View Full Version : The Freshly Serviced New Jersey Transit Authority Turnstile of Dylan Harper
scott
06-25-2025, 07:17 PM
Welcome to San Antonio.
Breakfast Tacos > Bagels
LeBowen
06-25-2025, 07:18 PM
You actually went with the AI title, disgusting, tbh.
bbarry
06-25-2025, 07:20 PM
I was here!
scott
06-25-2025, 07:20 PM
You actually went with the AI title, disgusting, tbh.
Bitch, this ain't AI... this is one of three original creations I presented in the Future Spur thread.
Respect greatness when it sits in front of you.
benefactor
06-25-2025, 07:21 PM
:danceclub
Thread title is GOAT’d … don’t listen to the haters cuz
scott
06-25-2025, 07:23 PM
Dylan's Mom tho, tbh
Those Harper-Castle matchups in practice are going to be nuts. You just know Castle is going to try to son him, but Harper doesn’t seem like a shrinking violet either. We’re so damn lucky.
Dejounte
06-25-2025, 07:30 PM
https://x.com/harper04_5/status/1938029997874118686?s=46
When i saw ron on his phone on tv i knew this mofo was tweeting
couchman
06-25-2025, 07:33 PM
Well done with this thread
scott
06-25-2025, 07:33 PM
Dylan's Mom tho, tbh
Does she deserve her own thread, tbqh?
dokdok
06-25-2025, 07:34 PM
YES we got him! The team also drafted his mom
Mr. Body
06-25-2025, 07:35 PM
I'm on the Northeast Corridor line, baby! Metaphorically.
Does she deserve her own thread, tbqh?
Something something adobo something something she looks like a spinner
ALL ABOARD - the turnstile.
mo7888
06-25-2025, 07:39 PM
Does she deserve her own thread, tbqh?
Without question
Floyd Pacquiao
06-25-2025, 07:40 PM
What’s his player comp, tbh?
Kneuppel’s mom might need a thread of her too tbh
BatManu20
06-25-2025, 07:42 PM
Wait somebody else came up with this thread name in the other DH thread. Was that you scott? Or was it someone else
Mr. Body
06-25-2025, 07:43 PM
What’s his player comp, tbh?
A bit like James Harden or Cade Cunningham.
benefactor
06-25-2025, 07:43 PM
What’s his player comp, tbh?
James Harden
cutewizard
06-25-2025, 07:44 PM
Welcome to Spurslandddddddddddddddddddddddddd!
Yihaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
cutewizard
06-25-2025, 07:46 PM
The Quest for Six begins!
cutewizard
06-25-2025, 07:46 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ve-1or5Dlc
scott
06-25-2025, 07:47 PM
Wait somebody else came up with this thread name in the other DH thread. Was that you scott (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=150)? Or was it someone else
I came up with it this morning in the Future Spur thread. @Mr Body was the only person who responded, so I went with the one he seconded.
cutewizard
06-25-2025, 07:48 PM
Guys, was that Ron Harper taking a pic?
Ice009
06-25-2025, 07:49 PM
I did ask this weeks ago, but I wonder if the Spurs would get Dylan's mom a job since she's an assistant coach. Maybe with the Austin Spurs or something.
RC_Drunkford
06-25-2025, 07:50 PM
Wait somebody else came up with this thread name in the other DH thread. Was that you scott (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=150)? Or was it someone else
it was Chat GPT
Robz4000
06-25-2025, 07:50 PM
I'm ready to board the Harper train tbh.
scott
06-25-2025, 07:51 PM
it was Chat GPT
Someone else posted ChatGPT generated names, but this was not one of them. Those were formatted differently.
https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=305149&p=11263276&viewfull=1#post11263276
I realize you embarrassed yourself with your sources, but don't go around trying to slander my original content.
Rosewood
06-25-2025, 07:51 PM
I'm ready to board the Harper train tbh. Yup… she’s gorgeous.
cutewizard
06-25-2025, 07:53 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B07F661jz0I
cutewizard
06-25-2025, 08:03 PM
Those Harper-Castle matchups in practice are going to be nuts. You just know Castle is going to try to son him, but Harper doesn’t seem like a shrinking violet either. We’re so damn lucky.
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Also a possibility for three straight ROY.....anything could happen
Floyd Pacquiao
06-25-2025, 08:04 PM
James Harden
Thunder Harden I hope. And not a choking piece of shit
Fox / Harper / Castle is going to be hard for any team to contain, and you can rotate them in and out as needed.
Oh, and there's just Wemby inside.
ace3g
06-25-2025, 08:05 PM
DLVlXCdSqdh
BatManu20
06-25-2025, 08:07 PM
They gave him #2. LFGGGG. Fuck Kawhi!
1938040355041001684
ace3g
06-25-2025, 08:08 PM
https://x.com/EtienneCatalan/status/1938040616887173363
LeBowen
06-25-2025, 08:09 PM
Good shit, fuck nephew once and for all. Shouldn't get mentioned ever again.
Seventyniner
06-25-2025, 08:15 PM
https://x.com/EtienneCatalan/status/1938040616887173363
Fuck yeah. This night just keeps getting better.
RC_Drunkford
06-25-2025, 09:11 PM
Thunder Harden I hope. And not a choking piece of shit
just say Manu
Spurs Brazil
06-25-2025, 09:13 PM
https://x.com/spurs/status/1938057176867582219
Seventyniner
06-25-2025, 09:16 PM
:lol Mitch and Harper having to act like Harper didn't know he was going to SA
mikec
06-25-2025, 09:18 PM
:lol Mitch and Harper having to act like Harper didn't know he was going to SA
haha
Spurs Brazil
06-25-2025, 09:33 PM
https://x.com/spurs/status/1938062731086803186
mikec
06-25-2025, 09:36 PM
https://x.com/spurs/status/1938062731086803186
:lmao
cutewizard
06-25-2025, 11:38 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9M5Ul2-rYW8
Guru of Nothing
06-26-2025, 12:06 AM
Dylan's gonna have to pump his own gas now.
cutewizard
06-26-2025, 12:26 AM
THE MAESTRO
When Dylan matures and reaches his absolute peak, perhaps he will be known as The Maestro........
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1W7uTiOBA4
spursistan
06-26-2025, 01:22 PM
https://x.com/HARPER04_5/status/1938289197867311593
CorrectCrusader
06-26-2025, 01:41 PM
https://x.com/HARPER04_5/status/1938289197867311593
Lucky for all of us Manu is very much involved with the spurs day to day
Ice009
06-26-2025, 02:05 PM
That's cool. Ron actually calling for Manu to spend some time with him. That's a good nudge just in case Manu is busy doing other things, making sure he does spend time with him. I'm sure Manu will regardless, though.
Found this video a little earlier:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sCEpKWqIM4
Spurs Brazil
06-26-2025, 05:14 PM
https://x.com/NBATV/status/1938347485493092860
ace3g
06-26-2025, 07:45 PM
DLV_gcuSfVV
cutewizard
06-26-2025, 08:54 PM
Obviously, Manu as mentor would be incredible......
leftie to leftie......
Obviously, Manu as mentor would be incredible......
leftie to leftie......
In the meantime, hopefully Manu doesn't get deported.
cutewizard
06-27-2025, 12:56 AM
In the meantime, hopefully Manu doesn't get deported.
...........
Hahaha indeed good Sir
cutewizard
06-27-2025, 12:59 AM
I miss Manu.......wonder when we can have a heart and soul with this archetype again,
Got to be one of the best passers in all of basketball history......
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flw6QmGbDE4
Ice009
06-27-2025, 01:47 AM
In the meantime, hopefully Manu doesn't get deported.
Why would he get deported?
cutewizard
06-27-2025, 01:53 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyUwgLVQn9c
ambchang
06-27-2025, 09:07 AM
I miss Manu.......wonder when we can have a heart and soul with this archetype again,
Got to be one of the best passers in all of basketball history......
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flw6QmGbDE4
Surprised to see how many of those passes were to Blair. No surprises none of them went to stone hands Ayers though.
Why would he get deported?
I didn't want to say it but yeah he's white so duh
I didn't want to say it but yeah he's white so duh
Unfortunately, South American is not white in the eyes of those doing the deporting (vs. what we might think) . . .
And . . .
Obviously, Manu as mentor would be incredible......
leftie to leftie......
So he's also a lefty.
Mr. Body
06-27-2025, 09:52 AM
Our weirdo is friends with Argentina's weirdo, so maybe no deportations with that country.
https://x.com/EtienneCatalan/status/1938040616887173363
Retiring Harper's No. 2 would be the sweetest cold-served dish.
Our weirdo is friends with Argentina's weirdo, so maybe no deportations with that country.
Or perhaps even more likely because of that . . .
We wouldn't just deport Manu to Argentina, we would hand him over for disappearing while Kristi Noem posed for a photo op.
Ice009
06-27-2025, 10:26 AM
When are the players going to be introduced/Spurs have the press conference for the draftees? Would Sean Sweeny and Corliss also be introduced (sort of a get to know you), or not really since they're coaches?
Dverde
06-27-2025, 10:27 AM
Wemby and Harper are the 1-2 punch
T Park
06-27-2025, 10:32 AM
When are the players going to be introduced/pressure conference for the draftees? Would Sean Sweeny also be getting some get to know you time there at all, or not really since he's a coach?
id be shocked if you hear from Sean Sweeney before training camp if even then.
Ice009
06-27-2025, 10:33 AM
id be shocked if you hear from Sean Sweeney before training camp if even then.
Yeah thanks. Would Sean and Corliss already be working with the Spurs staff on free agent strategy, or is it likely just to be the current guys working on that stuff?
picnroll
06-27-2025, 10:38 AM
I didn't want to say it but yeah he's white so duh
Doesn’t have any memes memes of Vance or Trump on his phone.
Ice009
06-27-2025, 10:50 AM
Looks like the introductions are set for Saturday.
https://www.facebook.com/Spurs/posts/see-yall-saturday-spurs-famcatch-our-rookies-introductory-press-conference-on-th/1259722295525574/
Should be fun to see. I assume the Spurs will live stream it? Hopefully their equipment is up to snuff.
ace3g
06-27-2025, 08:20 PM
DLbONzJMWhK
scott
06-27-2025, 08:47 PM
Before anyone freaks out... that is a Rutgers #24 tattoo on his arm (his brother's jersey), not a Kobe tattoo.
mudyez
06-27-2025, 09:04 PM
So is Ron on board with us now? Always liked that guy even though he is a Phil Jackson sucker...can't blame him for that even though Pop is the GOAT!
Bartleby
06-27-2025, 09:48 PM
It's hard to imagine he wouldn't be happy with his kid ending up with an organization like the Spurs and the chance to play with Wemby.
ace3g
06-28-2025, 12:06 AM
DLa92GNvgpp
cutewizard
06-28-2025, 02:21 AM
Here are some potential monikers for him.....
The Maestro, or
Seadancer, because he flows through traffic.., or
Edgewalker......
PhantomDashCam
06-28-2025, 03:43 AM
I’m partial to Frozone - due to his ability to ICE and SLICE his way through traffic (not to mention the follicle styling).
https://64.media.tumblr.com/2effc4bc73514239c39eb55af9d8d735/tumblr_inline_p2u1nlsLYl1qgqt01_250.gif
RC_Drunkford
06-28-2025, 04:05 AM
1938814291894833485
John B
06-28-2025, 06:56 AM
1938814291894833485
Was that Wesley and Keldon’s voices in the background? :lol:lol
scottspurs
06-28-2025, 08:35 AM
I like that his locker is next to Harrison Barnes. Massive maturity upgrade from having a locker next to Ace Bailey at Rutgers
ace3g
06-28-2025, 11:42 AM
DLct_rORQT3
cutewizard
06-28-2025, 12:20 PM
He's very happy
Good sign!
Guru of Nothing
06-30-2025, 11:36 AM
I think Ron Harper Sr. might be one of us. It would be awesome if he discovered this board.
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https://x.com/RealSpurnandez/status/1938806970225770618/photo/1
John B
06-30-2025, 11:43 AM
I think Ron Harper Sr. might be one of us. It would be awesome if he discovered this board.
1938806970225770618
https://x.com/RealSpurnandez/status/1938806970225770618/photo/1
I truly see him proud of his son. I could only gather that he’s not around them a lot growing up, for whatever reason, but Maria still allowed him to be there at Draft night, and Ron Sr seems grateful. He would not do anything to potentially manipulate his son in a bad way.
cutewizard
07-01-2025, 04:47 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pugt8uVWQoQ
cutewizard
07-01-2025, 04:54 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jvb8ufCQmG0
cutewizard
07-01-2025, 04:55 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHwlu1jq2Ig
ace3g
07-09-2025, 02:54 PM
https://x.com/MarcJSpears/status/1943021461876408383
ginobilized
07-09-2025, 03:09 PM
https://x.com/MarcJSpears/status/1943021461876408383
Great find!
Love knowing that Manu is already making strong connections with Harper. Those 6'6' lefty guards need to stick together. He seems like another perfect Spur.
https://x.com/MarcJSpears/status/1943021461876408383
"Spurs general manager Brian White" :lol
Leetonidas
07-09-2025, 03:16 PM
"Spurs general manager Brian White" :lol
Man, it wasn't just a typo either, he is referred to as Brian White multiple times throughout the article :lmao
ace3g
07-09-2025, 05:10 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1s76yar5Xk
TimmyBuckets
07-09-2025, 06:41 PM
Manu mentoring him is amazing, and he's spent everyday with him. This is perfect.
cutewizard
07-12-2025, 09:13 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJt2EUAIpQ8
cutewizard
07-12-2025, 09:15 PM
Just to compare with his Dad
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwAuHPE_jMU
OldMan88
07-13-2025, 12:19 AM
A couple of his defensive plays today looked like Manu plays… especially that block.
Raven
07-13-2025, 04:20 AM
guy is clearly an all star by the end of his rookie deal
Chomag
07-13-2025, 05:23 AM
I see what yall mean saying he looked allot like Manu out there. Very exciting to see.
LeBowen
07-13-2025, 05:24 AM
I see what yall mean saying he looked allot like Manu out there. Very exciting to see.
He also had Manu-like scary falls. :lol
mystargtr34
07-13-2025, 05:48 AM
That foul by the Mavs C on Harpers steal and transition dunk was dangerous and reckless. Legler played it off on commentary like it was a basketball play but players know not to wind up and swing through like that when the player is up at the rim and in a vulnerable position. That could have ended up a lot worse.
If that happens in the league guarantee you teammates are getting in the face of the Mavs guy.
Ice009
07-13-2025, 10:08 AM
That foul by the Mavs C on Harpers steal and transition dunk was dangerous and reckless. Legler played it off on commentary like it was a basketball play but players know not to wind up and swing through like that when the player is up at the rim and in a vulnerable position. That could have ended up a lot worse.
If that happens in the league guarantee you teammates are getting in the face of the Mavs guy.
I was thinking the same thing. I was thinking flagrant foul, but Legler really played it off like it was just a basketball play. It looked to me like he got his head and took him out of the air. It likely wasn't his intention, but I thought it looked dangerous when I saw it in real time.
OldMan88
07-13-2025, 11:07 AM
That foul by the Mavs C on Harpers steal and transition dunk was dangerous and reckless. Legler played it off on commentary like it was a basketball play but players know not to wind up and swing through like that when the player is up at the rim and in a vulnerable position. That could have ended up a lot worse.
If that happens in the league guarantee you teammates are getting in the face of the Mavs guy.
Agree it should have been ruled a flagrant foul as he almost took his head off trying to get to the ball.
cutewizard
07-15-2025, 02:13 AM
The real deal
He is fun to watch
couchman
07-16-2025, 02:43 PM
Now that he's shut down for the rest of Summer League, my thoughts on his two games:
The good:
The ability to handle the ball and get penetration into the paint is an elite skill that will translate.
His finishing at the rim is awesome.
He's a competitor. He wants to win and you can see that effort and intensity in how he plays.
He has the physical tools to be a good defender.
Areas for improvement:
He needs a lot of work on all of his shots outside of 10 ft.
There is no pullup game or floaters or anything like that right now to balance his driving ability.
The offense generally ran better without him on the floor. He had more turnovers than assist. This may be a tunnel vision issue he has to work on, or just lack of familiarity with teamates and the Spurs offense, or both.
He didn't seem to do a good job of moving off-ball. Carter Bryant was bad at this as well and I'm not worried about it, but if we want Harper to start next to Fox he has to figure out how to do this and hit spot up jumpers. I think he can but we didn't see it yet.
TheDoctor
07-16-2025, 02:57 PM
Now that he's shut down for the rest of Summer League, my thoughts on his two games:
The good:
The ability to handle the ball and get penetration into the paint is an elite skill that will translate.
His finishing at the rim is awesome.
He's a competitor. He wants to win and you can see that effort and intensity in how he plays.
He has the physical tools to be a good defender.
Areas for improvement:
He needs a lot of work on all of his shots outside of 10 ft.
There is no pullup game or floaters or anything like that right now to balance his driving ability.
The offense generally ran better without him on the floor. He had more turnovers than assist. This may be a tunnel vision issue he has to work on, or just lack of familiarity with teamates and the Spurs offense, or both.
He didn't seem to do a good job of moving off-ball. Carter Bryant was bad at this as well and I'm not worried about it, but if we want Harper to start next to Fox he has to figure out how to do this and hit spot up jumpers. I think he can but we didn't see it yet.
On his areas for improvement:
-I think he has a nice drive, contact, pull-up one hander.
-The offense did run better w/o him but I’d say it was lack of familiarity with both, teammates and system. Most of them look like headless chickens running around actually. Once Harper has multiple repetitions with the A Team he will look much better than SL.
ginobilized
07-16-2025, 03:07 PM
Dylan Harper, thank you for your service.
I don't see him as a starter at the beginning of the season. He will really have to show a LOT in training camp for that to happen. Probably a similar developmental arc to Castle last season.
From the start of last season to this season our SL has improved and now our bench is far better. Excited to see Harper lead the 2nd unit, at least for a while.
couchman
07-16-2025, 03:12 PM
One other thing is that his form on his jumper is a question mark for me.
The release is fairly low and the shot is somewhat flat.
He is a solid FT shooter that way but the further out you go the more that form will suffer.
I don't know if we let him keep doing that and just hope it gets to be a consistent weapon or if we try to rebuild it into a more traditional release.
My first inclination is to let him keep doing it and just see if he can get better at it.
dn0774
07-16-2025, 03:20 PM
With him shut down from SL perhaps he will jump in with the other guys who have been in Vegas doing runs/workouts.
TD 21
07-16-2025, 03:40 PM
Sure, there could be a game(s) here or there as availability dictates, but as a constant, I don't think we'll ever see a Fox-Harper starting back court.
As I've said since they lucked into Harper, my sense is if all goes according to plan with his development, we're looking at 2-3 seasons max before Fox is traded, with the Heat the probable favorites.
The only way Harper would be, is if it's for an MVP or All-NBA caliber player in their prime, who is a good theoretical fit.
For next season, unless Harper proves a credible enough spacer (doubtful obviously), I don't think we'll see as much of them paired together as most expect and want to see.
SpursFan86
07-16-2025, 04:03 PM
Sure, there could be a game(s) here or there as availability dictates, but as a constant, I don't think we'll ever see a Fox-Harper starting back court.
As I've said since they lucked into Harper, my sense is if all goes according to plan with his development, we're looking at 2-3 seasons max before Fox is traded, with the Heat the probable favorites.
The only way Harper would be, is if it's for an MVP or All-NBA caliber player in their prime, who is a good theoretical fit.
For next season, unless Harper proves a credible enough spacer (doubtful obviously), I don't think we'll see as much of them paired together as most expect and want to see.
I think it’s decently likely Harper as a rookie is a better floor-spacer and shooter than Castle. Why can Castle start at the 2 and not Harper?
I do think it makes more sense to have Harper play more of a 6th man type role where the offense runs through him when Fox is sitting, and if I had to bet I’d say Castle gets the start over him…but I guess I’m not understanding why you think Fox/Harper is untenable when the alternative is Fox/Castle.
TD 21
07-16-2025, 04:32 PM
I think it’s decently likely Harper as a rookie is a better floor-spacer and shooter than Castle. Why can Castle start at the 2 and not Harper?
I do think it makes more sense to have Harper play more of a 6th man type role where the offense runs through him when Fox is sitting, and if I had to bet I’d say Castle gets the start over him…but I guess I’m not understanding why you think Fox/Harper is untenable when the alternative is Fox/Castle.
Because Castle is more of a secondary creator anyway and theoretically a POA defender in a starting lineup otherwise bereft (since we're presuming Castle over Sochan in this scenario) of one.
Harper is more of a primary creator and the only way to get him reps in that role is to have him play it in non Fox minutes.
Not so much untenable to me as it is my projecting what I think the Spurs will do.
Ice009
07-16-2025, 04:48 PM
One other thing is that his form on his jumper is a question mark for me.
The release is fairly low and the shot is somewhat flat.
He is a solid FT shooter that way but the further out you go the more that form will suffer.
I don't know if we let him keep doing that and just hope it gets to be a consistent weapon or if we try to rebuild it into a more traditional release.
My first inclination is to let him keep doing it and just see if he can get better at it.
I wonder if his mom may have screwed his jumpshot by not letting him shoot one for quite a while after he started learning to play. It seems like he developed a flat shot. Flat shots aren't as easy to get in the rim as you won't get any kind bounces off the rim when shooting it flat. The accuracy has to be dead on for it to go in if it's flatter.
I think it’s decently likely Harper as a rookie is a better floor-spacer and shooter than Castle. Why can Castle start at the 2 and not Harper?
I do think it makes more sense to have Harper play more of a 6th man type role where the offense runs through him when Fox is sitting, and if I had to bet I’d say Castle gets the start over him…but I guess I’m not understanding why you think Fox/Harper is untenable when the alternative is Fox/Castle.
I think Castle's offense will be better this season with all the work he's putting in, but also, I think he starts because I think his defense will be better than Harper's (hopefully Harper does improve a lot of his, though, as that first game he looked good defensively, but not at all in the second game). Taking away Castle already playing a year for the Spurs, all things being equal, I pretty much think Castle gets the starting nod because of defense. I think we'll see him a lot more consistent on defense this season. Edit : TD21 pretty much said the same thing in the post above.
We also don't know how Harper's defense will be against NBA players yet as he hasn't played against any regular players to see how he goes on that end (I'm hoping he improves quickly as Mike Noyes seem to think he's a good defender already, or has defensive potential).
RC_Drunkford
07-16-2025, 04:58 PM
his jumpshot is clearly too flat. He needs to put more arch on his shot for it to fall consistently.
TheDoctor
07-16-2025, 05:12 PM
his jumpshot is clearly too flat. He needs to put more arch on his shot for it to fall consistently.
If only we were able to reach a contract agreement with the best shooting coach :bang
Ice009
07-16-2025, 05:14 PM
If only we were able to reach a contract agreement with the best shooting coach :bang
I remember someone saying or reading something about Pop didn't think shooting coaches are needed. Not sure if that was before Chip was signed, or sometime after, but if that is how he thought about it, he was wrong.
TheDoctor
07-16-2025, 05:16 PM
I remember someone saying or reading something about Pop didn't think shooting coaches are needed. Not sure if that was before Chip was signed, or sometime after, but if that is how he thought about it, he was wrong.
Well, the Alzheimer must have kicked in because who the fuck fixed nephew’s jump shoot?
exstatic
07-16-2025, 05:19 PM
Well, the Alzheimer must have kicked in because who the fuck fixed nephew’s jump shoot?
Or Tony’s. This sounds like utter bullshit to me.
ulosturedge
07-16-2025, 05:41 PM
To be fair we don't know how much run he had with the squad before playing those 2 Summer league games. Lack of chemistry and being rusty could have something to do with his performance. No need to make knee jerk assessments here. We are a long way from the next regular season.
spurraider21
07-16-2025, 08:31 PM
harper and castle had roughly the same FT% in college though harper got to the line more, so take FT signals for what they're worth. with that said harper also shot 6% better from 3 despite much higher volume while not being the beneficiary of a loaded UConn squad letting him be uber-selective with his looks. there are more signs pointing to optimism with harper than there were for castle a year ago this time. will come down to work ethic, which castle seems to have in droves. by all accounts harper is the same way
harper's shot looked pretty flat in summer league and he doesnt have a particularly high release generally, so there are things to work on. if he can just be a reasonable catch and shoot player, i think i could see him in the manu role where he runs point for the bench unit but is still able to play SG alongside Fox, being a secondary creator on that unit who can also let it rip if left wide open
SpursBills
07-16-2025, 08:42 PM
However good he might be eventually , there is a decent chance that Harper is ass his first 1-2 seasons. Not just neutral, but actually a bad player impact-wise.
The guy I hear him get comp'd to the most is Cade Cunningham. The guy I see the most in him is actually Fox. It's important to note that while both guys eventually became all-stars, both were terrible their first season (Fox epically bad) and Cade was pretty bad impact-wise up until this year. Harper's got a lot of the same strengths and weaknesses as Fox coming out - gets the the basket well, poor jumper, more combo guard than pure point. Harden came out of the gates a positive player but also finished his sophomore year before coming out.
All this to say, I hope that Harper roars out the gates and becomes a positive player right away. But in the more likely scenario that he sucks (ok counting stats, inefficient, lots of mistakes, bad impact) his first 1-2 seasons, hopefully we won't see a ton of cliff jumping. That doesn't come for me unless he continues to suck into season 3-4.
SpursFan86
07-16-2025, 09:14 PM
However good he might be eventually , there is a decent chance that Harper is ass his first 1-2 seasons. Not just neutral, but actually a bad player impact-wise.
The guy I hear him get comp'd to the most is Cade Cunningham. The guy I see the most in him is actually Fox. It's important to note that while both guys eventually became all-stars, both were terrible their first season (Fox epically bad) and Cade was pretty bad impact-wise up until this year. Harper's got a lot of the same strengths and weaknesses as Fox coming out - gets the the basket well, poor jumper, more combo guard than pure point. Harden came out of the gates a positive player but also finished his sophomore year before coming out.
All this to say, I hope that Harper roars out the gates and becomes a positive player right away. But in the more likely scenario that he sucks (ok counting stats, inefficient, lots of mistakes, bad impact) his first 1-2 seasons, hopefully we won't see a ton of cliff jumping. That doesn't come for me unless he continues to suck into season 3-4.
I agree with the sentiment, but there’s a big difference in the situations of those guys. Harper isn’t being asked to carry the team or be the #1 (or even #2) option, and defenses won’t be able to sell out to stop him. I think he’s set up for success much better than Fox or Cunningham were coming into their rookie seasons.
ambchang
07-16-2025, 10:07 PM
A lot of what Harper will likely struggle with will be decision making and adjusting to the spend and length of the nba. He’s still a teenager and will be playing against men who’s been pros for years. There are very few PGs who hit the floor running. Magic, Chris Paul, Jason Kidd, Oscar Robertson and Mighty Mouse, I don’t remember many who were great as rookie PG. the first four were often cited as natural PGs while stoudemire was a high usage low efficiency chucker on an expansion team. You can maybe put mark jackson in there or even iverson (score first though) but amazing rookie PGs are few and far between.
Players like Stockton, mark price, Kevin Johnson, Deron Williams, Isiah Thomas, Jerry west, Steve nash and our own Tony Parker all took their lumps as rookies or even the first few years of their careers. Hell, even castle, who won ROY last year, wasn’t all that good with impact stats.
RC_Drunkford
07-17-2025, 04:16 AM
I remember someone saying or reading something about Pop didn't think shooting coaches are needed. Not sure if that was before Chip was signed, or sometime after, but if that is how he thought about it, he was wrong.
Pop also thinks the 3-point shot is stupid. Thankfully he's not coaching this team anymore.
ace3g
07-17-2025, 10:32 PM
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spurs10
07-18-2025, 02:03 PM
Did the coaches have some shows or something to attend in Vegas? Benching Dylan made sure we had no chance in moving forward.
KDKSpurs24
07-18-2025, 02:58 PM
Did the coaches have some shows or something to attend in Vegas? Benching Dylan made sure we had no chance in moving forward.
The team literally has to play another game on Saturday. This was not about trying to lose on purpose or anything. Not sure why some people think that. They literally put Carter Bryant back in the game even when the team was down 30 and he got hurt. Dylan was always only going to play 2 games. Flagg only played 2 games. Plus Dylan is coming off a groin injury. Not smart to force him in meaningless games. Hardly anyone cares about a SL championship.
exstatic
07-18-2025, 06:26 PM
Did the coaches have some shows or something to attend in Vegas? Benching Dylan made sure we had no chance in moving forward.
Protecting the #2 overall pick wouldn’t be the decision of the SL coach. They put CB back in late in the 4th, and he turned an ankle. They’re lucky that was all it was. If they had played Harper in a nothing SL game and he got seriously injured, the same clowns complaining he didn’t play would be crucifying the FO for that.
spurs10
07-18-2025, 09:35 PM
The team literally has to play another game on Saturday. This was not about trying to lose on purpose or anything. Not sure why some people think that. They literally put Carter Bryant back in the game even when the team was down 30 and he got hurt. Dylan was always only going to play 2 games. Flagg only played 2 games. Plus Dylan is coming off a groin injury. Not smart to force him in meaningless games. Hardly anyone cares about a SL championship. Yeah "meaningless games" and Bryant's ankle was especially bizarre with them being down by 30.
Protecting the #2 overall pick wouldn’t be the decision of the SL coach. They put CB back in late in the 4th, and he turned an ankle. They’re lucky that was all it was. If they had played Harper in a nothing SL game and he got seriously injured, the same clowns complaining he didn’t play would be crucifying the FO for that. I was being facetious, as I told my wife the same during the game, but for that matter he could be injured any moment in SL. Wondering the point of the Pistons game, as well. Bryant will likely be working on that ankle and Dylan will be playing roulette.
exstatic
07-19-2025, 12:01 PM
Yeah "meaningless games" and Bryant's ankle was especially bizarre with them being down by 30.
I was being facetious, as I told my wife the same during the game, but for that matter he could be injured any moment in SL. Wondering the point of the Pistons game, as well. Bryant will likely be working on that ankle and Dylan will be playing roulette.
I think the plan was to play Dylan two games. He could be hurt, but you were on plan if that happens. The problem I have is people that want them to play him more, when he was clearly shut down intentionally. They got him a little taste of action,and saw what they needed to see.
cutewizard
07-29-2025, 07:42 PM
https://youtu.be/7RiGVgJOO6o?si=Br3yyPiiIyD8xlRT
TheDoctor
07-29-2025, 09:57 PM
https://youtu.be/7RiGVgJOO6o?si=Br3yyPiiIyD8xlRT
He's not going to be the next Larry Bird, but he's also not another Christian Laettner. The kid is going to be very good IMO.
exstatic
07-30-2025, 07:42 AM
Part 2 of that video
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tbdog
07-30-2025, 07:38 PM
He's not going to be the next Larry Bird, but he's also not another Christian Laettner. The kid is going to be very good IMO.
I don't see Cooper Flagg becoming a true Tier 1 superstar—the kind of player who single-handedly carries a team. But he might be an Andrei Kirilenko type with even greater longevity, and perhaps the best Robin since Pippen. I don't see Cooper Flagg becoming a true Tier 1 superstar—the kind of player who single-handedly carries a team. But he might be an Andrei Kirilenko type with even greater longevity, and perhaps the best Robin since Pippen.
SupremeGuy
07-31-2025, 11:10 PM
lol Cooper Flagg is a day one baller...
I think Dylan Harper is too.
John B
08-01-2025, 04:11 PM
Part 2 of that video
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Downhill Dill. I like it
ace3g
08-04-2025, 06:02 PM
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BatManu20
08-21-2025, 01:32 PM
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cutewizard
08-22-2025, 07:34 AM
Humble and ready to absorb the organizational culture
The Truth #6
08-22-2025, 08:33 AM
He could have referenced Manu instead of Harden if he wanted the perfect answer but still it's great to hear where his mind is at.
He could have referenced Manu instead of Harden if he wanted the perfect answer but still it's great to hear where his mind is at.
i though the same but then gave harper the benefit of the doubt by assuming perhaps dylan was just giving us a present day example.
He could have referenced Manu instead of Harden if he wanted the perfect answer but still it's great to hear where his mind is at.
i though the same but then gave harper the benefit of the doubt by assuming perhaps dylan was just giving us a present day example.
ismael-robert
08-23-2025, 12:38 AM
Well Harden did go on to be top banana for a team or 2 while manu had to be 6th man for rest of career
KDKSpurs24
08-23-2025, 01:45 AM
Well Harden did go on to be top banana for a team or 2 while manu had to be 6th man for rest of career
Exactly. Would have defeated the point he was trying to make. He definitely wants to eventually start and become a superstar. Harden's path is a better example for his goals. Those saying Manu aren’t even really thinking about it like that.
KDKSpurs24
08-23-2025, 01:47 AM
Well Harden did go on to be top banana for a team or 2 while manu had to be 6th man for rest of career
Exactly. Would have defeated the point he was trying to make. He definitely wants to eventually start and become a superstar. Harden's path is a better example for his goals. Those saying Manu aren’t even really thinking about it like that.
John B
08-24-2025, 09:34 AM
He could have referenced Manu instead of Harden if he wanted the perfect answer but still it's great to hear where his mind is at.
Maybe because Manu was 57th pick and was expected to come off the bench, while Harden was 3rd overall.
John B
08-24-2025, 09:34 AM
He could have referenced Manu instead of Harden if he wanted the perfect answer but still it's great to hear where his mind is at.
Maybe because Manu was 57th pick and was expected to come off the bench, while Harden was 3rd overall.
NASpurs
08-24-2025, 09:48 AM
We back?
dbestpro
09-21-2025, 02:22 PM
How long is he out before they put him on the floor? Is he gonna open in Austin to get his sea legs?
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