Pick #38 - Strategies

[Knoxxx]

Zikarsky anyone?

7-Foot-4 Prospect is Turning Heads at NBA Draft Combine (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/7-foot-4-prospect-is-turning-heads-at-nba-draft-combine/ar-AA1EIA3a?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=70a22e692dfa47c5a51bedb2f058dba1&ei=8)

Zikarsky boasts an imposing 7-foot-4 barefoot height and a 257-pound frame, but it was his measured standing reach of 9-foot-6½ inches that captured scouts’ attention during the standing vertical jump test.

[RC_Drunkford]

pick a 3rd string big and sign him to an NBA contract

[Guru of Nothing]

I'm starting to bang the drum for the Spurs to sign Luke Kornet, but whether we do or not, I too would like to see a 7-footer brought in with our 2nd round pick (assuming we use it) and see if we can develop him. It felt like just a few more offensive rebounds in the dead of this past season could have swung the outcome of several games.

[CGD]

This is where I like my upper classmen to go. Like that UF guard, Fleming, etc.

[Chinook]

pick a 3rd string big and sign him to an NBA contract

100 percent. It could have been third-string PG had the Spurs not moved up in the lottery. Now it seems clear PG at 2, wing at 14 and center at 38.

[Mr. Body]

I don't know the next time the Spurs will take a 2nd round pick for themselves. I'd be pretty surprised if they use it this year.

[scott]

I really want Drake Powell here if he makes it that far. Will be an ideal G-League stash for us. Supremely athletic, similar size to Danny Green, good shooter, needs time to develop.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

I really want Drake Powell here if he makes it that far. Will be an ideal G-League stash for us. Supremely athletic, similar size to Danny Green, good shooter, needs time to develop.

After his showing at the combine he's super unlikely to drop this low. I like him too.

Truth is the Spurs will very likely trade this pick if they keep 2 and 14, or even if they keep only one of these.

[CGD]

Other things to consider is that if there is a guy they really like but as risk of going right before 38, the Spurs could probably easily trade up to grab one of Brookyns picks in that range (26/27)

[LeBowen]

Other things to consider is that if there is a guy they really like but as risk of going right before 38, the Spurs could probably easily trade up to grab one of Brookyns picks in that range (26/27)

2025: 1
2026: 4
2027: 1
2028: 3
2029: 3
2030: 2
2031: 2

The number of SRPs Spurs own in each draft.
Will be easy to trade up.

[Tyrone Jenkins]

Eric Dixon - stretch 4

[Bruno]

I don't want Spurs to do that but draft and stash a player is a strong possibility after the Nunez pick last season.

International players have until June 15 to withdraw from the draft. It will be interesting to see who stay in it.

[intlspurshk]

Maybe pairing this pick with Branham to see what trade could be made for future late FRP

[scottspurs]

Harper at 2

Cedric Coward at 14

Maxime Raynaud at 38- plays chess with Wemby, went to Stanford. Same school as Mitch Johnson.

[exstatic]

Ivasic, either twin. Maybe Michael Ruzic, Joventut in the ACB.

[RC_Drunkford]

I just don't want the Spurs to play the "who takes a 2-way contract?" game. Sign a guy with potential to an NBA deal. There are plenty of players in the 2nd round who could be better than the Branham's and Bassey's of the world. Centers are not hard to evaluate. You just need somebody who is long enough to block shots, rebounds and sets hard screens. That could result into having a back up big on a bargain contract in the future.

[scottspurs]

Ivasic, either twin. Maybe Michael Ruzic, Joventut in the ACB.
The twins pulled their names from the draft and they are both playing at Illinois next season

[palangi]

Amaro Williams C Kentucky

Alex Congdon PF/C Florida

Vladislav Goldin C Michigan

Rocco Zikarsky C Australia

Maxime Reynard C Stanford

[spurraider21]

yeah just take some oaf who can block a shot and rebound like kalkbrenner, zikarsky, etc.

i dont know the prospects in this range well enough to meaningfully contribute

[exstatic]

The twins pulled their names from the draft and they are both playing at Illinois next season

The players are deserting Calipari. Boogie Fland pulled out and went into the portal, too.

[Mal]

Maybe Goldin from Michigan, if C is the choice

[mo7888]

Kalkbrenner or Raynaud

[objective]

YangGANG or Rocco-Z.

Or if they fall ....

Thiero, Gonzalez, Joan

[Light]

Harper at 2

Cedric Coward at 14

Maxime Raynaud at 38- plays chess with Wemby, went to Stanford. Same school as Mitch Johnson.


I really hope the Spurs can snag Maxime Raynaud. Would be perfect at 38.

[Obstructed_View]

Given their track record, the Spurs will pass on useful talent at 14 and pick a retard who can't even play in Austin to warm the bench.

[Russ]

I really hope the Spurs can snag Maxime Raynaud. Would be perfect at 38.

Problem with Raynaud is the Combine. (And his overall body of work at Stanford.)

He's done so well there that he's likely to move to somewhere into the 1st Round.

[Knoxxx]

Some decent center should be around at 38, they can't all move up. As far as not keeping the pick, there seems to be some spots to me for the Austin Spurs if not the main roster (minus Biyombo, Bassey, and/or Paul). Minix could even get a shot at the main roster, Duke and Barnes are replaceable spots.

[Vienna]

A player totally under the radar is RJ Luis. (He might very well pull out and take NIL money, though)
If he stays in the draft, at#38 Spurs should consider him.
he is a very good and versatile defender, decent size for a wing, good athlete.
his shooting improved over the season, for the last 10 games he shot 22-45 on 3s.
yes, his last game against Arkansas was disappointing, might be a reason, why he isn‘t ranked higher.

[BackHome]

Some decent center should be around at 38, they can't all move up. As far as not keeping the pick, there seems to be some spots to me for the Austin Spurs if not the main roster (minus Biyombo, Bassey, and/or Paul). Minix could even get a shot at the main roster, Duke and Barnes are replaceable spots.

So many ways to go to improve team but time to stop being nice need to start improving the bench - Biyimbo, Bassey, Ingrim, Branham, all need to be either traded or let go.

[Twisted_Dawg]

Given their track record, the Spurs will pass on useful talent at 14 and pick a retard who can't even play in Austin to warm the bench.

^^POTD^^

[John B]

It’s going to depend who they got at #14. If they got a PF/C like Sorber or Wolf, then a wing at #38.

[BackHome]

They probably either trading it or drafting an international player/stash

[Knoxxx]

So many ways to go to improve team but time to stop being nice need to start improving the bench - Biyimbo, Bassey, Ingrim, Branham, all need to be either traded or let go.

Yes I meant Engram not Barnes but yes we need to have some roster churn when it’s clear players aren’t going to likely ever crack the rotation. Branham and Wesley I don’t really mention being under contract, though I’d expect either could be trade filler or waiver candidates.

[jjspur]

The #38 pick should be used for the 14th/15th guy on the team or someone to stash in the G-League for development. Of our 3 G-league guys only Minix showed any real promise but he got injured. If Minix gets healthy and returns, he should be given a chance for the end of the bench spot or at the least another season in the G-League. Considering we have a few players not coming back and a few we probably don't want back, there will be a few open spots available for a few new drafted players / free agents. Either way, the team will have a bit of a new look to it next season.

[Eaglenole2002]

Feels like the perfect spot to draft a big who is willing to accept a two-way or possibly a guaranteed three or four year deal. I’d be thrilled with getting Kalkbrenner on a guaranteed contract in round 2, but he’s probably long gone.

[SpursBills]

(Will almost definitely be gone)
1. Kalk - probably going to get snatched up by Boston to replace Kornet, but if not he's one of the surest bets to become a rotation player of any guy in the draft.
2. Penda - defensive wings who can pass and have some shooting upside are always useful

(May actually be available)
3. Drake Powell -
I'm with scott on this one. Here is where you take a bet on RSCI ranking + athleticism + shooting priors. Justin Edwards sucked it up all year at Kentucky as the RSCI top 3 guy, saw his stock plummet, got drafted by Philly, and has arguably already outperformed his draft slot.
Powell - #11 overall RSCI recruit - is a defensive wing with an excellent frame (6'6-7" in shoes, 7' wingspan); possibly nuclear athleticism (tops in standing vert and max vert). He shot 39.5% on catch and shoot 3s this year, 38% overall, and 38% on long 2s. People point to his 65% FTs as a poor shooting signal yet ignore his much larger HS sample size where he routinely shot 80% or more. 1.5 AST:TO suggests his bbIQ is at least not terrible either. Talent masked by being on a team with a bunch of upperclassmen. This is a profile worth taking a gamble on to find your cheap 3 and D forwards of the future.

[Knoxxx]

(Will almost definitely be gone)
1. Kalk - probably going to get snatched up by Boston to replace Kornet, but if not he's one of the surest bets to become a rotation player of any guy in the draft.
2. Penda - defensive wings who can pass and have some shooting upside are always useful

(May actually be available)
3. Drake Powell -
I'm with scott on this one. Here is where you take a bet on RSCI ranking + athleticism + shooting priors. Justin Edwards sucked it up all year at Kentucky as the RSCI top 3 guy, saw his stock plummet, got drafted by Philly, and has arguably already outperformed his draft slot.
Powell - #11 overall RSCI recruit - is a defensive wing with an excellent frame (6'6-7" in shoes, 7' wingspan); possibly nuclear athleticism (tops in standing vert and max vert). He shot 39.5% on catch and shoot 3s this year, 38% overall, and 38% on long 2s. People point to his 65% FTs as a poor shooting signal yet ignore his much larger HS sample size where he routinely shot 80% or more. 1.5 AST:TO suggests his bbIQ is at least not terrible either. Talent masked by being on a team with a bunch of upperclassmen. This is a profile worth taking a gamble on to find your cheap 3 and D forwards of the future.

Powell could certainly be worth a flyer on as a possibly more economical Vassell and/or Johnson replacement.

[RC_Drunkford]

(Will almost definitely be gone)
1. Kalk - probably going to get snatched up by Boston to replace Kornet, but if not he's one of the surest bets to become a rotation player of any guy in the draft.
2. Penda - defensive wings who can pass and have some shooting upside are always useful

(May actually be available)
3. Drake Powell -
I'm with scott on this one. Here is where you take a bet on RSCI ranking + athleticism + shooting priors. Justin Edwards sucked it up all year at Kentucky as the RSCI top 3 guy, saw his stock plummet, got drafted by Philly, and has arguably already outperformed his draft slot.
Powell - #11 overall RSCI recruit - is a defensive wing with an excellent frame (6'6-7" in shoes, 7' wingspan); possibly nuclear athleticism (tops in standing vert and max vert). He shot 39.5% on catch and shoot 3s this year, 38% overall, and 38% on long 2s. People point to his 65% FTs as a poor shooting signal yet ignore his much larger HS sample size where he routinely shot 80% or more. 1.5 AST:TO suggests his bbIQ is at least not terrible either. Talent masked by being on a team with a bunch of upperclassmen. This is a profile worth taking a gamble on to find your cheap 3 and D forwards of the future.

Powell seems super underrated. He‘s like Edgecombe light and should easily stick in the NBA

[TD 21]

I was out of commission and late to the party, but when I first started diving into the draft, Powell was the first player that struck me as a Spur.

The problem is, 14 seems a reach (this is the team that drafted Primo 12th though, so who knows) and 38 is probably too late.

[cutewizard]

https://youtu.be/Hlm95kJQz0I?si=EcYFMm9UiXLWYfXl

[cutewizard]

https://youtu.be/78c4Brf8Y6U?si=Fb-bHFeoXNp1W4Re

[Guru of Nothing]

Came to this thread with Hansen Yang in mind. Intriguing prospect. Have to believe that the Chinese government would *not* have a hand in where he lands, and surely the Spurs organization would rate highly in their eyes. Maybe they bring a little Chinese money to the organization too. Seems low risk at 38. Tankathon puts him at 47 on their big board.

Edited to change meaning^^^

[scottspurs]

I love Hansen Yang but the Spurs were not one of the 8 teams that met with the Chinese Government and scouted him in China so unless it’s CIA Mitch I’m not sure they are high on him

[Knoxxx]

I watched Hansen Yang highlights. Looked very skilled with great size and moves well.

[scottspurs]

In this deep draft I hope the Spurs just pick a player high on their board but with roster crunches I feel like they may draft a lesser prospect that will agree to a two-way or a draft and stash. I would be cool with Hugo Gonzalez or Ben Saraf here. Let them develop in Europe and bring them over in 3-5 years when you need cheap contracts to fill out the roster

[Eaglenole2002]

In this deep draft I hope the Spurs just pick a player high on their board but with roster crunches I feel like they may draft a lesser prospect that will agree to a two-way or a draft and stash. I would be cool with Hugo Gonzalez or Ben Saraf here. Let them develop in Europe and bring them over in 3-5 years when you need cheap contracts to fill out the roster

Seems like 38 will hinge on what happens at 14. If we actually pick at 14 I’d be stunned if we drafted a player at 38 that will have to be rostered. If we settle for a non draft and stash, I wonder about the Penn State center as a potential two-way player. Looks like a potential rim-running/rim protector type.

[Ariel]

Draft is so potential based nowadays that any young prospect with perceived upside that goes isn't selected in the first round is likely to come with huge red flags. Sometimes you get a Jokic but that's one in a few hundreeds, more often than not you get a long term prospect that consumes resources (roster spot, playing time, coaches attention) and either never pans out, or takes so long to develop that it ends up happening in another team. So I'm firmly in the camp of selecting a player with a bigger sample to analyze, and a baseline of skill and traits that at the very least would make him playable in a rotation.

No more raw, no defense guards, non shooting wings, no defense bigs, no knuckleheads, target a safe archetype with some substance even if little upside, which is not so easy to find via free agency and trades. Some examples of this would be Kalkbrenner as a rim protector with some shooting, or Proctor as a big guard who can really shoot it. I would definitely consider Drake Powell who might not superficially fit that bill, but he has a defined role which would make him playable early on (defense and spot up shooting). Other than that, it's far more productive to add ammo into the war chest of 2nd rounders which will definitely be helpful in putting together some complementary pieces around the core guys.

[scottspurs]

If the Spurs go draft and stash here a prospect I really like is Mouhamed Faye from Senegal. 6’10 rim running center that averages 10 pts and 8 reb in Italian LBA. He shows some amazing athleticism and looks more advanced than some of the other raw big in this class. Does a great job of rolling to the rim and dunks with more power than anyone else I’ve watched in this class. 1.5 blocks a game basically a Clint Capela type player.

[Knoxxx]

Rocco Zikarsy
Alex Condon
even Johnni Broome is a possibility, mocking at #35 currently on Tankathon.

[TekXX]

Cmon quit playing, y'all know it's cash considerations

[RC_Drunkford]

this guy would be another good pick up as a center prospect. 37" vertical at that size is crazy. (Talking about Niederhauser)

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[exstatic]

this guy would be another good pick up as a center prospect. 37" vertical at that size is crazy. (Talking about Niederhauser)

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He’s Javtokas, reincarnated!

[benefactor]

He’s Javtokas, reincarnated!
Gah. What could have been....

[mystargtr34]

My dream 2007-2011 Spurs lineup.

Duncan/Javtokas
Scola/Splitter
Bowen
Manu
Parker

What could have been !!

[Mugen]

This pick is 1000% getting traded tbh. It's BWrong's MO.

[Bruno]

Latest espn top 100 big board:
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/41662748/2025-nba-draft-big-board-rankings-top-100-prospects-players

How NIL is affecting the second round is quite crazy. Between 35th and 100th on this big board, there is only 1 college underclassman (Tyrese Proctor at #43).

At pick #38, there will still maybe have a couple of college underclassmen left for Spurs (among Proctor, Niederhauser, Thiero and Powell) but the bulk of available players will be either college seniors, that are between 22 and 24 years old, or international prospects.

If the pick isn't traded, draft and stash sounds highly likely with this pool of players.

[scottspurs]

Yeah with all the players returning to school I feel like a draft and stash or lesser prospect that will accept a two way will be the route the spurs go if they keep this pick. I would rather kick the can down the road and get a future 2nd. A few interesting draft and stash candidates but I would just rather go after two way guys after the draft.

[scott]

Latest espn top 100 big board:
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/41662748/2025-nba-draft-big-board-rankings-top-100-prospects-players

How NIL is affecting the second round is quite crazy. Between 35th and 100th on this big board, there is only 1 college underclassman (Tyrese Proctor at #43).

At pick #38, there will still maybe have a couple of college underclassmen left for Spurs (among Proctor, Niederhauser, Thiero and Powell) but the bulk of available players will be either college seniors, that are between 22 and 24 years old, or international prospects.

If the pick isn't traded, draft and stash sounds highly likely with this pool of players.

Five of my favorite non-elite prospects come in between 26 and 31 (26 - Fleming, 28 - Penda, 29 - Coward, 30 - Saraf, 31 - Powell). It's going to be painful to watch them all come off right before our pick at 38, tbh (not that I necessarily think we'll use 38 even if they are there).

[RC_Drunkford]

Five of my favorite non-elite prospects come in between 26 and 31 (26 - Fleming, 28 - Penda, 29 - Coward, 30 - Saraf, 31 - Powell). It's going to be painful to watch them all come off right before our pick at 38, tbh (not that I necessarily think we'll use 38 even if they are there).

i doubt Coward will fall past OKC at #15

[jjspur]

If all the players we like are already gone, I'd be looking at the 12th-15th guys on other teams. After all, that's probably where a player we drafted at 38 would end up on the roster. If possible, trade the pick for someone with at least a little bit of NBA experience, rather than for a future pick or another stash. I think there will be a lot of trades on draft night, maybe the spurs can do something with the 38th pick to help the team now rather than later.

[scottspurs]

i doubt Coward will fall past OKC at #15
I heard on a podcast that teams believe Coward got a lottery promise

[scott]

I heard on a podcast that teams believe Coward got a lottery promise

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[Knoxxx]

That Yang guy remains a legit backup C option at 38.

[SpursFan86]

Assuming we go with someone like Bryant or Essengue at 14, I’d be fine with Yang. I’d prefer Kalkbrenner but doubt he’s available at 38.

If we get Sorber/Fleming, the wing options at 38 seem not-so-appealing. Powell is about the only guy in that range I’d be interested in.

[RC_Drunkford]

I heard on a podcast that teams believe Coward got a lottery promise

as he should. He's a high level 3-and-D guy with elite wingspan and athleticism with a polished jumpshot. No-brainer tbh.


Assuming we go with someone like Bryant or Essengue at 14, I’d be fine with Yang. I’d prefer Kalkbrenner but doubt he’s available at 38.

If we get Sorber/Fleming, the wing options at 38 seem not-so-appealing. Powell is about the only guy in that range I’d be interested in.

yeah it seems like a safe bet to find a valuable big in the second round. It's just hard to pass on Sorber cause he's so polished.

[exstatic]

If all the players we like are already gone, I'd be looking at the 12th-15th guys on other teams. After all, that's probably where a player we drafted at 38 would end up on the roster. If possible, trade the pick for someone with at least a little bit of NBA experience, rather than for a future pick or another stash. I think there will be a lot of trades on draft night, maybe the spurs can do something with the 38th pick to help the team now rather than later.

I want to be one of the teams picking at OKC’s carcass next year, specifically JayLIN Williams.

[BackHome]

That Yang guy remains a legit backup C option at 38.

Yeah, I really want us to start investing in some bigs and in a perfect world draft someone with potential at 38 and sign Adams to be a teacher to Wemby and who ever we draft. On a side note, would love to bring Splitter in as assistant coach I think he could really help with the PF/C positions.

[Eaglenole2002]

What do folks think about Koby Brea? He looks like an NBA shooter. Not sure he can do much else, but I think that’s worth a swing at 38.

[scottspurs]

What do folks think about Koby Brea? He looks like an NBA shooter. Not sure he can do much else, but I think that’s worth a swing at 38.
Best shooter in the draft but with a negative wingspan not sure if he provides much else. You can play in this league for a long time though when you are 6’7 and can shoot like he does. I would love him in the 2nd round at 38. Especially if the Spurs draft a player who hasn’t developed in the shooting department at 14.

[objective]

I still like Zikarsky as a developmental back up big

Dibs on the dedicated thread:

The Warm, Hairless Marsupial Pouch of Blocco Dunkarsky

[Knoxxx]

Zikarsky moves well for his size could he be our Luc Longley?

[SpursBills]

Think there's a definite tier separation around pick #30-35, would definitely recommend a small trade up if possible, especially if 14 gets traded. Now that Powell is going to be out of range, would probably recommend:

1. Kalkbrenner - hopefully he lasts until the second round, but he's easily #1 for me. Near guaranteed rotational big able to contribute almost immediately, probably not much difference in impact between him and rotational big like Kornet by year 2-3

2. Thiero - don't care that he can't shoot it, need a Cissoko replacement deep bench developmental prospect. Not quite Thompson twins athletic, but probably 95th percentile with a positive AST:TO and really nice turnover generation. 45 dunks on the year. Poor 3 point shooter, but >45% from midrange on average last 2 years suggests that he *might* shoot it.

3. Sion James - strong, decent defender, shoots the 3 reasonably well, probably a useful player down the line

4. Hansen Yang - because fuck it, why not, he's probably better than Danny Wolf

[cutewizard]

https://youtu.be/nEvWNgZSz18?si=DEz_pbb9DzBdYtF2

[scottspurs]

I’m really liking Momo Faye for this pick. Averaging 10 pts, 8 Reb, 1.5 Blk in the LBA in Italy. Measured in at 6’9 with 7’4 1/2 wingspan. On tape looks like one of the most athletic bigs in this class. 12-15 minutes off the bench behind Wemby. I think he can give you that right away. He can really run the floor well. I think you can really push the pace when he is in. Major job threat. Disruptive on defense. Over time you could develop his shot and his perimeter defense and he might be able to play the 4.

[scottspurs]

I’m really liking Momo Faye for this pick. Averaging 10 pts, 8 Reb, 1.5 Blk in the LBA in Italy. Measured in at 6’9 with 7’4 1/2 wingspan. On tape looks like one of the most athletic bigs in this class. 12-15 minutes off the bench behind Wemby. I think he can give you that right away. He can really run the floor well. I think you can really push the pace when he is in. Major job threat. Disruptive on defense. Over time you could develop his shot and his perimeter defense and he might be able to play the 4.

[Vienna]

I think we (and most mocks) are sleeping on Bogoljub Markovic. He could be stashed in Europe for a year or two and work on his major flaw, that means adding strenght. he is a good shooter with a super high arch and he can play the game the right way, he can move well and pass.

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

Best shooter available. Easy

[Ice009]

Wow. Very interesting player. I like it as a possible pick.

Looks like he got to learn from Kenneth Faried (I forgot about this guy. I used to like him when he was on the Nuggets) last season.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

I think we (and most mocks) are sleeping on Bogoljub Markovic. He could be stashed in Europe for a year or two and work on his major flaw, that means adding strenght. he is a good shooter with a super high arch and he can play the game the right way, he can move well and pass.

He's my guy for 38 if they don't trade the pick. I fear he's going to go higher after the measurements - 7 feet in shoes, came at 215, bigger than expected. He moves very well for his size, can handle a little bit and of course his shooting is legit. The only fear is what his true position will be in the NBA.

[jjspur]

Since we're probably taking the #2 but possibly trading the #14 and a player or players, I really think we should keep the #38 pick. That being said, I'd love to take a big at that spot, but most good bigs will probably have been taken already. That leaves a few somewhat raw, development type players which will probably be G-Leaguers for a few years. At that point I'd just select the best player available, even if its not necessarily a big.

Alex Toohey SF He is a big small forward and looked real good at the combine ; has played professionally in Australia
Johni Broome PF/C He plays an old school game defensively, but he may drop a bit since he didn't do all that well in the combine. Played well in the NCAA tournament.
Drake Powell SG Does a bit of everything, but I think he goes higher than 38 because of his overall skills
Eric Dixon PF A big talented husky guy who can push other PF's around plus he can shoot. He is a bit slow though. I think he could stay healthier than our current guys which makes his a value at 38.

[Spur|n|Austin]

Gah. What could have been....

Don't sleep on James Flight White! :p:

[cutewizard]

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[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XM1KJDfjYLk

[scottspurs]

Micah Peavy a player that has a confirmed workout with the Spurs is a strong candidate for this pick. Led the Big east in steals and minutes played. Averaged 17 ppg with 40% 3-pt percentage on 4 attempts per game. Is also one of the best on ball defenders in this class. I would say top 5 on ball perimeter defense. When Peavy and Sorber were on the floor together Georgetown had the best defensive rating in College Basketball.

[rascal]

The best strategy for the 38 pick is to get on the phones and move up in the draft offering up additional 2nd's to get the player they want.

[Knoxxx]

Also we have 9 EXTRA SRPs over the next 6 drafts from 2026-2031. A number of the terms are so complex who could keep track of it all. We need to be consolidating those into better picks and player trade throw ins and what not.

Trading up of course is a great option, not sure how realistic though. Ultimately I just think it will be really interesting to see how much accumulating a Guinness Book world record of SRPs ends up benefitting us or not.

Spurs future picks recap: https://www.bleachernation.com/nba/2025/06/11/spurs-2025-draft-picks/

[benefactor]

Good night, sweet prince

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

This pick was always getting traded after Spurs decided to keep 2 and 14, but they should have waited until tomorrow to see if someone overpays for a player dropping down. Don't make a decision before you have to.

Not like getting an additional 2nd or a bit more cash would have been too significant in the grand scheme of things, but it's about the decision making process. NO made a similar decision, albeit much more significant, to return Indiana their '26 pick a couple of days before Haliburton tore his achilles, when they clearly should have waited until draft night to finalize it.

On the bright side, we won't need to sit through that horrible second day of the draft. Reverse it to a single day draft Silver, ffs.

[spurraider21]

^ Exactly this

if we still had 38 and i knew Fleming was still on the board I’d be going nuts with anticipation

[Mr. Body]

I kinda wonder if the Spurs sort of owed one to Indiana, like there was an overpay in a SRP for McBuckets and the Spurs was supposed to eventually even the scale. Dunno. I know these teams have good relationships and these relationships are ongoing, so this may have been part of a longer series of moves in smaller ways.

[Knoxxx]

The 38 always seemed a little too low to get a useful player but acquiring any of pick 31 to 33 seems like a decent option if improbable. Kalk, Fleming, Reynaud guaranteed at 31-33.

[Mugen]

This pick is 1000% getting traded tbh. It's BWrong's MO.

Trading the pick wasn’t surprising in the least. But trading it before Nosferatu could even announce Flagg’s name makes zero sense :lol

[sfernald]

Yeah if they want Reynaud they need to get 33 or 34 from charlotte. Charlotte won’t want another second this year so we can use that future second to score this pick if we want. 2 or 3 future seconds of which this is one plus the cash we just got ought to do it. I could see them nabbing one of these centers they really like maybe.

[rascal]

^ Exactly this

if we still had 38 and i knew Fleming was still on the board I’d be going nuts with anticipation

Fleming isn't going to last to 38. Try to get him wth three seconds but if not.

Would it be stupid to offer a lottery protected first for Fleming?

[spurraider21]

Fleming isn't going to last to 38. Try to get him wth three seconds but if not.

Would it be stupid to offer a lottery protected first for Fleming?
yes it would.

going rate for a second usually is 2 seconds, or a second plus cash

[scott]

So... Brian Wright said the Spurs actually tried to trade up to get Carter Bryant. It all worked out in the end, but you know what probably would have been helpful in trying to trade up? The #38 pick. Just weird.

[couchman]

Yeah I hate how we’ve devalued 2nds as an organization

[Bruno]

Spurs got Kings 2030 second round pick for #38. It's a fine return given Kings situation (even if it will change in the next 5 years).

There are 4 players left that can help Spurs: Raynaud, Fleming, Penda and Kalkbrenner.
Spurs could package 2 or 3 future second round picks to get one of them with a very early second round pick.
Will they do it and have 3 rookies next season? Likely no, but we'll see..

[scott]

Gotta figure one of those CHA picks is available for the taking. Certainly they don't want to take 4 rookies in this draft.

[onechance87]

Spurs got Kings 2030 second round pick for #38. It's a fine return given Kings situation (even if it will change in the next 5 years).

There are 4 players left that can help Spurs: Raynaud, Fleming, Penda and Kalkbrenner.
Spurs could package 2 or 3 future second round picks to get one of them with a very early second round pick.
Will they do it and have 3 rookies next season? Likely no, but we'll see..

it would be a no brainer trying to get fleming in the second round.Especially if we arent bringing mamu,bassey
or biyombo back.

[Ariel]

Spurs got Kings 2030 second round pick for #38. It's a fine return given Kings situation (even if it will change in the next 5 years).

There are 4 players left that can help Spurs: Raynaud, Fleming, Penda and Kalkbrenner.
Spurs could package 2 or 3 future second round picks to get one of them with a very early second round pick.
Will they do it and have 3 rookies next season? Likely no, but we'll see..
Yeah, I was saying the same thing in another thread. The bare minimum in the 31-35 range (where those guys likely go) is probably 2 picks, maybe 3 for 31. I'd give up 2 SRPs for any of them, 3 in Fleming's case.

[Vienna]

I don't understand why Spurs fans are upset that they traded the pick before the 1st round. this "oh, we need to wait to see who is falling" is naive. they were not going to use the pick, no matter what.

so, now you have to see it from the Pacers perspective. for them it did matter to already know last night, if they will have another 2nd round pick. it does matter regarding their strategies during last nicht.

so, the move did help the Pacers and it did not hurt the Spurs. I see it as a "do me a favor" thing. one day this will pay off for the Spurs, maybe already during the next weeks, when they need a team to help out facilitating some minor moves.

[mystargtr34]

I’d do 3 SRP’s for 31-33 to take one of Fleming, Kalkbrenner, Penda, Raynaud.

I agree Bruno is right these are the last 4 who have any value to me. Maybe Adou Thierro is the only other. Not interested in anyone else.

All 4’s and 5’s

[Vienna]

Spurs will have 12 player under contract, counting #2 and #14. they have decisions to make about bringing back 3 or 4 guys. they likely will be active in the FA market.

they just don't see another young player, who makes any sense in the current situation, no matter what his name is. they won't trade back into the 2nd round. end of story.

[venitian navigator]

Sorry but I disagree... When you have first round talent going in second round exactly in the roles you still have available, you go for it with all the reasonable resources possible... Imho that's the case for both Fleming and Raynoud... Being second rounders you can make contracts for having them in cost control for many years (a la Champagnie and Bassey way) and having four rookies doesn't change the balance of the team... On the contrary gives us a more than solid base to build upon in the long term. That's, always Imho, a once in a decade occasion not to lose... I would really really like have both of them drafted tonight...

[RC_Drunkford]

Sorry but I disagree... When you have first round talent going in second round exactly in the roles you still have available, you go for it with all the reasonable resources possible... Imho that's the case for both Fleming and Raynoud... Being second rounders you can make contracts for having them in cost control for many years (a la Champagnie and Bassey way) and having four rookies doesn't change the balance of the team... On the contrary gives us a more than solid base to build upon in the long term. That's, always Imho, a once in a decade occasion not to lose... I would really really like have both of them drafted tonight...

yeah especially cause we will need players on these type of contracts down the line with all the extensions coming up and maybe even trading for an All-Star. You just can't let that value slide. Besides Fleming, Kalkbrenner and Raynaud are older players and not freshmen. They should be able to produce right away.

[venitian navigator]

yeah especially cause we will need players on these type of contracts down the line with all the extensions coming up and maybe even trading for an All-Star. You just can't let that value slide. Besides Fleming, Kalkbrenner and Raynaud are older players and not freshmen. They should be able to produce right away.

That's right... Plus they both looks spurs character like, Fleming very humble (and 3 and d qualities as a strong PF player) and Raynoud with the Wemby connection (and him too with a decent 3 point skill...) ... Lots of reasons to draft them both

[John B]

That's right... Plus they both looks spurs character like, Fleming very humble (and 3 and d qualities as a strong PF player) and Raynoud with the Wemby connection (and him too with a decent 3 point skill...) ... Lots of reasons to draft them both

It’s not over until the fat lady sings. Spurs have plenty of future picks that they can trade for anyone of those players.

I like either Fleming or Reynaud.

[LeBowen]

Trade up possibilities:

#31 Timberwolves: They have no SRPs in '27 and '28, we also have their '26 SPR in a bunch of convoluted swaps. They're in a bad cap situation if Randle opts in and they want to extend Naz, I'm not sure they want another guaranteed contract. It should be easy to get the pick with a handful of SRPs.

#32 Celtics: I don't see them trading it away unless both Kornet and Horford already agreed to stay, they need bigs.

#33 and #34 Hornets: Traded away Mark Williams, they'll also probably get a big, but will they take 2 more rookies and make it 4 total? You never know with incompetent franchises, tbh.

#35 Sixers: Just 10 players on the roster and no cap space, they'll probably making the pick.

#36 Nets: They have all the future SRPs they need and Marks might just take another rookie for the memes.

#37 Pistons: Another roster with just 10 players and plenty of future SRPs.

I guess it's either the Timberwolves or the Hornets if we trade back into the second round.

[mystargtr34]

Looking at fanspo trade machine looks like the Spurs have 16 SRP’s from 2026-31 including the Sacramento 2030 they just got from Indiana.

2026 - 4
2027 - 1
2028 - 3
2029 - 3
2030 - 3
2031 - 2

[Vienna]

how many roster spots do the Spurs have? 30?
how many minutes is a game? 90?
how many minutes can you offer all thoses low cost can't miss contracts that you stockpile for the future?
and why do you stockpile those contracts this year, when you own about a hundred 2nd rounders in the next years?
plus a 1st rounder every year.

they don't see Fleming or Raynaud, or whoever is left, as part of the future. live with it. they did their shopping in the draft and now they move to the FA store or they do some trades.

and no, teams were not wrong when they passed on Fleming at 8 (remember, there was this idea to draft him at that spot before Spurs won #2), teams (Spurs in particular) were not wrong when they passed on him at 14 and teams were not wrong, when they didn't pick him in the 1st round at all.

[mystargtr34]

Trade up possibilities:

#31 Timberwolves: They have no SRPs in '27 and '28, we also have their '26 SPR in a bunch of convoluted swaps. They're in a bad cap situation if Randle opts in and they want to extend Naz, I'm not sure they want another guaranteed contract. It should be easy to get the pick with a handful of SRPs.

#32 Celtics: I don't see them trading it away unless both Kornet and Horford already agreed to stay, they need bigs.

#33 and #34 Hornets: Traded away Mark Williams, they'll also probably get a big, but will they take 2 more rookies and make it 4 total? You never know with incompetent franchises, tbh.

#35 Sixers: Just 10 players on the roster and no cap space, they'll probably making the pick.

#36 Nets: They have all the future SRPs they need and Marks might just take another rookie for the memes.

#37 Pistons: Another roster with just 10 players and plenty of future SRPs.

I guess it's either the Timberwolves or the Hornets if we trade back into the second round.

Agree with your analysis.

Minny at 31 or Charlotte at 34 seem the most gettable.

Spurs also own Wolves 2028 SRP according to fanspo. I’m sure they’d want that one back. The 2026 Jazz SRP is also very valuable likely to be 31-35. Add in any other one of the 16 and that should get it done.

[venitian navigator]

Frankly I don't understand this way of thinking... Spurs did not chose them simply because they were lucky enough to choose their preferred player at 14...but after that it's clear that both Fleming and Raynoud were legitimate players with middle of first round potential... Spurs didn't have more first round picks... Other teams had probably different needings... But it's for sure a surprise that both these players weren't drafted in the first round and their qualities are Imho mote than obvious... It's just a matter of having a very very deep draft once in a lifetime. And a lot of people were considering both of them as logical and comfortable choices if available for us. Imho it's just a wonderful opportunity to fill our roster with available good to very good players at a more than affordable price for our long and not so long term plans... Skills, tiles and character for both looks more than ideal and not only on paper...

[venitian navigator]

I was replying at Viennas post...

[Eaglenole2002]

Didn’t Brian Wright make some kind of reference to possibly picking in round 2 last night?

I understand that the second round is kind of the Wild West, but to trade it for a pick years down the line along with cash seems so dumb to me. The offer wasn’t an overwhelming one, so why not wait and see what drops? Surely there would have been an offer once the pick was closer to on the clock. He also said he tried to move up for Bryant last night. Would 38 have not been more helpful than a 2030 2? I don’t know. Just seems weird to jump the gun for such a little payoff.

[montgod]

Didn’t Brian Wright make some kind of reference to possibly picking in round 2 last night?

I understand that the second round is kind of the Wild West, but to trade it for a pick years down the line along with cash seems so dumb to me. The offer wasn’t an overwhelming one, so why not wait and see what drops? Surely there would have been an offer once the pick was closer to on the clock. He also said he tried to move up for Bryant last night. Would 38 have not been more helpful than a 2030 2? I don’t know. Just seems weird to jump the gun for such a little payoff.

Yeah it seemed like BW was leaning towards they could pick in the 2nd. Maybe there are some deals on the table with current players where 2nd round picks come back. That or maybe they already have a wink wink deal with a FA who they plan to sign

[John B]

Trade up possibilities:

#31 Timberwolves: They have no SRPs in '27 and '28, we also have their '26 SPR in a bunch of convoluted swaps. They're in a bad cap situation if Randle opts in and they want to extend Naz, I'm not sure they want another guaranteed contract. It should be easy to get the pick with a handful of SRPs.

#32 Celtics: I don't see them trading it away unless both Kornet and Horford already agreed to stay, they need bigs.

#33 and #34 Hornets: Traded away Mark Williams, they'll also probably get a big, but will they take 2 more rookies and make it 4 total? You never know with incompetent franchises, tbh.

#35 Sixers: Just 10 players on the roster and no cap space, they'll probably making the pick.

#36 Nets: They have all the future SRPs they need and Marks might just take another rookie for the memes.

#37 Pistons: Another roster with just 10 players and plenty of future SRPs.

I guess it's either the Timberwolves or the Hornets if we trade back into the second round.

Knowing the “tell” what the Spurs want, which is Reynaud or a backup big, could cost them.

That was a careless mistake tbh. Also the #13 Hawks pick traded to NO, would’ve been a perfect opportunity to trade back ATL pick, potentially grabbing Carter and Sorber in the process was a big opportunity missed.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Knowing the “tell” what the Spurs want, which is Reynaud or a backup big, could cost them.

That was a careless mistake tbh. Also the #13 Hawks pick traded to NO, would’ve been a perfect opportunity to trade back ATL pick, potentially grabbing Carter and Sorber in the process was a big opportunity missed.

The Atlanta swap is less valuable than what they got from NO. How is it a missed opportunity when it’s clearly impossible?

[BackHome]

Yeah, would love for the Spurs to move back in and pick Maxine or Fleming as we have a crap load of players leaving;

Mamu, Bassley, CP, Branham, Biymobo, Ingram, McLaughlin

[John B]

The Atlanta swap is less valuable than what they got from NO. How is it a missed opportunity when it’s clearly impossible?

I’m just saying the Hawks’ pick was open for a trade. What would’ve took to get it? ATL picks? Those are fast becoming garbage but not to Atlanta who’s still one Trae injury away.

[Ice009]

The Atlanta swap is less valuable than what they got from NO. How is it a missed opportunity when it’s clearly impossible?

It's in hindsight. Maybe the Hawks take that offer if the Spurs offered it before NO made their offer. Would have been sweet if then NO offered the Spurs the same deal for either 13 or 14.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

I’m just saying the Hawks’ pick was open for a trade. What would’ve took to get it? ATL picks? Those are fast becoming garbage but not to Atlanta who’s still one Trae injury away.

NO offered pick 23 and an unprotected best of NO/Mil pick next year. there's no sensible offer from the Spurs that would have beaten that.


It's in hindsight. Maybe the Hawks take that offer if the Spurs offered it before NO made their offer. Would have been sweet if then NO offered the Spurs the same deal for either 13 or 14.

I would have definitely taken the NO offer for 14.

This made me think. It's a speculation obviously, but considering Portland took the Memphis deal, which is worse than the NO package, we can deduct they weren't offered that. However, it's very likely that the Bulls, who were expected to get a big, were offered the NO package and turned it down for Essengue, which gives us another layer of hilarity and incompetence.

[Ice009]

NO offered pick 23 and an unprotected best of NO/Mil pick next year. there's no sensible offer from the Spurs that would have beaten that.



I would have definitely taken the NO offer for 14.

This made me think. It's a speculation obviously, but considering Portland took the Memphis deal, which is worse than the NO package, we can deduct they weren't offered that. However, it's very likely that the Bulls, who were expected to get a big, were offered the NO package and turned it down for Essengue, which gives us another layer of hilarity and incompetence.

Yeah, you're right, Spurs couldn't have beaten that offer. Would have been good if it was offered for the 14 instead. If Chicago was offered that deal and they turned it down for Essengue, yeah, they F'd up that one.

[Bruno]

how many roster spots do the Spurs have? 30?
how many minutes is a game? 90?
how many minutes can you offer all thoses low cost can't miss contracts that you stockpile for the future?
and why do you stockpile those contracts this year, when you own about a hundred 2nd rounders in the next years?
plus a 1st rounder every year.

they don't see Fleming or Raynaud, or whoever is left, as part of the future. live with it. they did their shopping in the draft and now they move to the FA store or they do some trades.

and no, teams were not wrong when they passed on Fleming at 8 (remember, there was this idea to draft him at that spot before Spurs won #2), teams (Spurs in particular) were not wrong when they passed on him at 14 and teams were not wrong, when they didn't pick him in the 1st round at all.

I half agree with you on that. I think it would be difficult for Spurs to add Fleming to their roster given all the players they have at that spot.

For Raynaud/Kalkbrenner, there would be more room. Spurs only have 1 center under contract for next season with Wembanyama. Drafting Raynaud/Kalkbrenner and signing a cheap vet center as insurance would work.

[rascal]

Looking at fanspo trade machine looks like the Spurs have 16 SRP’s from 2026-31 including the Sacramento 2030 they just got from Indiana.

2026 - 4
2027 - 1
2028 - 3
2029 - 3
2030 - 3
2031 - 2

Spurs need to use and combine some of these picks to get a player who can make the roster and there are a couple of players in the second round this year that would be fits.

They still have roster needs at PF and C and there are players there in the early second round to fill the PF/C need.

[Mr. Body]

Didn’t Brian Wright make some kind of reference to possibly picking in round 2 last night?

I understand that the second round is kind of the Wild West, but to trade it for a pick years down the line along with cash seems so dumb to me. The offer wasn’t an overwhelming one, so why not wait and see what drops? Surely there would have been an offer once the pick was closer to on the clock. He also said he tried to move up for Bryant last night. Would 38 have not been more helpful than a 2030 2? I don’t know. Just seems weird to jump the gun for such a little payoff.

Yes, Wright mentioned they'd be monitoring and involved in the second night in some way. So they're not taking the night off at least.

[Vienna]

I half agree with you on that. I think it would be difficult for Spurs to add Fleming to their roster given all the players they have at that spot.

For Raynaud/Kalkbrenner, there would be more room. Spurs only have 1 center under contract for next season with Wembanyama. Drafting Raynaud/Kalkbrenner and signing a cheap vet center as insurance would work.

there is just limited room for development players on the roster and even college seniors would be of that kind.
CP and Barnes showed once more, how important vets are regarding the development of the young guns.
now they bring in two more young kids. I just can't see them add more and I also don't see a can't miss opportunity in the 2nd round.

they might/will go for a center in free agency, or try a trade. maybe a S&T, they have enough assets to facilitate/sweeten such deals.
after this moves they might go back to the undrafted market and work with two way or unguarrenteed money.

[vy65]

there is just limited room for development players on the roster and even college seniors would be of that kind.
CP and Barnes showed once more, how important vets are regarding the development of the young guns.
now they bring in two more young kids. I just can't see them add more and I also don't see a can't miss opportunity in the 2nd round.

they might/will go for a center in free agency, or try a trade. maybe a S&T, they have enough assets to facilitate/sweeten such deals.
after this moves they might go back to the undrafted market and work with two way or unguarrenteed money.

That's the wrong calculus. The right calculus is: 1) are there prospects in the 30s that are better than Riley Minnix or Harrison Ingram (the answer is yes) and 2) can a pick be re-purchased at a reasonable price (I'm somewhat skeptical of this). There isn't enough talent at the bottom part of the roster to create a commitment to the detriment of going out and securing better prospects. Particularly when some (e.g., Kalkbrenner and Raynaud) address a position of need.

[scott]

Yes, Wright mentioned they'd be monitoring and involved in the second night in some way. So they're not taking the night off at least.

I’m wondering if teams (not just the Spurs) will use tonight as kind of a kick off to Free Agency by doing a lot of deals with existing players, with tonight’s SRPs as lubricant to be the final piece of said deals.

I’m sure Brian will be active tonight, even if it doesn’t result in any deals actually being done.

[Mr. Body]

I’m wondering if teams (not just the Spurs) will use tonight as kind of a kick off to Free Agency by doing a lot of deals with existing players, with tonight’s SRPs as lubricant to be the final piece of said deals.

I’m sure Brian will be active tonight, even if it doesn’t result in any deals actually being done.

It's rare to have a lot of executives in the same place, right?

[scott]

It's rare to have a lot of executives in the same place, right?

I’m not sure how many are actually in New York… looked like Brian was back at Spurs HQ

[spurraider21]

Spurs got Kings 2030 second round pick for #38. It's a fine return given Kings situation (even if it will change in the next 5 years).

There are 4 players left that can help Spurs: Raynaud, Fleming, Penda and Kalkbrenner.
Spurs could package 2 or 3 future second round picks to get one of them with a very early second round pick.
Will they do it and have 3 rookies next season? Likely no, but we'll see..
yeah the kings one should be a good second round pick. maybe a top 10 second round pick. maybe even #8!

[spurraider21]

Looking at fanspo trade machine looks like the Spurs have 16 SRP’s from 2026-31 including the Sacramento 2030 they just got from Indiana.

2026 - 4
2027 - 1
2028 - 3
2029 - 3
2030 - 3
2031 - 2
cash considerations

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[mystargtr34]

cash considerations

https://media.tenor.com/5pEwMQ6Y87EAAAAM/serious-face.gif

Straight to the Trump campaign!!

[Ariel]

there is just limited room for development players on the roster and even college seniors would be of that kind.
CP and Barnes showed once more, how important vets are regarding the development of the young guns.
now they bring in two more young kids. I just can't see them add more and I also don't see a can't miss opportunity in the 2nd round.

they might/will go for a center in free agency, or try a trade. maybe a S&T, they have enough assets to facilitate/sweeten such deals.
after this moves they might go back to the undrafted market and work with two way or unguarrenteed money.
If you get yourself a player who fits a need and can contribute from day 1, you can easily develop them along the way. The problem stems from taking long term projects who are net negatives for years at least (if not ever), i.e. the Wesley/Branham/Cissoko category, those are the ones we need to avoid. Kalkbrenner would fit nicely from day one, even if as a 10/15 mpg backup. Fleming, Raynaud also, to a lesser degree.

[sfernald]

Next year with the spurs having four seconds, it’s gonna be brutal to watch bw give them away to his gm friends like they were WoWS “fun coupons”.

[DPG21920]

There was no reason to do that trade so fast. Almost everyone who traded their 2nd tonight got more than SA. Most of them got a 2nd in this draft + future 2nd(s) too

[scott]

There was no reason to do that trade so fast. Almost everyone who traded their 2nd tonight got more than SA. Most of them got a 2nd in this draft + future 2nd(s) too

Feels like the Cash Considerations were the more important aspect to the Spurs

[Vienna]

That's the wrong calculus. The right calculus is: 1) are there prospects in the 30s that are better than Riley Minnix or Harrison Ingram (the answer is yes) and 2) can a pick be re-purchased at a reasonable price (I'm somewhat skeptical of this). There isn't enough talent at the bottom part of the roster to create a commitment to the detriment of going out and securing better prospects. Particularly when some (e.g., Kalkbrenner and Raynaud) address a position of need.

no. the wrong calcus is to act as if picking in the 2nd round was the best option to fill a position of need.

including #2 and #14 the Spurs currently have 12 players under contract. this might change because of some moves, but this is where they are right now. and obviously they didn't think it was the best strategy to fill remaining roster spots with some 2nd round picks. I assume they did their calcus of their own and that's the result. it is totally irrelevant, if we think a player like Raynaud is good enough for this roster, if they don't see it that way.

they will put some FAs into this open roster slots and yes, I think that's a better strategy than to roll the dice on Raynaud or Kalkbrenner, who may, or may not, be good enough to play in the NBA.

[rascal]

There was no reason to do that trade so fast. Almost everyone who traded their 2nd tonight got more than SA. Most of them got a 2nd in this draft + future 2nd(s) too

2nd round picks have more value on the 2nd day as the player landscape unfolds.

[vy65]

no. the wrong calcus is to act as if picking in the 2nd round was the best option to fill a position of need.

including #2 and #14 the Spurs currently have 12 players under contract. this might change because of some moves, but this is where they are right now. and obviously they didn't think it was the best strategy to fill remaining roster spots with some 2nd round picks. I assume they did their calcus of their own and that's the result. it is totally irrelevant, if we think a player like Raynaud is good enough for this roster, if they don't see it that way.

they will put some FAs into this open roster slots and yes, I think that's a better strategy than to roll the dice on Raynaud or Kalkbrenner, who may, or may not, be good enough to play in the NBA.

Of course that's their decision making. The whole point is whether its sound or not.

[Vienna]

2nd round picks have more value on the 2nd day as the player landscape unfolds.

evidence?

[benefactor]

evidence?
It very literally just happened

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

It very literally just happened

What happened? No pick around 38 was traded for a significant package.

[Darkwaters]

I would argue that 2nd rounders at the very top of the 2nd round can have immense value (ie, picks 31 an 32).

For instance, most people did not expect Rasheer Fleming to be there at 31. At the beginning of the draft's first day a team might have no interest in trading for 31. However, once they know that pick gets them Fleming their mind might be changed. It's no longer a lottery ticket, but actually has a name attached to it. A player that "should have" gone much earlier and is still available.

Unfortunately, as we get further into the 2nd round I think many of those sliding "would be" 1st round type players get scooped up and then it's just your typical 2nd round flotsam. By the 38th pick there just aren't many (if any) left. And there isn't nearly as much competition to trade for those picks as a result.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

I would argue that 2nd rounders at the very top of the 2nd round can have immense value (ie, picks 31 an 32).

For instance, most people did not expect Rasheer Fleming to be there at 31. At the beginning of the draft's first day a team might have no interest in trading for 31. However, once they know that pick gets them Fleming their mind might be changed. It's no longer a lottery ticket, but actually has a name attached to it. A player that "should have" gone much earlier and is still available.

Unfortunately, as we get further into the 2nd round I think many of those sliding "would be" 1st round type players get scooped up and then it's just your typical 2nd round flotsam. By the 38th pick there just aren't many (if any) left. And there isn't nearly as much competition to trade for those picks as a result.

Yeah, I was critical of the Spurs decision making yesterday but reality showed they’ve judged the market well.

Only picks 31 and 32 were traded for more value than 38.

Pick 36 was traded twice - first time for 2 seconds, however, these are 2nds Phoenix are receiving from Houston in the Durant trade. Houston didn’t have any good seconds, in fact a lot of them were of the kind ‘lesser of…’

So then during the actual draft pick 36 is traded again - for pick 45 and cash. Yikes. Then pick 41 was traded for picks 52 and 59. Give me a clean Sacramento 2nd any time over these.

Safe to say the Spurs got the 3rd best package of any second round pick that was traded.

[HankChinaski]

Yeah it's lame spurs could have brought in some value at the 4/5 for the 2nd unit. But kicking the pick down the road and getting cash back is a safe bet to make.

They must have strong targets to trade / sign to fill the holes at 4/5 once the moratorium hits

[rascal]

Should had gone for Fleming.
He was cheap, could of had him for 38 and another couple of second round future picks.

[scott]

Saw some information that Raynaud ended up going #42 to SAC because that was his preferred destination. Combine that with the other quote from the MIN GM saying that there were approximately 20 player deals before the 2nd round even started and you can start to see that the 2nd round isn’t really a draft at all, it’s just the first wave of UDFA.

Spurs have probably decided they don’t want to play that game.

[Mr. Body]

Yeah, I was critical of the Spurs decision making yesterday but reality showed they’ve judged the market well.

Only picks 31 and 32 were traded for more value than 38.

Pick 36 was traded twice - first time for 2 seconds, however, these are 2nds Phoenix are receiving from Houston in the Durant trade. Houston didn’t have any good seconds, in fact a lot of them were of the kind ‘lesser of…’

So then during the actual draft pick 36 is traded again - for pick 45 and cash. Yikes. Then pick 41 was traded for picks 52 and 59. Give me a clean Sacramento 2nd any time over these.

Safe to say the Spurs got the 3rd best package of any second round pick that was traded.

Yeah, they spotted teams bailing out and the glut of marketed picks drove the price down. At this point so many SRPs have already set things up with their agents that it's not really a draft anymore.

[LeBowen]

Feels like SRPs peaked in value during the season, with the new NIL so many potential second rounders won't enter the draft, making SRPs not as desirable.

[ChumpDumper]

Feels like SRPs peaked in value during the season, with the new NIL so many potential second rounders won't enter the draft, making SRPs not as desirable.
I suppose it will push this class and the next one or two into the future. Then 2nd round pick value should even out again as their eligibility runs out and the talent void disappears going forward -- everyone will just be older.

[spurraider21]

What happened? No pick around 38 was traded for a significant package.
36 got traded for 2 second rounders. we traded 38 for 1 :lol

[spurraider21]

I suppose it will push this class and the next one or two into the future. Then 2nd round pick value should even out again as their eligibility runs out and the talent void disappears going forward -- everyone will just be older.
true, but the second round probably is the place to take older players who may be more pro-ready in exchange for a lack of perceived upside. tyler kolek was a shining example of this last year

[ChumpDumper]

true, but the second round probably is the place to take older players who may be more pro-ready in exchange for a lack of perceived upside. tyler kolek was a shining example of this last yearI think it will be moreso in the future as more players stay in college. Less this draft and the next.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

36 got traded for 2 second rounders. we traded 38 for 1 :lol


Yeah, I was critical of the Spurs decision making yesterday but reality showed they’ve judged the market well.

Only picks 31 and 32 were traded for more value than 38.

Pick 36 was traded twice - first time for 2 seconds, however, these are 2nds Phoenix are receiving from Houston in the Durant trade. Houston didn’t have any good seconds, in fact a lot of them were of the kind ‘lesser of…’

So then during the actual draft pick 36 is traded again - for pick 45 and cash. Yikes. Then pick 41 was traded for picks 52 and 59. Give me a clean Sacramento 2nd any time over these.

Safe to say the Spurs got the 3rd best package of any second round pick that was traded.

I addressed it here. I don't think the haul for 36 was as good as ours considering what Phoenix held.

[venitian navigator]

Should had gone for Fleming.
He was cheap, could of had him for 38 and another couple of second round future picks.

Totally agree, expecially of we already had a wink wink deal with kornet agent...its Just my idea or we effectively lack a big and strong 3d Power forward ? Fleming May be limited but imho has exactly the skills we lack and Need on our roster...no One of Sochan, Barnes, Champagnie, KJ or Bryant (alas all the possibile pf players on our actual roster) have that kind of qualities...and Isee no One on the fa market with them too...

[exstatic]

Draft #1: spurs trade their second rounder(s)
ST is pissed
Ensuing season reveals gaps in the roster
Offseason discussions about draft picks and how we’ll use them
Posters get excited about potential second rounders.
Draft #2: Spurs trade their second rounder(s)
ST is pissed.

Never change, ST. You’re the modern day Charlie Brown to PATFO’s Lucy, constantly pulling away the second round football.

[venitian navigator]

Draft #1: spurs trade their second rounder(s)
ST is pissed
Ensuing season reveals gaps in the roster
Offseason discussions about draft picks and how we’ll use them
Posters get excited about potential second rounders.
Draft #2: Spurs trade their second rounder(s)
ST is pissed.

Never change, ST. You’re the modern day Charlie Brown to PATFO’s Lucy, constantly pulling away the second round football.

Idk exstatic... I'm just wondering if the FO was thinking they left something on the table... Wright interwiew gave the impression that maybe they could have done something more after number 2 (obvious choice) and the lucky 14 (they tried in vane to advance for Bryant but he fall anexpectedly on their range). You disagree on my thought that Flemings position and skills look like the stuff our roster lack?

[exstatic]

Idk exstatic... I'm just wondering if the FO was thinking they left something on the table... Wright interwiew gave the impression that maybe they could have done something more after number 2 (obvious choice) and the lucky 14 (they tried in vane to advance for Bryant but he fall anexpectedly on their range). You disagree on my thought that Flemings position and skills look like the stuff our roster lack?

IDK. Anything they may have missed out on, they made up for with CB falling to them.

[Bruno]

So, Spurs got $2.5M in cash consideration:
https://www.sportsbusinessclassroom.com/nba-available-cash-in-trade-2025-26/

For comparison, a couple of other trades featuring cash considerations and second round picks happened that night:
- #55 + $2.5M for #45
- #45 + $3.25M for #36

[sfernald]

So, Spurs got $2.5M in cash consideration:
https://www.sportsbusinessclassroom.com/nba-available-cash-in-trade-2025-26/

For comparison, a couple of other trades featuring cash considerations and second round picks happened that night:
- #55 + $2.5M for #45
- #45 + $3.25M for #36

Thabk god. I heard they going to use that cash on the new ST servers!

[ginobilized]

Thanks, Bruno!

Is there any way some of that could go toward refreshing our servers here at SpursTalk?

[ginobilized]

Thabk god. I heard they going to use that cash on the new ST servers!
Like minds here, you beat me by seconds

[Russ]

Thanks, Bruno!

Is there any way some of that could go toward refreshing our servers here at SpursTalk?

More likely the cash will go to one corner of one bathroom in the new arena.

If you're not Steve Ballmer, the journey to one billion begins with 2.5 million.

[BackHome]

I think the Spurs are following there game plan and so we might see another trade during next season or after the season. The only question who will it be “Keldon or Vassell” or maybe both, though I don’t think that will happen.

[KobesAchilles]

I think the Spurs are following there game plan and so we might see another trade during next season or after the season. The only question who will it be “Keldon or Vassell” or maybe both, though I don’t think that will happen.
The problem will be value. 2 years ago you probably could’ve gotten a FRP for KJ. Now it would be a SRP. And the same will be the risk for Vassell. This offseason he was worth a FRP, but next offseason? I actually think the Lakers would want him and would look to trade Vassell to them.

[Ariel]

The problem will be value. 2 years ago you probably could’ve gotten a FRP for KJ. Now it would be a SRP. And the same will be the risk for Vassell. This offseason he was worth a FRP, but next offseason? I actually think the Lakers would want him and would look to trade Vassell to them.
A second? I doubt you can get matching expiring. If Vassell doesn't have a good season (more efficient on offense, improvement on defense, better advanced numbers) he's going to enter negative value territory (if he isn't already there).

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

A second? I doubt you can get matching expiring. If Vassell doesn't have a good season (more efficient on offense, improvement on defense, better advanced numbers) he's going to enter negative value territory (if he isn't already there).

It’s true that the pure 2 seem to be phased out, especially if they don’t have plus size and positional flexibility. Teams nowadays prefer having either combo guards/additional ballhandlers or 3nD wings. Players like Sexton, Cam Thomas, etc are worth next to nothing and even the better ones like Monk are thrown around like thrash in trade talks.

I really like Vassell but his archetype might be less valuable going forward.

[exstatic]

It’s true that the pure 2 seem to be phased out, especially if they don’t have plus size and positional flexibility. Teams nowadays prefer having either combo guards/additional ballhandlers or 3nD wings. Players like Sexton, Cam Thomas, etc are worth next to nothing and even the better ones like Monk are thrown around like thrash in trade talks.

I really like Vassell but his archetype might be less valuable going forward.

Then you let him roll off, and don’t have to take back salary. His contract ends in 2029 as Harper’s prospective contract extension would begin

There’s also the fact that not all pieces in any given trade have value beyond making the trade work. We traded Zach Collins with no fuss at all, and people here were bitching like it was a Bradley Beal level contract.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Then you let him roll off, and don’t have to take back salary. His contract ends in 2029 as Harper’s prospective contract extension would begin

There’s also the fact that not all pieces in any given trade have value beyond making the trade work. We traded Zach Collins with no fuss at all, and people here were bitching like it was a Bradley Beal level contract.

Yeah I agree, I don’t think his contract is going to be a burden and it can be useful for salary matching, especially in a couple of years when it won’t have too many years left and as it continues to go down as percentage of the cap.