There’s Washed Up Role Player to the Spurs buzz

[Dejounte]

https://x.com/maximeaubin1/status/1937545369073676773?s=46

“We’re not going to skip steps…”

The Spurs repeatedly tell us who they are and we never learn!

200 pages. Let’s go.

[scottspurs]

He might have something left in the tank. Plus he only has 4 years left on his deal. If it doesn’t work out we can buy him out.

[scott]

He might have something left in the tank. Plus he only has 4 years left on his deal. If it doesn’t work out we can buy him out.

The fact that he'll only require a promise to start all 82 games at a position where we have better players is a huge plus

[Seventyniner]

Even though I wanted KD, I'm okay with the Spurs not chasing stars. Wemby is already there, Fox should be borderline All-Star, Castle's 95% scenario of multi time All-Star is still on the table, and Harper might really be That Guy.

Use the picks and exceptions to get a legit backup 5 and upgrade the role players at forward.

[spurraider21]

“We’re not going to skip steps…”

The Spurs repeatedly tell us who they are and we never learn!

200 pages. Let’s go.
it was only a few months ago they traded 3 first round picks for Fox

[Dejounte]

it was only a few months ago they traded 3 first round picks for Fox

In the article, the question asked was, “Will you chase stars?”. In that context, this is what I think the Spurs won’t do. Fox wasn’t somebody they chased, IMO.

[RC_Drunkford]

If they don’t make a trade this offseason this team won‘t make the playoffs. They are still operating like they are a 50-win team when in reality they have become a losing organisation

[LeBowen]

If they don’t make a trade this offseason this team won‘t make the playoffs. They are still operwting like they are a 50-win team when they have become a losing organisation

I'm against any big moves, but getting a legit PF for the starting lineup and a legit backup rim protector is a must.
We could use SF improvements, but that one is optional.

One of Keldon/Barnes/Devin simply has to go and make room for a legit PF.

[RC_Drunkford]

Starting PF and back up C is the bare minimum. But why trade when they can sign Yabusele and Mason Plumlee while keep the friendship crew together?

[scott]

Even though I wanted KD, I'm okay with the Spurs not chasing stars. Wemby is already there, Fox should be borderline All-Star, Castle's 95% scenario of multi time All-Star is still on the table, and Harper might really be That Guy.

Use the picks and exceptions to get a legit backup 5 and upgrade the role players at forward.

Yep, I think we could make a big leap by simply using our picks along with the MLE and BAE assuming that backup C and another option at the 4 are included in that. I don't adhere to the same philosophy that we must make a significant trade this offseason.

[spurraider21]

Yep, I think we could make a big leap by simply using our picks along with the MLE and BAE assuming that backup C and another option at the 4 are included in that. I don't adhere to the same philosophy that we must make a significant trade this offseason.
unless there was a giannis conversation, i dont think im in favor of the spurs trading any future FRP this offseason

[SpursFan86]

Yep, I think we could make a big leap by simply using our picks along with the MLE and BAE assuming that backup C and another option at the 4 are included in that. I don't adhere to the same philosophy that we must make a significant trade this offseason.

For sure. For me it comes down to what the rotation looks like next year more so than the specific moves made. If our minutes distribution more or less looks the same (Keldon still getting 20+ mpg, Barnes still getting 25+ mpg, Champagnie still getting 20+ mpg, etc.) then that’s just unacceptable IMO.

If we actually use pick 14 on a rookie who can earn somewhat noticeable playing time, then great. Same goes for using the MLE/BAE on guys who will actually have a role. If they do all of those things and cut down on minutes given to others then I think we’re doing just fine.

If our rotation pretty much just looks like it did last year but we’re banking on Fox/Wembg being healthy + Harper coming in…that’s where I’m less happy.

edit: To be clear, I think it's entirely possible we make a big leap even with that final scenario (rotation being the same aside from Fox/Wemby being healthy and adding Harper)...I just don't like the idea of us banking on those things alone. I 100% think we should pursue other means of improvement on top of that.

[John B]

https://x.com/maximeaubin1/status/1937545369073676773?s=46

“We’re not going to skip steps…”

The Spurs repeatedly tell us who they are and we never learn!

200 pages. Let’s go.

Max players no, but solid role players yes.

But again the Spurs don’t easily give up on their players, if they can get them in a better situation (Tre and Zollins playing more minutes with the Bulls). Even Lonnie long enough for him to earn his next gig. So I’m really doubtful anybody’s going to get moved if the FO can help it.

[spursistan]

Realtalk: i don't understand Batmanu's urge to open a thread for every random rumor linking a role player or a second-tier washed up star to the Spurs. By now, we all know Spurs are being used as leverage in these talks.

Unless it's KD/Fox caliber of player and Shams /Amick/Stein reporting it, we should just stick to scott all-encompassing offseason thread; otherwise it feel like we're needlessly cluttering up the forum

[LeBowen]

Nuggets’ President Josh Kroenke: “The wrong person gets injured and very quickly you’re under a scenario that I never want to have to contemplate, and that’s trading [Nikola Jokic].”


Brian Wright is playing the long game, tbh.

[mo7888]

Brian Wright is playing the long game, tbh.

Lol...that's the one you push all your chips in for...

[Mr. Body]

it was only a few months ago they traded 3 first round picks for Fox

Shout it louder for thpse in the back.

[Mal]

What else you are going to use those 2nds? Branham and Wesley need vet presence in the locker room.

[Ice009]

He might have something left in the tank. Plus he only has 4 years left on his deal. If it doesn’t work out we can buy him out.

Who are you referring to here? Vassell?

[RC_Drunkford]

unless there was a giannis conversation, i dont think im in favor of the spurs trading any future FRP this offseason

the thing is there are plenty of players who would be the 3rd to 5th best player on the roster available for second round picks. But we can't break up friends.

[ismael-robert]

Dynasty

[Marcus Bryant]

Your core is 21 and younger with Harper. The Spurs play this right and we’re looking at another decade of being a serious contender.

[Dejounte]

Honestly I made this thread to share the article contained in the tweet, which is locked behind a stupid paywall. Anyone wanna pay for it? :D

[Pauleta14]

1- The idea of having a young core that'd grow together into a contender is stupid, especially with today's CBA and coming from PATFO who's won with a mix of different ages/stages of careers.

2- As much as it entertains us we can forget/stop making threads about trading for a star player. It'll never happen.

3- PATFO sent the message "we like our young core" = They'll never quit on Sochan and Vassell, probably to not admit being wrong in their scouting or bad in their player's developments.

4- Let's not forget we have a rookie coach who by essence will cost the team with stupid decisions/mistakes he has to go through to learn his job.

5- I maintain that Wemby probably ended up in the worst franchise he could've ended with if his goal is to end up in the GOAT discussion.

6- Fuck you PATFO

[Ice009]

Darn, point 5 is not what I expected. Did you only just start thinking this recently?

[kxs783kms]

Your core is 21 and younger with Harper. The Spurs play this right and we’re looking at another decade of being a serious contender.

Spurs fans thinking we're about to have 3 or more superstar players on the same team for a decade or more, has to be the funniest thing ever lol. It's like we're not paying attention to what's currently happening in the NBA right now. I guess we won't understand what's feasible until it's time to start paying these guys that second contract money. Some of us can see it and some can't.

[Guru of Nothing]

1- The idea of having a young core that'd grow together into a contender is stupid, especially with today's CBA and coming from PATFO who's won with a mix of different ages/stages of careers.

It's working for OKC and Indianapolis. Small sample size, I'll admit.

[Rosewood]

1- The idea of having a young core that'd grow together into a contender is stupid, especially with today's CBA and coming from PATFO who's won with a mix of different ages/stages of careers.

2- As much as it entertains us we can forget/stop making threads about trading for a star player. It'll never happen.

3- PATFO sent the message "we like our young core" = They'll never quit on Sochan and Vassell, probably to not admit being wrong in their scouting or bad in their player's developments.

4- Let's not forget we have a rookie coach who by essence will cost the team with stupid decisions/mistakes he has to go through to learn his job.

5- I maintain that Wemby probably ended up in the worst franchise he could've ended with if his goal is to end up in the GOAT discussion.

6- Fuck you PATFO
We get a generation prospect two years ago, last year we drafted the ROTY at #4, we move up and snag the #2 this year to get what many are calling a potential superstar and on draft day this is what you post. You live a miserable life :lol I feel sorry for you dude.

[poopbox]

It's working for OKC and Indianapolis. Small sample size, I'll admit.

Both of those teams runs had just as much to do with luck than anything else. OKC would have lost to a healthy Nuggets team. Knicks eeked out two brain fart wins against the celtics AND their best player got a season ending injury. Celtics went 4 - 0 against the knicks in the regular season and completely smashed them in 2 of those games.

Part of the reason Thibs doesn't have a job is that both the players and front office of the knicks know that shit was pure luck and aint no way they can rely on that type of luck again. One of the best 3 point shooting teams of all time shot nearly historically bad on wide open 3's.

[poopbox]

We get a generation prospect two years ago, last year we drafted the ROTY at #4, we move up and snag the #2 this year to get what many are calling a potential superstar and on draft day this is what you post. You live a miserable life :lol I feel sorry for you dude.

6 straight losing seasons.

What is more likely? Team who already has 6 straight losing seasons has another one? Or team who has 6 straight losing seasons has a winning season and makes the playoffs?

[ambchang]

6 straight losing seasons.

What is more likely? Team who already has 6 straight losing seasons has another one? Or team who has 6 straight losing seasons has a winning season and makes the playoffs?

It depends on the circumstances obviously. Is it a team that has been improving with young players or a team with aging players who are past their primes?

[R. DeMurre]

6 straight losing seasons.

What is more likely? Team who already has 6 straight losing seasons has another one? Or team who has 6 straight losing seasons has a winning season and makes the playoffs?

This question makes no sense. What a team did 6 years ago with DeRozan, Aldridge, Patty Mills, etc., has absolutely zero bearing on what a team with Wemby, Fox, Castle, & others will do.

[Guru of Nothing]

Both of those teams runs had just as much to do with luck than anything else. OKC would have lost to a healthy Nuggets team. Knicks eeked out two brain fart wins against the celtics AND their best player got a season ending injury. Celtics went 4 - 0 against the knicks in the regular season and completely smashed them in 2 of those games.

Part of the reason Thibs doesn't have a job is that both the players and front office of the knicks know that shit was pure luck and aint no way they can rely on that type of luck again. One of the best 3 point shooting teams of all time shot nearly historically bad on wide open 3's.

OKC will probably crush Denver in future playoff matchups; Indy is clear favorite in East with a healthy Haliburton. I'm firmly in thr corner of building a young core.

[Bill_Brasky]

34 wins with Wemby/Fox missing a lot of time and friendship krew having to play a lot gives me some hope. Add Harper, add a couple of decent FAs, and I think we can be a playoff team. But, it's gonna be fucking tough out west. 2-8 seeds last year were separated by only a few games.

[Obstructed_View]

Mario Elie
Kevin Willis
Steve Smith
Jerome Kersey
Danny Ferry
Glenn Robinson

Which of the above washed-up role players would we go back and not acquire?

[spurraider21]

Mario Elie
Kevin Willis
Steve Smith
Jerome Kersey
Danny Ferry
Glenn Robinson

Which of the above washed-up role players would we go back and not acquire?
a title contender adding an old vet to contribute around the edges is not something people here are opposed to

[Obstructed_View]

a title contender adding an old vet to contribute around the edges is not something people here are opposed to
Young teams need to learn how to win. The Spurs legit need a starting caliber forward.

[spurraider21]

Young teams need to learn how to win. The Spurs legit need a starting caliber forward.
how many people here hate harrison barnes?

[Pauleta14]

It's working for OKC and Indianapolis. Small sample size, I'll admit.

There isn't one way to build and win, it's all about circumstances, luck (Okc got Chet and JDub and it chnaged everything) etc


We get a generation prospect two years ago, last year we drafted the ROTY at #4, we move up and snag the #2 this year to get what many are calling a potential superstar and on draft day this is what you post. You live a miserable life :lol I feel sorry for you dude.


You feel sorry for what exactly?

Is it a game where I could feel sorry for you bc you feel sorry for me?

Grow up.

If you're happy with the scouting and players's developement I could feel sorry for you too.

Fun game

[T Park]

Both of those teams runs had just as much to do with luck than anything else. OKC would have lost to a healthy Nuggets team. Knicks eeked out two brain fart wins against the celtics AND their best player got a season ending injury. Celtics went 4 - 0 against the knicks in the regular season and completely smashed them in 2 of those games.

Part of the reason Thibs doesn't have a job is that both the players and front office of the knicks know that shit was pure luck and aint no way they can rely on that type of luck again. One of the best 3 point shooting teams of all time shot nearly historically bad on wide open 3's.


Every champion has some luck.

Absolute bullshit reasoning “well you can’t cite them they were lucky!!!”

[exstatic]

Spurs fans thinking we're about to have 3 or more superstar players on the same team for a decade or more, has to be the funniest thing ever lol. It's like we're not paying attention to what's currently happening in the NBA right now. I guess we won't understand what's feasible until it's time to start paying these guys that second contract money. Some of us can see it and some can't.

You can keep Wemby forever, and Castle and Harper through their second contracts, so, like 8-9 years. Fox gonna have to go after his extension, though.

[kxs783kms]

You can keep Wemby forever, and Castle and Harper through their second contracts, so, like 8-9 years. Fox gonna have to go after his extension, though.

Sounds like you're predicting Harper and Castle or one or the other will be mediocre type players. Because there's no way you believe they're both going to be All-Star caliber players and sign cheap second contracts along with Wemby's massive contract. If they do pan out and you sign all 3, look for your remaining roster to be absolute trash lol. They definitely won't be a competitive team with a trash bench.

[Obstructed_View]

how many people here hate harrison barnes?
I don't think I was all that excited about him, but he has been terrific for the team.