Flagg can force his way to Spurs like Sarr did last year

[SpursGenius]

Sarr's agent wanted Wizards because no max contracts on Wizards. Hawks were going to possibly have more max contracts and less money was the argument. Spurs money situation way better than Mavs. Two max contracts. Mavs Team owners have eye on Vegas. Was it me or Flagg didnt look too thrilled when Mavs got pick. Wemby was laughing up a storm when Spurs got him. Flagg not a smile.

[PopTheGOAT]

Not happening, let it go

[lefty20]

It's time to put down the hopium and start rosterbating while watching Harper highlight vids like a normal functional fanatic.

[venitian navigator]

ok it could be a pipe dream...
But just for the sake of dreaming but not that dreaming....let's try to rationalize the situation.
Dallas is in a absolutely win now mode and for win now mode its clear the goal was and necessarly still is winning this year or next (too many big old names like A Davis, Thompson and already proven players like Gafford, PJ Washington)....then the window is definitively closed.
KY is out for all next season and lets talk frankly....his game is based on a maximum stress of his ankles and knees....I see no way how a 34 years old guy will be back to his level after an achilles....for sure not in next season and proably also in 2027 He wull be limited by precautionary reabilitation rules...KY contract works for only next season (PO that will be necessarly exercised by him). Then he's gonna be a not that attractive (because of age, playing style and recent bigb time injury) UFA...probably only worth a MLE contract.
That said, its clear that no star playmaking means no way to have a chance of play offs success.
Its practically inevitable, if Dallas wants still to contend for next sesson, to replace the all star play making (Dinwiddie can't be the solution).

Not only this.
The rebulding era for Dallas starts immediately after 2027 (when Thompson and Davis will be in the wrong part of 30 years old)...with practically no good picks available for the rebuilding...

That said, their goals are imho:

1) find out an all star point guard that can replace the star point guard they were supposed to have;
2) get rid of the contract of said injured point guard contract;
3) try to acquire some picks for the future (after 2027).

Now, for point one, we have the said star point guard in Fox.
We can trade him for dead money contract of Irving for point 2.
We have some young players plus draft picks so we can add some draft picks to the package.

The big luck of drafting the number 1 choice can solve this....

So, for example, a Fox plus Wesley and Graham plus 2025 number 14, plus some other picks for Flagg plus Irving contract plus other Dallas garbage contracts could at least be considered balanced in the wiew of Dallas and SA respective goals...

Dreaming too much?

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

The big luck of drafting the number 1 choice can solve this....

So, for example, a Fox plus Wesley and Graham plus 2025 number 14, plus some other picks for Flagg plus Irving contract plus other Dallas garbage contracts could at least be considered balanced in the wiew of Dallas and SA respective goals...

Dreaming too much?

Yep. Delusional doesn’t even begin to describe it.

[spursparker9]

Seriously, I dunno how a player can still trust and wanna play for Dallas after the Luka's trade

[rankingtear]

He knows he would rot in there with an aging roster and no control of their picks.

[scottspurs]

Do we really want a guy that would force his way here this early? I don’t think he will or should. I know Fox forced his way here but we don’t know what went on behind the scenes in Sacramento. Flagg will be a Maverick! You are better off hoping Nico does something crazy like picking Harper which would actually be a better fit. I don’t even think he is dumb enough to pass on Flagg. You draft the best player when you are a lottery pick team. You draft for fit or projects when you are an established playoff team and/or contender. Get over it and be happy the Spurs have the 2nd pick

[mo7888]

Do we really want a guy that would force his way here this early? I don’t think he will or should. I know Fox forced his way here but we don’t know what went on behind the scenes in Sacramento. Flagg will be a Maverick! You are better off hoping Nico does something crazy like picking Harper which would actually be a better fit. I don’t even think he is dumb enough to pass on Flagg. You draft the best player when you are a lottery pick team. You draft for fit or projects when you are an established playoff team and/or contender. Get over it and be happy the Spurs have the 2nd pick

Yes, we want this guy if he forced his way here, but

Yes, he will be a Maverick

[Darkwaters]

I really don't want an Eli Manning type on this team. Not interested in somebody that's going to strongarm the system before he even gets to the NBA.

We got the #2 pick and probably Dylan Harper when we should be picking #8. I'm elated in that.

[Dejounte]

Say it with me. Flagg will not become a Spur. Move on.

[John B]

Mavs can always trade if they see Dylan as a better fit, and get more future picks.

[exstatic]

Seriously, I dunno how a player can still trust and wanna play for Dallas after the Luka's trade

I think that might have been 90% of Flagg’s reaction. Also,not just Luka. They lost or traded Porzingas and Brunson for nothing.

[Manu&Duncan fan]

Yes there is a slight chance.

Cooper doesn't need to force his way.

He just needs to tell Dallas nicely that he prefers not to play for them. Refuse work out for them, just like Sarr.

Then Dallas will consider trade with Spurs.

The reason is that Harper is really good. May even be better than Cooper.

[KobesAchilles]

I like this nonsensical thread. Ok now stay with me now. Spurs trade Castle Vassell KJ plus 4 future FRPs including the 14th for Giannis. We draft Harper. Then we trade Giannis plus 2 FRPs for Flagg. Now we have our big 3 of the future and they’re all young and on the same time line.

[Mr. Body]

I really don't want an Eli Manning type on this team. Not interested in somebody that's going to strongarm the system before he even gets to the NBA.

We got the #2 pick and probably Dylan Harper when we should be picking #8. I'm elated in that.

Yeah, exactly, Eli Manning only won two championships.

[spursparker9]

I like this nonsensical thread. Ok now stay with me now. Spurs trade Castle Vassell KJ plus 4 future FRPs including the 14th for Giannis. We draft Harper. Then we trade Giannis plus 2 FRPs for Flagg. Now we have our big 3 of the future and they’re all young and on the same time line.

:lol this is not nba2k

[Dverde]

Flagg would have to go back to Duke to avoid being picked by Dallas. Not sure if he can still do that or not, but he’s not giving up a #1 pick rookie contract to do that. Dallas are picking him. Flagg’s team should say he doesn’t want to play for Nico Harrison and try to force him out. The city will love him for that.

[Frenchfred]

I like this nonsensical thread. Ok now stay with me now. Spurs trade Castle Vassell KJ plus 4 future FRPs including the 14th for Giannis. We draft Harper. Then we trade Giannis plus 2 FRPs for Flagg. Now we have our big 3 of the future and they’re all young and on the same time line.

so you trade Castle +6 FRP for a rookie?

[KobesAchilles]

so you trade Castle +6 FRP for a rookie?
My own personal goal nope. But what it would take to get Flagg I believe would be this trade. And that’s the whole point of this whimsical thread.

[sfernald]

I would only trade Branham + Wesley + 2nd for Flagg. He has some red flags to me…

[baseline bum]

He has some red flags to me…

Really? What are those? High end defender who can shoot the three and looks to have an outstanding motor. He looks ridiculously well rounded and makes up for his so-so height for the PF position with a good wingspan and a 35 inch vertical.

[TekXX]

Flagg gets to go to a somewhat competitive team right off the bat and Nico gets to move off the "worst GM in history" and "totally incompetent" label, Flagg to Dallas is happening.

[exstatic]

Flagg gets to go to a somewhat competitive team right off the bat and Nico gets to move off the "worst GM in history" and "totally incompetent" label, Flagg to Dallas is happening.

Uh, just because Dallas got lucky AF doesn’t mean Nico is no longer an idiot. That the ESPN narrative that you’re parroting.

[TekXX]

Uh, just because Dallas got lucky AF doesn’t mean Nico is no longer an idiot. That the ESPN narrative that you’re parroting.

Wishful thinking on your part that he would give up this opportunity.

[ChumpDumper]

Mavs Team owners have eye on Vegas.They do not.

They do not want to bring the Mavs to Vegas.

They want to bring Vegas to the Mavs, in a manner of speaking.

[CorrectCrusader]

It's time to put down the hopium and start rosterbating while watching Harper highlight vids like a normal functional fanatic.

My youtube feed is nothing but Dylan Harper breakdowns since monday evening

[TheBallsbreakers]

HAHA

[exstatic]

Wishful thinking on your part that he would give up this opportunity.

I’m not saying he’ll trade Flagg, at least not now, just that getting lucky in the lottery doesn’t erase a string of dumb transactions. He’s still an idiot, just a lucky one.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Anything’s possible. Never thought luka could be traded in his prime but it happened. You could see it in his face, he was really disappointed that Dallas got the #1 pick

[scott]

Flagg would have to go back to Duke to avoid being picked by Dallas. Not sure if he can still do that or not, but he’s not giving up a #1 pick rookie contract to do that. Dallas are picking him. Flagg’s team should say he doesn’t want to play for Nico Harrison and try to force him out. The city will love him for that.

Now this is the big baller move that would make Flagg an instant Legend in Dallas. They might build his statute before he plays his first game.

[chubbs]

Sarr's agent wanted Wizards because no max contracts on Wizards. Hawks were going to possibly have more max contracts and less money was the argument. Spurs money situation way better than Mavs. Two max contracts. Mavs Team owners have eye on Vegas. Was it me or Flagg didnt look too thrilled when Mavs got pick. Wemby was laughing up a storm when Spurs got him. Flagg not a smile.

LMAO spurfan

[mando6599]

I say we draft Dylan Harper at #2 and see where the chips fall. I want a young core and then we can build around it with veterans wanting to win 'ships over the next 3-8 years.

[Tyrone Jenkins]

Word is that after the Luca trade, ownership reeled in some of Nico's authority. Dallas is absolutely, positively drafting Flagg. And there's NO WAY Flagg is gonna rebuke that.

[Mal]

No happening, playing it nice with Mavs is only business decision he can make

[Gibbz]

They want to bring Vegas to the Mavs, in a manner of speaking.

Correct, and that is currently failing miserably.

[ChumpDumper]

Correct, and that is currently failing miserably.
May change what is built around it but they can probably make the financials of their own arena work either way.

[dn0774]

Flagg is one of those prospects where he is essentially too good to pull this off. If he signaled to Dallas that he didn't want to be there Dallas would simply call his bluff and draft him anyway. The only reason Sarr's team was able to redirect him away from Atl is because he wasn't a consensus number 1 pick so Atl figured "fine, lets move on".

The other theoretical lever that Flagg has is going back to Duke for a season but even with NIL that would cost him a considerable amount of money due to losing a year towards his next contract. He would conceivably play 1 less year in the NBA essentially, and that missing year at the tail end could be $80-$100 million by that point in the CBA. Not to mention, if he did go to Duke there is no guarantee he would like his new landing spot would be any better next year.

I know we hate it, but he is going to be a Mav and there are much worse places he could've ended up. They at least have a legit #1 in AD, solid pieces in several positions and a coach who has had recent success as well as no state income tax. I wouldn't trust Nico/the ownership group, but I also expect Nico will be gone by the time Cooper is supermax eligible (he should be an no brainer fun max extension in 3 years).

[scott]

I'm gonna be honest... as much as I say fuck the Mavericks and our 2030 swap notwithstanding... I kind of like that they are getting Flagg. I want a healthy rivalry with the Mavs, it makes life more fun.

With that said... the NBA has probably got to start thinking about the longstanding power imbalance between the east and west. Maybe it's been long enough that they just figure no one cares... but it ain't changing any time soon.

[ChumpDumper]

The Spurs will be back in the east with the next expansion.

Or a couple other current western teams.

Problem solved.

[scott]

The Spurs will be back in the east with the next expansion.

Or a couple other current western teams.

Problem solved.

When the league goes to 32 (edited to correct), they'll have to go 8 divisions per conference (or abandon divisions which are kind of meaningless anyway, but I don't think they will)... I think SA/DAL/HOU + OKC/NO will be a group they'll want to keep together. OKC would make the most sense to me... but MEM and NO are kind of odd balls that don't fit in with the rest of the map.

Maybe they just go away from conferences all together... who knows. If it's SEA/LV as expected, the map definitely tilts heavily towards the west from a strictly geographic POV. NO/MEM/MIN seems like the most logical to go East to balance things out if they stick with conferences.

[Seventyniner]

If Seattle and Las Vegas are the two expansion cities, only one team will have to move to the East. Memphis and Minnesota are the most likely candidates.

One thing we're seeing with the flattened lottery is that teams that barely miss the playoffs in the West tend to have better records than low playoff seeds in the East. That gives those low-lottery teams like the Spurs and Mavs a chance to jump, further cementing the West's talent advantage.

I'm totally in favor of scrapping the conferences, balancing the schedule, and seeding 1-16. Maybe keep divisions to have some geographical rivalry, but it shouldn't unbalance the schedule too much.

[LeBowen]

When the league goes to 23, they'll have to go 8 divisions per conference (or abandon divisions which are kind of meaningless anyway, but I don't think they will)... I think SA/DAL/HOU + OKC/NO will be a group they'll want to keep together. OKC would make the most sense to me... but MEM and NO are kind of odd balls that don't fit in with the rest of the map.

Maybe they just go away from conferences all together... who knows. If it's SEA/LV as expected, the map definitely tilts heavily towards the west from a strictly geographic POV. NO/MEM/MIN seems like the most logical to go East to balance things out if they stick with conferences.

Minnesota would definitely go East, they travel the most distance and are really close to Central division.

[Extra Stout]

32 team NBA

Pacific Division
LAL, LAC, SAC, PHX, POR, GSW, SEA, LV

Midwest Division
SAS, DAL, HOU, OKC, MEM, NOP, DEN, UTA

Central Division
MIN, CHI, DET, IND, CLE, ATL, CHA, MIL

Atlantic Division
NYK, BKN, PHI, BOS, WAS, ORL, MIA, TOR

Top 8 teams in each conference make playoffs

Division champions get top 2 seeds

Home court advantage by record not seed

Just like before 2004

[baseline bum]

When the league goes to 32 (edited to correct), they'll have to go 8 divisions per conference (or abandon divisions which are kind of meaningless anyway, but I don't think they will)... I think SA/DAL/HOU + OKC/NO will be a group they'll want to keep together. OKC would make the most sense to me... but MEM and NO are kind of odd balls that don't fit in with the rest of the map.

Maybe they just go away from conferences all together... who knows. If it's SEA/LV as expected, the map definitely tilts heavily towards the west from a strictly geographic POV. NO/MEM/MIN seems like the most logical to go East to balance things out if they stick with conferences.

Come on they don't GAF about the map in sports. I remember when the Atlanta Braves were in the NL West for years. :lol

Could definitely see them moving two of the Spurs/Wolves/Mavs east to get interesting Finals with OKC every year.

[Arguendo]

ok it could be a pipe dream...
So, for example, a Fox plus Wesley and Graham plus 2025 number 14, plus some other picks for Flagg plus Irving contract plus other Dallas garbage contracts could at least be considered balanced in the wiew of Dallas and SA respective goals...

Dreaming too much?
Not gonna happen...but Fox plus #2 for Kyrie plus #1 is close enough money wise.
They have gone all-in for AD/now.
I'd seriously consider that trade because Flagg would be perfect with Wemby and Castle, maybe we could flip Kyrie as a sign/trade next yr or just have $40Mish million in capspace to absorb salaries...but not gonna happen

[SpursGenius]

For the record with all these stupid responses. I want Dylan Harper. I was just making a point about what happened last year. If Flagg and agent wanted to go that course they could obviously. The Sarr situation was the litmus test and NBA did nothing about it. Opened Pandora’s box. Everyone just too stupid to realize it. Media, this board etc. I was just making a factual point.

[Holt's Cat]

Mavs got a major present. They needed that in the worst way. I don’t think they screw up that bad a second time.

[Tyronn Lue]

Damn. Let's see Flag play half a season before we build a shrine.

[Tyronn Lue]

Mavs got a major present. They needed that in the worst way. I don’t think they screw up that bad a second time.
Maybe they trade him to LA for Hachimura.

[T Park]

They do not.

They do not want to bring the Mavs to Vegas.

They want to bring Vegas to the Mavs, in a manner of speaking.

why mess around with the Mavericks when Lebron after he retires brings an expansion team alongside Seattle?

[T Park]

The Spurs will be back in the east with the next expansion.

Or a couple other current western teams.

Problem solved.

Memphis and Minnesota going east solves some problems.

[ChumpDumper]

why mess around with the Mavericks when Lebron after he retires brings an expansion team alongside Seattle?

Realistically the team in danger of moving out of state in the next five years is actually the Spurs, although the odds are very low.

The Mavericks already have the land for their new arena plus potentially a lot more. It seems like they could go it mostly alone for financing but it would go a whole lot easier if they could stick a casino next to it.

[Obstructed_View]

Wait...Sarr forced his way to the Spurs? Why am I always the last to hear about this stuff?

[scott]

Realistically the team in danger of moving out of state in the next five years is actually the Spurs, although the odds are very low.

The Mavericks already have the land for their new arena plus potentially a lot more. It seems like they could go it mostly alone for financing but it would go a whole lot easier if they could stick a casino next to it.

Mavericks are looking for a new arena as well? The AAC is pretty nice and in a great location, that kind of surprises me, but I was also surprised when they build a new stadium for the Rangers, so I guess stadiums just have a short lifespan these days

[ChumpDumper]

Mavericks are looking for a new arena as well? The AAC is pretty nice and in a great location, that kind of surprises me, but I was also surprised when they build a new stadium for the Rangers, so I guess stadiums just have a short lifespan these daysThey can probably make more money with an arena they own and don't have to share with the Stars, but again it's supposed to be one of the attractions in a gambling resort.

[Degoat]

Kind of off topic, but honestly the Mavs would be a great spot for CP3 to land lol he’d get to start and play meaningful ball for a probable playoff team

[Ice009]

Kind of off topic, but honestly the Mavs would be a great spot for CP3 to land lol he’d get to start and play meaningful ball for a probable playoff team

I said the same thing a day or two ago. Having said that, I'd rather he didn't go there as they're a rival of the Spurs. Don't really want him giving any information on what our players strengths and weaknesses are.