2025 NBA Offseason Thread

[tonight...you]

How are we not discussing the 70-odd million Devin Booker just commanded for 2 years?!?!
It was mentioned a few times and the main thought is this insanity keeps Booker from the Rockets just from the price tag.

[mystargtr34]

David Jones has been very impressive from what I’ve seen, has excellent handles seems to have the ball on a string on the dribble. Good vision and passing and finishing at the rim. Looks like a guy worthy of a full roster spot given his age, G-league play, summer league play. 6’3.5 without shoes so about 6’4 - 6’5 in NBA height and 8’4 reach with a solid build, he’s got good size for 2 guard but plays more like a point/combo guard.

Has shown me way more than Harrison Ingram.

[mystargtr34]

So Jalen Williams gets the full SuperMax escalator (which he still must earn this coming season) while Chet gets a partial.

I do think it is worth point out that because of how the 2026-27 salary cap increase came in at 7% AND how Spotrac is currently forecasting only 5% cap increases after that, even if these players do not hit their escalator clauses, extensions with max Bird raises are now *increasing* contracts as a % of the cap (and beyond 25% for rookie max players).

The extensions for Paolo, Chet and JWill now look like this as a % of the cap:

2026-27: 25.00%
2027-28: 25.71%
2028-29: 26.30%
2029-30: 26.78%
2030:31: 27.15%

This is something to watch out for with the Spurs and Fox's extension. If he signs a 30% max deal with full 8% Bird Raises, his % of the cap would project to look like this:

4 years/$222MM

26-27: $49.6MM 30.0%
27-28: $53.6MM 30.9%
28-29: $57.6MM 31.6%
29-30: $61.6MM 32.1%

I think it is not likely, but I think there is a small outside chance and I hope this is what Fox and the Spurs agree to: a 8% raise in year 2, then a (max allowable) 10% decline in years 3 and 4 with year 4 being a player option:

3+1(PO)/$196MM

26-27: $49.6MM 30.0%
27-28: $53.6MM 30.9%
28-29: $48.6MM 26.7%
29-30: $43.7MM 22.8%

This would be about as "team friendly" as it can get for the Spurs, while still giving Fox maximum money for the first two years of the deal and giving him a player option to opt out in 2029 when he'll be eligible for a 35% max by virtue of years of service.

Good stuff Scott. Full 8% raises for Fox on 30% when the cap is likely only going up 5-7% per year does give you some caution. Almost 1/3 of your salary cap on one guy you better hope he’s balling.

I like your suggestion of the 3+1 with max raise year 2 and then max drops year 3 and 4. Surely Fox team is going to be realistic about his true worth. I would be ok with max raise in year 2, flat for year 3 and then max decline in year 4.

[ace3g]

Shams Charania ShamsCharania
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New Orleans Pelicans forward Herb Jones has agreed to a three-year, $68 million contract extension with the franchise, Mark Bartelstein and Kieran Piller of @PrioritySports told ESPN. Jones now has a total five years and $97M on his Pelicans deal – with player option in 2029-30

[scott]

Still a great contract for Herb, IMO

[Dejounte]

Thats what Sochan will get, I bet

[RC_Drunkford]

Thats what Sochan will get, I bet

let‘s hope not, would be a huge mistake. Herb is an All-Defensive team player who can shoot. Jeremy is none of the 2

[rankingtear]

Let's see how ass Herb is without 4 good offensive players around him. Dumars doing a number on that franchise.

[itzsoweezee]

Still a great contract for Herb, IMO

Maybe for twice the years

[Ariel]

Thats what Sochan will get, I bet
That would be idiotic, unless Sochan breaks out in a major way next season, he'll be lucky to get a NTMLE offer sheet from another team as a RFA. Spurs need to negotiate with their own players like Houston and Atlanta have done.

[poopbox]

That 2027 season for OKC is going to be insane. SGA, Chet, and JDub extensions will have all kicked in. It's going to be around 85% of the cap

[Mnky]

let‘s hope not, would be a huge mistake. Herb is an All-Defensive team player who can shoot. Jeremy is none of the 2

They had a out the same 3 pt percentages last year with Sochan having the higher field goal percentage.
They grade pretty close across the board tbh. Herb can't do anything but spot up. Sochan is a great screen and roll guy. Herb plays the lanes more, Sochan Iso defense and down low. Sochan averages more points and rebounds. Herb averages one more assist and steal and better free throw percentage. Oddly a lot closer than I thought they were.

Sochan is 5 years younger.

[RC_Drunkford]

They had a out the same 3 pt percentages last year with Sochan having the higher field goal percentage.
They grade pretty close across the board tbh. Herb can't do anything but spot up. Sochan is a great screen and roll guy. Herb plays the lanes more, Sochan Iso defense and down low. Sochan averages more points and rebounds. Herb averages one more assist and steal and better free throw percentage. Oddly a lot closer than I thought they were.

Sochan is 5 years younger.

you‘re comparing Jones‘ worst season to Sochan‘s best. Jones only played 20 games last year and shot 42% the year before. Jones attempts 3.6 3s, Sochan 1.7. Jones made an NBA All-Defensive team, Sochan never did. Completely different case.

[tbdog]

That 2027 season for OKC is going to be insane. SGA, Chet, and JDub extensions will have all kicked in. It's going to be around 85% of the cap

2027: Thunder go over second apron → their 2034 first-round pick gets frozen (can't trade it)

2028-2031: This is their 4-year window to avoid the worst penalty. They need to stay under the second apron for at least 3 out of these 4 seasons to unfreeze their pick.


If they succeed: Pick becomes tradeable again after the 2031-32 season


If they fail (stay over for 2+ years during 2028-2031): Their 2034 pick automatically becomes the 30th pick in the draft, regardless of how bad they are.


So it's not really about "3 years after" - the pick gets frozen immediately when they go over in 2027. The question is whether they can discipline themselves for 3 out of the next 4 years to avoid losing a potentially valuable lottery pick entirely.


Pretty brutal penalty system when you think about it. The league really doesn't want teams staying in luxury tax hell long-term.

[Mnky]

you‘re comparing Jones‘ worst season to Sochan‘s best. Jones only played 20 games last year and shot 42% the year before. Jones attempts 3.6 3s, Sochan 1.7. Jones made an NBA All-Defensive team, Sochan never did. Completely different case.

Comparing the same two players that you compared. Jones shoots more because he can't do much else. He has really bad numbers in almost every offensive category but spot up.
If we're being honest here, Sochan is the better offensive player. The year you're referring to him shooting good is an outlier in comparison to his other years. Outside of that he's never shot above 33%.
I used statistics and facts to compare them as opposed to this guy got voted by media pundits into a popularity club. Same club that has Gobert over Wemby for DPOY btw.
Saying it's a completely different case is just silly.

I'm sure you just didn't realize they were statistically so similar. Herb is also 5 years older. I'll point that out again because I have no doubt Sochan will be much better in 5 years.

[SpursGenius]

Amir Coffey Bitches. Lets sign him and Garcia

[RC_Drunkford]

Herb Jones shoots a higher number of attempts regardless. What exactly does Sochan do offensively? He has 0 offensive game, the only thing he can do is cut and that's the easiest thing to do. I get it that you have a hard on for Sochan, but he won't get anything close to Herb Jones money.

[LeBowen]

LeBron James reportedly felt the Lakers didn’t fully value everything he had done while shifting focus to Luka Dončić, per @ramonashelburne (https://x.com/ramonashelburne)
& @WindhorstESPN (https://x.com/WindhorstESPN)
“James understood the Lakers taking advantage of an opportunity to pivot to the younger superstar. But from James' perspective, sources said, nuance was sometimes lost during the transition. Doncic had never asked to be a Laker. James, for his part, had chosen L.A., coming in 2018 when the team had missed the playoffs five consecutive seasons, the worst run for the franchise since it moved from Minneapolis. Two years later, James had helped deliver a 17th championship.”


All signs point to the Lakers wanting to move on from LeBron James by the spring of 2026, per @ramonashelburne (https://x.com/ramonashelburne)
& @WindhorstESPN (https://x.com/WindhorstESPN)
“The Lakers had already made their statement in not offering James a contract beyond this season. It was abundantly clear that the 21-time All-Star's time as the face of the Lakers had, for the first time, a planned end date, even if James' record-setting NBA career did not yet. Whether the 2025-26 season is to be James' final season in the NBA is up to him. But if he wanted the kind of Hollywood ending that only the Lakers can give legends of the game, the release date was set. Spring, 2026. Luka Doncic in, LeBron James out.”

LeUnderappreciated.

[KobesAchilles]

Herb Jones shoots a higher number of attempts regardless. What exactly does Sochan do offensively? He has 0 offensive game, the only thing he can do is cut and that's the easiest thing to do. I get it that you have a hard on for Sochan, but he won't get anything close to Herb Jones money.
He’s the biggest Sochan fan on the board and insists that Sochan has finally fixed his shot after the 4th year of completely rehauling it. Somehow Jones being able to make 3s is bad for a 3&D player in his book.

[scott]

Bid Daddy passing on his offer from Greece and will play for Denver. So… we’re back to getting skull fucked by Val.

[Mnky]

Herb Jones shoots a higher number of attempts regardless. What exactly does Sochan do offensively? He has 0 offensive game, the only thing he can do is cut and that's the easiest thing to do. I get it that you have a hard on for Sochan, but he won't get anything close to Herb Jones money.

He's literally averages more PPG and RPG every year of their careers.

Once again, I use facts to come to conclusions over repressed emotions and misery. Get outside, go for a walk, read a book. You'll dislike yourself less.

[Mnky]

He’s the biggest Sochan fan on the board and insists that Sochan has finally fixed his shot after the 4th year of completely rehauling it. Somehow Jones being able to make 3s is bad for a 3&D player in his book.

This is because I said he's improving. I never said Jones being able to make 3s was bad. I did point out he's only shot above 33% once in his career. Facts. Statistics. These help separate emotions and immaturity on takes.

Go do some volunteer hours to feel better about yourself.

[KobesAchilles]

This is because I said he's improving. I never said Jones being able to make 3s was bad. I did point out he's only shot above 33% once in his career. Facts. Statistics. These help separate emotions and immaturity on takes.

Go do some volunteer hours to feel better about yourself.
Weird take bc you highly insinuated that Sochan was better bc all Jones knows how to do is shoot 3s. In 20
games last year he made 3 less threes than Sochan did and that was him injured. Shooting percentage doesn’t really matter as much as volume AND shooting percentage. There’s a reason why NBA stats don’t include players who shoot beneath a certain amount of free throws. Plenty of players go 12/12 or 20/21 and they aren’t leaders in those statistical categories.

So here’s a stat for you. Sochan made a career low in the number of 3s in a season. He made less than his rookie year when he shot a lower percentage. He made 28 threes last season. How is that improvement? A career low is improvement? And this is a fact. A statistic. No emotions in it at all. Any rebuttal in favor of Sochan shooting a career low would be immature and emotional.

Also doesn’t Herb Jones start for his team? And Sochan is a bench player yes? So why are you comparing a bench player to a starter? Why would a bench player make the same amount as a starter? We should compare him to other bench players. Sochan should be compared to other bench players. Yubusule has similar stats to Sochan and is making 5 million a year. Sochan should be in that area as well.

[BatManu20]

25 years ago. Should be a San Antonio holiday tbh. We'll forever be indebted to Doc Rivers' dumbass for completely blowing his opportunity to steal Timmy away from us in 2000.

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[spurraider21]

:lol if a player gave an interview like that today. signs a 5 year deal, says he'll keep going for "another couple of years" and figure out whats gonna happen

[RC_Drunkford]

He's literally averages more PPG and RPG every year of their careers.

Once again, I use facts to come to conclusions over repressed emotions and misery. Get outside, go for a walk, read a book. You'll dislike yourself less.

:lol @ thinking Sochan is the better player because he scores 1 Point more per game and therefore you’re using „facts“. Hilarious.

[RC_Drunkford]

:lol if a player gave an interview like that today. signs a 5 year deal, says he'll keep going for "another couple of years" and figure out whats gonna happen

ESPN: „does Tim Duncan want out of San Antonio? Should the Spurs trade him? Will the Lakers pair him with Shaq or should he go to the Knicks? We‘ll talk about it for the next 5 years“

[ace3g]

Shams Charania ShamsCharania
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Free agent center Isaiah Jackson has agreed to a three-year, $21 million deal to return to the Indiana Pacers, CAA's Drew Morrison and Sam Rose tell ESPN. Pacers are excited about Jackson's development, return, and now lock in a young member of their core.

[poopbox]

Bid Daddy passing on his offer from Greece and will play for Denver. So… we’re back to getting skull fucked by Val.

Luke is going to save us :cry

[scott]

Luke is going to save us :cry

We could have prime DRob out there and I'm afraid Big Daddy Val would find a way to make us his bitch. It's like his brain is wired to kick into some other gear whenever he sees Black and Silver across from him. Zach Randolph and Bonzi Wells were the same way (coincidently, all former Grizzlies).

The only way to prevent us from the abuse from Val would be to sign him, but then I'm afraid he'd find a way to still fuck us (Zach Collins style). The day Jonas retires is the day we'll finally be safe from his fury.

[CGD]

25 years ago. Should be a San Antonio holiday tbh. We'll forever be indebted to Doc Rivers' dumbass for completely blowing his opportunity to steal Timmy away from us in 2000.

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Wow, 6 year 67M contract. Isn’t that like the first year of Bookers extension, lol

[Strategic]

We could have prime DRob out there and I'm afraid Big Daddy Val would find a way to make us his bitch. It's like his brain is wired to kick into some other gear whenever he sees Black and Silver across from him. Zach Randolph and Bonzi Wells were the same way (coincidently, all former Grizzlies).

The only way to prevent us from the abuse from Val would be to sign him, but then I'm afraid he'd find a way to still fuck us (Zach Collins style). The day Jonas retires is the day we'll finally be safe from his fury.
Yeah it’s almost like Nugs can just rest Joker when playing the Spurs.

[Tyrone Jenkins]

They had a out the same 3 pt percentages last year with Sochan having the higher field goal percentage.
They grade pretty close across the board tbh. Herb can't do anything but spot up. Sochan is a great screen and roll guy. Herb plays the lanes more, Sochan Iso defense and down low. Sochan averages more points and rebounds. Herb averages one more assist and steal and better free throw percentage. Oddly a lot closer than I thought they were.

Sochan is 5 years younger.

This isn't specifically directed at you but...

Sooner or later, Sochan is gonna either be COMPLETELY exposed as a defensive player only or he will have a breakout season and start taking/makin shots with confidence. It's not his percentage of lack thereof, it's his game. It's his hesitancy. It's his lack of emergence as more than a bench player. It's the fact that his defender can often slag off to help defend the paint vs. penetration. Mid season, I wouldn't expect him to be in the starting lineup except in games where his defense is needed early and it's been way to many years after being drafted 9th.

Sochan at this point just isn't very good for THIS team currently configured. Barnes at 38 y.o. is a better fit. At this point, it might be Carter who replaces his minutes next year.

[scott]

Barnes at 38 y.o. is a better fit.

Damn, Black Falcon is aging in Dog Years but still looks like he's ready to be a leading man in a Hollywood summer blockbuster

[Tyrone Jenkins]

Damn, Black Falcon is aging in Dog Years but still looks like he's ready to be a leading man in a Hollywood summer blockbuster

My bad - 33

[Mnky]

Weird take bc you highly insinuated that Sochan was better bc all Jones knows how to do is shoot 3s. In 20
games last year he made 3 less threes than Sochan did and that was him injured. Shooting percentage doesn’t really matter as much as volume AND shooting percentage. There’s a reason why NBA stats don’t include players who shoot beneath a certain amount of free throws. Plenty of players go 12/12 or 20/21 and they aren’t leaders in those statistical categories.

So here’s a stat for you. Sochan made a career low in the number of 3s in a season. He made less than his rookie year when he shot a lower percentage. He made 28 threes last season. How is that improvement? A career low is improvement? And this is a fact. A statistic. No emotions in it at all. Any rebuttal in favor of Sochan shooting a career low would be immature and emotional.

Also doesn’t Herb Jones start for his team? And Sochan is a bench player yes? So why are you comparing a bench player to a starter? Why would a bench player make the same amount as a starter? We should compare him to other bench players. Sochan should be compared to other bench players. Yubusule has similar stats to Sochan and is making 5 million a year. Sochan should be in that area as well.

I didn't insinuate Sochan was better. At any point. You're constantly making arguments up in your head. Just have a normal conversation bro.

[Mnky]

This isn't specifically directed at you but...

Sooner or later, Sochan is gonna either be COMPLETELY exposed as a defensive player only or he will have a breakout season and start taking/makin shots with confidence. It's not his percentage of lack thereof, it's his game. It's his hesitancy. It's his lack of emergence as more than a bench player. It's the fact that his defender can often slag off to help defend the paint vs. penetration. Mid season, I wouldn't expect him to be in the starting lineup except in games where his defense is needed early and it's been way to many years after being drafted 9th.

Sochan at this point just isn't very good for THIS team currently configured. Barnes at 38 y.o. is a better fit. At this point, it might be Carter who replaces his minutes next year.

Ageed on most points. He has to be a good shooter to help elevate the team. Good thing he's working on it and only 21. Considering he's done everything they've asked of him, I don't have a reason to believe he won't get better. If he doesn't get better, he becomes expendable like all players.

[Mnky]

:lol @ thinking Sochan is the better player because he scores 1 Point more per game and therefore you’re using „facts“. Hilarious.

I didn't once say he was the better player. When y'all insecure cats feel like you've lost an argument, you just start making arguments up.

This all started because I pointed out how similar they are stat wise and how Sochan actually averages more PPG and RPG. Take my advice bro, you need to learn to like yourself. Go treat yo self.

[BatManu20]

Wow, 6 year 67M contract. Isn’t that like the first year of Bookers extension, lol

Yea that contract was for around $11.2M/year. Adjusted for inflation, that would be around $21M/year today. Sill a huge difference. NBA money is just nuts these days.

The Salary Cap in 2000 was $35.5M too, compared to $155M today. Pretty wild.

[KobesAchilles]

I didn't insinuate Sochan was better. At any point. You're constantly making arguments up in your head. Just have a normal conversation bro.
You literally said Sochan is the better offensive player. And you also said that Sochan is improving as a shooter. When your own statistics say he isn’t improving as a shooter. He made a career low in 3s for a season. That isn’t improvement. He averaged 11 points as a rookie. 11 as a sophomore and 11 as a 3rd year. His blocks are identical. His steals are identical. His shooting percentage from outside the lane hasn’t improved at all. His free throw percentage got worse. His assists are the same too. I’m having a hard time finding out what he improved on other than he just camped in the dunkers spot in order to be useful.

Tbh if Sochan doesn’t learn how to shoot this year then I don’t see him having a role going forward. He will be traded to some crappy franchise like Washington and watch from afar as the Spurs rise to success

[picnroll]

I must have entered some alternate reality. Posters ragging on Sochan for his lack of offense and inability to space of floor and then talking about how Carter needs minutes. I have hope that he’ll show progress but to date he’s shown all the offensive prowess of Thybulle. If the object is fewer shots, fewer make, less spacing then certainly we should be all in on Carter over Sochan.

… and TX has 0% tax LA 5%, that could in itself chip a little off the contract.

[SpursGenius]

Sign Garcia, Bassey,, and Mclouglin to round at the third team. They can join Olynyk and Keldon on the third team.


Harper
Castle
Bryant
Sochan
Wemby

Fox
Vassell
Champ
Barnes
Kornet

Mclouglin
Garcia
Keldon
Bassey
Olynyk

Two way
Minix
Ingram


Hope Harper, Castle , and Sochan can all get above 35 percent from three. Doable as all three have good strokes.

That second team can be a starting 5 in the nba. Very good. Arguably better than Charlotte or Washington starting 5.

[heyheymymy]

Sign Garcia, Bassey,, and Mclouglin to round at the third team. They can join Olynyk and Keldon on the third team.


Harper
Castle
Bryant
Sochan
Wemby

Fox
Vassell
Champ
Barnes
Kornet

Mclouglin
Garcia
Keldon
Bassey
Olynyk

Two way
Minix
Ingram


Hope Harper, Castle , and Sochan can all get above 35 percent from three. Doable as all three have good strokes.

That second team can be a starting 5 in the nba. Very good. Arguably better than Charlotte or Washington starting 5.

This post was like some mission impossible cypher code. I added black font not sure what happened

[mystargtr34]

This post was like some mission impossible cypher code. I added black font not sure what happened

Crazy to think the font colour wasn’t even the worst part of the post

[timtonymanu]

I'm pretty much on the same sentiment as most are on Sochan. I hope his 3 point shot legit improved. The Spurs better not even think about giving him a charity contract if his improvements are minimal. Hopefully shipping out his draft buddies woke him up even more.

[SpursGenius]

This post was like some mission impossible cypher code. I added black font not sure what happened
Thanks bro

[R. DeMurre]

Just to inject some context into the Herb Jones discussion, I don't think his stats from last year are relevant at all. He only played 20 games, was in pain most of those, and then finally got diagnosed with an injured labrum and torn rotator cuff, which he had surgery for.

[Mnky]

You literally said Sochan is the better offensive player. And you also said that Sochan is improving as a shooter. When your own statistics say he isn’t improving as a shooter. He made a career low in 3s for a season. That isn’t improvement. He averaged 11 points as a rookie. 11 as a sophomore and 11 as a 3rd year. His blocks are identical. His steals are identical. His shooting percentage from outside the lane hasn’t improved at all. His free throw percentage got worse. His assists are the same too. I’m having a hard time finding out what he improved on other than he just camped in the dunkers spot in order to be useful.

Tbh if Sochan doesn’t learn how to shoot this year then I don’t see him having a role going forward. He will be traded to some crappy franchise like Washington and watch from afar as the Spurs rise to success

Yes, he is the better offensive player. Has been his whole career. Not by much but still better offensively. He scores more and rebounds more while playing less minutes. That part isn't a close argument. They have historically shot about the same outside of one season Herb shot 40. Then he went back to his normal 30% from 3. The biggest thing he has on Sochan is being a better 3 shooter and it isn't by much, but still he's a better 3 pt shooter.

Playing off ball is not easy. Why do people keep acting like anyone cuts good and can finish well In traffic when doing so? It's literally not common. He found what was available and excelled at it and people try to make it seem like he had nothing to do with becoming good at something most are not. You can hate him all you want. That's cool. It doesn't change facts. You can prefer other players, that's also cool.

I've said he has to improve his shot. Ive pointed out that literally no one is arguing he doesn't. He's working on it and it looks better than it has. Kudos to him. Hopefully it translates to the game.

If anyone doesn't learn to score/shoot, they don't Last long in a rotation. No different for Sochan. I've always agreed on that. I just give the kid credit for what he is doing right as well.

[RC_Drunkford]

It‘s funny how you don‘t understand volume shooting

[kxs783kms]

Crazy to think the font colour wasn’t even the worst part of the post

Definitely up there as one of the craziest post I've seen lol

[Maddog]

Yea that contract was for around $11.2M/year. Adjusted for inflation, that would be around $21M/year today. Sill a huge difference. NBA money is just nuts these days.

The Salary Cap in 2000 was $35.5M too, compared to $155M today. Pretty wild.

During the 1965-66 NBA season, Bill Russell became the highest-paid player in the league, earning a salary of $100,001. This made him the first NBA player to surpass the $100,000 mark in a single season.
Adjusted for inflation that's right under a million.
Of course back then the NBA was clearly a distant third among professional sports and money in sports and entertainment was no where near what it is today

[mo7888]

During the 1965-66 NBA season, Bill Russell became the highest-paid player in the league, earning a salary of $100,001. This made him the first NBA player to surpass the $100,000 mark in a single season.
Adjusted for inflation that's right under a million.
Of course back then the NBA was clearly a distant third among professional sports and money in sports and entertainment was no where near what it is today

The NBA is still 3rd in revenue generated, they've improved though and aren't a distant 3rd anymore.

[exstatic]

2027: Thunder go over second apron → their 2034 first-round pick gets frozen (can't trade it)

2028-2031: This is their 4-year window to avoid the worst penalty. They need to stay under the second apron for at least 3 out of these 4 seasons to unfreeze their pick.


If they succeed: Pick becomes tradeable again after the 2031-32 season


If they fail (stay over for 2+ years during 2028-2031): Their 2034 pick automatically becomes the 30th pick in the draft, regardless of how bad they are.


So it's not really about "3 years after" - the pick gets frozen immediately when they go over in 2027. The question is whether they can discipline themselves for 3 out of the next 4 years to avoid losing a potentially valuable lottery pick entirely.


Pretty brutal penalty system when you think about it. The league really doesn't want teams staying in luxury tax hell long-term.

It’s actually not frozen for a first offense, and can never be unfrozen once it becomes so. Look up the CBA. It’s something like 2 times in 3 years triggers the pick penalty.

[exstatic]

25 years ago. Should be a San Antonio holiday tbh. We'll forever be indebted to Doc Rivers' dumbass for completely blowing his opportunity to steal Timmy away from us in 2000.

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People still don’t get it. It was never going to be Hill, Duncan, and TMac. They only had two max slots, and when Tim passed, they pivoted to the then relatively unknown Tracy McGrady.

[Ice009]

I've been told that, but I remember reading back then that they were trying to get McGrady too. They were trying to fit all three in. Again, don't remember what the article said, but I think Hill was in and the Magic were trying to get both TD and Tracey (I think they were going to offer T-Mac less money as the third wheel). Maybe I'm remembering wrong.

[goliath]

I've been told that, but I remember reading back then that they were trying to get McGrady too. They were trying to fit all three in. Again, don't remember what the article said, but I think Hill was in and the Magic were trying to get both TD and Tracey (I think they were going to offer T-Mac less money as the third wheel). Maybe I'm remembering wrong.

If I remember correctly it was the media and leaks from the Magic that were basically saying “we are going after hill and Duncan and who knows maybe they all take less and we sign Tmac too.” I don’t think any of the three said or hinted they would take less and it was all speculation from the media and wishful thinking by the Magic. As others said they only had two max slots and all three would had to have taken pretty significant pay cuts.

[goliath]

If I remember correctly it was the media and leaks from the Magic that were basically saying “we are going after hill and Duncan and who knows maybe they all take less and we sign Tmac too.” I don’t think any of the three said or hinted they would take less and it was all speculation from the media and wishful thinking by the Magic. As others said they only had two max slots and all three would had to have taken pretty significant pay cuts.
And tmac wasn’t part of the recruiting trip Duncan and hill went on, wasn’t on any of the signage or marketing trying to get them to sign and only visited when Duncan said no.

[Ice009]

If I remember correctly it was the media and leaks from the Magic that were basically saying “we are going after hill and Duncan and who knows maybe they all take less and we sign Tmac too.” I don’t think any of the three said or hinted they would take less and it was all speculation from the media and wishful thinking by the Magic. As others said they only had two max slots and all three would had to have taken pretty significant pay cuts.


And tmac wasn’t part of the recruiting trip Duncan and hill went on, wasn’t on any of the signage or marketing trying to get them to sign and only visited when Duncan said no.

You might be 100% right. I think that is what it might have been, as I did read it in an article, so it might have been the media trying to drum it up. Having said that, I'm sure T-Mac mentioned he almost got to play with TD and if Grant Hill was signed first, that would mean it would have been the three of them.

[Dex]

The NBA is still 3rd in revenue generated, they've improved though and aren't a distant 3rd anymore.

I'm a little surprised MLB is still higher, considering most people I talk to complain about how boring watching baseball on TV is (myself included).

Granted, we don't necessarily live in a baseball area.

[scott]

I'm a little surprised MLB is still higher, considering most people I talk to complain about how boring watching baseball on TV is (myself included).

Granted, we don't necessarily live in a baseball area.

According to Wikipedia, NBA has surpassed MLB in revenues, revenue/game, and revenue/team: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_professional_sports_leagues_by_revenue

[KobesAchilles]

I love Tmac saying he deserved MVP in 2003 for dragging his team to the 8th seed and a first round exit. There probably wasn’t a bigger Tmac fan than me at the time but when I heard that take I just busted out laughing. He even argued with Shaq saying he deserved MVP over Duncan bc the Spurs had rookie Manu and second year Parker. It’s why I can’t take players seriously when they talk about stuff like that. Too many of them are deluded

[Mr. Body]

According to Wikipedia, NBA has surpassed MLB in revenues, revenue/game, and revenue/team: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_professional_sports_leagues_by_revenue

MLB also has a huge number of games per season and they are somewhat narrow casted to fans who see multiple games throughout the year. It's not as niche as hockey but it's a fairly niche sport other than some areas -- like NYC or Boston, where their MLB teams are arguably their most popular.

[Ice009]

I've never really watched a baseball game or hockey game. Is either worth watching?

[tonight...you]

I've never really watched a baseball game or hockey game. Is either worth watching?
I only watch baseball because my apartment complex overlooks the Durham Bulls stadium with a perfect view facing home base with complete visibility and the complex runs an open bar many games for us tenants to get together and enjoy.
It's fine in that kind of environment. I always thought of baseball as a social event as it's so slow so there's lots of talking between each other.
I've been to a few pro hockey games and it can be super fun live. The fans are rabid, even in El Paso and even more-so in NC.
On TV though... Never tried it.

I always liked watching rugby though. Now that's a niche sport for Americans.
Cricket made my eyes go crossed.
Futbol was cool when I was with my Mexican fam as they would be so into it. I enjoyed that.

[KobesAchilles]

I've never really watched a baseball game or hockey game. Is either worth watching?
Gotta go to live games for both. The experience is way better live. It’s not really made for TV tbh.

[mo7888]

According to Wikipedia, NBA has surpassed MLB in revenues, revenue/game, and revenue/team: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_professional_sports_leagues_by_revenue

This is what my AI said:

The top 3 sports leagues by revenue in the USA are:
* National Football League (NFL): Consistently the highest-grossing sports league in the US and globally, with revenues exceeding $18 billion annually.
* Major League Baseball (MLB): Generates significant revenue, typically around $11.5 - $12 billion annually.
* National Basketball Association (NBA): Showing rapid growth and strong international appeal, with annual revenues around $10.5 - $11.3 billion.

[scott]

For those asking about baseball and whether it worth watch... 60 Minutes recently did a great story on the Savannah Bananas that is easily found online.

Basically a young guy acquired the team and wanted to completely change the fan experience because most people (including him, while managing another team) found it boring. Really a great watch (and a great example of a customer-centric business model)

[ace3g]

Shams Charania ShamsCharania
·
39s
Cole Anthony has agreed to a contract buyout with the Memphis Grizzlies and plans to sign with the Milwaukee Bucks after he clears waivers, sources tell ESPN. Grizzlies finalized the buyout with Jeff Schwartz and Javon Phillips of Excel Sports for Anthony's new opportunity.

[mo7888]

For those asking about baseball and whether it worth watch... 60 Minutes recently did a great story on the Savannah Bananas that is easily found online.

Basically a young guy acquired the team and wanted to completely change the fan experience because most people (including him, while managing another team) found it boring. Really a great watch (and a great example of a customer-centric business model)

Love the Savannah Bananas!

[tonight...you]

For those asking about baseball and whether it worth watch... 60 Minutes recently did a great story on the Savannah Bananas that is easily found online.

Basically a young guy acquired the team and wanted to completely change the fan experience because most people (including him, while managing another team) found it boring. Really a great watch (and a great example of a customer-centric business model)
They stay at my hotel every year when they come play at the Bulls stadium.
Great guys, for the most part.

[scott]

Love the Savannah Bananas!


They stay at my hotel every year when they come play at the Bulls stadium.
Great guys, for the most part.

It was a really good story, and I've seen some other clips from extended portions of the interview that didn't make the final cut that were really insightful. The owner and his partner have such a refreshing approach to how they manage the team and the fan experience. It might not be the most profitable approach, but it's definitely great for fans and it is resonating, as shown by the sell out crowds all over the country. I've never watched a Bananas game, but I want to now.

[tonight...you]

It was a really good story, and I've seen some other clips from extended portions of the interview that didn't make the final cut that were really insightful. The owner and his partner have such a refreshing approach to how they manage the team and the fan experience. It might not be the most profitable approach, but it's definitely great for fans and it is resonating, as shown by the sell out crowds all over the country. I've never watched a Bananas game, but I want to now.
They're pretty awesome. Like a more entertaining Harlem Globetrotters of baseball.
They really get the crowd into it.
I made a few friends from the team. I know the owners as they stay too. We have a great relationship.

[mo7888]

It was a really good story, and I've seen some other clips from extended portions of the interview that didn't make the final cut that were really insightful. The owner and his partner have such a refreshing approach to how they manage the team and the fan experience. It might not be the most profitable approach, but it's definitely great for fans and it is resonating, as shown by the sell out crowds all over the country. I've never watched a Bananas game, but I want to now.

I've watched them on TV with my son (10 year old baseball player) and we love it. It's almost impossible to get tickets. Not only is it just a fun games it's quicker than MLB as well. Of course, college baseball (which I like better than MLB as well) goes at a quicker pace and that makes it more entertaining for me too.

[mystargtr34]

Not to overreact but after watching Queen for 5 minutes I think he’s going to be the worst defensive player in the league by far.

[SpursGenius]

First Team

Fox 1st round pick 5
Castle 1st round Pick 4
Vassell 1st round pick 11
Sochan 1st round pick 9
Wemby 1st round pick 1

2nd team

Harper First round pick 2
Champ
Bryant first round pick 14
Barnes first round pick 7
Kornet

Third team

Mcloughlin
Garcia
Keldon first round pick 29
Bassey
Olynyk first round pick 13

two way

Ingram
Dennis
Minix

[Biggems]

I've never really watched a baseball game or hockey game. Is either worth watching?

I only watch the Astros and Penguins. Baseball has become more entertaining thanks to the pitch clock. I remember as a kid, a game could last over 4 hrs for just 9 innings. Now games are lasting about 2 1/2 hours. It is a much quicker pace.

[Biggems]

First Team

Fox 1st round pick 5
Castle 1st round Pick 4
Vassell 1st round pick 11
Sochan 1st round pick 9
Wemby 1st round pick 1

2nd team

Harper First round pick 2
Champ
Bryant first round pick 14
Barnes first round pick 7
Kornet

Third team

Mcloughlin
Garcia
Keldon first round pick 29
Bassey
Olynyk first round pick 13

two way

Ingram
Dennis
Minix

I am good with it. Bring on the season.

[ginobilized]

Not to overreact but after watching Queen for 5 minutes I think he’s going to be the worst defensive player in the league by far.

I'm with ya! I literally saw him walk back on D in their Sweet 16 game vs Florida. No motor or motivation at all. Not sure he even has the tools to be anything more than terrible defensively.

[tbdog]

Are you guys taking about Pelicans queen who they gave an unprotected pick for to pair with lazy zion?

[ace3g]

Michael Scotto MikeAScotto
·
8m
Memphis Grizzlies head coach Tuomas Iisalo will add Ryan Saunders as lead assistant coach, league sources told Hoopshype
. Saunders was recently an assistant coach for the Denver Nuggets. Before that, Saunders was the head coach of the Minnesota Timberwolves. First DrewHill_DM
.

[ace3g]

Shams Charania ShamsCharania
·
5h
The Memphis Grizzlies and two-way guard Cam Spencer's representatives, Mark Bartelstein and Ross Aroyo of
@PrioritySports
, have restructured the agreement to re-sign: Spencer is now inking a new four-year, $10.5 million deal, with three fully guaranteed seasons, sources said.

[ace3g]

Michael Scotto MikeAScotto
·
1h
The Washington Wizards have waived Richaun Holmes.

[ace3g]

Shams Charania ShamsCharania
·
50s
Philadelphia 76ers star Paul George underwent a successful arthroscopic procedure on his left knee Monday to treat an injury suffered during a recent workout, a team official tells ESPN. George will now begin a rehab program and be re-evaluated prior to start of training camp.

[mystargtr34]

PG looking for more podcast time

[RC_Drunkford]

Not to overreact but after watching Queen for 5 minutes I think he’s going to be the worst defensive player in the league by far.

he‘s always been a bust. Dude is fat and undersized with zero athleticism and a non-consistent jumpshot. He‘s gon be absolute ass.

[SpursGenius]

First Team

Fox 1st round pick 5
Castle 1st round Pick 4
Vassell 1st round pick 11
Sochan 1st round pick 9
Wemby 1st round pick 1

2nd team

Harper First round pick 2
Champ
Bryant first round pick 14
Barnes first round pick 7
Kornet

Third team

Mcloughlin
Garcia
Keldon first round pick 29
Bassey
Olynyk first round pick 13

two way

Ingram
Dennis
Minix
Today’s game substantiates above. Garcia big squad. Bassey from Celts squad on our big squad.

Minix, Ingram, Dennis fantastic game. Give them the three two way deals.

[ace3g]

Michael Scotto MikeAScotto
·
4h
Just In: The Charlotte Hornets have waived Josh Okogie, league sources told Hoopshype
. Okogie’s $7.75 million salary was set to guarantee today if he remained on the roster. Okogie averaged 8.9 points and 1.8 steals in 18.3 minutes per game in 15 games for Charlotte last season.

[tonight...you]

Michael Scotto Mike (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7591)AScotto
·
4h
Just In: The Charlotte Hornets have waived Josh Okogie, league sources told Hoops (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=8733)hype
. Okogie’s $7.75 million salary was set to guarantee today if he remained on the roster. Okogie averaged 8.9 points and 1.8 steals in 18.3 minutes per game in 15 games for Charlotte last season.
Wherever you go when this place goes scorched Earth... I'm following.

[ginobilized]

I'm very interested to see how/what the Spurs end up with their training camp roster. I wouldn't rule out going completely in-house for the remaining spots with Minix, Ingram and DJG. On the other hand, it wouldn't surprise me if there is a trade incoming, or at the deadline, that offloads Vassell, Barnes, Olynyk and/or KJ. We still lack that starting PF that will round out the squad. As of today, Bryant doesn't look like he will get any meaningful time on the floor with the A-team. He needs a ton of development.

3rd string center might be useful. What a change from not having a serviceable backup. Can we re-sign Bassey?

[ace3g]

Shams Charania ShamsCharania
BREAKING: Three-time NBA All-Star Bradley Beal has agreed to a contract buyout with the Phoenix Suns and plans to join the Los Angeles Clippers on a two-year, $11 million deal with a player option after clearing waivers, Mark Bartelstein of
@PrioritySports
told ESPN

[Seventyniner]

Wow. What a flame out by the Suns.

[ace3g]

Shams Charania ShamsCharania
The Milwaukee Bucks are re-signing forward Chris Livingston on a fully guaranteed one-year, $2.3 million deal, Rich Paul and Brandon Cavanaugh of Klutch Sports tell ESPN. Livingston, the 58th pick in the 2023 NBA draft, receives a third consecutive year on a guaranteed contract.

[LeBowen]

Wow. What a flame out by the Suns.

https://i.redd.it/dpkm3s2bz9df1.jpeg

This is one of the most idiotic moves in league history.
They have no way to compete over the next few years, instead of biting the bullet and keeping Beal for at least one more season they agree to have $19.4M of dead money for the next 5 years.
I just don't understand how all these retards get NBA front office jobs. I have no doubt that spurstalk would run a team better than some of these front offices.

[spurraider21]

saves them 200m in tax tbh, lifts all the apron restrictions, etc

[LeBowen]

saves them 200m in tax tbh, lifts all the apron restrictions, etc

It's a lose-lose situation, but if Ishbia wanted to be a high roller he had to take this one on the chin.
When Booker's extension kicks in, they'll effectively be paying more than 90 million for one player. Impossible situation.

[ace3g]

Andre Jackson Jr. anyone?

Jake Weinbach
@JWeinbachNBA
·
3h
Milwaukee’s final roster spot will likely come down to Andre Jackson Jr. or Thanasis Antetokounmpo after re-signing Chris Livingston to a one-year, $2.3M deal.

The Bucks currently have 15 rostered players, but Jackson Jr.’s contract is still non-guaranteed for next season.

[mystargtr34]

Clippers lucking into Beal makes them a fair bit better I think. They were 3rd in defense rating and 15th in offense rating last year (29th in 3PA but 7th in 3P%). So they needed more offense/shooting which they got with Beal, Collins, Lopez while only losing Powell.

I have them 4th in the West now.

OKC
Denver
Houston
Clippers
Wolves
Lakers

Lakers are there for the taking, don’t see why the Spurs can’t get that 6th spot.

[spurraider21]

clips replaced Norm with Beal for cheap while also getting Collins. they also signed BroLo to back up Zubac. nice offseason for them tbh

[scott]

Still have Harden though, thereby hard capping their potential to a game 7 where he goes 2-19 or some shit

[timtonymanu]

Clippers are the ultimate “they’re gonna be really good” team from fans on here and then they flame out like usual. Just need TD21 to call them the championship favorites to complete the process.

[Mr. Body]

I'm not sure jamming old farts together has ever won a championship. Pippen-Barkley-Olajuwon vibes.

[Spurs Brazil]

MikeAScotto

JUST IN: The Atlanta Hawks and Caleb Houstan agreed to a one-year deal, sources told Hoopshype
. The 22-year-old shot 50.7% from 3-point range after the All-Star break and has improved his 3-point shooting in each of his first 3 NBA seasons. Agent Jason Glushon finalized the deal

[ace3g]

Shams Charania ShamsCharania
·
38s
BREAKING: Nine-time NBA All-Star Damian Lillard is finalizing a three-year, $42 million contract to return to the Portland Trail Blazers, sources tell ESPN. Deal is expected to include a player option in 2027-28 and a no-trade clause. A storybook reunion home for the 35-year-old.

[scott]

Shams Charania Sham (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=17672)sCharania
·
38s
BREAKING: Nine-time NBA All-Star Damian Lillard is finalizing a three-year, $42 million contract to return to the Portland Trail Blazers, sources tell ESPN. Deal is expected to include a player option in 2027-28 and a no-trade clause. A storybook reunion home for the 35-year-old.

Boom. I've been telling y'all he would end up back in Portland. I'm connected to someone who is close to him via one of his sponsorship deals. He's wanted to go back there, he really loves that community and fanbase.

[LeBowen]

Why would they give him so much money, though?
Sentimental value, I guess.

[scott]

Why would they give him so much money, though?
Sentimental value, I guess.

Meh... it's less than MLE. Less than what Sochan will get on his extension tbh... :lol

But yeah... they kind of did MIL a favor here.

[exstatic]

Why would they give him so much money, though?
Sentimental value, I guess.

Why do you think $14M a year is “so much money”?

[mo7888]

Meh... it's less than MLE. Less than what Sochan will get on his extension tbh... :lol

But yeah... they kind of did MIL a favor here.

How did it do Milwaukee a favor?

[Splits]

How did it do Milwaukee a favor?

It didn't. MIL waived and stretched, didn't buy him out (which they should have). So they gain nothing from his new contract.

[tonight...you]

How did it do Milwaukee a favor?
That amount comes off their cap.

Edit: thanks for the course correction Splits

[scott]

How did it do Milwaukee a favor?

My understanding, but I could be wrong, is that even though Dame was waived and stretched, there is still a set-off against his MIL deal. http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap17.htm#Q65


If another team signs a player who has cleared waivers, the player's original team is allowed to reduce the amount of money it still owes the player (and lower its team salary2) by a commensurate amount. This is called the right of set-off. This is true if the player signs with any professional team -- it does not have to be an NBA team. The amount the original team gets to set off is limited to one-half the difference between the player's new salary and the minimum salary for a one-year veteran during the season in which the player is waived (if the player is a rookie, then the rookie minimum is used instead).For example, suppose a fifth-year player is waived with one guaranteed season remaining on his contract for $5 million. If this player signs a $2 million contract with another team for the 2017-18 season, his original team gets to set off $2 million minus $1,312,611 (the minimum salary for a one-year veteran in 2017-18), divided by two, or $343,694. The team is still responsible for paying $4,656,306 of the original $5 million. Note that between his prior team and new team the player will earn a combined $6,656,306, which was more than he earned prior to being waived.If a player has been waived and his salary has been stretched, his salary can be set-off only during the original term of the contract. For example, suppose a player is signed for 2017-18 and 2018-19, and he is waived during the 2017-18 season, with his 2018-19 salary stretched across 2018-19, 2019-20 and 2020-21. If the player signs with another team, only his 2017-18 and/or 2018-19 salary can be set off.

So the more POR pays Dame, the higher the Set off to MIL becomes. Dame doesn't really get any more money than he would have if he just signed a minimum deal with POR (unless he negotiated something different with MIL, but I think the Bucks waived him without his knowing and without a buyout agreement)

[scott]

It didn't. MIL waived and stretched, didn't buy him out (which they should have). So they gain nothing from his new contract.

The right of set-off still applies to waived-and-stretched players, per cbafaq.com, but that is based on the 2017 CBA so perhaps it is outdated.

I would guess the right of set-off still applies though, otherwise Dame would be getting paid more than the max allows for.

[LeBowen]

Why do you think $14M a year is “so much money”?

Because he'll be a 36 year old recovering from an achilles injuy by the time he plays again?
And he's getting the Bucks money.
70 million during rehab year, not bad.

[Splits]

My understanding, but I could be wrong, is that even though Dame was waived and stretched, there is still a set-off against his MIL deal. http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap17.htm#Q65



So the more POR pays Dame, the higher the Set off to MIL becomes. Dame doesn't really get any more money than he would have if he just signed a minimum deal with POR (unless he negotiated something different with MIL, but I think the Bucks waived him without his knowing and without a buyout agreement)[/FONT][/COLOR]

Ok, so MIL saved a fraction of an amount compared to if they bought him out instead of just waved him. Still don't understand the straight waive instead of negotiating a buyout.

[scott]

Ok, so MIL saved a fraction of an amount compared to if they bought him out instead of just waved him. Still don't understand the straight waive instead of negotiating a buyout.

Fear the Deer
Fear the Apron

[Splits]

The right of set-off still applies to waived-and-stretched players, per cbafaq.com, but that is based on the 2017 CBA so perhaps it is outdated.

I would guess the right of set-off still applies though, otherwise Dame would be getting paid more than the max allows for.

Maybe no paid more than "max" but more than his previous contract because his new contract is additive and doesn't provide his previous team relief:



Nine-time NBA All-Star Damian Lillard (https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/6606/damian-lillard) has agreed to a three-year, $42 million contract to return to the Portland Trail Blazers (https://www.espn.com/nba/team/_/name/por/portland-trail-blazers), sources told ESPN on Thursday.

The Milwaukee Bucks (https://www.espn.com/nba/team/_/name/mil/milwaukee-bucks) waived Lillard, 35, earlier this month and stretched the remaining $113 million on his contract in order to sign free agent center Myles Turner (https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3133628/myles-turner).

Lillard now will have a 2025-26 set salary of $70 million between his Portland and Milwaukee deals, and a salary of $141 million over the next two years ahead of an opt-out in 2027.

new money 3/42m = 14m/year
old money 2/113m = 56.5/year
total for 25/26 = 70/year

So Dame earns more by getting waived instead of bought out? And no relief to the Bucks since they waived and didn't buyout

[Splits]

The whole purpose of a buyout is:

1) Ayton owed $35.5m on the final year of contract
2) Ayton takes $25.6m buyout, saving POR $9m
3) Ayton takes $8.5m contract with LAL, essentially only losing $500k

[baseline bum]

We could have prime DRob out there and I'm afraid Big Daddy Val would find a way to make us his bitch. It's like his brain is wired to kick into some other gear whenever he sees Black and Silver across from him. Zach Randolph and Bonzi Wells were the same way (coincidently, all former Grizzlies).

The only way to prevent us from the abuse from Val would be to sign him, but then I'm afraid he'd find a way to still fuck us (Zach Collins style). The day Jonas retires is the day we'll finally be safe from his fury.

Worked well with Glenn Robinson though. Got skullfucked twice a year by him and the Bucks for-seemingly-ever, got him here and he saved the Spurs asses in Game 1 of the 05 Finals with three quick blocked shots to kill off a red hot 17-4 start from the Pistons. Sadly his mom died a couple of days later so he left the team to be with his family (which jackass Stephen A Smith crucified him for at the time).

[scott]

Maybe no paid more than "max" but more than his previous contract because his new contract is additive and doesn't provide his previous team relief:



new money 3/42m = 14m/year
old money 2/113m = 56.5/year
total for 25/26 = 70/year

So Dame earns more by getting waived instead of bought out? And no relief to the Bucks since they waived and didn't buyout

tbh i'm gonna wait for Keith Smith to weigh in, because I do think there is a set-off

[baseline bum]

I only watch baseball because my apartment complex overlooks the Durham Bulls stadium with a perfect view facing home base with complete visibility and the complex runs an open bar many games for us tenants to get together and enjoy.

Oh man I loved the movie

[scott]

Worked well with Glenn Robinson though. Got skullfucked twice a year by him and the Bucks for-seemingly-ever, got him here and he saved the Spurs asses in Game 1 of the 05 Finals with three quick blocked shots to kill off a red hot 17-4 start from the Pistons. Sadly his mom died a couple of days later so he left the team to be with his family (which jackass Stephen A Smith crucified him for at the time).

Big Dog was such a badass, I loved that he was with us - and he allowed us to complete our collection of dudes nicknamed Big Dog on our team (though tbh, Antoine Carr's other nickname, Dr. Dunkenstein, is all time).

Glen Rice is the 90s star I wish we could have found a way to do a pre-retirement stint with us.

[tonight...you]

Oh man I loved the movie
Great flik.

[Splits]

tbh i'm gonna wait for Keith Smith to weigh in, because I do think there is a set-off

Make sure to link it when you do, I'm also pretty sure that buyout teams save money and waive teams don't.

[Ice009]

Worked well with Glenn Robinson though. Got skullfucked twice a year by him and the Bucks for-seemingly-ever, got him here and he saved the Spurs asses in Game 1 of the 05 Finals with three quick blocked shots to kill off a red hot 17-4 start from the Pistons. Sadly his mom died a couple of days later so he left the team to be with his family (which jackass Stephen A Smith crucified him for at the time).

I thought I remember hearing he has an issue with SAS. Is this why?



Big Dog was such a badass, I loved that he was with us - and he allowed us to complete our collection of dudes nicknamed Big Dog on our team (though tbh, Antoine Carr's other nickname, Dr. Dunkenstein, is all time).

Glen Rice is the 90s star I wish we could have found a way to do a pre-retirement stint with us.

I didn't get to see Glen Rice play much, but I was a fan of his when I first started watching NBA. I know he got one ring with the Lakers. Did he leave after that, or did they not want him back?

[spurraider21]

We could have prime DRob out there and I'm afraid Big Daddy Val would find a way to make us his bitch. It's like his brain is wired to kick into some other gear whenever he sees Black and Silver across from him. Zach Randolph and Bonzi Wells were the same way (coincidently, all former Grizzlies).

The only way to prevent us from the abuse from Val would be to sign him, but then I'm afraid he'd find a way to still fuck us (Zach Collins style). The day Jonas retires is the day we'll finally be safe from his fury.
for those wondering


Val's career stats:

13.1 ppg, 9.3 rpg, 0.9 blocks per game on 56% from the field and 80% from the line


Vals' career stats vs the Spurs:

16.3ppg, 10.6 rpg, 1.1 blocks per game on 63% from the field and 77% from the line

[ace3g]

https://x.com/NoaDalzell/status/1946009155422327205


Noa Dalzell ��
@NoaDalzell
·
39m
BREAKING: Celtics Summer League standout Charles Bassey is no longer on the roster - he had a prior commitment and was only slated to play the first three games of Summer League with the Celtics, per the team.

More:

[Mr. Body]

https://x.com/NoaDalzell/status/1946009155422327205


Noa Dalzell ��
@NoaDalzell
·
39m
BREAKING: Celtics Summer League standout Charles Bassey is no longer on the roster - he had a prior commitment and was only slated to play the first three games of Summer League with the Celtics, per the team.

More:

New James Bond.

[baseline bum]

I thought I remember hearing he has an issue with SAS. Is this why?


Might be. Smith apologized when he found out Big Dog's mother died but if he had done any research before running his fat mouth he could have avoided sounding like an idiot. All of us that follow the Spurs knew that's why he he missed those Finals games but Stephen A thought it was for no good reason as if he would have left the team to go to Vegas or something. I'll always be grateful to Big Dog for that banner and don't think the Spurs would have won it without his performance in Game 1.

[Mr. Body]

Stephen A. Smith, the next president of the United States?

[baseline bum]

Stephen A. Smith, the next president of the United States?

Nah Trump is the last president of this shithole

[LeBowen]

Queen had a wrist surgery, out for 12 weeks.
Hawks will get a top3 pick, tbh.

[rjv]

Queen had a wrist surgery, out for 12 weeks.
Hawks will get a top3 pick, tbh.

he might make it back by some point in training camp, but he'll be about 150 pounds overweight by then.

[spurraider21]

Queen had a wrist surgery, out for 12 weeks.
Hawks will get a top3 pick, tbh.
i dont really think queen was going to contribute to them winning

[Russ]

i dont really think queen was going to contribute to them winning

Yeah, but they'll keep on fighting to the end.

[ace3g]

Shams Charania ShamsCharania
Pelicans forward/center Derik Queen underwent surgery to repair a torn scapholunate ligament in his left wrist and will be re-evaluated in 12 weeks

[cd98]

Shams Charania Sham (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=17672)sCharania
Pelicans forward/center Derik Queen underwent surgery to repair a torn scapholunate ligament in his left wrist and will be re-evaluated in 12 weeks

It'll be sad when Zion plays more games than him.

[ace3g]

Michael Scotto MikeAScotto
·
33m
Real Madrid is finalizing a deal with Chuma Okeke, sources told Hoopshype
. Okeke, who drew several EuroLeague offers, was the 16th pick of the 2019 NBA Draft. The 26-year-old has averaged 6.3 points and 3.8 rebounds in five NBA seasons. He finished last season with the Cavaliers

[CGD]

Shams Charania ShamsCharania
Pelicans forward/center Derik Queen underwent surgery to repair a torn scapholunate ligament in his left wrist and will be re-evaluated in 12 weeks

Dude, this poor kid is gonna be 400lbs this time next year

[spurraider21]

Dude, this poor kid is gonna be 400lbs this time next year
will fit right in with zion

[KobesAchilles]

Imagine having Joe Dumars running your team in 2025. Atlanta might get the number 1 pick next year tbh

[mystargtr34]

Even if the Hawks get a top pick next year I’m not too fussed, even a top 5 pick rookie is not going to have a huge impact on winning in their first year so it shouldn’t impact the ‘27 pick that much. By that point the pick obligations are done and it doesn’t matter if that rookie becomes the next Jordan.

[Seventyniner]

will fit right in with zion

Queen and Zion together don't fit into anything.

[spurraider21]

Even if the Hawks get a top pick next year I’m not too fussed, even a top 5 pick rookie is not going to have a huge impact on winning in their first year so it shouldn’t impact the ‘27 pick that much. By that point the pick obligations are done and it doesn’t matter if that rookie becomes the next Jordan.
next year's class looks pretty strong at the top

[exstatic]

next year's class looks pretty strong at the top

Wemby didn’t get us out of the top 4 his rookie year. LeBron didn’t make the playoffs his first two. Even transcendent rookies don’t have immediate impact on winning.

[scott]

I'm expecting #14 this year to be the highest pick we get out of ATL, but I'm good with it. Trading DJM allowed us to undergo the tank that was needed. We got good value. The trade indirectly delivered us Wemby, Castle and Harper. Whatever role players we get directly from the ATL picks is just gravy.

[mystargtr34]

Wemby didn’t get us out of the top 4 his rookie year. LeBron didn’t make the playoffs his first two. Even transcendent rookies don’t have immediate impact on winning.

Yeah exactly there’s no LeBron, Shaq or Tim Duncan in next years draft where they are generational and have ready made NBA bodies to add 20 wins on their own their rookie year.

Wemby is as generational as those guys but his body was no where close to his final version like those 3.

Petterson, Dybansta, Boozer are going to be more Ant Edwards, Banchero, Cunningham where they struggle with efficiency their first year or two and will probably be net neutral impact players their first year.

[spurraider21]

Wemby didn’t get us out of the top 4 his rookie year. LeBron didn’t make the playoffs his first two. Even transcendent rookies don’t have immediate impact on winning.
hawks arent basement dwellers who need a savior

[mystargtr34]

hawks arent basement dwellers who need a savior

Bringing a rookie into a winning team as opposed to a bottom dweller probably will help their efficiency I agree with that. But let’s say the Hawks get the number 1 pick and take Petterson are you going to start him next to Trae where he’s has to play off ball where he will probably not be use to that, and move Daniels or Risacher to the bench. Or are you going to bring him off the bench behind Trae where he’s going to have the ball in his hands where he will likely be inefficient anyway his rookie year.

[spurraider21]

Bringing a rookie into a winning team as opposed to a bottom dweller probably will help their efficiency I agree with that. But let’s say the Hawks get the number 1 pick and take Petterson are you going to start him next to Trae where he’s has to play off ball where he will probably not be use to that, and move Daniels or Risacher to the bench. Or are you going to bring him off the bench behind Trae where he’s going to have the ball in his hands where he will likely be inefficient anyway his rookie year.
im not exactly sure what will happen but im struggling to consider a scenario where winning the lottery makes a team worse the following year

[Russ]

Worked well with Glenn Robinson though. Got skullfucked twice a year by him and the Bucks for-seemingly-ever, got him here and he saved the Spurs asses in Game 1 of the 05 Finals with three quick blocked shots to kill off a red hot 17-4 start from the Pistons. Sadly his mom died a couple of days later so he left the team to be with his family (which jackass Stephen A Smith crucified him for at the time).


I thought I remember hearing he has an issue with SAS. Is this why?

Stephen A. Smith made a big deal of saying he didn't like the Spurs' 2005 championship celebration because he said, in a reference to Glenn "Big Dog" Robinson, in the celebration "a dog show broke out."

I have no idea why even the most loserly and needy sports fans dig him, but then I don't understand how people could have elected Donald Trump president.

[baseline bum]

Stephen A. Smith made a big deal of saying he didn't like the Spurs' 2005 championship celebration because he said, in a reference to Glenn "Big Dog" Robinson, "a dog show broke out."

I have no idea why even the most loserly and needy sports fans dig him, but then I don't understand how people could have elected Donald Trump president.

I don't get the former but for the latter Trump is exactly what the right wing media has been grooming their audience to want for the last 30 years.

[ace3g]

Grain of salt

Rob Murrows Robmurrows
·
6m
Multiple teams including: The San Antonio Spurs, Dallas Mavericks, New Orleans Pelicans, Memphis Grizzlies, Houston Rockets, Portland Trail Blazers, and Miami Heat have all shown interest in forward Kai Jones, sources tell
@OOSSports

[Leetonidas]

Kai Jones? Seriously? I don't believe that shit :lol

[ginobilized]

Nothing like breaking both legs to help a player get over himself.
Doubtful that there is much real interest on the Spurs part. Dallas has the inside track here. Would give them quite a lineup of bigs with AD, Gafford, & Lively.

[Dejounte]

The guy who has tried to injure Wemby?

[PhantomDashCam]

Stephen A. Smith made a big deal of saying he didn't like the Spurs' 2005 championship celebration because he said, in a reference to Glenn "Big Dog" Robinson, in the celebration "a dog show broke out."

I have no idea why even the most loserly and needy sports fans dig him, but then I don't understand how people could have elected Donald Trump president.

Really? Come on guys. Even just subtracting Trump from the equation for a minute, look at the reality of the alternative.

A party that calls themselves ’Democratic’, launders an unpopular DEI candidate through to the party’s top position without any formal selective process amongst the base, then kicks the President out for reelection due to cognitive failings, (which they denied for years mind you), all the while still pushing some of the most radical, divisive identity politics on a majority of the populous we’ve all seen, who honestly really didn’t care what/who/how said people identify. That is, as long as it isn’t shoved down their throats and they are not demonised/policed/cancelled as a result of their own beliefs/values/flaws…

Batya Ungar-Sargon wrote two key books on these issues:
‘Bad News:How woke media is undermining democracy’ and ‘Second Class:How the elites betrayed Americas Working Men and Women’

[Mr. Body]

Really? Come on guys. Even just subtracting Trump from the equation for a minute, look at the reality of the alternative.

A party that calls themselves ’Democratic’, launders an unpopular DEI candidate through to the party’s top position without any formal selective process amongst the base, then kicks the President out for reelection due to cognitive failings, (which they denied for years mind you), all the while still pushing some of the most radical, divisive identity politics on a majority of the populous we’ve all seen, who honestly really didn’t care what/who/how said people identify. That is, as long as it isn’t shoved down their throats and they are not demonised/policed/cancelled as a result of their own beliefs/values/flaws…

Batya Ungar-Sargon wrote two key books on these issues:
‘Bad News:How woke media is undermining democracy’ and ‘Second Class:How the elites betrayed Americas Working Men and Women’

This is a seriously stupid post.

[Sugus]

Really? Come on guys. Even just subtracting Trump from the equation for a minute, look at the reality of the alternative.

But that's the whole point, is it not? You can't hand-waive just how disastrous of a candidate Donald Trump was in the last election -- the fact that a majority of Americans could not understand the terrible danger they were putting themselves, and the world, through by voting for him, is the whole point.

And as expected by most, he has gone on to sow discord, chaos and upheaval both in his own country, and the world at large; has fucked over billions in international trade middling, politic games, not to mention his support of Russia in the war with Ukraine, the Musk fiasco, taking the USA out of key international institutions, pushing the US economy towards fossil fuel dependency............. The ICE shit with the normalization of hunting down legal citizens of the "freest country in the world" and throwing them in shanty prisons.........................

...Not to mention Epstein.

If you can explain how "identity politics" or a "lack of democracy in the primary candidate selection" were a worse choice than this, you'll have won a seat in the US Congress, tbh :lol

[BacktoBasics]

Really? Come on guys. Even just subtracting Trump from the equation for a minute, look at the reality of the alternative.

A party that calls themselves ’Democratic’, launders an unpopular DEI candidate through to the party’s top position without any formal selective process amongst the base, then kicks the President out for reelection due to cognitive failings, (which they denied for years mind you), all the while still pushing some of the most radical, divisive identity politics on a majority of the populous we’ve all seen, who honestly really didn’t care what/who/how said people identify. That is, as long as it isn’t shoved down their throats and they are not demonised/policed/cancelled as a result of their own beliefs/values/flaws…

Batya Ungar-Sargon wrote two key books on these issues:
‘Bad News:How woke media is undermining democracy’ and ‘Second Class:How the elites betrayed Americas Working Men and Women’

The moment you use "DEI" you sound like a moron.

Fucking cult members. You people are so fucking annoying. Go the fuck away.

[Mr. Body]

But that's the whole point, is it not? You can't hand-waive just how disastrous of a candidate Donald Trump was in the last election -- the fact that a majority of Americans could not understand the terrible danger they were putting themselves, and the world, through by voting for him, is the whole point.

And as expected by most, he has gone on to sow discord, chaos and upheaval both in his own country, and the world at large; has fucked over billions in international trade middling, politic games, not to mention his support of Russia in the war with Ukraine, the Musk fiasco, taking the USA out of key international institutions, pushing the US economy towards fossil fuel dependency............. The ICE shit with the normalization of hunting down legal citizens of the "freest country in the world" and throwing them in shanty prisons.........................

...Not to mention Epstein.

If you can explain how "identity politics" or a "lack of democracy in the primary candidate selection" were a worse choice than this, you'll have won a seat in the US Congress, tbh :lol

Trump and his team busted into Arlington National Cemetery for a photo op -- illegal to do -- throwing grinning thumbs-up over the graves of the dead soldiers. He performed fake fellatio on a microphone at a rally. He talked at length about how big Arnold Palmer's dick was. He kept talking about how immigrants were sneaking into people's yards to eat their pets. He claimed that kindergartners were pooping in boxes of kitty litter. His speech was filled with garbled nonsense that they claimed was a 'weave,' where he couldn't keep on any topic whatsoever. He brought a woman who insists that 9/11 was an inside job (Laura Loomer) to the 9/11 Memorial event.

The list is endless.

The worst campaign in US history was run by this decrepit asshole moron, yet he was constantly sane-washed by the media. None of this was allowed to break through unless you paid attention. The NYT was like "Trump gives a nuanced portrayal of his foreign policy" as their headline and if you actually watched any of it, the man was completely off his rocker.

And people want to say Kamala was a 'woke' 'DEI' hire. Lol, get the fuck out of here. The elites wanted this garbage asshole clown elected and now it's incinerating the country.

[Sugus]

Trump and his team busted into Arlington National Cemetery for a photo op -- illegal to do -- throwing grinning thumbs-up over the graves of the dead soldiers. He performed fake fellatio on a microphone at a rally. He talked at length about how big Arnold Palmer's dick was. He kept talking about how immigrants were sneaking into people's yards to eat their pets. He claimed that kindergartners were pooping in boxes of kitty litter. His speech was filled with garbled nonsense that they claimed was a 'weave,' where he couldn't keep on any topic whatsoever. He brought a woman who insists that 9/11 was an inside job (Laura Loomer) to the 9/11 Memorial event.

The list is endless.

The worst campaign in US history was run by this decrepit asshole moron, yet he was constantly sane-washed by the media. None of this was allowed to break through unless you paid attention. The NYT was like "Trump gives a nuanced portrayal of his foreign policy" as their headline and if you actually watched any of it, the man was completely off his rocker.

And people want to say Kamala was a 'woke' 'DEI' hire. Lol, get the fuck out of here. The elites wanted this garbage asshole clown elected and now it's incinerating the country.

Yeah, it was and continues to be a fascinating shitshow to watch (thankfully) from afar.

During the elections run-up, I was under the naive impression that Americans, having already gone through a Trump presidency and the complete fiasco of his COVID handling, which seemed to single-handedly lose him the re-election, simply could not be stupid enough to vote him in once again. The felony convictions, the pornstar scandal..... It just seemed impossibly "anti-presidential".

Lo and behold, America. The world bears witness.

[Sugus]

On a related side-note; I have a personal friend who's a US citizen and has lived there for almost 10 years, and was interested on his take since he could actually vote in the upcoming election.

He was completely unaware that Trump had bankrupted any businesses at all, let alone 6 casinos, and fully under the impression that the US needed a "strong and business-oriented leader" to "right the ship", and a woman like Kamala could not get it done (which is doubly funny since we're both from a country that has elected and re-elected a woman as President).


Fast-forward to this week -- he announces out of the blue that he's getting married. The first reason he lists? Getting papers for his girlfriend. Talked about doing a quick wedding, but still taking photos - as "evidence" - was shocking to hear. Talking about speeding up the process as much as possible...

I don't know if Americans realize just how much their country has been changed - the former "land of the free".

[KobesAchilles]

On a related side-note; I have a personal friend who's a US citizen and has lived there for almost 10 years, and was interested on his take since he could actually vote in the upcoming election.

He was completely unaware that Trump had bankrupted any businesses at all, let alone 6 casinos, and fully under the impression that the US needed a "strong and business-oriented leader" to "right the ship", and a woman like Kamala could not get it done (which is doubly funny since we're both from a country that has elected and re-elected a woman as President).


Fast-forward to this week -- he announces out of the blue that he's getting married. The first reason he lists? Getting papers for his girlfriend. Talked about doing a quick wedding, but still taking photos - as "evidence" - was shocking to hear. Talking about speeding up the process as much as possible...

I don't know if Americans realize just how much their country has been changed - the former "land of the free".
Feel it more on the state level tbh. Texas has become a shitshow under Abbott. There’s a couple of frustrating things I have when it comes to politics. The first is when a person claims to be either a Republican or a Democrat. I immediately check out from them and their stances bc unless they are literally serving in the party they are neither. Now they may be a fan of views of one party but they aren’t fucking a republican or a democrat. It’s like me saying I’m a member of the San Antonio Spurs bc I’m a fan of them. I have season tickets to the games even, so how am I not a member of the Spurs? The exact same thing with politics. Unless you’re an actual elected official (or running) then gtfoh with this I’m a Republican or a Democrat.

I also hate the whole well all politicians are guilty shit. It makes zero sense. It’s literally the response to every bad thing a party member has done. Take a guy like Ken Paxton. Dude was literally found guilty of fraud by his own peers. Has many other lawsuits against him for corruption, had to pay restitution for what he did and do community service all as part of plea deal. And instead of outing him out of office, the response it well Democrats are guilty of this too. In the old days if you were dirty and got busted you were kicked to the curb. Even if others were doing it, you knew the risks and took them anyway and if you got caught then you were cut. Now it’s like we get all the information, prosecute it, and then when it comes time to cut bait we just let the whole thing slide under the guise of “well the other party is guilty too.” It doesn’t make sense bc it’s not like by kicking out Paxton we are replacing him with a Democrat. You’re replacing him with another fucking Republican. So why even bring up democrats? Just kick him out.

As a Texan I am beyond embarrassed that we will have Paxton as our next senator. Im embarrassed that we have Cruz as a Senator. The dude literally ran away from Texas during the power outage crisis that we faced where people froze to death and millions were without power. That’s who we are voting to represent us. Even if you align yourself with Republican views, fine but just get another republican. Sorry but when you run away from a crisis that involves the entire state where millions of people need help then I don’t think you deserve to represent us anymore. But apparently I’m in the minority.

I’m even more embarrassed that Abbott is our governor. This dude just lets us be butchered like cattle and gives zero fucks. His handling of Uvalde made me just shake with anger. It was just so callous. And his handling of the flood victims was just somehow even more idgaf about any of the victims. He literally compared the death of over 300 people, young children to the game of football. That’s just a level of not having a soul that I’ve never seen before from another human being never mind one who is supposed to represent us. And instead of having any actual morals or dignity or compassion we just keep voting for this guy bc people are “republicans.”

[GAustex]

lol
Rent free

[Spurs Homer]

Feel it more on the state level tbh. Texas has become a shitshow under Abbott. There’s a couple of frustrating things I have when it comes to politics. The first is when a person claims to be either a Republican or a Democrat. I immediately check out from them and their stances bc unless they are literally serving in the party they are neither. Now they may be a fan of views of one party but they aren’t fucking a republican or a democrat. It’s like me saying I’m a member of the San Antonio Spurs bc I’m a fan of them. I have season tickets to the games even, so how am I not a member of the Spurs? The exact same thing with politics. Unless you’re an actual elected official (or running) then gtfoh with this I’m a Republican or a Democrat.

I also hate the whole well all politicians are guilty shit. It makes zero sense. It’s literally the response to every bad thing a party member has done. Take a guy like Ken Paxton. Dude was literally found guilty of fraud by his own peers. Has many other lawsuits against him for corruption, had to pay restitution for what he did and do community service all as part of plea deal. And instead of outing him out of office, the response it well Democrats are guilty of this too. In the old days if you were dirty and got busted you were kicked to the curb. Even if others were doing it, you knew the risks and took them anyway and if you got caught then you were cut. Now it’s like we get all the information, prosecute it, and then when it comes time to cut bait we just let the whole thing slide under the guise of “well the other party is guilty too.” It doesn’t make sense bc it’s not like by kicking out Paxton we are replacing him with a Democrat. You’re replacing him with another fucking Republican. So why even bring up democrats? Just kick him out.

As a Texan I am beyond embarrassed that we will have Paxton as our next senator. Im embarrassed that we have Cruz as a Senator. The dude literally ran away from Texas during the power outage crisis that we faced where people froze to death and millions were without power. That’s who we are voting to represent us. Even if you align yourself with Republican views, fine but just get another republican. Sorry but when you run away from a crisis that involves the entire state where millions of people need help then I don’t think you deserve to represent us anymore. But apparently I’m in the minority.

I’m even more embarrassed that Abbott is our governor. This dude just lets us be butchered like cattle and gives zero fucks. His handling of Uvalde made me just shake with anger. It was just so callous. And his handling of the flood victims was just somehow even more idgaf about any of the victims. He literally compared the death of over 300 people, young children to the game of football. That’s just a level of not having a soul that I’ve never seen before from another human being never mind one who is supposed to represent us. And instead of having any actual morals or dignity or compassion we just keep voting for this guy bc people are “republicans.”


1) Cruz actually WROTE most of the bill to make sure texans did not have advanced warnings of catastrophies like the kerrville floods…and of course voted to defund NOAA, and the NWS…
then took a vacay to Greece and rushed back to lecture people about the “lost children” in the floods..

AND - cocksucking cultist texans will RE-ELECT cruz again (and yes- elect PAXTON also)

2) the GOP just took away healthcare for 17 million americans including republicans who voted for them- and DOUBLED the price of premiums for millions more enrolled in the healthcare exchange….while they lie to the faces of their victims, Fox propaganda will not even report this FACT…

and- piece of shit GOP cultists will vote RED in 2026 because the GOP was sneaky enough to make sure these healthcare cuts will not begin until AFTER the 2026 election…

this country has zero chance to ever thrive again when GOP voters are like chickens voting for Colonel Sanders over and over and over…

[Spurs Homer]

Feel it more on the state level tbh. Texas has become a shitshow under Abbott. There’s a couple of frustrating things I have when it comes to politics. The first is when a person claims to be either a Republican or a Democrat. I immediately check out from them and their stances bc unless they are literally serving in the party they are neither. Now they may be a fan of views of one party but they aren’t fucking a republican or a democrat. It’s like me saying I’m a member of the San Antonio Spurs bc I’m a fan of them. I have season tickets to the games even, so how am I not a member of the Spurs? The exact same thing with politics. Unless you’re an actual elected official (or running) then gtfoh with this I’m a Republican or a Democrat.

I also hate the whole well all politicians are guilty shit. It makes zero sense. It’s literally the response to every bad thing a party member has done. Take a guy like Ken Paxton. Dude was literally found guilty of fraud by his own peers. Has many other lawsuits against him for corruption, had to pay restitution for what he did and do community service all as part of plea deal. And instead of outing him out of office, the response it well Democrats are guilty of this too. In the old days if you were dirty and got busted you were kicked to the curb. Even if others were doing it, you knew the risks and took them anyway and if you got caught then you were cut. Now it’s like we get all the information, prosecute it, and then when it comes time to cut bait we just let the whole thing slide under the guise of “well the other party is guilty too.” It doesn’t make sense bc it’s not like by kicking out Paxton we are replacing him with a Democrat. You’re replacing him with another fucking Republican. So why even bring up democrats? Just kick him out.

As a Texan I am beyond embarrassed that we will have Paxton as our next senator. Im embarrassed that we have Cruz as a Senator. The dude literally ran away from Texas during the power outage crisis that we faced where people froze to death and millions were without power. That’s who we are voting to represent us. Even if you align yourself with Republican views, fine but just get another republican. Sorry but when you run away from a crisis that involves the entire state where millions of people need help then I don’t think you deserve to represent us anymore. But apparently I’m in the minority.

I’m even more embarrassed that Abbott is our governor. This dude just lets us be butchered like cattle and gives zero fucks. His handling of Uvalde made me just shake with anger. It was just so callous. And his handling of the flood victims was just somehow even more idgaf about any of the victims. He literally compared the death of over 300 people, young children to the game of football. That’s just a level of not having a soul that I’ve never seen before from another human being never mind one who is supposed to represent us. And instead of having any actual morals or dignity or compassion we just keep voting for this guy bc people are “republicans.”


1) Cruz actually WROTE most of the bill to make sure texans did not have advanced warnings of catastrophies like the kerrville floods…and of course voted to defund NOAA, and the NWS…
then took a vacay to Greece and rushed back to lecture people about the “lost children” in the floods..

AND - cocksucking cultist texans will RE-ELECT cruz again (and yes- elect PAXTON also)

2) the GOP just took away healthcare for 17 million americans including republicans who voted for them- and DOUBLED the price of premiums for millions more enrolled in the healthcare exchange….while they lie to the faces of their victims, Fox propaganda will not even report this FACT…

and- piece of shit GOP cultists will vote RED in 2026 because the GOP was sneaky enough to make sure these healthcare cuts will not begin until AFTER the 2026 election…

this country has zero chance to ever thrive again when GOP voters are like chickens voting for Colonel Sanders over and over and over…

[LeBowen]

Meanwhile...2016 NBA Champion Dahntay Jones was spotted on security cameras digging in his butt and smearing it on the walls of a hotel.

https://streamable.com/vb8ml8

:lmao :lmao :lmao

[ace3g]

Shams Charania ShamsCharania
Japanese guard Yuki Kawamura has agreed to a two-way NBA deal with the Chicago Bulls, sources tell ESPN. Bulls finalized the deal with Kawamura's agents at Wasserman to sign the 5-foot-8 point guard amid a strong summer league

[ace3g]

Shams Charania ShamsCharania
·
2m
BREAKING: Marcus Smart has agreed to a contract buyout with the Washington Wizards and intends to sign a two-year, $11 million deal with the Los Angeles Lakers after clearing waivers, sources tell ESPN. A return to a grand stage for the 2022 NBA Defensive Player of the Year.

Michael Scotto MikeAScotto
·
3m
The Washington Wizards have waived Blake Wesley, league sources told Hoopshype
. Wesley, the 25th pick of the 2022 NBA Draft, was acquired from the San Antonio Spurs in the Kelly Olynyk trade.

[NASpurs]

Shams Charania Sham (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=17672)sCharania
·
2m
BREAKING: Marcus Smart has agreed to a contract buyout with the Washington Wizards and intends to sign a two-year, $11 million deal with the Los Angeles Lakers after clearing waivers, sources tell ESPN. A return to a grand stage for the 2022 NBA Defensive Player of the Year.

Michael Scotto Mike (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7591)AScotto
·
3m
The Washington Wizards have waived Blake Wesley, league sources told Hoops (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=8733)hype
. Wesley, the 25th pick of the 2022 NBA Draft, was acquired from the San Antonio Spurs in the Kelly Olynyk trade.

Imagine keeping Branham over Wesley.

[spurraider21]

Really? Come on guys. Even just subtracting Trump from the equation for a minute, look at the reality of the alternative.

A party that calls themselves ’Democratic’, launders an unpopular DEI candidate through to the party’s top position without any formal selective process amongst the base, then kicks the President out for reelection due to cognitive failings, (which they denied for years mind you), all the while still pushing some of the most radical, divisive identity politics on a majority of the populous we’ve all seen, who honestly really didn’t care what/who/how said people identify. That is, as long as it isn’t shoved down their throats and they are not demonised/policed/cancelled as a result of their own beliefs/values/flaws…

Batya Ungar-Sargon wrote two key books on these issues:
‘Bad News:How woke media is undermining democracy’ and ‘Second Class:How the elites betrayed Americas Working Men and Women’
Once again DEI is only used as a full-in for the n word

[spurraider21]

Wesley

https://media.tenor.com/---sJg423_gAAAAM/dr-evil-hug.gif

[LeBowen]

Damn, good addition for the Lakers. Maybe they make the second round with Smart.

[Raven]

Why would they cut Wesley, he was probably their best player on the roster...

[cutewizard]

Can we get Wesley back?

[tonight...you]

Wesley

https://media.tenor.com/---sJg423_gAAAAM/dr-evil-hug.gif
Awesome

[Spurs Brazil]

Can we get Wesley back?

No, the Spurs are the only team that can't sign him

[Spurs Brazil]

MikeAScotto

Update: Blake Wesley agreed to a buyout with the Wizards to allow the former Spurs first-round pick to become a free agent, sources told Hoopshype
. Wesley, a strong perimeter defender, shot 37% on threes in the second half last season and expects to land in a new role elsewhere.

[ace3g]

Rob Murrows Robmurrows
·
9s
BREAKING: The Los Angeles Lakers are planning to waive guard Shake Milton, in a corresponding move, sources confirmed to
@OOSSports

[Dejounte]

But that's the whole point, is it not? You can't hand-waive just how disastrous of a candidate Donald Trump was in the last election -- the fact that a majority of Americans could not understand the terrible danger they were putting themselves, and the world, through by voting for him, is the whole point.

And as expected by most, he has gone on to sow discord, chaos and upheaval both in his own country, and the world at large; has fucked over billions in international trade middling, politic games, not to mention his support of Russia in the war with Ukraine, the Musk fiasco, taking the USA out of key international institutions, pushing the US economy towards fossil fuel dependency............. The ICE shit with the normalization of hunting down legal citizens of the "freest country in the world" and throwing them in shanty prisons.........................

...Not to mention Epstein.

If you can explain how "identity politics" or a "lack of democracy in the primary candidate selection" were a worse choice than this, you'll have won a seat in the US Congress, tbh :lol

Nope, mUh fIgHt aGaInsY IdEntItY PoLitiCs matters more than facism. So many of these folks are on the wrong side of history.

[GAustex]

Lol

[tbdog]

Can we get Wesley back?

No. That rule changed yonks ago. He'll have to sign or be traded to another team first or wait a year.

[cutewizard]

Bol Bol could be fodder lol

[cutewizard]

https://youtu.be/eOF0SIKqVfk?si=CBM6T0yf-fIWJesn

[Uriel]

Shame. Would’ve loved to have Wesley back. He’s still incredibly young and his upside remains high, if he pans out.

[Ice009]

Would you guys have preferred Wesley (if he didn't have to be thrown in for salary filler) over JMac?

[Mr. Body]

Tryna read the tea leaves after the last game, who played, etc.

Seems like Minix is on the roster, which is good. He's what you want from a third string backup.

I'm not sure about Ingram. I think they like him a ton. Smart connective player. He's probably going to make some money playing for teams in Europe. Just don't think he's an NBA guy.

DJG, it looks like they're taking a pass on, my guess. Earlier I thought the SAS couldn't let him slip away, an aggressive scorer with other abilities. Now I think he may be looking for a bigger role elsewhere than the league, which makes sense.

What happens with the last slots is a bit of a mystery here.

[Uriel]

Tryna read the tea leaves after the last game, who played, etc.

Seems like Minix is on the roster, which is good. He's what you want from a third string backup.

I'm not sure about Ingram. I think they like him a ton. Smart connective player. He's probably going to make some money playing for teams in Europe. Just don't think he's an NBA guy.

DJG, it looks like they're taking a pass on, my guess. Earlier I thought the SAS couldn't let him slip away, an aggressive scorer with other abilities. Now I think he may be looking for a bigger role elsewhere than the league, which makes sense.

What happens with the last slots is a bit of a mystery here.
I think it will come down to whether DJG would accept a two way, and if not, then he’ll go elsewhere.

[RC_Drunkford]

Might be. Smith apologized when he found out Big Dog's mother died but if he had done any research before running his fat mouth he could have avoided sounding like an idiot. All of us that follow the Spurs knew that's why he he missed those Finals games but Stephen A thought it was for no good reason as if he would have left the team to go to Vegas or something. I'll always be grateful to Big Dog for that banner and don't think the Spurs would have won it without his performance in Game 1.

Big Dog and Nazr Mohammed were the unsung heroes of that title run tbh

[ace3g]

Shams Charania ShamsCharania
·
10m
The Los Angeles Lakers have waived guard Jordan Goodwin, sources tell ESPN. Goodwin emerged as a key rotation piece for JJ Redick late last season, playing 29 games and four playoff contests. Goodwin and Shake Milton were released to clear space for arrival of Marcus Smart.

[Uriel]

Wherever he goes, Knueppel is just a winner.

[Mr. Body]

This is the first trophy of any kind Charlotte has ever won. They've never even won a division title before.

[sfernald]

This is the first trophy of any kind Charlotte has ever won. They've never even won a division title before.

Knueppel and McNeeley look like pretty good picks so far.

[BatManu20]

Should've chosen Denver imo but oh well. Good for him tbh.

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[LeBowen]

Chris Paul 1985
Brook Lopez 1988
Nicolas Batum 1988
James Harden 1989
nephew 1991
Bogdan Bogdanovic 1992
Kris Dunn 1994
Derrick Jones Jr 1997
Ivica Zubac 1997
John Collins 1997

One of the oldest rotations ever.

[dn0774]

Should've chosen Denver imo but oh well. Good for him tbh.

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Yea, Denver if you squint hard enough actually has a sliver of a chance at a ring, Clippers have none. I am guessing the decision came down to location entirely.

[mo7888]

Knueppel and McNeeley look like pretty good picks so far.

If they can move off Melo they might be ready to start building something..

[LeBowen]

Yea, Denver if you squint hard enough actually has a sliver of a chance at a ring

A chance?
They're the biggest threat to OKC as of now.
Took them all the way to 7 games with 6.5 men rotation.
They replaced Russ and MPJ with Cam Johnson, Valanciunas, THJ and Bruce Brown.
If they can stay healthy, I'd say OKC-DEN series would be a 50-50 matchup.

[Leetonidas]

Yea, Denver if you squint hard enough actually has a sliver of a chance at a ring, Clippers have none. I am guessing the decision came down to location entirely.

Disagree. Nuggets have more than a sliver. The Clippers also have a sliver themselves. They're old as fuck but if they're healthy playoff time (unlikely) and gelling they also have a solid shot. They were solid this last season and improved a lot of their weaknesses over the summer

[Trueblood]

I think it will come down to whether DJG would accept a two way, and if not, then he’ll go elsewhere.

I just read that he turned down the offers from Europe because he wants to play in the NBA. At this point you have to think the Spurs have at least offered him a two way but he’s holding out for an offer from a team he can get more playing time on.

[ChumpDumper]

A chance?
They're the biggest threat to OKC as of now.
Took them all the way to 7 games with 6.5 men rotation.
They replaced Russ and MPJ with Cam Johnson, Valanciunas, THJ and Bruce Brown.
If they can stay healthy, I'd say OKC-DEN series would be a 50-50 matchup.
Nuggets still need more playmaking outside of Jokic and sometimes Murray. Way too easy for OKC to gum up the works.

[ace3g]

Shams Charania ShamsCharania
·
6m
Free agent Doug McDermott has agreed to a one-year, $3.6 million deal to return to the Sacramento Kings, Mark Bartelstein and Andy Shiffman of
@PrioritySports
tell ESPN. McDermott will enter his 12th NBA season after shooting 44% from 3 in 42 Kings games in 2024-25.

[Drom John]

Tryna read the tea leaves after the last game, who played, etc.

Dennis played the most. My read is that Dennis will get a training camp invite and if Dexter doesn't get a two-way, he'll be offered an Austin spot.

[J_Paco]

MikeAScotto

Update: Blake Wesley agreed to a buyout with the Wizards to allow the former Spurs first-round pick to become a free agent, sources told Hoopshype
. Wesley, a strong perimeter defender, shot 37% on threes in the second half last season and expects to land in a new role elsewhere.


No, the Spurs are the only team that can't sign him
Sucks that we can't bring him back, but he'd be too redundant and unable to get even spot minutes in San Antonio (Fox, Harper, Castle & McLaughlin in front of or competing with him).

Hope he signs with Orlando, Milwaukee or Brooklyn (maybe Cleveland if Lonzo can't stay healthy) where he can possibly get meaningful backup minutes.

[TD 21]

Disagree. Nuggets have more than a sliver. The Clippers also have a sliver themselves. They're old as fuck but if they're healthy playoff time (unlikely) and gelling they also have a solid shot. They were solid this last season and improved a lot of their weaknesses over the summer

I don't know why people are presuming their myriad geriatrics will maintain for another season and even if they do, they don't have an MVP caliber player, there isn't any reason to think their best player can last through a playoff run or that their second best one won't no-show when it matters most.

I don't care how recognizable the names are or how good they look in stretches, no team has earned less benefit of the doubt than them.



Nuggets still need more playmaking outside of Jokic and sometimes Murray. Way too easy for OKC to gum up the works.

Yeah. Despite having an open roster spot, given their proximity to the first apron, they can't sign a veteran's minimum type unless they dump salary (probably Tyson) first or wait until midseason.

Even though they won a championship 2+ years ago with Brown as the nominal backup PG, that was with Murray playing the best ball of his life, less mileage on the core and no team the caliber of the Thunder in the way.

It's unlikely the former and Pickett will be sufficient now.

[scott]

Dallas seems like it would be a good destination for Blake. Never like seeing any of our guys become Mavs, but he seems like a good dude and I hope he ends up in a good spot.

[dn0774]

A chance?
They're the biggest threat to OKC as of now.
Took them all the way to 7 games with 6.5 men rotation.
They replaced Russ and MPJ with Cam Johnson, Valanciunas, THJ and Bruce Brown.
If they can stay healthy, I'd say OKC-DEN series would be a 50-50 matchup.

"Sliver" was an exaggeration, fair enough. 50-50 if healthy? Can't get there. OKC won 68 games while missing Chet most of the season, just not going to be fooled by a solid Denver 7 game series. Strange things happen in the playoffs; Hawks took a dominant Boston team to 7 in 2008, Mavs took Spurs to 7 in 2014, I wouldn't consider those teams "close" to the teams they took to 7.

OKC is also full of players on upward trajectories, can't say that for Denver though I do like their off season for sure. Honest question, who has a better chance at ring next year: OKC or the field?

[dn0774]

Disagree. Nuggets have more than a sliver. The Clippers also have a sliver themselves. They're old as fuck but if they're healthy playoff time (unlikely) and gelling they also have a solid shot. They were solid this last season and improved a lot of their weaknesses over the summer

I really enjoyed the Clips this season. Everyone expected them to hand deliver another lottery pick to OKC and they shut us all up. That being said, James Harden and playing well in big games are like oil and water.

[tbdog]

Dallas seems like it would be a good destination for Blake. Never like seeing any of our guys become Mavs, but he seems like a good dude and I hope he ends up in a good spot.

I think Mavs roster is full. I recall they had to move off someone to resign Exum.

[Guru of Nothing]

Maybe Chris Paul can smuggle Wesley onto the Clippers roster. They could use an extra whippersnapper.

[Mr. Body]

Maybe Chris Paul can smuggle Wesley onto the Clippers roster. They could use an extra whippersnapper.

He'll want to eat later than the late afternoon buffet and may move around in the hotel corridor after bedtime at 8pm. Can't have that.

[tbdog]

So essentially the league goes into hiatus until training camp and media days.

We get to see Sochan is the Euro tournament and that's it?

[mo7888]

Wesley to Portland

[spurraider21]

Wesley to Portland
they were short on point guards

[John B]

So essentially the league goes into hiatus until training camp and media days.

We get to see Sochan is the Euro tournament and that's it?

You can always watch Caitlyn Clark pump up the crowd

[Mr. Body]

So essentially the league goes into hiatus until training camp and media days.

We get to see Sochan is the Euro tournament and that's it?

The Kuminga thing needs a landing. Otherwise there will be small moves, that's it.

[TimmyBuckets]

I like this team as is. 3 playmakers, some shooters, great depth at the guard and big man positions, and 2 stars. This is a balanced team. Sure there are some things in the air, but we were arguably a play-in team with healthy Wemby last year and now we’re a lot better and Fox and Wemby can actually get a full season together. We can sign Minix I guess but this is likely what we’re rolling with. I expect our defense to be a lot better and our offense to skyrocket.

[John B]

I like this team as is. 3 playmakers, some shooters, great depth at the guard and big man positions, and 2 stars. This is a balanced team. Sure there are some things in the air, but we were arguably a play-in team with healthy Wemby last year and now we’re a lot better and Fox and Wemby can actually get a full season together. We can sign Minix I guess but this is likely what we’re rolling with. I expect our defense to be a lot better and our offense to skyrocket.

I agree. Any changes or tweaks will come by trade deadline or waivers where the team is going into the playoffs

[ace3g]

Shams Charania ShamsCharania
·
35s
Free agent forward Josh Okogie has agreed to a one-year, $3.1 million deal with the Houston Rockets, sources tell ESPN. Okogie enters his 8th NBA season and gives the Rockets another active wing defender who has averaged 6.3 points over 416 games.

[John B]

Shams Charania Sham (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=17672)sCharania
·
35s
Free agent forward Josh Okogie has agreed to a one-year, $3.1 million deal with the Houston Rockets, sources tell ESPN. Okogie enters his 8th NBA season and gives the Rockets another active wing defender who has averaged 6.3 points over 416 games.

I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s Rockettes vs Thunder in WCF. Ime will shape this Rockettes team to a defensive juggernaut in preparation for that matchup. I hate it :lol

[Ariel]

Wesley to Portland
First Sidy, now Blake... they're waiting for every recent Spurs draftee to become available to snatch them.

[rjv]

So essentially the league goes into hiatus until training camp and media days.

We get to see Sochan is the Euro tournament and that's it?

yeah. we're in the doldrums now. thank god for my wednesday night old man league.

[scott]

Fox, Sochan and (maybe) Champ and (maybe) Barnes extensions, and two end-of-bench roster spots is what's left of our business this summer.

I expect Fox extension in early August as soon as that window opens.

Sochan probably during pre-season unless they plan on letting him play a prove-it season.

Champ i don't think will happen because as a FA he can probably command more than his extension would allow.

Barnes is one of those things that could just come out of nowhere and surprise us if it happens.

[spurraider21]

Fox, Sochan and (maybe) Champ and (maybe) Barnes extensions, and two end-of-bench roster spots is what's left of our business this summer.

I expect Fox extension in early August as soon as that window opens.

Sochan probably during pre-season unless they plan on letting him play a prove-it season.

Champ i don't think will happen because as a FA he can probably command more than his extension would allow.

Barnes is one of those things that could just come out of nowhere and surprise us if it happens.
barnes would happen after the deadline tbh. i dont think they want to tack on years to a potential trade chip

[Poolboy5623]

I like this team as is. 3 playmakers, some shooters, great depth at the guard and big man positions, and 2 stars. This is a balanced team. Sure there are some things in the air, but we were arguably a play-in team with healthy Wemby last year and now we’re a lot better and Fox and Wemby can actually get a full season together. We can sign Minix I guess but this is likely what we’re rolling with. I expect our defense to be a lot better and our offense to skyrocket.

AND the little minutes thief is gone! Its going to be great!

[spurraider21]

DJG signed to a 2-way, so we still have 2 big league roster spots yet and no obvious candidates

[cutewizard]

Hopefully we can get another big

[Mr. Body]

Mystery what those two last slots are for. The Kuminga business is still to be done and some rosters are still too full, I believe. Maybe they hope some players become available.

[Ariel]

Justin Champagnie did well last year in Washington, but now they're overflowing with higher priority wing prospects (Tre Johnson, Coulibaly, Cam Whitmore, Kyshawn George, Riley, Kispert), maybe send them a (mediocre) SRP and absorb him into the remainder of the NTMLE and reunite the brothers?

[exstatic]

Justin Champagnie did well last year in Washington, but now they're overflowing with higher priority wing prospects (Tre Johnson, Coulibaly, Cam Whitmore, Kyshawn George, Riley, Kispert), maybe send them a (mediocre) SRP and absorb him into the remainder of the NTMLE and reunite the brothers?

No. If they’re that overloaded, they’ll cut him. No need to send an asset.

[SpursGenius]

DJG signed to a 2-way, so we still have 2 big league roster spots yet and no obvious candidates
who got the other two two way spots ? Minix and Ingram ?

[ace3g]

Shams Charania Sham (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=17672)sCharania
·
35s
Free agent forward Josh Okogie has agreed to a one-year, $3.1 million deal with the Houston Rockets, sources tell ESPN. Okogie enters his 8th NBA season and gives the Rockets another active wing defender who has averaged 6.3 points over 416 games.


Ary Ary_Report
·
5h
The San Antonio Spurs, Detroit Pistons, Atlanta Hawks, and the Los Angeles Lakers also showed interest before Okogie and his representation chose Houston as Okogie’s next destination, league sources say.

[mo7888]

who got the other two two way spots ? Minix and Ingram ?

Lindy Waters got one of them..

[exstatic]

Lindy Waters got one of them..

It wasn’t stated that was a 2 way in the signing announcement. Do you have a link to an article or tweet?

[sfernald]

It wasn’t stated that was a 2 way in the signing announcement. Do you have a link to an article or tweet?

Im pretty sure it was a vet min contract not a two way.

[exstatic]

Im pretty sure it was a vet min contract not a two way.

That’s what I thought, since the guy has played 4 NBA seasons already.

[Obstructed_View]

ESPN has an article about every team's worst recent draft move. I was like, "I don't think the Spurs have made a bad..."



Joshua Primo

Oh yeah. :lol

[RC_Drunkford]

so has anybody else here heard the rumor that Jalen Green got traded cause Ime was texting his girl trying to smash? :lol

[Seventyniner]

so has anybody else here heard the rumor that Jalen Green got traded cause Ime was texting his girl trying to smash? :lol

That would be wild, but it made sense to include him in the trade anyway. Green would have been a net negative on that team.

[Ice009]

so has anybody else here heard the rumor that Jalen Green got traded cause Ime was texting his girl trying to smash? :lol

Darn. Where is that rumour coming from? Doesn't look like what happened in Boston has slowed down Ime if that is true.

[poopbox]

so has anybody else here heard the rumor that Jalen Green got traded cause Ime was texting his girl trying to smash? :lol

Not surprised. She's closer to his age than Jalens

[ace3g]

https://x.com/Ary_Report/status/1948154522272198934


Rob Murrows Robmurrows
·
8m
The Indiana Pacers have withdwarn the two-way qualifying offer for forward Enrique Freeman, per source. Freeman is now an unrestricted free agent.

[ace3g]

Rob Murrows Robmurrows
·
11s
The Phoenix Suns are nearing a deal with free agent guard Jared Butler, sources tell
@OOSSports


Shams Charania ShamsCharania
·
56s
Free agent guard Jared Butler has agreed to a one-year deal with the Phoenix Suns, Mark Bartelstein and Kieran Piller of
@PrioritySports
tell ESPN. The 2021 second-rounder averaged 9 points in 17 minutes per game over 60 contests for the 76ers and Wizards last season.

[BatManu20]

Wes already making history.

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[spurraider21]

im not that high on Precious but you could do a heck of a lot worse than him for your 15th roster spot

i wonder if they are waiting/hoping for Love to be bought out as we could use one more PF (and not a SF masquerading as a PF like Barnes/Keldon)

[ace3g]

Shams Charania ShamsCharania
·
1m
The Detroit Pistons are signing G/F Colby Jones on a two-way NBA contract, sources tell ESPN. Jones, 23, averaged 8.7 points, 4.3 rebounds, 2.5 assists and 1.3 steals in the final two months of 2024-25, showing flashes as a productive rotation player in his second NBA season.

[Guru of Nothing]

Still have eyes open for Sam Hauser, assuming Boston is motivated to shed salary for 2025. Not readily familiar with Spurs current salary situation, maybe we're queing the roster with cheap contracts for a deal with Boston. Feel like acquiring Hauser could smooth out some roster construction issues and loosen up more moves.

[Ariel]

Still have eyes open for Sam Hauser, assuming Boston is motivated to shed salary for 2025. Not readily familiar with Spurs current salary situation, maybe we're queing the roster with cheap contracts for a deal with Boston. Feel like acquiring Hauser could smooth out some roster construction issues and loosen up more moves.
Spurs can't absorb his salary (10 million) into what's left of the NTMLE after signing Kornet, if Boston is interested in dumping Hauser Spurs would have to pay a third team to take on at least 8 million from the Spurs, which is hard after trading Wesley and Branham, right now you're probably talking about Sochan and Champagnie going out which defeats the purpuse. Or maybe a more complicated trade with another team with cap space (Brooklyn) taking in some salary from the Spurs (Barnes, Keldon but it would be more expensive) and perhaps sending something else. After signing Kornet using the NTMLE and trading Branham and Wesley this proposal is much more difficult.

[exstatic]

im not that high on Precious but you could do a heck of a lot worse than him for your 15th roster spot

i wonder if they are waiting/hoping for Love to be bought out as we could use one more PF (and not a SF masquerading as a PF like Barnes/Keldon)

Love’s game fell off a fucking cliff last year. He’s washed.

[mo7888]

It wasn’t stated that was a 2 way in the signing announcement. Do you have a link to an article or tweet?

Good catch..