2025 Draft Lottery Night live thread!

[LeBowen]

Damn... my one roll to rule them all... in fact ruled them all.

My 0.4% wasn't 0.4% after all, three top4 teams moved down.
The thing I'm most annoyed about is that Mavs swap goes from an amazing asset to mediocre.
Since they got Flagg, I'd offer them their swap back in exchange for PJ Washington, tbh.

I guess workouts will decide Harper's fate.
Bailey seems like a much better fit, it's time for Spurs scouting department to earn their paychecks.

I don't think a trade for Giannis happens. Maybe Nico is retarded enough to do it.

[heyheymymy]

not gonna lie kinda pissed that DAL got #1 handed to them for being fuckups. okay DAL had a less than 2% chance of hitting #1. It was like 1.8%.

This is one year after ATL jumped PLUS NINE slots. Anomalies are anomalous because they are statistically RARE

Let's quit with the xbox bullshit but hey I got #2 and #14 I can't complain. Just wish a more deserving team hit #1, glad PHI was top 6 but wish PHI stuck right at #6 ,and wish ATL didn't get the SAC pick. Still a fantastic night, denied OKC held back HOU and got #2. Spurs are the only team with 2 lottery picks.

[rascal]

Vassell needs to be on the trade block.

Harper and McNeeley or Fleming, trade Vassell for a 4 or 5.

[thiste]

We are extremely, extremely fortunate, fellers
I think you missed at least two extremelys :)

[Dex]

Hope Flagg has fun in Dallas with two broken-down stars in their mid 30s.

[RC_Drunkford]

Try to trade up to get the #1 pick. It‘s Nico Harrison, he‘ll do it

[rankingtear]

MIL is for sure calling Brian Wrong right now.

[Russ]

To go contrarian, if the Spurs like a local (80 miles away) guy Tre Johnson . . .

Do they use #2 on him or do they trade down, get a little vig, and then take him later on.

Just spitballing -- I think they'll take Harper (and probably should).

But, to me, Tre is intriguing.

[vy65]

Coop did not look happy. Perhaps cope, but does he pull an Alex Sarr?

[Ice009]

Is it possible Dallas trade the number 1 for Giannis? Windy said they've been trying to get Giannis for a while. They tried trading Luka for him.

[RC_Drunkford]

Kyrie is out for next season, Mavs need a PG

[mo7888]

This very much opens up the possibility of a Castle at maybe peak value + Vassell as foundation of a blockbuster trade.

It does seem to put it more into play.

[Blizzardwizard]

with how poorly the site has been running lately i think the traffic surge from winning the lottery would actually send this place into submission once and for all


would be an interesting experiment tbh let's do it and see what happens @ adam silver


i apologise @ adam silver. you were right.


winning #1 would've capsized this place instantly which would've been no fun


giving us #2 to see if the ol' slovenian hamsters have still got just enough in them to keep the lights on is much more entertaining

[baseline bum]

JFC the Texas triangle is going to be a nightmare for the rest of the league with Flagg in Dallas

[heyheymymy]

Spurs are the only team with 2 lottery picks. Ton of flexibility to get deals done if they want.

[rascal]

Vassell needs to be on the trade block.

Harper 2 and McNeeley or Fleming 14, trade Vassell for a 4 or 5.

[intlspurshk]

Crazy. Spurs should keep Dylan Harper and enjoy the cheap salary during the first 4 years. SPURs can trade all other players other than Wemby, Castle & Fox and picks for Giannis

[100%duncan]

Damn so close yet so far :lol Payment for the Luka trade

[thiste]

Kyrie is out for next season, Mavs need a PG

For his own health/security, I don't think Nico can afford not drafting Flagg

[Chinook]

Kyrie is out for next season, Mavs need a PG

They would have loved Harper. I wonder if they'd consider a trade-down and if so what the price would be. Flagg is the top pick, but he's not Wemby.

[couchman]

Harper is the obvious choice.
He’s going to be a stud and is clearly alone as the only prospect in the tier below Flagg and above everyone else.

I’m also OK trading the pick(s) for an established star like Durant or Giannis.

[Chinook]

Kyrie is out for next season, Mavs need a PG

They would have loved Harper. I wonder if they'd consider a trade-down and if so what the price would be. Flagg is the top pick, but he's not Wemby.

[heyheymymy]

Would be crazy if Mavs ownership dumps Luka, crashes the franchise, gets #1, drafts Flagg and then moves the club to Vegas. Wonder how many rings Flagg will win for the Vegas Outlaws?

[scott]

My 0.4% wasn't 0.4% after all, three top4 teams moved down.
The thing I'm most annoyed about is that Mavs swap goes from an amazing asset to mediocre.
Since they got Flagg, I'd offer them their swap back in exchange for PJ Washington, tbh.

I guess workouts will decide Harper's fate.
Bailey seems like a much better fit, it's time for Spurs scouting department to earn their paychecks.

I don't think a trade for Giannis happens. Maybe Nico is retarded enough to do it.

Nico probably on the phone now trying to Trade #1 for KD or some shit... probably negotiating against himself by telling Ishbia he can add more picks if needed :lol

In all seriousness... Harper is kind of a better fit for Dallas... I wonder if there is any scenario where Nico would be willing to swap #1 for #2...

[poopbox]

Spurs don't need to get cute. Draft Bailey at 2 and keep it moving. Package 14 with one or two of Devin, Keldon, and Sochan to get another real nba player and they are set up pretty good for awhile.

[LeBowen]

What are our options?

1) Pick Harper.
2) Pick Bailey.
3) Trade down to #5, get assets from Ainge and pick BPA.
4) Trade for Giannis.
5) Try to move up to #1 with like 3 more picks since Mavs need a PG and Nico might just be dumb enough.

[intlspurshk]

Would Mavs trade Flagg to Lakers now? haha

[CGD]

We are so damn lucky! Wow, can’t believe it.

I havent studied Harper, but my gut says this pick is traded. Setting aside the Giannis stuff, this feels like a good chance to move back 1-3 slots to pick up another juicy asset while still getting someone like Tre, Ace or VJ.

[thiste]

Would be crazy if Mavs ownership dumps Luka, crashes the franchise, gets #1, drafts Flagg and then moves the club to Vegas. Wonder how many rings Flagg will win for the Vegas Outlaws?

None as long as Victor is playing. Except if he comes to SA obviously.

[SpurSpike]

Mavs are trying to win now, would not surprise me at all if they traded #1 for Giannis. Winning now was the"reason" for getting AD.

[100%duncan]

:lol @ the top 2 picks going to the West

[r0drig0lac]

2nd pick for the Bucks in Giannis trade

[vy65]

Nico probably on the phone now trying to Trade #1 for KD or some shit... probably negotiating against himself by telling Ishbia he can add more picks if needed :lol

In all seriousness... Harper is kind of a better fit for Dallas... I wonder if there is any scenario where Nico would be willing to swap #1 for #2...

#2 + Castle for #1.

[vy65]

#2 + matching salary to UTA for Lauri

[RC_Drunkford]

Trying to trade up to get #1 from Dallas should absolutely be our top priority. If that ain‘t working I‘m split between trading for Giannis or drafting Harper. And you definitely don’t draft anybody else at #2 than Harper tbh

[Blizzardwizard]

already seeing reddit posts saying we don't need harper because we have vassell, branham and wesley :lol

[baseline bum]

Coop did not look happy. Perhaps cope, but does he pull an Alex Sarr?

Fuck I hope not since he could just pull out and then Harper goes #1 and the Spurs pick goes way down in value.

[baseline bum]

#2 + Castle for #1.

Not a chance Dallas is taking that unless Flagg withdraws

[mo7888]

Nico probably on the phone now trying to Trade #1 for KD or some shit... probably negotiating against himself by telling Ishbia he can add more picks if needed :lol

In all seriousness... Harper is kind of a better fit for Dallas... I wonder if there is any scenario where Nico would be willing to swap #1 for #2...

We should aggressively explore it. I'd much rather have Flagg than Giannis.

[LeBowen]

Earlier today there were reports that Ainge will do everything possible to move up to #1 if he doesn't win the lottery.

We're in for the most interesting summer in a long while.

[Trainwreck2100]

Coop did not look happy. Perhaps cope, but does he pull an Alex Sarr?

For like 2 seconds, He was 50/50 for playing with a franchise where he wouldn't have to stress, or playing for a giant shit show and the shit show won.

[Davidicus]

Flagg gives DAL the luxury to win now and win later. I think that pick is locked.

Harper feels a lot like Castle - 6’6” guard with strength, handles, craftiness, and doesn’t thrive through jump shots.

Definitely will study up more on Harper, but Giannis for the next 5-8 years is quite tempting.

[vy65]

#2 + #14 + 27ATL + Vassell + Keldon to PHX for Booker.

[CGD]

What are our options?

1) Pick Harper.
2) Pick Bailey.
3) Trade down to #5, get assets from Ainge and pick BPA.
4) Trade for Giannis.
5) Try to move up to #1 with like 3 more picks since Mavs need a PG and Nico might just be dumb enough.

6) Swap 2 for 4 with NOP for the MIL picks they own. Regardless of what SAS does those have become gold.

[Ice009]

#2 + matching salary to UTA for Lauri

Not a chance.

[jjspur]

It must really suck to tank all year long like Utah and the Wizards and then get screwed in the lottery. I'm laughing at both those teams. I won't say the lottery is rigged but another system is probably needed . Danny Ainge sucks anyway.

[tim_duncan_fan]

People probably said the same about the Spurs getting Wemby.

I was making a joke about the Mavs going from Dirk to Luka to Cooper

[djohn2oo8]

#2 + #14 + 27ATL + Vassell + Keldon to PHX for Booker.
Not enough. Phoenix brass are morons and are already asking for the moon.

[exstatic]

Flagg gives DAL the luxury to win now and win later. I think that pick is locked.

Harper feels a lot like Castle - 6’6” guard with strength, handles, craftiness, and doesn’t thrive through jump shots.

Definitely will study up more on Harper, but Giannis for the next 5-8 years is quite tempting.

Your endpoints are his year 36-39 seasons. He’s 31 now.

[rjv]

#2 + #14 + 27ATL + Vassell + Keldon to PHX for Booker.

:rollin

[tim_duncan_fan]

Can Harper shoot?

How does his ceiling compare to Steph Castle's?

[Guru of Nothing]

I'll bet CP3 is negotiating for the minimum right about now.

[exstatic]

It must really suck to tank all year long like Utah and the Wizards and then get screwed in the lottery. I'm laughing at both those teams. I won't say the lottery is rigged but another system is probably needed . Danny Ainge sucks anyway.

The last 3 worst overall record teams have picked 5th. Learn or burn, fools.

[Spurs Brazil]

Tom Orsborn‬
‪@tomorsborn.bsky.social‬
· 3min
Wright on what this latest dose of lottery luck can yield for the Spurs: "You want the highest level talent you can, with the highest character, and we think there are good players in this draft that help us accomplish that. We're excited. Great night for the organization, the city, the team."

[Arcadian]

I love that Mavericks fans can't even take joy in their lottery win :lol

[3&D_TBH]

Gut reaction: Spurs will trade down to 4-5, pick up an asset, still get their guy, and hope for a serviceable big at 14.

[Robz4000]

They would have loved Harper. I wonder if they'd consider a trade-down and if so what the price would be. Flagg is the top pick, but he's not Wemby.

#1 for #2, their swap back, and a million 2nds.

[tbdog]

Can Harper shoot?

How does his ceiling compare to Steph Castle's?

I need to know this as well.

[Arcadian]

It must really suck to tank all year long like Utah and the Wizards and then get screwed in the lottery. I'm laughing at both those teams. I won't say the lottery is rigged but another system is probably needed . Danny Ainge sucks anyway.

Well that's precisely how the NBA is trying to discourage tanking, by flattening the odds of winning across the bottom teams. Tanking isn't *supposed* to be a winning strategy. So any team relying on tanking is stupid in the first place.

It's not "rigged," it's basic fucking probability. Anything greater than 0 probability has a real world chance of occurring.

[spurraider21]

Flagg gives DAL the luxury to win now and win later. I think that pick is locked.

Harper feels a lot like Castle - 6’6” guard with strength, handles, craftiness, and doesn’t thrive through jump shots.

Definitely will study up more on Harper, but Giannis for the next 5-8 years is quite tempting.
Harper is a better shooter than Castle not that he's a sniper or anything. he didnt really have the luxury of playing off people the way Castle did at UConn. on catch and shoot 3's, harper shot 38% from 3 (55 attempts), while only shooting 30% off the dribble (85 attempts)

[tonight...you]

#1 for #2, their swap back, and a million 2nds.
I'm glad you dreamed a little dream for me.

[Spurs Brazil]

Tom Orsborn‬
‪@tomorsborn.bsky.social‬
· 2min
Mitch Johnson celebrates the Spurs landing the No. 2 pick with 1-year-old Jameson: “It’s a deep draft, a lot of dynamic, versatile players…with the number two, you get a little bit more of the pick of the litter.”

[tbdog]

#1 for #2, their swap back, and a million 2nds.

Gee, Dallas might do that if Flagg is not this generational talent like Zion, Wemby, etc. They need that lead guard with Irving out and someone to replace Irving, and they need future picks back. They'll want more and will get more. But to start negotiations, that's a good start. Only if Dallas don't consider Flagg deserves this hype. If they do, it's a simple no.

[ginobilized]

Trade #2 and scrub brush to the Pels for TMIII? I know one other SpursTalk aficionado who who be into this move.

Our options are incredible.

[scott]

#2 for #7 and TMIII anyone?

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

#1 for #2, their swap back, and a million 2nds.

Actually not a horrible suggestion.

[CGD]

Gee, Dallas might do that if Flagg is not this generational talent like Zion, Wemby, etc. They need that lead guard with Irving out and someone to replace Irving, and they need future picks back. They'll want more and will get more. But to start negotiations, that's a good start. Only if Dallas don't consider Flagg deserves this hype. If they do, it's a simple no.

Does Flagg have any leverage here, or did that ship sail when he declared for the draft?

[tim_duncan_fan]

Tom Orsborn‬
‪@tomorsborn.bsky.social‬
· 2min
Mitch Johnson celebrates the Spurs landing the No. 2 pick with 1-year-old Jameson: “It’s a deep draft, a lot of dynamic, versatile players…with the number two, you get a little bit more of the pick of the litter.”

This is a fantastic point. You don't pick Cooper with the #1 and people are out to murder you. With #2 you can pick who you want.

[spursistan]

JFC the Texas triangle is going to be a nightmare for the rest of the league with Flagg in Dallas
I think you guys should stop overrating Flagg as Lebron/Wemby level of prospect :lol...I am not all mad or scared of losing out on souped-up Andrey Kirilenko or Tatum archetype prospect..

[Mr. Body]

Gut reaction: Spurs will trade down to 4-5, pick up an asset, still get their guy, and hope for a serviceable big at 14.

I'm feeling this.

[exstatic]

Trade #2 and scrub brush to the Pels for TMIII? I know one other SpursTalk aficionado who who be into this move.

Our options are incredible.

Fuck that.

[Mr. Body]

I think you guys should stop overrating Flagg as Lebron/Wemby level of prospect :lol...I am not all mad or scared of losing out on souped-up Andrey Kirilenko or Tatum archetype prospect..

Agree with this mostly. Flagg isn't going to be a number one option, I don't think, but is going to be an extremely good second or third guy and one of the best SF-types in the league. He's the heavy duty utility guy any team needs and would be brutal playing off Wemby.

[djohn2oo8]

I think you guys should stop overrating Flagg as Lebron/Wemby level of prospect :lol...I am not all mad or scared of losing out on souped-up Andrey Kirilenko or Tatum archetype prospect..
Flagg is gonna be good man. And be real. Wemby is not a LeBron level of anything. Nobody is.

[vy65]

#2 for #7 and TMIII anyone?

Yes please

[scott]

Trade #2 and scrub brush to the Pels for TMIII? I know one other SpursTalk aficionado who who be into this move.

Our options are incredible.

That's me! You just beat me to this idea... I'll have to study Harper more because I was not planning on moving up to #2... but TMIII was the first guy that came to mind.

[$pursDynasty]

6) Swap 2 for 4 with NOP for the MIL picks they own. Regardless of what SAS does those have become gold.

IF they throw Herb Jones in as well

[scott]

Still need to look at more Harper film... but here is my initial thought...

Really Wish NOP wouldn't have fallen this far back. If they would have been around 2-5, we could have done this and still gotten one of Tre or VJ to replace Vassell.

But do this... take Kon at 7, Sorber at #14?

https://i.imgur.com/SNNmfAF.jpeg

[Arguendo]

My 0.4% wasn't 0.4% after all, three top4 teams moved down.
The thing I'm most annoyed about is that Mavs swap goes from an amazing asset to mediocre.
Since they got Flagg, I'd offer them their swap back in exchange for PJ Washington, tbh.

I guess workouts will decide Harper's fate.
Bailey seems like a much better fit, it's time for Spurs scouting department to earn their paychecks.

I don't think a trade for Giannis happens. Maybe Nico is retarded enough to do it.
Great point, that swap was a fantastic asset after Luka/before Flagg. PJ made lots of sense for them to keep & play 3 +insurance for AD/Lively before Flagg, now he's an expiring they prolly can't afford to resign, not many minutes with Flagg/AD/Lively/Gaff.
And Flagg's #1 $$$ puts them over the 2nd Apron, or just under it if they waive Brandon Williams but then 2 roster spots to fill.
Did the numbers before, think it was Sochan + Wes or Bran + scraps would work $$$ wise, just plus the swap cancel is probably enough and a win/win.

[LeBowen]

That's me! You just beat me to this idea... I'll have to study Harper more because I was not planning on moving up to #2... but TMIII was the first guy that came to mind.

Why not dream even bigger? Value Harper higher.
#2, Devin, Jeremy for #7, Murphy, Herb.
#14, Keldon, Wesley for John Collins.
Sign veterans for backup PG and C positions.
55W team right there without depleting the warchest.

[poopbox]

Flagg gives DAL the luxury to win now and win later. I think that pick is locked.

Harper feels a lot like Castle - 6’6” guard with strength, handles, craftiness, and doesn’t thrive through jump shots.

Definitely will study up more on Harper, but Giannis for the next 5-8 years is quite tempting.

Giannis body is going to break down before then.

I'd just draft Bailey and start him at the 4 day one. Perfect fit with Wemby and gives the Spurs THE frontcourt of the future in the nba. Can't pass that up.

[T Park]

waste trading the second pick for Trey Murphy and another lottery ticket?

Fuck that. Time to go big game hunting.

[T Park]

Giannis body is going to break down before then.

I'd just draft Bailey and start him at the 4 day one. Perfect fit with Wemby and gives the Spurs THE frontcourt of the future in the nba. Can't pass that up.

people are snorting paint chips.

[td4mvp2k]

bailey has big bust potential imo

[Gibbz]

Still need to look at more Harper film... but here is my initial thought...

Really Wish NOP wouldn't have fallen this far back. If they would have been around 2-5, we could have done this and still gotten one of Tre or VJ to replace Vassell.

But do this... take Kon at 7, Sorber at #14?



If we move off Dylan Harper for TMIII and an unathletic 6-5 cracker from Duke I am gonna snap.

[Dejounte]

Ace bailey the guy who’s allergic going to the rim and only measured at 6’7”? Lmao people want this good fortune to go downhill fast.

[scott]

Don't know how to get the source link for this video...

but here is video of Brian Wright in the lotto drawing room, reacting to getting the #2 pick (keep in mind, they do these in 1 to 4 order, not the 14 to 1 order shown on TV). Interesting that the Rockets representative fist bumped Brian, they must have a good relationship?

https://www.reddit.com/r/NBASpurs/comments/1kl89yt/gm_brian_wright_reaction_cam_to_winning_the_2/

[rascal]

If we move off Dylan Harper for TMIII and an unathletic 6-5 cracker from Duke I am gonna snap.

I don't think the Spurs are that stupid.

[baseline bum]

I think you guys should stop overrating Flagg as Lebron/Wemby level of prospect :lol...I am not all mad or scared of losing out on souped-up Andrey Kirilenko or Tatum archetype prospect..

No one is saying he's a LeBron / Wemby level prospect. He's more of an Anthony Davis / Kevin Durant level prospect.

[Uriel]

PG: Fox
SG: Castle
SF: Vassell
PF: Antetokounmpo
C: Wembanyama

:lobt:

[spursistan]

No one is saying he's a LeBron / Wemby level prospect. He's more of an Anthony Davis / Kevin Durant level prospect.
Not convinced he is at their level either.. Let's face it, every high-end white American prospect will garner more hype than he should for obvious reasons :lol.

[4lifecowboy]

Don't overthink take Harper @2

[mudyez]

Well after watching some more Harper tape, I'm ready to just draft him. He give us a chance to go ROTY threepeat.

[Ice009]

Ace bailey the guy who’s allergic going to the rim and only measured at 6’7”? Lmao people want this good fortune to go downhill fast.

I was just about to ask how tall he is. Is he really 6'7"? If so, no thanks. I'll take Dylan Harper.

[Dejounte]

I was just about to ask how tall he is. Is he really 6'7"? If so, no thanks. I'll take Dylan Harper.

https://x.com/draftexpress/status/1922019889587355965?s=46

[jjspur]

Well that's precisely how the NBA is trying to discourage tanking, by flattening the odds of winning across the bottom teams. Tanking isn't *supposed* to be a winning strategy. So any team relying on tanking is stupid in the first place.

It's not "rigged," it's basic fucking probability. Anything greater than 0 probability has a real world chance of occurring.

I agree. Tanking isn't supposed to be a winning strategy, yet many teams still do it. Much like the NBA acted when teams were trading multiple first round picks in a row, the league should somehow regulate how many times you can finish with a bottom five record just to acquire cheap talent. Maybe after 3 bottom 5 records the team can not draft higher than 7th. That might discourage obvious tanking. I understand some team will finish last but bottom line, tanking isn't good for the game. Thats a sure way to lose fans.

[TekXX]

They seriously need to take best available, i don't trust Wright to draft a good "project", he's proven he doesn't have an eye for talent.

[Gibbz]

Let's face it, every high-end white American prospect will garner more hype than he should for obvious reasons :lol.

This ain't that. Dude was the best college player in the nation as a 17-YO.

[PhantomDashCam]

This Franchise…Extremely blessed.
Going to be an incredible draft night.
The Fox trade showed the Spurs were willing to push in some chips to look at winning now.
Ironically, the BPA is a guy who may ultimately have a better career than him.
Huge burden of responsibility to get this pick right.
Pumped to see what we do.

[Ice009]

Flagg is gonna be good man. And be real. Wemby is not a LeBron level of anything. Nobody is.

Victor is already a better defender than Lebron ever even dreamed of being. What is Lebron the best at? Nothing. He's not better than any of the greatest at a single category skill wise. Sure, he's got longevity and the scoring lead, but skill wise, he's not the best in any single category.
By that I mean, Curry's a better shooter, Jordan's a better scorer/clutch player, Bird is a better shooter, Magic's a better passer, Tim is better at making his teammates better. What skill in basketball is Lebron actually the best at? Lebron does a lot of things well and that is why he's great. I just take exception to you saying nobody is Lebron level anything.

Victor could end up the greatest defender of all time, and that's just for a start. Still need to see how he develops on offense, but with his toolkit, he could end up being great there too.

[heyheymymy]

Yeah that Rockets good sportsmanship is a real nice gesture. Can't get in the habit of saying kind things about HOU but the new look vibe is admirable, damnit

[Ice009]

Also, I am not 100% Cooper will be a superstar player like Luka, Lebron, Jokic, Giannis, Shai, those types, but darn, how can people not see what he did at Duke at such a young age? Even if he doesn't reach outright superstar level, he's going to be very, very, very good. At worst, the number 2 option on a Championship level team IMO. Duke could have easily won it all, so that should tell you how good he was. Even crazier due to his age.

[SpursFan86]

https://bbs.clutchfans.net/threads/2025-nba-draft-lottery-thread-rockets-get-10-pick.326400/page-10

Start on page 10 if you’re looking for some nice reading on the shitter or while going to bed :lmao

[baseline bum]

Not convinced he is at their level either.. Let's face it, every high-end white American prospect will garner more hype than he should for obvious reasons :lol.

Dude had a 30.4 PER as someone who should have been in high school and completely fixed the one hole in his game coming into the season: namely, three point shooting. He's one of the most complete prospects I have seen and he's a pretty high end defender. Not Anthony Davis nor Wemby level but All NBA Defense level I expect. I don't think he's the slightest bit overhyped. If he wasn't white no one would compare him to Kirilenko.

[baseline bum]

#2 for #7 and TMIII anyone?

No, I need another unprotected first minimum.

[DAF86]

Fuck, I just found out. Didn't know the lottery was today. We're so blessed sons. :lol

[Uriel]

Also, I am not 100% Cooper will be a superstar player like Luka, Lebron, Jokic, Giannis, Shai, those types, but darn, how can people not see what he did at Duke at such a young age? Even if he doesn't reach outright superstar level, he's going to be very, very, very good. At worst, the number 2 option on a Championship level team IMO. Duke could have easily won it all, so that should tell you how good he was. Even crazier due to his age.
Exactly. Can't believe people on this board are questioning how good Flagg is.

While I'm absolutely ecstatic we got the #2 pick, Flagg would definitely have been a game changer and guaranteed a dynastic run for our team for a decade and a half.

[Uriel]

FWIW, the Spurs' chances of getting at least the #1, #4, and #2 picks in the past 3 years given their pre-draft lottery odds was 0.7%.

[Ice009]

Fuck, I just found out. Didn't know the lottery was today. We're so blessed sons. :lol

It was insane watching it live. I stayed up as it was 7am here when the draft started. When the Spurs got into the top 4, I was super hyped, but then when it got down to the top 2, I felt kind of devastated coming that close to getting the number 1 pick. Before the draft, I would have been ecstatic with that, but when it all came down live, I thought we had it as I knew Dallas had the lesser chance, I really thought the Spurs had it. After the top 4 was announced once I knew who was in there, I didn't think Dallas would get it due to it looking too much like a fix. I was surprised they got into the top 4 even. I thought Dallas was going to be 4th or 3rd. Spurs had great, great luck, but Dallas had crazy luck to get that first pick if it wasn't somehow a fix :(.

By the way, I was going to mention it, but Cooper did not look happy. I really do think when it came down to the last two slots (Spurs and Mavericks), he wanted the Spurs, I am sure of it. I did not see any excitement from him at all :(.

[Brazil]

I had a dream last night....We got 2nd and 14th. :flag:

If we get the #1 pick there will be riots lol

wtf

[tbdog]

Dylan Harper 2025 NBA Draft Scouting Report
Position: Combo Guard (PG/SG)
Height/Weight: 6'6", 215 lbs
College: Rutgers (Freshman)
2024-25 Stats (Projected): 19.4 points, 4.6 rebounds, 4.0 assists, 1.4 steals per game
Shooting Splits: 48% FG, 33% 3PT, 75% FT

Strengths
Elite Rim Attacker: Harper is one of the best in his class at getting to the basket, using his size and strength to finish through contact. He’s a constant threat in the paint and can score against almost any defender.

Advanced Playmaking: He’s comfortable running the offense, showing impressive vision and the ability to set up teammates, especially in pick-and-roll situations and transition.

Physical Presence: At 6'6" with a strong build, Harper is physically imposing for a guard. He uses his body well to shield defenders and finish strong around the rim.

Versatility: He can play both guard spots, functioning as a lead ball-handler or working off the ball to attack closeouts and make smart cuts.

Basketball IQ: Harper plays with poise and makes good decisions, rarely forcing the issue. He’s a natural leader and the clear focal point of his team’s offense.

NBA Background: With a father who played in the NBA, Harper brings a mature understanding of the game and what it takes to succeed at the next level.

Areas for Improvement
Jump Shooting: While he has made progress, Harper’s outside shot is still developing. He needs to become more consistent from three-point range, especially off the dribble.

Defensive Consistency: He has the tools to be a strong defender but sometimes loses focus or effort on that end. More consistent intensity will be important in the NBA.

Athleticism: Harper is more crafty and strong than explosively athletic. He relies on skill and timing rather than elite quickness or leaping ability.

Ball Dominance: He’s most comfortable with the ball in his hands, so he may need to adjust his game depending on his NBA team’s roster and style.

Upside and NBA Player Comparison
Harper projects as a high-level starting guard with the potential to become an All-Star if his shooting and defense continue to improve. His size, playmaking, and ability to pressure the rim make him a candidate to be a primary creator for an NBA offense. If his jumper becomes reliable, he could develop into one of the league’s most versatile and impactful guards.

NBA Player Comparisons:

Cade Cunningham: Similar in size and playmaking ability, with a calm approach to running the offense.

Jalen Brunson: Shares Harper’s ability to create shots for himself and others, as well as his leadership qualities.

Young James Harden: Both are left-handed guards who excel at getting downhill, finishing at the rim, and creating out of the pick-and-roll. Harper isn’t quite the passer Harden became, but he shows flashes of that style.

[Manu20]

wtf

Lol now I just need to dream of the power ball numbers…lol

[heyheymymy]

Mavs have now covered for 2 recent Spurs heists lol

Fox deal overshadowed by Luka trade and getting #2 after repeat ROYs upstaged by Mavs 1.8% #1 odds hitting suspiciously

Spurs keep getting pretty lucky while the Mavs take all the heat in the scene and media lol

[Ice009]

I had a dream last night....We got 2nd and 14th. :flag:

If we get the #1 pick there will be riots lol

Wow man, big props. That's scary. You might want to start telling us your Bball related dreams from now on.

[spursistan]

No, I need another unprotected first minimum.
Not trading Harper for anyone but Giannis..Spurs can cobble together package for role players/starters that likely involves vassell/sochan/KJ + (14, Hawks '26+27, Mavs (less valuable now) and Sacto swaps)..

[Arguendo]

I think you guys should stop overrating Flagg as Lebron/Wemby level of prospect :lol...I am not all mad or scared of losing out on souped-up Andrey Kirilenko or Tatum archetype prospect..
Wow...I guess this comes down to what you mean by "achetype prospect" but their still not close to the same.
Tatum was the #3 overall, Kirilenko was 24th. Like they're 6'9"ish forwards, but same archetype? How?

And if they are, that Tatum archetype that goes 28/8.5/4.5/1 with about to be 4 straight Top6 MVP finishes and NBA1, and 6 straight AS, 5 All-NBA in 6 yrs is a pretty fucking good archetype in todays NBA. Kirilenko was a D freak, but #3/4 option on O. Tatum is and has been a consensus Top5 player. Apples to oranges as evidenced by every aspect of their careers and their draft position.

Flagg is a great prospect and he was significantly better at everything at Duke than Tatum and he was like 15 months younger when doing it. Flagg played the first 1/3 of his season as a 17y/o. He may be close to a Kirilenko archetype on D, he's a Tatum archetype on O. Not the same and he's crazy young, and polished, and complete game, and maybe still fucking growing. Kirilenko archetype he is not.

[Brazil]

Lol now I just need to dream of the power ball numbers…lol

:lol

[Arguendo]

Dylan Harper 2025 NBA Draft Scouting Report
Upside and NBA Player Comparison
Harper projects as a high-level starting guard with the potential to become an All-Star if his shooting and defense continue to improve. His size, playmaking, and ability to pressure the rim make him a candidate to be a primary creator for an NBA offense. If his jumper becomes reliable, he could develop into one of the league’s most versatile and impactful guards.

NBA Player Comparisons:
Cade Cunningham: Similar in size and playmaking ability, with a calm approach to running the offense.
Jalen Brunson: Shares Harper’s ability to create shots for himself and others, as well as his leadership qualities.
Young James Harden: Both are left-handed guards who excel at getting downhill, finishing at the rim, and creating out of the pick-and-roll. Harper isn’t quite the passer Harden became, but he shows flashes of that style.

Those are some exciting comps, I hadn't really looked into Harper at all, didn't even dream of the #2!!!!

But with Fox, Castle, Vassell and Harper if we keep #2 a trade makes a lot of sense. Castle's value may never be higher and him plus Vassell get you a long way towards a Max salary ($36.5M combined)...this offseason is gonna be awesome.
Personally I'd love a Fox + Vassell and picks for Giannis, go supersized 5 man rotation. Not the Spurs way, but one can dream.

[SupremeGuy]

Well after watching some more Harper tape, I'm ready to just draft him. He give us a chance to go ROTY threepeat.:rollin

[scott]

PG: Fox
SG: Castle
SF: Vassell
PF: Antetokounmpo
C: Wembanyama

:lobt:

Watching Devin Vassell dribble the ball for 20 seconds to work himself into a contested 20 foot fadeaway with the rest of those guys on the court around him... IN THE PLAYOFFS... is going to be so much fun.

[Das Texan]

Watching Devin Vassell dribble the ball for 20 seconds to work himself into a contested 20 foot fadeaway with the rest of those guys on the court around him... IN THE PLAYOFFS... is going to be so much fun.

I think I'd almost prefer an aneurysm over seeing Vassell fucking around in a Spurs uniform in the playoffs next season tbh. Definitely would take herpes in the ass over Vassell chunking it up for the Spurs.

[poopbox]

Ace bailey the guy who’s allergic going to the rim and only measured at 6’7”? Lmao people want this good fortune to go downhill fast.

You know who else measured at 6 "7"? Cooper Flagg.

[BatManu20]

Draft lottery is 100% rigged btw. I was already pretty skeptical, but this year definitely sealed it. There's just no way that Dallas just happened to jump up 10 spots to the #1 Overall Pick with their 1.8% chance the same year that they inexplicably traded their 25 yearly Superstar franchise player to the NBA's biggest market for pennies on the dollar in probably the worst trade in NBA history. No way.

Same way Cavs got the #1 Pick the year their hometown hero Lebron was in the draft despite only having a 2% chance.

Same way Chicago got the top pick with only a 1.8% chance the year the hometown kid Derrick Rose came out.

Same way the Cavs got the #1 Overall pick the year LeBron abandoned them for Miami.

Same way the Pelicans got the #1 Overall Pick the year A.D. was forcefully traded to the Lakers.

The NBA = Sports entertainment. Hilarious how obvious it is now though.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

We’re so lucky!

Flagg can do the funniest thing lol he looked so pissed off when they revealed it’d be Mavs over Spurs. He wanted to play with Wemby, make no mistake. Obviously these things rarely happen but dude died a little inside on live tv.

As for 2. Take Harper and don’t even consider overthinking it unless it can be used in a Giannis trade. He’s so good, he gets anywhere he wants on the court, can finish super well, can shoot (% is misleading due to tons of step backs and horrible spacing on the team). Just a perfect player for today’s NBA. Sure there’s overlap but nowadays teams need multiple ballhandlers and besides Castle has shown he can play the Butler role as a wing. Down the road an enormous backcourt of Castle and Harper will be a nightmare for any team to match up with.

[Ice009]

Draft lottery is 100% rigged btw. I was already pretty skeptical, but this year definitely sealed it. There's just no way that Dallas just happened to jump up 10 spots to the #1 Overall Pick with their 1.8% chance the same year that they inexplicably traded their 25 yearly Superstar franchise player to the NBA's biggest market for pennies on the dollar in probably the worst trade in NBA history. No way.

Same way Cavs got the #1 Pick the year their hometown hero Lebron was in the draft despite only having a 2% chance.

Same way Chicago got the top pick with only a 1.8% chance the year the hometown kid Derrick Rose came out.

Same way the Cavs got the #1 Overall pick the year LeBron abandoned them for Miami.

Same way the Pelicans got the #1 Overall Pick the year A.D. was forcefully traded to the Lakers.

The NBA = Sports entertainment. Hilarious how obvious it is now though.

Darn, I never followed those drafts at all as I was more focused on the Spurs winning it at all rather than the lottery or the teams in it.

[spurraider21]

No, I need another unprotected first minimum.
2 and Evan for 7, Murphy, Herb Jones

[Teamduncan21]

Draft lottery is 100% rigged btw. I was already pretty skeptical, but this year definitely sealed it. There's just no way that Dallas just happened to jump up 10 spots to the #1 Overall Pick with their 1.8% chance the same year that they inexplicably traded their 25 yearly Superstar franchise player to the NBA's biggest market for pennies on the dollar in probably the worst trade in NBA history. No way.

Same way Cavs got the #1 Pick the year their hometown hero Lebron was in the draft despite only having a 2% chance.

Same way Chicago got the top pick with only a 1.8% chance the year the hometown kid Derrick Rose came out.

Same way the Cavs got the #1 Overall pick the year LeBron abandoned them for Miami.

Same way the Pelicans got the #1 Overall Pick the year A.D. was forcefully traded to the Lakers.

The NBA = Sports entertainment. Hilarious how obvious it is now though.


Don't forget wolves getting first after trading Kevin love. Somehow if you're involved in helping lebron you get first pick

[Ice009]

Don't forget wolves getting first after trading Kevin love. Somehow if you're involved in helping lebron you get first pick

What percentage chance did the Wolves have to get the number 1 pick that year?

Also, anyone know what percentage chance the Spurs had of getting the number 1 pick in 1997/98?

[Robz4000]

#2 for Jaylen Brown?

[Teamduncan21]

What percentage chance did the Wolves have to get the number 1 pick that year?

Also, anyone know what percentage chance the Spurs had of getting the number 1 pick in 1997/98?

To be fair they have the best odds. Its just a repeated pattern of giving stuff to lebron. Wins lottery

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Conspiracy theorists with a ton of material right now but the biggest winner in all this is going to be Nico because people will no longer think he’s a complete idiot. They’ll think he’s a mastermind for pulling off a good trade by sending Luka for AD and Flagg.

[Robz4000]

Conspiracy theorists with a ton of material right now but the biggest winner in all this is going to be Nico because people will no longer think he’s a complete idiot. They’ll think he’s a mastermind for pulling off a good trade by sending Luka for AD and Flagg.

Never thought he was an idiot myself tbh, especially considering the moves he made the past few seasons. The Luka trade always smelled rigged and the Mavs jumping up to #1 seals it.

[spurraider21]

#2 for Jaylen Brown?
if its confirmed that Tatum tore his achilles (seems likely) then yeah it could be a year for boston to start moving money. move brown somewhere, move holiday elsewhere... at the same time, by the time the 26-27 season starts and Tatum is back, White will be 32, KP will be 31, Horford will probably be retired at 40.

now if they spend that year to develop Harper, and get something reasonable back for Holiday, you could be looking at Harper/White/Tatum/(piece from Jrue Trade)/KP and still be in a good position

[spurraider21]

Never thought he was an idiot myself tbh, especially considering the moves he made the past few seasons. The Luka trade always smelled rigged and the Mavs jumping up to #1 seals it.
honestly i dont know how you can rig the current version of the NBA lotto considering its on video, you have reps from every team there, and even some media folk who sit around in the room.

i think Nico was instructed by ownership to trade Luka, not by the league

[Robz4000]

honestly i dont know how you can rig the current version of the NBA lotto considering its on video, you have reps from every team there, and even some media folk who sit around in the room.

i think Nico was instructed by ownership to trade Luka, not by the league

Thought it was both with the end result being the Mavs moving to Vegas (Adelsons get their casino arena and the league gets a new face for their marquee franchise).

[spurraider21]

i wouldnt know how to really explain how to rig this setup considering how many people are in the room (including some media)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCxgXS7EBI0

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Never thought he was an idiot myself tbh, especially considering the moves he made the past few seasons. The Luka trade always smelled rigged and the Mavs jumping up to #1 seals it.

I’ve never been into these conspiracies and still don’t think it was but I just can’t argue at the moment :lol I was thinking if they’re going to rig something it would be to rig it against Dallas because the optics are horrible right now.

[Ice009]

To be fair they have the best odds. Its just a repeated pattern of giving stuff to lebron. Wins lottery

Wolves had the best odds that year? If so, that one doesn't seem that bad then. All those other ones that BatManu listed, though, amaze me how those teams won the first pick in those situations. The Dallas one this year should be added to that list.

[scott]

Lots of folks have commented on how Cooper didn’t look too happy when Dallas got #1…

He (and the whole world) just saw Nico cost Luka over $100MM by trading him away right before he was eligible for a SuperMax extension… so yeah, I think players are going to be a little apprehensive about the Mavericks.

[heyheymymy]

Wait, wasn't Fox going to take #2 jersey and then they switched to #4?

Harper destiny was long foretold? Spurs have the crystal ball.

[pookenstein]

I have to admit, I got greedy after Charlotte and Philly went #3 and #4 and I my first reaction was disappointment. But holy fuck boys and girls, #2 is awesome. I have a gut feeling we'll trade #2, #14, 2027 Atlanta, and the swap rights for 2030 and 2031 plus Vassell and Sochan for Giannis.

[Ice009]

I have to admit, I got greedy after Charlotte and Philly went #3 and #4 and I my first reaction was disappointment. But holy fuck boys and girls, #2 is awesome. I have a gut feeling we'll trade #2, #14, 2027 Atlanta, and the swap rights for 2030 and 2031 plus Vassell and Sochan for Giannis.

Same here, felt devastated for a few minutes there coming so close, but that is only because when it came down to the last two picks, I saw it was Dallas and I knew the Spurs had a higher percentage chance at the number 1 over Dallas, so I thought at that point we had it. If the Spurs were going against Utah, Washington, Philadelphia or Charlotte for pick 1 and 2, I wouldn't have gotten as excited as I would have known they had a higher percentage chance at it. It's just that it came down to Spurs and Mavs, so I got real excited thinking the Spurs had the better chance. I really thought we had it. I should have been super happy with the number two, but in that moment, didn't feel that way.

[Raven]

Conspiracy theorists with a ton of material right now but the biggest winner in all this is going to be Nico because people will no longer think he’s a complete idiot. They’ll think he’s a mastermind for pulling off a good trade by sending Luka for AD and Flagg.

It doesn't stand to scrutiny though, as a core of irving, flagg and ad probably ends in the lottery next year because of injuries and they need to rebuild the year after since most players will need resigning. The guy simply though Irving and AD would carry the load for him and didn't like Donut not respecting his achievements, he'd get a title and f off in the sunset or sign a multi year deal to cash in during the tank. There is no need to overthink.

[Raven]

Never thought he was an idiot myself tbh, especially considering the moves he made the past few seasons. The Luka trade always smelled rigged and the Mavs jumping up to #1 seals it.

he actually has maybe the nastiest record out of any GM tbh.. From Brunson on, the list is really long.

[Raven]

Same here, felt devastated for a few minutes there coming so close, but that is only because when it came down to the last two picks, I saw it was Dallas and I knew the Spurs had a higher percentage chance at the number 1 over Dallas, so I thought at that point we had it. If the Spurs were going against Utah, Washington, Philadelphia or Charlotte for pick 1 and 2, I wouldn't have gotten as excited as I would have known they had a higher percentage chance at it. It's just that it came down to Spurs and Mavs, so I got real excited thinking the Spurs had the better chance. I really thought we had it. I should have been super happy with the number two, but in that moment, didn't feel that way.

you had to readjust your odds based on the knowledge that dallas already had been picked for something.. so it wasn't 1% anymore.

[Robz4000]

he actually has maybe the nastiest record out of any GM tbh.. From Brunson on, the list is really long.

Gafford, Washington, Lively, and Kyrie all ended up being amazing moves/picks tbh. No one saw Brunson turning into a superstar. Grant Williams was a horrible move though.

[TVI]

3 and 14...

Charlotte gets #1 and Flagg refuses to go and we trade those picks + future Atl pick for Flagg.

damn close.

[slick'81]

Holy shit just heard!! #2 for the spurs :smokin

[Raven]

Gafford, Washington, Lively, and Kyrie all ended up being amazing moves/picks tbh. No one saw Brunson turning into a superstar. Grant Williams was a horrible move though.

they missed the playoffs two out of their last 3 years mostly because of kyrie. Lively and Gafford were only players with Donut feeding them, washington as well has already shown he's just a role player, they also lost derrick jones despite talking about how d wins championships.. I guess they duped klay, so that has to gain some points as a gm... eh, they aren't going anywhere.

[Robz4000]

they missed the playoffs two out of their last 3 years mostly because of kyrie. Lively and Gafford were only players with Donut feeding them, washington as well has already shown he's just a role player, they also lost derrick jones despite talking about how d wins championships.. I guess they duped klay, so that has to gain some points as a gm... eh, they aren't going anywhere.

Obviously those moves were made with Doncic in mind. They tanked in '23 and this past season was historically confusing. Agreed they aren't going anywhere with Street Clothes and Kyrie being dead, but those moves turned them into a legitimate contender.

[John B]

Got 2/14 when I did my "one roll"

Hope I didn't use up all the mojo

Pretty good prediction.

[slick'81]

Welcome to sa dylan harper

[Robz4000]

Would CP3 go to the Mavs?

[lefty20]

Would CP3 go to the Mavs?

Why not? Role/playing time seems to be his priority.

Kyrie ain't coming back till late Feb/early March at the earliest. And he will likely be on minutes restriction as a 34yr old coming back form ACL.

CP3 would get to run the show on a team with 4 excellent lob threats for a majority of the regular season.

[LeBowen]

Since Nico is probably still on the win now timeline, maybe we could entice them by taking on Kyrie's contract? Would take out out of serious contention in the upcoming season, but it will be an expiring $44M deal.
Mavs don't have the assets to move it elsewhere and even though they got Flagg, I don't think a rookie moves the needle for them. AD will be 33 when next season's playoffs start and they don't have a single point guard on the roster.

#2, Devin, Barnes, '30 swap returned '27 ATL for #1, Kyrie

They get their point guard of the future, two very good picks and two easily moveable contracts.
Don't forget that Flagg is a New Balance guy and Nico is a former Nike executive. Harper is also Nike.

[Robz4000]

Why not? Role/playing time seems to be his priority.

Kyrie ain't coming back till late Feb/early March at the earliest. And he will likely be on minutes restriction as a 34yr old coming back form ACL.

CP3 would get to run the show on a team with 4 excellent lob threats for a majority of the regular season.

Could be a worrisome proposition for the Spurs next season (and possibly beyond). Mavs should be in the same tier as the Spurs next season assuming they keep Flagg and Street Clothes stays mostly healthy. Would suck to miss the postseason due to them :lol

[TVI]

I guess getting Harper really cements that CP3 is done in San Antonio.

[Uriel]

Lots of folks have commented on how Cooper didn’t look too happy when Dallas got #1…

He (and the whole world) just saw Nico cost Luka over $100MM by trading him away right before he was eligible for a SuperMax extension… so yeah, I think players are going to be a little apprehensive about the Mavericks.
I think his disappointment stemmed more from the fact that he wouldn't be able to play with Wemby.

[lefty20]

Could be a worrisome proposition for the Spurs next season (and possibly beyond). Mavs should be in the same tier as the Spurs next season assuming they keep Flagg and Street Clothes stays mostly healthy. Would suck to miss the postseason due to them :lol

Yeah, West will remain an absolute bloodbath for the foreseeable future. Nothing will be guaranteed for the Spurs, or anyone else except OKC perhaps.

Jazz might be the only team tanking outright. Unless Phoenix decides to make a deal with Houston to get their picks back.

[ambchang]

Lots of folks have commented on how Cooper didn’t look too happy when Dallas got #1…

He (and the whole world) just saw Nico cost Luka over $100MM by trading him away right before he was eligible for a SuperMax extension… so yeah, I think players are going to be a little apprehensive about the Mavericks.

Not to mention all the rumours about the trainers messing up recovery schedules leading to injuries. Not getting a contract at all due to injuries is even worse.

[Mal]

Jazz might be the only team tanking outright. Unless Phoenix decides to make a deal with Houston to get their picks back.

Rockets could use Booker. Then you trade Durant to whatever, and Beal is your tank commander

[exstatic]

Conspiracy theorists with a ton of material right now but the biggest winner in all this is going to be Nico because people will no longer think he’s a complete idiot. They’ll think he’s a mastermind for pulling off a good trade by sending Luka for AD and Flagg.

Getting lucky AF doesn’t mean you’re not an idiot. Rational people will still think so.

[Rocalcio]

#2 + #14 + 27ATL + Vassell + Keldon to PHX for Booker.

Way too much !

[Rocalcio]

Actually I’m ok with not getting Flagg. We have Wemby as our franchise player, we don’t need another top level prospect who will want to be the best player in his team. Landing the second pick is the best scenario.

[Seventyniner]

OQV9KIxiVjo

:lol the bottom three teams in the rankings got the top 3 picks

[CorrectCrusader]

Rockets could use Booker. Then you trade Durant to whatever, and Beal is your tank commander

I think booker gets shipped to Detroit

[Blizzardwizard]

zach lowe confirmed on his show that the spurs had the best chance of winning the lottery after the first three balls were drawn (10, 14, 11)


possible final ball outcomes:

1 - wizards
2 - pelicans
3 - nets
4 - raptors
5 - spurs
6 - portland
7 - mavericks
8 - bulls
9 - kings
12 - spurs
13 - spurs


damn :lol


kind of a reverse wemby situation when spurs had a 1/11 chance after the first three balls drawn and the wizards had a 6/11 chance only to miss out on the top four entirely

[Seventyniner]

zach lowe confirmed on his show that the spurs had the best chance of winning the lottery after the first three balls were drawn (10, 14, 11)


possible final ball outcomes:

1 - wizards
2 - pelicans
3 - nets
4 - raptors
5 - spurs
6 - portland
7 - mavericks
8 - bulls
9 - kings
12 - spurs
13 - spurs


damn :lol


kind of a reverse wemby situation when spurs had a 1/11 chance after the first three balls drawn and the wizards had a 6/11 chance only to miss out on the top four entirely

If 12 or 13 was the final ball, it would have been the Hawks slot that got the #1 pick. The Spurs would still have the #8 slot and around a 20% for their own pick to jump into the top 4.

[TD 21]

Not trading Harper for anyone but Giannis..Spurs can cobble together package for role players/starters that likely involves vassell/sochan/KJ + (14, Hawks '26+27, Mavs (less valuable now) and Sacto swaps)..

For reasons I've said in the past, I just don't see Antetokounmpo happening.

My early read is, by order of most likely is: 1) Staying put and selecting Harper Jr., 2) Sliding down to 3 and selecting Edgecombe if they can get the 76ers to part with the Clippers unprotected '28 1st, 3) Sliding down to 5 to acquire Markkanen, with Vassell and Johnson included.

White and Murphy III will probably be popular targets, but the former is too old and the latter is too injury prone.

[cd98]

It's kind of funny because the Mavs really need a player like Harper and the Spurs really need a player like Flagg.

[heyheymymy]

So not only does Dallas defy odds suspiciously to get #1 but it was San Antonio who had the best odds left to land #1 otherwise?

[Dejounte]

For reasons I've said in the past, I just don't see Antetokounmpo happening.

My early read is, by order of most likely is: 1) Staying put and selecting Harper Jr., 2) Sliding down to 3 and selecting Edgecombe if they can get the 76ers to part with the Clippers unprotected '28 1st, 3) Sliding down to 5 to acquire Markkanen, with Vassell and Johnson included.

White and Murphy III will probably be popular targets, but the former is too old and the latter is too injury prone.
I like option 3

Fox
Kon
Castle
Markkanen
Wemby