Lebron could never handle being 2nd dog. Joker-Timmy-Bird-Jordan-Curry care way more about winning than Lebron, Bronny would pout, demand ball, half-ass-it and get his ass kicked by Jordan and/or Joker, and take his talents elsewhere.

[Arguendo]

As great and Chamberlin and Jokic are, they have less Championships between them that TD has by himself. You come off as a huge Spurs fan, but then disrespect them by not having the greatest Spur in your starting 5. Doesn't sit well with me.
Timmy played 19 seasons. Next year will be Jokers 11th @ age 30. Dave-Tony-Manu-Kawhi are way better than anyone Joker has player with and Joker is the biggest overall O mismatch in history. Give Joker a chance to catch-up.
But Timmy and Joker together...wow. Praying Joker somehow lands here and gets a few 'ships next to Wemby! Joker's game is gonna age incredibly well, 16th all-time in both Ast/g and Reb/g and his first season was a 41st pick proving himself with a Rookie coach, otherwise he's closer to top-10 in both-EVER-that's crazy.
38% on 3.4/g over the past 5 season, easily the best passing big ever, as complete Offensively as anyone ever and simply a top 10 creator ever. Doesn't rely on athleticism at all. Durable. He's gonna play til 40, just like a lot of the best passers ever.

/sorry, this is all off-topic- just love these discussions hahaha

[Brazil]

Bird over Lebron on that team, better offensive player, almost as much creation, tougher, and most importantly Jordan and Joker would get fed up and beat the s*** out of Lebron. Lebron could never handle being 2nd dog. Joker-Timmy-Bird-Jordan-Curry care way more about winning than Lebron, Bronny would pout, demand ball, half-ass-it and get his ass kicked by Jordan and/or Joker, and take his talents elsewhere.

I understand the point but acting like Bird could handle being 2nd dog is quite suspicious. Also Bird is a high usage player who used to get the ball in his hands a lot. People like to underestimate what kind of beast prime Lebron is tbh...

But then again starting 5 are personal preference. Exercice is not meant to solve tactical issues like ball sharing. You'd have to rethink the team to get something more coherent.

Picking a goat team yet functional is almost impossible task, at one point you trust talented dudes will figure out, I guess in any list you want high IQ players willing to play off the ball for the greater good. With this kind of profile you may want to let MJ coming off the bench :lol

[Brazil]

Timmy played 19 seasons. Next year will be Jokers 11th @ age 30. Dave-Tony-Manu-Kawhi are way better than anyone Joker has player with and Joker is the biggest overall O mismatch in history. Give Joker a chance to catch-up.
But Timmy and Joker together...wow. Praying Joker somehow lands here and gets a few 'ships next to Wemby! Joker's game is gonna age incredibly well, 16th all-time in both Ast/g and Reb/g and his first season was a 41st pick proving himself with a Rookie coach, otherwise he's closer to top-10 in both-EVER-that's crazy.
38% on 3.4/g over the past 5 season, easily the best passing big ever, as complete Offensively as anyone ever and simply a top 10 creator ever. Doesn't rely on athleticism at all. Durable. He's gonna play til 40, just like a lot of the best passers ever.

/sorry, this is all off-topic- just love these discussions hahaha

Jokic is the best big offensive player ever and his defense is quite underestimated but not comparable to Timmy. We cannot go wrong with pairing Tim and Jokic in any team tbh... but then you leave out of the team Shaq and it is obviously a problem

[spurraider21]

all time starting 5 is clearly

Russell Westbrook
Kobe Bryant
Draymond Green
Karl Malone
Zaza Pachulia

[RC_Drunkford]

:lol I thought this was a thread about Spurs offseason news

[Seventyniner]

:lol I thought this was a thread about Spurs offseason news

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

[ace3g]

https://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/headshots/nba/players/full/4066259.png&w=65&h=90&scale=crop&background=0xcccccc&transparent=falseDe'Aaron Fox (https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4066259/deaaron-fox), Spurs (https://www.espn.com/nba/team/_/name/sa/san-antonio-spurs)Eligible to sign: Aug. 3
Extension deadline: June 30, 2026
Fox was adamant after he was traded in February that San Antonio was not going to be a pit stop in his career.
"There was no f---ing list," Fox told ESPN regarding trade talks with his former team, the Kings, at the trade deadline. "There was one team. I wanted to go to San Antonio."
Similar to Doncic, Fox is eligible to agree to an extension after the Finals conclude but is restricted on the amount of years and total value. The three-year, $140.2 million extension increases to four-years, $229 million starting on Aug. 3.
What to expect: Fox signs a four-year, $229 million extension.


https://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/columnists/full/marks_bobby.png&h=80&w=80&scale=crop
Bobby MarksJun 3, 2025, 08:00 AM ET

NBA offseason 2025 - SGA, Jokic, Luka among top extension candidates - ESPN (https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/45437085/nba-offseason-2025-sga-jokic-luka-top-extension-candidates)

[ace3g]

https://x.com/HPbasketball/status/1929923612791759202


Some other alleged pick intel:

Spurs are willing to move 14th for a veteran

[scott]

https://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/headshots/nba/players/full/4066259.png&w=65&h=90&scale=crop&background=0xcccccc&transparent=falseDe'Aaron Fox (https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4066259/deaaron-fox), Spurs (https://www.espn.com/nba/team/_/name/sa/san-antonio-spurs)

Eligible to sign: Aug. 3
Extension deadline: June 30, 2026
Fox was adamant after he was traded in February that San Antonio was not going to be a pit stop in his career.
"There was no f---ing list," Fox told ESPN regarding trade talks with his former team, the Kings, at the trade deadline. "There was one team. I wanted to go to San Antonio."
Similar to Doncic, Fox is eligible to agree to an extension after the Finals conclude but is restricted on the amount of years and total value. The three-year, $140.2 million extension increases to four-years, $229 million starting on Aug. 3.
What to expect: Fox signs a four-year, $229 million extension.


https://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/columnists/full/marks_bobby.png&h=80&w=80&scale=crop
Bobby MarksJun 3, 2025, 08:00 AM ET

NBA offseason 2025 - SGA, Jokic, Luka among top extension candidates - ESPN (https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/45437085/nba-offseason-2025-sga-jokic-luka-top-extension-candidates)

I'm hopeful the Spurs are able to do a deal with Fox for 2 years at the Max, and then declining in years 3 and 4 with 4 being a player option.

It would come out to 4/203 if I'm doing my math right (51/56/51/47) but in reality it would be 3/157 and then he could opt out and sign for anywhere up to 35% of the max as a 10-year vet.

It's a slim hope, but I think this is a pretty fair deal for both sides.

[scott]

https://x.com/HPbasketball/status/1929923612791759202

This was a good article.

Loved it until I saw this... wtf


There’s always the possibility of a name they weren’t expecting to fall does, like Dylan Harper.

[scottspurs]

If the Spurs are willing to move 14 for a veteran they sure as hell won’t be drafting a project at 14 if they can’t find the right trade partner. Cedric Coward, Nique Clifford and Maxime Raynaud are going off like alarm bells if this is true.

[ace3g]

https://x.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1930238040976367825

[RC_Drunkford]

https://x.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1930238040976367825

I'm not trading down for Maluach tbh

[dubross]

Possibly trading up maybe

[RC_Drunkford]

Spurs might be willing to part with the ATL 27 pick. At least that's what it looks like to me. They would either trade it back to ATL for Okongwu, or they could use it to move up and draft Maluach. Rockets #10 is for sale for example.