Are financial constraints impacting draft strategy?

[vy65]

Obviously financial considerations impact roster construction. But has Holt Jr + Dell + Sixth Street told BWrong to minimize draft moves to save money? Doubling up on selling SRP in consecutive drafts is something of an indicator. Did we hoard all those other SRP to sell them for cash? If so, that’s pretty fucking concerning considering this is likely going to be an expensive roster in a couple of years. Not being willing to pay the tax/potentially be an apron team is really going to constrain things.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

If they don’t like anyone enough in the second round to offer a roster spot and a contract then it’s smart to kick it down the line, as opposed to drafting someone for the sake of it like they did with Cissoko and especially with Nunez, who is never going to play in the NBA unless scientists create a time machine and take us all back to the 90s.

These seconds in the future will become very useful exactly when the roster becomes expensive and they need to clear a roster spot and some salary.

[Mr. Body]

Roster slots seem to be the concern.

[poopbox]

Every since the little holts have taken over we have been selling picks for cash and haven't paid any sizeable contracts. Fox contract is the only big time money we will have on our books since who...Lamarcus and Demar?

[Mr. Body]

Every since the little holts have taken over we have been selling picks for cash and haven't paid any sizeable contracts. Fox contract is the only big time money we will have on our books since who...Lamarcus and Demar?

Who did you want to give huge contracts to

[exstatic]

Roster slots seem to be the concern.

Another terrible take. We have 10 guys under contract, plus two FRPs. That leaves 3 open spots.

[BackHome]

Heck even Oklahoma used their second round pick and they just won the damn title.

[Mr. Body]

Another terrible take. We have 10 guys under contract, plus two FRPs. That leaves 3 open spots.

Yeah, they're looking for veterans, not some wild swing at a SRP.

Or else you think they accidentally didn't draft a second rounder and are, like, "Oops! exstatic had it right and we were going to use that roster spot on a third rookie! We need to call him and apologize!"

[spurraider21]

stockpiling and deferring SRPs is fine. getting 2 for 1 is fine, if you dont feel there is somebody roster worthy

trading a good SRP (#38) for only a single future SRP and cash just feels bad. any deal where the real compensation is "cash" has to feel bad for fans.

maybe they'll surprise me this offseason, but if you are going to continue to stockpile SRPs and then punt them, i at least want to see them being used aggressively for trades, the way Phoenix just did. and not just trading one to get rid of Devonte Graham's small guarantee. im talking packaging a few to good a reasonable player who may not be worth a first.

or using them as ammo to move up in the draft and grab a target

[scott]

stockpiling and deferring SRPs is fine. getting 2 for 1 is fine, if you dont feel there is somebody roster worthy

trading a good SRP (#38) for only a single future SRP and cash just feels bad. any deal where the real compensation is "cash" has to feel bad for fans.

maybe they'll surprise me this offseason, but if you are going to continue to stockpile SRPs and then punt them, i at least want to see them being used aggressively for trades, the way Phoenix just did. and not just trading one to get rid of Devonte Graham's small guarantee. im talking packaging a few to good a reasonable player who may not be worth a first.

or using them as ammo to move up in the draft and grab a target

I agree for the most part but I wanted to add that maybe this could be the fan perspective on the selling picks for cash (which we are making quite the habit of - I believe this is the 4th year in a row. Chandler, Miller, Furphy, #38)…

While cash considerations feel empty for us fans, if it’s what the Spurs need in order to continue to invest into the team and the fan experience, then by all means… continue to do it. While that cash doesn’t do anything for the cap, maybe it’s a factor in whether or not the team hits its profitability and cash flow goals. As a small market team, that might be the case. We’ve also eaten some dead money in the last few years (ironically in exchange for more SRPs in some cases), so selling the SRPs may be what allows us to do that.

This could be one of those behind the scenes business-of-basketball things that seem empty to fans, but is actually pretty important to keeping the team viable and delivering a good overall fan experience. I make jokes, but I don’t think Holt Jr. does this to buy hookers and blow. I think it’s just one of many lines on the team’s statement of cash flows, which they have to carefully manage as a small market team.

[ChumpDumper]

I see it as making hay (excess profits) while the sun is shining (rookie contracts). They'll probably flirt with the tax threshold in the future as they have in the past.

[exstatic]

Yeah, they're looking for veterans, not some wild swing at a SRP.

Or else you think they accidentally didn't draft a second rounder and are, like, "Oops! exstatic had it right and we were going to use that roster spot on a third rookie! We need to call him and apologize!"

Any trades will have players going out,too, maybe multiple to one. We’re not in a roster crunch, and that’s still a bad take.

[spurraider21]

I agree for the most part but I wanted to add that maybe this could be the fan perspective on the selling picks for cash (which we are making quite the habit of - I believe this is the 4th year in a row. Chandler, Miller, Furphy, #38)…

While cash considerations feel empty for us fans, if it’s what the Spurs need in order to continue to invest into the team and the fan experience, then by all means… continue to do it. While that cash doesn’t do anything for the cap, maybe it’s a factor in whether or not the team hits its profitability and cash flow goals. As a small market team, that might be the case. We’ve also eaten some dead money in the last few years (ironically in exchange for more SRPs in some cases), so selling the SRPs may be what allows us to do that.

This could be one of those behind the scenes business-of-basketball things that seem empty to fans, but is actually pretty important to keeping the team viable and delivering a good overall fan experience. I make jokes, but I don’t think Holt Jr. does this to buy hookers and blow. I think it’s just one of many lines on the team’s statement of cash flows, which they have to carefully manage as a small market team.
yeah i mean we've eaten dead moeny in recent years when we were scraping by to hit the salary floor :lol

[Roscoe P. Coltrane]

2nd round picks are garbage so it don't really matter what they do with them.

[Sugus]

I agree for the most part but I wanted to add that maybe this could be the fan perspective on the selling picks for cash (which we are making quite the habit of - I believe this is the 4th year in a row. Chandler, Miller, Furphy, #38)…

While cash considerations feel empty for us fans, if it’s what the Spurs need in order to continue to invest into the team and the fan experience, then by all means… continue to do it. While that cash doesn’t do anything for the cap, maybe it’s a factor in whether or not the team hits its profitability and cash flow goals. As a small market team, that might be the case. We’ve also eaten some dead money in the last few years (ironically in exchange for more SRPs in some cases), so selling the SRPs may be what allows us to do that.

This could be one of those behind the scenes business-of-basketball things that seem empty to fans, but is actually pretty important to keeping the team viable and delivering a good overall fan experience. I make jokes, but I don’t think Holt Jr. does this to buy hookers and blow. I think it’s just one of many lines on the team’s statement of cash flows, which they have to carefully manage as a small market team.

Spot on. It's so fucking tiresome for people to act like if they can't think of a "valid" explanation, then it's "obviously a mindless/stupid move".

@OP, this thread is a nonsensical premise: Harper alone will easily earn more money during his rookie contract alone than the 4 SRP that the Spurs "won't use" would ever earn.

IF there were financial constraints hindering draft moves -- trading down from the #2 pick would be the first and foremost move to be made in this regard, as it will have by far the biggest economic impact on the team's finances (nevermind the much higher probability that he becomes a star or semi-star player, earning him significantly more money that the team allegedly doesn't have or doesn't want to spend).

Some Google-Fu gave me concrete numbers; an estimated (approx) salary for the 4 SRPs combined would be about $28 million (about $7 million each on average). While Harper's rookie contract as a #2 pick will total $56 million, literally double the amount.

We can conclude that there's no tangible evidence of financial constraints being the Spurs' operating principle regarding the draft. Occam's Razor then tells us that the most likely answer is that they simply weren't interested in any of the available second-rounders for this draft, and traded out of it.

[exstatic]

Spot on. It's so fucking tiresome for people to act like if they can't think of a "valid" explanation, then it's "obviously a mindless/stupid move".

@OP, this thread is a nonsensical premise: Harper alone will easily earn more money during his rookie contract alone than the 4 SRP that the Spurs "won't use" would ever earn.

IF there were financial constraints hindering draft moves -- trading down from the #2 pick would be the first and foremost move to be made in this regard, as it will have by far the biggest economic impact on the team's finances (nevermind the much higher probability that he becomes a star or semi-star player, earning him significantly more money that the team allegedly doesn't have or doesn't want to spend).

Some Google-Fu gave me concrete numbers; an estimated (approx) salary for the 4 SRPs combined would be about $28 million (about $7 million each on average). While Harper's rookie contract as a #2 pick will total $56 million, literally double the amount.

We can conclude that there's no tangible evidence of financial constraints being the Spurs' operating principle regarding the draft. Occam's Razor then tells us that the most likely answer is that they simply weren't interested in any of the available second-rounders for this draft, and traded out of it.

It would be the most cost effective and also the least likely. If there were financial constraints, they certainly would have dumped #14.

[poopbox]

Who did you want to give huge contracts to

Good nba players that we never make any serious attempts to sign

[jesterbobman]

Sold a second, hired Sean Sweeney. There's going to be more concern for $ in San Antonio than the Clippers have, but I think the logical conclusion is that they need more experience at 4/5 backups, and didn't have a plan to keep someone, and thought the roster wouldn't have space.

[rascal]

They need cash to shoot those tshirts into the stands on home games.