What are your Offseason worries/wishes?

[scottspurs]

Biggest worries/wishes for this draft/offseason


The West is so tough and the path for the Spurs being contenders is there but not easy. Here are my biggest worries. No particular order. Feel free to post what you worry and wish for.


Giannis gets traded to the West: this is pretty obvious. If Giannis comes west wherever he goes will make that team better in the short term.


Mavericks find a capable point guard: this team becomes scary if they find a PG. Not as worried about them right now with Kyrie being out/ineffective when he comes back next season. He may never be the same player. But if they swing a trade for let’s say a Darius Garland that’s tough. Trae Young? That would be scarier even if it does come with the bonus of improved hawks picks. Not sure they have the trade assets but still worrisome


Rockets find their PG of the future: Rockets are a super deep well rounded team with the best defense in the NBA. Led the league in rebounding. Shooting is suspect for this team but they can fix that by finding a way to get Reid Sheppard involved. I don’t see Sheppard as a lead pg though. More of a shooter that can bring the ball up if needed. Not a playmaker. Vanvleet is terrific for them but he didn’t shoot the ball well last season and is starting to show a decline in play. Amen Thompson is looking like a future star especially if he develops as a better shooter but he hasn’t really shown playmaking chops. Sure Sengun has playmaking ability but he can’t shoot and his potential is probably maxed out. If they find a PG fro the future that can be a playmaker and shoot. They will be a very tough team. Kasparas Jakucionis making it up 10 or a trade that lands them that type of player would be scary.


Thunder using their war chest: Thunder are already the top dogs in the west but if they landed another star player especially one that fits their timeline. That would be tough. The 97 first round draft picks or whatever it is amazing but you can only have 15 players on the roster. Right now I think they can be surpassed. If they add another top 15 player and have all that depth. Extremely tough.


Blazers find a Star: sure any team in the west finding a star is worrisome but I really like the way the Blazers are building their team. Very well balanced. They are missing that go to Franchise player.


Lakers blowing it up and building around Luka: with LeBron/Luka there is no path for the lakers to get better. But let’s say they part ways with LeBron. Or LeBron takes less money in pursuit of another ring. We all know these mf’s will find another star to pair with Luka. The league will force it. The current roster makes no sense. Let’s hope they try to make it the Luka/Lebron/Bronny show for several more years. They will be too far behind to catch up.


The rest of the west I’m not really worried on the Spurs timeline.


Jazz are way behind and tanking with no luck


Kings, Pelicans, Grizzlies and Suns are caught in the mediocracy treadmill


Clippers, Warriors and Nuggets are aging.


Timberwolves are also aging, yes they have Edwards but they are soon to be in cap hell with no path to get better


Out east it is getting pathetic.


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Out with the bad. In with the good. No particular order. Top wishes for this offseason:


Spurs remain patient: Giannis and other superstars added to the team would be great but let’s pump the brakes. Spurs haven’t even made the postseason yet in this new era. A time may come when a big trade makes sense but the time is not now. The price for a Giannis only goes down over time. Maybe that can be revisit come trade deadline or next offseason but if the Bucks trade him this offseason the Spurs should stay out of that sweepstakes.


Spurs keeping Cap flexibility: Speaking of patience have you seen the free agent class for next offseason. It’s stacked. Of course many of those players could sign extensions but I’m not so sure. With the new CBA and 2nd/3rd apron penalties teams may pause on max deals. Spurs would be wise to keep cap flexibility and that includes not extending De’Aaron Fox right away. I don’t think anybody does anything until Luka signs an extension. Once that happens there may be a domino effect but until then remain patient.


Rebounding: Spurs must improve their rebounding at all costs. They are bottom of the league in every rebounding category and in 2nd Chance points. It’s the Spurs biggest weakness in my eyes. Yes, it would be great to improve shooting, defense and offense. All the things but you simply can’t win in this league if you are not at least league average at rebounding. Take care of the basketball and rebounding. Teams that do that win regardless of play tempo or style.


Victor Wembanyama takes the next step: already one of the top players in this league but still alot of question marks. Priority number 1 is health. Doesn’t sound like the blood clot will be a long term issue at all but definitely hoping for a healthy season/career. Conditioning needs to be better. I’m not sure if it’s rest or more consistency with cardio training. We all know Victor works hard but something is off. Maybe because of his frame this will always be an issue but my hope is that it will get better. An improved offensive bag and better decision making. Right now Victor is a shooter, a lob threat and has a nice one/two dribble pull up game. Would love to see more dominance in the post. Would love to see him tighten his handle. Would love to see him become a better transition player. Would love to see him get to the line more. All things he definitely has the skillset to improve at. Decision making also needs to become better. Shot selection is not always the best. Down 15 or up 10 take those shots. Cool with it. In close games though the Spurs need to maximize their possessions and that starts with Victor. Leadership. Already one of the leaders of the team but I want him to take that even further. Chris Paul brought a lot of leadership and I’m glad he was there last season. More than likely he will be gone. Barnes brings some of that as well. Pop is gone. I’m hopeful for Mitch Johnson as a leader but he is still learning. Leadership needs to come from Victor. He needs to hold himself and the team accountable. Be the vocal leader and lead by example. I believe he will be up for the task and I’m excited to see that. Any championship aspirations moving forward start and end with his leadership.


Castle and Sochan improve as shooters: I’m fairly certain both of these players will be on the roster so I’m most excited about their developments. Shooting is the obvious question mark. A 3-4% bump and higher volume would be an amazing start.


Spurs hire a quality defense assistant coach: Mitch is going to implement his offensive style that is best suited for this team but he needs backup on defense. They basically need to hire a top defensive coordinator. Someone that will be in charge of that side of that ball. I’m not sure who the candidates for that are but I’m hoping the spurs find the right guy.


Spurs nail the draft: We are all fairly certain they will pick Harper at 2 but you never know with Brian Wright. He picked Vassell over Halliburton. Primo over Sengun. Sochan over JDub. Primo was only one that really hurts though. I think he is very good Gm though. My hope is for Harper at 2. Big at 14 or via trade down. Actually draft a dude at 38 instead of a guy that will agree to a two-way or being stashed. Especially in a deep draft. I think it’s possible to find a rotational player in the early 2nd round this year. I’m not opposed to trading 14 for a future unprotected 1st and a pick swap like last draft but I would rather pick someone in this deep class.


Add the right pieces in free agency/via trade: as of right now the spurs don’t have a ton of rosters spots available especially if they keep picks 2 and 14 but that could change. Branham and Wesley are expendable. Vassell, Barnes, Keldon and Champangie could be trade assets. Bassey has a non guaranteed contract and the spurs may move on because of the injury history. Mamu is a free agent. Chris Paul is a free agent. Biyomba thanks for your service but no thanks. Like I stated earlier rebounding should be the highest priority. Doubling or even tripling down on versatile bigs would be my wish. You need to be covered in case Wemby’s conditioning issues remain or worst case he gets injured. After that shooting, shooting and more shooting. Preferably of the 3 and D variety. I don’t want to go until detail on exact players because it’s too early to speculate on who will be available but rebounding, shooting, defense and versatility are my wishes.


Teams blowing it up in the West throwing assets East : I really hope more teams realize they are not going to win in the west and tear up their teams. The 2026 draft is another loaded draft especially at the top. 2026 free agency is stacked. The west is brutal. Some teams sending assets East for a tank would be nice. Teams shedding salary to position themselves for 2026 offseason would be nice. As of right now under perfect circumstances you can make a case for every team in the west making the playoffs next season. It’s so tough. James Harden opting out and going east would be awesome. Durant, Booker, Kawhi, Markkanen, Morant, Zion and Sabonis in theory could be on the move. Send them East. The east is wide open and some of those teams may buy in. I’m hoping for some western conference tear downs.


Hawks have a rough season and Celtics blow it up: out east my only wishes are for the Hawks not to get better for obvious reasons and the Celtics to blow it up. Hoping the Hawks miss on their two 1st round picks. Make some stupid trades. Sign some players that don’t fit. No offense to the hawks but be bad. I don’t want to root for injuries so the other option is they just don’t play well. I’m not talking about barely missing the playoffs bad. I’m talking about bottom of the east bad. If that happened not only would that trade swap in 2026 be looking real nice as an asset but they will probably fully blow up the team next offseason leading to the 2027 hawks 1st rising in value. I want it to be Fire Quin Snyder/Trae Young wants out level of bad. The next closet asset on the timeline for the spurs is the 2028 pick swap from the Celtics top pick protected. I want the Celtics to start a multi year rebuild. Jaylen Brown traded to another Eastern Conference team. Derrick White gone, Kornet bye. Keep Porzingus because he will be irrelevant by 2028. Tear the team down. Obviously Tatum is not going anywhere but if he has to carry a bunch of young guys and/or washed vets come 2028 that’s yet another asset if the Spurs can swap a late 1st for a pick in the 10-20 range. With the Mavericks landing Cooper Flagg the only other future assets the spurs have that could prove to be valuable are the 2030 Timberwolves pick swap if Edwards was no longer on the team or the 2031 Kings pick swap. That’s a long ways away. They also have 700 second round picks but those are more valuable in minor trades. Or as a way to build them team if you become an apron team which might happen if Harper, Castle and Wemby reach projections.


Derik Queen gets drafted by the Wizards or Nets: he is my biggest pet cat in this draft. Yeah his athleticism sucks. I still stand by him being extremely talented though. Love the player and the personality. Maybe he is not a dog when it comes to training but on the court you won’t find to many with his mentality. He wants the ball. He wants to lead. He believes in himself. He has a fun personality. Fun game. I want to see him go somewhere he can be the guy. The offensive engine. I think he could be a star. Doesn’t make sense on the Spurs anymore but want him to succeed. Definitely don’t want to deal with him in the West but I’m excited to watch him in the NBA.




I thought I would start this thread as an all encompassing worries/wish list for the off-season/draft so feel free to share your thoughts or what you would like to see happen. Even if it’s just one worry and one wish. It doesn’t even have to be Spurs related. So many different paths for the Spurs. It’s super exciting. Basketball is becoming bigger and bigger globally and I’m glad the Spurs could be the face of that moving forward.

[Spurs Homer]

Mitch Johnson either is a genius pick by Pop...

or

a bad decision and wemby's first years of his career are ruined.

That is it and that is the ball game.

*edit -

oh...and judging by his first half season - this is not going to end well- unfortunately. I will pull for him but he didn't show anything impressive IMHO.

[John B]

Whew that was a long read. I always tell my sales team, stop worrying about other people. Worry about yourself. Spurs have the potential of recreating that scary “Beautiful Game” with players approaching AS caliber, 2 already are. With Wemby hungry and probably pissed for not being in the playoffs yet after his 2nd year. Believe me, this kid is shooting for greatness. Timmy was a champion on his 2nd year, and Wemby was supposed to be the 2nd coming of Jordan/LeBron combined. He was going to be the greatest that ever played the game. So get ready for 3rd year Wemby!

Castle was freshly minted as the ROTY, and should have gotten ALL the votes. The kid is ready to prove himself as one of the best out there, already back at it at the gym. He will be stronger and will be working on his shots for hours. He gets the memo. He will be game ready come opening night.

Fox did not leave the comforts of home for nothing. He saw an opportunity to ring it with Wemby. He wouldn’t want anything less. He has the opportunity to help resurrect this proud franchise back on top. He knows he would be the lead wolf with CP3 most likely leaving. He will be ready.

I don’t expect a lot from Dylan. But with 3 caliber players around him, he can sneak in and do damage. Any other year, Dylan would’ve been the 1st pick. Guess what. Alphas have a way of proving themselves that they are indeed the number one regardless which year. Yes, I think he’ll be gunning down that ROTY trophy away from Flagg.

The thing that worries me is the FO standing pat on the rest of the roster. I expect them to evaluate the 3-guard offense but when it’s ready for tweaks and changes, I expect them to move mountains to get the right personnel to bring vets and equally coaches to make it work. Yes it’s the biggest worry, not from other organizations that Spurs don’t have control in, but being “too nice” to let go of people, cutting that weight off. I know in the long run it benefits them as that “classy” organization who takes care of its players and people. But sometimes I wish them to act tough and not be “too nice.” It’s the “Spurs way.” Standing pat is my biggest concern.

[BackHome]

I wonder who made the decision to put Mitch as head coach when Pop had his stroke? I would assume that Pop was out of it for the first two weeks after the stroke so either someone else made that decision or Pop had this planned out before stroke?

My worry is the Spurs won’t surround Mitch with people he needs to be successful as in another thread we really need a defensive coach and a ex player with Playoff experience. Would love to get JVG and Splitter as I think both would greatly help us out going forward

[mo7888]

I don't really think the West is as stacked as some do. OKC is legit, but it won't make any big moves.

Denver is good, but doesn't have enough assets to improve.

Houston is good, but doesn't have enough shooting to succeed post season. Giannis would definitely change that, but he and Amen on the court would require more shooters, which is why I think Reed doesn't go out in a trade here.

Minnesota is solid, but can't really improve with their cap situation and if they lose Naz or Randle they take a step back

GS- too old

LAL- they are what they are, but they aren't going to do anything until LeBron is gone and that money allocated to players that fit with Luka.

Clippers- another year older and deeper in debt..

So, I think we've got a real shot next year to be in that mix.

[John B]

I wonder who made the decision to put Mitch as head coach when Pop had his stroke? I would assume that Pop was out of it for the first two weeks after the stroke so either someone else made that decision or Pop had this planned out before stroke?

My worry is the Spurs won’t surround Mitch with people he needs to be successful as in another thread we really need a defensive coach and a ex player with Playoff experience. Would love to get JVG and Splitter as I think both would greatly help us out going forward

I will argue that Pop had no intention of coming down anytime soon. But his health was not letting him do it. He needed someone “temporary” at the helm, just taking orders and not making big changes. That’s why they didn’t bring in a “new” coach with his “new” ideas. Nah, it happened out of necessity. Pop still wants to be the big sheriff, “El Jefe.” The Holts are “paying gratitude.” They are not about to make changes. Besides this team is built on “continuity.” No need to reinvent something that’s already working. It would take a catastrophic failure to fire Mitch and overhaul the system.

[scott]

Probably unrealistic worry: we get cute with #2 and don't pick Harper or Flagg (should the Mavs get cute) - either by picking someone else or trading the pick

Fairly realistic worry: we decide the Power of Friendship needs more time to show us what they have

Reasonable but maybe unrealistic wish: move off of one or two of the Power of Friendship (all three is too much to ask)

Reasonable wish: surround Mitch with a team of capable assistants

Realistic wish: take one of the many good looking prospects at #14, though I won't be too upset if they trade for future picks or good vet

Wish we should all have: Good health for all our dudes

[mo7888]

Probably unrealistic worry: we get cute with #2 and don't pick Harper or Flagg (should the Mavs get cute) - either by picking someone else or trading the pick

Fairly realistic worry: we decide the Power of Friendship needs more time to show us what they have

Reasonable but maybe unrealistic wish: move off of one or two of the Power of Friendship (all three is too much to ask)

Reasonable wish: surround Mitch with a team of capable assistants

Realistic wish: take one of the many good looking prospects at #14, though I won't be too upset if they trade for future picks or good vet

Wish we should all have: Good health for all our dudes

Too much to hope for but, I'd like my roster to look something like:

Fox
Flagg/Harper (hoping Dallas gets cute)
Castle
Wemby
John Collins/Naz/Aldama
NAW
McNeely
Mamu
Barnes/ Sochan but not both
#38- Drake Powell
Middleton for Devin + future 1st

Fill in the other spots which cheap vets or projects, whichever route they prefer.

[stnick2261]

Wishes:
Trade Vassell & #38 to Brooklyn for #19 & #26

Draft Harper, Sorber, Fleming, & McNeeley

PG/SG: Fox / Castle / Harper / CP3 (coach on the court)
SF: Sochan / McNeeley / Johnson
PF: Barnes / Fleming / Mamu
C: Wemby / Sorber

Coaches: Keep CP3 to coach our guards (he'd make more money as a player than as a coach, but I'd rather him be a coach who's available as emergency backup). Add La Roche or Splitter to add "Read&React" offense to our repertoire.

[Mr. Body]

Ensure all three guards are on board with the new offense and how it will work for them. Design it to use their strengths.

Solve the rebounding issue somehow. The two big guards are good rebounders, but will need more help.

Get a good, competent big. For God's sake keep Wemby healthy but will need someone regardless.

I think the bench pieces will work themselves out. Not in a rush to trade anybody until the right moves appear.

[Ice009]

If Dallas actually wanted Harper, that could suck, as they could bluff the Spurs and try and fleece them to let the Spurs draft Flagg at number 1. There's no reason for Dallas to take Harper at number 1 without at least trying to fleece the Spurs first.

[spurs10]

Realistic wish: take one of the many good looking prospects at #14, though I won't be too upset if they trade for future picks or good vet

Wish we should all have: Good health for all our dudes
This is what I'm thinking about mostly, as I can't see us 'getting cute' and see Harper in a Spurs uniform. Whichever big we get is vital.

[spurs10]

If Dallas actually wanted Harper, that could suck, as they could bluff the Spurs and try and fleece them to let the Spurs draft Flagg at number 1. There's no reason for Dallas to take Harper at number 1 without at least trying to fleece the Spurs first. They would have to really want Harper and would indeed 'fleece' the Spurs in the process.

[LeBowen]

First priority should be getting a reliable backup rim protector.
We're just hopeless whenever Wemby sits. I actually felt like our bench was decent in a lot of games last season, but most of it was undone by zero rim protection.

I know Spurs still rate them, but I hope at least one of Devin/Keldon is gone. Keldon is obviously a better locker room presence and has better mentality, but if we're to play with three ball-dominant guards, he's redundant.
At some point Spurs will have to let go.

Jeremy can't get an extension this summer unless it's something dirt cheap.

Hopefully we hit with that #14 pick, either with a big forward or a backup big.

[KobesAchilles]

I wish we get Giannis and a new coaching staff

[Fireball]

I only worry about Wemby's health.

I wish for us to get better and become a playoff team next season.

[exstatic]

If Dallas actually wanted Harper, that could suck, as they could bluff the Spurs and try and fleece them to let the Spurs draft Flagg at number 1. There's no reason for Dallas to take Harper at number 1 without at least trying to fleece the Spurs first.

I think the minute they call and say that they’ll talk about swapping for Flagg, that’s a huge ‘tell’ that they want Harper. The Spurs saw Ainge fleece Philly, and would be aware of the scam. If they want Harper, they can draft him. If not, SA can draft him, with a small chance that Dallas really wants Harper and you might get the swap for Flagg free.

[Mr. Body]

If Dallas actually wanted Harper, that could suck, as they could bluff the Spurs and try and fleece them to let the Spurs draft Flagg at number 1. There's no reason for Dallas to take Harper at number 1 without at least trying to fleece the Spurs first.

Would probably try, but I don't see how they fleece them. Pretty easy to read through: "oh, you're trying to get Harper instead of Flagg, just take Harper, go ahead."

[exstatic]

Would probably try, but I don't see how they fleece them. Pretty easy to read through: "oh, you're trying to get Harper instead of Flagg, just take Harper, go ahead."

They don’t dare trade back any further, or risk getting neither. You don’t have to openly call their bluff, and in fact playing along with trade scenarios for a while before bowing out might benefit us.

[BacktoBasics]

I’m open to just about anything but Giannis. Hard pass unless it’s some weird fleecing. I do not want to see all our assets depleted and us coming off Castle or Harper for a guy on the wrong side of 30.

[itzsoweezee]

The spurs need size and shooting. My worry is that they do nothing to address either of those glaring holes.

My other worry is the Spurs go too conservative and not understand the ramifications of the new CBA. The 10+ year dynasty days are over. San Antonio needs to prepare for several shorter runs at championships all centered around maximizing a once in a lifetime player like wemby

[Bruno]

Spurs aren't good enough to worrying about other teams.

My main worry is that Fox, Castle and Harper don't fit together. They might work well but their fit isn't obvious. What make is more worrying is that it will be up to Mitch to deal with that complex issue. He is inexperienced and hasn't been great in his first year.

Aside of that, Spurs really start to be a talented team and Wright has made quite good moves lately, Spurs' future looks bright.

[RC_Drunkford]

My wishlist is long:

-our players miraculously learn how to box out

-Mitch is actually a genius and the top 2 offense by the end of the season wasn't a fluke. Spurs become a top 10 offense

-Nailing the draft: Spurs draft Harper, one big man and one 3-and-D forward and sign all 3 to NBA contracts

-Somehow Brian Wright manages again to pick up a capable role player and a swap by helping teams to get under the 2nd apron

-We trade for a starting PF without giving up a first round pick. My favorite options: 1. PJ Washington 2. John Collins

-We sign a back up C in free agency (Kornet, Adams)

-Fox extends for less than the max. Maybe he takes 25% of the cap instead of 30%, giving us more wiggle room in the future.

-CP3, Bassey and Biyombo are gone

-Castle and Sochan become 3-point shooters

-Vassell learns how to play defense and looks like 2023/24 Vassell on offense

-Keldon, Branham and Wesley get traded

-Spurs add assistants to the coaching staff from outside of the organization


-OKC doesn't make any upgrades because that's what Presti does

-Houston makes a trade for a star player who's not good enough winning them a title and get rid of most of their assets and young core

-the Lakers trade another future pick for a mediocre center so Luka can throw lobs

[RC_Drunkford]

Worries:

-Mitch is an even bigger idiot than over the hill Pop

-Spurs trade #14 for a pick in 2032

-Wemby keeps shooting 10 3s per game

-our players still don't box out and grab rebounds

-Sochan gets a 100 million dollar extension

-we run back the same roster + Harper

[Extra Stout]

Worries:

Spurs do nothing to address the lack of defense and rebounding

The Power of Friendship endures

[Light]

Offseason wish:
Draft Harper and sign Malik Beasley, Jake LaRavia, and Luke Kornet

Spurs would then have a base 10-man rotation of:

fox, harper
castle, beasley
champ, laravia
barnes, sochan
wemby, kornet

with Vassell and Johnson being on the trading block for a starting PF (J Collins?)

use picks 14 and 38 however you see fit

[OldMan88]

Wemby being a finesse franchise big, I truly feel we need an enforcer/gorilla big that’s willing to inflict damage on any opposing player that cheap shots Wemby.

[Mal]

I worry Spurs will draft Harper and then they will spend whole season looking how make Fox, Harper, Vassell, Castle work.

[The Truth #6]

Upgrade the coaching support staff. But likely wishful thinking.

[ambchang]

Wish the spurs will provide a clear vision of what the team will be and decide on the components and roles required.

Get a bunch of development staff and develop the required skills.

Decide whether the existing players can develop those skills or ship them out for players that have/can develop those skills.

[TDomination]

Not focusing on fixing the rebounding issue is my concern. Rebounding is so crucial, and we are terrible at it. It’s such a fundamental aspect, if we can’t rebound it truly doesn’t matter how good we are in other parts of the game.

[tonight...you]

I worry about the development staff.
I worry about Mitch being rigid with his rook instead of going for it and seeing what happens.
I worry about the FO not being more aggressive and not do things that might make the team uncomfortable, but it's for the better like trading popular faces for better fits and so forth.
I worry about Pop being El Jefe (although I am totally buying that shirt) and giving bad advice from a place that ownership says "Okay".

I worry about Wemby's health and that's not about the clot. It's just a general worry about someone with spider limbs and not a lot of musculature to protect them.

My wishes are basically the opposite remarks of my worries, to simplify this post.

[CorrectCrusader]

Mitch Johnson either is a genius pick by Pop...

or

a bad decision and wemby's first years of his career are ruined.

That is it and that is the ball game.

*edit -

oh...and judging by his first half season - this is not going to end well- unfortunately. I will pull for him but he didn't show anything impressive IMHO.

Y'all seriously overrate the importance of head coaches. The most they do is lineups, and I don't think we'll have to worry about Wesley or Branham getting minutes any time soon.

[cd021]

Worries:

-The Spurs getting the second pick, weirdly screwed up their roster plans. They pretty much have to take Harper given his age, talent and potential. Them not trading him probably forecloses on a Giannis trade and creates a log jam on the perimeter.

-Aforementioned log jam, would probably mean that Harper doesn't get a lot of minutes.

-Even if Harper does start, I'm concerned about the spacing, more than ever. Even if they draft a shooter at 14 or sign one how would they even get minutes?

-A lack of shooting could a death-knell for the team ceiling long-term.

-Still not fully sold on Sochan. If he doesn't become a good shooter this season, then what is he? An undersized center who can defend well on the perimeter, crash the glass and finish well at the rim? That's not un-useful but I don't think he and Wembanyama can consistently play together so that would pretty much limit him to like 20 minutes a game.

-Wembanyama becoming a legit stretch five is great but still want him to be able to consistently score in the paint. We haven't really seen that yet.

[tbdog]

Good topic.

My worries is the spurs being too conservative on this offseason. You don't need to trade for Giannis or Durant, but there is salary you can use for upgrades.

[Spurs Homer]

Y'all seriously overrate the importance of head coaches. The most they do is lineups, and I don't think we'll have to worry about Wesley or Branham getting minutes any time soon.

disagree

all you have to do is look at rick carlisle at indiana…carlisle in dallas…
wherever he goes he turns that team into a contender…

look at udoka…winning consistently at boston and now at houston…

And others…

there is more to it than just throwing out a starting five and calling timeouts…
pop in his prime was a huge reason for the spurs titles…

[Arguendo]

I wonder who made the decision to put Mitch as head coach when Pop had his stroke? I would assume that Pop was out of it for the first two weeks after the stroke so either someone else made that decision or Pop had this planned out before stroke?

My worry is the Spurs won’t surround Mitch with people he needs to be successful as in another thread we really need a defensive coach and a ex player with Playoff experience. Would love to get JVG and Splitter as I think both would greatly help us out going forward
My worry is Pop is still fully in charge, everyone in the Org/Operations side is there without question because of Pop put them there and fully deferring to him. He chose Mitch, first as an assistant, then as the go to/in waiting (likely plan in place before the stroke).
I'm worried the org, including the SSE ownership/Holts, don't really understand Pops condition because its a personal matter, Pops private...Bess Truman is running the fucking show. One of the hallmarks of strokes is often the patient/affected person does not have insight into their condition.

Pop quite literally built the Spurs under Holt ownership.- Timeline for those that don't remember or know
91-92' Pop was here on Larry Brown staff as an assistant coach
McCombs fired Brown (and staff including Pop), McCombs sells, Holts bring Pop in as GM.
David is incredible reg season guy, generally great in POs but often has lil or no help.
Spurs win 55-60+ games a yr, but fall to Barkley, Stockton/Malone, Hakeem/Drexler. Pop as GM does very little to get DR help. Gets Elliot back for nothing after a terrible yr in Det, but sells (totally headcase/suicidal) Rodman still the best rebounder/top5 D-er for Will Perdue. But like not drafting Senguin, that leads to the triple towers, Timmy, best sports run in history.

Pop runs every aspect of the Spurs from '99 on, dominates sports in a way no small market team has any business doing (and should've won more, f-ing .3/Fisher, tip of the Hat to Dirk/Jet on '05, Timmy's foot, f-ing Ray Allen!!!-- but thanks Suns bench for the freebie in '07 cuz that 7 sec team had our number).
Spurs find and/or develop gem after gem, Pop rightly gives Timmy (and implicitly DR) every bit of credit for 2 decades.
Spurs finally start getting FAs. Manu's still around, no interest in ever getting credit. Spurs pluck Dejounte, have Kawhi and Aldridge & Danny even Pau, KA and Davis look liked NBA players...Manu's spirit and Timmy's D were heart of beautiful game, but damn, we can keep this going. Pop's got this. He's getting stars or former stars that want to play beautiful.

Then Pops starts believing his hype. Uncle gets blame, but no way Pop's ego wasn't a huge factor with Kawhi. Just no way. Pop treated Kawhi like garbage, never gave him his dues, never came close to giving him George Hill love. Spurs past decade looks a lot different if Pop treated Kawhi like Hill, but he treated him like a 19y/o Tony...but this time without Timmy and Manu and when Kawhi was a massive part of '14 ('13) and clearly the future. And autistic Kawhi was not Tony. He needed love.

Post-Timmy Pop is now unconstrained. Pop fully integrates and KNOWS he's the best coach ever, he's the best executive ever. His side-line interview schtick becomes reality. TD/Tony/Manu are gone, but he's got 5 'ships- He won 5...He did it. Pop did it. That past generation was the beautiful game, know your f-ing place Kawhi. Danny Green knows his, Patty knows his.

Basketball no longer appears to be important, certainly not top-of-mind. Non-basketball issues dominate, why are you asking about basketball at a basketball press conference, we have world events to discuss. Attitude very much appears to be "I'm the best, I've proven it, why are you even talking basketball". Development stops, success stops.

But we can't question it. The beautiful game was amazing. In '13 & '14 (and at all times before), all credit was given by Pop to Timmy/DR/Tony/Manu for crediting it, putting ego aside to develop and produce it. By 2020- it was Pop. I did that, I built this.

He did, he built this. The entire organization is his guys, company men. Loyal men. Loyal. Don't question, Pop's got it. Pop got you here, Pop's got it.
Pop told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was his final, most essential command. That's were we are. Don't expect quality decisions from the stroke guy or his acolytes. Hope for the best, expect the worst.
He's Joe Paterno, its clear he will never walk away willingly. He's got too much politics to discuss, fuck basketball. Be happy for what I built (but what DR/Timmy/Manu actually built and Chip and all those other assistants developed). I've always loved Pop, past tense. The fact he's still president is gross, but his brain ischemia and ego won't let him acknowledge it. Pop did have it before his ego took over, when he properly credited David for setting the tone, Timmy for bringing the greatness, Manu and Tony for wholly accepting their roles and growing only into open sunlight. Kawhi had nothing but sunshine, a championship(s) to win without Timmy, but Pop's ego took over, it needed all of the sunshine. That's the same guy today, he needs the sun, all of it. His ego is bigger than Wemby is long. I expect the worse, just hoping he goes before he makes Wemby is the next Kawhi.

[timtonymanu]

Worries: the front office overvaluing the friendship crew. Gotta trade at least 1 of them (preferably Vassell).

Wishes: getting more 3 and D players.

[Ocotillo]

Bess Truman is running the fucking show

Not going to debate your post, I just wanted to nitpick it was Woodrow Wilson that was president and had a stroke and his wife ran interference for him, not Harry Truman.

[CGD]

HOPES: we bring in 2 seasoned vets, including someone to help Wemby defensively (Lopez; Capella)

WORRIES: making a bad tradedown move during the draft.

[Trueblood]

I’m open to just about anything but Giannis. Hard pass unless it’s some weird fleecing. I do not want to see all our assets depleted and us coming off Castle or Harper for a guy on the wrong side of 30.

This. I read an article the other day from a bucks beat writer. The title was something like “the spurs may want Giannis, but they’re not going to want what it takes to get him.” He explicitly states that (in his opinion) Milwaukee won’t give him up for less than #2, #14, ATL 27 FRP, another future spurs FRP, Castle, and whatever young players (specifically identifying Vassell, Johnson, and Sochan) it takes to make salaries match. I don’t think they could ever get that, but I don’t think it’s far off from what they would be asking for. Let Miami, LA, or Houston mortgage their future, we shouldn’t even be entertaining it.

[mo7888]

This. I read an article the other day from a bucks beat writer. The title was something like “the spurs may want Giannis, but they’re not going to want what it takes to get him.” He explicitly states that (in his opinion) Milwaukee won’t give him up for less than #2, #14, ATL 27 FRP, another future spurs FRP, Castle, and whatever young players (specifically identifying Vassell, Johnson, and Sochan) it takes to make salaries match. I don’t think they could ever get that, but I don’t think it’s far off from what they would be asking for. Let Miami, LA, or Houston mortgage their future, we shouldn’t even be entertaining it.

Then they'll end up either having a disgruntled star or moving him for veteran players elsewhere

[CGD]

This. I read an article the other day from a bucks beat writer. The title was something like “the spurs may want Giannis, but they’re not going to want what it takes to get him.” He explicitly states that (in his opinion) Milwaukee won’t give him up for less than #2, #14, ATL 27 FRP, another future spurs FRP, Castle, and whatever young players (specifically identifying Vassell, Johnson, and Sochan) it takes to make salaries match. I don’t think they could ever get that, but I don’t think it’s far off from what they would be asking for. Let Miami, LA, or Houston mortgage their future, we shouldn’t even be entertaining it.

That sounds interesting and all, but this story still has a long way to go. Giannis still has to communicate what he wants, including what the consequences are to an acquiring teams if he doesnt like the destination (e.g., Nets). That will obviously scope down the teams and the demands to a point.

[CorrectCrusader]

disagree

all you have to do is look at rick carlisle at indiana…carlisle in dallas…
wherever he goes he turns that team into a contender…

look at udoka…winning consistently at boston and now at houston…

And others…

there is more to it than just throwing out a starting five and calling timeouts…
pop in his prime was a huge reason for the spurs titles…

Both of those teams you mentioned have an elite roster

[Trueblood]

That sounds interesting and all, but this story still has a long way to go. Giannis still has to communicate what he wants, including what the consequences are to an acquiring teams if he doesnt like the destination (e.g., Nets). That will obviously scope down the teams and the demands to a point.

You’re right. He could really hamstring them if he chooses to and there’s still a lot more to play out. But based on early indications it doesn’t sound like he wants to bend the winds of favor in the spurs direction. Early reports were he wanted NY, LA, or Miami. Recently he was asked what his favorite cities were to travel to for away games and he wrote back “Florida teams”. I guess we’ll see how it plays out, but it doesn’t sound like he’s pulling a Fox for us.

[Spurs Homer]

Both of those teams you mentioned have an elite roster


no

carlisle arrived and began or at least was part of building the roster...allowing unknowns like nembhard, nesmith and others and facilitating a way to land siakam in a trade, etc...is part of being a winning coach
...i admit i dont know all the inner workings of how the pacers are contending today - but wherever carlisle goes - he builds a roster of guys who always torch the spurs and makes the playoffs wherever he goes...

both udoka and carlisle had some key pieces but imagine what either of those would do with wemby/castle/fox

i know they arent going anywhere - but mitch johnson is not in that league and we can all hope pop made a genius move and mitch is the next great coaching find...

[spursparker9]

My only wish: Wemby stay healthy.

That's all I am asking for

[Chomag]

Still need a legit enforcer type vet like a Kevin Willlis type like that we had during some championship runs , especially to be a contrast to Wemby's finesse playstyle. Like a " respected" bruiser to come in and intimidate stronger players that are trying to bully Wemby around the court.

How happy is Steven Adam's with Houston right now? He would fit that mold perfectly

[scott]

You’re right. He could really hamstring them if he chooses to and there’s still a lot more to play out. But based on early indications it doesn’t sound like he wants to bend the winds of favor in the spurs direction. Early reports were he wanted NY, LA, or Miami. Recently he was asked what his favorite cities were to travel to for away games and he wrote back “Florida teams”. I guess we’ll see how it plays out, but it doesn’t sound like he’s pulling a Fox for us.

Unlike what we've seen of late when stars want trades, I think Giannis will be a good partner with MIL in finding his next home. I don't think Giannis has any animosity towards MIL, and has shown significant loyalty towards MIL in the past. He'll probably work with MIL on a reasonable list of acceptable cities and help them maximize their return.

Or... maybe not. Who knows.

[TD 21]

Y'all seriously overrate the importance of head coaches. The most they do is lineups, and I don't think we'll have to worry about Wesley or Branham getting minutes any time soon.

According to the angry mob, some are geniuses who have discovered plutonium while others are idiots who know less than their miserable, in need of anger management asses.



Worries:

-The Spurs getting the second pick, weirdly screwed up their roster plans. They pretty much have to take Harper given his age, talent and potential. Them not trading him probably forecloses on a Giannis trade and creates a log jam on the perimeter.

Yeah and their reactions conveyed as much. You almost can't trade the consensus most desirable archetype (sizable offensive "engine" and Harper Jr. comes off as their type too) for anything short of Antetokounmpo (I don't see it happening), but by doing so they'll create an awkward at best and toxic at worst situation.

[ginobilized]

Wishes:
Pick Harper, unless the insane miracle of Flagg presents itself.
Roster improvement at the F and C positions with 2-3 of Steven Adams, Luke Kornet, Santi Aldama, Naz Reid, Dean Wade, John Collins and/or Jake LaRavia being the prime targets. Cappella, Mo Wagner, or Brook Lopez as 2nd tier C options.
Adding coaching staff. Not sure why Spurs have 3 coaches on their staff and most teams have 8 or more. That's kind of odd.
Mitch steps into this new role with a surprising amount of vision, presence and savvy.
Pop transitions gracefully and masterfully as a FO presence.

Worries:
That 2-5 of the above are not addressed satisfactorily.

[Dverde]

My worries is if Braun is 30M what is the number for Sochan

https://x.com/thedunkcentral/status/1924459246952878250?s=46

[spurraider21]

an anticipated 30m/year extension for Braun is a perfect encapsulation of why the Nuggets have slowly deteriorated since winning their chip

[scott]

According to the angry mob, some are geniuses who have discovered plutonium while others are idiots who know less than their miserable, in need of anger management asses.


Weird, because I only know of the one poster who once got so mad he "retired" from a message board only to come back and claim he forgot it ever happened.

[KobesAchilles]

My worries is if Braun is 30M what is the number for Sochan

https://x.com/thedunkcentral/status/1924459246952878250?s=46
Half of that if he is lucky.

[exstatic]

an anticipated 30m/year extension for Braun is a perfect encapsulation of why the Nuggets have slowly deteriorated since winning their chip
They’re not going to pay him that because no one else will.

[mo7888]

They’re not going to pay him that because no one else will.

Pretty sure he thought Reaves was gonna get $100M too

[tbdog]

Braun started and out played MJP. He deserves an extension. Sochan no playoff appearance. Who knows if he can start let alone finish a playoff game

[CGD]

My worries is if Braun is 30M what is the number for Sochan

https://x.com/thedunkcentral/status/1924459246952878250?s=46

I think this is pretty specific to Denver. They really have no way of improving their roster bc of MPJ's deal, so they kinda have to overpay their own players.

[scott]

Instead of pre-emptively giving Christian Braun $30MM/yr (:lol btw tbqh), this seems like a perfect case of just letting him hit RFA and matching whatever other offers he got (which will probably be none because other teams won't want to tie themselves up with an offer sheet they'll know will get matched) and then just end up signing him to an Austin Reeves-like 4 year deal at 9% of the cap (notable that Reaves was and is still better than Braun at the time of the deal).

crofl if Denver does this

edit: this is what we should do with Sochan, btw

[Dverde]

My worry is the Nuggs overpay Braun and Spurs overpay Sochan because of it.

[spurraider21]

Instead of pre-emptively giving Christian Braun $30MM/yr (:lol btw tbqh), this seems like a perfect case of just letting him hit RFA and matching whatever other offers he got (which will probably be none because other teams won't want to tie themselves up with an offer sheet they'll know will get matched) and then just end up signing him to an Austin Reeves-like 4 year deal at 9% of the cap (notable that Reaves was and is still better than Braun at the time of the deal).

crofl if Denver does this

edit: this is what we should do with Sochan, btw
Reaves was a much better RFA than Braun is, and he was never signed to an offer sheet :lol

100% agreed as to sochan. they only way extending sochan makes sense is if it is a very favorable, team friendly deal, which sochan would be pretty dumb to take. it would be the type of deal that he's better off turning down, betting on himself to show growth in his age 22 season, and then being able to leverage that into a bigger offer, whether it be an offer sheet or having the spurs signing him outright before he's able to test the waters

basically it would take sochan deciding that maximizing earnings be damned, he likes san antonio and wants to be here for the wemby era

[Ice009]

Still need a legit enforcer type vet like a Kevin Willlis type like that we had during some championship runs , especially to be a contrast to Wemby's finesse playstyle. Like a " respected" bruiser to come in and intimidate stronger players that are trying to bully Wemby around the court.

How happy is Steven Adam's with Houston right now? He would fit that mold perfectly

Yep. Steven Adams is the guy I want. Interesting that you brought up Kevin Willis who I really liked in 2003, but I think in 2004 he wasn't as good, and also, I think was responsible for Devin Brown injuring his back late in the season as I remember reading that he was wresting him or something.

Anyway, I just wanted to say, Tony Massenburg was the guy I was thinking of rather than Kevin Willis when thinking of an enforcer. T-Mass would come out there in the 2005 season when the Spurs were up 20 and lay wood on guys. Play very physical and keep that lead. It seemed like players would say to him during some games to calm down a bit as he was just playing super hard all the time being very physical with the other team. I wish he came back for the 2005/06 season as I think he could have made a difference against the Mavs with the Spurs not having to play small ball the whole series IMO. I remember Timvp said he (Tony Massenburg) got into a car accident and couldn't play the following season otherwise he would have been back. Tony is the last really good true enforcer I remember the Spurs having (not sure if I am missing/forgetting about someone that came after), and I've always wanted the Spurs to get a similar player ever since.

I think Steven Adams will be the same physical presence as Tony Massenburg (I'm comparing them physicality wise as Steven Adams is definitely the better overall player, so that would be a bonus) was the 2004/05 season. Adams won't shit from anyone, play hard and physical, and in my opinion will help maintain leads rather than lose them.

Having said that, not sure if Adams will be asking for more money than the Spurs would be willing to spend so guys like Kornet might be the better option, but I don't think he's as physical? I haven't watch Kornet play much, though, so I don't know how he is physicality wise. I'm guessing nowhere near Adams on that front?



Yeah and their reactions conveyed as much. You almost can't trade the consensus most desirable archetype (sizable offensive "engine" and Harper Jr. comes off as their type too) for anything short of Antetokounmpo (I don't see it happening), but by doing so they'll create an awkward at best and toxic at worst situation.

Are you saying if the keep the number 2 pick it's create a awkward or toxic situation? If so, I disagree. At best it could be amazing, not awkward. Or are you talking about trading for Antetokounmpo?

[Robz4000]

I offer Sochan the Keldon extension with a team option after the third season, and if he doesn't take it just let things play out tbh.

[R. DeMurre]

Nice post, but I'm not sure I'd call Denver an aging team. Jokic is still squarely in his prime and just took OKC to 7 games with two injured starters. Honestly if Braun, Strawther, Pickett, and DaRon Holmes all just take a small step forward in development, Murray, Gordon, and Porter Jr stay healthy, and they add one reasonably decent free agent with the MLE (LaRavia, Nance Jr), I think they'll be ready to compete for a championship.

[OldMan88]

I remember when Shaq fouled Tim (or maybe David) so hard he had to leave the game. Pop sent Felton Spencer into the game in response and Shaq was immediately pulled by his coach & sat the rest of the game cause Felton fully intended to lay Shaq out & Shaq knew it.

[RC_Drunkford]

Nice post, but I'm not sure I'd call Denver an aging team. Jokic is still squarely in his prime and just took OKC to 7 games with two injured starters. Honestly if Braun, Strawther, Pickett, and DaRon Holmes all just take a small step forward in development, Murray, Gordon, and Porter Jr stay healthy, and they add one reasonably decent free agent with the MLE (LaRavia, Nance Jr), I think they'll be ready to compete for a championship.

there is no MLE for them, they will be in the tax cause Murray‘s max contract kicks in next season

[scott]

Almost forgot this in my original wish list:

I wish for the Spurs to stop finding people off Fiverr and hire an actual graphic designer to do the Alternate and City Edition jerseys this year. We have one of the highest potential design schemes in the league but still find a way to deliver a bottom 3 set of uniforms as of late.

[exstatic]

Almost forgot this in my original wish list:

I wish for the Spurs to stop finding people off Fiverr and hire an actual graphic designer to do the Alternate and City Edition jerseys this year. We have one of the highest potential design schemes in the league but still find a way to deliver a bottom 3 set of uniforms as of late.

No more brown and orange trim HemisFair themed unis.

[Ice009]

No more brown and orange trim HemisFair themed unis.

What do those brown and orange trim colours signify? I've been meaning to ask, but never got around to it.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Lack of quality bigs and lack of good shooters. Also, our 3 point defense is brutal.

[R. DeMurre]

there is no MLE for them, they will be in the tax cause Murray‘s max contract kicks in next season

oh shit, you’re right. I thought they had an avenue to get under the tax line, but it looks like that’s extremely unlikely.

[The Truth #6]

What do those brown and orange trim colours signify? I've been meaning to ask, but never got around to it.

I think it's a reference to the 1968 Hemisfair World's Fair and/or an homage to Bill Miller BBQ.

[Ice009]

I think it's a reference to the 1968 Hemisfair World's Fair and/or an homage to Bill Miller BBQ.

Cool. I'll have to do some googling as I don't know what either of those things are (I'm not in SA or the US). That makes it more interesting if it's based on something from that long ago.

[ace3g]

https://x.com/BobbyMarks42/status/1925288018979484130

[cd021]

Yeah and their reactions conveyed as much. You almost can't trade the consensus most desirable archetype (sizable offensive "engine" and Harper Jr. comes off as their type too) for anything short of Antetokounmpo (I don't see it happening), but by doing so they'll create an awkward at best and toxic at worst situation.

I get it for the Spurs; you can't turn down found money. Though Harper might not play big minutes a rookie unless they make a smaller trade to clear out the log jam or they cut Vassell's minutes or bring him off the bench.

I'm worried the Spurs just sign a couple of vets and call it a summer and then struggle with a weird roster until the trade deadline.

[scottspurs]

Just a reminder where the spurs ranked last season in key stat categories

San Antonio SpursSouthwest Division
Team Info & Stats






Stat
rank
spurs
league avg


Team Bench Points per Game (https://radar360.sportradar.com/nba/reports/3b081680-aa77-11ee-9b2a-fbb5c8aae8ca?778fd420-2ef5-11e8-af3a-37d0bee476b0=2024)
1
44.1
35.5


Opp. FTA Per Game (https://radar360.sportradar.com/nba/reports/becb5980-c929-11e8-865f-af54ac5e9936?778fd420-2ef5-11e8-af3a-37d0bee476b0=2024)
3
18.5
21.7


Blocks Per Game (https://radar360.sportradar.com/nba/reports/7295c790-c92d-11e8-8f6a-b17c0bda1166?778fd420-2ef5-11e8-af3a-37d0bee476b0=2024)
4
5.5
4.9


Assists Per Game (https://radar360.sportradar.com/nba/reports/8cfa69a0-c92e-11e8-8f6a-b17c0bda1166?778fd420-2ef5-11e8-af3a-37d0bee476b0=2024)
6
28.6
26.5


3PA Per Game (https://radar360.sportradar.com/nba/reports/63d5aa10-dd1c-11e8-9c28-570a4b4507de?778fd420-2ef5-11e8-af3a-37d0bee476b0=2024)
7
39.6
37.6


Opp. Blocks Per Game (https://radar360.sportradar.com/nba/reports/efb26f80-c92d-11e8-8f6a-b17c0bda1166?778fd420-2ef5-11e8-af3a-37d0bee476b0=2024)
7
4.3
4.9


3PM Per Game (https://radar360.sportradar.com/nba/reports/ef8b2810-dd1b-11e8-9c28-570a4b4507de?778fd420-2ef5-11e8-af3a-37d0bee476b0=2024)
9
14.1
13.5


Fast Break Points Per Game (https://radar360.sportradar.com/nba/reports/348e38e0-6707-11eb-99e1-07bad8e110a9?778fd420-2ef5-11e8-af3a-37d0bee476b0=2024)
10
16.1
15.5


Turnovers Per Game (https://radar360.sportradar.com/nba/reports/c67b7b60-c92e-11e8-8f6a-b17c0bda1166?778fd420-2ef5-11e8-af3a-37d0bee476b0=2024)
10
13.9
14.3


Steals Per Game (https://radar360.sportradar.com/nba/reports/4c692d40-c92e-11e8-865f-af54ac5e9936?778fd420-2ef5-11e8-af3a-37d0bee476b0=2024)
12
8.2
8.2


Opp. Steals Per Game (https://radar360.sportradar.com/nba/reports/817f58e0-c930-11e8-865f-af54ac5e9936?778fd420-2ef5-11e8-af3a-37d0bee476b0=2024)
15t
8.1
8.2


2PT% (https://radar360.sportradar.com/nba/reports/931c6080-c92a-11e8-865f-af54ac5e9936?778fd420-2ef5-11e8-af3a-37d0bee476b0=2024)
15
.551
.545


Best Record - One-Possession Games (https://radar360.sportradar.com/nba/reports/33c72f20-5e39-11ea-b11c-e58a9ee0ed6b?778fd420-2ef5-11e8-af3a-37d0bee476b0=2024)
16t
.500
.500


Team Points per Game (https://radar360.sportradar.com/nba/reports/995c4290-5cf7-11eb-9199-ed002ba9e83a?778fd420-2ef5-11e8-af3a-37d0bee476b0=2024)
16
113.9
113.8


FG% (https://radar360.sportradar.com/nba/reports/69688500-c84b-11e8-9719-97e053d31dff?778fd420-2ef5-11e8-af3a-37d0bee476b0=2024)
17
.465
.467


Turnover Differential per Game (https://radar360.sportradar.com/nba/reports/c0fecc50-5cfc-11eb-8482-75364efb27b0?778fd420-2ef5-11e8-af3a-37d0bee476b0=2024)
17
-0.2
0.0


Offensive Rebounds Per Game (https://radar360.sportradar.com/nba/reports/fcb9be30-c92e-11e8-865f-af54ac5e9936?778fd420-2ef5-11e8-af3a-37d0bee476b0=2024)
17
10.9
11.1


Points in the Paint Per Game (https://radar360.sportradar.com/nba/reports/8109b0a0-6707-11eb-99e1-07bad8e110a9?778fd420-2ef5-11e8-af3a-37d0bee476b0=2024)
18
47.8
49.0


True Shooting % (https://radar360.sportradar.com/nba/reports/90e0c4d0-4d0b-11ea-b4ad-41e5e9899a7b?778fd420-2ef5-11e8-af3a-37d0bee476b0=2024)
19
.575
.576


Rebounds Per Game (https://radar360.sportradar.com/nba/reports/a55b4c70-c92f-11e8-8f6a-b17c0bda1166?778fd420-2ef5-11e8-af3a-37d0bee476b0=2024)
19
43.7
44.1


3PT% (https://radar360.sportradar.com/nba/reports/1b1750f0-c84d-11e8-b78f-3586eea95558?778fd420-2ef5-11e8-af3a-37d0bee476b0=2024)
20
.357
.360


FTA Per Game (https://radar360.sportradar.com/nba/reports/c3ca4cd0-c928-11e8-865f-af54ac5e9936?778fd420-2ef5-11e8-af3a-37d0bee476b0=2024)
21
21.0
21.7


Point Differential Per Game (https://radar360.sportradar.com/nba/reports/4631a4d0-c92d-11e8-8f6a-b17c0bda1166?778fd420-2ef5-11e8-af3a-37d0bee476b0=2024)
21
-2.8
0.0


FT% (https://radar360.sportradar.com/nba/reports/fc5dfbe0-c929-11e8-865f-af54ac5e9936?778fd420-2ef5-11e8-af3a-37d0bee476b0=2024)
21
.774
.780


Defensive Rebounds Per Game (https://radar360.sportradar.com/nba/reports/276bcb80-c92c-11e8-8f6a-b17c0bda1166?778fd420-2ef5-11e8-af3a-37d0bee476b0=2024)
21
32.7
33.0


Opp. 2PT% (https://radar360.sportradar.com/nba/reports/c7689750-c92a-11e8-865f-af54ac5e9936?778fd420-2ef5-11e8-af3a-37d0bee476b0=2024)
23
.554
.545


Opp. Assists Per Game (https://radar360.sportradar.com/nba/reports/e5789be0-c930-11e8-865f-af54ac5e9936?778fd420-2ef5-11e8-af3a-37d0bee476b0=2024)
23
28.0
26.5


Opp. Points Per Game (https://radar360.sportradar.com/nba/reports/a8181070-c848-11e8-b78f-3586eea95558?778fd420-2ef5-11e8-af3a-37d0bee476b0=2024)
23
116.7
113.8


Opp. FG% (https://radar360.sportradar.com/nba/reports/2d334860-c84e-11e8-b78f-3586eea95558?778fd420-2ef5-11e8-af3a-37d0bee476b0=2024)
24
.474
.467


Opp. 3PT% (https://radar360.sportradar.com/nba/reports/4df72f00-c928-11e8-865f-af54ac5e9936?778fd420-2ef5-11e8-af3a-37d0bee476b0=2024)
24
.365
.360


2nd Chance Points Per Game (https://radar360.sportradar.com/nba/reports/65dfa640-6707-11eb-99e1-07bad8e110a9?778fd420-2ef5-11e8-af3a-37d0bee476b0=2024)
25
12.6
14.1


Opp. FT% (https://radar360.sportradar.com/nba/reports/59ca26f0-c92a-11e8-865f-af54ac5e9936?778fd420-2ef5-11e8-af3a-37d0bee476b0=2024)
26
.790
.780


Rebound Differential per Game (https://radar360.sportradar.com/nba/reports/48bf5bb0-5cf7-11eb-9199-ed002ba9e83a?778fd420-2ef5-11e8-af3a-37d0bee476b0=2024)
27
-2.5
0.0


Opp. Defensive Rebounds Per Game (https://radar360.sportradar.com/nba/reports/ce8dbea0-c92c-11e8-8f6a-b17c0bda1166?778fd420-2ef5-11e8-af3a-37d0bee476b0=2024)
27
34.1
33.0


Opp. Offensive Rebounds Per Game (https://radar360.sportradar.com/nba/reports/2eff5a20-c930-11e8-865f-af54ac5e9936?778fd420-2ef5-11e8-af3a-37d0bee476b0=2024)
28
12.1
11.1

[RC_Drunkford]

same as usual. We suck at rebounding, defending and shooting.

[scottspurs]

same as usual. We suck at rebounding, defending and shooting.

haha yeah but rebounding sticks out like a sore thumb. If they don’t address it during the draft or free agency I don’t see how they make it any higher than the 7 seed next season

[scott]

haha yeah but rebounding sticks out like a sore thumb. If they don’t address it during the draft or free agency I don’t see how they make it any higher than the 7 seed next season

One thing I'm going to be watching next year - our Steals/Gm really increased significantly after the Fox trade, I believe to the second highest rate in the league (still behind OKC). Fox is known for steals, of course, but Devin really picked up his stocks after De'Aaron was acquired as well. I'm hoping we make this a core part of our defensive identity going forward, much how OKC has.

[RC_Drunkford]

One thing I'm going to be watching next year - our Steals/Gm really increased significantly after the Fox trade, I believe to the second highest rate in the league (still behind OKC). Fox is known for steals, of course, but Devin really picked up his stocks after De'Aaron was acquired as well. I'm hoping we make this a core part of our defensive identity going forward, much how OKC has.

Having Harper with his wingspan should help as well. Points in the paint should go up significantly with those guards too.

I think Fox and Castle could actually play a mean full-court press together

[sfernald]

I just wanna say but I’m afraid I might jinx it, this forum has become amazing this offseason. Everyone getting along so much better and so much great thought and content posted on here. I think the benefit is we are getting a higher volume of different perspectives on here. Really one of the best nba forums.

[scott]

I just wanna say but I’m afraid I might jinx it, this forum has become amazing this offseason. Everyone getting along so much better and so much great thought and content posted on here. I think the benefit is we are getting a higher volume of different perspectives on here. Really one of the best nba forums.

fuck you